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grizzled mesa
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Solo without bots of course

deft kiln
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There is tons of resources and the two scans are nasty

kind swan
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I love full charging a sleeper to the head and it does absolutely nothing. The scary part is. I've grown accustomed to react to these by doing nothing vs keep going if I catch it.

deft kiln
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Yeah solo without bots

grizzled mesa
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Any tool suggestions for R1A1?

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For solo

atomic escarp
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Mine deployer

deft kiln
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I would sentry but maybe mines is fine?

kind swan
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Most solos originally were minedeployer for og r1a1

grizzled mesa
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Alright ty

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Will try catjam

atomic escarp
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Mines are lot better than og r1

kind swan
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The first alarm is a struggle for some if they dont take mines

grizzled mesa
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The class 2 alarm?

deft kiln
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Yeah it has to do with room distance

atomic escarp
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Yes

deft kiln
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The sleepers basically spawn right next to you

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Pretty funny

grizzled mesa
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Inside the room?

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O_o

atomic escarp
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No right outside

kind swan
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Solo scanning 4 small scans takes significantly longer than a 4 man

grizzled mesa
deft kiln
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It does but the 2nd room is really close

atomic escarp
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For some reason

pliant pasture
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no, like 20m away, because of how small the rooms are

grizzled mesa
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Right

atomic escarp
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Oh yeah also save the class 4 door else u in a world of trouble

grizzled mesa
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I think I'll give it a try soon

deft kiln
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The door is the one on 49c and they can spawn in 49d

pliant pasture
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Very Short Walk

deft kiln
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Very very funny

kind swan
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I remember when people would cfoam all 3 doors for that 4 scan door

grizzled mesa
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Right, I thought they'll spawn in the room below D

kind swan
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Or is it 5?

grizzled mesa
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In the small room

kind swan
wary olive
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the 2nd alarm is much harder with mines imo

grizzled mesa
deft kiln
grizzled mesa
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Now I understand the struggle with that scan

deft kiln
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When I warm up I miss reloads

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An it is just insta gg

atomic escarp
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Well you just have to kite and kill if u wanna make it

grizzled mesa
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Any weapon suggestions? Hel Revolver? Choke mod?

kind swan
deft kiln
atomic escarp
kind swan
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Just know how to use the weapons you take

deft kiln
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Solos is mostly about reloads when holding

grizzled mesa
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Main loadout for me

kind swan
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And ye.. long reload weapons are a no go as a solo.

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No teammate to cover the reload

atomic escarp
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Def should take bullpup

grizzled mesa
kind swan
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Bullpup.. makes me laugh knowing what it "Used to be"

grizzled mesa
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"Ah let me reload cancel"

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Dies

kind swan
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Curious how they'll nerf Hel gun when it returns

grizzled mesa
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I hope they dont

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It was so damn good

kind swan
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It has to

grizzled mesa
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Yes it was too good

silent kettle
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just buff the other guns instead

grizzled mesa
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But I don't want to lose my baby

deft kiln
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na the only gun that needs a nerf is pr

olive shoal
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the 10cc solution

kind swan
deft kiln
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pr reloads to fast

silent kettle
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strong guns + hard maps = fun
weak guns + easy maps = no fun

kind swan
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Make Choke mod has fast reload and 8 round tube

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Revert the damage nerf on High cal but keep the range and ammo

deft kiln
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na high cal used to be too fun

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kept player retention time to high

kind swan
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I love how it can't oneshot body a shooter at any range now

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(Excluding back)

deft kiln
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yeah idk it is probs still fine tbh

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i just dont like that it doesnt one shot charger scouts

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so unfo

kind swan
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It's a stronger revolver dmg per shot. But still needs headshots

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However

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Revolver can still kill a charger scout

grizzled mesa
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It was beautiful before they nerfed it

deft kiln
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kinda insane but yeah it can

grizzled mesa
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Didn't know about that

obtuse cedar
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mag dump

deft kiln
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yeah it can mag dump

grizzled mesa
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Oh wow

deft kiln
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nice

obtuse cedar
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the american way to kill scout

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πŸ™‚

wary olive
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🀠

deft kiln
grizzled mesa
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Good to know dogekek

nocturne flax
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revolver its just left booty cheek technique

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for 99% of kills on big guys

grizzled mesa
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Will try that too. Tbh I barely used the revolver

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For some reason...

pliant pasture
obtuse cedar
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the only gun receiving nerf after nerf even though people are sleeping on it

nocturne flax
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If you like helgun you should try revo, pretty much the same shit

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without the OP penetration

nocturne flax
obtuse cedar
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r6 nerf it's range

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or was it r7

nocturne flax
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wachu mean damage its 14

obtuse cedar
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with the introduction of PR

nocturne flax
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they give you extra range

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kekw

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lemme check

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nah your right but even then they fucked up and whatever range they try to penalize you didnt matter because of the damage increase

grizzled mesa
nocturne flax
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i think you get more range than before with revo now

nocturne flax
grizzled mesa
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Alright

obtuse cedar
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we just want a 15 dmg revolver

nocturne flax
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get a booster

obtuse cedar
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lame

nocturne flax
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same shit with stupid hcp

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stop crying and slap a 35% damage on special

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same shit

obtuse cedar
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gatekeeping fun behind a rng mechanic

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smh

nocturne flax
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lets demand for better boosters then

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instead of the shitshow we have now

errant vigil
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Revo been buff all but one rundown

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Man is tweaking

nocturne flax
errant vigil
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I know

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it got two buffs

nocturne flax
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r5 was the one that had the "reduce ammo"

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kekw

obtuse cedar
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they buffed it until r4 cause it was slept on

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remember that whole "revolver suck" trend back then lol

kind swan
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basically people skill issue

nocturne flax
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was using that shit since forever

obtuse cedar
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gun always was good

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people were just sleeping on it

nocturne flax
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i do remember the you gotta bring burst canon or else leave my lobby

errant vigil
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Buff In R2, R3, R4 and R7

nocturne flax
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happend once or twice

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ask me how i know kekw

errant vigil
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People not hitting headshots on the precision weapon

nocturne flax
# obtuse cedar gun always was good

I mean if your always the type of people that just follows blindly the "meta" or its a super nerd for stats then you will see people like that always

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just look at r5 lmao

errant vigil
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10CC yea we buff so it's easier for non precise aim

nocturne flax
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stupid people bringing 4 hel rifles and wondering why the tank doesnt die quick enough

olive shoal
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yea but hel rifle was good!!

nocturne flax
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no it was bad

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just bring helgun

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hella better

olive shoal
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i could never use hel rifle anyways

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weapon just feels awful to me

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i was always a hel gun enjoyer

errant vigil
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old helgun charge up when

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pierce bullets do reduced damage when

nocturne flax
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too much work

obtuse cedar
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even though it would somewhat fix pen

nocturne flax
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nah man

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3 vacations

kind swan
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the rare time you find an experienced player using AR or SMG kek

nocturne flax
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were not that rare

olive shoal
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10 vacations

errant vigil
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AR has been solid for forever

obtuse cedar
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experienced players can use any gun.. gun doesn't matter

kind swan
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Yep

nocturne flax
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either i bring what i like or compensate what my team lacking

kind swan
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I don't see any experienced player opting people to use AR over any other guns tho (aside from bullpup because reload)

obtuse cedar
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cause AR is good in pretty much any situation

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just other guns can perform better

nocturne flax
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because you see them telling people "play what you like and be good at it"

kind swan
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I also dont see those people choosing AR

obtuse cedar
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blend gun

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πŸ™‚

kind swan
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AR is solid but it's pickrate is still much lower

nocturne flax
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yeah we should buff it to 3 damage

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good idea

kind swan
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I do recall one guy saying AR recoil was nasty.

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Me: r u kidding.

errant vigil
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Ar pierce and damage increase easy clap

kind swan
nocturne flax
nocturne flax
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gotcha

kind swan
nocturne flax
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adding it next rundown

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easy clap

kind swan
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Eh

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If anything I desire for any/all the guns

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Is alternative sights

nocturne flax
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sadly schaeffer kill the guy making tools and weapons

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what a shame

kind swan
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Similar zoom levels but more so different designs of sights

olive shoal
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rip to a real one

kind swan
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Hydrokinetic fluid

nocturne flax
olive shoal
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hell yea

kind swan
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give Klas Henrickson the Small circle Glasses and he will become the Kommandant

prisma zodiac
# grizzled mesa Any tool suggestions for R1A1?

Mine deployer if you take it slow. Since you can reliably find cfoam nades in zone 50 (and sometimes 49)
Yeah you can also find explosive trip mines so bringing a burst sentry is better in a high roll. But mines can be spammed with all the tool and make your life easier

Burst sentry if you wanna go quick, mines arent reliable enough without foam nades.

prisma zodiac
prisma zodiac
kind swan
obtuse surge
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snail shotgun :DDDDDDD

twin dirge
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gun experts when reacting to GTFO weapons (they're unrealistic as hell)

candid dragon
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Gun espurts wen snoipa

cedar haven
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How do I walk like this? SantonianWhatElse

twin dirge
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it's a bug to do with the ladder I think

azure reef
# twin dirge it's a bug to do with the ladder I think

I've had this happen from massive lag/desync. I spawned into the level just like that, with no weapons, tool or anything. You actually do have a normal looking run animation(I expected T-pose) where you can see your hands move. It was very disconcerting.

granite kiln
cedar haven
granite kiln
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Gotta run fast

hidden crater
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someone will absolutely use this feature to drop their weapons and melee only the enemy

mortal granite
atomic escarp
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The mapper got scrapped 100% or there's a chance of seeing it in R8?

hoary musk
nocturne flax
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but never any progress

twin dirge
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lmao

jolly perch
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doc brought it up a few times about how it was still planned to release

hoary musk
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Hmm, must have missed that. I don't believe it though

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Where did Doc go anyway? I remember them becoming a somewhat controversial figure, and one day they werent on here anymore

surreal rivet
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Just not on the server anymore, people bullied him into leaving lol

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Also D0c talked about us being able to customise weapons and tools :) btw

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Which is not in game (yet?)

obtuse cedar
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What would the mapper actually Do though

hoary musk
obtuse cedar
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You have a map and they reused the same tiles over and over

surreal rivet
obtuse cedar
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That doesn't Tell us the purpose of it

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That is a load of nothing

surreal rivet
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Aaaand also one of the game designers (Hjalmar, I'm really sorry if I'm fucking up the name) said something about the mapper in their twitch devstream after R6 released

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But I can't remember exactly what.

obtuse cedar
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But legit it would be pretty useless...

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You don't even have a purpose for it

surreal rivet
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

mortal granite
obtuse cedar
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If it has no purpose then no reason to put time on it. They need to find a unique purpose that has value for the player

obtuse cedar
mortal granite
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the value here is knowing what type of enemy behind the door, but that's it

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bio do it better in every way, except being cinematic

hidden crater
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it'd be nice for newbies

obtuse cedar
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That is pretty useless

mortal granite
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it was more useful IF the devs didn't change the bio

obtuse cedar
mortal granite
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the bio back then was a movement tracker

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and not a biotracker

junior lance
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I like being biotracker and c-foam sounds fun

mortal granite
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so, movement tracker - only track enemy that's moving
mapper - show you the location of the sleeping enemy and tile layout

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they changed movement tracker into bio tracker and now it just best of both world

obtuse cedar
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And they saw that separated. They both had no real value so they combined it

junior lance
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Im new so I dont know the difference

mortal granite
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i could show you the difference

junior lance
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Just got introduced to it with both c-foam and biotracker

mortal granite
surreal rivet
junior lance
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I started like yesterday and actually familiar with the command prompt

surreal rivet
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"It couldn't hold its own in competition with the other tools. Each tool has to be more or less equally as useful as the others to be justified.

As it were, the "mapper" only helped map the environment, and since the geometry of the environment doesn't change from attempt to attempt, players would use the mapper on the 1-2 first attempt tops (if at all) so we shelved it in order to make the game lean design-wise.

As mentioned, we've been toying with the idea of adding more abilities to the mapper to make it more useful. It could become a tool for the designated group leader, who calls the shots and puts waypoints in 3D space for the rest of the team to follow. Also, it could reveal where there are resources, since that's sort of part of the environment. I think that would make it a pretty attractive tool."

But, you know, this could've changed since then. We can only dream.

mortal granite
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the thing is

obtuse cedar
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2 years ago

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Lmao

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Yeah no not happening

mortal granite
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if the game was more exploring then "doing objective" then it could have been useful

obtuse cedar
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Terminal also give you the resources thing

mortal granite
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the exploring part is buried a lot

obtuse cedar
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So again mapper still has no purpose

mortal granite
twin dirge
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unless they introduce levels that randomize

obtuse cedar
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Would be use once or twice then dropped because it's the same tiles

mortal granite
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it looked cool

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"yes" and then never use it again

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people would only use it for making video or just straight up meme

obtuse cedar
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Useless Time sink for devs really at this point

mortal granite
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even with the movement tracker alone (not bio), it already useful

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it can tag enemy which is the only thing you need

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i would say, the mapper will be heavily CHEESED

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since you can just use it on a door, seeing fully where the head of the enemy are, make a gap on the door and shoot

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you can do it without the mapper, but you can see the highlight of the enemy

nocturne flax
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When r2

mortal granite
nocturne flax
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Full release game without private lobbies

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Amazing

hoary musk
twin dirge
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because engineering

nocturne flax
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No option to host a p2p lobby neither kekw

broken scarab
nocturne flax
broken scarab
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I do.

nocturne flax
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But yeah not even crafting system its completed yet

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But the premium cosmetic shop is kekw

obtuse cedar
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There is always a reason for hate to arise. So there is a reason why people hated him. 🀷

Else hate wouldnt exist

nocturne flax
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I wouldnt continue that convo

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Hes gone already

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Peace its finally here

obtuse cedar
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Yeah but denying that There wasnt a reason is idiotic

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It is like trying to deny reality

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Now was it a valid reason is another subject entirely

nocturne flax
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He knows, we knows, just doing his job

mortal granite
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are we gonna

obtuse cedar
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No

mortal granite
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pulling a khepri?

nocturne flax
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Nah he made a loveletter

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Cisco enginner stole my heart then dip

real moss
# mortal granite

I don't remember khepri shooting his brains out with a shotgun thoπŸ€”

mortal granite
fallow wasp
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Gtfo level where the entire objective is to make it from one side of a massive desert segment to the other, and it’s dotted with resource deposits

twin dirge
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oh god

mortal granite
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it's like every video game

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that's mind blowing

fallow wasp
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Like a long R7C2 sequence

mortal granite
fallow wasp
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Mad max in this bitch

fallow wasp
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I might be okay with that

obtuse cedar
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When Do we get a level with no resources. You just have what you dropped in with

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For the whole level

mortal granite
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a true E level

twin dirge
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^^

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R7C3 I thought was going to be that but nah

fallow wasp
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The issue with that would just be that it’d either be short or the enemies would be too easy

real moss
mortal granite
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R8 E tier be like: "The warden detect the prisoner is fucking with the system, time to kill them all"

obtuse cedar
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You drop with 2 uses ammo and 3 uses tool per player.... That can last you for quite some time

twin dirge
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the Warden flys down like Jesus and starts chanting Bible segments to deal damage to everyone

mortal granite
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but Henrikson being the "engineer" and actually dropping all the KSO operators and then a small text read: "GTFO.... 2"

mortal granite
real moss
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stop

mortal granite
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i'm an engineer

twin dirge
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somehow you had an idea worse than mine

mortal granite
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well, there's always a start

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looking for newer game to play
The newer game:

prisma zodiac
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i mean most of those are due to stuttering

subtle vault
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I played a little bit of it. It’s alright

real moss
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shame was expecting mmore

prisma zodiac
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from what ive heard the game is still good

obtuse cedar
twin dirge
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I have no clue

real moss
# prisma zodiac from what ive heard the game is still good

heavy focus on repetitive melee. They went the dead space way of HUD except you can't read it in combat cause its so small. Cheap jump scares. lacks atmosphere of Dead space. all enemie types boil down to one type. Horrendous performance.

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But yes it is still recommended and I will get it. in a year or so

prisma zodiac
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i mean comparing it do dead space is fine, since ya know
But i never expected a game of dead space 1-2s level

prisma zodiac
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those had a very unique new way of combat at the time with super cool gameplay and story ontop of a great atmosphere

real moss
prisma zodiac
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i mean ill judge myself

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game definetly isnt a "flop"

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its just not reliably playable rn

real moss
prisma zodiac
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one year?

real moss
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its just not worth the price

wet ravine
broken scarab
prisma zodiac
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Theres quite often reasons for hate
But saying that someone deserves that is not the same

obtuse cedar
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There is ALWAYS a reason for hate

wet ravine
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If you literally SEARCH for it.

obtuse cedar
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That is just a fact of life

wet ravine
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People just going to dig a reason to hate something everytime.

obtuse cedar
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We can see it all the time in social media

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Which is why social media are so toxic

wet ravine
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And also steam discussion included.

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You never wanna be in that place.

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Ever.

atomic escarp
wet ravine
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"come on, what did you expect?"

twin dirge
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I do not know anything really bad
and the only thing is that Doc wanted to get the modding software banned? I think

broken scarab
# obtuse cedar That is just a fact of life

I really don’t agree. Or, rather, maybe the person hating sees a reason but I wouldn’t personally see that all hate has a valid reason. Case in point: racism. But we are getting philosophical on a Friday. We can agree to disagree on hatred and people’s need to share that.

broken scarab
obtuse cedar
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i never said it was valid or not. just that there IS a reason

wet ravine
obtuse cedar
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so my statement is not wrong

broken scarab
obtuse cedar
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i didn't stated my opinion on that subject though

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πŸ€”

broken scarab
twin dirge
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would it be subjective then to hate someone for their opinion?

wet ravine
broken scarab
nocturne flax
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Why did you start again

broken scarab
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I see the world differently, and without including the valid part, one could jump to conclusion. Hate is a complicated matter.

obtuse cedar
broken scarab
junior lance
nocturne flax
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Apparently its just shiity optimization

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game should still be top notch apparently

hidden crater
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Every single fucking frame checks if the game is pirated or something

marble rampart
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So any idea when Alt R2 is going to drop? Really hoping that I can make some drops this weekend… 😬

pliant pasture
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they just put out a dev leak, so the hype train is blowing its whistle, but hasn't left the station

dark rover
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I Hope it’s after my exams are done

past bough
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this ai is wacky

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smh they turned dauda white πŸ’€

twin dirge
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"good heavens theres a creature sleeping in my castle"

past bough
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"oh my goodness! we must flee the hell out of the castle before we all fall victim to these monsters!"

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FTHO

nocturne flax
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instead of placing sentries we placing automatic magic bows that shoot magic arrows

past bough
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"This is quite humongous!"

nocturne flax
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get on the magic circle!

past bough
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"Sounds like we stirred up their hive!"
"Prepare yourselves my brothers, they are coming!"

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that's definitely something woods would say

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i forgot he calls them brothers

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HACKETT??!!!

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WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU

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HACKETT!!!!

tribal bear
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Oh no they yassified my angry man

lavish wyvern
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hackett is now a sissy

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kinda like it ngl

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hot hacketts nearby

past bough
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they ruined hackett's masculine irish hotness

lavish wyvern
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hackett would be hot anyway

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i would love if we had merch of the characters

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imagine a hackett plushie

past bough
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yes

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wouldn't take long before he gets in the jar tho

lavish wyvern
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its a sacrifice i'm willing to make

deft kiln
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When r2

lavish wyvern
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when r2

past bough
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shut the fuck up

lavish wyvern
past bough
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die

deft kiln
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R2-3 double drop coming soon

lavish wyvern
pliant pasture
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wHen r2

lavish wyvern
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hen

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GTFO:hen edition

pliant pasture
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once again into the cooplex

lavish wyvern
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the coomplex is a place of misery

pliant pasture
solar finch
deft kiln
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Don’t try and distract me

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When r2

lament drift
pliant pasture
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How r2

atomic escarp
lavish wyvern
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Who is r2 and why do people want them?

lapis agate
lavish wyvern
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Feed him to the pit

lapis agate
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Wrong

lavish wyvern
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Trong

lapis agate
lavish wyvern
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Drong

lapis agate
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I'll let you figure this riddle out

lavish wyvern
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I love riddles

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Whats the riddle?

lapis agate
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Figure it out

lavish wyvern
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Tell me

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Oh but thats no fun

lapis agate
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I'll be as vague as possible until you figure this out

lavish wyvern
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Hmmmm

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Is it glass?

lapis agate
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Bro

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We're not playing the Green Glass Door

lavish wyvern
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Hmmm

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Hmm

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Ok i Give up

lapis agate
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L

lavish wyvern
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Its probably some dumb anwser like time,love or a hole

lapis agate
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No

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So wrong its unbelievable

lavish wyvern
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Is it a book then?

lapis agate
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No

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I have no inclination of telling you

lavish wyvern
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A magazine?

lapis agate
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No

lavish wyvern
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A diary?

lapis agate
lavish wyvern
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OOOH

lapis agate
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Something is wrong in that sentence

lavish wyvern
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Hmmm

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Feed right?

lapis agate
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nooo

lavish wyvern
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Let me use my encyclopedia

lapis agate
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D:

lavish wyvern
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Its the

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I knew it

lapis agate
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noo

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no

#

nooooo

lapis agate
lavish wyvern
#

I've won the riddles

lapis agate
#

You were close with your guess of feed

#

In terms of the word you were referencing

lavish wyvern
#

Food

#

Mmm

lapis agate
#

no

lavish wyvern
#

Food

lapis agate
#

I'm just gonna

#

Wait

#

Until you get this right

lavish wyvern
#

I likes the food

lapis agate
#

It is not the word food

#

but the word feed in the sentence is close to the error

#

in terms of position

lavish wyvern
#

To?

lapis agate
#

not to but also close

lavish wyvern
#

Not to what?

#

Ok

lapis agate
#

the error isnt to

lavish wyvern
#

End of joke

lapis agate
#

No

#

I believe in you

lavish wyvern
#

Its the

#

OOOOOH

lapis agate
#

no

lavish wyvern
#

I get it now

lapis agate
#

What is itr

lavish wyvern
#

I didnt use capital letters

lapis agate
#

no

#

no

#

no

#

just

#

no

lavish wyvern
#

Is it the language right?

lapis agate
#

I'll give you literally the largest hint

lavish wyvern
#

Sori me engirsh is bad

#

Hmmm

lapis agate
#

Why tf did I just get a white ping

#

from the ror2 discord

lavish wyvern
#

Can i have another tip?

lapis agate
lavish wyvern
lapis agate
#

Doesnt seem as such

lavish wyvern
#

Maybe just some random ping

lavish wyvern
lapis agate
#

yes

vapid moon
#

r2e1 ex anyone?

ocean plinth
#

I keep Seeing Reference to R2, Was there an update?

atomic escarp
#

no but it will be out this month

ocean plinth
burnt goblet
#

December 31st most likely

paper harness
#

who r2?

hidden crater
#

me

paper harness
#

how r2

hidden crater
#

irrelevant

paper harness
#

when r2

#

I've deciphered it

#

in the dev leaks, they said they would rerelease alt r2 in december

#

december 2028 r2 drop confirmed

#

🫑

#

need the intern to reroll more map seeds

#

while GTFO2 is in the making

astral ferry
#

"GTFO2"

deft kiln
astral ferry
#

yo that sounds fucking rad

#

it would super cool if they made the caves procedurally generated

turbid briar
#

@deft kiln rock and stone, and all that.

paper harness
lavish wyvern
#

i wish that we could date scouts

#

imagine the possibilities with that many tentacles

#

just clean off those boils

#

take a shower

#

and put a bag over their head

mossy marsh
#

Sir, do not fuck the sleeper

lavish wyvern
#

i gonna fuck a scout and no one is going to stop me

past bough
#

why do people want to have sex with the strikers
they're horrible deformed

#

they don't even have fingers

deft kiln
#

zox

#

dont take away my hope

#

if people want to sleep with the sleepers i am on the table

past bough
#

YOU'D BE FUCKING INFECTED PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING

#

smh

#

fair i guess

deft kiln
#

when r2

past bough
#

shut up

mossy marsh
past bough
#

me

mossy marsh
#

makes sense

past bough
#

dinosaurs

twin dirge
twin dirge
pliant pasture
#

i mean on the table works, if its a scout under the table is on the table too

past bough
#

i mean technically speaking birds are just smaller dinosaurs
crocodiles and alligators are descendants of dinosaurs
so they've definitely fucked the dinosaur family
but dinos themselves nah

#

at least not when they were alive

icy meteor
#

@past bough when r2??????

twin dirge
#

looks like we need to invent time machines

past bough
#

i hope on your next e1 attempt the scout wakes up because of the bugged door

icy meteor
past bough
#

damn

icy meteor
#

xD

twin dirge
#

lmao

atomic escarp
#

but can you tell drg devs to make haz5 what it used to be

#

current haz5 is genuinely boring and a soulless husk compared to what it was

#

old haz5 had at least 2x the spawn rate, 2x the wave size, 2x swarm size

#

it was tryhardy ish to defend but satisfying as heck

#

or they can alter their spawn system because the current one only spawns 3 disruptive enemies from the pool, which is why you only see 3 of them in an expedition(web shooters, acid spitters, menace, mactera spawn, grabber, rolly polly, etc)

mortal granite
#

are you in the correct server?

deft kiln
#

yeah they are talking about gtfo 2

atomic escarp
#

yes gtfo 2 is the drg killer

twin dirge
#

you mean PayDay 3

mossy marsh
#

I'm so bored right now I could unironically play DRG

atomic escarp
#

no payday 3 is made by overkill software which is bought by starbreeze

#

i'm looking forward to payday -2 tho

#

play drg where bullets of mercy gk2 is the better version of executioner smart rifle

lavish wyvern
#

Hey guys is the alternative rundown 2 for the game Get The Fuck Out released yet?

atomic escarp
#

This month

#

When exactly god knows

real moss
#

but not what year

#

so ........πŸ‘€

burnt goblet
#

December 31st

mortal granite
#

they drop 2 new logs on santonian website

#

so might be next week

#

either 8th of december or 15th of december

reef talon
#

Rip, people kept telling me it would be the 1st but it wasn't

real moss
reef talon
#

Indeed

real moss
twin dirge
#

sometime December

reef talon
#

R2 is fun but more excited for the misery of 3

twin dirge
#

2024

reef talon
#

With even worse infection

real moss
mortal granite
#

R2 was too hard, devs listen to player and drop it down a notch

reef talon
#

It has been so long I remember little. Wasn't only the final level of R2 really hard?

real moss
#

walked a bit too much out in the sun have Yah guvnah?

twin dirge
#

R3 is harder than R2??? SantonianWhatElse

twin dirge
#

PirateSimon clearly they are more skilled than us

real moss
#

Like R3 has R3D1 as a challenge. that's it

reef talon
#

Ah

twin dirge
#

they know something about R3 that we don't

real moss
#

R2 had R2D1, R2D2,R2E1

#

the rest is kinda ez as well

reef talon
#

Maybe I am thinking of 4 being more annoying for me, but that's also because I didn't have the time then to complete it

real moss
reef talon
#

Actually right

#

I never did 3

#

It was 4

#

Only rundown I completely missed entirely was 3 as I recall now

real moss
#

3 was very short as well

real moss
#

and beeg mommy

twin dirge
reef talon
#

I was bogged down by university at the time lol

pliant pasture
#

it'll be today

knotty barn
#

really looking forward to the R3 release, it was the rundown where I got into the game :D. We struggled so hard we couldn't even do the C levels xD. I am curious to see how things have changed ^^

hidden crater
#

you mean R4? R3 came out yesterday

pliant pasture
real moss
atomic escarp
#

πŸ€“

hidden crater
#

I added another one

#

It's c levels now

deft kiln
#

Team I bring an important question to the gtfo spoiler chat. when r2

past bough
#

gtfo players stop asking for r2 for 1 hour challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (GONE WRONG) (GONE SEXUAL) (WE DIDN'T GET THE FUCK OUT)

pallid sapphire
#

everytime we ask for r2, they delay it by 3 hours

hidden crater
atomic escarp
#

how's r2

pallid sapphire
#

r2 isn't doing so well locked up in its cage, we need to let it out

#

wait didn't r2 have the weird cell cluster that changed the fog levels everytime you put in a cell

#

a or b tier level iirc

atomic escarp
#

r2d1 statistics

#

5 cells

#

1 in spawn

pallid sapphire
#

oh lol why did i think it was a or b

atomic escarp
#

then the others can be in the 2 blood door zones, 9 or 10 scouts zone

#

key zone, the 2 class 4 zones

pallid sapphire
#

can't wait to see how they nerf the shit outta that one πŸ‘

atomic escarp
#

they already did

#

you have r5/7 sniper

pallid sapphire
#

lmfao no wayyyy\

atomic escarp
#

sniper sentry

#

back in r2, you have a 30 dmg sniper with no precision multi, so it does poo poo dmg

#

also r5 mines

#

and they changed blood door mechanics

errant vigil
#

Not really

#

You just use less mines

pallid sapphire
#

i mean yeah experience and all that but i absolutely do not remember r1 being that easy lmao

errant vigil
#

It always was

#

Just like R2

#

We’re just more experienced

pallid sapphire
#

ammo counts too though? the resources seem insane. we do have crazy guns now

errant vigil
#

I mean you could run around forever pre R6 made a lot of shit easier

prisma zodiac
#

the only thing that is actually insanely stronger is the tools

#

litteraly all of them (bar shotgun sentry) got giga buffs

#

r1 overall was just a run in and hammer everything tho outside of c1 and d1 i guess

errant vigil
#

Not with shotgun sentry bug

#

That’s better than any sniper sentry

prisma zodiac
#

ah yes
shotgun sentry (bug) got nerfed into sniper sentry BigBrain

#

but tbh, id rather use sniper sentry + bio than shotgun sentrys
a lot more reliable and doesnt need a bug to work

pallid sapphire
#

i mean if they aren't going to lock loadouts since they were balanced around them, especially based on how they worked at the time, just like double the enemies or something cause r1 has absolutely no replayability. waste of time

#

i am mad about video games

prisma zodiac
#

eh

#

i mean we dont even have the busted guns rn

#

no hel gun, burst cannon

candid dragon
#

Man shouts at windmill

prisma zodiac
#

r1 never had replayability in the sense a lot of people seem to shit talk the alt version rn

#

then again. for me it has quite a bit
tho tbh speedrunning just makes the levels more exciting for me

pallid sapphire
#

that's why i'm mad, i mean this to me means 'we are going to make it harder' but it's literally just a few tilesets that are different

prisma zodiac
#

i mean yeah?

#

i also thought theyd do more

#

but i understand the approach to not changing it up massively

atomic escarp
#

well how much can you add to r1

prisma zodiac
#

they put in hybrids (tho imo they should have way higher spawn chances in both c1 and d1)

#

if you add too much its not rly r1 anymore

#

the only way i couldve seen them rly make levels harder is by adding optionals
but that was probably too much effort sadly

atomic escarp
#

you didn't like 40% of the spawns is now occupied by giants/hybrids in d1 alarms

#

new dangers bro

prisma zodiac
#

40% ?

#

hybrids rarely spawn
giants spawned before

#

but what do you wanna add as new dangers?

#

giant chargers? people would say its cheap
mom/dad? yeah sure musicmommyOMEGALUL if you have no clue

extra optionals and minor changes (at least for r1) wouldve been the only way

past bough
#

i hate hybrids

nocturne flax
#

@broken scarab is r2e1 error alarm gonna be the same or is it gonna be seeded to always spawn behind the player?

#

Please do take the chance to rework some of the maps flaws and issues from r2 and onwards

mortal portal
#

PR will be nerfed to 4 shots and reload increased to 5.5 PepeStare

pallid sapphire
#

πŸ’€

winter wharf
mortal portal
#

I hope they keep the spawns as they are on R2D2

#

Split hold my beloved

atomic escarp
#

solo holds it with sniper sentry

boreal tendon
prisma zodiac
#

i mean enemys spawning on scouts isnt rly difficulty

mortal portal
#

Just replace error waves with chargers PepeStare

mortal portal
boreal tendon
#

a single person will be able to hold the waves for like 10 minutes removing any pressure

#

that is, if they are too lazy to hammer and just shoot

prisma zodiac
#

wasnt the wave size in the 6+ after 10 minutes?

yeah have fun holding that solo with all the unlimited ammo

boreal tendon
#

that's a single revo mag

pallid sapphire
#

my ego is not sufficiently boosted

boreal tendon
#

not to mention you can go cringe and triple hammer it kekw

prisma zodiac
#

so the same shit as before?

#

why are you even complaining then

#

like you could do the same fuckin thing back then

boreal tendon
#

except you needed to save doors

prisma zodiac
#

just with the point of them spawning in front with next to no skill expression outside of waiting

boreal tendon
#

and kill scouts πŸ™‚

prisma zodiac
#

nah, you could always just kill the spawned waves and shoot better right?
its only like 10 enemys more. so why cry

#

a max of 2 revolver mags

boreal tendon
#

2 is more than 1 in my book

prisma zodiac
#

oh no! instead of 10 min you now hold 9:00

#

shiiiit

#

you want them to also give us trashy flashlights again so its impossible to see past 1 1/2 meters sometimes?

#

oh yeah and burst sentry that misses any crawler

#

man that was SKILL expressive

boreal tendon
#

do you always assume random shit about people on the internet?

#

or is that only here?

olive shoal
#

careful now

#

You’re talking to the #1 EVAL speedrunner!

prisma zodiac
#

hey at least im still having fun with the game

#

and aint crying like a toddler about everything

pallid sapphire
#

πŸ’€

olive shoal
#

Can’t say I’ve seen panda crying about everything but

prisma zodiac
#

like, holy

i also criticize the devs. But some people are just insufferable

olive shoal
#

Whatever u say

prisma zodiac
#

this isnt to panda per se, its happening so fucking often about the tiniest things

#

and the funniest shit is when some people cry about 1 thing
devs actually do smth against it
and then the same people (or some others) cry that they fixed that thing

boreal tendon
#

except that's not a fix, it's design change that makes level easier

pallid sapphire
#

i mean like, there's some stuff thats different that's 'easier' but also way less annoying

#

like remember the old fog? lol

prisma zodiac
#

fixing bad rng out of it is good

theres times where forward spawns actually make it exciting. But id rather have them take them away from R2E1 and make it more difficult in another way

i doubt they will do that (sadly enough lol) but id rather have a fixed version over hoping i dont get shit rng

boreal tendon
#

old fog didn't steal my frames as much though

prisma zodiac
#

i mean if someone wants to meme on the devs, then meme r7d1 🀑
they fixed like 5 major bugs already and it still has twice as many left musicmommyOMEGALUL

atomic escarp
#

multiple enemy spawn is part of the game 😏

prisma zodiac
#

but yeah. sorry about that outrage panda
shit day yesterday and some people on here legit behave like kids sometimes (well some probably are actually in that age range)

boreal tendon
#

you can either hope you don't get shit rng or play around it

#

or you could nerf the level so you don't have to do either

prisma zodiac
#

best way is to take rng away and exchange it for a more balanced difficulty

boreal tendon
#

you are calling people kids

prisma zodiac
#

say, enemies ramping up quicker. more scouts, more enemys etc (as examples)

boreal tendon
#

and say this

#

knowing the devs

prisma zodiac
#

i mean "best way"

#

i dont expect them to do it

boreal tendon
#

what the pepeCopium

prisma zodiac
boreal tendon
#

kids are naive in general, that's the connection

atomic escarp
#

genuinely hoping there's no spawn bias on r2e1

#

it's part of the difficulty

prisma zodiac
#

did i say that i think thats what theyll do

i said thats what i would think is the best way of doing it

#

id be far more worried about r2d2

#

the whole level becomes soft if they only spawn from 1 path

boreal tendon
#

i'd rather have practical thinking than dreams

atomic escarp
#

especially on last surge alarm zone push, them spawning ahead while having the room ahead packed can be quite intense

#

losing doors prematurely for careless pushes too

prisma zodiac
#

since im not dreaming of them doing it
i very much doubt it

boreal tendon
#

that doesn't add to the reality of altR2 though

prisma zodiac
#

there is no reality of altr2 rn

boreal tendon
#

changing a single number to alter spawn direction might happen, changing whole error will not

prisma zodiac
#

in likelyhood of said change happening, i very much agree

velvet linden
#

@boreal tendon do you think that they should at least prevent scouts spawning inside blood door rooms so that they immediately wake up when the blood door opens?

boreal tendon
#

yes

atomic escarp
#

well there are ways to bypass it if you're smrt

#

smiley face

boreal tendon
#

but not sure if they are able to (at least i am not). You set spawns per zone, not per room

prisma zodiac
#

@boreal tendon theres always been rooms with 0 or next to 0 spawn chances for enemys tho

#

r1a1 is a good example actually

#

scouts dont spawn in a or b

#

could they work of that?

velvet linden
nocturne flax
atomic escarp
#

it's a nerf, but not a significant one for players who are in e tier

nocturne flax
#

Waves stack up pretty quickly and also it removes the stupid rng thats not skillfull at all

prisma zodiac
#

also man, i love how some people appearantly think that me having grinded eval means, that i think of myself as a skilled player for that
shows you more about them then theyd think 🀑

prisma zodiac
#

uhh i could send a map if you want

atomic escarp
#

You grinded eval? What for?

boreal tendon
#

ill manage

prisma zodiac
rich estuary
#

Grinded eval, what the hell?

atomic escarp
#

Ah

#

he likes having time gated records

prisma zodiac
#

i was trying to get a quicker time. Same as wesley

#

i mean... all levels are time gated? musicmommyThink

#

thats how time ... works

velvet linden
#

@boreal tendon So do you think that there is a significant difference between removing scouts from blood door rooms and stopping sleepers spawning ahead during error alarms? if so, please explain

pallid sapphire
#

petitioning to pause split timer on zone doors as they are time gates

prisma zodiac
#

i mean. significant? maybe not too much

blooddoor scouts mostly are decently hard to avoid (especially in rush scenarios)
front error spawns can at least (mostly) be worked around by waiting for a spawn i guess?

prisma zodiac
boreal tendon
#

first, there is technical thing. Second, scout is a one-time only thing without any pressure and you can easily set up for it. Front wave breaking a door ahead has infinitely more implications

prisma zodiac
#

but yeah
scouts behind blood doors should technically be possible to work around

unless them not spawning in specific rooms for some zones is totally random (kinda doubt that with all the number stuff going on)

velvet linden
#

so front waves should stay a thing because they are worse for the player and harder to deal with the consequences of?

boreal tendon
#

yes

atomic escarp
#

i guess they should also make scout waves affected by spawn bias too!

#

as well as alarm waves!

#

they're all same concepts, it's unskillful to be affected by rng!

boreal tendon
#

use a checkpoint and seed remains PirateSimon

nocturne flax
#

I love forwards spawn, the consequences are the most skillfull thing in the world

You sit and wait for thw spawn to come at you and then wait for the next spawn to see if you push or not!

#

Increadivly difficult

west crow
#

Oh God they spawned in the d2 charger zone oh God i have to wait oh God they spawned again oh no oh dear oh God

nocturne flax
#

Seed that sucker

boreal tendon
#

@prisma zodiac just spawned in r1a1, got scout in b of zone 50

prisma zodiac
#

pic?

atomic escarp
#

same with alarms and scout waves!

#

they should always spawn from elevator side

prisma zodiac
#

ive legit never seen that with at least over 200 attempts in said level
so knowing it could happen would be good info @boreal tendon

boreal tendon
#

actually it's c, my bad

west crow
#

"I think forward spawns are tedious and more annoying than difficult"
"sO YoU want EveRTHInG tO bE sEEdED tHEN?"

prisma zodiac
#

yes i want all enemys to only run at me in a straight line

#

enemys are also in a straight line in front of me

#

no more variation

#

also only 1 enemy type

atomic escarp
#

why yes i do believe rng is part of the difficulty and replayability

#

it's about improvisation

nocturne flax
#

Ah yes the improv of sitting on my ass

velvet linden
west crow
#

Yeah but there's a difference between spawn rng, and having to pause game play to wait for a forward spawn to walk to you so it doesn't scream a room awake

prisma zodiac
#

man badger you sure would want them to also randomize ressources then right?
like lets have the chance for ammo to only spawn on extraction kappa

west crow
#

That isn't fun

nocturne flax
#

Because one stupid wave spawn further and now i either gotta wait or push back a room or two

atomic escarp
#

can't believe my 6 use ammopack got split into a 3 3 uses

#

what will i do now

boreal tendon
#

pretty sure that was the thinking of everyone who was tryharding R2E1 back in the day

rich estuary
#

3 use thonking

prisma zodiac
#

nah
you now get the 6 use ammo only on the forward extract scan since you like rng so much

boreal tendon
#

i know about every single game mechanic, therefore I see no change in difficulty between front and back waves, only boredom

#

that was exactly everyone's thought

west crow
#

Then why would you want a mechanic that makes the game boring

prisma zodiac
#

aha

boreal tendon
#

i am merely sarcastically quoting others πŸ™‚

prisma zodiac
#

ah text makes it hard to see that sometimes

west crow
#

You gotta use quotations for that buddy

#

Like this
"I personally prefer tedious mechanics shrouded as difficulty because I have no understanding of what fun is"

boreal tendon
#

yes, it won't make much difference for vets. Vets don't really play vanilla with 4 stacks to get challenged though

velvet linden
#

so you want it there exclusively to fuck over less expierenced players?

west crow
#

So it doesn't make a difference, but when it does it's annoying

boreal tendon
#

it does for new players

west crow
#

Yeah but the learning curve is arbitrary

#

There's nothing to gain out of it

rich estuary
#

New players won't get far enough to experience these issues πŸ˜”

boreal tendon
#

pretty sure they will

atomic escarp
#

time to make r4a2 ovl boring

#

r4b2 ovl boring

west crow
#

Gaslighting!!!!

prisma zodiac
#

i dont see how r4a2 overload is suddenly fun with forward spawn musicmommyThink it just means "do we get room + scout or not"

west crow
#

Thats not an opinion I was able to catch that nice try πŸ€“

prisma zodiac
#

i mean they could always make it only forward spawn if you like that so much for r4a2 ovl d4rkevDerp

boreal tendon
#

pretty sure they coulnd't kappa

west crow
#

Technically a spawn wave in the direction you're looking is a forward spawn πŸ€“

prisma zodiac
west crow
#

Omg hi ztriw πŸ‘‹

#

πŸ₯°πŸ₯°πŸ˜πŸ˜

errant vigil
atomic escarp
#

well i guess people do want a streamlined experience, when there's quite a few scenarios where an error alarm with a spawn bias makes it less chaotic and fun

#

but that's just me

errant vigil
#

Do you wait for forward spawns

atomic escarp
#

not really

prisma zodiac
#

i mean after 4 thousand hours id expect any streamlined part to be boring lol

#

in an optimal world it would depend on the situation in a level

#

but we do know that wont happen

nocturne flax
#

Gotta love how we were shitting of forward spawns for like 2 years

#

And now its like nah

#

I wanna play the waiting game again

#

Fuck that

#

Give me seeded r2e1

#

Suck my big donkey kong Di

atomic escarp
#

it does speed up level completions by at least 10-20 mins

boreal tendon
#

pretty sure you can get it yourself with changing one number in the datablocks

west crow
#

The same level you played 50 times when the 2 use ammo pack has moved 😱

atomic escarp
#

r3c1 but you send a man to shoot error while the other 3 find hsu

#

r3d1 but you send sniper man to shoot giant and hammer error while the other 3 find key

west crow
#

Maybe add actual functional game variety other than things moving around and spawning awkwardly

boreal tendon
#

except, it's not gonna happen

atomic escarp
#

r4a2 ovl, but you send a man kill 2 wave size error while the other 3 clear the 2 scouts

boreal tendon
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so i'd prefer to have those things moving around instead of not having them

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at least

atomic escarp
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r4b2pe but you send a revolver to kill the 3 wave size error while the other 3 does everything

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r4c3 but you send choke mod to kill charger wave while the other 3 does everything

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r4d2 but you cfoam the entire shadow error

west crow
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NOOO

boreal tendon
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holy fuck yes

west crow
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NOT THE GAMEPLAY LOOP

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A GAIN

atomic escarp
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r4e1 but 2 people just nuke tank

boreal tendon
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that's genius

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gimme the backspawns so i can foam

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yes

west crow
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R5a1 but someone is standing in the spawn zones to stop spawns

atomic escarp
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r5a3 but you can rush all the giants in key zone

west crow
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R5c1 but someone is standing in the spawn zones to stop spawns

atomic escarp
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r5b2 but you don't need to worry about osip zones and high giant cell zone

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r5b3 but you just have hel gun/rifle deal with chargers while the other 3 finds key

west crow
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Thank you for clarifying πŸ™

atomic escarp
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r5c3 would actually be fun tho

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r5e1 but you just have 2 people hammer the 6 wave size error

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cell skip becomes 3x easier too

west crow
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Why is r5c3 fun

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It's just permafoaming

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And code RESIST

atomic escarp
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you can't cfoam the wave now, because they spawn elevator side

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well not until you reach extract

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then you cfoam that

west crow
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Is that the point you're making?

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You could've just said that at the start

nocturne flax
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Suck my donkey kong @ss

west crow
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The wise tree has spoken

atomic escarp
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ass

west crow
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He can't swear (he will be permabanned)

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What's your opinion on the spear fetus deletus

atomic escarp
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r5c1 maybe also good

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but people usually clear the cocoon waves

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now the shadow giant from ex doesn't cause minor chaos

west crow
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Fetus deletus do you have an opinion on the melee weapon the spear

velvet linden
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r5c1 was a terrible level

atomic escarp
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no

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what

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r5c1 actually good

velvet linden
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no

west crow
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Hold on let me stand in the spawns

atomic escarp
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player choice

boreal tendon
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good for floodways

west crow
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The best player choice is to choose not to play the game

atomic escarp
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r5c1 probably best floodways level

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hell yeah

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it's a player choice to install the game

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😎

west crow
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The illusion of player choice

rich estuary
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The illusion of player

west crow
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πŸ„ choice 1 choice 1

atomic escarp
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you will uninstall gtfo for cyberpunk payday

west crow
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I can't wait to play another early access

atomic escarp
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do you think they will pull a payday beep