#gtfo-spoiler-chat

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deft kiln
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They don’t shoot you in the back

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You run in front of them

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Your fault not the bot

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They don’t know any better

real moss
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Not only that. A new player thinks he can clear the game solo, because bots. But devs clearly said they just bandaids for 2 or 3 man teams missing players

coarse berry
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they absolutely do shoot you in the back i.e. when they strafe behind you and keep firing

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I had a bot 90 degrees to my left shoot ME as I was shooting a grunt 2ft in front of me

deft kiln
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Na 100% your fault

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You can’t deal with the stage hazards

coarse berry
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the hazard's name is bishop

deft kiln
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Yup and he doesn’t know better

coarse berry
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and he has no depth perception

deft kiln
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Just send him to the void and bring him back

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He will regain depth perception

coarse berry
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bonus points when AI stand -right- next to mined doors and suicide

pliant pasture
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And make sure can you tell him when he gets back why he was in time out, so he learns his lesson

deft kiln
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Apm issue

pliant pasture
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you have good macro sure, but the mine match up is won in the micro

deft kiln
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Bot micro is the best gtfo tech

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In the game

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Host being able to rez themselves whenever they want

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Is so hype

pliant pasture
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really pays off for macro kiting

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you can bounce spawn cap from one end of the map to the other in a two man by have your bot enter and leave

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the most rewarding game play

deft kiln
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Watching bishop move through solid stone to rez me from across the map to keep the r7e1 alive

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Hey bro can you alt f4 so I can rez myself 🤣🤣🤣

prisma zodiac
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how would they deal with them?

coarse berry
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break LOS, take cover in any way

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they stand out in the open staring at them, mesmerized

prisma zodiac
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so they will avoid line of sight 24/7

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making them shy away from team scans (ok can just prio that higher if player is in one) and all other enemies

coarse berry
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prioritize team scans, donezo

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them avoiding other enemies is preferable to them standing out in the open, killing one grunt and getting turbo licked by the immortal

atomic escarp
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Never fully understood that take unless you're referring to 3/2 actual players and the rest are bots

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I get that there's videos of people soloing R7E1 (T-nenpi for example) but I struggle to think of a map I'd have an easier time fully alone compared to having 3 bots with me

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Bots aren't gonna get infected, people (me included) can, I cant shoot something I can't see, bots can, if I shoot a room wakes up, bots aren't going to wake anything up no matter what

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As far as bots are concerned spitters do nothing (I'm pretty sure they dont even get damaged by them)

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All those game mechanics are 100% skipped by bots

coarse berry
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they do get hit by spitters

atomic escarp
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I'd rather play with 3 good players but bots do the job, and sometimes much better than some human players

atomic escarp
coarse berry
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the main advantage of no-bots is more supplies and easier coordination, they can't FF you or stand outside of a team scan if they dont exist

atomic escarp
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But no infection neither damage

coarse berry
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they do take damage

orchid kindle
atomic escarp
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Again, let's re read what I wrote

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"unless you're referring to 3/2 actual players and the rest are bots"

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easier coordination with yourself?

mortal sequoia
coarse berry
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obviously genuine solo is harder than with 3 bots i'm talking about if you're duoing or trioing

atomic escarp
coarse berry
mortal sequoia
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Yea lmao

atomic escarp
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Compared to all the shit runs I had to do with people on say R6C2

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It's just jarring

atomic escarp
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I'm quite defensive of bots since bar SOME missions, I've done most with bots just fine

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I think I did all R2 save for R2D2 and R2E1 with bots on like first tries

real moss
coarse berry
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yeah it's probably genuinely impossible solo

hexed vapor
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I kind of want to do R7E1 door cheese tbh, actually sounds interesting.

olive shoal
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the bad ending

coarse berry
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me and some friends learned how to do it on stream

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it was absolutely hilarious watching that stupid immortal fuck caught behind a door

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but I wanna beat it legit too, it looks. insane.

atomic escarp
coarse berry
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you can

real moss
hexed vapor
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I've done it.

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Slightly hard to do I guess, but not really that bad.

wary olive
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🥹

coarse berry
hallow lark
coarse berry
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that's ROUGH

hallow lark
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I can kinda say that I had that experience cept it’s almost a similar matter but different perspective

atomic escarp
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"Wait, why aren't you glitching doors?"

coarse berry
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lmfao

hallow lark
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Lol

wary olive
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🦹

atomic escarp
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As if it was the norm

hexed vapor
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Hardstuck C1 mood

atomic escarp
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Or a guy going fully strategist then just proceed to glitch every single door on R2C1, fun times

coarse berry
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i remember when I learned how to do it someone in my chat said "it used to be easier" and I just sat there dumbfounded. Like did you just have to stare at the door the wrong way?

hallow lark
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I once attempted to join a lobby and the team is like “Why can’t you use a mic? Leave if you aren’t”. I tried to explain but they’re just what they are

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Oh well.

atomic escarp
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I only saw that once on ingame mm done by a guy with chinese characters as name

hallow lark
atomic escarp
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Ironically I saw it A LOT more often after they patched that out

coarse berry
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actually don't tell me. I can't wait.

hexed vapor
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And I think there was some genuine interest in seeing what people were doing for R7E1 solos.

hallow lark
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Well the fear is more like capitalized that I can’t hear and the level is full of shadows…

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When I first joined gtfo in r6

hallow lark
wary olive
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well when the level comes out again you wont need to be scared of it because burst cannon and sniper exist

hallow lark
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Well… but still…

coarse berry
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Arid 5 Enjoyer

hallow lark
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My first experience. I was so frozen with fear at the sight of my Biotracker and sleeping tanks.

wary olive
atomic escarp
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In case you want to know || tanks, hybrids, big room, cocoons so they respawn if you get a zone and 2 rooms away or whatever the condition was||

hallow lark
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My friend just told me to “STFU and come with me” XD. Awesome friend he is. Taught me the ropes despite my issues.

hexed vapor
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Fond memories of filling the objective text up with key and cell text, so we didn't realize the Overload error could turn off and thought we just had to fight the tanks.

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Still kind of wish that were a part of Overload and not just R6 sniper abuse.

atomic escarp
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Never happened again but they spawned one by one instead of "waves"

hexed vapor
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Wack

hallow lark
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XD

hallow lark
# hexed vapor Wack

I still cherish our R7D1 Duo completion even if it was pre-patched… I really went loose on the shadows as revenge

sacred flame
hexed vapor
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Fun level

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Mega-scuffed execution.

hallow lark
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XD

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I had my revenge on the shadows in that level since I was taking full advantage of Thermal weapons (PDW) so… I let loose all of my frustrations with them over the fact that I cannot hear those pricks.

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I went full maniacal-laughter that day

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“Give me all the ammo” I said

hexed vapor
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Class X shadow is gnarly.

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Error was so rough on launch

real moss
hexed vapor
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Just snowballs so bad if you don't know pathing.

real moss
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Putting responsibility on two groups at the same time

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forcing trust and teamwork

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A good level

hexed vapor
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I wouldn't mind if it were 1 tank room pull 1 split

real moss
hallow lark
real moss
hexed vapor
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Yeah, fair.

hallow lark
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Still… fuck those snatchers

hexed vapor
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It was def fun for me since I did a lot of the solo part.

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Overtuned sniper adventures.

hallow lark
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Sorry about that… my mind was full of shadow hate that day

hexed vapor
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All g

hallow lark
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But still… I’m glad we had fun that day

hexed vapor
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One person can take on much harder roles, while the rest of the team still has things to do.

real moss
hexed vapor
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And it kind of balances out with how quickly you meet up in that second respawn zone.

hallow lark
real moss
hallow lark
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R7D2 has the hard role of being a Wall or the Stealth aspect

hexed vapor
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I liked it less after it got "solved," but I think in retrospect it was still very good despite that.

hallow lark
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R6D3 is also the level with the most intense memories that I have with my friend

atomic escarp
real moss
hallow lark
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OOOh… gotcha

real moss
wary olive
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they should have made the error wave bigger if they really wanted a 3-1 split, 2-2 is just objectively better

hallow lark
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I did have a question about something

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This happened during my last R6D3

real moss
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Some levels I really liked but most were just ... there I guess

hallow lark
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Is it possible to manually break a lock with a Giant like close to you?

real moss
hexed vapor
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Apparently enemies can damage locks, yes. Have not seen it, but have heard of it.

hallow lark
real moss
hallow lark
hexed vapor
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Depends on range.

atomic escarp
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I've gotten away with it a couple of times but really depends on your definition of "close"

hexed vapor
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I think it's slightly shorter than the distance they detect movement?

real moss
hexed vapor
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Also, knife has a lower range.

atomic escarp
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AFAIK before R6, hitting the lock bit by bit did less noise than fully charge, dunno about that now

hallow lark
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I managed to break the lock with the spear during the giant’s “back to sleep” transition but

wary olive
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is client silent melee a thing lol

hexed vapor
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I don't think that's ever been the case tbh, but it's possible it got reworked.

orchid kindle
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What the hell is going on?

hexed vapor
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You should be able to check hammering the floor

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the mechanic is identical to my knowledge.

hallow lark
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I was just pissed scared cuz I wasn’t meant to take over the key extraction during the reactor timer cuz my friend was doing that and in middle of that, his daughter came into the room so it was extreme bad timing

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So I took over in a panic and told him don’t worry

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So glad I didn’t wake anything up… but it did costed a penalty round

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I didn’t have Biotracker on me so yea…

hexed vapor
orchid kindle
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Can y'all slow the fuck down?

hallow lark
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I’ll try

hexed vapor
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In most pubs I was able to clear basically the entire second respawn zone by the time they got out of the tank barracks.

atomic escarp
hexed vapor
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But with more competent players I clear just a few rooms, and they meet me halfway.

real moss
hallow lark
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They can at times be a literal… do or die situation

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This happens so many times in R7C2

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Half of my run attempted ended because of this

twin dirge
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mfw two giants spawn in front of the only door

prisma zodiac
atomic escarp
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It was still hilarious to see them basically beeline taking aeons to get to me while I had the cell

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Somehow, they never screamed so the room was still asleep

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That being said, I remember them trickling even in the room before the big one

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I guess their pathing is REALLY fucked up

vivid quartz
hexed vapor
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Nvm, if you full cheese R7E1 is actually p dull.

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The mom zones can be fairly interesting, but that's kind of it.

prisma zodiac
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mom zone rly is just scout stealth ye

hexed vapor
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I like it a lot just because scout stealth w/ enemies is kind of rare nowadays.

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Having almost all scouts spawned individually was a big mistake imo.

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Virtually guarantees that every scout room is going to be super boring.

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But yeah, it turns out that needing to fight enemies is kind of an important part of the level design.

prisma zodiac
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especially the reactor KEKW

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you could even just door bug all the doors in the mom zones

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and run through

hexed vapor
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Yeah, technically.

winter wharf
west crow
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Ratio

atomic escarp
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same with words ending in -ge

twin dirge
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bussy

golden terrace
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Sadge, Pepega, Madge etc

west crow
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Ratioge

nocturne flax
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Can we pls have saw off shotgun in r4

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I miss my little gun

coarse berry
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no. you get sawed-off bullpup rifle

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there is no trigger. they sawed it off

deft kiln
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Mr black dragon why wait

potent silo
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This chat still exists?

quiet stone
errant vigil
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He don’t play anymore, he doing RE4 instead

quiet stone
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Nooooo

quiet stone
twin dirge
nocturne flax
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so he goes to play re4 instead

velvet linden
lavish wyvern
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When is rundown 4?

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God

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I need it

lavish wyvern
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I thought the author delisted it

open pier
frail horizon
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rundown 4 SURELY has to come on the 4th month of the year

west crow
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Game of thrones

frail horizon
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I'm editing

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😡

west crow
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I'll forgive you

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If you play a quick a1 with me for a quick kiss

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It's mommy make out day on Venice Beach

frail horizon
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i dont need forgiveness

west crow
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Apostate

lavish wyvern
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It wasnt samdown

lavish wyvern
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My source?

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It was revealed to me in a dream

west crow
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It's coming out June 1st

lavish wyvern
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They said that?

west crow
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It's been confirmed

lavish wyvern
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Oh

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Nice

atomic escarp
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r3.5 april first (real)

quiet stone
hexed vapor
atomic escarp
lavish wyvern
hard cape
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R8 when?

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I already did R4 and 5 with mod and don't want to do them again if they are exactly the same.

velvet linden
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you're done now

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you can leave

nocturne flax
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See you next year

hard cape
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cy

twin dirge
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see you in 2026

bright kelp
hexed vapor
nocturne flax
hexed vapor
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More than 3, even

nocturne flax
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Less than 5 perhaps

hexed vapor
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Well you don't have to put it that way, geeze.

nocturne flax
kind swan
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BlackDragonTheBasedOne

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Is more accurate

candid dragon
hexed vapor
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Assuming R5 this year, probably late 2024.

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Maybe fall, at worst winter

deft kiln
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Insane we will be playing no new content till 2024

olive shoal
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what a concept

deft kiln
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How many times will I have to duo the maps

kind swan
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Yes

candid dragon
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legend has it, r8 arrives when someone gets 300 r4e1ex clears

winter wharf
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if alt r4e1 isn't bad, sure

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I mean 300 completions is a bit much for me to grind, I'll have other things to do at the time, cool mission though

wary olive
west crow
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that's an arc

wary olive
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if the arc is coming from the right, wouldnt it make sense for me to have to aim further left to hit the head

west crow
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no, because the knife still arcs to where your crosshair is

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think of it as you're changing the angle of the arc
since you aimed in front of the sleeper, the knife's arc hits the sleeper while trying to get to where you stabbed

hexed vapor
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Are you just saying it biases the arc's hit detection, or not at all?

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Because it should have an even harder time hitting the head in the second case.

west crow
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i'm saying the arc exists

hexed vapor
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We all know that there's an arc hitbox

west crow
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if at any point the arc's hitbox comes into contact with the sleeper, it counts as a hit

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at that exact point

wary olive
hexed vapor
west crow
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there is no bypass

hexed vapor
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Whether it's hitscan or it forces the arc to ignore previous hits.

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I'm pretty sure that's just wrong, though.

wary olive
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he said this, but im too dumb to understand it

hexed vapor
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Okay, if it's a raycast it's just hitscan outright.

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W8, this is super testable as well.

west crow
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i guess code exists for it then

hexed vapor
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Hammer would be unplayable w/out hitscan, though.

west crow
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but the last time stormpooper showed me code it was related to enemy propogation and it was literally disabled

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i can look at the mono to see if there's anything actually related to the melee weapons

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i'll let you know

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but hammer is not unplayable without hitscan

hexed vapor
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For aiming over or under stuff?

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Absolutely, it'd be painful to work with.

west crow
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i'm not understanding your point

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you mean it would be more likely to hit ceilings?

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because it does do that

hexed vapor
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It would be very prone to missing the limbs you actually aim for on enemies.

west crow
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it is?

hexed vapor
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???

west crow
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you aim the arc?

hexed vapor
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Absolutely never.

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I aim directly for what I want to hit.

west crow
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rayalot i think you're gaslighting me

hexed vapor
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Unless it's something I think would be hard to land

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No, I have always thought the "aim above the target" yada yada was cringe.

west crow
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if I am for a giant's limb, with hammer, it still takes a second to hit the limb

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and if I'm too close it's likely to hit elsewhere

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you don't have to aim above the target, but if you do, the hitbox will still swing downwards

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so you can still hit an enemy under you without needing to aim at it

hexed vapor
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Yes, it will, but you can't easily control where that will land exactly.

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The hitscan is very precise comparatively.

west crow
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i am still very much sure the hitscan is just a distance check

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but let me look

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if it was entirely hitscan, the spear wouldn't have been able to do the funny drag shit it did

velvet linden
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he said you're wrong

harsh pelican
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is the flamethrower hitscan or projectile?

hexed vapor
west crow
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there is no hitscan

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it does not exist

hexed vapor
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There is clearly a hitscan check.

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I could try modifying it to see what happens.

west crow
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the hitscan check does not do the damage

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it's just for the crosshair

pliant pasture
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sometimes backwards

hexed vapor
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So how do you explain instances where the hitbox will clearly miss the intended target, but you get the hit anyway?

west crow
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are you asking why the attack sphere radius lingers?

hexed vapor
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No, I'm asking why the attack sphere appears to behave differently based on whether or not you have a direct target or not.

west crow
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is the "direct target" the hitscan check you're referencing?

hexed vapor
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I just mean having literally anything in your crosshair vs. not.

west crow
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looks like decals are a hitscan

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but anything that involves enemies, it follows an arc

hexed vapor
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You have to be trolling, actually.

west crow
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i'm looking at the code

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the knife on the right hand size, it still adds the hit based on the arc of the weapon, but that's because it's in the ray distance length of it

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it looks like there's multiple checks in a melee swing

deft kiln
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Can anyone explain why ghost hitting with melees happens

hexed vapor
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So in more words, you acknowledge that there is a bypass, but you're going to spend an hour obfuscating about what that bypass is.

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OK.

deft kiln
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Seems related

deft kiln
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To the door

west crow
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i'm also reading the code while trying to explain this

deft kiln
pliant pasture
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and terrain, so inform a bouce/clank instance

wary olive
velvet linden
wary olive
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hammer arc definitely goes through the pelvis first

pliant pasture
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but why run that with a different system?

deft kiln
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Idk what you mean

nocturne flax
deft kiln
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Sounds about right

west crow
deft kiln
hexed vapor
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@west crow That stat affects your ability to hit enemies.

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Seemingly w/out changing the hitbox

nocturne flax
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you change the direction of the arc

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its still check on different time

wary olive
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ok what about this one

nocturne flax
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as long as you dont have a debug menu

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you could be swinging perfectly at the time its checking for a hit or some other shenanigans

velvet linden
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is this pepperman

west crow
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i've consulted with rayalot and we have come to a consensus that both exist

hexed vapor
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To be clear my position has always been that there's an arc.

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Just that the game has ways of ignoring it.

west crow
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rayalot is more correc than me

olive shoal
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beep has lost Sadge

west crow
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he will absolutely get the girl

hexed vapor
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Anyway, I'm gonna play 32m knife for a bit.

deft kiln
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I will need a detailed explanation 1500 word essay please

pliant pasture
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my take away is we either work together or die together

atomic escarp
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my take away is this game sucks

kind latch
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any word on rundown 4

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i forget this game exists sometimes because of the downtime inbetween releases of old rundowns

frail horizon
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no info

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but i can feel it in my bones

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this is the month

orchid kindle
frail horizon
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this is the 4th month of the year

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rundown 4

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thats also why they waited so long for march

olive shoal
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Ok knife user

twin dirge
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no no he's onto something

half hornet
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No R4 for at least 2 months I think

atomic escarp
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no r4 EVER

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its not REAL

pliant pasture
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wym

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RE4R just came out

winter wharf
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it is real

obtuse surge
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why did you lowercase the r

tough badger
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set expectations small

deft kiln
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Is this better Wesley

winter wharf
deft kiln
atomic escarp
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re4>r4

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fog propellor wtf

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💀

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will this fix D1 snatcher bug?

winter wharf
deft kiln
atomic escarp
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will fog propellor cure cancer?

deft kiln
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In game yes

atomic escarp
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does the friendly fog cancel out the cancer fog?

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surely cancer fog propellor next

winter wharf
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carcinogens

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mustard gas propeller when?

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shooting teammates not enough, can we poison them instead

deft kiln
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We aren’t allowed explosives in gtfo. But chemical weapons

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That is fair game

kind swan
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I just want legacy Hammer skins back.

deft kiln
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@kind swan

kind swan
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The wording speeds you up. Implies you move faster.

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As if faster than normal sprint speed

deft kiln
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Okay sure

kind swan
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He did also say he was doing it but didn't feel like he was moving any faster

deft kiln
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He is over a long period of time

kind swan
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Or she

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Idk

pliant pasture
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i agree i think they worded it differently than you would have

olive shoal
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we’re really out of things to argue abt on here man

deft kiln
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Na Beth

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Your mom stinks

olive shoal
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I miss toxic clique man

deft kiln
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Apparently I have to ask Justin for the toxic island

olive shoal
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they need to start up an argument again it’s been so boring around here lately

deft kiln
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Gtfo treatment

olive shoal
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where does one even find Justin man he’s been banned from everywhere

deft kiln
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Badger would know

olive shoal
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True

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Maybe it is your calling jish

deft kiln
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I must go on the hero’s journey

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Find the wise man Justin. Learn the ways then spread them to all gtfo players

olive shoal
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the righteous path

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I wish you luck team

west crow
nocturne flax
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ty

fallow wasp
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So we’ll have alt rundowns 1-6 and normal rundown 7 before rundown 8 right?

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Is rundown 8 going to follow main timeline or alt timeline

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If it follows the alt timeline, are we also getting alt rundown 7 or will that remain the odd one out?

half hornet
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Fuck if we know, dude. It could literally go either way, although I think R7 stays for good.

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Either we all die, or everything explodes, or we get stuck in a time loop... Literally anything could happen.

pliant pasture
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hopefully ||PI_AngelPray|| they record new voice lines for r7 to mark it as alt* timeline, but thats asking a lot, they def not redeveloping r7 or alt-ing ir

lyric gulch
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would be nice if they at least did some touchups with all the bugs on R7 though. especially R7D1

pliant pasture
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it would

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wouldn't it

eternal dragon
nocturne flax
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How to fix r6 r7

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remove checkpoints

kind swan
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Silence based One

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But I agree.

earnest crest
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should fix the terrible loading and performance of r7 too with an alt update :^)

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inb4 it just makes it worse

deft kiln
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Before they release r8 they do alt r7

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I will be annoyed

lavish wyvern
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ngl i kinda wish gtfo had a steam workshop

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but on other hand i fear for the amount of anime mods it would receive

pliant pasture
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plus client side mods work on everyone so no one would be safe

errant vigil
#

The moment I get called dauda-san is the moment I uninstall

errant vigil
pliant pasture
#

You use Q commands to say "Thank you" and instead you hear "konichiya"

glass mirage
#

reminds me of the one mod i saw that allowed you to use anime girl hair as a "helmet"

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can't remember which one that was

real moss
livid heath
hexed vapor
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Steam charts below 700 for the day.

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Officially in the dead period this week.

half hornet
#

Hm+

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You mean this game?

west crow
stone geyser
#

big spoiler @vestal mountain hackett becomes a turtle TT_nofacesmile

glad river
#

he hides in his hoody

lavish wyvern
#

HACKETT SPIN

kind swan
#

Hackett: COWABUNGA IT IS

deft kiln
astral ferry
#

there's less than 100 NA players at any given time 😔

atomic escarp
#

OCE carry Astolfo_flex

astral ferry
#

i refuse to believe that oceania exists

olive shoal
#

i refuse to believe that u exist

atomic escarp
#

you're right, we're not real AngelPensive

dark rover
#

same with canadians

tepid hawk
#

wow

pliant pasture
#

RIP (rest in Pretend-canadia)

kind swan
#

Weird.

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Didn't think this channel had embs

atomic escarp
#

Beep is a girlboss (not fake)

kind swan
#

hot

gaunt shale
#

can someone spoil the r4 release date for me 🥺 🥺 🥺

olive shoal
#

june 1st

fallow wasp
#

It released yesterday??? Dunno what you're thinking

deft kiln
olive shoal
atomic escarp
kind swan
chrome rivet
#

Man the Rundown 4 maps look absolutely massive

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Actually nervous to play them

deft kiln
#

Don’t worry

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Just hold w

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They will be over quickly

glass mirage
#

Hold shift sometimes, too

kind swan
#

don't forget Alt+F4 because of a teammate that fucked up ending the run with no completion

fresh bronze
kind swan
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Or any of the expeditions that you have 1 be the code diver

fresh bronze
#

was big sad

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it will almost inevitably happen again in E1 and I am almost always code diver so kek

kind swan
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Just don't be my friend

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Who typed a 5 letter word

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On the last code

fresh bronze
#

kek

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its fine i was led to believe by my own stupidity the location of the terminal shit was random with no way to know in r7d2 and then didnt notice the very obvious power cell generator which basically made that level 3-4 times harder

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ahh the simple issues that could be fixed by reading just a wee bit

tough atlas
#

I remember a try on soloing R5A2 I basically foamed myself out of the bulk terminal I still needed to activate, nice laugh

raven flare
#

sizes of the A1 levels to see which one is the smallest one
R2 is by far the smalles one, specially when compared how R1 is bigger than R3, and R3 is bigger than R2
no one asked for this but here i am savin the day

hexed vapor
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But what is the smallest B-tier?

raven flare
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..........

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um

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r2b1

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there

frail horizon
#

now compare alt e tier maps

pliant shard
#

now compare r7e1

raven flare
#

maybe ill compare every e tier map when r5 comes out so i have em all

nocturne flax
#

Community poll can 10cc finally buff the smg to pdw damage
up arrow = yes
down arrow = no
kekw = kekw

boreal tendon
#

hopium doesn't leave you I see

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even after they added helspecials without nerfin em

prisma zodiac
#

hel gun/BC*

raven flare
#

machinepistol

nocturne flax
errant vigil
#

They're gonna add back R5 so keeping the busted hel weapons the same makes sense

chrome rivet
#

Honestly bro, SMG aint that bad

velvet linden
#

yes it is

chrome rivet
#

but yeah it needs the PDW treatment

hexed vapor
chrome rivet
#

Overall though, all the weapons in the game are incredibly well balanced. I feel like every weapon is viable if the person using it understands its strengths and weaknesses and how to use it effectively. If you use DMR and can't aim, yeah its gonna suck. If you use HAR like a machine gun, its gonna suck. Its just about practicing with each weapon to understand how it fits into a team comp and how to use it in combat and possibly in stealth.

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Like I know I can't aim so I usually stick to Carbine, PDW and AR.

hexed vapor
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Ehh.

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Some things are balanced better than others.

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I think I'd complain less about the states of the weapons and more about specific decisions from the balance team, though.

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HAR nerf doesn't make much sense.

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PR nerf doesn't make much sense.

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Carbine buff doesn't make much sense, needed to go harder.

raven flare
#

pr didn't need anythin but i guess they saw many people usin it

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that's how i think they buff things

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based on how many people pick em up

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and as no newies at all picked carbine

fathom halo
#

@here can someone please bless me with 12 bucks I really need it’s for my school project and I’m having financial problems so I can’t afford buying the supplies please

raven flare
#

buffs

hexed vapor
raven flare
nocturne flax
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Har nerf doesnt make sense because of rifle right now

west crow
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They didn't like how a precision rifle didn't need to headshot to 1 clip a big

hexed vapor
nocturne flax
#

if your using pr for bigs you mad stupid

west crow
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Can't stop me

hexed vapor
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HAR nerf doesn't make much sense because MG buffs, HAR's general drawbacks, and also I just think having accessible weapons in the game is good.

nocturne flax
#

"iT cAnT 1 MaG b1Gs" shoot smalls headass that was the gun was for

hexed vapor
#

I hate that our most "accessible" weapons are Revo and Arbalist.

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HCP is still decent, at least.

west crow
#

They should make the arbalist inaccessible by removing it

chrome rivet
#

HCP still fucking slaps

nocturne flax
#

it was better than choke

chrome rivet
#

it isn't OP but still really good

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Choke is for giants, HCP for small guys.

west crow
#

Choke is for birther

chrome rivet
#

Thats how I always thought about it

hexed vapor
#

I dunno if I'd say it's "really good," but it's not bad either.

nocturne flax
#

when it did 30 damage it was for everything c224j

chrome rivet
#

lmao facts

west crow
#

Choke had more ammo

nocturne flax
#

you can choke on deez

west crow
#

Stop quoting your mother

nocturne flax
#

no, that was your grandma

chrome rivet
#

I feel both fill that niche of powerful weapon that isnt a scoped weapon

fathom halo
#

can someone please bless me with 12 bucks I really need it’s for my school project and I’m having financial problems so I can’t afford buying the supplies please

nocturne flax
#

get a job

hexed vapor
#

I'm waiting for that screenshot.

west crow
#

Pr was a little better when thermal sights weren't gimmicky

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But devs love their fog

hexed vapor
#

Is PR even good on R3C1 full fog?

nocturne flax
#

I love how 10cc seen how people where using thermals in a cool inmersive way wich was gimmicky

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and first thing that they did was nerf it

hexed vapor
#

You aren't allowed to enjoy GTFO

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Unless you're unlocking the other 90% of your brain on uber sweat weapons, I guess.

broken scarab
kind swan
#

The last time I saw someone use PR was a newbie (good at fps) and was killing enemies left and right. However he ate majority of the ammo packs because of that.

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Told the guy he might like Revolver

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Then again- it was only R1B1 So not much is to be said how he uses it in the more difficult levels with fog being present

prisma zodiac
#

i mean PR isnt bad if you are hitting headshots on smalls efficency wise

its just the issue of dealing with anything but smalls, plus reload time and the sight being bad at times even
And while its definetly good when you hit headshots, its still outvalued by most other wave clear specials

knotty barn
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PR does kill a scout, unless he stand behind a window, you can't see that through the PR xD

raven flare
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ey i remember that happenin on a stream
mightve been one of yours :]

knotty barn
#

yeah, fun times 😄

raven flare
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but hey its better than just
failin the shot for no reason

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like me a couple times

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but yeah even tho pr does oneshot scout, lots of shotguns n stuff can too heh
even themain rifle in the back of the head can

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well not oneshot but

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multiple shot kill

knotty barn
#

or getting too fancy with the shot through random cupboards, rails and other items that look transparent, but are not xD

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I do enjoy the PR, but the reload time ... REEEEE XD

raven flare
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im all about that reload cancel on the gun
even if i barely
use it :]
also yeah i dont shot through holes cause ik games, but i saw a glowstick fall through those railings that have holes

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so idk what to believe anymore

knotty barn
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yeah you can' t really reload cancel the PR, else it would be amazing, but the ammo gets added almost at the end of the animation ...

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unless they changed that ^^

raven flare
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no yeah it was kinda at the end but every milisecond i can save works
i- i hate guns that i cant reload cancel for some reason, even if i do need to use em
for r3c1 i need the chokemod shotgun and it angers me i cant cancel reload ksmdk

prisma zodiac
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huh

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just take hel gun

raven flare
#

no >:b

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i need high dmg weapons for c1

hexed vapor
prisma zodiac
raven flare
#

but i need scouts ded n chargers oneshotted

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and i could with hel gun but idk how to rapid fire it

astral ferry
#

just click at a moderate pace?

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iirc, the only delay between shots just comes from the charge up time

raven flare
#

yes but still i wanna oneshot scouts from the front cause

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when i enter the error alarm zone is the first thing i gotta do

hexed vapor
#

Gotto get that choke mod gameplay.

raven flare
#

I AM USIN CHOKE MOD AAAAAAA

plush basin
#

love the choke mod

prisma zodiac
plush basin
#

I should probably learn the hel gun better, despite everyone raving about it I don't vibe with it so much

raven flare
#

i like it but i still need to figure out the quick succession cause APPARENTLY I CAN ONLY USE HEL GUN ON C1 /j

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THERES NO GUNS

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only hel gun

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:b

prisma zodiac
#

only hel gun

tough atlas
#

occiput hel gun 1shots scout

raven flare
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but not from front

tough atlas
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albeit I'll admit that's not really possible usually when entering the error zone

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I dont know man, use BC?

raven flare
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i dont

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think it would b great

tough atlas
#

If you really hate Hel Gun

raven flare
#

it cant oneshot chargers can it

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or

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maybe

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?

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no i dont think so

hexed vapor
#

You can kill 2 chargers in a burst if you aim it well enough.

raven flare
#

with an error and a full room idk if ut would b good

tough atlas
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I think it's like 20 damage from front per shot and every burst has 5 bullets

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so yeah basically what ray is saying

prisma zodiac
#

definetly safer to take choke vs bc

tough atlas
#

Yeah you can also just take chokemod

raven flare
#

I HAVE BEEEEEEEEEEEEN

tough atlas
#

I've no idea where your "only hel gun allowed" came from

raven flare
#

IM GONNA TAKE PRECISION RIFLE

tough atlas
#

I assume it was an hyperbole

hexed vapor
#

PR is way worse.

prisma zodiac
hexed vapor
#

What is the actual issue you're having slendi?

raven flare
#

and shotgun sentry

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D:<

raven flare
#

i just said i was goin chokemod on r3c1

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and everyone told me guns i dont need /lh

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GO AWAY HEL GUNNERS

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PRAISE THE SHOTGUN

hexed vapor
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@prisma zodiac Did you guys end up taking HEL Rifle for the speedrun?

prisma zodiac
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for c1?
havent done that one yet

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its actually the only one (aside from D1 that i havent done personally) that we havent run rly

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feel like it will prob just be hel guns tho

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that and maybe a choke mod

hexed vapor
#

Maybe.

raven flare
#

take the
heavy assault rifle for no reason

hexed vapor
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In practice w/ Void and Jish we ran HEL Rifle, HEL Gun, Combat Shotgun + 1 pub

prisma zodiac
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we will see then
most of the issue is ressources + the 2 zones of chargers you need to defend from on hsu scan

hexed vapor
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But HEL Rifle is pain.

prisma zodiac
#

rly dunno about hel rifle musicmommyThink
you cant setup pen well

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in speed

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combat shotgun is always great tho

hexed vapor
#

The idea was just to cross-room scouts.

prisma zodiac
#

it and hel shotgun should make waves of chargers less of an issue to stagger

prisma zodiac
#

feel like only the last one rly matters tho

hexed vapor
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Yeah, prolly.

prisma zodiac
#

you ran what

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4 burst sentrys?

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ah no i think jish said mines

hexed vapor
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2-cfoam 1-mine 1 bio

prisma zodiac
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2 foam on c1 o.O

hexed vapor
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Permafoam both alarms and error.

prisma zodiac
#

do they actually take the door on the right in the 2nd alarm?
for first i feel like no solution rly feels satisfying :I

hexed vapor
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They always go middle door.

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When they enter that room, that door is the closest door to them.

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For error they always go bottom door

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for first alarm, RNG

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Although they seem to spawn in spawn way more than from E.

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Bottom door for 20*

prisma zodiac
deft kiln
#

Fog zones actually very scary

prisma zodiac
#

rly gotta try that myself with you all

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feel like mines are still neat

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but sentries (or at least 2) would maybe fair better

kind swan
#

Most of the other areas were killed by foam and mines

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Which makes sense in the end

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And he was headshoting them

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It's probably my first time seeing someone use it like revolver crackshots play getting headshots left and right

kind swan
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Use a PR to get headshots left and right like a Revolver?

nocturne flax
#

no

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the fact that its the first time you saw someone using the gun like its suppose to

kind swan
#

Well I'm sorry I don't play gtfo everyday next to PR's pick rate

nocturne flax
#

not sad for you dingus

kind swan
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Another thing is. The guy was new to gtfo

nocturne flax
#

mans based

kind swan
#

Black dragon as a whole is based

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So that comment isn't saying much

nocturne flax
kind swan
#

Aren't we all

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Anyhow I'm off back to work

hexed vapor
#

PR do be fun to play, ngl.

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When I get 8 kills with one mag 😩 👌

errant vigil
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Me when I use revo but don't take 3 seconds to reload

pliant pasture
#

R7B1, The best way to grind/practice Scouts
so, if you want to lab stealth scout kill attempts R7B1 is your man.

you stealth kill the first zone (Zone88), you do an alarm for one of the locked zones (Zone_89 & Zone_90) and WithOut Opening That Door, you do the second alarm door as well. BEFORE you open any Security doors, and after both alarms, you go to the console and "List Key" and then you "Query Key_color_123" to find out which of the two security doors you open.
You then open the security door that has the key in it and you stealth into that room. Without killing the scout you get the key. then you push forward into Zone_91. This zone will have three rooms and ione scout total. Kill the scout if you have to but leaving it untouched is good for practice with this loop. The security door is to Zone_92, once you get there, you have a check point.
Once you finish that check point scan you can stealth attempt 2-3 scouts in a row behind you. If you botch it, and wipe, you just get sent back to the checkpoint. If you succeed, you can just shoot the bots and take fall damage to reset to checkpoint and try again!

Set up takes me a little less than 10 minutes, and then I can get 3 scout attempts within 5 minutes without reload screens.

Load out recs:
PC: Any, Any, Hammer, Bio
Bots: Assault rifle, Mach Gun, Hammer, turrets

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^^^^ @cosmic swan

nocturne flax
hexed vapor
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which I'd recommend.

pliant pasture
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oh true, makes resetting faster

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, but also if you mess up and want to practice on the next scout bots make clearing the scout wave faster and trivial

tough atlas
#

I'm apparently a magnet for the "tripmine laser goes between plates and blows up door" thing

#

I should just place it sideways tbh

kind swan
hallow lark
#

Dmr/Sniper is a great Giant/Tank killer loadout with a side of small clearing… except it’s ammo hungry

half hornet
#

Makes you an amazing ranged combatant

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have fun defending your ass from a close quarters bite though

hallow lark
half hornet
#

So do i

hallow lark
#

That’s why I have a spear!

raven flare
#

dmr sniper sounds like the worst combo i couldve seen

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:D

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pick one, JUST ONE /lh

half hornet
#

I noticed that in horror games i am scarred while enemies are far away and approaching

hallow lark
raven flare
#

why

half hornet
#

Once they finally hit me i become a CQC berzerk (panic i guess)

raven flare
#

u must wear knife

half hornet
#

Unfortunately GTFO enemies are cringe fast

#

One second and they're right next to you

#

And most maps are pretty tight, so it helps having a plan B weapon be it a special shotgun or primary smg

hexed vapor
#

If you don't need to be able to handle any threat you encounter, it's arguably a great support loadout.

#

Avoid shooting DMR too much, mainly hit shooters or use it for chip/stagger.

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Conserves ammo for when you actually need to use Sniper.

raven flare
#

yes

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based

raven flare
hexed vapor
#

Weird way to say "reasonably competent in combat"

#

but I do also agree, most people in pubs kinda bad.

raven flare
#

... i didnt meant that

#

more like

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u need to tell ur team 'hey i cant do short range, help'

hexed vapor
#

You can do short range w/ DMR

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You just don't have crazy economy for wave clear.

raven flare
#

yes but it isnt great

kind swan
hexed vapor
kind swan
#

Agreed

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1 shot headshot shooters is nice

#

And then like 3% at least main damage booster allows you to headshot strikers iirc

raven flare
kind swan
#

Then again hel revo is probably the better option against chargers with that penetration

raven flare
#

ah yeah if we talk chargers dmr does
not a lot

prisma zodiac
#

dmr 2 tapping on a 12 mag is pretty reliable

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its just the zoom that can throw you off

kind swan
raven flare
#

i guess i never miss huh

#

thats such an old meme

prisma zodiac
#

and since getting them is rng

#

its not really smth people think about when going about how strong smth is

hexed vapor
#

Trying out that infinite choke mod

#

I have to say, I think lot of the people using it are missing a whole lot.

#

I see a lot of 2-shots

#

When you can def just 1-shot most things

#

even spraying and praying

pliant pasture
#

this i believe

hexed vapor
#

Okay, my thoughts here...

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Just spamming it is very hard to control.

#

So either your average infi ammo cheater is spamming it...

#

or they're just missing a lot.

#

Probably a mix depending on the specific person cheating, even.

#

And neither is surprising since cheaters are, in-fact, kind of bad.

#

They're either inaccurate or they lack basic FPS skills.

deft kiln
#

I don’t believe cheaters play with two hands tbh

west crow
#

Why wouldn't I play with two hands

glass mirage
#

I play with three hands

raven flare
#

i play with my nose

deft kiln
#

I just use, double jump, perfect boosters, infinite stamina, run and gun, no friendly fire, edited weapons. Perfectly vanilla(it is for my own enjoyment)

deft kiln
west crow
#

The other hand is writing chimp theory and talking about cheese foam

wary olive
#

is autopistol sniper gonna be a good loadout

west crow
#

Absolutely

deft kiln
#

Yes

west crow
#

As long as you have spear

deft kiln
#

And foam

west crow
#

And cozs approval of course

#

He needs to verify immersion

deft kiln
#

Tool packs should be tool dependent for immersion

west crow
#

What about ration packs

deft kiln
#

You eat sleepers

#

Food isn’t important

#

Water through

west crow
#

More ration packs for me then

glass mirage
#

You're the one missing out, not eating sleepers

west crow
#

Cannibalism = low stamina regen low hunger satisfied
Ration pack = max stamina fully satisfied

deft kiln
#

It isn’t cannibalism

west crow
#

Who says you aren't a chimp?

#

There was obviously some kind of generic altering when becoming a kds operative

#

Perhaps you're half chimp

#

It takes a real monkey brain to actively choose to run the arbalist

deft kiln
#

Hmmm when might want to consult gtfo lore weather humans chimp hybrids are possible

west crow
#

Perhaps we could talk about the implications of chimp theory over dinner 😉

deft kiln
#

Yeah beep we should I remade r1a1 and you would really enjoy it

west crow
#

I've been looking to experience the Canadian hospitality

#

My dms are always open

deft kiln
#

For some reason your wife told me you were busy today

#

😭

west crow
#

She's trying to force me to pay my alimony

#

I've been ignoring her calls

deft kiln
#

Werid so I am just being used

#

To get to you

#

Crazy

west crow
#

There's only one way I want to use you

#

Ignore my wife she's just jealous

deft kiln
#

Figures

west crow
#

We can have a more private conversation

deft kiln
#

Honestly I dislike checkpoints so much I think the checkpoints i between levels are stupid. If you fail a3 you should have to replay a1 and a2

#

Would teach players to not take dmg

west crow
#

Checkpoints should be in-between ladders so I can cfoam them

deft kiln
#

You are addicted. you need to stop

west crow
#

Just one more ladder

#

I can quit whenever I want

olive shoal
#

?

west crow
#

Hold on

#

The third banana had an opinion

deft kiln
#

?

west crow
#

Everyone quiet

#

Jish has something to say 😍😍

deft kiln
#

Tbh I can see why you guys are in a gtfo marriage. Both additives to c foam

#

Sure breads team has no skill. But we c foam for the people

west crow
#

She keeps divorcing me

olive shoal
#

somebody should call beep’s psychiatrist

west crow
#

There she goes again

#

Always with the therapist

#

Yet she won't even talk to hers

olive shoal
#

I’m the upgrade

west crow
#

Is this soldier boy in the room with us right now?

olive shoal
#

yes

#

He’s calling you out for wearing a cape

west crow
#

Doesn't even remember the quote

prisma zodiac
hexed vapor
#

Bruh

prisma zodiac
#

yep

#

and yet they fail

#

hell

#

ive seen a duo (both cheating) fail on r7c1

#

even tho they had unlimited ammo and fucking insta kill

#

like

#

HOW

glass mirage
#

At that point you might as well just turn on god mode

prisma zodiac
#

Funny

#

ive watched someone that failed r6c2

#

with god mode

#

instakill

glass mirage
#

Yeah I'm not surprised

prisma zodiac
#

they quit on the hybrid error in fog

#

cuz they did not understand the game

glass mirage
#

Before you said that I was gonna say I wouldn't be surprised if they still died with godmode

prisma zodiac
#

4 1/2 hour attempt btw

#

couldnt figure out where to go

#

when they legit had a fog turbine

#

and repellers

velvet linden
#

that was me

#

i had to go cause my mom said that the nuggies were ready

prisma zodiac
#

that wouldve been a real reason

#

guy was fucking hilarious

velvet linden
#

thank you

#

im quite the joker

prisma zodiac
#

prob 2nd funniest narcissist gtfo streamer ive watched

#

1st being a „vet“ with the funniest takes

velvet linden
#

2ND???

#

you insult me

#

im the best narcissist

prisma zodiac
#

are you a streamer tho?

velvet linden
#

thats not important

#

you're derailing

#

lets talk more about me

deft kiln
#

Can we get a statistic update

#

On r2d1

hexed vapor
#

Even if people aren't hyping themselves up, and some for sure are...

#

They want to feel like they're "good," like they're making big contributions.

nocturne flax
#

He missed the r4 days

hexed vapor
#

Like when a guy ends up in a lobby with 3 very good players on R2D2 (Jish would know), and they cheat for no reason.

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Like bro, we have plenty good odds of winning, why?

nocturne flax
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Of people soloing r4e1 with cheats

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And then claiming to solo it legit

hexed vapor
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Solo R4E1
1 hour

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They don't even have a ballpark for how outlandish that is.

olive shoal
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i could do it

deft kiln
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Crazy part ray that dude has been playing in lobbies for 2 weeks now

astral ferry
deft kiln
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Man I sometimes have decent movement in the levels with very specific jump spots then players just double jump

astral ferry
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i mean if they're gonna cheat, i hope they're at least subtle about it

deft kiln
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They don’t even try to hide them. They almost always still use mod list

astral ferry
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and then they act like they're doing me a favor when we get the clear 😔

deft kiln
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You do post (need first clear)

olive shoal
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its ok to admit u were the one cheating vox

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its a hard level

astral ferry
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I ADMIT IT

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I RUN DEAD BODY FIX

olive shoal
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WOW

deft kiln
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R6c3 pe

astral ferry
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AND SHOTGUN SWAY

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AND IM NOT SORRY

deft kiln
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hahah

olive shoal
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u should run heroic heart i think that would be really cool i think

astral ferry
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nah i like to larp as my gtfo OC, he's chronically overweight

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really boosts the immersion

deft kiln
olive shoal
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its impressive

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me when i have heroic heart but still cant long kite enemies

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most intelligent pub

deft kiln
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Tbh I am sad the bot micro never caught on

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With people leaving and joining to get rezes

nocturne flax
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My.boy really tought we wouldnt notice the sustain fire for 2 min of the guy

hexed vapor
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"I'm gonna take the pressure off, team. Hold here, I'll go and distract them."
Proceeds to solo 80-90% of the reactor waves from R4D1

winter wharf
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Why solo 80-90% if you can solo 100%

hexed vapor
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Also, they died once, lol.