#gtfo-spoiler-chat
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on the dimension depending on where you hold it depends
Im aware of their name, Im just goofing and think that if I were to use an adjective to describe a screaming door, I would say "angry" not "blood".
I mean they have blood on them as well đ
why is there enough ammo in r3d1 to destroy a small island nation
gotta make it noob friendly
gtfo is a casual 4 player couch co-op game
the guns sucked balls back then tho
man r4e1 is so easy. Why is there enough ammo to level a whole continent
you guys where just bad like everybody back then
write this down devs
you aim just suck
nerf the player next rundown is the next step
i never played it, I only heard about the guns sucking balls from other ppl
fuck them up
those people suck ass
im an OG
lol
I mean we already got burst cannon and sniper nerfs now
hel weapons on the other hand
đ
god I hope they never nerf BC
burst cancel removal was enough
let me wreck in peace

"pls dev, don't nerf op weapon"
"why is the game easy???"
it doesn't make sense anymore
we've been saying hel weapons are broken for how long
atleast calle didnt lie straight to your face
like he did to me
10/10 community engagement
weapons are getting balanced 
yeah patchnote was poopoo
who?
i called it tho
I mean people will cry about guns being nerfed
people will cry about guns not being nerfed
yeah so the best thing to do is to do absolutely nothing then?
he's right there
You list 3 things, and patch note has 2, that's 33% inaccurate
because they sure as hell didnt fix the bots dropping resources
a glimpse of change to hel gun
but where's the carbine buff?
they should wrote "Buff carbine"
Best thing to do is to actually think about things
Cant believe people tried telling me burst cannon isnt worse than r4 for example
and give nothing
?
lmao what
buff carbine burst rate by 0.01
arent the new guns identical to their previous release versions?
lolol
you melt regular mom like its nothing
in R3, people just shit when using BC
1st or 2nd point
BC is gonna be my goto anti BBC gun
because there will always be people who think guns are balanced
imma save this convo
when we had the scattergun meta
and will repeat in a few days
people unironically defended it
and said it was balancewd
who cares what they think
people dont think and would rather jump to conclusions quite often
i mean pre nerf scatter was ridicolus
their opinion is iterally a nonfactor
like right now
what changed about it?
i heard people said, on the day Alt R3 release
it got 0.7s charge time now
instead of whatever it is
0.7 is BC's charge time
Man, it is impossible to find crews for R2E1.
it's definitely not 0.7s lmao
Hel gun is 0.1, was 0.1
misinfo or me being me
0.7 is BC
i think this one of the reason why the dev remove old rundown and replace it with new one
you have to not have used hel gun after patch to think that the charge is 0.7
is BC chargeup the same as the mg's
Longer
MG's only 0.4
gotcha
but we've had this continuation of a broken meta for every single alt rundown, the weapons in this iteration are simply too strong for what the levels used to be balanced around
either rebalance the levels or rebalance the weapons
tools and weapons are too strong in alt rundowns
we're back at it again Mr.Black Dragon
Revert helgun to its og r3 state
make hel rifle shoot slighly slower or made the charge up matter
bc damage to 19.8
r1 machinegun add 1 more mag
make booster less rng or just rework it completly
people just remember back to the time where gun/tool is "bad"
and because of that, the rundown was hard
people remember when the game was actually challenging
that's what the people want
The levels got buffed a bit, but can't compensate other stuffs
alpha
devs are doing the ramping up in difficulty from each rundown
R3 isn't even close to R2 difficulty granted that might be because of certain guns we have now
That's mainly because of lacking E-tier
The D-tier still fine
"IT'S NOT THE SAME AS OG ANYMORE"
R3D1 might actually be challenging if BC didn't exist
BC is not the single culprit
true, but it's the worst offender
the room layouts for some of the rooms just made scans inherently easier
because of the fact that you can funnel very easily
not to the extent that you can do it now
but you can
XD
d1 had easier funneling in og
class 5 to go to the baby room you just funnel small door
warden door you just slap two ss on each ladder
hell you can cfoam that ladder too
i played r3 a1 and a2 today and already dont remember them bro, barely remember a3 and thats because got a time freeze bug
foaming ladder doesn't exist in OG R3
sending a player from now, back in time, to play OG R3, and they'll be like God among player
With combat shotgun
now they actually get to you instead of spending time doing ladder animations
i mean yeah thats how most game skill progression goes tbh
bc doesnt really do anything that any of the other weapons cant really do already. the fucked up bbc/hybrid zone can be cleared with hel rifle/gun and funnel, and pmom can be like half killed by sniper before the door even opens
also you can perma foam almost every alarm in that map as long as the lab doors dont bug out
fair enough
foam user self expose
they give you a shit load of tool
just like in the original!
stop my degenerate mind cant handle acronyms like bbc
right now is the good time where they can lower all the resources
Big Black Chargers
whatâs wrong
^
yes chargers clearly what was i thinking
basically, 1k hour player saying the game they played is ez
I brought a hel shotgun for R3D1
most gamer moment ever
was useless for most of the level
not even that tho, most of the playerbases skill is probably up there with the best players back in og r3
just as a result of harder levels existing
at least you got to clear baby, unless your team bring BC
burst cannon supreme
you basically become the father that never go to get milk then
since you're on baby duty

bro everyone hyping this gun up and i literally cannot use it without wasting most of its ammo
this is the way
back then people just burst cancel
so 2 - 3different gun in 1 gun
yeah used to be an exploit that made it stupidly OP
but not many understand it was patched
it can kill small efficiently, it can kill big efficiently, it can kill miniboss... efficiently
all i know is as it is now i literally cannot use it
i run out of ammo before i even start firing
you have the same exact reaction as people in og R3
"why burst, i waste so many ammo, useless gun"
and then the R4 incident

That is not the way
it looks like fun but man a burst of 5 is brutal for ammo efficiency
i feel way worse about full bursting 1 small compared to sniping 1 small to balance ammo idk why
tried bringing it on a3 just to realize i basically was limited to one weapon 
ammo aint a problem in that level tho
you're a chad, someones gotta be on baby duty
This gun is sh*t? How about we buff its damage...67%?
tbh, the devs react to people feedback
just do what my group does, panic and scatter
and it was a shitshow
Carbine: "rookie numbers"
I didnt take a single point of damage on pmom cos ryk was a chad
i mean, look at Carbine
that's why i like Minecraft Mob vote
Pablo in a nutshell
the gun wouldnt even need a glitch to not be insanely hard to use if its burst was 3 or 4 it would immediatly be less painful
captain alpha is actually the biggest 10C apologist
Agreed.
"the phantom is going to be so cool guys" snorts copium
also does burst canon have any recoil or am i crazy it feels like there is practically no recoil for a weapon named cannon
i mean, if you buff it "correctly" and people don't use it
isn't that a "fail"
very little recoil
less recoil than HAR lmao
make it make sense
makes the shots feel less powerful but at the same time if its gonna burst 5 so quickly recoil better be low
and the rifle can stagger enemy like pistol
i fucking love the idea of it having cannon like recoil and your basically looking straight up by the end of the burst
imagine if it had recoil so unless you had good control 4 shots just go into the ceiling
they killed my boi
The rifle is just an appropriately designed HAR? Outstanding.
just make the weapon completely unusable for anyone under 10000 dpi
you fire it and just instantly fall down
well no, the sniper one shot headshot buff put it in a good spot where it was a viable option for clearing giants and hybrids while having any semblance of skill expression
firing it does damage to you due to recoil
but then they decided to give sniper 17 + 3 bullets
wasnt it 18
might've been
rips your arm off for the rest of that run making you use only you other arm
it's pretty clear that levels don't get play tested anymore
since when cus its appeared that way since i started in r6
I'd love a "cannon tool" which is just one massive shot but it knocks you onto the floor for 5s and one shots whatever is in the way
or playtest by average player
try spamming the revolver
but revolver aint burst fire
close to around r6 they just purged all the bug hunters
yeah mainly talking about its recoil
they purge BH team and replace with QA
imo burst cannon should have burst fire of 3 rounds with higher recoil cannot change my mind
i heard there is 1 guy in Dev team that actually play the game
but don't know if he's around for this game anymore
can't have bugs if you can't see them 
true
and completely ignore the community
shoots a spread of explosive cannonballs like a super shotgun
don't need to game breaking bugs if you just close your eyes and ignore the bugs
If dev team could beat r7d1 with ovl in its current state without encountering a single bug id buy 10 copies of the game
"checkpoint bug doesn't exist"
- patch notes or something
they played it in LAN connection
having it do a spread feels kinda OP and just reminds me of Scattergun now
so they couldn't see the bug happen anyway
i get these bugs with bots bro
which one
room disappearing bug is the big one
you know how little that narrow down
regardless challenge (impossible)
R3 is as hard or harder on level by level basis imo
R2 is harder due to more stuff and R2E1 (also 2 d levels)
Yes but in that way: overall harder
if you are experienced. No
We did it without completely blind
We did without and pulled the rooms
you can't say you did it blind
since we're replaying old rundown

just one shot would be a little hard to guaranty a hit on an important enemy but it would be nice to one shot a pablo at the risk of leaving yourself open to attack for a few seconds. And it would be very loud to fire so it should wake up everything in a 3 room radius
are you sure he didn't download old rundown and play

but you did
it was a trend back in R4
r3 a2 extraction scan without killing the giants in the first room was probably the funniest blind moment yet
I trust his word
Shhhh
we told ourselves we where going to kill them melee when the fog was down
trust me bro
we in fact did not
more fun
15+3 yea
better part 2 of us where on 15% hp and i had 20% ammo in both guns after claiming "nah i dont need it"
the fact we survived is honestly a miracle
Never even watched a playthrough of it and everyone respected my wish and didnt talk of it
I was suprised as heck with the mom spawn on neonate and the error start
believable, mostly because most of r2 is kind of a pushover
fuck
haven't had a chance to play through r3 yet fwiw, all I've bothered to do is an r3a1 solo
ima just try and forget i saw that 
Tbf she just trying to save her baby. Are we the baddies?
I do like the little "lore" stuff prior to pmom
that alarm only spawns shooters and giants
kinda like protecting pmom
spoiler chat strike it next victim
wich was pretty cool
its fine i have the memory of a goldfish
like i said earlier ive already forgotten most of r3 that ive played
Did not even notice that
only remember the key moments
yeah but it kinda defeats the reason Pablo is in the game
...though making R7E1 about grabbing a weapon that can kill Pablo to destroy it
now that's kinda interesting
making the mega cannon an objective item
thats what some of my friends had as an idea to make r6d1 end fight cooler
make you assemble and use a objective item gun
i suggested it first
you all really entertaining the idea of a doom style mega cannon lmfao
it do be cooler than shooting 49 sniper shot
o wait theres no more suggestions 
it do be kek
email them pussie
send a mail
black dragon has already been blocked by them
Straight to spam đ
walk into the office and suggest it directly to a dev
unironically that would make R6D1 so much better
yeah but that was for some more "serious" matters than just been funny
if you suggest shit then it mark as spam
ez
better than discord suggestion then
Anyway
Im waiting for alt r4/r5 and people to say its easier, when the levels actually have slight buffs, because âstronger guns/toolsâ

And you know it !
r4 was balance around kiting
R4 when
we should start mass suggestion to the devs
telling that 1 dev that work on the game
to lower the resources
im waiting for it to come out so i can say r7 harder regardless of if i actually think r7 was harder or not and just to piss people off
Try no ammo against 3 scout waves and 2 rooms
But what if it's only obtainable in r8 on a level where you have 2 pablos on your ass at the same time
I mean sounds like R7E1 already lmao
nah, an r2 level. Can't remember whicj
no clue then because the r2 levels where boring as hell
but thats cus they where easy at my skill level lmfao
not really designed for people who have done shit like r7
it was a miracle that we survived and of course my recording software had to bug right before it happened so I have no evidence other than the 4 people that I played with who have probably forgotten it by now
damn
yeah one of my buddies went down then the bot revived him and he went down before he got back up fully so that was funny
i never left extract scan
i was dodging like a mad man since it was all i could do
this is a mood
i didnt even bother to record because its a pain in the ass and i didnt expect anything interesting to happen
I can't record anything anymore until I get a hard drive or get rid of all my other recordings
Easy
i even put the fuckin level it was on
yeah that'll do it
it did do it
that alone made the reactor part of the level not the most unfun thing ive ever done
the in game map is honestly trash the moment multiple floors are introduced
and these rooms had 3 man
i cant find the full map
im not willing to dig in the messages more for it because another group of friends was spamming visual novel pictures at the time
you are so dramatic. as soon as you see a reactor you start foaming at the mouth
gives me a mad case of brainbleed
Man I feel for you in R4
start slurrin my sentences and stumbling on stairs like a unnamed politician
đ I do think he likes reactors tho
lol
you prob right tbh
lmao
its 2023 and still offensive to most of the west to make fun of there favorite politician when i just make fun of all of em man
feels bad
Nah you can make fun of em all.
I mean "west politician" is extremely vague
West from where
my entire profile is a political statement and i dont even know what it is bro
i do know some people have gotten very unhappy
West of China is a BIG part of the world
I don't read that language
its the john xina ice cream advertisement
wait CCP supporters are the ones that got mad? đ
Fast and Furious 8*
yeah you right my bad
Dunno what it is
ill dm you
I know lots of people were mad about hogwarts legacy for some nonsensical reasons. that's the last controversy I saw
I love how Bing Chilling is the only thing I know about mandarin
yes icecream is the only mandarin word i know
based
apparently buying a product associates you with the political views of the products creator
So glad 10 chambers accepted my advice to put the big scout in r3
No they are a unanimously loved game studio
i give it a few years
twitter will find something
I can't think of a game studio that is as universally acclaimed by its playerbase as 10 chambers
That's a dumb way of thinking
yeah there was a video someone made commenting on that situation
Apparently the R word is not allowed
extremely
Rowling or Reeeetord
Rigatoni
most people refuse to play the hogwarts game because the creator is anti trans, i refuse to play the hogwarts game because it has british people we are not the same
the second
Its so funny how the opinion on this matter are completely day and night from another channel in this server xD
this very topic was discussed a few days ago
Dumb AF
10 chamber should cause some controversy
the first part. the british part is legit
the more american or european a chat is the more progressive they tend to be
disappointing tbh
"10C dev says Call of Duty has gone woke"
American mostly, but some european specimens exist
got a friend who lives in the uk but claims he aint british because he wasnt born there but now he is playing the hogwarts game and idk who to trust
the best way is saying trans woman shouldn't be in woman public bathroom when they still have their pp

even then a lot of "let's gatekeep this video game" trends always fail
people will buy it anyway lmao
man it reminds me of the factorio controversy
gtfo spoiler chat
the game got the largest influx of new players ever when it happened
playerbase: "where's our bathroom tiles!1!1!1"
Let's buy the Items that support this game and burn it
oh yeah this is very off topic lmfao
you want sum cancel?
i'm still on topic, i'm talking about 10c
yes
oh god flashbacks to people spending 10 grand on Diablo Immortal to prove how P2W it is
i dont care for politics and my political stance is the opposite of whoever i argue with
being this way has made me learn that both stances are usually completely stupid and no one should give a shit
but here we are not buying games based on if the game is fun
so, is the game fun?

so real
anyways i got a really bad migraine from playing a3 8 hours ago so ima hop off
wave 5 moment
Gets good reviews. I Def buying it
unfortunately, i'm bad at literature
devs never update the game 10/10
i just played r3d1 for the first time and holy ive never seen so many enemies before
?
You mean types on a level?
pertaining to the end of the level
i thought the mother was just it but no there were more behind the extraction door
Ah in that way. Fair enough
Most enemies Iâve seen behind a blood door probably
either that or r6d2
Surge blood door
your mom's bedroom like


does r3c1 have mothers or did the doors play mother sound for no reason
no reason
it's just a jumpscare
ill get my eardrums checked after this
gay liberal propaganda strikes again
those god damned liberals
lore purpose
Pmom roar from D1 to C1
It sounds like you jumped
phnom penh roar
yeah đ¤ˇââď¸
what do ppl think of the resource zone in r3c1 btw
Have not had the need to use it yet
They changed it?
I have no idea what it was originally but that shit was packed and it was funny af
sounds like the original
also yeah I expected the level to be much harder, we finished the level 100s all around so defo didnt need it
Original was packed AF, just 2 rooms and 1 scout iirc
exploring was fun though
or 2
ye its the same then, was only1 scout
first room was tiny and probably had enough to spawn cap
Iirc 2nd room was smaller in OG
meaby they flipped the zone? dunno
i mean not every mission is about ressource scarcity
definetly felt like the ending was the thing to watch out for
yeah I was aware what the ending was when we played, I expected my group to die at least once but it was a lot more manageable than I thought
Old resources room was the exact same except for rng scout iirc
could have 2 or just 1
both rooms are pretty much the same size
Markers are different tho
I love how in R3A2 there was 2 scouts behind 2 of the 3 blood doors
Just like the original 

whats with the spitters in 128
who decided to put 3 spitters in a zone with 10 rooms
the treasure hunt
"What was R3 missing ?"
"Spitters."
levels đ
nasty wake up call with hybrids in the first level, The extraction alarm made it sound like just shooters at first, and i decided a HEL gun would be fun to try out. Carrying the neonate to extraction with a lot of VERY pissed off hybrids was quite an experiance. however the drop crate acted a bit like a shield to me.
Hmm.. i thought it was a perma spawn thing like extraction alarms. rifle and Hel gun were NOT the best solution though.
That's what I ran and it shredded everything
More like extraction alarm thankfully.
Don't know, never used it before. But its definitely longer for my tastes.
They didnt change anything from r4-r5
The three diverse sentries vs blood doors is a very funny setup.
Anyway...
HEL Rifle is cool. HCP with a scope. The charge up is kinda annoying though, despite the shortness of it - caused me to miss a mag worth of shots for sure, so HCP still wins as being a reliable conventional guy that just shoots.
Damn just under an hour
Average gtfo bot lobby
TFW allergic to shift
Got skill checked by R3A3 badly. Bots are... Not great when it comes to time-sensitive objectives.
Turrets collectively ran out of ammo after 2/6 and i couldn't find a single tool refill to save my life while rushing to find code terminals.
3/6 had to be done effectively without tool and for 4/6 i found like one pack. Thanks.
And when i did find the tool refill haven - the fucking bots refused to pick up any of it and i had no time to do resource distribution myself.
Somehow, some-fucking-how, made it through 5/6, but completely ran out of ammo while at it.
Ran for my life to find the final code and... The fucking door had an alarm on it. Of course it fucking did. Only realised after i pulled the lever.
The screenshot explains the rest.
Oh and i had to redo 4/6 because i decided to read the deepest lore log with 30 seconds on the clock. For what its worth - i wouldn't make it back in time anyway. Might also explain where my ammo went.
fight on soldier
man 58 minutes your time be wildin
bots really do be out here making everything take significantly longer
â
Must stealth everything myself
â
Must search everything myself
â
Must loot everything myself
Can't even ask the bastards to -T ping something for me
yeah i think my full finished run was 33 minutes and we didnt put any codes in until the last 10 seconds to maximize resource collection
imagine not missing a code because the person by the terminal is in the bathroom
couldnt be me
we played the level 3 times total first game we lost because one of my team members just said aight ima take a shit and left on wave 4, 2nd time we lost cus bug lmfao
one of our players was a bot and it was the wave with 2 hybrids and 3 giants at once
i got over run because i was alone defending the hybrid side
not a shot in hell i was doing that
I soloed it with bots but it was rough. The last code I had to put in may or may not have been me sprinting towards 3 giants beating the crap out of Bishop while he tried to res Dauda and Hackett all so I could put in the code, book it to extract, and hope I could hold out.
Oh right. This made me realise how truly stupid bots are.
Healing me in the middle of a fight against 2 hybrids and like 10 smalls while consistently running into my line of fire are some galaxy brain moves, jesus
They're just trying to make sure you stay at full health
Unlike when they just randomly decide to shoot through you to hit an enemy which is weird they'd even be allowed to do friendly fire damage.
XCOM rules
Enemies die first
Heals and other shit can be done later while reinforcements are over the horizon
this is the same game you can be holding a shotgun to the aliens face and have a 99.9% chance to hit and miss 100% of the time
so honestly yeah pretty accurate game to compare to gtfo
The best is when they're so close to the enemy with a rifle or something that the only way for the game to figure out how to make the shots visibily miss is to have them come out literally sideways
Funnily enough though I remember watching a video about displayed rng percentages in video games and even XCOM actually tells you your chance to hit is lower than it actually is so it feels better
all i know is at under 10 ft away im a better shot than any xcom character but anywhere farther im a significantly worse shot
and its sad

Just like me when I switch to my shotgun
And the sway bug is like
"No. You will shoot the floor instead of the enemy lined up with your crosshairs"
man now i wanna replay xcom but another part of me is like no dont
Replay XCOM: enemy within on ironman and get critted constantly by thin men until you lose more rookies then you're training and then rage quit the game bc of it!
This feels like me except Iâm an opposite. Great at range, crap at close range (yes I sometimes accidentally waste a sniper round on a striker)
Anyone getting a weird thing where sentry is shooting through a door, and cfoam goes through the door, but the door can still be broken down by enemies?
ive had cfoam go through a door but never something like that
Happened on 3 separate doors. Oh well, will just blame it on cursed lobby
I've seen it before a couple times
I think the only levels I can remember it from are R1B2 and one of the R3 levels... R3D1?
Yeah, was happening to me non-stop yesterday.
Either it's a new issue or it was that particular host.
Seen it like all the time on r3d1 at least
Same with foam going through doors on d1. 
biased data cause you only play d3d1
anyone fallen through the floor on D1 yet?
Itâs true
I have 39 completions team
No lol
should be a fun challenge 
Itâs boring tho
have you done one where you have fun yet
thats never gonna happen and you know it
should be a fun challenge
Maybe Iâll have fun if you play it with me
have you done it without any hel weapons or BC

Iâve done it with bullpup precision
sorry i only play r2d1
ny brother was playing on my account
wow ur brother is weird then
yea i think hes a skinwalker

imposter

some weird things happens on the missions
did you see him vent
those injectors man they do some odd stuff...
what am I even looking at
What is the range of the burst cannon before damage falloff starts?
15
Thanks
every time i played r7d1 this kinda shit happened
just a certified d1 moment
real
all of these where the same run is the funny part
i gotta say the phantom backwards boxes was the funniest one
actually retract that the box image was from a practice run, the levels not entirely broken
@velvet linden go r2d1, we play it a lot)

R3 is kinda small but it's more levels that aren't modded
I kinda like all R3 maps with the exception of A2 tbh
but so long to make xD
than another
it was done WEEKS before they released it
it's cause they need to finish the next next rundown before releasing the next one
also they need to not release the alts too fast cause they trrying to fix checkpoints and failing.
this gives them more time to fix
ugh why is a3 so funky with bots
everyone says its easy but i just arrived at the fifth code after like 5 tries skmdk
I actually did it with bots and didnt have any issue
aside from MAYBE barely reaching the fifth terminal
What issues you having?
uh i get
overwhelmed ksmdk
maybe its the tools- maybe im usin the wrong ones
which sentries u usin
that might b my problem cause i got bursts
im gonna try it out with snipers
which guns u had too
ik what to give the bots but which guns were u usin
I think I had carbine/hel gun
Only issue was that sometimes the bots refused to shoot or wanted to heal/ammo me in the middle of the wave but whatever
It was annoying but I still did it
the peril of the 5th wave
we want more maps on r3)
yeah true
it's what Minecraft does with it's yearly updates
if you push content over polish you end up like PUBG
lmao i had those exact guns AAAAAA
so you're saying... skill issue?
skill issue, adapt to bots
i try
meanwhile I'm gonna question why the only benefit of HAR over Rifle. is the mag size.
(aside from full auto)
Larger mag size + full auto means that in a pinch it can take the crowd control role usually handled by machine guns if needed.
Also it has a blue sight whereas the rifle has green. To some people like me that is a benefit in itself. I don't use guns that don't have blue or white sights.
sight preference
Currently running HEL Revolver and Burst Cannon.
same
what using old World War T sniper scopes does
So here's a question - do corpses block bullets? So let's say there are five enemies coming at me in a perfectly straight line. Can I kill all of them with a single Burst Cannon burst if the first enemy is blocking the view of the rest? I know that HEL Rifle would be better in this case, but I am not interested in running it.
im pretty sure corpses dont have uhh idk what the word was
but yeah i dont think they stop bullets
Nice.
an easy test would be killing a sleepin one, and then just shootin it and seein if the bullets hit the floor
but judging by how a melee weapon just hits the floor
yeah
they do
they do?
I can tell you. there is a specific mod that makes it so their bodies don't block bullets like that
i was so sure they didnt
Hmm. I guess if I manage to pop the heads it'll work better, since the empty space left by the lack of head won't block bullets.
weird
Good to know though, thanks.
it's hardly noticeable and if it did. it'd make swarm clear easier/hel weapons lose some potential but not much
if anything machine guns can mow through swarms much easier after killing one enemy and immediately hitting the enemy behind them
vs some shots hitting the corpse
mag size, efficiency (ammo per refill)
it does have actually worse stagger tho :I (idk why the fuck they gave rifle a huge stagger multi)
I think when firing on swarms the Burst Cannon might be best used while standing up or from a bit higher up unlike HEL guns. That way one can swipe vertically upwards over the swarm with the burst and not hit the same enemy twice.
ye which is why I only stated mag size mostly
mag size is different from refill size
full auto with it's recoil is down to player skill though
are we talking about The Rifle? The semi-auto one?
those bad naming conventions coming in again
and yeah techincally har would refill iirc
a mag and a half?
roughly from memory
or was it 2 mags
1 mag and 17
ye
since 30 bullets and 47 refill
so a mag and a little over half
did the har had 32 or 30 bullets per mag?
but aside from ammo efficiency Rifle is basically a HAR
the 25m range scares me a bit as well
I was thinking 20m
25m?
rifle has 25m
damn
I wonder if the DTR should get the special weapon treatment like HAR did.
pistol at 6 be like (misstyped, thx)
i think its still 6*
I was about to say
Making it 4 would fucking kill it
There would be no reason to pick it over either hel rifle or choker
choker is basically same thing, only for lazy people who don't want to ADS
choker sounds so funk
call it by its name >:b /lh
too long and i think its a cool nickname
and none of you had failed to realise what i'm reffering to yet
How many burst cannon bullets does it take to kill a charger?
honestly i have no idea
i think it should be 2
each bullet of burst cannon does 20
Choke Mode Shotgun
u dont aim with it?
Choker, for short
not with ADS, no
There's no reason. The spread is the same either way.
I'm positive it was obvious but you do you
yes but
ah well i guess
and technically I will ADS swapping to it because FUCKIN sway bug exists
im just bad at guns
Its the bigger "fuck off" gun than even the HCP
You just point it at the main body mass
Burst Cannon has entered the room
If target doesn't die immediately - you either do a double take, or switch to low-risk main to finish it off with a pistol shot or something
nah, burst cannon is too specizlied
Its worthless against smalls
specialized lol.
Skill issue :)
special ice
hey, i tried spraying at hordes
corpses block bullet all the same
i get like 2 kills, maybe 3 at best
for 5 bullets that i have to dispense
That's why you stand up or fire from an elevated position
you need positioning / enemies to be horizontal of each other (basically not lined up to block shots)
It is very satisfying to get five death markers in less than a second.
It is actually better if they are vertical.
THE OVEN-- ah
just easier that way
i just realised i havent took a single non-ADS burst
horizontal though is possible
Yeah, a lot harder to time correctly though in my experience.
ye
charge time increase has fucked my timing with it
the funniest thing I've done is hammer a giant front and burst em in the back
Sadly it can no longer one burst giants to the chest, so I'll have to dump my HEL Revolver after a single burst.
hel revo should only need 3 shots to the front
if my math is correct
not including if any of the shots are a headshot
Oh, do shadow giants have a larger health pool?
no
Hmm
shadow giants
Might have missed a bullet from the burst a few times then.
crouched / leaning
this also means they are slightly faster
because remember. big shooters don't have melee animations
I did notice their much faster attacks when I completed R2E1 yesterday.
movement wise as well technically
overall shadow giants are scary
especially in groups
They are a real nuiscance. Flashbacks to R5D1.

That's a level that I would gladly get a few checkpoints on. It took us four hours for the successful clear with the additional objective.
So far it is the longest level I have ever played.
Hopefully the newbies play the rundowns in order so there will be some sense of difficulty and complexity progression for them.

most get upset why it goes 1-2-3 > skips to 7
and then I have to go on explaining it
i suggested the [t oldrundowns] command explained it
but ive been checkin and it hasnt changed at all
theres
.t rundown
For information on what the Rundowns are and how they work, take a look at this video: https://gtfo.gl/rundown
When your team is dropped into the Complex, you enter the Rundown. Itâs a sequence of expeditions where you fill the work order issued by the Warden, the unknown entity holding you captive. Survive all the expeditions to complete your mission and clear the Rundown. Of course, the further down you go into this abandoned research facility, the tou...
@broken scarab The Discord server needs an update to "oldrundowns" bot commands for quick explanations. The current one is outdated, as seen above. Can someone look into this? I would do it myself, but you know...
Theres also examples in #bot-commands

shit desynch happened again and botched a r1c1
door closed behind, noone can open it, the end
Bro tf is this?
I guess the tank? Or some scraped early access enemy
A charger without the black goop
Oh
It's what they slap on a strikers body to make the bullrush
3 hoods in a row, lmao
that's the one for finishing R3
Yep, which just happened to coincide with getting Hackett's signature hood twice in a row.
Bumrushed the whole thing in a day courtesy of Ivan and... Rhytmen? Rhymen? Something among those lines.
6 new masks and 2 colour palettes. Not a single new backpack or vest.
Out of them i really liked only 2: the DECON First Response over there, cute thing.
And a pure black palette with white accents. Very SWAT inspired, it seems.
cant wait to see the increased drop count for R3A3 now that it has an rng scout
the replayability community will love this
A3 keeps winning
bro where is there a scout

its the 3rd zone
Wait, isn't the 3rd code zone always has a scout?
i fucking knew they moved a little different
damn that explains why i missed so much
a3 is easier r2d2 and i love it
hybrids are still annoying af 'cause there's no cover in the entire reactor room
Dont⌠hold in reactor room?
Hold at spawn yes
too late lmao
did the level but it was probably harder than it needed to be
Can't wait for everyone to hold at spawn again in r4d1
you can see it clearly with thermal optics
and here I thought your IQ couldn't get lower
gave bots burst canon
sounds like they can burst cancel if the target die during fire
wesley be like
h-hacks??
can just hold in the back corner that doesnt have a door atleast thats what my group did in a3
i mean you can hold on the bridge or later even where the alarm scan is
hes shy

we considered it but decided fighting on our back and front end was way harder than just our left and right
ocassionally straight infront of us
its not a particularly hard level tho and it prob would have been pretty easy to do a chaos strat just defending the center of the reactor
no R4 made the server dead
anyone else experienced like 8 chargers per error wave on C1?
idk if they somehow stacked up or we got bugged
I played the level 2 days ago and the error had like maybe 4 chargers? but today we got double that each wave
đ
||we won so it's ok||
afaik it ramps up?
I had the impression that the extraction starts another alarm, kinda like R1B2's
But yeah maybe it just ramps up
wait long enough for 24 chargers
2 if ur good enough
might even be below 1 hour if cracked and lucky
tho, tbh with a3 prob not
I did it in 3 
I did it in 10 minutes
sure you did
2.56 đ
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average LFG R3D1 experience
guy sprints trough charger zone
trigger scout
wipe
mfw
which D1 out of many
They did say R3D1. đ
Not originally.
... There were chargers in R3D1? Or a scout, for that matter? God, i don't remember anything between the first large room and the finale
New R3D1 has Bullrush Scouts and big/regular bullrushes
oh right, i think there was one...
After that PANIC bit
Right, right, riiiight now i remember
...
Why did he sprint into that?
Big brain
I will cut your penis off

That's it you don't get to play anymore gtfo ever again, uninstall the game and think about what you've done
s
I killed Pablo 0.o @rigid zinc
boostera smh
is pmom sleeping if you dont shoot her through the door
I wouldnt know cos there hasnt been a single time where someone hasnt shot her through the door
insta-wake
Yea I always wait so the fight doesn't start with half her HP gone
so might as well shoot her through the door then 
bring 4 snipers and never let her wake up 
YES
its just good clean livin
There's like a 5 second delay.
Yes.
You have enough time to walk up close before you start fighting.
gotcha
Depends on if you value CQC vs. getting that initial damage.
I mean you can get a hel/combat shotgun under her before she births regardless so I'll just do the funni anyway
it's pretty easy guys
High ping vs tumors means you can damage past the tumor hp cap
So as an Australian client gamer you should always prioritize high bursts of damage on a single tumor
Spreading shots is for uncertainty on if a tumor might break or not and is an equally useful strat for clients but mandatory for hosts
hey guys, who wants to bet that when we get aR4E1, ||the error has the snatcher bug from R7D1ovl?|| ||and its 3-4 tanks every wave||
The error isn't done through a terminal command
true we haven't had levels that start with error alarms behave badly yet have we?
this is good to know thank you
its spoiler channel no need to put stuff under hidden ;3
I'm still amazed how such a bug still present
Like I know some bugs are unsquishable but come on
How hard it is to make sure only 1 guy spawns and not 4
pretty hard
- 10C devs
bold of you to assume they tried to fix it
on R7C1, does the ||alarm in the snatcher room|| ever stop or do you just need to extract
you gotta GTFO, one could say
Depends on how reproducible it is, and the solution risks
The hard part about it is the snatchers waves are each individual spawn events. (This is probably to make sure the snatchers donât get deactivate alarm canceled).
snatcher spawn event on overload object completion
Would probably just fix it I would need to check tho
I mean, my understanding is it's just how terminal events are handled on client.
The individual spawn events are a problem for the checkpoint deleting them, though.
Same issue in R6C3 if I had to guess.
Right, but it's only related to the checkpoint bug.
Presumably any terminal wave could dupe.
Handled as an evcent*
Rayalot
You remember the "revolver obsolete?" reddit post? Theres a very interesting comment about guns on there 
You just keep the same wave event
Just move its condition
To overload completion
Probs would fix it @hexed vapor should we test it
WE WON C1 FINALLY YYYEAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Nice stuff dude
hopefully thats the hardest one... surley
:)
Surely
There canât be anything harder :)
DJ
Donât do it
After C1 is where the game takes it's gloves off m8
globes fr
I'm not spoiling
Ofc Ofc but I couldnât let you cook there
we just had a 3 hour session on this crap
Ah yes. true from now on it's a walk in the park
Like you could have gone of
Sorry for the misinformation
thankfully it seems the game is easy now
If we tell you our time on R7C1 you gon have a heart attack bruv
Keep spreading it
shoot
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