gtfo-spoiler-chat

[mellow creek]

damn it

why is e1 so easy

[atomic escarp]

why are you so good

[twin dirge]

if it's R2 then yeah it's the easiest E1

[pliant pasture]

i hear they are going to add F1 to this game

dod tou think they will remove stamina once we get the harder F1 racing tracks?

[nocturne flax]

F1 its gonma be either old E1 difficulty or super tedious to play

They either have to add a new mechanic to make it interesting

[pliant pasture]

do you think going 150 mph will be tedious? once we are going that fast on F1 racing missions wipes will only take a couple minutes, and successful runs will only take a couple more

[olive shoal]

What about an immortal mother

That’s a great new mechanic!

[nocturne flax]

More interesting than the current inmortal not gonna lie

[olive shoal]

True

[nocturne flax]

Just increase the time in between birthing to keep it balance

And you good

I hate inmortal

[olive shoal]

don’t we all

[mortal portal]

Immortal mother with immortal babies

Not gonna lie, I was actually thinking of making an immortal shooter in my modded rundown, just to mess with people

[twin dirge]

THIS TBH

[turbid cliff]

yeah, a walking wave spawner, just that it will never approach if you position yourself correctly

hell it's harder to have it approach

[deft kiln]

Honestly I wanted the immortal to be a fast scout that just shoot tendrils out druing scans that will just to run into you to spawn more enemies

Be so funnny jumping over scout feelers during high scan action and avoiding tongues

[pliant pasture]

ohhh a mr. X that spawns waves sounds super cool

but will it get trapped behind closed doors? as a scout that can scream but never 'wake up' itself

[deft kiln]

I personally would just make it instant kill doors and insane speed unless in a room with someone

But that is just to stop some lame methods

[nocturne flax]

Better than the walking tongue hitscan

That just bee lines into your position

[nocturne flax]

Make it move like a normal.shooter and we set

[deft kiln]

Ah yeah I see

[turbid cliff]

it fucking sucks either way

if they can't make something that moves properly then just add slenderman

[pliant pasture]

or somethings that vents 👀

[fallow wasp]

In r8, if you fail any mission before C1, the game will install a 10TB zip bomb onto your computer and open it

[deft kiln]

Oh based

[upbeat patrol]

Whats your issue with hel guns? They have piercing and are great at crowd control.

[errant vigil]

Broken

[nocturne flax]

Broken

Im.not very fond of hel weaponry

Exept r3 hel weaponry

If we could turn back time to the good old days

[errant vigil]

Release Hel Revo

[mossy marsh]

hel sawed off when

[errant vigil]

When you learn the choke mod was supposed to have pen on release

[nocturne flax]

Ty sam

[errant vigil]

Rundown-Penetration

[past bough]

just download r3

[mossy marsh]

blegh

[deft kiln]

Hel guns could be balanced

But it needs big draw back to do so

Like hel gun being able to spam do high dmg and being fairly ammo efficient kinda insane

[wide lion]

why creator

no make command unstuck?!

if you stuck, only restart map help ypu

....

[mossy marsh]

ballin

[wide lion]

?

[nocturne flax]

Non reload canceable and making rhe charge up relevant would help

[wide lion]

no nut november over

[nocturne flax]

Smashing through the boundaries!

Lunacy has found me!

[fallow wasp]

Just had 3 of 4 scans of a surge alarm spawn on the same spot

god smiled on our bioscan

[royal lichen]

cannot stop the fog tur bine takata takata tää dää.. ?

[nocturne flax]

I love you

[real moss]

so you did clear it finally

[royal lichen]

u seriously a very cool dude in my book, rispekth \oo/_

[fallow wasp]

no

we died

it was in the last stretch

[real moss]

next run

I believe in you

and well you need to be focussed for R3 after this

[last gust]

what made r3 hel gun not good, btw?

[mortal granite]

R3 hel gun look balance

[last gust]

I'm looking at some of the old stats, and it seems like hel gun was balanced the way I've been saying they should nerf it

i.e. sub-15 damage, a bit less ammo

[mortal granite]

and it charge up slower

[last gust]

ah

[mortal granite]

you can't spam it

[mortal granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997660569224085524/1050339414594813975/french.mp4

[obtuse surge]

hel gun will be nerf

burst cannon will be buff

🌚

[nocturne flax]

Looks like it got answer already

But yeah it wanst too spameable

Damagw was pretty much revo

Pen 3 instead of 4?

More reasonable

Than whatever the fuck we have now

[mortal granite]

MG but pen 3

[last gust]

that all seems more reasonable, yeah

[nocturne flax]

Hel rifle its fine imo

Probably have slightly longer charge up but it already shoot slow enough

Saw off could.be buff to 30 damage, tighter spread

But helgun just too good

[errant vigil]

woah there

[last gust]

I'd take a round out of hel rifle's mag, and increase its bullet cost

[errant vigil]

Old HICal in primary

[last gust]

hel rifle is definitely too good right now

if you thought high cal overshadowed choke shotty, then oh man...

[nocturne flax]

4 in the mag? I think that was like that in r3

[last gust]

yeah in r3 it was 4

[obtuse surge]

increase hel rifle fire rate

and nerf everything else

cringe ass weapon

ok guys WAIT i'll shoot that guy in just a second

[nocturne flax]

Eh hel rifle dont shoot thst fast, but i see your point

[obtuse surge]

the chargeup is long enough

why does it have a cooldown afterwards too

dzfjpqofjqopfjqgf

[royal lichen]

2scouts1cup rifle, r u kidding? thats the best thing ever 🙂

[past bough]

yoo cry of fear?!?!

[mortal granite]

french

[obtuse surge]

fr*nch

[real moss]

yes ?

[mortal granite]

are you french

[real moss]

oui monsieur

[mortal granite]

time to bully dj

[real moss]

You can try 😏

[spark tiger]

Hmm R2 seems to be pretty easy tbh... Idk why people said it was the hardest rundown

R7C3 is much harder than R2E1.

[wet ravine]

simple. we have better equipment than back then on the r2 original release.

[real moss]

Who said R2 was the hardest rundown??

R5 has always been the hardest

[wet ravine]

People have their own thoughts

And yeah, R5 is the hardest of them all.

I still hate that rundown.

[real moss]

I mean 99% will say R5 is the hardest. can't see R2 being that

[wet ravine]

Well there's 1% of them all

[real moss]

R4 is also harder than R2. (And than R7 btw)

[wet ravine]

[real moss]

Yeah and we also have people who want a medium difficulty in the game or permanent saves ......

[wet ravine]

And grenades...

[real moss]

Those should be shunned and sent into the cold dark woods

[real moss]

Consensus was always: Top 3 hardest rundowns 1. R5 2. R4 3. R7

R2 is 4th

[atomic escarp]

r3 easier than r2?

sadge

I want difficult content

||sure i could play modded but cbf||

[real moss]

R3 is easiest after R1

[atomic escarp]

wow

[real moss]

So yeah 😅

[atomic escarp]

that is unfortunate

[real moss]

And very short as well

3A 2B 1C and 1D

[atomic escarp]

oh rip

thats boring

[real moss]

Eh

I 'm mostly waiting for R4 and R5 as well

[real moss]

my beloved

[atomic escarp]

I hope they don't nerf them too much

[real moss]

😭

seeing how they nerfed R2 😔

We can only expect the same

It will still be a lot of content tho.

R4: 12 levels 12 secondaries 😅

[atomic escarp]

:D

[real moss]

and 7 overloads iirc

[atomic escarp]

[hoary musk]

R2 kicked my ass back then. I couldnt get past C1. unnerfed shadows, crappy guns, and generally being new at the game. R1 did not prepare for R2 🙂
Currently getting through altR2 pretty smoothly as well

[mortal granite]

piercing weapon was a mistake

[real moss]

R2 was nerfed yeah.

Could even say that Alt R2E1 is now the easiest E level

[robust marsh]

its funny cause even if they didn't nerf it it would still be one of the easiest

considering playerbase skill level

[mellow creek]

dis is just sadd

was hoping for some challenge after waiting for new rd after having a son had another son

[quasi timber]

Тут вообще русские есть?

[real moss]

"new" 😂

[real moss]

OG R2E1 was considered harder than R7E1 tho. 🤔

Altho it's mostly less weapons and shitty mines in OG R2 that do that

[robust marsh]

yes

[mellow creek]

og r2e1 was the hardest

if there is no kiting

infinite increasing s1 error alarms

[mortal granite]

it wasn't infinite

with the more skillful player like now, without stamina, you can just tell 2 guys to just stop that error alarm while other 2 just clear rooms

[real moss]

No R4E1 by far

[real moss]

basically yeah

[mortal granite]

the only hard part on r2e1 is the random error alarm

but even that happen, you can just... shoot

[real moss]

shooting is so underrated in this game

[hexed vapor]

I dunno how to break this to you, but R2E1 was never all that hard.

If you want to argue compared to R7E1, sure, but it's not really near R4E1 or R5E1.

[chilly prairie]

Hmm

[twin dirge]

R2 seems to be nostalgically hard

since everyone was terrible at the game

[hexed vapor]

It was just so much more than R1.

[real moss]

pretty much

[mortal granite]

it was a better R1

and that's it

i know it's nostalgia but come on

[hexed vapor]

It's kind of like how R4B2 Overload is commonly cited as being a very hard objective.

It really isn't.

But, if you weren't very good at the game during R4, and that was the first Overload you encountered.

[mortal granite]

most of r4 look like a drag out mission if you do any additional objective

[real moss]

It was a step up tho

[hexed vapor]

It would absolutely shit on you, so people remember getting shit on without realizing they were progressing over a difficulty curve that they are now over for all of the other content they're playing.

Yeah, it's a proper Overload.

[real moss]

Great level btw R4B2

[hexed vapor]

Just, it's nothing that groundbreaking.

[real moss]

with fog going down instead of up was it?

or up instead of down

[hexed vapor]

It'd start high, fall, and then flip after 2 cells.

Basically gives you the illusion that it's a layer with a set width that goes below you.

[atomic escarp]

djdna play d1 with me

[real moss]

Bruv Am working rite now

meaby this evening. But what time would it be down under?

[atomic escarp]

10 pm

whats the time for u

[real moss]

13:00

well 13:35

but hey

[atomic escarp]

I'll prob be asleep by then

[real moss]

probs more luck on weekends I guess

[spark tiger]

Well R4B2 running blind was tough. Put the wrong cell in and you can't see anything 😂

[atomic escarp]

[atomic escarp]

It should have been possible to do Overload without Extreme instead of forcing you to PE it

[hexed vapor]

True, fuck error alarms.

[atomic escarp]

I DO hate error alarms but my critique is more akin to letting players be familiar with the map itself

Then, eventually, they can choose to do it even harder

In order to know what was behind Overload you had to start the error alarm

While IMHO having it not locked behind Extreme would have improved the survival chances much more

[real moss]

Errors are one of the best mechanics bruv

what ya smokin?

[atomic escarp]

Don't know, DNA, to me it's either something that barely registers or stuff that's annoying more because of certain mechanics rather than the enemies themselves

Forward spawns are not fun and so isn't having to bonk 3-4 strikers while everyone else does something

Some part, like R6D3 "Error" felt like a chore

[real moss]

Errors separate teams from uncoordinated messes

[atomic escarp]

And again, to me it feels like something that kinda "forces" to know the map beforehand

[real moss]

that's it

[atomic escarp]

I know that failing is part of the experience but it still feels weird

[hexed vapor]

Tbh I still wish they had bigger error waves on longer timers.

R5B1 and R5B3 both did it pretty well imo.

Way more actual pressure.

[atomic escarp]

I mean, it usually boils down to some people bonking behind while the others clear/do stuff

[hexed vapor]

Hell, B3 showed that you could have a nearly two minute delay and it would still fucking destroy people that were utterly clueless.

[atomic escarp]

You can argue that things change if you need to do an alarm door but whatever

[real moss]

good teams can still first try

[atomic escarp]

You could also argue that some stuff like R6C3 is more interesting than that

[atomic escarp]

I know but it still boggles me how big the difference is between knowing where to go and where not to

[mortal granite]

what is r6c3 again?

[real moss]

that's why I push players to master terminals

[atomic escarp]

error at the start, overload is a command on a terminal then kill/skip a tank for bulk key

Extreme was getting 3 (2 but whatever) cells

[real moss]

they tell you basically the whole mission

[atomic escarp]

Even knowing where the terminal itself is, makes a big difference IMHO

[mortal granite]

nah doesn't ring a bell

[real moss]

there is always one in first zone

[real moss]

yeah but you... ..

well you

[mortal granite]

nooooooooo warden objective

i didn't like that one

[real moss]

it was pretty good tho

a better R5B4

[mortal granite]

i just don't like mission that has a timer

somehow like r7c3

[prisma zodiac]

They stress me the fuck out

when i drop and theres a timer

[real moss]

R7C3 is great yeah 😃

love it more and more

[hexed vapor]

The best thing about the timer for Main only is that it fucks with people's mental.

People are trying to get to the locked door as fast as possible.

Just to defend at it for 5 straight minutes.

[real moss]

never done main only tho 😅

[hexed vapor]

Main only is so chill, lol.

You just "solo" the wave.

By chilling at a door w/ mine deployer.

[real moss]

yeah but my numbers ..... 👉👈

[hexed vapor]

While you convince your team to slow down a little.

Smh

[past bough]

"omg gtfo is scary"

[twin dirge]

I think it's in part of getting desensitized to this game

[deft kiln]

The only thing that has freaked me out in gtfo are the modded cave geomorphology I hate them so much I hate it

[distant chasm]

I love dying on r2d2 due to the terminal bugging on the last wave

hmm yes i love these old fucking bugs

[pliant pasture]

but nostalgia feels good, right?

[pliant pasture]

honestly there are a few things that still give me the heebie-jeebies, i truly like the horror design in this game.

but what can scare you when you have the hammer of god tho?

not much lol

[deft kiln]

yeah it is why i use knife now

so I can be a tiny petite prisoner

[past bough]

londoner

[deft kiln]

very much so it feels good being in the heart lane

land

[pliant pasture]

the sun never sets on the knife goth empire

[west umbra]

terminal bugging?

[robust marsh]

he wasn't there on R2 i dont think

[west umbra]

did u finish R2 yet?

[robust marsh]

nope

[west umbra]

which level u at?

[robust marsh]

D2-E1-C2

[west umbra]

ahhhhhh i see

still stuck at D1 XD

[robust marsh]

sad

i had infection immunity in D1

so it was easy for me

[west umbra]

the blood doors are so cheeky

putting scouts behind them

[pliant pasture]

honestly? blood doors with scouts behind them feel really frustrating to me

if i let myself think about it, i probably will get genuinely mad and annoyed by it

[robust marsh]

its called shoot it before it screams

if you shoot it as the blood door is opening

you can kill it

with that big of a buffer you can kill it with any special weapon other than combat shotgun

what you need to do is ask bio tracker to tag it

and look where it goes

when it starts repeating the pattern again

find a good time to open door

so you can see it as the door is opening

sniper is best for this job

• chockmod shotgun

[drifting lichen]

so big 🧠

[robust marsh]

hell you can prop do it with burst rifle

if you land 2 burst or 3

from behind or side

[pliant pasture]

i know its not hard, i am not saying its unfair or wrong

i just

[robust marsh]

get annoyed?

[pliant pasture]

don't like it

[robust marsh]

yeah i feel you

but what can you do other than adept

[pliant pasture]

mald

then adapt

lol

[robust marsh]

there was a time that error waves spawned infront of you

so they would spawn in scout rooms

and wake them up

before you could do anything

it was very annoying

idk why i said that

just felt like it

i shall leave now

[pliant pasture]

it is relavant

thank you for your wisdom

it did use to be 5 miles, uphill both ways

[robust marsh]

...

with one foot

[pliant pasture]

bhahaha, nah, you do that bu choice with your

extracurriculars

[vestal lance]

Scouts behind blood doors? Just dont mine the blood door, mine a door one room back

Problem solved

[pliant pasture]

but, but, but, what about the funny spot under the hinge?

am i supposed to do something that is much better strategically, but not kinda funny in a microscopic way?

no, it is the children who are out of touch

[vestal lance]

[wary olive]

I thought mines don't wake up scouts behind blood doors

E.g. R6D2 error zone blood door with charger scout behind it

[pliant pasture]

once the door is fully open, its just another open doorway, no?

[obtuse cedar]

they don't wake them up unless an enemy scream in there/shots are fired or the mine triggered the scout due to proximity

[pliant pasture]

wait, are mines mechanically silent?? i must be misreading that
because the rest of the room wakes up

[royal lichen]

all player proximity

[pliant pasture]

oh ya, but i mean waking up the rest of the room will triger the scout

just on a 2 second delay

[royal lichen]

scoot back far enough and get ready to pull again when done

[obtuse cedar]

you can do silent blood door kill

[royal lichen]

even close to the door with mine, sleepers snore

[obtuse cedar]

you can even snipe a scout when the door is opening before the enemies get blown off by the mine

this is just how stupid the game is sometimes

[knotty barn]

is scouts walking outside of their zone a new thing?

[deft kiln]

?

[knotty barn]

I had a scout just walk over through a door into a zone I already cleared oO

[errant vigil]

Haven't seen that in a while. An old R3 tile was able to do that and it was neat

[knotty barn]

happend to me just now R2D1

[errant vigil]

It's a specific tile that it happens on rarely

What zone if you can recall

[knotty barn]

scout was living in zone Z611B and just walked through the open door into zone Z611A

[deft kiln]

pretty funny

do you have a clip by chance

OlD rundown old bugs

huge

[knotty barn]

Straight through door 580

I mean, I don't mind if they would do that, I was nicely startled by it xD

[errant vigil]

Seems to be a thing with elevation in a tile

R3 on had something similar

It want to go up top an thinks going outside of the zone is faster

That one looks longer tho kek

[knotty barn]

yeah I figured something like that xD

[calm coral]

just had a host migration on R2D1

not fun

fog becomes higher than at the start

and stays there

every zone except 607 is fully fogged

and 608 I guess

[burnt goblet]

R2D1 seems to have the most problems xD

2/3 of my runs on there were bugged and had issues

[royal lichen]

spitter misery.

[knotty barn]

also is R2C1 supposed to have poison fog? xD

a lot of desinfection and fog repelling in there, and never have I seen poison fog xD

[calm coral]

yeah we had a guy leave, a host migration into a fully infectious map, and then we all got downed by one spitter blast

feels bad

[calm coral]

yes I think so

but very little

mainly spitters

as a source of infection

I believe

[nocturne flax]

No infectious fog only spitter

just like the og

[obtuse surge]

they still have the scout rng behind the blood door for it

glad they kept the replayability

[nocturne flax]

Trying to stay faithful to the original

[narrow gulch]

is the last/farthest in uplink supposed to have 1 zone spawns in r2c1

[fallow wasp]

Just laid down my cargo in r2A1 and the floor ate the cargo

Mega brain fix, tell a bot to pick it up and they just vacuum it

[fringe surge]

Did the og r2 d1 also have poison fog?

[jolly perch]

yes

[fringe surge]

Welp
Infection monkey gaming it is

20% hp is infinite

[paper harness]

The og r2d1 fog zones were a lot worse

And the cell spawns I think were always towards the back as well

[real moss]

Uplink Spawns are always tied to the zone you in

[narrow gulch]

Ah, that makes more sense

[fringe surge]

Most of our cells were also at the back

I think we got lucky with one

[mortal granite]

finally finished r2e1 alt

it got a little nerf at the end but overall, 90% same-ish to the original

it's a shame that, because they fixed the enemy distribution bug in R5, it unintentionally nerf the amount of enemy spawn in r2e1

[twin dirge]

yeah it's not an easy level for sure

but for an E level, it felt easier than some of the R7 C levels

[mortal granite]

well, it doesn't have that much variety enemy since it is Rundown 2

and they didn't change the rng error alarm

[real moss]

Enemy spawn nerf will be biggest nerf for old rundowns

[prisma zodiac]

in full PE maybe

Then again, same goes for r7e1 compared to r7c tiers

[mortal granite]

the fixed the bug that spawn too many enemy

but the side effect is the other rundown will get affected

[mortal granite]

r7e1 is really tight on resources

[prisma zodiac]

Yeah. And before alt r2 people raved about how that doesnt mean its hard

[mortal granite]

if you mess up 1 code then it can fail you

unless you cheese the entire level

[prisma zodiac]

Imo its hard. But it especially punishes mistakes with lack of ammo

r2e1 punishes mistakes with lack of hp (or death)

[real moss]

OG R2E1 was harder than R7E1. While Alt R2E1 is easier tho

It is still a shift in E tier tier list

[prisma zodiac]

hmm

[mortal granite]

r2e1 or r5e1 isn't really punish on hp

since you could just eat the med and tank infection

[prisma zodiac]

r2e1 og or new, are both not too different to r7e1 in pure difficulty. Difficulty is shown differently tho

[mortal granite]

r2e1 og isn't really that hard

[prisma zodiac]

as in the constant error is slowly chipping hp. Ammo is extremely abundant at that point

[mortal granite]

it just people aren't skillful

everytime something bad happen, we just start kiting

[prisma zodiac]

imo
R7E1 punishes you harder, but its easier to avoid getting punished (exception being pablo on first scan)

[mortal granite]

it's a shame that the immortal instantly scream when it spawned

if the immortal can just run through zone and start screaming, then it could do some weird stuff

[prisma zodiac]

its like r7c3 first half. Its easy as shit to not get punished, but if you do… holy shit 20 giants awake

[mortal granite]

r7c3 should be the standard of hard

[real moss]

I really like R7C3 but I don't think it is THAT hard

[prisma zodiac]

the thing is, outside of overloads blood door, the level isnt hard IF you wanna take it slow

[mortal granite]

the PE part

if it's just main, it's really easy

[real moss]

But then again was called an elitist on steam discussions today again sooooo

[prisma zodiac]

like its not hard to stealth that, its just tedious

[twin dirge]

I so agree
the immortal was wasted potential

[real moss]

I only ever did PE

never did main only

[prisma zodiac]

an agressive elitist

[mortal granite]

all of my pub r7c3 PE are just people panicking

[prisma zodiac]

well yeah

[mortal granite]

even if i guide them, it still really chaotic

[prisma zodiac]

but if you push those into r2e1s error the same happens. Just worse

imagine them leaving behind neonate, cell and fog turbine

[mortal granite]

even though error alarm on r2e1 is just small

it still create enough panic

and also, people nowadays are getting special treatment, not like when we were in og r2e1

[prisma zodiac]

og r2e1 with sub 1% completion rate

[mortal granite]

literally 1k hour player going around teaching player how to do everything

[prisma zodiac]

people were just shit

[twin dirge]

at that point they'd mess up R7A1

[mortal granite]

i think the reason for this was people can never pass r2d1

[prisma zodiac]

you would be suprised…

[twin dirge]

[prisma zodiac]

r2d1 og was actually so shitty lol

biggest upgrade by far

[mortal granite]

this r2d1 isn't really that better

[prisma zodiac]

e1 is imo better than old, sad that the ressource zone doesnt have its shadow giant spam anymore

[mortal granite]

[mortal granite]

the spawn fixed

[prisma zodiac]

current r2d1 is so much more fun

[mortal granite]

r2e1 is so big

[prisma zodiac]

only level i legit am sad about is r2d2 😦 went from my fav to good

[mortal granite]

it's still enjoyable

[prisma zodiac]

r2c2 is kinda funky with stamina… not that it matters, its one of the situations where its annoying tho

i mean i just said „from fav to good“

the saddest part for me is the removal of the catwalk room. It so easy to hold from 1 room and easily get free codes in still

[obtuse cedar]

Not really. I didnt ran out of stam a single time in the level. No reason to actively run out of stam in 99% of the levels in this game.

Legit all stamina does is reduce your ability to run away for too long during parkour

Else you just don't care about it. Just learn to dodge while walking

[twin dirge]

R6C3 I found myself hitting 180BPM rather often

[olive shoal]

honestly the most annoying part of stamina is when you’re infected and at high pulse

That breathing drives me insane

[obtuse cedar]

Sounds like a you issue

Never ran out of stam in that level

And i duoed it

[twin dirge]

yeah R6C3 is a really easy level sorry

[obtuse cedar]

It's pretty much always the same

If you are on time

[twin dirge]

this game is easy

why everyone complain about dying

when 20% infinite HP

[obtuse cedar]

Shoot gun

[prisma zodiac]

You know that i legit said that it doesnt matter, its just annoying for when you wanna run to a terminal or smth. Litteraly no real impact

?

[twin dirge]

he wouldn't understand from lack of skill

[obtuse cedar]

Yes. But if it doesn't matter. How is it annoying?

You see the contradiction here right

[prisma zodiac]

being slowed down slightly
heavy breathing

[brisk wraith]

I enjoy Bane mouthbreathing down my neck everytime I jog when there's an enemy awake

[olive shoal]

just wait for r5e1

[brisk wraith]

Or even just running from point A to B

[olive shoal]

Gonna really enjoy the heavy ass breathing there

[brisk wraith]

Genuinely intrusive when you want to hear the game

[obtuse cedar]

Heavy breathing only happens when you are about to run out of stam though

Which cannot happen if enemies are all dead

[twin dirge]

skill issue honestly

[plush basin]

have you tried shooting your gun?

[brisk wraith]

Point still stands, I enjoy Bane

[obtuse cedar]

It is quite a miracle result when you are shooting your gun at enemies

[eternal dragon]

i can barley notice it

[winter wharf]

my bad for suffering any inconvenience in life, which can't be annoying because they don't matter

[olive shoal]

it’s a tiny bit loud

[eternal dragon]

[winter wharf]

like that's just a pointless argument to make

[obtuse cedar]

Just turn voice audio down and it completely dissapear. :)

[olive shoal]

mr fireblade do you still need your a1 completion

[eternal dragon]

i need E4

[olive shoal]

idk if I’d wanna play an e tier with a player like you…

[eternal dragon]

E4 "Constipate"

[olive shoal]

my favourite mission

[obtuse cedar]

The level where you learn shaffer started to become constipated after having sex with that guy in r7a1

[eternal dragon]

more lore

[olive shoal]

[winter wharf]

why cant i find anyone to treat me like big man shaffer treats the hsus

[olive shoal]

I’m excited for the 8 e tier maps we’ll be getting in r8

[earnest marten]

Wtf gerz

Don't spoil

[winter wharf]

you came into the spoiler chat, suffer

[twin dirge]

banned for spoilers

[pale stratus]

rip in pepperoni

[boreal carbon]

dude the surge alarm

I can't even

[real moss]

which one ?

[boreal carbon]

the first one after the error alarm

[prisma zodiac]

cfoam the doors then mine the last

profit

[real moss]

then move on to the next surge 😏

[boreal carbon]

.

[prisma zodiac]

which is actually very chill with cfoam

As long as you safe the doors 💀

[boreal carbon]

were you supposed to save the fog repellers at the beginning?

[prisma zodiac]

not rly

1-2 fog repellers are enough anyway since for the 1st surge youll carry fog turbine still

[boreal carbon]

bruh

died twice at the exact same point today

[prisma zodiac]

it happens

[boreal carbon]

what loadout is better for the surge

I am using pdw + machinegun but

[prisma zodiac]

oh. Guns?

i mean mains arent too important. But hel shotgun is good for it

Carbine/hel revo are also good, since they are the best mains anyhow

for specials, machine guns or combat shotty i guess

[boreal carbon]

ok

[obtuse surge]

misinformation

cant hear heavy breathing while out of combat

nosebreathing mfer

stop playing with music on shadow gx ⚠️

you will be banned from the immersion community

[obtuse cedar]

that isn't loud. maybe stop having your pc at 100% straight in your ears

[obtuse surge]

ok i'll put it sideways in my ears

[obtuse cedar]

people wonder why they are deaf after that

[obtuse surge]

thanks it worked

[obtuse cedar]

i love how people complain about a thing they can change on their end manually once and be done with it

totally show how lazy they are

[obtuse surge]

damn ur mad

[obtuse cedar]

more like i'm laughing at lazy people but ok. i guess i am mad? 🤷

[obtuse surge]

chill bro

buy nitro and u can use the ice block

[velvet linden]

people legit out here defending stamina lmao

[obtuse cedar]

it doesn't change anything

imagine complaining about something that doesn't change anything

[velvet linden]

it literally does change something

if it didn't change anything, I wouldn't notice it

[obtuse surge]

u just lazy honestly

lazy adult, correction needed 💢

[obtuse cedar]

true it make peopl clear missions faster cause they start shooting instantly now instead of running around for 15 minutes everytime and alarm is class 4+

[narrow gulch]

melee fun, I have other games to shoot the whole time

[obtuse surge]

it doesn't change anything it just changes the sounds unless u turn them off but then it turns off other things too

but it doesn't change anything

you have to walk a little during moments of no danger instead of just continuing your sprint

but it doesn't change anything

you have to randomly wait a little while meleeing

but it doesn't change anything

it's honestly the exact same

[obtuse cedar]

i guess you were the one mad all along

[obtuse surge]

bro i used the mad thing so you would realise thats its retarted to use

[narrow gulch]

or just use knife if its not chargers or bigs like most waves

[velvet linden]

its the same*

*sameness not guranteed

[obtuse surge]

mission failed

rip homie

[obtuse cedar]

anything to piss you off wesley 😉

[obtuse surge]

more like i'm laughing at lazy people but ok. i guess i am mad? 🤷

[obtuse cedar]

so you are laughing at yourself for being lazy and not adapting and instead complain? got it

👍

[obtuse surge]

yeh bro im not adapting

i've only played a thousand hours with the new shit

very low clear rate tho honestly

troubled gamer

fell off

1% clear rate R2C2

THE HARDESRT LEVEK

[deft kiln]

Very scary level

[narrow gulch]

wait rly

is that an actual stat

[obtuse surge]

my stat yes

[prisma zodiac]

damn you back up to 1% again?

[obtuse surge]

THE GRIND NEVER STOP

[prisma zodiac]

thought it dipped to 0.1% at a point

[deft kiln]

i wish I had a 1% clear rate on the level

[prisma zodiac]

[deft kiln]

My 0.002 % is a bad skill issue

[narrow gulch]

I was going to be very disappointed if that was real lol

[deft kiln]

It might be man

We reset a lot

[obtuse surge]

there's actually 20 ids in R2C2 and they all spawn in the same zone

[deft kiln]

hahah

I love the 30 keys that all open the same door

[deft kiln]

Do you have a fog id that you use I couldn’t find one that one nice

[prisma zodiac]

understatement
when i see 150 recordings after a 3 hour session with 3 completions

[deft kiln]

Personally lowering the r2a1 clear rate

That is my game that is my name

[obtuse surge]

i just use the same one but set the height to 0

[deft kiln]

Ahhh cool

[obtuse surge]

how do i keep gear 4 so i dont lose grip during the ice slide

[deft kiln]

I can keep gear 3 on the turn can’t complete maps sub 10 😭😭

[vapid moon]

is r4e1 the only unsolo'd level right now?

[drifting lichen]

I think r7d1 after the patch for overload hasn't been completed yet

[vapid moon]

what about r4e1

has it been done?

[drifting lichen]

Good question

[nocturne flax]

Its been soloed

but hella game abused

[vapid moon]

extreme even?

[nocturne flax]

for what they told me yeah

[drifting lichen]

probably door glitch

sleepers stuck

[nocturne flax]

^

[vapid moon]

ah

cool

[nocturne flax]

its probably gonna be soloable in the alt version

its all good

[drifting lichen]

Yea, the nerf's gonna make the tank become a 4 chargers wave

[nocturne flax]

thats not gonna happend

but level design will change significally to allow for better setups

just like every alt now

[drifting lichen]

yes

[nocturne flax]

so it would allow solos and duos to play the game now

[vapid moon]

i like these new alts

just wish the amount of sleeping enemies werent nerfed

specifically r2e1

[nocturne flax]

it wasnt nerf

they just fix distribution bug

[vapid moon]

oh

bring back distribution bug then

[nocturne flax]

this is how it suppose to be

kekw

[mortal granite]

the one bug that the devs fix that make people complain about it

[pliant pasture]

bhahahaha

"one"

[fossil jetty]

Did they nerf the bat to not one hit locks?

i swear they did before

[hexed vapor]

It's the same afaik.

You accounting for the CD?

Although I think you can spam it.

[mortal granite]

might be ping issue

since i can consistently break lock and then sometime not when i got ping issue

[fossil jetty]

hmm ok

[sacred flame]

did you have on a booster that reduced melee damage? even -1% will cause the bat to not be able to 1-light-tap locks

[twin dirge]

if they just fixed actual issues

[mortal granite]

what is the issue in these alt

i mean bug

[twin dirge]

GTFO is a bug and exploit free game

sorry

the game is so polished no one can point out any issues whatsoever

[fossil jetty]

Ah maybe. Had some boosters on for fun

[pale stratus]

So smooth.

And shiny.

Smooth like a shark.

[twin dirge]

skipping entire sections of the game kind of bugs? nooo

none of that

[raven flare]

wow gtfo spoilers more like gtfo fuck gtfo

[warm burrow]

They aren't bugs, they are features

[prisma zodiac]

if you exclude door bug/getting enemys fully stuck

then r7e1, r4e1, r6dx

[vapid moon]

👍

[fresh bronze]

found the message i posted after it happened

to this day i have no god damn clue what allowed it to happen

[narrow gulch]

50% melee damage booster

[fresh bronze]

no booster like i said it staggered the charger scout somehow

[narrow gulch]

No syringe either?

[fresh bronze]

he hit it twice

[narrow gulch]

No idea

[fresh bronze]

its gotta be one of the strangest things ive ever seen in the game

we where going for the duo melee kill

i missed he hit

then he hit again

[prisma zodiac]

could be lag

ive seen a friend of mine kill a charger scout with a sniper to the front in r6dx

2 shots

was due to desync

[atomic escarp]

I believe that normal scouts can get staggered, and so do charger scouts?

I remember missing a scout head in R4, hit the back, he staggered and I just hit him again in the occiput

I was also client in that game I think, so maybe it's still desync

[prisma zodiac]

yeah. But not long for 1 person to kill it

with a melee

unless you did like 99% with the first hit and then do a light attack?

[prisma zodiac]

yeah this is it usually

ive had funky moments myself. Desync can hurt and safe

funniest is still a guy shooting a charger scout twice with sniper to the front man… the delay on that 2nd shot made it even better

[atomic escarp]

yep, bonked back instead of occiput with 100% charge, then light tap on occiput when he staggered

TBH I never asked myself if it was just luck or if Scouts can be damaged while staggered even as host

[prisma zodiac]

i mean they can be damaged while staggered

its just a very short window

[mortal granite]

how many full charge hammer to kill a big charger?

[prisma zodiac]

front or back?

front 6, back 3

[mortal granite]

ok

i thought i got some inconsistency

since sometime we get 3 and sometime 4 (for the back)

[prisma zodiac]

its what ray said earlier

angle is pretty sharp for full x2 (and you need x2 for everyone)

[hallow lark]

Or if you get VERY unlucky… you may end up stretching the Charger scout kill by 1 additions unnecessary hit to kill it. (One of my old c2 attempts had me full charge spear hit a foamed Charger scout… 4 hits with a spear but it’s like courting with run-ending disaster

[mellow creek]

what was r4e1 or r5e1 again

r3e1 was first mama r4e1 was error daddy ?

[hexed vapor]

R4E1 Tank error with alarms and shit, then get turbine + bulkhead, then stealth through shadows and deep fog, then final alarm and double boss fight.

[mellow creek]

ah right

oh yeah that error tank hahahah

[hexed vapor]

Secondary is the reactor with lightning fast waves but fewer enemies, where usually you have a group defend while another group code hunts.

[mellow creek]

oh yea

[hexed vapor]

R5E1 is triple error, interspersed with hard stealth. You start with max infection.

[mellow creek]

dis is just sad

when new rd

feels like ever since r3

all i have been doing was asking wen new rd

[hexed vapor]

R8 in 2023, maybe.

Might be 2024 at this rate.

[mellow creek]

sadge

[half hornet]

Should've said "that's not waku waku"

[solemn wigeon]

You've been sentenced to plinko

[real moss]

R3B2* There was no R3E1

R3D1 first big mommy as well

[deft kiln]

Where r3

[pliant pasture]

i have a trusted source

they just told me R3+R4 double drop

on Thursday

[mellow creek]

pfft

i call r8 dropping 1/1/2024

[pliant pasture]

hell ya

wait

is that a Thursday?

[real moss]

R2 did not drop on thursday 😏

did you even finish R2 aqua?

[pliant pasture]

nah my team has only had enough time to get up to C2, weight we might be trying that tonight burger time

[real moss]

R2 only starts getting gud C2 onwards

so have fun !

😃

[pliant pasture]

wilco! i have heard the good news about R2C2

[real moss]

They all good from there honestly. Even if nerfed still hella fun.

[pliant pasture]

thats the plan!

[half hornet]

Gotta finish grinding dota first...

[robust marsh]

good luck

you should have enough experience to past it with flying colours

[pliant pasture]

thats the plan! there is a desire to go in blind and i will play the part until directly asked

so maybe not first try

[robust marsh]

Good luck

[tribal loom]

I still haven’t done R7E1

Need to

Or should I just jump to R2

[narrow gulch]

r2 funner

[solemn wigeon]

Is it tho

Idk man

[fringe surge]

random question

Is r2 d2 doable with 3 players?

[tough badger]

yes

if you have to ask the question it's probably gonna suck tho

[fringe surge]

oh boy

time to put some faith in the bot

[vapid moon]

give it bio

bot bio is almost cheating

[fringe surge]

It really is

inb4 shadows and we regret not giving the stealth dude bio

[last gust]

3 players is luxury
#gtfo-media message

[fringe surge]

[last gust]

ahto should still have a vod up: https://www.twitch.tv/aht0_

we didn't really do anything that could be regarded as "degenerate" strats, fwiw

[last gust]

r7e1 feels more "fragile" than the hard stuff in r2, if that makes sense

there isn't really any hard waveclear in r7e1

you're more likely to just throw a run to silly mistakes

whereas in the harder levels in r2 it feels like more of the difficulty comes from getting getting overwhelmed in fights or ground down by errors or whatever

that said, I have a weird fondness of r7e1, that probably has more than a little to do with duos-induced stockholm syndrome

[last gust]

oh, and this is truth

c2 and d2 have been my highlights from r2 so far

maybe also e1, but I haven't done enough of that level yet (duoing surges is hard)

I've even weirdly come around on d1

the rest of r2 is either forgettable or just kinda sucks

[tough badger]

D1 (as someone who never did r2 originally) came across as fun fog scans plus some of the absolute worst spitter zones to date, all in a just-slightly-too-tedious package

It wasn't bad, but all its ideas get used better later

[hoary musk]

D1 is propably one of the most basic levels ever. Classic Zone-Clearing GTFO. Choosing between security doors, spooky stacked rooms, no forward extract, extraction alarm

[real moss]

yet so good

[mortal granite]

i just wish it didn't bug my audio ramdonly

[real moss]

it's your ears m8

[mortal granite]

https://youtu.be/TuWc1kYjHvc?t=1396

[real moss]

eww thermals

[mortal granite]

i like PR

[real moss]

liked*

[mortal granite]

no, i like pr

i just use gun i like

just doesn't care about buff/nerf

i even use HAR

[plush basin]

Love the new gun audio for the PR

[mortal granite]

it's the new audio DLC

9.99$

[plush basin]

I'm gonna bodyshot giants just so I can hear that noise over and over

[mortal granite]

i leaked it, ready for the lawsuit

for the greater good

[restive oak]

PR is my bae, I love it. The long reload time is killing me, but I still love it

[mortal granite]

every gun need long reload

change my mind

ez balance

[twin dirge]

unironically it'll call out everyone who refuses to use their secondary

[mortal granite]

i met a guy in r2d2 alt

going hel rev + sniper

ammo balance:
Hel rev: 10%
Sniper: 100%

and refuse to use ammopack unless sniper is 0%

i kept wondering why enemy just pass through him without him shooting

mf didn't have any hel rev left in his clip

[restive oak]

R7C3 simulator

[hoary musk]

the trick is to miss when using the sniper, so the ammo balance is like 60/00

[mortal granite]

just shoot your gun brother

you have a 5 use ammo pack

[restive oak]

Honestly, it feels bad to just use your ammo on the sniper

Few bullets, high damage, my heart doesn't let me "waste it"

[mortal granite]

just shoot it

PLEASE

[twin dirge]

yeah I feel weird whenever using a sniper on normal striker
but you got to do it

[hoary musk]

Choke mod is better than sniper in most situations because it actually works alright vs smalls

[prisma zodiac]

i mean it should happen super rarely…

[mortal granite]

at least you shot a striker

[prisma zodiac]

sniper is good if you expect hybrids especially

[atomic escarp]

The alternative to not "wasting" sniper bullets on normals sometimes is to waste the % of ammopack later

[mortal granite]

i know he want to shoot giant and hybrid

but he miss

[prisma zodiac]

this is smth people sometimes dont get at all

or not reloading before giving yourself ammo packs

[atomic escarp]

I'd get if their reasoning was something along the lines of "I'm not going to get so low on sniper ammo that 1 ammo refill isn't remotely enough to cap my ammo"

[restive oak]

Does this matter if you're not full on ammo?

[twin dirge]

I mean it's good practice to reload before fill

[restive oak]

Irelevant to my question

[twin dirge]

true

[atomic escarp]

AFAIK if you don't reload the max ammo count gets inflated by whatever your clip/mag size is, even if said clip/mag is empty

[prisma zodiac]

It will make you miss up to a full magazine depending on ammo%

[restive oak]

I didn't want to sound like a dick, but just curious about that specific case

[prisma zodiac]

so take you have 100% shotgun. You shoot 8 times (full magazine to empty) you are now at ~70%
You give yourself ammo before reload

still 70%

[restive oak]

That doesn't... Make sense

[prisma zodiac]

its more noticeable on guns with high bullet costs and or big magazine in comparision to total ammo

[atomic escarp]

Nor does being unable to merge medkits tbh

[restive oak]

An ammo pack gives 20% base right?

[prisma zodiac]

your reserves are capped at 100% ammo minus 1 magazine

[prisma zodiac]

no

Depend on gun

[restive oak]

Oh

[prisma zodiac]

mains range from like 16-20%, specials from 25% (sniper due to rounding) to 34% or smth like that

[restive oak]

Okay, then in your example with the shotgun

100% ammo full mag, deplete mag

Whether you reload or not, you're on 70%

[prisma zodiac]

No if you reload and take the ammo pack you go back to 100%

if you dont reload youll be at 70% still

[restive oak]

Ah I see

Because the "stocks" is

Full

[atomic escarp]

If I had to take a guess, ammopack basically only give you the reserve ammo, so "mag ammo" doesn't count

[prisma zodiac]

Yea

and reserves are less than 100% ammo obviously

[restive oak]

Okay, so that means the answer to my question is

It doesn't matter if you reload or not before ammo pack if you're not around full ammo

[prisma zodiac]

at least until we get precision rifle nerfed to 0 bullets per mag

[prisma zodiac]

it depends on the gun in the end

like on sniper if you have an empty mag and ~58% ammo. Then give yourself an ammo pack. You can miss a bullet due to it

[restive oak]

So as long as you can take an ammo pack and not surpass max reserves

You can refill anytime

[prisma zodiac]

yea

[restive oak]

Bueno

[twin dirge]

nor does placing packs back into lockers

snorts copium

[coarse spire]

what's the secondary called

[hidden crater]

Like the weapon used?

[coarse spire]

yep

[hidden crater]

Which part of the video

[coarse spire]

the timestamped one

[hidden crater]

That's a primary

Oh

[coarse spire]

23:29

sorry forgot that he pulled out the primary

[nocturne flax]

No bullet, only reload

[hidden crater]

Precision rifle

Says in top right

[coarse spire]

Aight thanks

[pliant pasture]

but, but...

we have all this kool-aid left...
and no one to drink it

[candid dragon]

I replaced the kool-aid with water.

[pliant pasture]

Stay hydrated everyone, if you haven't drank water in the last little bit, drink some now

[restive oak]

Why need water when we are 80% water

Wake up, sheeple

[pliant pasture]

exactly, we need to be drinking more gamer fuel

Its Got What Gamers Want

[candid dragon]

Turn to sand at less than 50% hydration because of gods floating point precision error

[plush basin]

Electrolytes 🙌

[hidden crater]

[restive oak]

Gamer Tested, Gamer Approved

[nocturne flax]

G fuel

For the gamer

Because apparently gamers do not eat healthy

Nor drink water

[restive oak]

no time for water or healthy eating, when you grinding

you gotta grind 25h a day

[pliant pasture]

pizza has carbs and protein, thats everything you need
g-fuel has everything else

[restive oak]

grinder fuel

[nocturne flax]

How to die on your 30's

Do whst he saying

[real moss]

I'm not dead

tho

[pliant pasture]

ah, but you're not in burgerland

[real moss]

true

that is an instant 80% reduction on the risk of diabetes

[pliant pasture]

and heart disease

[real moss]

and 80% reduction on the price of insulin :p

[pliant pasture]

and, and, and...

[restive oak]

laughs in European medical system

[nocturne flax]

People just dont wanna cook

[pliant pasture]

salt and oil just taste sooo gooood

[half hornet]

Sugar in my water, salt in my food

[real moss]

salt an olive oil on bread. there you go, you italian now

[pliant pasture]

hmmm not enough forbidden noodles

[restive oak]

toasted baguette, rubbed with tomato, garlic and olive oil

boom, you're catalan now

[real moss]

only catalans rub their baguette with garlic 🤦‍♂️

[restive oak]

I think it's spanish

but it's delish

[pliant pasture]

and me too pretty soon, damn

[nocturne flax]

Please upgrade bots

😔

[atomic escarp]

What would u do with such improvements 🤔

[steel gyro]

the hel shotgun is useful in any way?

i tried it and seems to be realy bad

but maybe I'm using it wrong

[prisma zodiac]

rly rly rly strong in any close quarters

absolute stopgap and meatgrinder for big waves in front of you

[steel gyro]

oh okay, so it performs better in certain situations

[prisma zodiac]

well yeah. its a close range shotgun

easily a top 4 main gun

[steel gyro]

any suggestion on a special to pair it with?

[prisma zodiac]

currently?
depends on what you need for your team. machine guns are both rly good and good with it (just hard to use maybe). Revolver is also good (also hard to use well tho )

HAR would be great, if it didnt have awful recoil

i usually just run it when i know i need the low range sudden aoe burst and stop. And then the special just is what i needed

[mossy marsh]

.t modding

[jaunty hedge]

GTFO doesn't officially support mods and we don't allow them to be played in public lobbies or voice channels on this server, and lengthy discussions should also be avoided (mentioning them is perfectly fine). However, we do recognize that a GTFO modding community exist and if you are interested in them, you are welcome to join the independent modding community Discord server. https://discord.gg/rRMPtv4FAh (If you have any more questions, please read rule #12 in the rules channel for more information.)

[mossy marsh]

[steel gyro]

okay that seems right, I'll try it more! thank you for the help!

[mossy marsh]

I remember there was a mod (deprecated now) called AdvancedBotAI that just made them invincible

[nocturne flax]

I moderate there you bologna

[nocturne flax]

Nah that mod was shit

Easter unit one its miles better

Even then i woulda love if 10cc actually gave a shit and gave us old bots

That they used to have

Pretty much the best version of bots

[daring pilot]

Except for scans

They wouldn’t move more than like 5 feet away from you and would all do the same scan

[mossy marsh]

Ja, I know
referencing it was more of a joke lol

[atomic escarp]

Bots need few improvements and also stop sucking enemies when they get in melee range

[mossy marsh]

Hackett sucks striker at point blank range (bad ending)

[atomic escarp]

bad ending for the striker or Hackett?

[mossy marsh]

yes

[atomic escarp]

I miss when they just light up a horde in 2 secs

[hexed vapor]

Is R7B2 re-bugged?

Saw someone complain on Reddit.

7 days ago apparently.

[nocturne flax]

Did you know during testing of r6 the game would assign 1 bot to do scans while the other bot would remain the same way it is now by staying close to the player ?