#gtfo-spoiler-chat

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fringe surge
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been running hel rev and lmg(veruta)

plush basin
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I ran with carbine and veruta

fringe surge
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the rev's stagger has saved me way too many times

plush basin
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Its probably a strategy thing more than weapons tbh

pliant pasture
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hmm maybe funneling surge alarms can take a little pressure off your ammo

fringe surge
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dont think that level has a surge

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:catt

pliant pasture
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hmm what am i thinking of?

plush basin
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B3 maybe?

pliant pasture
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oh D2 mb

fringe surge
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Is all good lol

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I dont look forward to that either

plush basin
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I think my team would have benefitted from going loud and getting it done quick more

fringe surge
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E1 with extreme has proved to be less awful than C3 PE for me so far

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lol

plush basin
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We tried to hold them off while doing good stealth stuff but it winds up spending more ammo in the long run

narrow gulch
fringe surge
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typically for us we kinda send one dude inside the main bulkhead
snipe the scout
and just blast the rest

narrow gulch
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granted playing with diff ppl

fringe surge
plush basin
narrow gulch
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ive only given it like 5 attempts or smth but ive gotten 3 e1 extremes in the same amount

plush basin
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But sniping the scout was our ambition if possible

fringe surge
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so uhhh

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FunE

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3rd try btw

narrow gulch
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oof

fringe surge
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:kek

narrow gulch
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my internet died when I was host immediately after reactor one time that was terrifying

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we didnt lose anything though

fringe surge
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lol

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good luck with that
I'm stubborn so I'll prob end up clearing the C tiers before moving downwards

unique gazelle
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Hel rifle or chokemod are good to have for whoever is holding off the charger error

fringe surge
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hel rifle was considered but it's kinda hard to get em aligned for max efficiency

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at that point I've considered the hel gun

unique gazelle
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You don't have to really

plush basin
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I actually didn't like running the hel gun on that one despite there being so many chargers

unique gazelle
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Even if you kill one charge per bullet it's still very efficient

plush basin
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If a couple come around the corner with the .2 delay its kinda hard to get them all off you (though this is probs a personal preference)

narrow gulch
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without line up hel rifle is more efficient yeah

unique gazelle
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28 bullets is plenty, and ideally you want the defender to be holding, say a 3-4 use ammo pack

fringe surge
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hmm

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I'll try that

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hel rev and hel rifle
the return of double hel weapons

unique gazelle
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The ammo situation in C3 could be quite tight, unless you melee kill pretty much everything in stealth and no scouts wake-up

fringe surge
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r6 D2 flashbacks

unique gazelle
fringe surge
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the carbine is a surprise

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I thought the front armour would reduce it's low ish dmg

kind swan
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.

fringe surge
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I know it's good at melting normals/shadows

kind swan
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They don't reduce damage. Because of armor

unique gazelle
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Carbine has one of the fastest TTK iirc

kind swan
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Aside from no headshot multi

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Funny fact. Carbine/Burst rifles can occi kill normal scouts

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Assuming all bullets in the burst connect

fringe surge
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very nice

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I shall use this

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thank you

winter wharf
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@fringe surge what I recommend for C3 is leaving a 4 use ammo in the starting zone near extraction for the end

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other than that it's making sure you don't take too long

fringe surge
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ok
thanks

kind swan
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If only SMG was better and had a better flashlight

unique gazelle
narrow gulch
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pdw 👍

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god

kind swan
pliant pasture
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PDW definitely deserves scritches behind the ears and head pats

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its a good dog gun

kind swan
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I can only hope and wait until heavy smg comes and see what they do to it

unique gazelle
kind swan
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Thermals are helpful but not required.

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In some circumstances make it easier given how the player handles the visual help

unique gazelle
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Oh I meant the asthetic bit, but yea the actual functionality is cool too

half hornet
coarse berry
hidden crater
kind swan
coarse berry
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yeah, exactly

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the heavy SMG would need stats on-par with, or slightly better than the PDW (cause no thermal)

half hornet
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it'll probably become a special

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we could use more of those

kind swan
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That is possible as well

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But idk

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It'd be competing with HAR/MGs aside from the Main > Special buff

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Next to ammo being cucked

coarse berry
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regardless it needs buffs

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just by looking at the stats on the wiki page it sucks

kind swan
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I hate the fact Machine pistol feels better than SMG

coarse berry
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SMG and bullpup are turd primaries

kind swan
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Bullpup mostly gets shit on because of that reload

coarse berry
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even without it it would be a crap gun compared to the regular Malatack AR

kind swan
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It's essentially the Recoil controll skill issued players choice

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I remember someone saying normal AR has a lot of recoil

coarse berry
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yeah which annoys me cause its my favorite looking rifle lol

kind swan
coarse berry
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higher-caliber bullpup rifle when binoZoomies

half hornet
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yes please

kind swan
coarse berry
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the AR drum mag that somehow only holds 30

kind swan
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Not that dumb looking skinny pistol caliber looking mag

kind swan
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But the drum mag on AR warrants bigger

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But imo they should just change it be a mag

coarse berry
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yeah the drums on the AR /b urst rifle look very stupid IMO but i doubt they'd change it

kind swan
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Otherwise give it bigger mag capacity

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I didn't even realize Burst had a drum

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The hell

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That's some call of duty Create a class bs

coarse berry
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most of the guns in this game make no sense physically

half hornet
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i don't know why, but these particular pants give me Dark Souls 3 Fallen Knight armor vibes

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kind swan
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The fact modded guns make more visual sense is concerning

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But devs: No modded content

coarse berry
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guns and sights are just very like...'future-y'?

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futuristic for the sake of looking futuristic

kind swan
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I just want some genuine iron sights ngl

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But we still get some form of reticle sight

half hornet
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pistols all have iron sights

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i'm surprised they havent forced one on any of them

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hell, putting bullpup's sight on HCP would be a goddamn buff to that thing

kind swan
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Pistol's sights remind me of Apex

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More often than not. That bothers me

half hornet
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titanfalls guns were based except default wingman

kind swan
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@Sawedoffshotgun

half hornet
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i know right?

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even reloads the same

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they could just give it a basic bitch boomstick...

kind swan
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Though

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Mozambique is far more effective

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Funnily enough sawed off was buffed the last we saw it

wary olive
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There's a mod with the arbalist sight on pistol it was pretty cool

eternal dragon
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heat

wary olive
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🥵

prisma zodiac
# fringe surge at that point I've considered the hel gun

hel rifle (with or without pen) is more efficient vs chargers than hel gun

its the same efficiency as choke mod vs them aswell but has possible pen kills and any hit is a kill (vs choke not doing so after 15 min or when a single pellet misses)

half hornet
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i found using hel rifle against chargers insufferable

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something about combination of rev-up combined with how chargers move... disgusting

prisma zodiac
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huh

pliant pasture
half hornet
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they run straight at me, and yet hitchance is like 60%

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XCOM rookie over here

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Anyway: R4C3 PE is kinda bullshit.

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Just in the most classic fassion.

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what's the optimal tool combo on that one? obviously bio because shadows, probably a sniper or shotgun to deal with chargers... not sure how useful cfoam and mines are. There are some doors, but then there are also no doors. Big thonk.

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the squad was on its' way to do main scan and we just got absolutely rushed down by like 10 chargers from each side

velvet linden
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mines + bio + 2 burst sentry will beat prettymuch any level

deft knot
# half hornet what's the optimal tool combo on that one? obviously bio because shadows, probab...

iirc there are doors to deal with every single alarm, except maybe the last one before getting the fog turbine as the spawns for that can be a bit rng, but even then there's a ladder for chokepoint focus. And most of the charger alarms are class 4 or below if I'm correct? With c-foam and mines you'll usually have enough time to finish the entire alarm scan before the chargers get to touch you so that can save quite a bit of ammo which is arguably the most important resource in C3. When I did it we had bio/cfoam/mine/shotgun sentry, I suppose you can take sniper sentry(s) as well if you can find the correct place to put it, burst sentry is ok I guess but they're aren't that great against chargers in general

deft knot
velvet linden
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sniper sentry barely fires, I wouldn’t recommend using any sentry other than burst

deft kiln
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If blood does weren’t in the game 3 sentry bio would be my go to

velvet linden
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no it’s for no reason

deft kiln
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Your right my bad

nocturne flax
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you have everything cover

velvet linden
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no

nocturne flax
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impossible for you to not be prepare

velvet linden
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what if you don’t have enough mines to mine the birther

deft kiln
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No

nocturne flax
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what if i just lover her platonicall

velvet linden
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that’s why you always take 2 mines

deft kiln
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C foam not looking good now is it

nocturne flax
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permafoaming its another

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rule to have fun its if your gonna permafoam you should sacrifice

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a granade or a tripmine

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because they actually have value

deft kiln
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Good house rule

narrow gulch
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have the person who never takes foam do the permafoam

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(all your tool disappears)

deft kiln
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If I want to perma foam I need to down my teammates before they down me

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During alarm

nocturne flax
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so you can foam the door with the launcher once but then if you want to have door foam then you sacrifice the granade

deft kiln
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All hands are lose once the team scan is done

nocturne flax
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gonna have MW2 quickscope

deft kiln
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I am not allowed to use foam every since the incident

true hamlet
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anyone notice this image they put on the steam page?
R8A3 confirmed?

GTFO_2304_ALT-R4_All-Expeditions_Steam_v2.jpg
lyric gulch
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Seems so, looks like no ALT R7 either

real moss
coarse berry
jaunty tulip
toxic oriole
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looking forward for it

atomic escarp
hidden crater
half hornet
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can someone explain to me how the fuck are you supposed to do R4C3 PE?

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i mean you can't contend with x4 chargers in melee so the only option is shooting them

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but if you do that - then you're out of ammo in no time

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and then they have the GOAL placing more charger alarms, big chargers, scouts, the full entourage... The only thing that's missing are the shadows.

real moss
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You'll have to move fast and shoot basically

half hornet
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last squad made the most progress - opened main, found the key, even got inside...

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woke up every scout of course

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and we just ran out of ammo and got swarmed

real moss
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the level is certainly up there but there is enough ammo

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R4C3PE is harder than D1 and D2 imo

half hornet
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this is too much work and a waste of time... i think i might give up on the OVL / PE, its too unfun

real moss
half hornet
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well, what i need is a carry who knows where to go, what to do, moves like a robot... maybe he could do it

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but people don't seem to like that level, for obvious reasons

real moss
real moss
tough atlas
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If it makes you feel any better, barring R4E1 Extreme, it's the level I died the most before finishing it. I think it took like 5 tries and we really got the clear while we were all at 0% ammo or near that

half hornet
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yeah, secondary is a little bit too long

tough atlas
half hornet
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well the inner shadow alarm scan was excessive in my opinion

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just cut that part out and it'll be alright

tough atlas
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Also, I'd suggest to just shoot every Scout in Main after you start charger error

half hornet
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that seems to be the only option, yeah

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there's just no time to do stealth

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with 4 fucking chargers

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why 4?!

tough atlas
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You can resist the Big Chargers in the big room by going to the small plateu just before the main bulkhead door

half hornet
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just 2 would be enough, but not - its an entire squad

prisma zodiac
prisma zodiac
half hornet
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it becomes hard when ammo hits 0%

prisma zodiac
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then dont go 0% ammo

half hornet
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which it does concerningly quick

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fuckers are a little too tanky for my taste

prisma zodiac
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get guns good vs the enemies

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hel rifle fucks

tough atlas
half hornet
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with each day i miss the 30 dmg high cal more and more...

primal patio
half hornet
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do i have any special boosters...

primal patio
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you can ignore the class 6 shadow alarm

prisma zodiac
half hornet
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former is alright - albeit ammo goes out in like 3 waves

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latter... i already mentioned my XCOM tendencies with that thing

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although with how many of them there are sometimes

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what's the effective range of hel rifle? when does it stop dealing full 30 damage?

primal patio
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in r4c3 you will hardly meet range dmg drop from hel rifle

half hornet
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well, i do remember it failing to kill a striker on that one reactor map

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so clearly its there

primal patio
half hornet
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and its clearly shorter than i would expect from this gauss-looking thing

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i was solo

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i see the guy stagger, but not die

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one of those reactor corridors, the one with catwalks on each side

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from one door to the other

primal patio
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idk, in my games they die at long range

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r4c3 have small rooms mostly, thats why you hardly meet range dmg drop

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make a line, pew, -3

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easy

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wave spawns every 45 sec, you have lots of time for stuff

half hornet
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doesn't feel like 45... but could be worse i suppose

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do they stack?

primal patio
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alarms?

half hornet
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as in: does 90 seconds spawns all 8 or does one wave block another?

primal patio
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90(45-4,45-4) will spawn 8, but you definitely will kill 4 after 45 sec

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its not incremental

winter wharf
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Not quite sure what the question is, but the wave doesn't ramp over time

primal patio
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but extraction alarm will stack with error

half hornet
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of course it will

primal patio
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only r2e1 have incremental error alarm as i know

half hornet
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alright i'll move on to D1 for now

primal patio
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try to be quick, focus mostly on ammopacks, save important doors(main bulk door def needs it), dont go to dry rooms/zones(if no res, key items etc) and dont try stealth clear zones after main bulk door(just pull, if can, quick shoot/melee scout)

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in main big room one can def back and 3 secure res/key

velvet flower
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The fog turbine zone can still be stealthed

primal patio
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RNGessus...dont like players

velvet flower
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Just had to make decision fast, if you think it's easy to get the turbine and leave, do it. If you think it's better to shoot the scout and pull, call it out then do it fast. I have like 50-50 when my runs end up clear or stealth the zone.

winter wharf
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It really does depend

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I've had a run where I got turbine in 10 seconds or something, and just immediately left

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There are resources in there if you end up pulling the room at least

half hornet
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thanks game

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spawning an entire reactor wave right under my ass

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that was very cool

real moss
half hornet
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was trying to find the terminal with the code

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didn't even catch a glimpse

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the game has 3 fucking other routes to spawn them in

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like, it didn't even try to spawn them 2 rooms away from me, it was literally either next room to me or the one i'm in

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caught me completely off-guard

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that was exceptionally cheap

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the other guy was in the reactor room so he couldnt help

real moss
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honestly code timers are on generous side on R4D1

tough atlas
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but I never cared to check tbh

real moss
half hornet
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god what a worthless day

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not a single mission is beaten

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bots cant fight mothers to save their lives

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for what its worth neither do i

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do you fight them same way you fight tanks? i couldnt get a good angle

hexed vapor
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Moms you typically want hide completely from and then rush as a group.

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Some people kill babies, some people kill mom.

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If done properly, people will take very little damage from babies, and you'll get a very large amount of damage off (preferably killing her) during the birth phase.

half hornet
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so

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wait it out, bait it into coming close, mag dump her ass during birth (great sentence out of context), win the day

real moss
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One player with veruta is enough to negate birth

half hornet
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now only if i had something that wasn't hell rifle 😔

real moss
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There should also be some foam nades and mines in main

winter wharf
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yeah I don't think hel rifle is the greatest for mother killing, but oh well

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as long as you can keep the babies down, you won't die to mother

half hornet
real moss
kind swan
chrome rivet
half hornet
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oh boy is that another wasted 2 hours

wide lion
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why i can`t invite to lobbyes

half hornet
half hornet
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another day, another wipe

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and that's 8 hours wasted

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Dammit, why do i even care? There's no cosmetics or anything.

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im just loosing precious time

pliant pasture
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waht

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8 hours doing what

half hornet
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playing this game, obviously

pliant pasture
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what level

fallow wasp
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R5C2PE

half hornet
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Tried R4-C3-PE twice - wipes.
Tried R4-D1+SEC twice - wipes.
Tried R4-D2-PE twice - wipes. This one hurt in particular - we fucked up in the literal last second and started the extraction alarm (without knowing) with overload objective chilling and waiting to be picked up. Then we couldn't decide what to do and got eaten in the extraction room by the tank and chargers tag-team.

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I'm playing the whole day since i woke up to get ANYTHING done and there's 0 progress. I hate when there's 0 progress.

pliant pasture
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that is a rough day man, ya getting wiped back to back can be back breaking

fallow wasp
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You doing it with friends or randoms?

half hornet
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Randoms of course, i don't have friends.

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The last squad was pretty good but that one unfortunate mistake cost us everything

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Even my PC is tired

kind swan
fallow wasp
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Sometimes it’s good be be picky with teammates

half hornet
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Same situation as dating here - i'll waste more time by finding the perfect squad, then just taking what LFG giveth and hoping that i roll a natural 20

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secondary objectives are fine

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its fucking overloads and - by extension - PEs that make this an absolute hell

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I keep asking myself - do i really care?

fallow wasp
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When I ask for groups on a tough level I usually just request that people who join don’t suck at the game

half hornet
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I know my limit. Take what you can and move on.

fallow wasp
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I have beaten every level up to R4C3 so far , which ended last time by reaching the extract scan, getting it to 70%, and then getting run over by chargers we didn’t have the ammo to kill

pliant pasture
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honestly, don't commit every run to PE, only suggest it if you are confident in your team

half hornet
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Yeah, that's exactly how it goes for everyone else

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Ammo hits 0 - game over

fallow wasp
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I think a good strategy for waves 3 and 4 of D1 is to hold in the last 2 rooms before the zone with the ton of scouts

half hornet
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that wasn't the problem

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it was me, 1 guy and 2 bots

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we did the reactor amazingly

fallow wasp
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This is fair

half hornet
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first time we wiped because we couldn't find the last door and on my way back i got hit with a surprise wave right under my nose

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I got eaten together with BioBishop and of course there was no way the guy and Hackett could fight off an entire 4/4 reactor wave by themselves.

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2nd time we made it to secondary and... Bots are not great against mothers. We killed the first lonely one, but couldn't put a dent into the sisters.

fallow wasp
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Mothers are usually one of the only enemies teams will go far out of their way to avoid fighting

daring pilot
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I like fighting tanks bc they fun

fallow wasp
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Tanks are way more fun

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Mothers are either
Foamed and killed
Deleted instantly with shotguns
Hellish scramble in the fog chasing after her

half hornet
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Yeah and unfortunately former is not an option

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At least i think so?... Not sure.

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The first one awoke by herself.

royal lichen
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moms are trivial if weakdoor ( 🙂 )

half hornet
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I don't know what's the deal with the twin sisters

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Maybe we could go around them?... Maybe they were sleeping?...

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The joys of a twitchy trigger and "GO GO GO, GET IT DONE" mentality

red brook
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My holy weapon (7 deployed mines) vs the demons (tank)

half hornet
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funny you say that

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i keep seeing people trying to do that in R4C3

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and it hasn't worked once

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i don't think they put a single dent into the guy

fallow wasp
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I myself have heard mines do nothing to a tank unless they’re enough to instantly kill him

half hornet
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i can believe that

fallow wasp
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I do remember in R5C2 I used like 8 mines with 50% mine damage and the tank just ran forward and tripped

half hornet
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hm

fallow wasp
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Dropped dead

half hornet
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i do have a couple of those

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then again, what does it matter...

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the tank is not the problem

fallow wasp
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Can’t guarantee it’ll work but it’s worth trying

half hornet
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the fucking x4 charger error is

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I... I probably should abandon the PE project. Get some secondaries done and call it a day.

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I'm currently in "beat this content drop to move on to something else" phase. Never fun with that one.

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Have i mentioned how i gave myself Hollow Knight PTSD by "grinding" the final DLC for hours and staying up all night?

pliant pasture
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oh buddy

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you gotta go take a walk, get some air and listen to some nice music

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no video game is worth that punishment

unique gazelle
winter wharf
royal lichen
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we opened second door and ran a long way to a weakdoor, worked again.. dem mommas are fast chicks, always arrive first

half hornet
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dafaq is weakdoor

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some kind of an exploit, i asume?

winter wharf
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a regular door

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not a sector door, not a bulkhead door, a door that can be broken

daring pilot
winter wharf
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I'd assume anyway

daring pilot
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yes

royal lichen
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mom bangs once, open it, foam paused mom, kill

daring pilot
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It’s just a door

unique gazelle
# half hornet the fucking x4 charger error is

The charger error itself is easily manageable until you opened the main bulkhead zone which then it can be a bit of a nuisance if you keep getting forward spawns when the front team is trying to retrieve the key in zones with BBC and charges then an error wave spawns on them

winter wharf
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if you really want, you can sit outside of bulkhead door, let the regular enemies come, and then decide what to do from there

deft kiln
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Especially if you don’t have the game speed

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Some of these levels could take 3+ hours unless you just go

frail horizon
deft kiln
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It needs to hit the tumour

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Not the body of the tank to do dmg

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So what you want to do is get the tank to sprint through the mines

daring pilot
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Put the mine on top of the tumor

deft kiln
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Your right

frail horizon
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so if you put it on top of the door

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is the delay enough

deft kiln
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No you need them to sprint through

obtuse surge
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MINING THE TANK IS CHEESE

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NOT ALLOWED

deft kiln
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True

obtuse surge
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1 MINE PER DOOR IS ALLOWED

deft kiln
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No c foam

daring pilot
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2 mines

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:3

deft kiln
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No more than one turret and you have to place it in the room where the scan is taking place

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All doors must be closed

daring pilot
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I’ll do 2 mines on blood doors, recently have been sticking one towards the door if I can

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FUNNEL

deft kiln
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No funneling

daring pilot
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NOOOO

deft kiln
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If you leave the scan room it is an auto wipe

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No kiting

daring pilot
astral ferry
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how do i kite

frail horizon
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i like to put my mines on blood doors like this

daring pilot
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You wait for a windy day

deft kiln
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If you reload cancel you have to do the reload again

frail horizon
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hang on let me grab my storyboard

obtuse surge
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make a mod that kills you if you leave the scan room

daring pilot
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If u permafoam the foam explodes

deft kiln
daring pilot
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Isn’t that a mod already?

deft kiln
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Only if you die

frail horizon
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pardon my hand tremors

Screenshot_20230513-171221.png
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oh did we move on from that

deft kiln
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Why do you mine it like that

daring pilot
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X marks the spot ig?

deft kiln
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I only want to kill the giants on the right side of the door

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The left side are my homies

frail horizon
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i have never learned whether mines blow in a line or a radius

daring pilot
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Yes

deft kiln
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It is like a circle around a line

#

A cylinder if you will

daring pilot
#

Yeah a parabolic cone iirc

#

Wait

#

It’s bullet shaped

deft kiln
#

Is it

daring pilot
#

🤯

#

maybe?

deft kiln
#

I thought it was just a cylinder

daring pilot
#

Idk i could be on something

#

Ask somebody who knows XD

#

Idk i never stand close enough to find out

frail horizon
#

regardless

#

it works

deft kiln
#

Why not just stack the mine

#

Why risk the flap blocking the blow

frail horizon
#

because it doesn't

deft kiln
#

It can!

#

Besides deep mines are still better

frail horizon
#

ok I'll consider

obtuse surge
#

what if my cylinder got stuck in another cylinder

deft kiln
obtuse surge
#

WHAT

deft kiln
#

So they get unstuck

frail horizon
#

some cylinders can't be cut

pliant pasture
half hornet
#

Alright, round 2.

#

Lets see if i can get a single fucking clear until night-night

pliant pasture
#

gl gl

real moss
half hornet
#

NO.

#

I might sacrifice bullpup, but you wont catch me dead with helrev or veruta.

real moss
pliant pasture
#

oh

#

ig using one of the guns in the top half of quality is also cheese

half hornet
#

nah, only the golden boys

frail horizon
#

i dont care if its meta

#

im playing hel revo because its fun

obtuse surge
#

you are allowed 1 hel revolver per lobby

pliant pasture
#

no duplicates in loadouts would be great if we got the old hammers back

daring pilot
#

I want a bat that’s colored like a candy cane

#

Or a pinecone

pliant pasture
#

i want a butter knife knife

velvet linden
#

Also which guns are the golden boys

half hornet
#

aaaaand another wiperonus

#

another hour down the drain

#

1 mistake. all it takes is 1 mistake.

#

Opened the door before clearing the final wave, so got pincered between half-a-wave of chargers, and then the room upfront, including a scout who got triggered of course

#

one wrong call and it all goes down the drain

#

100% ammo, 100% HP, 100% tool... means fucking nothing against chargers

#

I guess that's their point, right? You can't recover from making mistakes around them as much as you do against smalls. Smalls just casually get deleted, but chargers... Especially big one. Just straight "fuck you".

velvet linden
#

Hel revo means something against chargers

nocturne flax
winter wharf
#

im gonna be honest

#

im not quite sure how you got into the final room with half a wave of chargers given you'd have a class 5 alarm to stall out so the waves can get to you

#

but I'm also more than happy to hop in and run, need to reclaim my completion and all that

#

but yeah if anything will end the run, it's final room

#

well, final code zone with like 20 chargers and 5 scouts

half hornet
#

Uhm... That was R4C3.

#

You're thinking of D1.

winter wharf
#

oh

#

yeah

#

C3 is funny like that ig

half hornet
#

im sick of these levels already

velvet linden
#

try veruta

half hornet
#

Host crashed, level restarted

#

What a day.

#

I woke up at 14:30, accounted for morning coffe i've been playing since 15:PM, its currently 3:AM and... Nothing got done. Nada.

#

I'm so sick of chargers, can we please never have them as enemy ever again? ... Yeah, right.

errant vigil
#

You're not going to like R5

fallow wasp
#

chargers are pretty violent

#

I think I will play some gtfo tonight

velvet linden
fallow wasp
#

I wonder if I should play R4C2, R4C3, or R4D1

daring prawn
#

Skip to e1 immediately

wide lion
#
  • llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllu89,.
fallow wasp
#

Damn E1 secondary is absolutely lethal

#

Okay so my description was automodded

#

But I ended up swapping to my gun instead of my hammer and shooting a lock instead of hammering it for the mother room

#

And the next try we got substantially further through gruelling rating power only to get finally run over by a shitload of shadow scouts

fair bramble
prisma zodiac
hidden crater
#

Why is hel rifle good against chargers btw

#

Do they line up more often or something?

nocturne flax
#

1 shot in long ranges

#

if they line up its great

#

1 shot = many kills

hidden crater
#

Ah

lyric gulch
marsh tinsel
#

when r5

west crow
half hornet
#

Alright, finally some progress.

#

C3secondary and D1 secondary

#

I'll take it, that overload is omega cringe

#

Frankly i'm baffled. C3 should've been a D level. Giant chargers do not belong in a C level. Not that many of them that is - you can throw in like 1 as a mini boss, but fucking 5 of them? In a room with a scout? While an error alarm pushes your shit? Frankly that's a whole lot of malarkey.

prisma zodiac
half hornet
#

And not just an error alarm. A charger error alarm.

prisma zodiac
#

also why are 5 bbcs that bad? just shoot scout and then them

#

pen them with a hel rifle

#

and some cover fire

half hornet
#

Like swap those 4 chargers for... I don't know, 4 biters, 4 shooters - and it'd a lot more reasonable

prisma zodiac
#

level is hard, but thats what everyone kept saying back when alt r4 wasnt out

#

4 strikers or shooters are a meme lol

#

youd just melee them

#

like you do on r4b2

half hornet
#

At least its fair considering all the rest

prisma zodiac
#

the rest isnt that bad at all

half hornet
#

Something should've been downgraded - either the rooms or the error

prisma zodiac
#

no?

half hornet
#

Both of them the way they are? Utter bullshit. I'm not doing that.

prisma zodiac
#

the level is good as it is with the main part

#

the only real pain is extreme taking long

#

my dude, its a C tier PE

half hornet
#

That too

prisma zodiac
#

its not a normal C tier

half hornet
#

Grinding through the sludge of the secondary to get mowed down by the BS overload is just raw misery

prisma zodiac
#

its rly not that bad

#

i mean you are playing pubs and intentionally using weaker guns

half hornet
#

It is exactly that bad. Everyone i met do not hold that level in high regard and everyone says the same thing: "run out of ammo, died".
One guy wiped with 80% into the extraction scan, apparently. Poor fella.

winter wharf
#

It's fine as long as you are

prisma zodiac
#

i mean yea? if you run out of ammo you die

#

then the play is. do not run out of ammo

#

either by going quick

#

by avoiding waking stuff up

#

or by shooting very efficiently

winter wharf
#

Like, save ammo for extract and you should be fine as long as you move at a reasonable pace and don't get overwhelmed by enemies

prisma zodiac
#

mix those and BAM ya got an easy winning formula

prisma zodiac
#

its rly not that rough otherwise

winter wharf
#

These feelings towards C3 make me want to try and grab hani and friends and do the mission again

prisma zodiac
#

honestly

#

could be fun

#

btw only part i rly hate about the level is chargers spawning silently

half hornet
#

also spitters

#

they just had to add them in, didn't they

#

i even got downed by one once

#

fucking cringe

prisma zodiac
#

i hate spitters as much as the next person

#

but they rly arent that bad in this level

astral ferry
#

spitters are the least of your worries 😔

winter wharf
#

Most annoying thing about the spitters is them giving you infection during error part, but they're pretty inconsequential

#

Like you're probably not gonna be at 100 hp anyway

half hornet
#

That much is true. But still... Its just extra inconvenience on top of everything else. That level pretty much got it all, really.

#

The only thing its missing is charger scouts to REALLY fuck with ya.

deft kiln
#

That and fall damage

prisma zodiac
#

honestly, was kinda hoping they would add one into the bbcs room

winter wharf
#

The mission was probably hard enough without them

half hornet
#

it absolutely is

winter wharf
#

And turning some alarms into chargers only, eh whatever

half hornet
#

Its probably my most hated level since R2E1 at this point

winter wharf
#

No need for shadow scouts at that point

daring pilot
#

mmm but they funni tho

#

Spitters

winter wharf
#

Having done the mission duo in the old r4 gave me peace with that mission, its not too bad

#

Fucked up so many times and still recovered

daring pilot
#

i’ve always thought spitters are one of the funniest things in this game, probably bc I play with a static that break down laughing whenever we hear one go off

half hornet
#

one guy yesterday kept breaking into swearing in bosnian whenever one would spit at him

winter wharf
half hornet
#

It was funny first 2 times, but then i just synchronised with his rage and it stopped being fun

daring pilot
#

I think the punch is super disorienting

open pier
deft kiln
velvet linden
#

help im using ammo inefficient guns and running out of ammo, what do i do?

astral ferry
#

just put on provision boosters lol

#

game is literally balanced around boosters

velvet linden
#

i dont have any

winter wharf
#

Farm boosters

#

Or use modded boosters if you want people to hate you

wary olive
#

Post "LF1 MUST HAVE PROVISIONS" and make him play resource mule

velvet linden
#

can i trade for boosters

fallow wasp
#

I am gonna need some madness made flesh later tonight for E1

#

The amount of times the wave had to restart made me feel horrible while I was looking for codes

#

But this time I know the terminal locations

tough atlas
#

tank fight is "bad" only if the team REALLY has no idea how to fight a tank and side zones looked relatively fine as along as people didnt try to stealth them too much.

untold anvil
tough atlas
#

Second hard step I had with groups failing (only in OG tbh) was alarm for fog turb

#

and yes, third hard step was extraction but mainly because it's long and you might not have much ammo

#

TBH yeah, front spawn for key zone would be a wrench in the plan for sure

#

To be fair I still think R4C3 PE is probably harder than doing, say R4D1 Extreme, where the only place you could get wiped at is the last zone of Main especially since timers are very generous (dont remember how it was in OG)

#

Thinking about it a bit more, R4C3PE has you do a lot of stuff with an error alarm going while R4D2PE merely has you going around with a cargo and shadow error, it's a long way but it doesn't require you to do alarms or anything

prisma zodiac
#

tbf, people avoid doing r4d2 the „hard“ way a lot

#

try picking up cargo right after having done extreme

tough atlas
#

Like, R7D1 allowed you to do basically the same but with snatcher error before they "fixed" it

prisma zodiac
#

also imo the bbc pulling is only rly hard if your team gets scared

#

if somebody thinks they will die and stops shooting is easily starts a chain reaction

#

leading to bbcs in the team

tough atlas
#

Main issue I had was more about people thinking they could "stealth" it

#

While perhaps it's simply safer and faster to just go shot the scout and wake the room up

#

After all I've no idea how you would go about stealthing that room?

#

Sure you can bonk scout but I guess you'd need 2 guys on error wave of chargers and 2 stealth-killing BBCs? Is that even possible? I rarely dealt with BBCs silently without a full team

nocturne flax
half hornet
tough atlas
half hornet
#

I stealthed it conventionally without the overload and it took a loooong time.

tough atlas
#

I PE'd that twice and I dont remember many aside from Error of Main and the last waves of Overload

half hornet
#

And then we still decided to just bait the room and shoot them. I only took out the scout and backstabbed some chargers on the way back. We were not risking getting punched into the floor by bbc (some of them were disgustingly close to each other).

#

Again: why the fuck are there 5 of them?

#

I understand 2. I understand 3.
FIVE.

#

Gee, i fucking wonder where all the ammo goes

tough atlas
#

You know Artek, I believe that if a team "trains" a bit on Overload+Main and skips Extreme for a bit they'd improve their chances a lot

nocturne flax
half hornet
#

Yes

nocturne flax
#

shoot scout pull back

half hornet
#

That is how people do it, yes.

nocturne flax
#

you can "stealth" it too if the two people defending dont have an issue

half hornet
#

For what its worth i never reached the ammo crisis part. The wipes always happen sooner.

#

I had 2 squads wipe at the very end of that room's alarm scan.

#

The scan is done, but just can't hold off the army of chargers and get overrun.

prisma zodiac
#

overload adds charger error, extreme lowers fog

half hornet
#

And the furthest attempt wiped because the guy opened the door leading to the final turbine room while the final charger wave was still coming (he didn't realise that was the case).

#

So we got sandwiched between the final charger wave and whoever was inside the turbine room.

prisma zodiac
half hornet
#

Needless to say - turned into a fine red mist.

nocturne flax
tough atlas
# prisma zodiac you mean extreme + main?

No I mean that if a team tried to do Main+Overload until they get the hang of it they'd improve their PE chances, since Extreme is just a loss of time anyway apart from making fog less of an issue

prisma zodiac
#

the fog is a huge annoyance tho if you play with overload error lol

half hornet
#

Maybe i could do it if i'd give it just one more attempt... But i'm so fucking sick of that level already. No fun is being had, its just grind.

nocturne flax
#

r5b1 didnt do jack shit to fog

#

extreme

prisma zodiac
#

id probably just practice PE, main only or extreme/main to get a feel of the zones if i didnt know it

prisma zodiac
nocturne flax
#

ooohhh

tough atlas
prisma zodiac
half hornet
#

Also why the fuck the final room has bbcs as well?!

nocturne flax
#

big chargers convo made me think of r5b1

prisma zodiac
#

susge i sense a pattern

nocturne flax
fallow wasp
prisma zodiac
#

otherwise ya just shoot n run

tough atlas
#

Doesn't fog turb room in R4C3 has like 2 BBCs or something?

#

I remember it being pretty dry of enemies apart from Scout

nocturne flax
#

its a small amount of enemies but that room tries to capitalize on your mistake of maybe opening the door too soon so it triggers the scout

prisma zodiac
#

honestly if r4c3 extreme exchanged a harder alarm for 1 less zone of stealth d4rkevGasm

tough atlas
#

I dont feel that the alarm to get to HSU adds anything for example

#

I'd just put HSU in the first zone and trim the map around a bit

#

I think Artek (and also other people that hate that map, I dont really like it either) are more frustrated by having to redo Extreme and the whole preamble for the sixteenth time rather than "map too hard please nerf"

half hornet
#

The secondary deeper fog caves are completely rudementary

tough atlas
#

Sure, map longer=map harder but I believe at some point it really gets into the way. Like how noone really liked doing R5B1 Extreme

half hornet
#

My first thought upon finding that shadow alarm door was "okay, this is just being indulgent"

tough atlas
#

But that probably gets into the territory of me not being really a fan of how the game has some sectors done

obtuse surge
#

the zone is so much worse in alt

half hornet
#

Like come the fuck on, just put a cell there instead of that door and save me 25 minutes of hassle

nocturne flax
#

r4c3 aint that long its just that people dont know how to deal with errors

obtuse surge
#

dragon and i walking around in R4C3 overload LOOKING FOR THE FUCKING DOOR

astral ferry
#

just ping the door 4head

half hornet
#

I played that level like 5 times by now and i still get lost immediately

nocturne flax
half hornet
#

Oh god, i'm getting sick just thinking about it

obtuse surge
#

WRONG DOOR

half hornet
#

You know what? I'm gonna say it.

#

C3 could use a checkpoint.

nocturne flax
#

GWET OUT

#

leave the room

half hornet
#

Maybe on the main bulk door. Perfectly in the middle.

#

Keep wiping to your heart's content.

prisma zodiac
prisma zodiac
half hornet
prisma zodiac
#

more interesting and quicker

half hornet
#

or that

#

not 100m long caves systems filled with shadows

#

That secondary overstayed its welcome by about 10 minutes.

velvet linden
#

have you tried winning?

half hornet
#

hold up, there has to a be a -winmission command somewhere in this console, i'm sure...

#

...does this game even has a console?... whatever

velvet linden
#

hop on alpha build

nocturne flax
#

its deactivated on build

velvet linden
#

revive

nocturne flax
#

for obvious reason

velvet linden
#

ammo

#

revive

#

ammo

#

revive

#

revive

#

ammo

nocturne flax
#

cinematiccamera 1

half hornet
#

wait

#

what's that last one

#

what does it do

nocturne flax
#

how do you think they do there trailers

half hornet
#

cool

velvet linden
#

are they hand drawn

nocturne flax
#

it would be extremely awesome of them to just enable it so people can make vids

half hornet
#

oh btw

#

i found the eric chapman log

velvet linden
#

hey me too

half hornet
#

That shit's canon. I can't believe it.

velvet linden
#

we have so much in common

nocturne flax
velvet linden
#

damn we should all be best friends

solemn wigeon
#

no

nocturne flax
#

we should bring artek so he can finally win r4c3

velvet linden
#

artek, hop on c3

half hornet
#

and it does not, in fact, have a sender/receiver

#

wtf...

#

someone was really bored in the writing room that night

velvet linden
#

devs writing the eric chapman log

half hornet
#

why did they do it

velvet linden
#

its important for the lore

nocturne flax
half hornet
#

it really isn't

velvet linden
#

it is

half hornet
#

it means nothing

velvet linden
#

I am the lore master

half hornet
#

Its literally the most autistic log in the game. I guess that is the point of it, but... b-but...

#

I'm baffled. These final levels are already making me insane and then they throw that in there for a good measure. These devs are monsters.

velvet linden
#

would you say that they are R7C1 monster

half hornet
#

I'm gonna be honest - for a whole minute there i was wondering if someone in the group was modded and brought that log into existence or that you hacked it into the game somehow. Just the maximum amounts of copium before it hit me: "Oh god. That's the actual log."

velvet linden
#

please don't talk about modding in to official discord

prisma zodiac
pliant pasture
#

what level is the Chapman log on?

velvet linden
#

R4C4 (the C stands for Chapman)

winter wharf
#

Please send me the Chapman log, I need some good gossip I'm bored as fuck on the train

kind swan
half hornet
#

And that's another wipe.

#

Whole squad OHKO'd by a BBC in R4D2.

#

Don't know what we did wrong, exactly (moved too much?) but he just woke up and immediately chose violence and we were all below 40% so... Fun.

#

And that's all my bioscan boosters gone.

#

woooooooo

#

For what its worth - i don't think we had a chance. One guy dropped out mid game when secondary was already activated, so we wasted time searching for a replacement and as a result were at 60%+ infection across the board. There's no way we were making it out from the final surge scan.

frail horizon
#

what does bbc stand for again

nocturne flax
#

big black charger

half hornet
#

Big Boy Charger or Big Black Charger depending on which one you preffer.

frail horizon
#

why not just giant charger

half hornet
#

Eh. Locals infected me.

nocturne flax
#

I mean if your into it you can use big black co k

#

normal people will just call them big chargers normally

half hornet
#

Also there's a joke in there about British Broadcasting Corporation, but i can't make a good use of it at the moment.

frail horizon
#

british broadcast corporation

#

oh

#

same brainwave

deft knot
winter wharf
half hornet
#

It helps bypassing some surges with a single foamed door at the beginning, which is very healthy for ammo supply.

#

Hm. I still got a couple.

#

But without stacking what's the point... 15% is basically nothing.

#

Bazzilion sentry boosters, but sentries are not super useful on that one. Its all about violent foaming.

#

Could help at the final class 8 scan though... Hm.

nocturne flax
#

consider the next: discard booster

deft knot
#

if you want to make the most out of a booster I would recommend cfoam portion, it trivialises all the alarms in main(esp the class 6 and 7 where you can permafoam), and the PE extraction is a joke as well with it

half hornet
#

That does seem to be the 2nd best plan. Especially since i'm the one who's always on cfoaming duty. Only got like 1 weak booster though... But hey - better than nothing.

#

either that or i can stack like +100% sentry CPU speed, but sentry DPS is wasted on the surges that just keep respawning anyway

deft knot
#

foam/mine/shotgun sentry is the easy option with or without boosters

half hornet
#

that was the setup, yeah

#

And all it took is taking one too many steps around a big charger.

#

It took him less than 1 second to take us out.

deft knot
#

there's enough ammo in the level to justify shooting BBCs esp if you are foam/mining alarms. Takes 2 bullets from a chokemod to kill one

half hornet
#

Only 2? really?

#

From behind i assume?

#

Wasn't an option with this one, he had his back against the wall.

#

So we went from the front and... He just did what's in the name - charged forward.

#

It was like bowling, but we were the kegs.

coarse berry
half hornet
#

Alright, i'm going to sleep. Better luck next time (next weekend).

coarse berry
#

are you doing turbine?

#

on growth?

#

and is it PE?

coarse berry
#

oh wait the turbine room nvm

#

im thinking of the giant atrium area

raven flare
#

@reef talon ok so 5 basics, big striker shooter big shooter scout
shadow charger and Hybrid

glad river
#

is there a charger in r1?!

#

i mean for the alpha maybe sure

raven flare
#

r1c2 has choirger!

#

dont u remember kmsdk

glad river
#

no i don't qwq

#

i don't think it did

#

but im probably dumb

#

might not be in the alt rundown 1 tho

glass mirage
#

yes it is

frail horizon
#

it did

glass mirage
#

they're especially common from like z94 on

frail horizon
#

most memorable r1 level

glass mirage
#

but they're also in the first pdec zone - 91 i think?

frail horizon
#

i think 90

#

the single-area zone?

glass mirage
#

yeah the one that if you just keep going straight from drop you get to and it has pdecs

#

tbh the number doesn't really matter

frail horizon
#

well i just wanted to be more correct

reef talon
#

yeah

#

we were discussing the original number of enemies

#

from R1

#

Striker
Shooter
Big Striker
Big Shooter
Shadow
Scout
Hybrid
Charger

#

and talking about the fact it was only really 7 before the alt

hexed vapor
#

Hybrids weren't in R1, dat it tho.

reef talon
#

since hybrid got added to alt

#

yeah

wide lion
#

can`t invite in lobby

wide lion
livid heath
#

does picking up cargo in R4D2 cause error alarm until end of mission?

hexed vapor
#

Yes.

#

Open Overload first, complete its objective last.

ivory arch
#

I and a lot of others will advise to do it last before opening the last door for extraction.

orchid kindle
#

or just be a chad and beat the level with the error

half hornet
wide lion
#

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orchid kindle
toxic oriole
#

@wide lion restart pc

wide lion
#

and reinstall game)

unique gazelle
wide lion
#

he sit in hollow lobby.

#

he make only players, and i can`t invite

unique gazelle
#

Maybe post this in tech support chat instead of spamming in here

primal patio
#

too far from lobby, bugged lobby, bad sync...

tough atlas
#

In his defense, he did, 3 days ago

#

I just can't understand if his problem is not being able to JOIN a specific lobby or ANY lobby

#

or if he can't even HOST one

#

Point is that if Mods/VPN aren't at fault only thing left IMHO is something interfering with P2P

unique gazelle
wide lion
wide lion
tough atlas
#

If he can't even CREATE/HOST a lobby, then I think something is interfering with Steam's backend on his side

primal patio
#

maybe host just locked sockets

#

should be 'players only' or 'players and bots'

wide lion
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and now i can`t invite

tough atlas
orchid kindle
primal patio
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if you friend is hosting, why did you tried to invite him? he should invite then

wide lion
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and can`t inivte

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now infinity load

tough atlas
# wide lion

This happen when you try to join ANY lobby, right?

wide lion
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any

tough atlas
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Can you try hosting?

half hornet
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Are you using "invite" button, or are you using lobby ID code as everyone else?

wide lion
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I can host

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i see him

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and can`t inivte

primal patio
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try to start game with bots, load lvl and leave

wide lion
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one bot no drop

half hornet
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Weird.

wide lion
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and he not drop when i restart him

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drop.

half hornet
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Lmao

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I think it's because of the illegal weapon

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His special doesn't have an icon

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I think it's a weapon that had been removed or is modded.

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Try changing that.

wide lion
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now he drop

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i play without mods and hacks

half hornet
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His weapon is still wrong. It doesn't even visualise on screenshots.

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Try changing it just to make sure that's not the root of the issue.

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Give them all burst rifle + veruta, just to make sure.

wide lion
velvet flower
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You need to post the logs in tech support channel to figure out the reason of why connection is failed

wide lion
wide lion
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THEY IGNORE

velvet flower
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We won't have any clue by just looking at the syndrome

wide lion
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3 DAYS

velvet flower
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You need to "post logs"

real moss
velvet flower
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as well

wide lion
real moss
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that you have an issue

velvet flower
wide lion
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i reinstall game

velvet flower
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So you ruled out of corrupted game files, but that's it. Internet issue can be more complicated. VPN/ISP/firewall can all be possible causes.

half hornet
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Something is definetely broken, but we can't tell what otherwise.

wide lion
half hornet
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I suspect the weird broken weapon on Dauda.

wide lion
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i not sit with vpn and another

orchid kindle
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nah shit

wide lion
unique gazelle
wide lion
velvet flower
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If I can only make a blind guess, it's mostly VPN or one of your ISP have firewall that blocks the "unknown connection"

wide lion
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not him, i say, it was loading

wide lion
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and connection was normal

velvet flower
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Post the logs then, we can't hack into your computer and lookup for you

wide lion
velvet flower
wide lion
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where logs

winter wharf
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appdata > locallow > 10 chambers collective

iirc

primal patio
wide lion
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where?

primal patio
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all of this text files with gtfo.'date'

winter wharf
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it's timestamped, so all of the ones since you've been having problems should give information

wide lion
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what happens if i delete them
?

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or this only text

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no have bug or corrupt

primal patio
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you need to find present day in file name with time, when you met your problem. Logs- records what you did in game of certain time period(if be more correct, its what did game when you played)

half hornet
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Its logs. It does nothing - it's just recordings of what game was trying to do.

wide lion
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hmm

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it`s normal?

half hornet
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It should be, its just txt files

primal patio
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time to little rage...in his language

wide lion
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🙂

primal patio
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бля, тебе же сказали найди файл с временной меткой, когда ты проблему встретил, нахрена ты все файлы открываешь?

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там дураку понятно, как логи выглядеть будут

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там же в файлах точная дата, и даже время указано

wide lion
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а если не помню

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там какая-то отметка в тексте должна быть или как

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наверное числа с 12

primal patio
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ты бля издеваешься? не можешь сегодняшнюю дату найти? как ты можешь не помнить что было за последние 10 минут? я даже написал, как файл начинается

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gtfo. и после точки дата идет со временем

wide lion
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lr 'nj yt c ctujlyziytuj lyz

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это не с сегодняшнего дня

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это уже несколько дней

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в этом промежутке наверное

primal patio
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какое сегодня число?

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тебя 3 файла сверху не смущают?

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gtfo.2023.05.15...

wide lion
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ну то есть в сегодняшних файлах может быть та же ошибка?

primal patio
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тебе первые 2 нужны, которые оканчиваются на _Master и _Client... Какая та же ошибка, это запись того, что делала игра во время ее запуска/использования

wide lion
primal patio
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так а сюда ты зачем кинул, в тех поддержку кидай

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а там уже они разбираться будут

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@velvet flower he sent logs here, idk which file of this two do you(or who rules in it, never used tech support) need

velvet flower
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If he failed to invite other people, should be the one in MASTER.txt. BTW, it's better to also post the lost in the tech support thread.

wide lion
velvet flower
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11:27:00.092 - ERROR : STEAM > k_EP2PSessionErrorTimeout   4   The connection timed out because the target user didn't respond, perhaps they aren't calling AcceptP2PSessionWithUser. Corporate firewalls can also block this(NAT traversal is not firewall traversal), make sure that UDP ports 3478, 4379, and 4380 are open in an outbound direction.

Yeah...as expected, it's most likely the firewall issue. If he can't invite any other players, then it's his ISP or any network backbone of his region is blocking any unknown outbound packets

wide lion
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?

velvet flower
# wide lion they ignore)

Because your original thread is basically saying nothing, I'm sorry for your inconvenience and it sucks. However if you'd like to get help faster, you can try give some more descriptions of what happened to you or by simply following the instructions of #bug-reporting

wide lion
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I haven't changed anything since the bug started

velvet flower
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Anyway regarding your problem, it's likely nothing to do with GTFO. I personally will suggest you call your ISP customer service mentioning "network outbound packets seem blocked by firewalls"

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It doesn't have to be you changed anything

half hornet
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Yeah, I too assumed issues with provider. It's a rare occurance, but providers do stupid shit like that sometimes. Especially Russian ones - too much government interference.

wide lion
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