gtfo-spoiler-chat

[hexed vapor]

It was bad when people had to start on R5.

Now, it's a very nice progression from R1-R5.

[half hornet]

...and then R6 hits

Big thonk

[hallow lark]

Once R6 hits…. It’s gunna be a massive (how much can I do this time compared to my first experience with said rundown)

[real moss]

you'll do fine on R5

[half hornet]

I was hoping to finish a side project before R5 hits me, but unfortunately didn't go the chance...

I could try delaying this thing until I move to win10, but by then no one will be playing.

[real moss]

Same. It actually is kind of a shame it's out now. next week would have been perfect. Will see how far I get this weekend

at least the 3 A's this evening. can't wait to redo A2

[half hornet]

I'd wait for a patch, I think

[real moss]

for the cosmetics? that has been fixed already

[half hornet]

I heard some doors get softlocked in early levels

[scenic flume]

What are the new cosmetic items besides the completion mask

[real moss]

Guess I'm listing key's

[half hornet]

Calle said theres a total of 13 new cosmetics

1 of them is rundown completion helmet

[real moss]

basically E1 reward

[half hornet]

That leaves a potential of up to 3 new sets

(head, torso, pants, backpack)

Someone posted a new skull-looking mask

Or it's 2 sets and some pallets

[real moss]

we'll find out soon enuff

[half hornet]

Still waiting for a very good blue pallete

[narrow gulch]

so did sawed off get buffed but not to 30 lol

[winter wharf]

30.4 damage per shot

3.8 damage per pellet

[narrow gulch]

oooo

time to not use it

[winter wharf]

allegedly, I'm not testing that shit or looking for it

[narrow gulch]

lmfao

[winter wharf]

I trust the people who said it though

[narrow gulch]

until they nerf hel revo, that shits sitting in the corner collecting dust

like 90% of mains

[livid heath]

Thank you 10C

[half hornet]

What am I looking at...

Also: sus hammer

[livid heath]

yeah

welp

thats one hour wasted then

@broken scarab GREAT

[half hornet]

Is that the objective item?

[livid heath]

Bulkhead key

[narrow gulch]

IT IS?

[livid heath]

yes

[narrow gulch]

oh my god thats awesome

im so sorry but

thats really funny

[livid heath]

could had been a minus 40mins run

[half hornet]

Lmao, I can't even recognise it from this distance l

[livid heath]

but nevermind

[narrow gulch]

rip

[livid heath]

Rest in piss

welp

[half hornet]

Noclip could be really useful at that moment

[livid heath]

another reason to quit GTFO for a while (bug fixed, lfg banned off)

Add it to the resume

[half hornet]

This is why I wait for day 1 patches

[fallow wasp]

So am I tweakin or is R5A1 a different layout?

[half hornet]

It easily could be

[hexed vapor]

OMG WOW NO WAY\

[fallow wasp]

Okay listen I've seen a lot of people saying that shit barely changes in the alt rundowns

[hexed vapor]

It is basically the same

[fallow wasp]

because there's definitely a different layout to the rooms connecting before the first bioscan

[hexed vapor]

Maybe I'm biased because of how I think about tiling...

But having a handful of different rooms ain't significant in my mind

[fallow wasp]

Used to be a long hallway and the scan room was to the right, now you have to make a left turn into a different room

yeah, it's only A1

[deft kiln]

wait @hexed vapor do we have t odo reset request again

LOLo

[hexed vapor]

Anyone that beat A-tier on launch, lmao

[half hornet]

Calle said they implemented a back end fix that returned rewards post factum, but not super clear

[hearty bridge]

alt R5B4 - large biomass detected 3 franks or 3 hybrids 🤡 GTFO state in 2023 is kinda funny

[half hornet]

In fact some guy just got apparel unlocks for free

[livid heath]

Le funni

[mossy yoke]

The backend fix would likely have just been to allow the system to grant the new vanity items as rewards, not to restore anything. But I can't speak for 100% certain as I'm on vacation and not sure what was talked about (but this is most likely it, as I don't want misinformation spread)

[boreal tendon]

so RESET REQUEST vol 2 incomming?

[mossy yoke]

That was a result of them being rewarded two of the new vanity items that were supposed to release with ALT 5 but their ID's mistakenly got added to the pool for a very short period. So now that their client knows about those new items, they are seeing them pop up. But it's not any free reward.

[broken scarab]

No, it fixed any new clears. Clears during that 2 hour period is not rewarded

[half hornet]

Right, so potential reset 2.0 might still be in the menu.

Watch out people, don't clear any PEs

[broken scarab]

It was just a 2 hour window for this issue, so we haven't decided yet

[deft kiln]

@hexed vapor LOL

[half hornet]

Does that mean those drops are lost forever or...

[broken scarab]

Don't have a definitive answer to that yet

[half hornet]

Will you, like, make a "we're sorry" event with a free apparel or two...

[broken scarab]

That could be an option instead of manually clearing progression for people.

But, as said, no decisions yet

[half hornet]

#game-announcements will await the decision patiently

[livid heath]

Lol

F in the chat

That minus 45min run

[livid heath]

Solo bolo?

[half hornet]

Proper squad.

[livid heath]

Oh

Fun fact

I got banned from lfg in the same level youve done

[half hornet]

Gamer rage moment or...

That's an ancient screenshot btw.

That's like 2 weeks into R2. God I hated that level, as you can see.

The clear literally was a single guy making a last stand in extraction point and extracting us at literally 1% HP with no ammo.

Literally couldn't cut it any closer than that.

[livid heath]

Yea

The most dangerous part is after plugging both the cells and moving through the alarm door

Because they spawn right in front

[twin dirge]

when R6

[livid heath]

Never

[hexed vapor]

Small tile change to R5C1 is nice.

Less cramped, you don't have to clear the big zones.

[deft kiln]

how you like a2 secondary change

[hexed vapor]

Meme tier.

[deft kiln]

i thought it was gonna be a r7d1 moment

[reef talon]

there is a new reskin of r1 completion mask...

[deft kiln]

i wanted it so bad

[hexed vapor]

@deft kiln Thoughts on R5 so far, tho?

[deft kiln]

with sleeper destiny fix. the rooms are pretty empty

[nocturne flax]

Meme its having rayalot 2 rooms away and having the entire b4 wave spawn on top of you

[deft kiln]

LOL

[deft kiln]

the tiles are mostly the same you can really seem floodways issues in a1 tho

[hexed vapor]

It's just the baseline lower enemy count.

R5A1 also had an insane first zone population due to an issue.

[fallow wasp]

left to go piss while doing R5A2 sec and came back to a bunch of tentacles in my face

[half hornet]

Noice

[coarse berry]

Wait does that mean

Snatchy?

[fallow wasp]

possibly

[deft kiln]

@hexed vapor

[half hornet]

Why are you all so confused by that terminal

[reef talon]

the goofy ass placement

[half hornet]

What, kovac couldn't put one in the middle of the room?

It's very convinient and looks cool

[reef talon]

it just looks wrong from the back

[half hornet]

Lowpoly?

[coarse berry]

perfectly normal terminal placement

[hexed vapor]

R5C2 Overload is probably nerfed.

1 less tank

Feels easy, but it's hard to say if that's just that OG wasn't that hard or if it just spawns less.

[nocturne flax]

Pre fix or bust

6 tanks

[hexed vapor]

OG wasn't that hard tbf

but nerfing it at all is dumb.

Seemingly no penalty waves

[tough atlas]

Did they fix the drops?

[nocturne flax]

Prefix was fun tho

waves were bigger

[half hornet]

They fixed the new drops, but still no decision on those few that got lost in first 2 hours of release (first A clears, basically)

Going through the whole reset grind for 2-3 drops per unfortunates doesn't seem to be worth the effort, so they might settle for a different solution

But so far no conclusive decision either way, reset is still on table as a nuke option.

[pulsar zodiac]

got 2 reskin of the same helmet back to back
yes they fixed it

[livid heath]

We know

[wide lion]

lfp e1

[deft kiln]

B1 doesnt run that well tbh

@hexed vapor did you guys have issues

[wide lion]

it`s on all

[wide lion]

fix one, get two problem 😄

[stone forge]

Is there a cosmetic for beating r5?

[kind swan]

yes

[half hornet]

Uh, I think so. Has to be.

Check the rewards tab.

[kind swan]

It's the Ghost stare mask essentially

[deft kiln]

who thought r5b1 overload was a good idea

r1c1 is the worst level

like why are we just doing it again

LIKE

[half hornet]

Me, sitting on my happy 10 clears:

Also it's now a level within a level

Big brain

[hexed vapor]

We had a bit of frame loss

Just a bit.

[deft kiln]

WE ARE HAVIG A LOt

[pulsar zodiac]

I love D1 snatcher kidnapping one of us while running to extraction

[hexed vapor]

Waiting on that Flow render fix.

[deft kiln]

time is remaking it as fast a possible so we can use a lame version

LOL

[broken scarab]

Yes

[reef talon]

second new palette btw

also, seems like most cosmetics from this are recolours of the rundown specific masks

there is red r2 mask, green r7 mask, yellow r1 mask i have seen so far

[half hornet]

Really? Lame.

But I'll take it.

I'd there a recolour of the scorpion?

[reef talon]

not seen

dak also found another r1 remake that matches palette

so two different r1 copycat ones

[daring pilot]

👍

[reef talon]

the one i have is santonian galea mark I

[coarse berry]

pain.

[hexed vapor]

RESIST

Only real GTFO fans can use the z376 terminal.

[deft kiln]

Lol

[deft kiln]

I had to go to work at the end of r5b1 so I didn’t get my completion

😭 have to redo borning reactor

[reef talon]

That one was worse PE than b2

But still not particularly overwhelming, just the enemy flood in wave 4 of reactor

[deft kiln]

It is just a 7 code reactor where nothing happens

We had to burst sentries so redoing it with snipers is gonna make it less noteworthy

[reef talon]

The tedious part comes after reactor in secondary

But also not particularly hard

[pliant bear]

What do you think about new(or not so) guns in R5?

[fresh bronze]

Damn it actually dropped

[hexed vapor]

They're mostly fun.

[tough atlas]

Did the DTR sight got changed or I misremember?

[hexed vapor]

Nothing too meta shaking, but sawed-off and DTR are two of the most unique weapons in the game.

Main weapons*

[pliant pasture]

#GameSuggestions
Giant Spitter, every time it triggers, it shoots max infect and starts an error alarm (that can stack)

[hexed vapor]

LFG hardstuck B-tier rn?

[kind swan]

[coarse berry]

they put snatchers in r5

damn well that kinda ruins their introduction in 7

but also, more snatchers

[fallow wasp]

Exciting rundown

First one I ever played and now I can actually beat r5c2pe

[hexed vapor]

P sure DTR damage is stealth-nerfed, btw.

Which makes sense, because its ammo pool is ridiculous for its old damage.

[coarse berry]

doesn't one-burst anymore?

[hexed vapor]

It does.

Just does less damage, at least I'm mostly sure.

May try to dig up old stats.

W8, I'm just wrong.

Did it really always have such low dmg?

Like, I know it was garbage, but wtf.

[coarse berry]

think so

just barely able to 1-burst with 1head/1body, or 2head to spitty boys

not gonna lie the heavy SMG feels like garbage too

[hexed vapor]

HSMG kinda doodoo, yeah.

Current DTR is pretty alright, though.

No burst cancel is a blow and all, but the ammo buffs are massive for its efficacy.

Its body eco isn't even horrible, its main weakness is mag size.

[distant chasm]

Has the HSMG Recoil animation been fixed?

[nocturne flax]

No

Hsmg still ass

[distant chasm]

correction reload animation
(11:43pm brain moment)

[kind swan]

Yall really using DTR and HSMG over THE SAWED OFF???

Smfh

[distant chasm]

Fun Sawed off fact:
the shotgun shells don't disappear they just go back into the gun after a few seconds

[nocturne flax]

Damn they butchered r5c2 @hexed vapor

[kind swan]

Did BlackDragon get his Drip?

[nocturne flax]

Overload

[kind swan]

[hexed vapor]

You in it rn?

[nocturne flax]

Yep

They reduce the enemies by a lot

[kind swan]

[nocturne flax]

Snatcher was fun but damn

[hexed vapor]

It did feel pretty underwhelming.

Especially when OG was already not a crazy trio.

[winter wharf]

og as in pre patch, or post patch

[nocturne flax]

Post patch

[winter wharf]

I should play the pre patch version some time, have some fun

[nocturne flax]

Somehow more bland

Probably one of the best sequences in the game

[kind swan]

but did dragon get his drip

[nocturne flax]

Yes

[kind swan]

Was it worth?

[distant chasm]

bruh hsmg reload animation is still broken

[nocturne flax]

Dont know

Till im finish

[kind swan]

Not sawed off so idc

[coarse berry]

sawed off chads stay winning

[nocturne flax]

Saw off its hawt

[coarse berry]

can it onehit chargers

did they make it the anti-charger primary

[nocturne flax]

Yes

[coarse berry]

very good

[nocturne flax]

Ignore me harrasing calle for 1 year and half

For thst 30 damage

[coarse berry]

definitely gonna be bullpup's time to shine next patch

inhales copium

[nocturne flax]

Nah that hsmg needs to go on special

Urgrntly

[subtle oriole]

🫢

[winter wharf]

I don't know what fucking level you're playing but it sure as fuck isn't r4e1

I can't remember any levels with e_455

because I am silly

[half hornet]

you people really remember the zone numbers?

[winter wharf]

I love r4e1

[half hornet]

it took me 5 years to memorise my own phone

[winter wharf]

oh I remember a lot of numbers

do you want my debit card numbers off the top of my head? the random numbers on my keys? etc etc

[half hornet]

i genuinely don't even remember the last 4

[winter wharf]

this man has never wait no im not giving you the last numbers of my card

my number stays winning

[plush basin]

I only remember E1 has zone 456 cos its so nice to type when I'm looking for resources 😊

[high vortex]

What if they add shadow version too 😮

[subtle oriole]

I haven't got to r4e1 yet

[subtle vault]

How many new cosmetic are there?

[reef talon]

An amount. Likely more than you can actually receive even if you have been getting them since they were introduced as early as possible.

Lots of rundown mask variants with pallet swap this time.

[hexed elm]

I must say, The new snatcher into in r5 a2 is quite nice

[half hornet]

Calle directly said there's 13 new cosmetics.

[mortal portal]

I like that now something interesting happens after putting in the command compared to the OG where nothing happens

[hexed elm]

damn thats a pretty low bar to clear then, and it was only one enemy that they added

[wanton horizon]

Anyone got that website/youtube channel/whatever that has the guy tracking all the differences between the og and alt rundowns?

[wary olive]

mr blackdragon?

[subtle oriole]

Why is the ||R7C1 and R3C1 bosses|| in ||R5A2 / || LMAO

[tepid compass]

for the funnies

[kind swan]

ALTs

Alt rundowns are technically a seperate timeline because lore is different here and there. in which I don't quite know the specific differences. lore channel can help you there if interested

but eh

[exotic thistle]

does R4C2 have overload?

[wanton horizon]

Yes

[exotic thistle]

thank you

[livid heath]

i love new audio logs

are they new (because to me from dauda running away into dauda meeting the others)

[kind swan]

[livid heath]

what

i have a solid point right>

right...?

[coarse berry]

inb4 they release alt r6 and confirm it's just all a retcon

[livid heath]

new video when GRONGUS MOGUS

You sussy baka

[coarse berry]

when i get off my ass and make it

[livid heath]

aight

play when?

[coarse berry]

when I get off my ass

[livid heath]

impossible task

but i can wait an eternity

[livid heath]

that one lonely floodligt

[hybrid walrus]

R5B1 Prisoner Effeciency is something else...

[wide lion]

lfg r5e1)

[wide lion]

it`s mobility light

[narrow gulch]

Just you wait till later

[subtle oriole]

Just failed it myself for the seoncd time..

I think the only way to beat it is to open bulkhead, but not enter until ||the mother screams||, and then basically just Call of Duty zombies style train the room as they come through the bulkhead door

Once the ||room + initial mother scream|| is cleared, go in and do what you can

[errant vigil]

What

[subtle oriole]

(This is solo /w bots)

[errant vigil]

There’s no mother in R5B1

[subtle oriole]

oop

I missread it as R5A2

My brain likes to trick me like that

[wide lion]

so long time to wait

-_-

33.33

[livid heath]

But its lonely

[subtle oriole]

Double sawed off gameplay 😳😳

[solemn wigeon]

Least infected b4 player

[wary olive]

what's sawed off damage now?

[livid heath]

30.8

[wary olive]

ty

[honest lotus]

cant remember do you do overload or secondary first for R5b1?

nvrmind just checked

forgot to check the terminal XD

[coarse berry]

Made that mistake on a3

We walk into secondary and I just go "oops."

[honest lotus]

XD

[wide lion]

best weapon

[wide lion]

and 3 shots

[wary olive]

ty

[hollow knot]

Is the sawed off actually good now?

Damn

It used to be basically a nerf gun with infinite ammo

I'll test it out when i get on

Also the heavy smg sounds so damn good

[hollow knot]

He is batman

[honest lotus]

lesson learnt dont perma foam R5B1 reactor

basically the waves stack

[wide lion]

)

[honest lotus]

so once they all blew up it was just a perma surge with bbc chargers giants strikers etc

[obtuse surge]

are the cosmetic drops fixed now

[eternal dragon]

yea

[half hornet]

You will earn new ones, but if you completed one of As in first 2 hours of update... They still haven't decided what to do.
They don't want to go through reset grind again, so either they'll settle for "we're sorry" apparel rewards or just let it be.

But reset option is still in the table too, so. They'll comeback to us later.

[obtuse surge]

should deff do something cuz those ppl are the ones that chose to play anyway cuz they trusted in 10c

[eternal dragon]

dont worry

they are all recolors 🙂

except for the E1 mask

[obtuse surge]

yeh...

[eternal dragon]

gonna check out E1 for the first time now

i am so excited

[west crow]

Have fun fireblade 😀

[late bloom]

AltR5E1 speedrun when ?

[wide lion]

go

[tough atlas]

Got new palette: Desertum

It looks really nice

[wide lion]

±

crimson top

[eternal dragon]

when r8 comes out

[wide lion]

2033

[main comet]

Let's keep the images gtfo related and safe for work please, thanks

[wide lion]

,

?

you not like Tarantino?

[wary olive]

Wait the cosmetics are bugged again in the same way they were for r4 alt release?

[winter wharf]

They were bugged but it got fixed

Different manifestation of the same effect

[wary olive]

LOL

[winter wharf]

Rip to the sods who cleared levels within 2 hours of launch

[wide lion]

sawed in close kill giant from 3 shot

[prisma zodiac]

ah yes
close giant 3 shot from in sawed kill

[plush basin]

sawed 3 shot kill giant from in close

[atomic escarp]

so there are snatchers in r5?

[plush basin]

Yes

[atomic escarp]

just saw the trailer and wanted to make sure

[tough atlas]

where?

[plush basin]

I've only seen one, A2 extreme

[daring pilot]

First one is in A2

Ik there’s more in ||D1||

[tough atlas]

I joined an A2 in progress and didnt see any (was after they finished Secondary)

is it only one?

[daring pilot]

Yeah it’s one

Good jumpscare

[tough atlas]

👍

[daring pilot]

Fucking R5A2 gets all the spicy shit

[daring pilot]

It also uses a charger wave noise

[real moss]

It already was hands down the best A level ever

[daring pilot]

Best non-tutorial A level, yeah

Also probably best period

[real moss]

was about to say

[daring pilot]

I just tend to put A1’s outside of the other A levels

[reef talon]

It is a very good level

[daring pilot]

Which is like 4 other A levels now that I think about it lol

[plush basin]

Its definitely good, R4A2PE is up there too

[daring pilot]

No, 4 total

XD

R5A2 is like harder than some R6 C tier

[real moss]

Good one as well

[reef talon]

now if only some people weren't having the bug where only one bulkhead key is generating

so they can't complete

[real moss]

pushing it a bit. but close

[real moss]

Leave him be, he is still searching

[tough atlas]

true

Even if I've got to say I like R3A3

Considering it doesn't have sectors

[daring pilot]

It’s definitely harder than C1

[real moss]

Ok now you are pushing it

[daring pilot]

R3A3 is fun

[reef talon]

It's a good introduction reactor

better than R1C1

[real moss]

Oh absolutely but R6 1 levels were all one tier above their diff

[reef talon]

the stakes are too low there

[real moss]

R6C1 should have been a B

R6D1 a C

etc etc

[daring pilot]

God I hope that changes with ALT

[reef talon]

really? I remember so many newbies struggling with R6C1

[real moss]

I hope as well

[reef talon]

and the pit and moving scan

[daring pilot]

I want R6 to be a hellhole

[tough atlas]

R6D1 should have been trown in the bin imho

5 checkpoints

[real moss]

Newbies struggle on R1A1

[daring pilot]

Nah, D1 is a great level IMO

[reef talon]

D1 is fine

[daring pilot]

Love it, it’s just not hard

[reef talon]

maybe too many check points

[daring pilot]

This

[real moss]

4 sentries, ez gg never see an enemy

[reef talon]

but it's there for people who suck at respawn rooms

[daring pilot]

Absolute way too many checkpoints

[daring pilot]

Then they need to learn to get better

[tough atlas]

I believe it tried to be too many things: approachable for newbie, a reactor level, a level with a tank, a level with an "hard" scan in the fog and a level with a bossfight

[plush basin]

I think R6C1 like R1C1 is the first time players had to shoot a lot

[real moss]

Oh how much you've grown 😏

[reef talon]

yeah, by a D1 you really shouldn't be getting more than 2 checkpoints maybe

[daring pilot]

The tank was good, it taught tumors for the kraken fight

[reef talon]

one after reactor

[plush basin]

unless they brought the sentry loadout

[reef talon]

one before boss

[tough atlas]

Most people that struggled with R6C1 either REALLY sucked at shooting or brought the wrong loadout

[daring pilot]

I think it honestly needs 2 checkpoints max, but I’d rather have 1

[reef talon]

if 1 then just after reactor

[daring pilot]

5 was so overkill

[tough atlas]

I feel like they could have cutted all checkpoints but the one before the big bad calamaro coi peperoni and 100% deleted everything regarding the reactor

[daring pilot]

Lol yeah, I learned a lot from modded and ALTs

[daring pilot]

The reactor was super fun, I feel like it didn’t need as much leading to it

[hexed vapor]

Newer players are bad though, especially in R6, and the game somewhat encourages them to get in over their heads by advertizing A1->B1->C1->D1 to be the intended initial progression.

C1 and D1 also have confused identities. They are simultaneously trying to be proper C and D-tiers while also trying to be introductory-friendly, which leads to them being both fairly underwhelming and overly oppressive at different parts of those levels.

[daring pilot]

That’s my favorite reactor in GTFO hands dowm

[reef talon]

that progression is pretty forgiving though

[plush basin]

R6D1??

[daring pilot]

Yup, and since they don’t need to be introductory anymore they can be tiered up to where they should’ve been

[daring pilot]

Yes

[plush basin]

thats a pretty hot take

[tough atlas]

I agree with Ray, with the only addendum that I don't blame people for going a1-b1-c1 since only other level is B2 and it was a snorefest until the end

[daring pilot]

I hope they add harder enemies to it/make it a bit rougher in alt

[daring pilot]

Yes it is

[real moss]

Nah. R2D2, R6D3 are more fun

R5B1 ovl

[plush basin]

R2D2 is defo my fave

[reef talon]

you all just love r2d2 for the star wars joke

[daring pilot]

I find it hard to like R6D3 because of how long you have to wait, and the others just suffer from enemy variety

[real moss]

You just have a droid kink

[reef talon]

admit it you sick freaks

[tough atlas]

Out of all the ones DNA's mentioned I probably like R2D2 the most

[plush basin]

Heh, you got me 🙌

[real moss]

R4D1 is pretty good as well actually now that I think about it

[daring pilot]

I tried R5B1 yesterday and it’s a pretty hot contender, I think if they add some more varied enemies to the D1 reactor in alt it’ll come back to my favorite

[real moss]

And R7E1. the reactor itself is solid

[plush basin]

R4D1 now I've figured out how to not get the run on waves I really like

[daring pilot]

It’s just the same problem as R6D3, you got to go through a shit ton of stuff to get to it

[reef talon]

you honestly have to go through very little

the stealth part is just SLOW

if you're being sensible

[real moss]

That's why I say the reactor part itself

the rest is snooze

[daring pilot]

Yeah

Why I prefer R6D1 reactor

It’s right there

[hexed vapor]

R6D3 is more fun to play, imo, but I think R2D2 has the strongest design of any reactor.

[real moss]

I found R6D1 reactor kinda snooze tbh.

[hexed vapor]

Also, the preamble is one of the best parts of R6D3.

[daring pilot]

Yeah R2D2 probably has strongest reactor design, I’ll agree to that

Just so little enemy variation

[real moss]

the tank at the end was a nice touch but like ... meh

[daring pilot]

I think tanks at ends of reactor waves are a good way to force a code to be un-missable

[prisma zodiac]

R2D2 lacks enemy variation and imo a short reactor wave spam (like r6d3 and r4e1 and r5d2)

[daring pilot]

Again, here’s to R6D1 reactor (and the level overall) getting a buff in ALT

It’s got potential to be a super fun reactor

[wide lion]

ez map

[real moss]

yeah but that does not apply to R6D1 cause you put last code in BEFORE he spawns

[daring pilot]

Shockers, BBC’s, lots of other enemies that could be thrown in now

[daring pilot]

Yeah I made that point badly, meant to say it’s good on fetch reactors but kinda meh on this one

[real moss]

R4E1 is only fun for the code fetchers imo

[daring pilot]

bruh that gave me a terrible idea for a reactor

[hexed vapor]

Eh, the defense is neat.

[wide lion]

I WANT HEAL WHEN MY INFECTION 100%+ :d

😄

[hexed vapor]

It's not much better or worse than any other reactor hold.

[wide lion]

140%* 🙂

[daring pilot]

Hold on i gotta cook this one

[hexed vapor]

This makes me realize that comparing reactors can be a bit weird, though.

There's genuinely a lot of ways to implement reactors, including distinct styles that you can mix and match...

[wary olive]

Why no one talking about r5c2 reactor 😦

[daring pilot]

stinky

i actually know nothing ab R5C2 reactor lol

[wide lion]

fp r5e1 😄

[prisma zodiac]

its why i want a reactor that does both

[half hornet]

Double reactor 👀

[reef talon]

Triple reactor mission

Each one causes some negative effect on the rest of the level.

Coming to you in the fabled R11

Or

You do two reactors at once, each reactor provides a code input for the other reactor.

[hexed vapor]

I actually wonder if other objectives lack malleability.

Like, people make fun of Legacy for spamming reactors...

But, like, reactors are themselves such great level templates.

[reef talon]

It makes sense

I do think the double reactor would be interesting though, obviously more complex than that

Two people at each reactor

They have to dive into rooms between waves to get codes for the other reactor

Would need a lot of tweaking on enemy spawns at each

And the timing would have to always line up

[plush basin]

I think the current UI would struggle a bit too

[reef talon]

So problematic to work around

Yeah

It would emphasize teamwork a lot though, well, in my grossly humble opinion.

[plush basin]

I'm just trying to think what gameplay you could get from that which you couldn't with a normal reactor

[reef talon]

Fair point

[plush basin]

I'm not saying there is none, but its not obvious

[reef talon]

I just saw it as making you genuinely rely on your team composition and two different pairs

[obtuse surge]

you guys are all reactorpilled

reactors fucking blow

[reef talon]

We have all taken the reactor pill

[obtuse surge]

if you like R4E1 codes

just solo the game?

lol

[plush basin]

How does that follow?

[obtuse surge]

theres nothing exciting in there

the only exciting part is that you're not with the whole team like usual

[reef talon]

Ray is definitely right that reactor is very malleable though

Not many mission types are so adaptable for variation in this game

[plush basin]

tbh I do like it when I get to piss off from the team and do something on my own

But I think its neat how there is a push and pull between the speed/safety you get the codes at and the stress piling up on your team defending the waves

[reef talon]

While I would love a "defend the structure" mission

It wouldn't work in this game

Reactor is next best thing

[pulsar zodiac]

why R5D2 cell zone is gone

[subtle vault]

Are all the new cosmetics new helmet re skins + a new pallet?

[reef talon]

Most of them

2 new pallets

[half hornet]

Don't know, but shame if they are

Heavy armor please, come on

[reef talon]

Desertum and Santonian pallet

[daring pilot]

I got a backpack reskin

It’s the one from the event with all the packages on it but with some camo

[half hornet]

Hm, I kinda like that one... Let's see.

Probably alternative variants for commando set

Which is like my most used apparel

[daring pilot]

oh nice

[reef talon]

There is another backpack on wiki too

[daring pilot]

Yeah iirc there was camo pants version of the kneepads

[reef talon]

As well as a new top and pants set

[daring pilot]

The MDR Cargo got a camo reskin

[reef talon]

And a third pallette

I haven't got

[daring pilot]

Ooh copium backpack reskin

[half hornet]

Cargo got reskin 👀

[reef talon]

Viride Silva pallete

[half hornet]

Best pants

[reef talon]

Three new palettes

[daring pilot]

Oooh and a dragonscale reskin

[half hornet]

Nooooice

[reef talon]

With matching pant ye

[daring pilot]

Won’t use it bc rubber but nice

[half hornet]

What is even matching pants for dragons ale

[daring pilot]

No idea

[half hornet]

Dragonscale is on its own

[daring pilot]

Whatever u want probably

Actually wait there was, 1 sec

[reef talon]

Normal dragonscale on it's own

[daring pilot]

What was the pants awarded for R7 completions before alt rundowns?

[reef talon]

Reskin Kovac Fortis

There wasn't any

[daring pilot]

Because dragonscale came with the KDS Proto Cage and Storax Kimble

There should’ve been

[reef talon]

Was mask, backpack, dragonscale

[daring pilot]

Oh damn

:(

[reef talon]

Mask for all main

Backpack all extreme?

[daring pilot]

Yeah nvm I remember now

Backpack was ovl

[reef talon]

And dragonscale over

Ah ok

[daring pilot]

I think

[reef talon]

Other way around

[daring pilot]

Yeah bc I remember being pissed I had to do R7C3 ovl for that pack

[reef talon]

And now we have the timed drop version of it

And now all that is in random pool anyway

[daring pilot]

yeah

[reef talon]

Rip twin barrel

Someone posted a twin barrel reskin

Btw

Has mark I and II now

[daring pilot]

ooF

Wait ayo

First Mk2?

[reef talon]

First was II ye

[half hornet]

Scorpion?

[reef talon]

Nope

I saw amogus helm reskin on wiki tho

[half hornet]

Sigh

[reef talon]

HF arbustum mk I

[daring pilot]

amogus helm?

[reef talon]

Instead of HF Decon First Response

This one has gold/yellow highlights

[daring pilot]

ohhh ok i just call that Sabre’s mask

Lmao

[reef talon]

Oh wait, twin barrel mark I is original

Correction

So mk II is new

Can see reskin in #gtfo-media

It looks worse

Maybe with new pallet...

[daring pilot]

honestly I’m fine with reskins if they look good, I just wish the original ones had a toggle to use the pallete or not so that we could have more original cosmetics

[reef talon]

That's 6 helm reskins

2 bags

3 pallette

1 top

1 pants

[daring pilot]

note: two of the bags are reskins

Wait they’re all reskins

[atomic escarp]

he doesn't know

[daring pilot]

Except pallette obviously

[reef talon]

Pants are new at least

[daring pilot]

No?

[reef talon]

Since dragon didn't have a match

[daring pilot]

Which pants?

[reef talon]

Look r5 cosmetic wiki

I guess they added more than 13 cosmetics to pool then

[daring pilot]

I hate to break it to you

But that’s a reskin

[reef talon]

Whut

Rip

[daring pilot]

Yeah

MDR Cargo

[reef talon]

Right I just noticed

[daring pilot]

👍

[reef talon]

I have MDR, idk how I didn't notice that

[daring pilot]

F

[reef talon]

I guess MDR is intended to be the match with dragonscale then

The original one

[daring pilot]

Maybe, no idea tho

[reef talon]

Won't people who joined after the additional cosmetic rewards in R6 and R7 got removed be behind every other player permanently on cosmetics now?

Because now that's more bloat to random reward pool with less rolls to unlock everything.

Whereas you originally got the random roll plus the specific piece for all secondary / overload

[daring pilot]

Yes

They will be behind

[reef talon]

That seems like...an oversight.

[atomic escarp]

"r7 got removed"

lol

[daring pilot]

And also just never have the cosmetics

[daring pilot]

It did

The cosmetic reqards

Got changed when Alt R1 dropped

[reef talon]

Glad I did both R6 and R7 ones then before they got axed.

[daring pilot]

I did most of both, to the point where I’m probably not missing any rewards anymore

[half hornet]

I failed R6D4

Was like 75% through the level and had to go to work

[daring pilot]

You didn’t have to do R6D4

[half hornet]

R7 dropped 30 minutes after

[real moss]

got it a couple of times

[reef talon]

For pallete

All overloads completed

[daring pilot]

Hello

[reef talon]

Oh wait, D4 was main

[daring pilot]

D4 was main only

[reef talon]

I forgot

[prisma zodiac]

[reef talon]

Me me d

[daring pilot]

And for all main you could just do an X mission

All good

[reef talon]

Interesting

I did all before x and got lugubrious

Didn't know x worked

[plush basin]

Have they said what they will do for cosmetics when R6 is re-released?

Because some people will have earned them when R6 was here last time, but some not

[reef talon]

It will probably just be new ones

I don't think they care about everyone having access to everything.

Otherwise limited drops wouldn't be utilised for activity.

Basically, tough shit if you missed out

[half hornet]

FOMO this FOMO that, how about you FOMO some ~

[daring pilot]

@reef talon looks like there is one new torso

[reef talon]

Other than the dragon reskin?

Wouldn't that make 14 new cosmetics then

Not 13

[daring pilot]

Yeah, 1 for all main and 13 for levels

[half hornet]

Either they released one by accident or Calle didn't count the rundown reward

[reef talon]

Besides completion mask

So 15 sorry

[daring pilot]

Oh wait LOL

yeah ur right there is 1 extra

[half hornet]

LMAO

@broken scarab TLDR: You said there were 13 cosmetics, but 2 fine gentlemen above just counted 15.
Which one doesn't belong?

[daring pilot]

Yeah Auri posted all 15 in scaler’s server

[reef talon]

I was about to list them out but I am missing names for some anyway

[daring pilot]

Not really a problem tbh

[reef talon]

But if there is another shirt...yeah 15

[daring pilot]

One extra for when R6 drops

[half hornet]

Inb4 some of them having broken scripts again

[reef talon]

I wonder if your reskin r1 helm

Omneco repairo

Or whatever

[daring pilot]

Yeah?

[reef talon]

Was the outlier

[daring pilot]

What’dya mean

[reef talon]

Since none of the other ones palette swap

[daring pilot]

It doesn’t swap

I was wrong

[reef talon]

Huh

[daring pilot]

I was just confused bc of the other one u posted

[reef talon]

Did you drug me when I witnessed that then

Oh

You posted the normal r1 one?

[daring pilot]

No?

There are 2 R1 reskins in R5

[reef talon]

Yes

That's what I mean

[daring pilot]

I posted my R1 reskin hat

It goes with Blush Safeguard from R4

[reef talon]

Oh

I see

It wasn't palette compatible

[daring pilot]

Yeah, it’s just matching with blush

[reef talon]

Just coincidence on both our colour schemes in each post

Lmao

[daring pilot]

Yeah lol

[reef talon]

That is so dumb

[daring pilot]

That’s why I was confused

It’s bc when you get a drop, it doesn’t show color

So I assumed it had just taken the pallete color

[reef talon]

Weird they gave R1 two reskins

But no R3 reskin

[daring pilot]

That might come with R6

Hoping for new funky R6 apparel tho

[reef talon]

Probably

I would prefer new models over reskins

Always love more palette though

[daring pilot]

I want like dimension themed apparel

[reef talon]

Give me a shiny palette named paragon

Or some shit

[half hornet]

I want a police like one, dark blue / black with blue & red highlights

[reef talon]

Overdrive is sort of like that but not quite

[half hornet]

Yeah, blue too soft and too much red

[daring pilot]

Yeah Overdrive and Overload Six are amazing apparel

It’s a shame they aren’t available anymore

[reef talon]

Overload six is great

Not another good dark blue

[half hornet]

Too toxic imho

Blue is disgustingly saturated

Looks unnatural

[reef talon]

Where is my flamingo pink

Absolutely no masks will look good with it but think of the memes

[half hornet]

this as a pallete

[daring pilot]

Pink palette man

[half hornet]

wtf is this

[reef talon]

Pure white, none of this beige desertum bs or eightball

[half hornet]

I've never seen that in game I think

[reef talon]

And pink

[daring pilot]

Marker

[reef talon]

It's marker yeah

[half hornet]

Where can you see it

It looks like something from borderlands

[reef talon]

Just middle mouse ping I am pretty sure

[half hornet]

Never seen that l

It's just character coloured dots

[reef talon]

Hmmm

Maybe I am high

I recognise the symbol from somewhere?

[half hornet]

It's literally borderlands objective icon, only blue instead of green

[reef talon]

Maybe this is a mass delusion and you are the only one outside the simulation.

[half hornet]

[daring pilot]

Oh is it an objective icon?

Idk could be high

[reef talon]

That would make sense

It is way too blue tho

It might be an old replaced icon from ea

[half hornet]

That's probably it, since I'm sure I would remember seeing this in game

[deft kiln]

It is the ping marker

It is called :point

[half hornet]

Literally never seen it

The ping I just an orange dot, is it not?

[deft kiln]

It is from the older build if you use the ping anything mode that restores functionality it uses the same asset

Why do my strikers be looking like this again

[half hornet]

What? Thats their normal range.

[nocturne flax]

ALT R5 6/10

[half hornet]

Whats a 10

[nocturne flax]

r3

[half hornet]

Really? Fascinating.

[deft kiln]

Was alt r4 better or worse

[nocturne flax]

R4 ALT definetly better than ALT R5

[deft kiln]

I think r5 b tiers are some of the worst in the game

Like r4 b3 it is bad

But MY GOD

[nocturne flax]

b3 they just fucked up the scan on extreme

[deft kiln]

b3 b4 b1 zzzzzzz

We had a player fall alseep on their key board in c2

[nocturne flax]

yeah they butchered R5C2

literally one of their best levels

[deft kiln]

I haven’t done d1 yet

That’s the next one

[nocturne flax]

D1 its pretty good still

nerf but still the sameish

[deft kiln]

That is good

[deft kiln]

The lighting is really starting to get on my nerves

[nocturne flax]

yeaaahh

[deft kiln]

In the entire game

[nocturne flax]

extreme on D1 still tanks fps

suprisingly this r5 runs pretty good on some areas

[broken scarab]

Didn’t count the Rundown reward 😉

[nocturne flax]

due to how they render rooms and stuff

[deft kiln]

I have gotten some insane frame rate tanks

[tough atlas]

R5B4's first zone tanked my fps to 40ish

[astral ferry]

i only get frame dips when the snatcher events happen

[half hornet]

Oof, that's a chonker

[deft kiln]

I got spitter bug on b4

a3 ZzzZZZZ

[tough atlas]

Only other map that did that is R7D1, not counting R6DX since my PC was super-old back then

But R7D1 lasts nearly the whole map

[deft kiln]

Respawn rooms will do it to yeah

[tough atlas]

R5B4 started going back to 60ish after I got through the first sec door

[deft kiln]

The internal timers are kinda insane

Feel like they might have a timer for each sleeper and not just the room as a whole

[nocturne flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/793966577477222460/1119309541671174144/tenor.gif

[narrow gulch]

R5 b tier is really boring yeag

Tho b1 and 2 tank it on their own

[errant vigil]

I'd say b3 when you have to wait another 200 seconds on secondary

[narrow gulch]

True

[verbal ether]

b1 main and ovl aren't bad imo, secondary is a real snoozefest tho

[tough atlas]

Secondary would be better if the zones with the generators were smaller, really

Does R5B2 still has the weird reality bending glitch where secondary, sometimes, has an extra zone?

[nocturne flax]

Secondary would be great if it actually did what it says on the mission objective

like i plug the cell on the generator, fix the damn filtration

[deft kiln]

7 code tractor where nothing happens

Zzzzz

[half hornet]

Tractor?... We're farmers now?

[verbal ether]

It certainly isn't the most interesting reactor, but I feel like some mindless shooting is fine from time to time.

[deft kiln]

i agree BUT the level is an hour long

[verbal ether]

And i feel the PE would just be too long if you had to search for codes

[deft kiln]

na it just shouldnt be 7 codes

like 4 with the last 4 waves

less ammo

or it just shouldnt be a pe

lame as fuck intro for chager scouts

[verbal ether]

Yeah there's way too much ammo

[subtle oriole]

I failed that on first try lmao

Too much ammo not enough health

[fallow wasp]

Too many hybrids

Hate them hybrids

[subtle oriole]

Yeah I can't stand them

Idk how to deal with them without bringing sniper

[verbal ether]

Just bring 3 sniper sentries

[subtle oriole]

They'd run out of ammo so quick

I suppose there's a lot of tool refill

You'd probably need to avoid using them for the first few rounds

[half hornet]

Shadows worst stealth, hybrids worst combat

[deft kiln]

hybrids rock

but i am a sniper player

[half hornet]

Give me a level that has nothing but sleeping hybrids and alarm are exclusively shadows and I'll probably be okay with it.

Just don't add fog, for the love of all that is holy

[pulsar zodiac]

Overload scan is pretty good although only 1 tank
but reactor wave is noticeably much easier

[errant vigil]

Pretty sure most of the waves were reduced

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[errant vigil]

was there even a small wave

Overload

[pulsar zodiac]

and less hybrid overall

[errant vigil]

I'm talking about Overload enemies

Their waves sizes are way down

[pulsar zodiac]

I feel like the normal giant only appear like 1 or 2 time
charger wave spawn less frequent

also why most R5 cocoon zone now respawn scout as well

[errant vigil]

Which levels

[deft kiln]

a3

[pulsar zodiac]

and D2

[errant vigil]

Damn two levels I haven't play yet

Sound like fine changes tho

[pulsar zodiac]

where's my R5C2 cocoon revert

[tough atlas]

Speaking of cocoons, wasn't R5B3's room with blood doors a cocoon room in OG?

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[atomic escarp]

are you supposed to do optionals under error in r5b1?

[tough atlas]

No?

You do hsu scan

error turns off

[atomic escarp]

oh so reverse gotcha

[coarse berry]

wait that's a thing? is that exclusive to that level?

[atomic escarp]

is the error also exclusively giant chargers?

[tough atlas]

You do HSU scan error turns off in R5B1

[tough atlas]

yep

[atomic escarp]

man what a time to be alive

[tough atlas]

Before they nerfed it, on og release the rooms of those zones were full of shit

B1 Main was HORRIBLE for newbies

[atomic escarp]

i dont understand why they nerf rundowns

[tough atlas]

they nerfed that on OG like a couple of days after

[atomic escarp]

wouldnt it be better for the player base so they are busy lil bit more?

[tough atlas]

was too much for a B1 Main

We get the nerfed version so it ain't anything new

[coarse berry]

becuase also now we have things like stamina and no quiet-bhopping

[atomic escarp]

thats not enough of a reason to nerf

[kind swan]

GameDevHard
MustVacay

[winter wharf]

it's not like bhops instantly made it inherently easier or less risky to clear rooms

like yeah if you're great at the game there's tech you can use to quickly clear, but that's skill expression

[tough atlas]

I dont really mind that they got rid of bhop

[half hornet]

Bhop is cringe in every game that its in

[tough atlas]

I mind that now I've got PULSE, especially since some maps were enormous and not built for it

All the back and forth in R5A3 is an example imho

[fresh bronze]

Hybrids are cringe to stealth alone melee i swear they are either the easiest stealth or the hardest

[coarse berry]

That map took FOREVER

[atomic escarp]

mean big chargers

[kind swan]

Casual. 6ft tall black male

[atomic escarp]

[winter wharf]

keep baiting melees and whack them to the back of the head

[hexed vapor]

Imagine maintaining every design decision in the original R5D1...

and then removing an entire alarm + zone from R5D2.

[wide lion]

\

[subtle vault]

fear

[atomic escarp]

how significant is this change to difficulty

[hexed vapor]

Nothing crazy I guess, but a lot less happens for sure.

[daring pilot]

The class 9 is still there right?

[hexed vapor]

It was a slightly hectic alarm too, chargers + odd tiling.

Class IX, I think X now, still there, yeah.

[atomic escarp]

what the

[daring pilot]

Ok phew

[winter wharf]

is it still diminished?

or just a regular alarm

wait they made it chargers, that feels like a lazy change

[hexed vapor]

Diminished.

No, they didn't

The cluster that got removed had chargers.

[winter wharf]

ah gotcha

[daring pilot]

So no large changes in any levels, nothing like what happened in R3D1?

[winter wharf]

I was going to say, making alarms charger only and removing fog repellers seems to be cropping up often enough

[atomic escarp]

what change they made there

[daring pilot]

The charger/giant striker zone with 2 scouts became charger/giant charger/cscout zone

[winter wharf]

swapped out a zone of regular enemies for charger variants

or well, I can't remember what all the enemies used to be but

[daring pilot]

Honestly the chunkiest change on any alt I’ve remembered

Other than R5A3 floating key

Praise the holy key

[daring pilot]

Huh ok, well that’s a little disappointing

Hope the snatchers pull some more weight when they appear more

R5A2 was a neat surprise

[kind swan]

was it really?

[daring pilot]

Yeah, except that it made a damn charger noise

[winter wharf]

yeah it is disappointing when you see removed fog repellers from r2e1/r4e1, and then alarms made to be charger only in r4c3/d2

[daring pilot]

I thought it was a cool touch, but i hope levels make cooler use of them

[winter wharf]

like yeah they're changes but they feel kinda boring + hel weapons vs chargers

[daring pilot]

Also I’m pretty sure there’s no pablo on D2 bc I haven’t heard anything about him yet

[winter wharf]

I don't think there would be an immortal in that mission

not much point, and I didn't hear anyone bring it up

[daring pilot]

I mean it spawns 3 tanks to chase you to extract