gtfo-spoiler-chat

[cold merlin]

so a minor W in spite of the whole 'less ammo'

[wary olive]

PR buff

[winter wharf]

finally, peace at last

PR reload faster but still takes over 3 seconds

[daring pilot]

also nobody talking ab how combat shotty has 69 ammo now 🙃

[winter wharf]

amazing

[daring pilot]

also the little QoL buffs to smg and pistol reloads are nice

like 1.5-1.4 for both

[cold merlin]

pistol is 1.3

[light lagoon]

Still feels like they could've been buffed a bit more but.

[daring pilot]

ah ok

it's nice to see that they're putting more effort into balancing the guns

with (mostly) positive results

i also REALLY like how they're trying to diffrentiate the Arbalest more from the Veruta

and omg har back to usable state

[languid raven]

is auto pistol good?

[wary olive]

if you are using it to stagger for team then yes

if you are spraying into waves trying to kill things then no

[daring pilot]

it's a supporting weapon

[hallow lark]

How was it insane? Is it just like stunning everything?

[hexed vapor]

It has a very potent mix of stuff you'd want from a Special.

Very economical, decent DPS, gives you the option to trade ammo for TTK, has a very high capacity altogether.

[obtuse surge]

the high firerate mg gonna get penetration soon

we're almost there

[hexed vapor]

Now you can also stagger large groups of enemies by just kind of hitting everything as the situation calls for.

[obtuse surge]

fireblade stay winning

[errant vigil]

Where's my 15 damage 3 pen revo, to become the precision weapon of all time

[hexed vapor]

To overcome the HEL Gun, you must become the HEL Gun.

[daring pilot]

yknow I can see know why the og gtfo had no reward system, it goes wrong once and people lose their minds

[coarse berry]

the gun changes were great but I wish the Bullpup got some love

[obtuse surge]

blackdragon alt

[knotty barn]

did they make R4A3 overload easier? I remember a lot more big boys and scouts in that floodgate wave :D. Also I remember then non stop spawning xD

we basically had 4 Hybrids and 4 big boys I think? Couldn't count them that well, they were blown apart by two extra spicy mines 😄

[errant vigil]

That sounds right

They stopped spawning too and only the 3 error remained

Mines just sucked in original R4

[knotty barn]

hmmm, ok maybe we just really sucked back then xD. End of R3 was my entry and we just blitzed the A levels on PE on a scouting run xD

[kind swan]

[knotty barn]

especially the 2 bioscanner, burst and auto turrent R4A2 PE run xD

though I was amazed by the auto turret, the stagger helped quite a lot in the error alarm 😄

[hexed vapor]

That is how it always was

[winter wharf]

yeah I don't think anything really changed, other than having better tools

functioning mines make blood doors a lot less threatening

[hexed vapor]

Burst cannon might be kinda brushable, actually?

It's just not very good or fun.

[nocturne flax]

copium

hella copium

[hexed vapor]

But I think you can brush despite recoil.

[nocturne flax]

slap a booster

[hexed vapor]

Booster gaming

Just as the devs intended.

[deft kiln]

If they didn’t want you to use a booste

They would have removed them

Like cosmetics

[hexed vapor]

I think BC might fit into a similar spot as DTR now, tho.

A lot of work for a pretty mediocre reward, but you're allowed to do it.

[nocturne flax]

or ya know

just remove the recoil

[hexed vapor]

I take what I'm given.

[deft kiln]

I am so glad combat shotgun isn’t the worst special I can’t wait for the r5 buff so it is usable

Thanks 10 cc

[atomic escarp]

anyone got full clear yet?

[daring pilot]

ik I saw a few

[atomic escarp]

ballin

rip cosmetics

xD

[daring pilot]

rip drip

[kind swan]

I love how my teammates were questioning where the enemies were until they looked at where I was shooting my autopistol

[daring pilot]

autopistol gaming

[kind swan]

was shooting at shadows

[daring pilot]

oh LMAO

[kind swan]

Teammate tagged 4 shadows

I was like. I AM THE AUTOSENTRY

But outside of the stagger/time

I hate how much it feels like machine pistol but does not have the damage

[honest lotus]

welcome to the club

guns go brrr

[deft kiln]

r5 res booster is a crime against the game

i love the funny players that run it!!!!!

[atomic escarp]

I have one but I'm never gonna use it

it's like a sacred relic

belongs in a museum

something like that

[wide lion]

2 key from 1 zone?

[atomic escarp]

just as god intended

@livid heath how different is E1? also easier/harder than og?

[livid heath]

havent done E1

[atomic escarp]

oh

shame

[livid heath]

But i HATE B2 C3 D2

[atomic escarp]

I remember D2 being nightmarish

[livid heath]

Same as D1

[atomic escarp]

is there still the funny cargo

[livid heath]

The funni cargo

pick up=shadow error alarm

[atomic escarp]

does it still change to chargers when u drop it

[livid heath]

secondary calls in chargers

[atomic escarp]

lol

fun!!

[livid heath]

main has a fuck ton of scouts and giants

[livid heath]

still better than doing D1

[atomic escarp]

whats D1 again

I dont remember it being very hard

[livid heath]

secondary first zone has 1 mother + 4 giants

next zone 3 mothers 1 giant

[atomic escarp]

nice

[wide lion]

normal

[livid heath]

reactor is a fucken nightmare

2-4 mins defense each tests and only got 4-6 mins for terminal codes till restart

Atleast R4B2 is fun tho

[narrow gulch]

There's like

Nothing in the code zones besides 4

[livid heath]

you can completly ingnore secondary and be done with it in 30s in the extract

no story tho

i thought youd meet schaffer

title sets called CONTACT for a reason man

[errant vigil]

Yes in E1 and his Morse code in b1

Don’t know if you hear it in B1 still tho

[livid heath]

Nope

im not familar with morse codes

But that tank on C1 tho

He just stands there

MENACINGLY

[prisma zodiac]

Burst cannon huge synergy with hel pp

stack up enemies with hel pp doing like 1-2 dmg to them at best

Burst cannon them down

[errant vigil]

E1 class 6 S scan zone is a lot more interesting

[wide lion]

simulator minecraft

[broken scarab]

Patch is out NOW!

[honest lotus]

[olive shoal]

Ayo

[honest lotus]

just a few hours

[lunar lynx]

maybe next time listen to your teammates and don't just run in alerting everything

[wide lion]

maybe next time you not dead on your plan 2 time)

and go to 295 for more ez

and go to blue, when it`s need

[lunar lynx]

how about this next time you LISTEN TO SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS AND WAIT FOR OTHERS

[honest lotus]

is that all?!?! thats just the average A1 starter room

[livid heath]

Going solo be like

[honest lotus]

XD

u can melee kill all those rooms

[kind swan]

Hero killer never shoots

Their heroism doesn't allow them to shoot

In turn they have the utmost strength in melee

[wide lion]

not like this map)

[wide lion]

my little kid, like a sleep)

version 2.0

[wide lion]

artifact sentry speed no work?

and my sentry no have faster attack

@left karma?

[atomic escarp]

issue skill

[wide lion]

no work

[half hornet]

Should work. Most notably on sniper and burst. But will do nothing for shotgun.

[wide lion]

i with sentry

[wide lion]

burst

[solemn wigeon]

@obtuse surge me in main, but overload unlocked lol

[wide lion]

maybe you are open over?

screen O

[pulsar zodiac]

just like original R4C1 with possible bulkhead scan overlap

[solemn wigeon]

I didn't know it was possible in original r4c1 as i discovered this yesterday

Just funny

[pulsar zodiac]

but R4C1 overlap arent as useful as D2

[solemn wigeon]

Fair

I'm just surprised the scan for main stayed after completing overload, i guess it's because i was still standing in main when overload finished

[pulsar zodiac]

If D2 BH scan overlap it will be like R7D1 pre-patch

[left karma]

It seems to work as expected when we tested internally. Noticeable difference with and without boosters.

[atomic escarp]

anyone made a write up of major differences yet?

[half hornet]

Mods?

[storm lake]

Question for you guys ; is your High-Cal also reloading 5 bullets instead of 6 since R4 dropped?

[wide lion]

i make all boosters on speed and he no shot fast.

[atomic escarp]

what?

[half hornet]

Mods. Mods could break something.

Is he host / client, etc.

[real moss]

R4A1 sec no longer double alarm?

[atomic escarp]

which is the level with like 20 uplink codes?

[storm lake]

Isn't it C1 extreme?

(R4)

[atomic escarp]

sextreme

[storm lake]

Still used to call secondary "extreme" haha
I miss the bulkhead doors spamming you

[winter wharf]

flavour text for r4a1 makes no sense now

there is not a big bulkhead door in that mission anymore

[cyan kiln]

Is lobby joining broken rn?

[atomic escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/kys-keep-yourself-safe-low-tier-god-gif-24664025

@astral ferry

voxy host an R4C1

[lavish wyvern]

so

did they add more NEW cosmetics?

or just old ones and reskins?

[half hornet]

Shrug

[real moss]

there's some new ones I guess

Can do the whole latex style

[balmy robin]

Nice !

[half hornet]

Alright, this sis the weekend of gtfo grind I suppose.

[kind swan]

How many times will I fail R4A1

[half hornet]

I'm just gonna shoot the rooms for speed see how far that'll get me

Quadro auto turrets here I come

[lavish wyvern]

I guess the ones shown in r7

The ones no one could get

[heavy siren]

I got some torsos I've never seen before

[real moss]

Doubt it. Have had every unlock R6 onwards

[heavy siren]

And a backpack

Cool stuff

[real moss]

Ah

meaby

[lavish wyvern]

How they look?

Could you send a screen shot?

[heavy siren]

Nah already in bed

[lavish wyvern]

K k

[atomic escarp]

Go to sleep iidot

[lavish wyvern]

Idot

[heavy siren]

I didn't take meds so it will take awhile

[atomic escarp]

Relatable

[heavy siren]

Pants with sneakers that go well with palettes

Sweater with stripes on it that go well with palettes, also similar sweater but with right shoulder shoulderplate for palette colour and black chest plate and left shoulderplate

Huge drip overall

Backpack is like bits of tech in the above part whereas below is the backpack material and the whole thing is connected with lines which are coloured with palette

[subtle vault]

No new helmets?

[daring pilot]

oh yeah the yeezy's

[heavy siren]

Dunno only cleared 4 lvls

The "new" helmet for all clears is tigris without the tigris

[daring pilot]

tbf there are a lot of helmets already

[atomic escarp]

is r4c1 sec supposed to be 1 terminal uplink? cuz it says external but gives code to you directly

[winter wharf]

yeah it's just the 1

the external part isn't talking about how you get the uplink IP

[atomic escarp]

i really was hoping for a charger 2 terminal uplink

12x1 is no fun

[real moss]

R4C1 sec is kinda snooze indeed

[atomic escarp]

r4a3 sec is less boring

[orchid magnet]

Hi guys I need help with R4B2. So we tried to go for PE blind and got fked by the fog. Basically we only put one cell in and then we couldn't see anything. Now I understand that it actually lowers the fog. We reached the overload objective (gather 6 OSIPs), but honestly the whole area it was almost impossible to see anything. We dealt with the 3 scouts in the big room, the class 4 alarm, the blood door, but eventually died after the blood door as we couldn't see a thing.
If you place all 4 cells does it make the overload zone have less fog? Should you put 0 cell in until you're done with overload so that you can see things? Basically is there a magic number to make overload easier? The rest of the mission was pretty easy other than that. Thanks in advance.

[pliant pasture]

so as with every other gen cluster i have seen in the game so far, when you finish it, it starts an alarm* so putting in the 4th is a bad idea before you finish OVL

and if i remember correctly, this level has reverse fog, so it is high not low. and putting in cells 'lowers' the fog. so you should put in 0 cells to keep the fog as far above you as possible as well

[daring pilot]

yeah

hold on lemme pull up the R4 spreadsheet

[orchid magnet]

OK, thanks for the explanations. Yes it does lower the fog. We noticed it massively when we put the first one, and then we put #2 and #3 but didn't see a big improvement so left it at 3 cells in. However I have trouble remembering whether overload zone was high or low, i.e. if you're better putting 0 cells or 3 for overload

[daring pilot]

wait

hold on

[orchid magnet]

For reminder there are 4 cells for the gen cluster

[daring pilot]

idk this is the old sheet

[orchid magnet]

And I believe there is indeed an alarm after 4th cell

[daring pilot]

I think you want to do ovl first?

could be dumb

[orchid magnet]

(also before it was 4 OSIP but now it seems to be 6)

I don't think you can do ovl first

AH also what the hell does secondary do?

[daring pilot]

lol

[orchid magnet]

Like we enter a command on the terminal

And it was done

Was it the fog? 😐

It took us like 1 minute to do secondary I think

And we didn't notice anything after the command

OK so anyway if someone can tell me whether is better for overload - 0 or 3 cells in (since 4 apparently triggers another error alarm?)

[daring pilot]

apparently overload is best done at 0 cells

this is an old sheet tho

[orchid magnet]

OK I hope it's the case because 3 cells was absolute hell

We couldn't even navigate around

Thanks, I'll try with 0 cells in next time

[glass mirage]

I went in with 3 cells just now

[light lagoon]

Pfffftttt,

[glass mirage]

It was definitely an adventure

[light lagoon]

best to just stick to the old classic strat of fuck around and find out.

[orchid magnet]

Did you pull through @glass mirage ?

[daring pilot]

Exactly

[glass mirage]

Yeah, first try and everything

[orchid magnet]

Nicely done

[glass mirage]

And I'm not even running a serious loadout

[orchid magnet]

No need to flex it 🥲

[hexed vapor]

Late reply but 0 cells.

[daring pilot]

u still running fucking spear

bruh

[glass mirage]

I'm out here with the spear, bullpup rifle and precision rifle (which becomes pretty useless with the fog)

[daring pilot]

thx ray

STILL

[glass mirage]

You thought I was only running spear?

[glass mirage]

I'm doing as much as I can get away with like this.

[fresh bronze]

hows r4 lookin thus far, i aint got to play it yet cus in the middle of finals week

[daring pilot]

aren't we all

[orchid magnet]

I'm discovering R4 and it's really great, really liking it so far.

A1, A2, A3, B1, B2 are great

[fresh bronze]

thats good ive been waiting for some content that wasnt to easy comparative to r7

[orchid magnet]

I think it's definitively harder though

But in a good way

[fresh bronze]

good thats def what i want in general

[daring pilot]

bruh just wait for R5 if you want hard

[orchid magnet]

Except the B2 fog

Is R5 hardest rundown?

[daring pilot]

widely considered to be

[glass mirage]

Wdym "except the B2 fog" just run around bumping into things until you find them

[fresh bronze]

i dont really care for shit being to hard i just want them to be challenging and a bit of a step up from what ive already done

[glass mirage]

As I was saying in vc, you gotta echolocate

[fresh bronze]

going from r7 to r1-3 was a bit boring

[daring pilot]

what I generally hear is that OG R4E1 is considered the hardest level while R5 is generally considered the hardest rundown

R6 was a lot easier in OG, I hope alt gets buffed so it can stand up to the other rundowns around it

[fresh bronze]

if r4 is as hard as people say i wonder if it will fit into progression when all the alt rundowns have been finished

sounds like the jump from r3 is pretty big

[orchid magnet]

R6 was so nice but I hope they make it a bit harder

R6C1 is so memorable, they should change the final room so that it's not a single door though

Like they could maybe add 3-4 spawn locations from within the last room

Just so that you can't just put 3 sentries facing the single door and let them do the whole work for like 70% of the scan

[deft kiln]

After completing r4

I can say it was the most borning thing I have done in gtfo

Unfo

[daring pilot]

uhhh tbh I think that's what made R6C1 managable

[astral ferry]

r6 > r4???

[daring pilot]

i think four entries would absolutely murder a lot of people

[deft kiln]

Yeah r6 is Better than r4

At least alt r4

[orchid magnet]

I'm guessing that R6C1's final room was supposed to be a big challenge but because of the game's mechanics it's so easy to cheese

[daring pilot]

nah not easy to cheese

R6C1 scan is a great experience

[orchid magnet]

Honestly even having just 2 sentries facing the main door will take care of like 60% of the enemies

[deft kiln]

Yup that is just sentries

[orchid magnet]

And it takes them so long to reach you

I think this moving scan should be like 100% harder

[daring pilot]

I think R6 as a whole had great level design, just suffered from being weaker overall compared to R4/5 due to it being the release rundown

[orchid magnet]

In the alt rundown at least

[daring pilot]

yes\

R6 needs to be harder

[orchid magnet]

But yeah harder R6 would be a banger the missions were great imo

[daring pilot]

especially with all the guns we have now

[light lagoon]

Honestly, and I realise this is just repeating a lot of complaints in the past,

just remove checkpoints from Alt R6.

[daring pilot]

honestly based

[deft kiln]

it would make the difficulty fine

[daring pilot]

I think there are a few that could stay

[light lagoon]

Then bump it up a bit more in places here and there that need it.

[daring pilot]

but like yeah most of them could go

[deft kiln]

Remove hel gun

[daring pilot]

wait

[deft kiln]

My big take

[light lagoon]

I don't remember enough about it to say but straight up the only checkpoint I can think they should keep is the one before Kraken on R6D1.

[fresh bronze]

honestly i feel removing them all is extreme but leaving a few is likely the awnser to difficulty in not only r6 but also r7

[orchid magnet]

Honestly I think checkpoints don't make missions harder, they just make it so you can retry more easily. But if something if too hard for you then checkpoint or not you're gonna get rekt. Although I agree that adding checkpoints does remove tension from the experience (hence making it harder... but not in a "good" way)

[daring pilot]

yeah

well not the only one

[cold merlin]

I once accidentally set off a scout during a checkpoint scan in R7B1 😅

[daring pilot]

I really liked the checkpoint on R6D3

[light lagoon]

It's the only one that comes to my mind but y'know, R6 Is a distant memory.

[cold merlin]

just before the checkpoint scan was complete

[orchid magnet]

mentions removing checkpoints

Several people are typing

[daring pilot]

thought it was great for reactor practice

[light lagoon]

[deft kiln]

Checkpointed r7d2 with a mono charger giant wave on us

[fresh bronze]

time to leave before some 2000 hour nerd starts saying well acktually

[deft kiln]

Was very fun

Thank you

For not nerding me

[astral ferry]

you're not at 2k hours yet 😡

[deft kiln]

I am catching up vox

You can stop me

[fresh bronze]

to hard to have that many hours because i need other people to play with and socializing is hard for my 🤡 ass

[pliant pasture]

damn, thats a hell of a shot. i am impressed

[orchid magnet]

Anyway I love GTFO and can't wait to see what's 10C's next project but I wish there were more games like it. It feels completely alone in its own category

[deft kiln]

This is the worst place

[fresh bronze]

and in a few minutes someone will compare it to payday 2

[deft kiln]

For that take

[orchid magnet]

Cooperative hardcore horror shooter

[pliant pasture]

ohhh the first not the second one, that makes more sense

[cold merlin]

no there was a scout in a nearby room that I just snuck past earlier who was close enough to the checkpoint scan to hear my misclick

[orchid magnet]

@fresh bronze Payday 2 is very nice but honestly except the sneak -> shoot thing for me the comparison stops here

[deft kiln]

Gtfo has its moments

[pliant pasture]

ya, sneaking past that scout is treacherous

[fresh bronze]

pretty much but for some damn reason gtfo is compared to payday 2 a lot

[deft kiln]

I wish they leaned into the melee and movement more instead of powering up tools and guns

[daring pilot]

nah the main comparision is always L4D2

[orchid magnet]

Payday 2 is a cooperative shooter with stealth/loud and it can get pretty hardcore so I can understand why people would compare the two

[cold merlin]

tbf a bunch of us only found out about and started giving a shit about GTFO in the first place was because ex-payday devs (such as Simon and Ulf)

[fresh bronze]

sneaking past scouts aint how big boys do it they just bonk em on the head to assert dominance

[light lagoon]

But like the reason I'd remove checkpoints is more because I feel they were added to help newbs (among other things) a lot to get to grips with the game and like, I am thankful for them as they actually made my team start playing more often since that tension was removed. But now most of the old rundowns are back without them and they're a good way to build up the experience you need now so I just don't think R6 Needs 'em anymore (besides Kraken, but even that I'm slightly hesitant on because I can picture pubbie teams checkpointing it repeatedly while having a terrible loadout to actually fight it with).

[daring pilot]

yeah, I feel like with the buildup from the old rundowns, checkpoints aren't really necessary anymore

[orchid magnet]

Yeah that was the big issue with R6D1 in my opinion, unless you had people with HEL Gun/Snipers it would make the Kraken so hard @light lagoon. They should probably add some hints to that in the mission screen because I know I got fked the first time trying it.

[deft kiln]

Or they just don’t make it a dmg at range thing

Thing

[light lagoon]

I actually don't mind that at all. Per an earlier comment, I like the "fuck around and find out" element.

[orchid magnet]

Also agree with @daring pilot, when you've done R4 and R5 I think you can do R6 and R7 with no checkpoint.

[light lagoon]

The problem is that some teams absolutely will retry, and retry, and retry again and again endlessly.

[fresh bronze]

imo checkpoints just need better placement and to be less common

[light lagoon]

Without recognising that "Hey, maybe you should just back out and mess with your loadout".

[orchid magnet]

Yes some people just refuse to go back to lobby lol

[fresh bronze]

putting a checkpoint right before a really hard part ruins the hard part

[deft kiln]

No

[light lagoon]

It's why in the past I've said checkpoints just need like a use limit.

[deft kiln]

What

[daring pilot]

the main thing I found checkpoints to be useful for is saving time in long levels after already beating a hard challenge. Take R6D3 checkpoint, was there after almost an hour of gameplay for the actual reactor. I think that one could stay

[orchid magnet]

Yeah I think a checkpoint should be a reward, it should be after a hard thing, not before it

And as others mentioned, quite rare

[daring pilot]

because you have to go through hell and back to get there as a newer player, and the checkpoint helped my crew to get a feel for the reactor (but we never actually beat it lol)

[deft kiln]

The checkpoint between levels are awful if you wipe on e1 you should have to restart

[daring pilot]

THIS

there are two checkpoints in R7A1, should be none

[orchid magnet]

The first checkpoint in R7A1 is ridiculous lol

[daring pilot]

if you can't beat A1 without checkpoints then you haven't grasped the mechanics

[fresh bronze]

like r7c3 i really feel like the checkpoint before the 20 minute error should just straight up be removed

[fresh bronze]

in fairness that level is stupid anyways

[fallow wasp]

I hate levels that are easy as piss until the last part and then all of a sudden massive skill check

[orchid magnet]

I feel like R7A1 is just a tutorial before this was a thing in-game

[cold merlin]

probably means that you don't have to sit through the Lore™️ to try again if you fuck up after it

[light lagoon]

Weird cuz they added the tutorial with R7 Didn't they?

[daring pilot]

the tutorial was added in with R7A1

💀

[deft kiln]

Checkpoints bad! Such a cool and unique take.

[orchid magnet]

Ah yes, my mistake. Thanks for the correction 💀

[astral ferry]

i mean we only have so many topics to talk about
weapon balance, 10cc competency, checkpoints

[daring pilot]

R6A1's checkpoint was better but I still disagree with checkpoints on an A level

honestly don't even think B tier needed them either

[fallow wasp]

Would it be cooler to have more unique hazards or more unique enemies?

[real moss]

it does not fit in progression as R2 overall is still a tad harder than R3

[light lagoon]

I mean the original topic was just that Alt: R6 Should be harder, I derailed it hard by bringing up the checkpoints.

[daring pilot]

lol

average checkpoint discussion

[fresh bronze]

imo i think they are a good thing, i just think they are overused. Having less on deeper levels and just less in general imo is straight up a better way of doing it

i dont really care about checkpoints in a and b tier levels since they aint that hard to begin with

but beyond that they do need better placement and just to be less common

[orchid magnet]

Honestly having worked in gamedev I can't say that 10C are incompetent. Sure there was the modding situation which was absolutely ridiculous (still is? Idk), but the game they managed to make is very impressive on a technical standpoint, especially for such a small team.

[light lagoon]

Tbf they exist more as comfort checkpoints for newer/inexperienced teams.

[daring pilot]

my take is that they should only exist after big challenges and in places that are hard to get without spending an hour and a half

[real moss]

which don't exist in the game

[daring pilot]

like I probably would've moved the R6D2 checkpoint to the secondary flyer scan door, i don't think R6D2 main needed one

pre nerf flyer door tho

:3

[real moss]

why they did you like that 😦

[fresh bronze]

imo i think the worst checkpoint in the game ive played is probably the on in r7c2 secondary as long as im thinking of the right level

really ruins the tension and placement of the secondary

[daring pilot]

imo it should've just not been there

[real moss]

bruh worst was R6D1

[fresh bronze]

you could finish the level or risk it for the secondary and with the checkpoint its no longer really a option

[orchid magnet]

What's R7C2 secondary again? I forgot @fresh bronze

[real moss]

5! checkpoints

[fresh bronze]

dont remember that long ago

[real moss]

1 hr level

[atomic escarp]

Hand holding simulator

[daring pilot]

there is like 30 minutes of playtime left max

yes R6D1 had so many

[fresh bronze]

i played very little of r6 so i dont remember shit of it

[daring pilot]

had 5

[orchid magnet]

The good thing about R6D1 is that you can finish it in less than 10 minutes

[real moss]

R7A1 ....... checkpoint, do class II .... checkpoint

[deft kiln]

The first checkpoint

[daring pilot]

yeah R7A1 is honestly the second worst offender for me

[fresh bronze]

but yeah my least fav checkpoint is r7c2 secondarys, literally no risk in doing the secondary for that one

[deft kiln]

Is fine

[atomic escarp]

R7a1 is fine imo

[pliant pasture]

mommy blood door + class 5 flyer alarm in Destination

[deft kiln]

Yeah really is

[fresh bronze]

if you fail you can just leave and finish the level

[deft kiln]

Great into level

[orchid magnet]

Ah yes thanks.

[real moss]

btw for R4B2PE just don't plug any cell. grab em all and place em on ground -> do ovl -> copme back and plug em all in at same time

[orchid magnet]

Thanks a lot for the answer 🙂

[real moss]

👍 we almost made the same mistake but then remembered from OG that it got down

[fresh bronze]

thanks i missed the message kek

[real moss]

and that ovl is lowest part

[pliant pasture]

a check point after the 4 full team scans before the first ever alarm in the game for the actual first level for new players is good

[atomic escarp]

Sounds like a cheese

[real moss]

why tho?

[daring pilot]

wait 4

[pliant pasture]

and the kne after is after your first ever frank

[orchid magnet]

Oh OK makes sense why we couldn't see a thing 😐 Do you know what secondary does? We did it in like 1 minute, found terminal instantly, put command, bam done. Didn't see any change after secondary.

[fresh bronze]

on god i hope they just straight up remove r7a1 in the alt release

[light lagoon]

Just remove all the full-team scans.

[fresh bronze]

it literally serves no purpose

[real moss]

nah its just doing it smart, it has no cheese at all like wtf

[daring pilot]

i hope R7 does get, not an alt release but a remaster

[pliant pasture]

because you are brand new and are terrified of sleepers and you don't know how to click on their heads yet

[daring pilot]

*stares intensley at R7D1

[real moss]

sec is only there to turn on an error on the level

[atomic escarp]

Feel like you should be doing the cells

[deft kiln]

R7 won’t get an alt

[real moss]

it takes 2 minutes to get back at that alarm !!!!!

[hexed vapor]

Why?

[real moss]

what ray says

[orchid magnet]

Ah OK, I forgot this part you're right.

[fresh bronze]

i almost certainly will not play that level again unless its hot garbage bugs are fixed

[atomic escarp]

Why not (haven't played the level so idk what he's talking about)

[fresh bronze]

it could be the only thing between me and 100% the game and i still wont

[orchid magnet]

Which bugs?

[daring pilot]

oh ahve you not done ovl?

[pliant pasture]

for people who have played a GTFO level

[daring pilot]

yes

[hexed vapor]

Gen cluster moves fog from above you to below you, Overload is in low elevation, you get access to cells before Overload but putting them in fog fucks the Overload area.

[orchid magnet]

Ohh tha't s the class X alarm level I love it

[light lagoon]

Multiple Snatchers is the main one that comes to mind tbh.

[atomic escarp]

Oh

[orchid magnet]

Yeah I agree the snatchers bug was horrible.

[fresh bronze]

i tried it but the map took many minutes to fucking load to the point me and my buddies agreed it just wasnt worth bothering

[daring pilot]

sir that is like 5% of my problems with D1

[real moss]

even new guys

[pliant pasture]

for fresh downloads though, you probably skipped the tutorial lol

[atomic escarp]

Yk what that's prolly for the better

[fresh bronze]

we also had entire rooms just vanish for some people

[real moss]

there is like 4 enemies between you and alarm m8 stop it

[orchid magnet]

I encountered the snatchers bug almost every time (which was annoying) but I don't remember any other bug. I've only done it like 3 times though

[real moss]

I did tutorial

wiped

[daring pilot]

my personal favorite is that for some reason the Za Warudo bug is way easier to trigger in that level

[fresh bronze]

ima get a pic hold up

[deft kiln]

Na man saving 2 minutes is kind

[light lagoon]

Snatcher bug is literally the only one I'm aware of since I've had the luxury of not running into any other bugs.

[pliant pasture]

hardest level in R7

[daring pilot]

za warudo

[real moss]

true

[daring pilot]

my favorite bug

[pliant pasture]

atill need the sound FX for it though

[daring pilot]

iirc scaler has a video of a D1 run where the level stopped time

like, I don't have a problem with many levels. But man is D1 annoying as hell, because the environment is so pretty yet I never want to go down there

bc my computer turns into a nuclear bomb

[real moss]

hmmm

[orchid magnet]

Was he maybe playing with a cheater? At some point I joined a R7D2 lobby through matchmaking (don't ask me why), and the host was lagswitching the whole thing making almost no enemies spawn and they were pretty much stuck in place at all time. I ended up killing everyone and myself with a mine before the end of the mission because the guys were clearly cheating in some way.

[fresh bronze]

entire rooms legit just got thanos snapped for us and when it happened everything inside was completely invisible including enemies. Invisible snatchers are not a fun time

[daring pilot]

I love the overall design

[daring pilot]

no that's a normal D1 bug

I've had that happen

[orchid magnet]

Ah yes that seems nice

Thanks for the screenshot lol

[fresh bronze]

it happened for us basically every run

[atomic escarp]

R7d1 single handedly made my CPU fan Perma loud

[daring pilot]

the level design is stellar

[orchid magnet]

Yeah the open vegetable rooms were terrible

[daring pilot]

I loved the optional side objectives, the mother/father split

[light lagoon]

Unironically thinking about it in all the time I've played GTFO I've basically only actually ran into an especially egregious bug once it was R2D2 When my screen got fucked.

[daring pilot]

the error, the holdout

[atomic escarp]

After 5 hrs of trial n error had to buy a new one

[daring pilot]

that level is so good in design

[hexed vapor]

@daring pilot Have you seen post-init checkpoint, though?

[daring pilot]

YES

[daring pilot]

you mean with the time stop?

where your speaker kills itself?

[real moss]

R7D1 is great

we woke up EVERYTHING

[hexed vapor]

No, that's scout bug.

[fresh bronze]

i actually dont remember hitting bugs ever except one time where the whole map was pitch black and a za warudo bug. unless we are talking about r7d1 in which every attempt we got a lot of issues

[daring pilot]

wait what's post init

[hexed vapor]

Post-init checkpoint lags the fuck out of host, and then breaks certain animations.

[daring pilot]

:O

[hexed vapor]

You start the main objective w/ the terminal runs

Then checkpoint and reset.

[daring pilot]

WAIT

[hexed vapor]

It completely breaks the game.

[daring pilot]

that might be the bug that caused R7D2 to do a shadow giant surge

I could be wrong

[deft kiln]

No

[hexed vapor]

Naw, unrelated.

[deft kiln]

Shadow surge is them fucking us events

An event on enter command to be more accurate

[daring pilot]

k cuz theres something that happens with R7D1 and a certain bug that modifies enemy types on other levels after resetting to lobby

[deft kiln]

heat

Issues

[hexed vapor]

I love heat bug

[daring pilot]

i was able to replicate it twice but I honestly forget what I did

ohhhhh

[hexed vapor]

@daring pilot #gtfo-media message
Second clip.

[daring pilot]

oh that's a different bug

[hexed vapor]

Casual 4AM breaking the game.

[daring pilot]

that one has not happened to me

but that one was in scalers vid

[light lagoon]

I will continue to be pleased that I have somehow managed to avoid any and every checkpoint bug I've heard of after seeing that.

[hexed vapor]

You have to go out of your way to make it happen.

[daring pilot]

is that unrelated to time stop?

[hexed vapor]

Unrelated almost for sure.

The checkpoint bug is a fairly specific setup to get to happen.

[deft kiln]

Yes

[daring pilot]

cool!

[deft kiln]

Time stop is a wave stack issue

[daring pilot]

someday I just want to go into D1 and see exactly how much stuff I can break

I live for chaos

[hexed vapor]

It's the ultimate GTFO level.

It truly encompasses more aspects of the game than most levels.

[deft kiln]

Do you know time stop has a fix

[daring pilot]

Alt F4?

[deft kiln]

You can restart time

N

A

Restore the lobby

All you need to do is kill your teammates

Then rez one as you down yourself

Will fix it

[daring pilot]

oh was confusing bugs

was going to ask how I'm supposed to res when my frames are -15

[deft kiln]

Oh wait

That is just a crash isn’t it

[daring pilot]

i have no clue

[fresh bronze]

are checkpoints overused really bad in r5 out of curiosity

[heavy siren]

Space beast terror fright. Not really, but kind of

[real moss]

there's none

[daring pilot]

there are none

[fresh bronze]

oh gotcha

[real moss]

luckily

[fresh bronze]

r6 feature

well time to get this shitshow on the road

[real moss]

enjoy R4

[fresh bronze]

knife gang baby

[real moss]

good luck 🙂

[soft shale]

Chat can you help me we are in R4 C3 and we are in Extreme and we need 2 Cell,s for the Generator but the terminals do not show us the 5th cell we only have one and 3 in OV.

now ed gives the cell hidden and we have to look for it or are we unlucky that there are really only 4 cells and so we can't play the level and have to start it all over again.

[forest folio]

I don't remember r4 too much but isn't there a specific order you have to do the bulkheads in sometimes to be able to do them all?

[soft shale]

yeah we need to do Extreme -> OV -> High

but too complete Extreme we need the other Cell ^^" its the second time we played this level because the first time we got both cells and then the game crashed and we are getting Frozen in time

[forest folio]

If they were there last time and not enough cells on the list this time might just be bugged then

[soft shale]

...yeah cool

Shiting out a new Rundown and not Fixing it is a great idea

[kind swan]

[pliant pasture]

[fresh bronze]

is shotgun sentry still unusable rn

[deft kiln]

It is pretty good

[fresh bronze]

interesting

[deft kiln]

It has its issues

But with bio it is fine

[pliant pasture]

is it above niche? or is burst still lonely?

[deft kiln]

Sniper and shotty are both above niche but the are more useful in their respective areas

Unfortunately the only interesting sentry is auto

[pliant pasture]

hmmm interesting in that you want to find somewhere its good but can't?

[deft kiln]

Auto sentry just staggers one guy

Isn’t isnt bad for chip dmg holding I guess

Idk what break point it helps with

Maybe something hel rev related

[fresh bronze]

i guess ill continue with the ol fashion burst sentry because being lazy is the ultimate way to play gtfo

[pliant pasture]

ya, its been just stinky when i have taken it out, it didn't really help with alarms, it might just be bad

maybe it shines paired with the shotgun sentry?

support sentry?

[deft kiln]

Maybe it is good against babies

[pliant pasture]

how much health do babies have ?

[daring pilot]

5

[pliant pasture]

ooph, and auto does 1?

[glass mirage]

auto does 0.71 or something

[deft kiln]

Yup

Lol

[glass mirage]

0.7 something

[pliant pasture]

hmmm precision multi?

[glass mirage]

none on the sentry, but baby is x2

so you'd need it to land 4 shots

[pliant pasture]

4?

[deft kiln]

Yeah it fires fast ish but baby surge it wouldn’t help

This is the problem with it wheat

It staggers one dude

And does the slowest chip dmg

[pliant pasture]

i want to that honestly

but ya, it staggers 1 regular for 6 seconds

and thats it

the whole wave still walks past

[glass mirage]

it'd need 4 because 0.71*2 = 1.42, 1.42*4 = ~5.6

[pliant pasture]

ooph

[glass mirage]

that's assuming all of the shots hit the head - idk if a baby has a small enough limb HP that the head would break first

ok yeah that wouldn't work

they have a limb HP of 2 - you can get 2.84 damage before breaking it

so now it takes 6 shots

fun

though the fifth leaves it with ~0.03hp so a booster could lower it to five, but that's probably not relevant

[cold merlin]

It appears that the auto sentry has a defined precision multiplier of 0.834 (it's defined as 1 for the other sentries) -> 0.59214 base precision damage

[pliant pasture]

ohhh a little better than i had thought!

[half hornet]

now that's crowd control

New auto-pistol is exceptionally cool looking, but dear lord it deals no damame. SMG 2, Electric Boogaloo.

[olive shoal]

ur not real

[half hornet]

And also: soloing uplinks is a thankless, dirty job and i hate it

[worldly cargo]

it's

almost

like

that's

the

poi-

[half hornet]

If only doing these secondaries gave me some kind of a rewa~ bah, whatever.

Dahell is this... A radio package? Even got an antenna.
Off to a good start: already found a new favourite backpack.

Oh and thank god: they unfucked the HAR. It no longer brings me pain.

[narrow gulch]

its gonna be my goto now lol

[fresh bronze]

kek opened overlord door on a2 and the scout behind it went off before the door was even opened and no one was shooting

[half hornet]

A) Bug
B) Cheater / modder

[pliant pasture]

woah

[fresh bronze]

no cheaters not doing pub lobby

[half hornet]

Have you heard a very loud bang by any chance?

Right.

Then just a bug i guess.

Or someone was awake and told the scout on you.

[pliant pasture]

just you and bots?

[fresh bronze]

with 3 friends

[pliant pasture]

hm

prolly bug

[olive shoal]

could be wave spawned inside and screamed or smth

[pliant pasture]

error spawn+scream is no. 1

[fresh bronze]

prob

[pliant pasture]

auto scream scout is a bug that i have only heard of in one room, in one level, after a long time, if the door is open

is that level data center?

[olive shoal]

no

it wont be that bug for sure lol

[pliant pasture]

gotcha

we never got to the bottom of that one did we

[fresh bronze]

no clue its just weird

caused a wipe cus before we even cleared the scout wave the next scout in another room went off before we even got in there

sadly that room was fuckin massive so got overwhelmed pretty bad

[fresh bronze]

can already tell based on pe a2 that this is gonna be a fun rundown

[solemn wigeon]

Yes r4 is pretty good

But the amount of content undermines the quality i feel

[fresh bronze]

actually really enjoyed a2

wasnt to difficult and was a perfect level to derust on after about 2-3 months of barely playing the game

got some clean knife combos

[honest lotus]

R4 and r5 are the better 2 rundowns

[fresh bronze]

r4 vs r5 tho which is better

[wide lion]

lfp e1

🙂

[sick verge]

What are the conditions to complete alt R4B2 secondary because my team went in and started the error and got the 2 bulkhead keys, after finishing overload and main we somehow missed secondary? Are we missing something in there?

[narrow gulch]

did you do the terminal command

[sick verge]

no

🤦‍♂️

[atomic escarp]

lol

read objective!!

[atomic escarp]

is R4C1 the one with the tank?

well fuck guess I have to play with real ppl now 😐

thank u for answering

[paper harness]

they actually murdered my boy

how did they gimp c2 this hard

[nocturne flax]

smalls zones with many enemies better than big zones with not so many enemies

[paper harness]

they actually murdered extreme

[nocturne flax]

Extreme felt the same imo

[paper harness]

there are like 5 fewer scouts

[nocturne flax]

They where rng tho

[paper harness]

in 54 and 53?

[nocturne flax]

that room tunnel either was packed to the bring or just like it was like now

[paper harness]

there was only one cout in 53 and one in 54

where there used to be 4 in 53 and at least 2 in 54

but it has been a while since I've played r4c2

shotgun sentry is still stinky

[tough atlas]

Less scouts

I remember there being easily 2 per extreme zone (55 and 56 were always empty)

Also I might be wrong but the surges felt harder

In High, the alarm for getting to the scout zone had fog in it and the room was MUCH more of a clusterfuck

[paper harness]

yeah surges were definitely harder

[tough atlas]

Only had 1 door thought

[paper harness]

because you didn't have such good crowd control weapons

and tools

[tough atlas]

Also, the alarm for getting to the bulk key in high didnt show its class (this was a glitch I think)

[tough atlas]

Regarding this, maybe it has nothing to do with it but I remember there being a fucked up wall in the original that allowed you to shoot inside the Overload zone from outside

Maybe I'm just imagining things, it has been 2 years

But perhaps it's still there and someone shot through the door

[paper harness]

there definitely was

to the right side of the door

[tough atlas]

Ergo, as soon as the bulk door is opened scout screams

Mayhaps it was not done intentionally

[paper harness]

they actually neutered c2 extreme wtf

[atomic escarp]

what did it used to be?

[paper harness]

lots more scouts, I think overload had increase enemy density as well

the thing with lots more scouts is it was already a really packed room, more packed than it usually is now

so it was an actual hazard that many teams potentially wiped on if they didn't carefully clear

but now you can legit just shoot the scout and pull the room

and there are like 2 giants in it

it's pretty laughable now

[real moss]

R5

[granite token]

What were the minor changes on R4C2?

[paper harness]

slight layout changes, I didn't go into the mom zone so I can't really tell you what's different about those but the scout zone seems to have less scouts?
The only definitive changes are that extreme is definitely a lot easier with the first zone after the bulkhead door only having 1 scout when it used to be either 3 or 4 and the large room where you do the surge scans had only one scout instead of 2

but tbf it's been a hot second since I've played the original R4C2 but the enemy distribution definitely feels lighter

[olive shoal]

level still sucks giant cheeks anyway

at least I could enjoy killing all the scouts but now there’s like

2

[paper harness]

zone 15 seems to have way less enemies as well

[olive shoal]

Mom zone enemies were the same but rooms were very different also

[humble elm]

i think overload got nerfed into the ground

[paper harness]

yeah but in general the level just feels like the original but easier

[humble elm]

i remember it being 3 shadows per like 15 seconds

now its like 15 per something

[atomic escarp]

overload is inside secondary right?

[humble elm]

had one wave in front of us and never saw anymore

[paper harness]

I think there were much less shadow giants

[paper harness]

yep

datasphere

[atomic escarp]

yeye i remember this

[olive shoal]

Funny level

[atomic escarp]

that level is kinda boring tbh

[paper harness]

was pretty much like this in the original as well

[atomic escarp]

atleast the surges are fun

[paper harness]

but I think with the layout changes to overload, it's more likely for enemies to spawn behind you or in the side doors on the left and right as you're running out

[humble elm]

back then it spawned in smaller waves so u would have more trickling in over time

instead of everything spawning behind

[paper harness]

but yeah definitely now you get more instances of enemies spawning behind you because of the overload layout changes

because in the original you'd usually have to fight your way through 3-4 waves before you'd get into the surge room and get back spawning waves

[humble elm]

also i think there are no more infectious rooms

half of overload or most of it used to be in infectious fog iirc

[paper harness]

yeah I think so

or at least there were many rooms with elevation differences that would make it seem more foggy

[humble elm]

its super easy now 😔

pein

[paper harness]

at least they fixed c1 though

now you can't permafoam the door because foam just goes through the door

¯_(ツ)_/¯

honestly it feels like every single level so far in r4 has been a sidegrade or straight up downgrade to the original

[atomic escarp]

badger reckon'd the shadow error was much faster spawning than og

[hexed vapor]

Ngl, I think most "differences" people bring up are literally just the same.

Like, R4A3 I've heard people say both that it's less and more giants and hybrids for Overload.

It's just the same.

Same for some R2 differences.

There are actual nerfs, and then there's a bunch of phantom nerfs that people bring up.

[atomic escarp]

delusion

[livid heath]

C1 tank belike

E1 tanks be like

[atomic escarp]

do ppl still run BC on E1

[livid heath]

Bc?

Elaborate

[atomic escarp]

holy fuck automod is cringe

[frosty hound]

is r4 fun, cause im purposefully not playing it till my irl friends have time for it

[atomic escarp]

yes its fun

[frosty hound]

every level has a secondary

[atomic escarp]

yes

[prisma zodiac]

12 Secondaries, 7 PEs

[atomic escarp]

it's beautiful

how r6 and 7 dhould have been

[fallow wasp]

It seems that whenever a new thing is added in a rundown, it gets thrown liberally into the mix, like r5 and respawn rooms, and r2 and wall grungles

R4 is optional objectives

[atomic escarp]

wheres term in C3 first zone?

[fallow wasp]

I have no idea

[patent oriole]

do mines blow up open doors now?

ours just blew up the door even though we didn't close it

[pliant bear]

Ignore it via screenshots

[atomic escarp]

so true bestie

[astral ferry]

placing a high mine can break an open door if the mine gets triggered

[chrome rivet]

Any tips for R4C2 overload? The shadow waves are brutal at the end.

[deft kiln]

The data sphere walk be difficult. Take thermals and bio. you want sleepers behind you. Try to always be moving

[atomic escarp]

once you get out of second bulkhead foam doors behind you, don't mine them, once you get back spawns they'll be stuck on doors and wont get any spawns ahead

[half hornet]

Filtered by R4A2

Lesson of the day: fuck overload objectives and fuck doing them solo.

Never again.

"oh hurr durr how bad could it be"

[solemn wigeon]

L + forward spawns

[real moss]

in the lfg you go !

[astral ferry]

mfw i have to fight 3 strikers every 30 seconds

[tough atlas]

In retrospective, R4B2 OG felt unbelievably harder

When I was doing it yesterday I thought "wait that's it? bunch of strikers every whatever?"

My group got lost twice and we did mom room and killed both

[solemn wigeon]

Thats how it works for everything

the level is relatively unchanged

you just got better + stronger weapons

[tough atlas]

C3PE is still killing me

but thank you I guess

[real moss]

The layout just outside ovl makes the class VI hella easier tho

[solemn wigeon]

tru

[real moss]

so its not only getting better + stronger weapons. there ARE nerfs

[tough atlas]

I held the slope with a sentry, hel autopistol and chad arbalist

[real moss]

yup

[tough atlas]

to be fair with that combo I feel I can hold waves A LOT easier

[real moss]

• I dunno if this is the case but the zones seemed larger in ovl

[astral ferry]

tbf, i think it's a result of just less enemies spawning in rooms overall

[solemn wigeon]

I guess if the osip distribution encourages you to go into the Class 6 then fair enough, but it was easy enough holding inside overload

[real moss]

we also had zero forward spawns in ovl. but that might be luck

[tough atlas]

I would lie if I told you I remember how many enemies spawned in R4 OGs

[half hornet]

Wait a fucking second

[astral ferry]

i think there's genuinely less enemies that naturally spawn rooms compared to the OG

[half hornet]

Wasn't Precision Rifle 9 rounds?

[astral ferry]

12 -> 8

[solemn wigeon]

There was a density bug fix

[real moss]

it certainly feels like it

[astral ferry]

it's not even density bug fix

[real moss]

C2 seemed empty

[astral ferry]

there are just less enemies

[half hornet]

I swear it was 12>9...

[solemn wigeon]

hmmst

[half hornet]

I feel insane

[narrow gulch]

C2 was so boring

im not looking forward to doing it again

[real moss]

They also almost completely removed the veruta recoil.

[astral ferry]

how am i suppose to pub c2 if everyone hates it

[real moss]

or I'm going insane

[tough atlas]

on this note

[narrow gulch]

can we get another har buff since the mgs are so good now

[tough atlas]

unironically, how would anyone go to get a group to methodically finish R4?

[real moss]

its good but its sooooooooooo empty in between alarms/high points

[astral ferry]

if you lfg long enough, you'll eventually find a group to carry you
it's just that easy

[narrow gulch]

funnest part of that level was meleeing a random ass mom we found 10 minutes in

the rest was just guh

[tough atlas]

Eventually, said Voxy, not knowing I've been in this discord for 2 years

And it's not like I want to be carried

I just dont want to do a (legitimatly good most of the times) try just to have to start from scrath with 3 people I dont know for the next try

It's hard for me to have more than time for 1-2tries in a row considering I wanna do PEs

[real moss]

make friends with the ones that you got good runs with

and spam them when you available

[tough atlas]

🤔 I guess I'll try my best

[real moss]

Also yes, i agree its PE or nothing

[astral ferry]

the community is small enough that you'll probably lfg with the same 15 people anyways

[half hornet]

peak pleasure for the eyes and ears

using the auto sentires the way the lord intended

Buffed PR is still shit. Reload is better, but not good enough

Still reloads for what feels like ages

If it had 10 bullets - it'd be perfect

but naaaaah, cant have good things in the complex

[real moss]

congrats on R4A2. on you go !

[deft kiln]

Like 25

[deft kiln]

Also there is ways of making c2 better but you gots to be speedrunning the level make it a sub 40 experience

And it becomes fun

[half hornet]

i really should stop just insta opening bulk doors

i need to fucking read

[real moss]

that would help

[glass mirage]

yeah i had that issue a bit myself

"oh I think I just triggered an error alarm without reading"

[narrow gulch]

I get halfway through pulling it and see red

[glass mirage]

I notice the red text in time to process that there's something tied to the door, but not fast enough to read it or to decide not to open the door after all

[deft kiln]

You can look at the door most of the time. To learn about them

Blue free no team

Yellow (can be alarmed) most of the time free with team.

Red alarmed and or locked

[narrow gulch]

I just dont check on bulkheads cuz none of them are alarmed in r7

[deft kiln]

Yup

[glass mirage]

Yeah it's only ever the bulkhead doors

I'm so used to R7 where you can just open them with no consequence

It's not like this has ever actually been a problem, we just weren't ready

[fresh bronze]

reading is for nerds just open the door and pray its not a error alarm you definitly could have prepared for a bit more

[glass mirage]

Hey, the error isn't my problem. I've got a spear.

[half hornet]

Alright.

Class 4 alarm.

Door is gone.

Turrets are in the yellow.

My chances?

[glass mirage]

High, just shoot them all

You've got this.

[fresh bronze]

the damn overload in r4a2 error alarm is such a sleep walker error alarm man its just annoying when they forward spawn and wake scouts

[glass mirage]

I believe in you.

[glass mirage]

Yeah that was the main level I did that on. Also pulled the secondary class 4 the same way

But that's not even what got us

The first attempt we wiped because the secondary HSU was against a wall, putting half of the scan on the other side. Dauda refused to get in until he was on the same side as the HSU

[fresh bronze]

we wiped because 2 scouts went off in massive rooms due to the error alarm forward spawning on us

[glass mirage]

Yeah the error forward spawned us a lot too

[fresh bronze]

thats when you kick the bot and readd em after the scan

[glass mirage]

And the forward spawns kept fucking us over

No, he got in the scan. We finished it

[fresh bronze]

stealth wasnt even a option for us kek

[glass mirage]

But the delay meant the foes got to us

In our case, the forward spawns kept spawning in rooms with scouts, but always 2 rooms away so they wouldn't scream

[half hornet]

gottem

[glass mirage]

Bots took care of anything we didn't melee

[half hornet]

shotgun sentry supported by 2 autos is very cool

[fresh bronze]

our bot got stuck on a crate and literally couldnt move at one point in r4 a1

#gtfo-media message

[glass mirage]

Being a box dweller isn't only for sleepers

[fresh bronze]

nevermind it was a table

either way goofy as hell

[glass mirage]

Average bot behavior

[fresh bronze]

one of my friends pov i have mine but its somewhere in a 3 hour video and im to lazy to hunt for it

with mine you can literally see the bot walk through the damn wall

i fuckin love the bots in gtfo man

gives me hella cyberpunk initial release vibes

[nocturne flax]

My man theres no way you can tell those .3 miliseconds that it got buff

[glass mirage]

Bots are too powerful for the laws of physics

[half hornet]

it does feel faster

but not fast enough

[glass mirage]

prec rifle does not feel faster

and i say this as someone who has used it through all of R4 so far up to C2, all optionals

[fresh bronze]

i loved prec rifle as a secondary back when thermal was decent

nowadays it aint it

having a man on thermal was basically having someone with biotracker

without the pings ofc

[glass mirage]

Except when I have a biotracker I actually tell people where things are

With prec rifle I just walk around and kill things without explaining where anything is

[fresh bronze]

fair

my team used to use it as a crutch when we struggled with just using our eyes to see bro

[glass mirage]

I use it for the funny

[fresh bronze]

unsure what is the funny

[nocturne flax]

I use it because i enjoy it

[glass mirage]

the funny is taking all of the "bad" weapons

[deft kiln]

Sure you do

I think you need the scope tbh

[fresh bronze]

my friend uses it all the time because he likes it

i love thermal its just the thermal weapons aint my cup of tea

[glass mirage]

And at this point I've actually gotten pretty good at it so I might take it more even once I'm done the R4 CBT

Yeah the thermal scope is ehh

It's alright but I'd probably prefer a normal scope

[fresh bronze]

during a alarm i prefer normal scopes

during stealth sections a thermal is pretty damn handy in super dark areas

esspecially with chargers and invis

handy until you accidentally bump your mouse into your keyboard firing a round into the floor waking up the entire room

[glass mirage]

skill issue

and also hardware issue because mine wouldn't register a click if i did that

[fresh bronze]

its the mouse i prefer

[hexed vapor]

PR is pretty nice for combat, ngl.

[fresh bronze]

its basically the only mouse that fits my hand while being wireless

[hexed vapor]

You can hold some ridiculous sight lines.

Thermal is nice for*

[fresh bronze]

my damn keyboard is concave going towards the desk which presses the damn mouse down

but i dont wanna buy another 80$ keyboard to prevent a issue that happens once every 2 months

[nocturne flax]

I love pr

[glass mirage]

Must have a pretty fancy keyboard if it was 80 bucks

[fresh bronze]

bro all the damn keyboards that have brown switches are shitty 30$ keyboards or like 80+

[glass mirage]

I dunno man I've got a $25 CDN keyboard and it's great

[fresh bronze]

i have had a lot of keyboards and the quality of this 80$ one is based as hell

absolutely love brown switches

im thinking about picking up a wireless keyboard when this one kicks the bucket

[paper harness]

Buy a 500$ custom mech keyboard