gtfo-spoiler-chat

[half hornet]

Yes. Lots of them.

[kind swan]

There are no problems/bugs

Those are "Features"

[boreal flame]

i have yet to have a single PE run that doesnt break near extraction

i think it might be something with shadow spawn cap, might be overflowing the memory and breaking other stuff

[winter wharf]

I don't think I've encountered any problems/breakages, what the hell have you been experiencing

[prisma zodiac]

the only thing i know off is cfoam going through doors. And that happened once in a 3 hour session

[daring pilot]

This sounds like spitter bug…

[boreal flame]

I had that happen constantly through out R4, seems to happen when the host has low fps

[boreal flame]

the entire game starts breaking, sound cuts off (not scout related), game lags a lot and if you open the map the entire game freezes

we only had that happen when we started cfoaming enemies behind while bringing overload to extraction

and since we had a bot with biotracker on our latest run I could see way more than the suppossed shadow cap, I think it might be what is causing the memory overflow

[fresh bronze]

My favorite bug is throwing cfoam nade and watching it go straight through an enemy just to hit the wall behind it.

Or in one weird case just exploding in the air

[half hornet]

No, never experienced that.
Level being bullshit? Yeah.
Foam going through doors? Yeah.
No problems with Overload so far.

[fresh bronze]

Foam going through doors and enemies is desync correct

I dont think ive ever seen it happen to host

[prisma zodiac]

That sounds like spitter bug

Never heard of that happening on r4d2 but theres always a first i guess

[prisma zodiac]

for foam grenade it also doesnt immediatly hit smth if you throw it too close iirc

[fresh bronze]

Idk i just know foam nades give me more problems than any other item in the game

[boreal flame]

nah doesnt seem to be the spitters, though there are spitters on overload

[olive shoal]

Spitters usually cause that kinda bug

[boreal flame]

yeah but correlation doesnt imply causation

[prisma zodiac]

we know that the exact same bug happens/ed in levels like r2d1 due to spitters

or r2b4

[boreal flame]

only starts to happen when we reach the zone with the class 6 alarm, which is why i believe it has something to do with shadows going above their normal spawn cap since I did notice a abnormal amount of shadows, which might be leading to memory overflowing to other regions since the game cant keep track of every enemy on the same region of memory

[prisma zodiac]

idk how the shadows would break the spawn cap

[boreal flame]

it could be something on our end since noone else seems to have noticed anything wrong

[prisma zodiac]

But yea

• Sounds cutting off
• game lagging
• hard freeze when opening maps

are all spitter memory leak bugs

[boreal flame]

but i dont remember any other map which i could test the shadow spawn cap, maybe r1d1?

[prisma zodiac]

r7d1 is by far the fastest

[kind swan]

You could technically. But yea

R7D1 would be faster

[boreal flame]

I dont remember any alarm with shadows on R7D1

[kind swan]

First class X

[prisma zodiac]

first class X

[boreal flame]

what do you mean, class X spawns chargers

[kind swan]

You can do the door before the chargers

That one is also a class X but with Shadows

You don't have to go into the error door

[boreal flame]

damn, i guess you really do learn something every day

i was damn sure that door was on lockdown till you did the charger alarm

[prisma zodiac]

you dont even need to finish the charger alarm

it just wants you to start it

this is used in the speed strat (by shutting down both the charger class X and charger S scan spawns at the same time)

its just weird

[boreal flame]

that is cool

i didnt know you could do that on r7d1

i remember something like that on r6d3

[prisma zodiac]

it was most insane in r6d2

could shut off 4 alarms at the same time with it

well, 3 realistically but still

[boreal flame]

d2 is one of my favorite maps so far, i really hope 10cc doesnt change it too much on alt r6

secondary has to be prenerf

[boreal flame]

do you have a video about it on your channel?

[prisma zodiac]

give us mix of pre and post buff

pre nerf flyer alarm, post buff uplink

sadly no

in a 4 man youd basically do the error part fully, send 1 guy in secondary to start uplink and 1 guy to start charger zone class 3

Deactivate alarms

and boom all are free

[boreal flame]

charger class 3 is the zone on the right? if i am remembering it correctly

[prisma zodiac]

i wouldve used it in the duo 100% speed, but we didnt run it before r7 dropped

i miss r6d3, such a fun level imo

[boreal flame]

i hated secondary on r6d3

[deft kiln]

The hardest cheese

[prisma zodiac]

i still dread the memory of us wiping on that like 10 times in a row when training for the story%

[prisma zodiac]

run n gun it with a 2 way split, makes it bearable

[deft kiln]

Secondary is pretty cool it was tense for my cleats

But I didn’t do it 100 times

[tough atlas]

Everytime I've had that glitch was on a map with spitters and it worked exactly like what you described

With the little caveat being that I could go on for a long time if I didnt press TAB

eventually, game crashed anyway (but for that I've a sample size of one)

As a small note, getting close to the generator cluster of R2D1 did NOT fix any of that

sound was still fucked up etc

[boreal flame]

@prisma zodiac alright i am on r7d1, so i just need to go to zone 199 and do the first terminal command?

[boreal flame]

which door is it?

its not the one with the error alarm right?

[prisma zodiac]

its the terminal command in the big zone

[boreal flame]

the same zone with the charger alarm? past the error alarm?

[tough atlas]

dude it's the very first zone after the main bulkhead

the big one

you can either go the error door route

[boreal flame]

how the fuck did i not knwo there was a terminal with a command there

[tough atlas]

or use the terminal to start a class X which IIRC spawns only shadows

[boreal flame]

the main door tells you to go to zone 199

[tough badger]

I appreciate that they fixed the r6d2/d3 cheese (or said they did anyway) then gave us the r7d1 one anyway

[astral ferry]

did they fix it?

[prisma zodiac]

when did they say that?

wha

[tough atlas]

r6d2 cheese? I remember you could do some fuckery for r6d3 to stop all alarms with one of the terminals for either main or overload

[prisma zodiac]

northern door, theres a terminal on the right. Use its specific command. Boom

[prisma zodiac]

. @tough atlas

[boreal flame]

the wiki says the spawn cap is 25 enemies, if shadows are worth 0.75 am i right to asume there can only be a max of 32 shadows?

[tough badger]

They said that the command to turn off alarms to only work on alarms tied to that specific terminal (which is reflected in the current command description)

[prisma zodiac]

dunno if wiki is 100% correct on that one

[tough badger]

But r7d1 has the thunderdome tied to the same terminal so it works on that lmao

[prisma zodiac]

The r7d1 works on all alarms in the level

[tough badger]

Does it really? Damn they lied

[prisma zodiac]

ye. I posted it above, its used in the speedrun

[tough badger]

Or I'm remembering patch notes wrong

Ahh I thought you were talking about r6d2

Since that's also charger alarms

mb

[boreal flame]

holy hell yeah there is a alarm x here

[tough badger]

HELL YEAH BROTHER

r7d1 is a pretty solid level when it works properly

[boreal flame]

yeah game is def slowing down

i think i might have to verify integrity of my game's files

but no major bug so far

[tough atlas]

worth noting that r7d1 is fps hell

I also get massive shit performance in that level

[tough badger]

Not as fps hell as r6d4 tho

Or dx

[tough atlas]

"big level with lots going on" joke here

[prisma zodiac]

also, spawn capped enemies (or above)do always slow the game down

[boreal flame]

idk, never had problems with performance on r6

[tough badger]

Surge alarm moment

[prisma zodiac]

its fun when you run through 2 zones and have 50+ enemies on you

spawn cap be a meme at that point

[tough badger]

r5c2ov

[astral ferry]

I'm hoping people actually try to shoot it instead of kiting giants for 5 minutes 😔

[tough badger]

I'm always going to do it legit at least once

It's too much fun not to

Ironically a good fix might be to make the giant zones you'd normally pull easier

I guess you'd just pull blood door zone too then

They really can't make it completely uncheeseable

[boreal flame]

alright yeah things looking pretty normal so far

shadow cap seems fine

[daring pilot]

Makes sense for R4D2 to have spitter bug tbh

It’s got the gen cluster, the spitters

[boreal flame]

yeah its def the spitter bug

[daring pilot]

That bug is pretty common on R2D1, never heard of it on this level but first time for everything ig

[boreal flame]

but could it in theory impact the spawn cap?

[daring pilot]

nope

[boreal flame]

because there were way less enemies

now

[daring pilot]

Probably just a bunch of slow shadows tbh

They very slow

And can make it feel like there are less if they’re catching up

[boreal flame]

nah i used the zone 199 cheese to make them all follow me

and stayed up there for a while

[daring pilot]

mmm

Idk then

Gtfo funni

[boreal flame]

working as intended

[tough badger]

gtfo/unity both funni

[tough atlas]

AFAIK spawn cap doesn't work as in "24/25 enemies--->spawn 1 more!" but it works in queue and batches

Take it with a grain of salt since I'm not too versed on the topic

[daring pilot]

ohhhh right i’m thinking surges and diminished

[prisma zodiac]

theres also the thing that the shadow alarm will not fully spawn the spawn cap

while an error like on r4d2 overload will (just takes a bit)

[prisma zodiac]

so yea this

[boreal flame]

good point

so there is no way to test it till we get a shadow surge alarm

anyway its pretty safe to assume there is nothing wrong with the spawn cap anyway

but I know for a fact there were more than normal amounts of enemies on my last r4d2 run( which we died at 97% scan, funny gtfo moment )

[prisma zodiac]

judging spawn cap is smth people arent used to rly

you rarely see it

[boreal flame]

yeah, but a guy on our team was frozen, which in turn made him invincible for some reason

and we had a bot with biotracker

there were way more than 32 enemies on him

and since we also had a couple of chargers there werent that many slots for shadows

[prisma zodiac]

how did you count 32 enemies

[daring pilot]

With a knife

[boreal flame]

with math

what do you want me to tell you

[prisma zodiac]

did you stop playing and count them through?

cuz thats what i meant with, „people cant judge spawncap well“

[boreal flame]

yeah i get it

but no i didnt stop to actually count each of them

but i have a lot of experience, I have fought spawn cap alone multiple times, there is no way there were only 25 enemies there or 32 if we ignore the 5 or 6 chargers i was dealing with when my game wasnt frozen

but anyway who gives a shit

we arent even sure if the spawn cap is actually 32

it could be more

but how do i prevent the spitter bug from happening again? because i played the map 6 times so far and had that bug 50% of the runs

[daring pilot]

You don’t

😔

you just hope it doesn’t happen

Every countermeasure I’ve been told works? It doesn’t

[deft kiln]

just be better

[boreal flame]

so it isnt 100% guaranteed?

[daring pilot]

nope

[tough atlas]

of course not

[daring pilot]

Not even close

It’s very rare

[prisma zodiac]

the thing is, have you? You rarely see spawn cap in this game. Like rly you rarely see it even when you have 2k hours

[daring pilot]

Yeah it’s rare unless you’re trying for it

[prisma zodiac]

uhh, you dont rly. Only thing i heard helps is closing doors

[boreal flame]

i mean i get it, i am not as popular as you, but i did play r2e1 solo

[prisma zodiac]

im in no way popular

[boreal flame]

sorry english isnt my first language

i chose the wrong words lol

i meant noone on this server knows me

[daring pilot]

Yeah shut doors between u and spitters

[tough atlas]

I think DARKEVA was trying to say that it's hard to gauge for anyone, not that it's only you

[boreal flame]

yeah i know, i didnt want to come off as hostile

[prisma zodiac]

ah. The A

[boreal flame]

so its safe to assume i play casually

i never had spitter bug happen before, lucky me i guess

[prisma zodiac]

i can just go off what i saw before. For example when we did sped r3c1 trials and i thought „damn thats 30+ enemies at least“. When i rewatched and counted it was 20-25 or so (dont remember exactly)

hard to judge in the heat of the moment, even with red pingy triangles

[boreal flame]

yeah that is a good point

[tough atlas]

I guess someone could doorglitch next to an alarm?

[prisma zodiac]

only had it happen three times i think? At least 5 times where it actually had huge impact. But 4 of those came from hundreds of runs on r2d1 and r2b4

[prisma zodiac]

alarms have the spawn wave issue

[tough atlas]

Then wait like 5mins, finish alarm and count?

[prisma zodiac]

could do it on a diminished

[tough atlas]

true

[prisma zodiac]

wait a min. Kill 1 off until new guys spawn

that should then be spawn cap

[tough atlas]

sure if you're door glitching it's possible

[boreal flame]

or a god at long kitting, which i am not even close to hahahaha

there is no way to realisticaly test it

but anyway after doing it on r7d1 even tho the alarm didnt reach spawn cap

[prisma zodiac]

for shadows yea

[boreal flame]

i am pretty sure there is nothing wrong with them

[prisma zodiac]

its just gonna start lagging on near spawn cap unless you have uber pc specs

[boreal flame]

i think it might have been something with the spitter bug. I dont have a lot of experience with coding but if I am right the memory could leak into the region that deals and keeps track of spawns

[prisma zodiac]

it has happened once before

due to a very specific bug

but that one was already wack

theres a bug if you return to lobby to early while dropping on a level with uplinks that it breaks the level (makes it unable to be finished and when you start an uplink breaks the level immedtialy)

[boreal flame]

but if its something like that its probably impossible to replicate it and that is fine with me

as long as the map works next time i am fine with it

[prisma zodiac]

a part of the speed squad had it happen where the shadow spawning uplink in r2c1 spawned 50 times at once and made a shadow surge

[daring pilot]

R7D2 can do that too

Idk why

It’s shadow specific

Or at least it feels like it

[tough atlas]

This game keeps getting more and more hilarious with those glitches

No idea that existed

[daring pilot]

Yeah I have a clip of it

Spawned a shadow giant surge on D2

Was so stupid

I loved it, but ik other people would get really mad

[prisma zodiac]

the uplink issue is actually smth that can happen and WILL ruin a casual run, cuz you wont realize it

[daring pilot]

And it was frustrating the 2nd time it happened

[prisma zodiac]

say you wanna do r4c1 as a beginner

[boreal flame]

holy, dont give 10cc any ideas

[daring pilot]

Is this the terminal locking?

[prisma zodiac]

you return to lobby to switch cfoam to mines

The you play the level main only

but extract scan never appears

[daring pilot]

wat

[prisma zodiac]

Terminal doesnt „lock“

it moreso spams the uplink start a million times

and breaks

[daring pilot]

WAIT that explains what happened to my modded level lmao

Thx eva

[prisma zodiac]

its fucked, it forces you to wait for resetting until the level is fully loaded for all players (usually when you see artifact heat pop up)

[daring pilot]

wack

[prisma zodiac]

i actually had it happen on my first alt r4a1 attempt

[daring pilot]

well that explains the birther storm

cool

[prisma zodiac]

went in solo, team came online. Returned to lobby mid drop

we got to uplink

it broke

:>

[daring pilot]

gaming

[tough atlas]

I always wonder how can that stuff actually happen

[daring pilot]

does it happen to corrupt uplinks?

[prisma zodiac]

idk

[tough atlas]

Does the game keep that in memory even after you return to lobby?

[boreal flame]

hey just wanted to say thanks for the help, i am actually happy i learned that about r7d1 today

[daring pilot]

Probably have to exit expedition

[prisma zodiac]

the only level that has them rn is r7c3. And that one didnt get reset speedran yet (for obvious reasons)

[prisma zodiac]

Yes

gotta restart game

[tough atlas]

lel

[daring pilot]

Wack, exit exped usually fixes stuff like that

[prisma zodiac]

us sitting in r4a1 speeds, having to wait 30 extra seconds to reset

[daring pilot]

Permanent fog and things along those lines are usually lobby locked

[prisma zodiac]

its similar to sound bug that wont go away

[daring pilot]

ah

[tough atlas]

Reminds me of a weird occurance I only had once with the ingame lfg, where I quitted a lobby, joined another one and I could still read/hear the players from the previous lobby

Even after they dropped in

I literally had to quit the game or I'd hear 2 games and 2 ingame-vcs at the same time

[boreal flame]

that sounds dope

[half hornet]

Least quirky Unity behavior

[twin dirge]

we do a little trolling

play the scout sound into the mic

[fresh bronze]

Holy shit thats a good idea

[fresh bronze]

this idea is worth buying nitro so i can use it as a soundboard

[kind swan]

me who already had nitro

but I'm too lazy

[fresh bronze]

haha nitro nerd

[light lagoon]

I actually did that with me and my group (3-man). Me and one of them went and recorded a version that sounds like you're the one triggering it, and another that is distant so it sounds like someone else triggered it. We actually managed to make the other guy (completely unaware of this) freak out in a run by playing the close one, causing him to wake a room with a Scout in it. He wasn't happy with us afterwards.

[fresh bronze]

any tips for r7c3 pe

having trouble with the overload

[twin dirge]

I love that you made the two versions, ultimate trolling

[hexed vapor]

Need to split attention effectively.

Loot the majority of the ammo very quickly, get corrupted uplinks out of the way as soon as you can.

Kind of a pub-slayer just because it gets considerably more challenging the more dead weight you have.

[fresh bronze]

bots lmfao

[hexed vapor]

Bit of an L

[kind swan]

[fresh bronze]

pov you forgot to change from biotracker to something else since a bot was given bio so now you have 2 bios in one run

[light lagoon]

They weren't even perfect versions, since we had some background noise sadly. I kinda wanna go back and re-record them at some point to make cleaner versions and then wait a few months or so until they've completely forgotten about it and do it again when they least expect it. 👀

[fresh bronze]

to lazy to go back

[livid heath]

I have something cooking diabolically

[half hornet]

Cosmetic mod?...

[livid heath]

Maybe…

I really love the falcon mask so ill try make it from that

But now enjoy this

[eternal dragon]

Epic

[half hornet]

God, i feel sick... Anyway, time for another C3 attempt, where's that LFG

[eternal dragon]

sending positive vibes

[winter wharf]

which lfg are you talking about

[half hornet]

Alright, i'm gonna post it myself since it seems the rest of the discord is done with it

its gonna be in eastern and western

[winter wharf]

ah I see

[pliant pasture]

good luck team! you got this

[half hornet]

Finally, its over.

[plush basin]

Nice one

[half hornet]

Shelling stays winning

i love screaming "STOP RESISTING" as i mag dump a charger

We almost wiped like 3 times on giant chargers

thank lord my supply efficiency also came with revival efficiency

32% artefact heat, that's a fucking record

the number became just straight up white, i've never seen that

[pliant pasture]

hell ya! good job @half hornet and @winter wharf !

[half hornet]

Pistol got a lot more stagger power than i expected.

[twin dirge]

nerf pistol confirmed

[prisma zodiac]

@winter wharf how was it

[narrow gulch]

rifle:

[prisma zodiac]

Tbh both stagger chargers in 1 bullet

and in that case pistol is superior due to better efficiency

[narrow gulch]

wait pistol can?????

[prisma zodiac]

stagger multi

barely reaches it

its why im baffled rifle has 5 base dmg AND a BETTER stagger multi

Like WTF

[narrow gulch]

holy fuck yeah BARELY is accurate

[obtuse surge]

BUFF THE PISTOL

RANGE

[half hornet]

i wouldn't mind

[prisma zodiac]

r5 pistol?

[kind swan]

Are people coming around to discover pistol has increased Stagger now?

Seeing my bots shoot stagger a striker 1 shot at a time with pistol is kinda funny ngl

[narrow gulch]

I just didnt care lmfao

[kind swan]

1.5x stagger iirc.

[hexed vapor]

I've come around to Pistol not being so bad, but it's still kind of meh.

[kind swan]

Rifles is like 1.75x

[hexed vapor]

Its breakpoints are still ass, its range is still ass.

[kind swan]

Pistol is like hel pp but it has damage

In terms of stagger usage at least

Then again Hel revo exists

[winter wharf]

it was fine apart from one thing but I don't want to talk about it

[nocturne flax]

IMO pistol needs range and better sounding firing sound

every other gun feels powerful for me

but pistol just sounds like shit

maybe add a little bit of screen shake or something

[kind swan]

Make it shoot like high cal but change nothing else

(Aside from rof)

[wary olive]

you like rifle sound?

[hoary ore]

door closed ;-;

[fallow wasp]

Pulled on the handle and it came off

Sorry bud

they didn't use enough glue

[coarse berry]

Wish.com security door

[subtle oriole]

Oh hell yeah

Nice job guys

Well done

Meanwhile i can't even beat R4C3 main

[tough atlas]

I dont remember that map by memory but that stuff usually happens with HEAVY desynch and can bork a run

[kind latch]

why is it that when i lose audio in gtfo i start stuttering and then i crash

how do i fix this

[half hornet]

That's just one of the game's quirks. Had it happen to me once too. Probably some kind of a memory leak.

[kind swan]

[half hornet]

In my case it appears to have been caused by ordering bots to put their sentries down.

With each order more and more sounds dissappeared until it finally crashed.

[kind swan]

.

[jaunty hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548486572811747328/747581149034840074/umm_wait_meme.jpeg

[kind latch]

i love it when gtfo is so quirky and fun!

sadge

just lost my r4d2 run cause of it

[half hornet]

That's rough.

[daring pilot]

It happens the most in levels with gen clusters and spitters

Try shutting doors between yourself and the spitters (like make it so that they would have to break a door to reach you)

[half hornet]

Hm

The one time it happened to me was R6D3

Last I checked it didn't have any of those things

[subtle oriole]

I have never had an issue with gtfo having game breaking bugs I am so lucky

The bugs I deal with are like.. being able to see the map/not hearing blood doors after a checkpoint

Or the bots all talking over each other

[tough atlas]

Depends on the definition of game breaking and bugs IMHO

[subtle oriole]

Game breaking = game is no longer playable or finishable. I.e. dead runs

[tough atlas]

Black hole of Doom doesn't bork the game to the point where you just crash (AFAIK at least) while spitter audio bug does eventually crash the game

[subtle oriole]

Game changing = the game is impacted in some way, but is playable

I've never had a game breaking bug in my 220 hours of time

And the sentiment on bugs here makes me feel lucky in that regard

[subtle oriole]

It's an LoD calculation issue so I know how to fix it easily when it happens

[tough atlas]

Like, people being able to put cells in wrong gen if they joined midway in R2B2 IS game breaking by your definition, but borking your run by fucking up gen order in R4B1 Extreme isn't really a bug

[tough atlas]

Well, if the door thing is true it assumes that there's a door you can close

Unless going in a dead end and closing the door there does works too?

[subtle oriole]

By 'black hole of doom' you're talking about when objects don't render and you just see through the world, right?

[tough atlas]

No. I'm talking about the liquid drip glitch that envelopes the screen

Oh with LoD you meant that?

The "seeing through the world" thing is only annoying and under very rare circumstances it's an "issue" a bit

[subtle oriole]

Oh what the fuck

I've never seen that lmfao

Does it make the screen go black?

[tough atlas]

#1070901083540553819 message

[subtle oriole]

I have no idea how to fix that, I don't think that's LoD

Probably a pipeline issue

[subtle oriole]

LMAO yeah that looks like a pipeline issue to me

Gl fixing that

That'll probably never be fixed

[deft kiln]

Do you play on default fov

[subtle oriole]

No, I play quake pro

(120)

I'm a REAL gamer 💪

[deft kiln]

So the culling issue. Where rooms dont render is because of that

[subtle oriole]

Yeah idgaf about it

It's easy to fix and doesn't bother me

It's only nearly fucked me over on a scout kill once on R3C1 in the resource room

Which would've been BAD

[deft kiln]

Yup but the game works fairly well at default fov

[subtle oriole]

Yeah but it makes me sick

I can't play at low FoV on any game without getting motion sick

Makes me feel like I have binoculars on

[deft kiln]

A lot of the “game breaking” bugs are also descyn related

[prisma zodiac]

^

[subtle oriole]

Yeah I only play single player so idk

[prisma zodiac]

like what are game breaking bugs that can happen that arent desync related and dont require being blind

1. stuff not spawning (cells in r2e1 for example)
2. uplink reset bug (returning to lobby before level has loaded)
3. infinite scout scream

[deft kiln]

Interact bug as host “checkpoint bugs

[prisma zodiac]

wats more

[subtle oriole]

infinite scout scream

[deft kiln]

That one has a fix btw

[prisma zodiac]

well… fix jish

[subtle oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/what-sponge-bob-shocked-confused-what-the-gif-12645964

[prisma zodiac]

can you fix it in solo?

[deft kiln]

If you have a bot

Yeah

Works the exact same

If you are alone then now

No

[prisma zodiac]

its still a game breaking bug where the fix is unironically more rare of a situation than the bug

but i love that theres a fix

[subtle oriole]

Is it just audio

[prisma zodiac]

no

[subtle oriole]

Or does it act like an error alarm

LMFAO

[prisma zodiac]

infinite screaming scout is a insta game break

it is a huge memory leak issue thing?

oh yeah, thats another.
Spitter bug

@subtle oriole basically. Enemies wont spawn, move, attack or rly die. They just kinda disappear when killed usually

Also makes you unable to finish the mission (but you can usually get to the ending)

[subtle oriole]

Lol I feel like I'm playing a different game to y'all

[prisma zodiac]

ive had it happen twice

it only happens on r7d1 i think

which obviously isnt a suprise

[subtle oriole]

That's mother, right?

[deft kiln]

It can happen on any map just you need to be lagging

Tbh we don’t know the full reason it happens I think it is a lag issue with wave stacking

[prisma zodiac]

oh yeah, this makes me remember

i gotta tell our dear calle about the uplink lvl reset bug

actually happened to fuck me over on r4a1 when alt r4 dropped

[deft kiln]

Actually a bug players run into

[hexed vapor]

Why is Badger going on a PR bend?

[half hornet]

Wut

[prisma zodiac]

What is happening

[hexed vapor]

I dunno, they're picking fights in their own thread.

[prisma zodiac]

thread what thread

[hexed vapor]

About the PR head glitch TechTM

Reddit.

[nocturne flax]

badger discovers old bug

[hexed vapor]

But like, bruh, I thought they were firmly in the revo camp.

[nocturne flax]

then proceeds to say stupid shi

[prisma zodiac]

they are contrary for contrary sake

like with high cal, burst cannon etc

[nocturne flax]

more news at 10

[prisma zodiac]

tbh, anything they say is to be taken with a very big „?“

its just a meme at this point

also, Dragon. Howd you like PR on e1?

[nocturne flax]

literally the best level for pr

[prisma zodiac]

it was the first time i felt like the gun was a legit good choice

might not be „the best“

but damn, thats huge for it

huh?

[nocturne flax]

banned

[prisma zodiac]

why delete that

[hexed vapor]

Wave clear, mixed with bosses, mixed with small shadows, and with very little else.

[nocturne flax]

everything thats not a charger

you good

with pr

you put a charger

gg

[prisma zodiac]

yea

Level is mostly smalls, shadows (and shadow scouts/giants) plus tank

Charger and normal giant

and then theres bbc

[daring pilot]

There are regular chargers in E1?

[nocturne flax]

big charger on gen room

[daring pilot]

yeah ik ab the bbc error and gen room

[nocturne flax]

but yeah instead of just sitting with revo you just sit with pr on extreme

allows for 2 and 2 setup way better

unlike ogf

[daring pilot]

mmm ic

[nocturne flax]

talking about pr

[daring pilot]

I assume og was burst cancel?

meta at least

[nocturne flax]

no

just dumbasses running with hammers

[daring pilot]

oh right no stam lmao

[hexed vapor]

The alternative strat was: HEL Revo + Burst Cannon, HEL Revo + Burst Cannon, HEL Revo + Burst Cannon, HEL Revo + Burst Cannon

[prisma zodiac]

oh, chargers and after was about stuff pr dislikes

[hexed vapor]

Or both.

[prisma zodiac]

sometimes hel revo and revo

when someone wanted to be spicy

[daring pilot]

Bbc just scary as fuck for me no matter what I’m packing

R5B1 gonna be a good newbie jumpscare

[prisma zodiac]

ramping r5b1 main error would be funny

[daring pilot]

:)

Inb4 R5B1 PE becomes an lfg roadblock bc nobody wants to run extreme after the first time

[winter wharf]

thermals are nice for it, yeah, but I don't think I'd call them make or break

[prisma zodiac]

Ah @hexed vapor i saw the thread its just someone throwing a hissy fit trying to mock people

[winter wharf]

at the end of the day you'll still have a biotracker, will most likely funnel 95% of enemies down one side and should be able to get them regardless of thermals or not

[prisma zodiac]

true. Its definetly helpful and neat for less experienced parties tho

[daring pilot]

Wait there’s a pr head glitch?

Wha

[winter wharf]

it's more so a thing with giants as opposed to PR

[daring pilot]

huh

[winter wharf]

take off the shoulder, the head disappears but the hitbox remains

[daring pilot]

Wack

Ohhhh wait I think I saw that video

[nocturne flax]

we were talking about the individual in question who posted the vid

[daring pilot]

Ah well then

[prisma zodiac]

its just shoulder break making headhitbox stay but invisible

[daring pilot]

[prisma zodiac]

PR being the only gun that can use it at all. But then… why and why take pr for it

[deft kiln]

All mains can use it

[winter wharf]

you can't do it with specials?

[deft kiln]

It doesn’t save ammo on a large amount of them

[prisma zodiac]

use it as in „worth“

well probably is decent on bullpup

[winter wharf]

ah, gotcha

[prisma zodiac]

which is funny

[nocturne flax]

taking pr for giants its like taking sniper for smalls

[prisma zodiac]

cuz bullpup and pr

[winter wharf]

hey don't diss my shotgun

[daring pilot]

Doesn’t burst rifle have a good prec mod?

Could be dum

[prisma zodiac]

i guess it means you could technically 3 shot giants from the fromt with choke mod?

but then

WHY

[deft kiln]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940026490949619782/1110196352551505930/prifleonemag.mp4 clip from badger

[prisma zodiac]

it takes so long to do

[obtuse surge]

this is so sad

can we remove burst cannon recoil

[prisma zodiac]

0.87 iirc

Good but not insane

[daring pilot]

I’ll take it

[prisma zodiac]

will do 30% extra dmg on invis headglitch head

[daring pilot]

I picked it up again last night in my R4A tier gen chat runs

And it feels so good but man is my aim shit

That 20m range is just nice to have over AR because I like taking shotguns

[prisma zodiac]

how about

dmr, hel revo or rifle

jk

we all know

[winter wharf]

burst rifle always felt weird to me, like a more punishing carbine

it's a decent gun though

[prisma zodiac]

the true range god i hel shotty

[daring pilot]

i can’t use dmr for shit ;-;

I will use rifle it’s nice

[prisma zodiac]

Agree
Imo its good, but not that good

[daring pilot]

and hel Revo occasionally but i prefer BR because it feels nice

[daring pilot]

Yeah, decent gun that I like

Also is the only other gun with the sniper flashlight

For some reason

Oh wait hel rifle too

[nocturne flax]

Br its so good if you can click on heads

[daring pilot]

Yeah only main with a super long range flashlight, which is nice to have if you’re running flashlight

[nocturne flax]

hel revo its just no tought head empty gun

just kinda click on thing and they die

[daring pilot]

I like it bc if I miss one shot in the burst I can usually hit the others

I don’t waste all 3 bullets usually

Also has a super decent reload time

[prisma zodiac]

br feels weird compared to the clean shots of dmr

[daring pilot]

yeah, again my aim is kind of shit right now though

And I’ve always sucked with DMR

[winter wharf]

maybe I should've been running burst rifle for r1a1 solo speeds

I got my time though so eh whatever

[prisma zodiac]

sub 7 when?

[winter wharf]

that will probably require a lot of rng and grinding

would be sick though

I still find it funny that you and kenny got the same time

[prisma zodiac]

its the reason im not running it

[daring pilot]

What was the final time on AWOL, like 3 ish minutes?

[prisma zodiac]

5:58

[daring pilot]

damn

[prisma zodiac]

theres only 3 current missions below 4 minutes

r1a1, r1b1 and r3a2

tho… r4a1 is freaking 4:01

god dammit

[daring pilot]

The R1 one’s surprise me tbh

[winter wharf]

R1A1 is literally 3 zones

[daring pilot]

Super good key rng in zone 50 I assume?

[prisma zodiac]

r1a1 is 2:34

[winter wharf]

Yeah, good key + hsu RNG which is exceptionally rare

[daring pilot]

Damn

[winter wharf]

solo WR is 4:51

[daring pilot]

Oh right, 🪵

[prisma zodiac]

you can do the level casually going quick sub 5

just going for terminals n all

its also super basic

R1b1 is a cool run though with a 4 way split

[winter wharf]

solo logless is my 7:28 iirc, don't think anyone other than me has really done solo logless

[daring pilot]

I like R1B1 for soloing

[prisma zodiac]

well… kinda? Before the data was mapped

[winter wharf]

ye

hang on, what's been the fastest solo logless time then (if we know that)

[prisma zodiac]

i had a 6:5smth

i dont remember the actual time

was off a random ass D hsu tho i pinged back then

[winter wharf]

I see, if you're going to the terminal D hsu is probably best anyway

[prisma zodiac]

yea

[winter wharf]

I had a very quick run when I went for more runs (close C key, didn't need to go on terminal, was at class 4 around 2:30) but I wiped to the alarm because I was washed

[prisma zodiac]

[winter wharf]

yeah, most my runs I got to the alarm around 3:30

[prisma zodiac]

i dont remember what general log time is

i wanna say 1:45? But i havent done it in ages

[winter wharf]

can always check hani's run I guess

[daring pilot]

also found a funny where burst rifle will one burst crawling strikers bc after head pop it hits body

[prisma zodiac]

it still shouldnt be able to 1 tap no?

[daring pilot]

No?

[hexed vapor]

Client only.

[daring pilot]

Ah

[prisma zodiac]

tbh thats an outlier

[winter wharf]

yeah hani's was around 1:45

[daring pilot]

Good thing I always host

[prisma zodiac]

Yea ya need 3 actual headshot hits

which obviously wont happen

[daring pilot]

Is there like a good explanation of GTFO headshot math?

Bc it still confuses me

There like a Mr Dragon video?

[hexed vapor]

In what way?

[daring pilot]

Just a general overview of how it’s calculated

[winter wharf]

Gun has base damage
Gun has precision multiplier
Enemy has headshot multiplier

Times them all together to get your damage value

[daring pilot]

Bc I’ve seen so many conflicting arguements

Ok thanks pachi

Epic

[hexed vapor]

Where, tho?

[prisma zodiac]

Gun dmg x headshot multi of enemy x guns precision multi

[daring pilot]

I assume it’s a little more complicated for BR, Carbine, and BC because parts of the burst can destroy a head

[prisma zodiac]

what jish recently talked about was just a missconception

[prisma zodiac]

its just 3-4-5 singular bullets

so if headbreakd they dont hit (unless client due to desync)

eh lag

[daring pilot]

Cool ok, I’ve just seen so much conflicting information on headshots over the last year and a half

[hexed vapor]

WHERE

Wtf

[daring pilot]

Literally here

In channels

I’ve never asked bc I wasn’t bothered

[deft kiln]

Just me

Lol

[hexed vapor]

Apparently.

[nocturne flax]

it is me

[daring pilot]

But it’s kinda just a general thing, like how people still argue ab the dumbest stuff in this game

[nocturne flax]

i was the one spreading missinformation about headshots

[deft kiln]

I assumed headshots are done in a way that makes math easier

[hexed vapor]

I've seen people confused about how the multiplication works, but I feel like it's fairly well understood.

[daring pilot]

yeah I did too

[prisma zodiac]

listen to ray often. Can help
Or me obviously cuz im the best god gamer you can ask

[deft kiln]

Also why the fuck is base health 25 and we convert that to 100%

[daring pilot]

When I was new I saw some guy say sniper did like 240 damage on all heads

[hexed vapor]

That's not #gtfo-chat though, that's random pubs.

Random pubs are sometimes pretty stupid.

[prisma zodiac]

i still dont trust that. Especially cuz it works the same way as math just being „all friendly fire is 200% dmg“

[daring pilot]

ig yeah it is mostly pubs

[deft kiln]

In the data block it is

[hexed vapor]

It depends on the damage source.

[deft kiln]

Nothing changes except the math looks better

[pliant pasture]

nasally inhale
"whut up, its ya boi, Weed Throne comin at ya with another tips and tricks guide for the hit horror game Get The F O.

head shot multipliers reduce damage, ask anybody, what happens when you multiply by a negative number? the number goes down. don't trust the geeks, they don't see the hidden geometries, i do."

[hexed vapor]

The vast majority of FF is 1/2x

[daring pilot]

Trying to think of like bigger misconceptions I remember learning about

[hexed vapor]

But sentries are inconsistent, or at least they were in R2.

[prisma zodiac]

thats like doing 2x0.25x8 = 4

Why not just 0.5x8 wtf

[deft kiln]

Yeah thank you

[nocturne flax]

can we please give autosentry a 1x pres multi

[prisma zodiac]

1/2x? Its 2x ?

[hexed vapor]

Player health % isn't really designed to be a health value.

[hexed vapor]

No, you take half damage from FF.

[prisma zodiac]

recent things were pretty consistent on it being 2x

[hexed vapor]

You have 25 HP back-end.

[deft kiln]

But why not 100

Then just make math simple

[prisma zodiac]

if you have 1/4th the shown health and take 50% that means you take 2x for practical effect

[hexed vapor]

Again, your health value isn't something you're supposed to know about or interact with.

[prisma zodiac]

unless you tell me that you say you lost 3% when a striker licks you

[hexed vapor]

The only reason anyone cares about FF values is because of the old datamining rules.

[prisma zodiac]

the health value ingame is litteraly 100%
its just??

[hexed vapor]

Forcing us to find some kind of common language that was allowed on the server.

[prisma zodiac]

untrue. Being hit by sniper for 2x dmg is important to know

[hexed vapor]

It's a %

not a flat value.

[deft kiln]

It is

But I just don’t like how they chose base numbers for their %

[hexed vapor]

You take 3 damage and lose 12%.

[deft kiln]

Yup

[prisma zodiac]

if you change it to we have 100% and take 2x dmg it changes nothing for calcs with FF

[hexed vapor]

100*

[deft kiln]

Nothing changes I am just mad at the base number of 25

[hexed vapor]

Not 100%, 100.

[prisma zodiac]

for data stuff i agree. Thats how it works

but its just stupid to talk about it in that way for practical stuff

you dont tell someone we take 50% dmg from friendly fire

they will be so fucking confused

[deft kiln]

Idk what is happening

Anymore

Anyways

[hexed vapor]

I just wouldn't talk about FF anyway.

[deft kiln]

Can we get an fov fix please

[prisma zodiac]

it comes up „decently“ often

bot discussions, sentry/mine discussions. Fresh player question regarding friendly fire

[daring pilot]

oh are there any levels in R5 with spitters and generators? Unrelated, but I want to test the spitter bug

[deft kiln]

I want the reticle on my screen to mean something

[deft kiln]

What spitter bug

[daring pilot]

Sound bug

[deft kiln]

I don’t think I am familiar

[prisma zodiac]

r5b2

[hexed vapor]

Two gens, yeah.

[prisma zodiac]

Does r5a3 have spitters?

[hexed vapor]

I feel like no.

R5B4 has spitters + cell puzzles, just gotto survive the whole thing.

R5E1, as well.

[daring pilot]

yeah I want to figure out if it’s spitters, spitters and gens, or specifically spitters and gen clusters

Because I’ve only ever seen it on R2D1 and R4D2

[prisma zodiac]

R2B4

[daring pilot]

Yeah that’s a good no gen test

[prisma zodiac]

also r2b2

[daring pilot]

But I’ve run that level a LOT and never found an issue

Yeah, curious to see if I can get B2 or R6C2 to break

[prisma zodiac]

when you do it for 150 times over 3 hours it will happen…

or randomly when you are unlucky like me in a recent run

[daring pilot]

F

Also R3B2

[prisma zodiac]

i remember getting sound bug on r3b2

but we didnt crash…. I think?

and god

[daring pilot]

Interesting, so it can be with just gens

[prisma zodiac]

@winter wharf knows how much time i spend in there

[prisma zodiac]

hm?

r3b2 has spitters

[daring pilot]

Yeah it has spitters and gens

No cluster

I didn’t know if it could proc off of spitters and gens or if it was specific to gen clusters

[prisma zodiac]

its definetly spitter based

r3a2 has both btw

[daring pilot]

Yeah, ik that

[prisma zodiac]

but spitters are so rare

that it never happened to me

[daring pilot]

Yeah and there are like no levels with spitters and no gens other than R2B4

[winter wharf]

how many times can I say it's not a speedrun if it takes you X weeks/months

[prisma zodiac]

all speedruns stop counting on speedrun.com

[daring pilot]

Really makes me think it’s specifically spitters and generators

[prisma zodiac]

is there a mission with spitters but no gens?

[daring pilot]

Or that it doesn’t matter because even if it was only spitters, there’s like 1 level that has spitters and no gen

[daring pilot]

R2B4

Does DX have spitters?

[winter wharf]

I'm trying to think of spitter missions, but it's kinda difficult

R4C2 has a gen in 14

[daring pilot]

OH wait crypto

Nvm crypto has a gen

And will probably break for other reasons

[winter wharf]

R4D2 has a generator

R5E1 had generators

[daring pilot]

Yeah R4D2 has been confirmed to break

[winter wharf]

even though that's not in the game anywhere it's where I've seen spitter bug the most

[daring pilot]

We’re looking for missions with spitters but no gens

Which currently is only R2B4

[prisma zodiac]

r2c1?

[daring pilot]

does that level have spitters?

[prisma zodiac]

side zones

at the end yea

[daring pilot]

And no gen?

Ohhh right OG had a gen

[prisma zodiac]

ye

[daring pilot]

yeah i don’t remember much of R2

Only levels I ran more than once were B4 and D1

[high vortex]

I’m a really big fan of R2D2 but maybe that’s just me

[coarse berry]

r2d1 superiority

[high vortex]

R2D1 can be fun, especially double pulling the blood doors

But I like R2D2 just a hair more tbh

[coarse berry]

why are you shouting

[high vortex]

Why are you so quiet

[deft kiln]

R these new

And who can see them

[hexed vapor]

I cannot.

[deft kiln]

I can’t either Time sent me the screenshot

[deft kiln]

Do you get the black box on your screen or na

[hexed vapor]

Wym?

I think no.

[deft kiln]

Like the black box that grows to your entire screen

[hexed vapor]

Liquid bug?

[deft kiln]

Is it liquid related?

[hexed vapor]

P sure it is.

[narrow gulch]

damn its on discord now too

[deft kiln]

Yeah do you get liquid bug

[narrow gulch]

I love this platform

[hexed vapor]

Exceptionally rarely.

[deft kiln]

Because I don’t seem to get it at all compared to others

[hexed vapor]

I got it a few months back I think.

[deft kiln]

Yeah sounds about right

I think I have gotten it once in 2000 hours

I have gotten the orb before but not the box

[hexed vapor]

It was def more common in R2, R3.

I'm not sure that there's a difference tbh.

[deft kiln]

it feels different but could be the same issue

[deft kiln]

Do you get liquid bug?

[narrow gulch]

ive gotten it once on r3d1

[deft kiln]

Makes sense

Honestly I just feel like I should build the same pc as bread as then watcht the magic happen

[deft kiln]

So if we mod out the liquid effect

We won’t get anymore liquid bug ?

[hexed vapor]

In theory, no liquid bug.

It's not a thing in R1 afaik.

R2 introduced it (and on-screen liquid) and it's gotten progressively less common since.

[deft kiln]

Honestly might add it to the gtfo fix plugins requests

[hard cape]

Is R8 out?

[deft kiln]

Yup

So good

[astral ferry]

devs really outdid themselves

charger snatcher??

[deft kiln]

I love the cool giant tank

[hard cape]

Im playing Outlast trials as a temporary substitute

[astral ferry]

Permanent**

[deft kiln]

Yeah you shouldn’t come back tbh

[hard cape]

just checking up friends

[narrow gulch]

we got to encounter a shadow charger scout as a result of me crashing and host migrating

[deft kiln]

Ofc Ofc this game very good

[narrow gulch]

in r7c3

it was awesome

[deft kiln]

Oh nice my favourite scout is the teleporting charger scout

[narrow gulch]

it was doing that as well

[solemn wigeon]

my favourite scout is the scout that hits the woah

[narrow gulch]

it was invis even after foamed

[deft kiln]

Yup it is disgusting tbh

[candid dragon]

charger + snatcher = snarger
charger + snatcher = chatcher

[coarse berry]

snarger

[kind swan]

Pablo

[candid dragon]

Pablo is charger tank

[hexed vapor]

Wait, but actually?

Striker -> No WP
Giant -> No WP
Tank -> No WP???

[prisma zodiac]

steam forum complainers suprise me each and every time

[obtuse surge]

i have 6:40 for my run where i was just checking how doable the alarms are

[tough atlas]

Considering I've seen the "purple variant" footage, could it be that is a mix of the liquid effect and glare/bloom?

Which would also explain the aftereffect of having hud fucked up and the bizzarre light glares

[prisma zodiac]

it can happen in multiplr colours

a friend had it green, blue, purple and brownish

[tough atlas]

There must be some sort of reason as per why those variants are less common, right?

Most of what I've seen is black. Personally I've had a bizzare white-ish effect once but every other instance has been black.

[prisma zodiac]

as both are incredibly rare idk

ive seen purple (etc) 4 times on friends

black twice

Funnily

it was 2 people

who had those

[fresh bronze]

Mine is the scout behind a blood door

[deft kiln]

Replay ability scouts

But here me out you can deal with them very consistently

[daring pilot]

my favorite is the headless screamer

[wide lion]

jackpot

3x3times bioscan speed 23%)

[pliant pasture]

that's my raver girl alter ego

[pliant pasture]

[tough badger]

the ye olde headless ladder scout

[twin dirge]

pablo being charger tank makes sense

p mom I guess is in her own category

[hearty escarp]

so for R4D1 ALT - final zone with scouts and everything, does anyone have a map of where all the terminals are? I just failed a mission because we didn't have enough ammo to pull the room and I just had knife and couldn't stealth the room well. If I knew where the terminals were it'd be helpful.

[coarse berry]

jump and it's extremely easy to knife kill scouts

[hearty escarp]

too many scouts for that to be reliable

and there's chargers in the zone

and I'm doing it duo with bots, and my other duo partner refuses to help lol

[coarse berry]

i've solo'd the zone with knife, only kill whats on the way to the terminal

there's only 2 spawns for terminals i believe

[hearty escarp]

oh ok, well I knew one of them then

are they both at the back of the zone?

[coarse berry]

ones to the right

[hearty escarp]

oh

lol I should have won that last round then

thanks

[coarse berry]

np

[fresh bronze]

pretty staggeringly close results

shells are basically a perfect match

prisoners are fucking crazy to be firing the high cal as fast as they can

[raven flare]

idk i guess hackett could?
since, hes a big hot cold man

[coarse berry]

high cal's probably a lot better-made than the desert eagle IRL to be honest

the deagle is kind of a meme gun it's not seriously used by any military force

that i know of

[fresh bronze]

yeah id rather shoot the high cal pistol than a desert eagle by a long shot

ofc id never fire a pistol with that much power to begin with

id rather keep my wrist in there current condition

[fresh bronze]

in fairness that goes with a lot of weapons

iirc revolvers dont get used anymore for a variety of reasons

that and you really dont need so much power to kill someone with a gun

[nocturne flax]

shoulder pain its preferable to you know......... becoming a sleeper

[coarse berry]

shoulder pain?

[nocturne flax]

more like shoulder dislocation since they shooting standing up lol

[fresh bronze]

a broken wrist is a quick way to become a sleeper

also talkin wrist since its a pistol

[nocturne flax]

they'are pretty healthy tho

the prisioners

according to a friend of mine their resting heartrate and stuff its pretty on par with people who are active in fitness

[coarse berry]

60bpm is exceptional considering their...situation

[fresh bronze]

i tore a ligament in my wrist shooting a 9mm so its a good thing they have a pretty solid grip on the high cal

[plain saddle]

Clearly some prisoners have had their wrists damaged and replaced - there are the robot hands after all

[fresh bronze]

big brain

must be canon that robot hands are because of gun misuse injuries

[twin dirge]

Biden was right

[fresh bronze]

nah simply improper form

didnt respect the weapon enough and paid the price

[coarse berry]

got to the end of R4E1 as a duo with my friend, told him "I got a really bad feeling about this" as the apex door opened.

I did not enjoy being right.

[half hornet]

Yeah... That bit is pretty much guaranteed death without preparation, and preparation is only happening if someone spoilers it for the rest of the squad.

[coarse berry]

I said to him "I feel like we don't have the ammo." when we saw the surge on the door, made it through it with minimal issues though

but somethin smelled of fuckery

[half hornet]

Maybe with a lot of backpedalling and if someone was lucky enough to bring Cfoam Mine for the sake of it

[coarse berry]

honestly, it was a really great run for a blind r4e1 run with just the two of us

I had about ~60 and ~70 %'s in my bullpup and choke, and buddy had like ~40 and 80% PDW and choke

bots obv didn't help at all so we were SOL pretty fast

[tough atlas]

I think there's many more

I remember OG having something like 4 or 5

[coarse berry]

now that I think about it more i've found 3

only ran it 3 times though

ground level on left, up a level on right, and catwalks back-rightish

[tough atlas]

Map of OG I'm looking at says there's 3

I'll list the zone 67 in a sec

There's only 3 terminals in zone 67

👍

[obtuse surge]

is it even intentional that there are no fog repellers in R4E1 until the bulkhead key zone

like who thought this would be a good idea

probably no one so i think its not intentional

[eternal dragon]

its for the immersion

it really emphasizes on the co-op aspect

so one person has to get the turbine and "save" the others

i think it is a super cool idea!

[half hornet]

I doubt it's that deep, but it is what it is

[nocturne flax]

it really emphasizes my 99% infection resist booster 🙏

[half hornet]

It's literally just "fuck you". That's normal for E

[half hornet]

Oh, that was in my clear. The guy could do anything in the fog and we just had to wait. No worries.

[obtuse surge]

oh true, since R5 all the level are balanced around booster

[half hornet]

Not really. Wouldn't explain R6 being piss easy.

But boy does it help in cheesing the BS

[nocturne flax]

hes joking

[obtuse surge]

did R4 revive matchmaking

about to try

surely

[half hornet]

If anything it just makes it worse since the people are even more spread around. Unless you mm got literally any level.

[obtuse surge]

15M

GOT ONE

one guy is doing the single foam thing

thank you rayalot

[prisma zodiac]

the what

[half hornet]

Shooting blobs one by one instead of going brrrrrrt I presume

Gotta save that 3%...

[obtuse surge]

scary extraction

it did the pausechamp after the scan finished

for like 5s

[half hornet]

The what

[obtuse surge]

when you play with high latency players

it can take a while before the level actually ends

after finishing the scan

[half hornet]

Matchmaking moment, literally never seen that

[obtuse surge]

yeh ok

but we won

hitless c1

matchmaking actually has the better players fr

[half hornet]

Yeah, the Chinese. They're always like that.

[obtuse surge]

[half hornet]

Something about their culture demanding 110% performance at all times, exploits and all. Gotta dab on dem foreigners, China numba one, but unironically.

[reef talon]

On the rare chance I get a matchmaker lobby it is some Asian player with custom cosmetics and infinite resources

They have amazing gaming chairs I guess, idk

[obtuse surge]

C3PE

just like that

[half hornet]

Mm goblins secretly Chads?

[coarse berry]

Does the reactor in e1 secondary do anything to the main expedition

I told my buddy "maybe it powers on filtration systems?" Lol

[deft knot]

It provides you with lots of ammo so you could shoot through the main instead of the boring stealth

[daring pilot]

No

[half hornet]

Nope, just the conventional "extra shit to do"

And you get neat supplies as a bonus, provided you don't waste them all defending

But jesus christ, main after that was a fuckin slooooog

I hate shadows so much

[obtuse surge]

no one actually likes that part

but the devs learned