Bc they dont shoot him either
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
daring pilot
nocturne flax
Because last time i played r7e1 they didnt do jack shit of staying away from pablo
daring pilot
When was that tho
daring pilot
Yeah, I didn’t bring bots on E1 after I saw them handle him so badly the first time
nocturne flax
And it was last patch before alt r1
daring pilot
Prolly why this change went under the radar for so many ppl
nocturne flax
Yeah they can backpedal but if you dont get out from tongje range he just gonna raycast theyre goofy asses
daring pilot
I immediately can imagine a deathloop scenario
Where he cant hit them but they keep reviving u
And he’s on top of u
daring pilot
Yeah true
nocturne flax
Pablo the least of the bots worries kekw
daring pilot
Yeah
atomic escarp
Not like there isnt snatchers and a 2 tanks in thst level
ive made it past the blood door but died on the charger zone scan
nocturne flax
Pablo ignoring bots would be a nice qlo
daring pilot
Well technically snatchers but yknow
nocturne flax
Snatchers ignore bots
daring pilot
Yeah, least of their worries
nocturne flax
pls 10cc make pablo ignore bots too
daring pilot
Maybe only target bots if all players are down, idk
nocturne flax
Maybe only target bots if all players are down, idk
Good idea
Improve biitracker bot on stealth
hallow lark
Lol
twin dirge
biitracker
mortal portal
biitracker
nocturne flax
Biitracker
raven flare
biitracker
pliant pasture
biitracker
pliant pasture
GTFO gaydar rebranding
atomic escarp
no
past bough
bisexualtracker
pliant pasture
i would not buy a gay tracker
past bough
oh but i will
hexed vapor
They silently added a new apparel unlock?
raven flare
i saw the same thing happen with the red kovac mask
maybe its the same
and in a couple hours they r gonna announce it
past bough
what apparel?
raven flare
a color palette, onyx uh resuscitation or something like that?
runic mauve
is it just for completing any expedition?
raven flare
idk, someone said C2 i think, even when it was already completed
burnt goblet
If they do post R8 content updates, having them do weekly challenges (?) Or something of the like for apparel would be good. Something like complete R2B1 in under 40 minutes or complete any D level without anyone on your team downing once
Something to make you go back and play, even if just once
raven flare
i think that idea was proposed once, and
it wasnt very well accepted, weekly things to do just sits weird
im sure others had other reasons
pliant pasture
i unlocked the onyx palete for a random refinish of a R7 mission, if you do a mission today it will unlock. idk how long it will last
burnt goblet
i think that idea was proposed once, and
it wasnt very well accepted, weekly thi...
Well at some point, youre going to have every level done and thus no incentive to do any of the levels again. It's just an idea, because once r8 launches that's it, and this game is gonna die within a month or 2 after launch (just like with every rundown)
pliant pasture
gamers con one was around for a couple weeks? the halloween mask was also two ish weeks
raven flare
Well at some point, youre going to have every level done and thus no incentive t...
idk, i dont know to feel about those
you can maybe search the reasons somewhere
burnt goblet
Well, as I said its just an idea
mortal granite
Well at some point, youre going to have every level done and thus no incentive t...
since you don't have any incentive to it again, why would a weekly challenge make them redo those level?
unless you randomize the tiles into different tiles, it might give player something to do
burnt goblet
Because you get a reward for doing it
mortal granite
reward in this game are just random skin which doesn't do much
some very few people in here might do it
burnt goblet
Plenty of people would lol
And tbf apparel is the only reward this game can realistically do
pliant pasture
drip do be frosty
past bough
imagine a cosmetic item you can only get by beating an entire level solo
or
you only get it by beating every e1 level solo
glass sundial
That would just lead to even more solo cheese clears
raven flare
doing e1 solo its
hard, suprisingly, even for veterans
glass sundial
The issue is adding rewards for soloing levels that maybe the top 0.001% of players can do legitimately will lead to mass exploiting
nocturne flax
Plays a game that the whole slogan its all about teamwork and dying together "gETT1ng RewARd f0R dOINg SolO"
past bough
yeah obviously that would be a bad idea
but i think it would be funny if they did it just to flip off the community 
nocturne flax
they already do by how they developed the game
past bough
add more flame to the fire
nocturne flax
but im still amazed by people asking for solo stuff
its not fun to do, not fun to watch
past bough
i can't even solo r1a1 💀
nocturne flax
you gotta do shit to exploit the game anyways in a lot of more challenging solos and shit
legit if you want more replayability, ill be down more by having tweakable settings to change a level
rather than whatever "solo reward"
but thankfully neither of those things will happen
theres more chance of mm actually getting updated than that
strange junco
hexed vapor
New cosmetic might mean AltR2?
Just a bit odd for it to drop out of nowhere, for no apparent reason.
prisma zodiac
If it drops this week then it dropped 1 month after r1
bold widget
something tells me it won't
real moss
something tells me it won't
If they release it in october 2023 it will be a year after R1
bold widget
lmao
atomic escarp
So there's a new cosmetic and no explanation as of why?
Maybe because of Black Friday?
perhaps?
atomic escarp
I assume because in some places it's the 22nd of November right now and that's when steam sales are supposed to start
And it was linked to that or something. I've no idea
broken scarab
So there's a new cosmetic and no explanation as of why?
Hm, wait a minute
atomic escarp
I'm counting to 60
broken scarab
So you can obtain that... now-now?
broken scarab
Interesting
atomic escarp
Can I try and getting it or do I risk borking something?
Doesn't hurt to bork something
broken scarab
Can I try and getting it or do I risk borking something?
No problem if you get it
atomic escarp
ok
burnt goblet
So you can obtain that... now-now?
Guessing it was unintentional, given that there's no announcement to go alongside it like normal apparel events?
real moss
Or is the event being announced very soon?
subtle vault
👀
broken scarab
the plan was for it to go live midnight tonight, not last night 🙂 And to announce here on Discord this afternoon. But timezones and such tends to mess you up!
burnt goblet
Understandable
real moss
the plan was for it to go live midnight tonight, not last night 🙂 And to announ...
Might it be tied to a certain Alt rundown being released? 👀
broken scarab
Sorry, no.
burnt goblet
You got your hopes up my guy
real moss
You got your hopes up my guy
Nah in that case I would ask R8
burnt goblet
Trust me, I'm sure Calle gets 50 dms a day about AltR2
twin dirge
when R2
real moss
What R2
If you really want to subvert expectations. release Alt R5 today and watch the community crumble from confusion and rage
burnt goblet
Calle, y'all gotta release alt r2 so we can watch you Livestream while you fail succeed in R2E1!
real moss
Calle, y'all gotta release alt r2 so we can watch you Livestream while you ~~fai...
R2C1* fixed it for you
burnt goblet
Community-Calle triggers scout, asked to leave the complex
broken scarab
Calle, y'all gotta release alt r2 so we can watch you Livestream while you ~~fai...
This will hurt me
I killed a scout last stream!
With my sledgie
no foam required
burnt goblet
Congratulations! Now do it with a knife 😎
broken scarab
👀
atomic escarp
onyx corruption
burnt goblet
Hey, what are your favorite weapons to use?
broken scarab
broken scarab
Hey, what are your favorite weapons to use?
Me? I like the precision rifle or the heavy assault rifle. Often drop with the carbine as well
burnt goblet
Based Carbine User detected
prisma zodiac
Sorry, no.
millions of lifes, extinguished in a moment
broken scarab
Based Carbine User detected
It goes brrrt
burnt goblet
Carbine, Hel revolver and pdw for primary
Hi caliber Pistol, Combat Shotgun, low rpm machine gunr for secondary
Carbine does go brrrrt
prisma zodiac
revert heavy assault rifle recoil back to r6 
i loved the gun so much, i cant bear what it has become
burnt goblet
Learn to control it
broken scarab
I'm running the AK74 in MW2, all stats on ADS speed. It has a crazy kick but mastering is my purpose in life.
burnt goblet
Oop there's the announcement!
prisma zodiac
its not just "kick" its the gun spraying around wildly which isnt actually coherent with the increased recoil
burnt goblet
It's still not that hard, and if you're having trouble just tap fire it. I don't even use it that much but when I do I don't have a problem
Used it a lot during C3PE
prisma zodiac
have you extensively played it in r6?
it was my favourite gun then
so the difference just makes me dislike it
gun FEELS bad
and with machine gun(s) being better and having a similar kick id rather just practice them
gaunt torrent
is the Hel gun only in R6 or in previous rundowns as well? thats the gun i miss
atomic escarp
r3, r5, r6
gaunt torrent
Hell yeah
hard basin
Been a month since R1 re-release, surely R2 should be due now?
real moss
Been a month since R1 re-release, surely R2 should be due now?
As said above by the community manager: no
hard basin
Not looking good for R8's timeline then unless things speed up
real moss
Not looking good for R8's timeline then unless things speed up
R8 was already confirmed for: not this year
keen rampart
Not looking good for R8's timeline then unless things speed up
Speed up xD not in this game... as you can see... we got a new Palette.. should be enough for this year...
broken scarab
>R2 never releasing
My mom used to comfort me saying that "never" is the longest word there is
broken scarab
As said above by the community manager: no
Not now-now. Yes.
rigid escarp
If you really want to subvert expectations. release Alt R5 today and watch the c...
Oh boy I can't wait to fail an A level mission again
hard basin
Obviously. I mean in terms of it coming by the middle of next year. Even if a re-released rundown is every 2 months, that puts R8 in Dec 2023/Jan 2024. Too far away.
@real moss
robust marsh
Obviously. I mean in terms of it coming by the middle of next year. Even if a re...
MF it took them 6 months to re-release R1 without any difference do you really have that much faith
?
real moss
Obviously. I mean in terms of it coming by the middle of next year. Even if a re...
Obv it's gonna be too far 😔
plush basin
Implementing the multiple rundown chassis must have taken some work, I'd have hoped that after that the rundowns would have come out at a nice pace but its already taking longer than I expected
hard basin
@robust marsh yeah, I know R1 took 6 months. A 2 month gap is me hoping that I'm not far off their intended schedule, but I'm low on faith.
If it is 6 months per release the game will be dead long before R8. There's no debate on that.
So, hopefully, 6 months for R1 was an outlier.
robust marsh
<@569403083038392343> yeah, I know R1 took 6 months. A 2 month gap is me hoping ...
the game is already on life support
R2 could have been re-released within 2 weeks
or 1
hard basin
I was.hoping for a release every 2 weeks up until R8. That would have been great.
robust marsh
cause there not changing anything really
sorry buddy they gotta work on the new game
when they haven't even fixed nor finished the first one
unless it was never suppose to be a finished game
but a funding campagin
hard basin
Aye. It is a shame, I'm just being hopeful. I haven't played rereleased R1, I was.looking forward to R8.
atomic escarp
i think all of us are
robust marsh
Aye. It is a shame, I'm just being hopeful. I haven't played rereleased R1, I wa...
play modded problem fixed
hard basin
There's a couple of levels in R2 I'd love to ay again, but apart from that, R8 is what I'm waiting for.
hard basin
Haven't looked into modded tbh
hard basin
If there are new challenges I'd consider it
robust marsh
If there are new challenges I'd consider it
there is alot of new challenges
the fact that some rundowns don't need Artificial difficulty (aka just putting alot of enemies inside a room or just stacking alarms) is mind blowing
hard basin
Cool. I'll have a look into it in a couple of weeks when I'm back home
robust marsh
GL
broken scarab
It won't take 6 months between ALTR1 and ALTR2
atomic escarp
2months? 👀
olive shoal
kind surge
42 years
pliant pasture
hmm how long does the community event run through?
daring pilot
hmm how long does the community event run through?
21st to 28th
kind surge
hmm how long does the community event run through?
The post said. Couple weeks.
Oh
I guess just one week
Why so short?
daring pilot
Alt R1 came like a week before
prisma zodiac
It won't take 6 months between ALTR1 and ALTR2
the best and worst thing to say 
i hoped we would get alt rundowns ~every month, 2 months at the most
i mean we arent even a month in yet so ill keep hoping :I
robust marsh
It won't take 6 months between ALTR1 and ALTR2
so 5 months?
(:
it doesn't help when you say it doesn't take that long calle im sorry'
i know you are trying so thats a plus
broken scarab
It's not helping with you assuming the worst either, but here we are 🙂
west crow
There's like a huge pile of unreleased cosmetics and you choose a recolor
See you in two months when they recolor the e1 mask again
kind surge
i hoped we would get alt rundowns ~every month, 2 months at the most
i mean we ...
Who told you that? Your expectations might as well be a toddler climbing Mt. Everest
It takes us half a year to get 13 levels.
It's been that way for a long time.
prisma zodiac
yes?
obtuse surge
R2 on start of sale
prisma zodiac
but these arent exactly new levels they have to totally rebalance lol
obtuse surge
tomorrow
kind surge
They won't get magically faster, ESPECIALLY since they've got their team working on a new game now and not GTFO
deft kiln
Yeah true how many levels did you build in two months frosty for your rundown
kind surge
We aren't supposed to talk about modding in this server.
deft kiln
Ofc Ofc
kind surge
But 13 rn.
deft kiln
Well two months seems like a okayish timeline imo maybe 3
kind surge
I also don't have the dev tools they do, so what I'm doing should be slower than them
Not faster
obtuse surge
stay frosty
kind surge
Man's always gaslighting
Care to elaborate or give a single example
deft kiln
Man's always gaslighting
Gotta love the chaotic evil gtfo spoiler posts
deft kiln
Always
hexed vapor
I'm big on one guy theory, tbh.
west crow
They're working Simon to death
hexed vapor
Alt rundowns are just one dude on the GTFO grind.
deft kiln
I'm big on one guy theory, tbh.
I think calle has been taught how to make gtfo levels at this point
He is the one doing it
west crow
They're going to do a double drop of rundown 2 and 3
hexed vapor
Careful, that's a pretty high dose for copium.
kind surge
There is no information to even imply that
pliant pasture
obtuse surge
DOUBLE DROP
pliant pasture
They're going to do a double drop of rundown 2 and 3
theres not evidence there WON'T be a double drop
deft kiln
They are gonna drop alt rundown 6 next
kind surge
If your going to sit here mocking me I'm just not gonna bother talking to you.
pliant pasture
👀
obtuse surge
i'm always leaking
prisma zodiac
i'm always leaking
west crow
Oops mistype
deft kiln
Naaa beep is just chaotic evil poster
west crow
I'm a big man of faith
deft kiln
You gotta love it
obtuse surge
minor spelling mistake 
west crow
Hey mods if you're reading this, this is all fun and games please do not ban me
Please
broken scarab
There's like a huge pile of unreleased cosmetics and you choose a recolor
Its a ”run through A1” palette
west crow
Omg hi Calle 🥰🥰😍😍
velvet linden
simp
west crow
I don't know what you meant by that sentence 🥰🥰😍😍
deft kiln
Its a ”run through A1” palette
Based
velvet linden
based on what
west crow
I still don't know what that's supposed to mean
velvet linden
get out of my house
west crow
It's a "run through a1" kind of sentence
velvet linden
that's what I'm sayin
rich estuary
you're welkcom
pliant pasture
never been to welk .com
west crow
you're welkcom
PEE COLORED
broken scarab
I mean, it wasnt a retort. People are getting worked up about a palette.
west crow
I meant "retort" by "witty reply"
broken scarab
Yea yea. Know what it means 😉
pliant pasture
red makes bulls mad, grey makes GTFOers blind with rage?
west crow
Thank you Calle 🥰😍🥰
broken scarab
It wasn’t meant as such
rich estuary
I think people are anxious for r2 or r8 is all
deft kiln
@broken scarab Calle if we teach you how to make a edited level can you make one for us 😍😍
rich estuary
:( mod stuff is not for here
deft kiln
I mean an edited level
west crow
I love edited levels 😉
pliant pasture
a remix-calle version!
broken scarab
You mean the r2 r3 double drop
Double whammy
pliant pasture
a remix level
broken scarab
<@264164771669082112> Calle if we teach you how to make a edited level can you m...
I want to make beard cosmetic
deft kiln
I want to make beard cosmetic
I mean that would be hype, new cosmetics plus a new calleRundown
broken scarab
Calledown
deft kiln
You already have the perfect name
broken scarab
Calling down the Calledown
past bough
femboy cosmetics when
deft kiln
We have to teach calle to make them so he can sneak them in the code commits
pliant pasture
mwuhaha! the devs thought they were hiring a man on the inside of the community, but it will be us who has a man on the inside of the studio!
deft kiln
Calle has been saying based things recently I think he is already a plant
pliant pasture
such a plant that the biome tiles might have been his idea
deft kiln
Everything is falling in to place
pliant pasture
plants planting more plants. we're in the endgame now bois
prisma zodiac
gardens dragging down our fps like calle will be dragging down the wool from ours eyes about the greatness of beard cosmetics
deft kiln
Rundown 8 final boss is gonna be calle and the reward will be calle beard
pliant pasture
and the enemy name will be Calle-mass
atomic escarp
well that's new
someone joined a lobby just to grief at a team scan and kill everyone with a mine
pliant pasture
What level?
atomic escarp
R1A1 but still
2 years and first time this happened on a group made on discord
I've had people cheating but this is a first
past bough
cringe
pliant pasture
hmmm bummer, were either of the other two players on the lobby new?
because that would make it a lot worse
errant vigil
Pubs are just unfun
Most just want to cheese everything
R7E1 easy level, proceeds to cheese and play the level slow as shit
atomic escarp
hmmm bummer, were either of the other two players on the lobby new?
to be honest no idea
past bough
i like r7e1 besides pablo
but yeah it's no fun when you cheese the fuck out of everything
most of the time i don't care but i usually prefer not to cheese
errant vigil
Immortal is fun if you don't lollygag around
past bough
eh
it's just boring to babysit him
broken scarab
mwuhaha! the devs thought they were hiring a man on the inside of the community,...
Lets go!
atomic escarp
for pubs you mean people trough the ingame mm right?
past bough
yeah
errant vigil
lfg or that
atomic escarp
For what it's worth of the 20ish tries I did of R7E1 I got to the reactor 3 times, and this is counting the time I did finish the level
atomic escarp
I feel like the first part is too hectic to do with people that have zero idea over what to do
past bough
yeah
atomic escarp
So many times someone left the group and with every new "I never played this level" dude things basically resetted
past bough
everytime someone says "i never did e1 before" my first thought is always "oh we're fucked"
i don't leave though
that's just dumb
every e1 player has had their first time on e1 before
hard cape
IT's fun when I first met Pablo, but kiting the pablo over and over again just to get a glimpse at the reactor makes me puke
past bough
just don't tell them to do the important stuff
pliant pasture
it takes a lot of time and practice and game knowledge to be able to go into a D/E mission blind and expect anything but pain
past bough
me being biotracker i went for 4th code with help but i kept fucking up the command and we died
i didn't know what i was doing at the time
pliant pasture
except R1 ig
past bough
so uhh
yeah don't tell newbies to do the important parts
pliant pasture
depending on the newbie, shooting waves is one of those important things lol
past bough
shooting things is easy though
just have them on defend duty
-pull trigger
-train gun go boom
kind swan
Regardless of newbie status. Some people can't "aim"
Pretty much people who consider call of duty recoil to be hard to control.
pliant pasture
Regardless of newbie status. Some people can't "aim"
hello, nice to meet you
past bough
Regardless of newbie status. Some people can't "aim"
well they're just gonna have to learn
no sense playing a game with guns if you can't aim
burnt goblet
This game isnt tarkov, 95% of the guns in this game are laser pointers
if you've played any sort of fps you should have zero problems
dire pelican
What's the new color palate looks like?
pliant pasture
What's the new color palate looks like?
rigid escarp
if you've played any sort of fps you should have zero problems
Thousands of hours in multiple fps games and I still find this game hard shooting wise
I watch speedrunners who solo maps regularly miss shots
Define "zero problems"
dire pelican
https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/408584474767523860/1044242590624...
Meh I want to see in game, anyway I got it rn pure dark not my flavor
pliant pasture
fair
kind swan
This game isnt tarkov, 95% of the guns in this game are laser pointers
I did state people who find call of duty recoil to be hard.
nocturne flax
This game isnt tarkov, 95% of the guns in this game are laser pointers
Just hip fire
pliant pasture
wary olive
anyone else pumped for Alt. Rundown 6 D3 (Power Hungry) Prisoner Efficiency? 
pliant pasture
before my time, but good level?
raven flare
time doesnt exists, but good level
nocturne flax
After my time
Gotta love how the new pallet looks like the other 3 pallets i have
eightballs looks like onyx corruption, and looks like regular overalls
wary olive
they should bring back the all white michelin man palette
real moss
they should bring back the all white michelin man palette
Why are you toxic?
wary olive
☹️
pliant pasture
I Want To Be A Walking Tire AdVerTiseMent
obtuse cedar
eightballs looks like onyx corruption, and looks like regular overalls
Onyx corruption is one for one nautical dusk
They are the exact same
"new"
lapis agate
Well now I can recreate wood’s look without waiting for r2
atomic escarp
Nah its just the lighting
lapis agate
Well now I can recreate wood’s look without waiting for r2
Too bad he has the worst pants
real moss
Where r2
They are making LoL2
So for that they need TONS of salt
guess what they getting here?
coincidence? I think not !
🧐
paper harness
Where r2
atomic escarp
The dots do be connecting 🤔
paper harness
How r2
atomic escarp
No clues
atomic escarp
Pablo
tribal loom
Ye
atomic escarp
🤔
past bough
hackett has the best outfit
im not just saying that because im a simp for hackett
i just like his outfit the most
atomic escarp
i can lend you mine for 2 mins
broken scarab
Maybe the entire dev team went to make Heros of the storm 2
Love Hots
past bough
i have woods' and bishop's masks
but not hackett's
kinda a bummer because i already have the base version of woods' and bishop's masks
daring pilot
man I want a bishop mask
I got the hackett hood and lemonhead\
but I'm a bishop simp
past bough
if trading cosmetics were a thing id trade you bishop's mask for hackett's
lapis agate
hackett has the best outfit
True true
Took me lots of suffering through 1 fps r7 d1 to get the mask tho
obtuse whale
not really, look at the socks: nautical dust is more blue - muted, but blue.
kind swan
hackett has the best outfit
Give Dauda back his fingerless gloves
kind swan
if trading cosmetics were a thing id trade you bishop's mask for hackett's
Do you just want the Hood. Or the actual hood with Yellow wet cap beneath it
kind swan
Hackett's does also have some parts of his mask colored Red
obtuse cedar
not really, look at the socks: nautical dust is more blue - muted, but blue.
oh no the socks! such a great change.. totally not a 5 sec change
past bough
woods' and hackett's masks are the only masks i can tell apart from the other versions with just a glance
real moss
Give Dauda back his fingerless gloves
cosmetics drop for R8
kind swan
Dauda's has bald head one with green and red colored parts on front
obtuse whale
oh no the socks! such a great change.. totally not a 5 sec change
im sorry you picked the clothes??
i mean it also changes the bit of short sleave peaking out
you could also change the clothes themselves to get a more pronounced difference??
past bough
dauda and bishop loves showing their bald ass heads
subtle vault
I hope altR2 vanity item is drippy
lavish wyvern
i just want the rundown already
i don't have much hope of the devs changing anything on it
deft kiln
i don't have much hope of the devs changing anything on it
It is coming soon. Trust in the cope bother
proven stag
😃
obtuse cedar
im sorry you picked the clothes??
i mean it also changes the bit of short sleave...
Already checked with multiple various sets. It looks the same with all of Them. The point is it's the same colors with the same pattern as an existing one... That isnt visible unless you Pick out the 1 set where you can see a difference. It's not unique. It's a cheap 5 second change to an existing palette so they would have something "New" for black friday sale
obtuse whale
oh the salt
obtuse cedar
Notice also how they have no Lighting on their pictures
Cause people would have notice instantly
No. I know it's a cheap thing for the sale. It's just a common marketing thing to try and draw in more sales
rigid escarp
What's the palette you think it looks like?
rigid escarp
The socks look different
Are you sure you didn't just pick a set of cosmetics that showcase the differences poorly
obtuse cedar
Those pants are the one shocasong the socks the most
atomic escarp
you want a cosmetic that don't show any real difference?
rigid escarp
Looks different to me
past bough
you want a cosmetic that don't show any real difference?
yes
atomic escarp
give me a few mins
obtuse cedar
Just use any other pants where socks are not visible
rigid escarp
You can actually see the green highlight on the gloves is gone too in Pic #2
I'm not sure what the complaint is here
broken scarab
🥹
rigid escarp
The devs released an all black palette when there was already a black with green accents palette
Seems fine to me?
rigid escarp
Turn it sidewase
broken scarab
The dirt doesn't help...
rigid escarp
Accent is shown on the side for those boots
Click n drag the model so we can see the profile view
obtuse cedar
Dirt texture just make it not black
atomic escarp
idk i think you can do it yourself and show pics
lavish wyvern
It is coming soon. Trust in the cope bother
I only have cope left my man 
deft kiln
I only have cope left my man <:WoodsHug:808367391980519484>
December my brother they didn’t say the year but don’t worry
They mean this December
past bough
he's a dirty bastard
obtuse cedar
Always had this Much dirt
lavish wyvern
Let us wait then 🙏
rigid escarp
obtuse cedar
Some color just make you see it more
rigid escarp
Huh.
atomic escarp
obtuse cedar
Black being one of them
rigid escarp
Wow that is a lot of dirt
obtuse cedar
It's the same texture as nautical dusk
rigid escarp
I think I tend to avoid the dirt colors
obtuse cedar
So same dirt that you Will get on every sets you use those 2 palette
atomic escarp
oops
whatever
anyways i think you get the point, with some cosmetics there's little to no difference
rigid escarp
I still wanna see those boots from the side, their accent color isn't visible from the front
Usually at least
atomic escarp
and you can do it yourself
rigid escarp
I'm surprised you went through all this effort to post the images twice while saying that
But ok
rigid escarp
atomic escarp
no i did not upload the same image twice
rigid escarp
I figured
If anything I'm mostly surprised this cosmetic doesn't display the nautical dusk green at all
I'm still not sure I see an issue with them adding an all black palette
obtuse cedar
a lot of cosmetics do that
atomic escarp
the issue is it's low effort
rigid escarp
I don't see adding an all black palette as significantly more lazy than (4 random colors)
obtuse cedar
i never made it an issue. i stated it was a cheap marketing tactic. and pointed out how it was basically nautical dusk re-released
atomic escarp
and it should be in the random pool
instead of an actual reward you get for beating a level
rigid escarp
Palettes are a choice of like 4 colors
rigid escarp
How "high effort" do they have to be
rigid escarp
So you'd prefer we just never got palettes?
obtuse cedar
at least make it so it isn't obvious copy paste idk 🤷
atomic escarp
with camouflage
look at pre r6 bishop's pants
we will never have that
look at pre r6 woods' shoes
we will never get that drip
rigid escarp
at least make it so it isn't obvious copy paste idk 🤷
It seems to me the point is to offer an all black option that will be all black no matter your equipment, which I know friends that would like
atomic escarp
you can't even make clothes to look like the originals
because of how shit the palettes are
obtuse cedar
you can use another texture that is super bright by default though to make your black one
not use the other dark one that is already in game
atomic escarp
unironically want my old clothesback
obtuse cedar
a palette is already low effort. when you sink even lower that's just kinda cheap
rigid escarp
A palette is low effort for... what?
For just, random free content to give to people?
silent kettle
I would pick burst cannon over cosmetics
obtuse cedar
just creating a color palette from an existing one is really low effort which is common. but it become cheap when it's 99% the same thing
rigid escarp
Haven't seen those skins in forever
obtuse cedar
unironically they looked better before
subtle vault
Fr
subtle vault
Imo. Character customization should of just been the helmets the characters wear
Different hud per helmet
obtuse cedar
too much effort
subtle vault
Still would of been a neat touch
rigid escarp
I wish the all black palette wasn't marred by dirt, but I can't say I'm mad that a surprise update gave me new palette options. I wasn't expecting some massive pile of free things which it failed to deliver on, thereby disappointing me.
What were you expecting? R2?
rigid escarp
I do agree they used to look a lot more refined generally
obtuse cedar
you don't need to be expecting things to see how cheap this was made
rigid escarp
Its a common thing when you add visual customization to a game
subtle vault
I do like bishops new torso
obtuse cedar
🤷
subtle vault
And backpack
rigid escarp
you don't need to be expecting things to see how cheap this was made
So you'd rather not have it?
obtuse cedar
now don't go put words in my mouth
i already stated what i thought of the whole thing
rigid escarp
it's just ew
Usually when games add customization it comes at the cost of the customized options (or default options) looking as visually put together as an unchanging and uncustomizable wardrobe put together by the team
obtuse cedar
i don't understand how it can be hard these days to give a free color selector to the players
atomic escarp
sounds like laziness
rigid escarp
Sometimes they can preserve the old stuff as a default, sometimes they don't
obtuse cedar
tbh it should be simple.. but gotta make it less customisable
rigid escarp
i don't understand how it can be hard these days to give a free color selector t...
It wouldn't be hard, but it would mean no sense of unlocking and achieving things which other players who play less may not have
Which is clearly a goal here
Like it or not
atomic escarp
wau
obtuse cedar
uh random cosmetics isn't indicative of i achieved stuff
obtuse cedar
it's rng
rigid escarp
uh random cosmetics isn't indicative of i achieved stuff
Having a large collection to pick from is indeed indicative of having played a lot
It's the reason payday did the same thing
With mask / other unlocks
atomic escarp
because the completion number isn't enough
rigid escarp
he got mad at stat boosts
Are you seriously defending what they did?
atomic escarp
no but i wouldn't get mad at that
rigid escarp
atomic escarp
when i can easily reach 100 stab and acc with ars
well most 150 ammo ars during that time
rigid escarp
Cool?
atomic escarp
idk
maybe it's just me who finds it hard to get mad at a stat boost that gives you -4 acc
rigid escarp
Did you play when it first dropped? Many of the boosts were way more impactful than an accuracy boost
atomic escarp
or +4 stab on a gun that already has a lot of stab even if you run it as a low conceal build
yes
rigid escarp
Damage boosts let you hit breakpoints you couldn't otherwise
rigid escarp
Actual pay to win gets introduced to payday 2 and that's fine, GTFO has no paid dlc and releases content for free and that's where you draw the line
Huh
atomic escarp
192 dmg on dmr was more or less achieveable fairly easily
real moss
Actual pay to win gets introduced to payday 2 and that's fine, GTFO has no paid ...
PD2 can be won with a tooth pick
atomic escarp
what else
was it 45 dmg for 240 ammo ars
iirc there wasn't many stat boost skins with dmg modifier
ok it was 43
for an insignificant breakpoint for 240 ammo ars
107 for 90 ammo ars for an also insignificant breakpoint
rigid escarp
I'll make sure to tell Calle you and Dj want to see GTFO do the same
atomic escarp
if you're running crits, then you shouldn't care about breakpoints
now you're just instigating
oh
if you're running zerk
then you don't really need to care about breakpoints too
real moss
I'll make sure to tell Calle you and Dj want to see GTFO do the same
I don't think Calle has something to give about our opinions
rigid escarp
now you're just instigating
I'm frankly just appalled to see you continue to justify and defend what they did after how heavily you scrutinized the GTFO devs for adding a free palette
atomic escarp
also i did all the old od stuff in liek 2-3 weeks
and dsod after it was released
so yea, stat boosts do not matter but it does do a bad job of showing the potential things they can do for the future
still i believe people were overreacting
review bombing
rigid escarp
They promised they'd never add shit like that
atomic escarp
looking at it retrospectively
rigid escarp
They added it in a way that paying would make your shit better
And they reacted to the backlash with hostility
atomic escarp
dlcs do not?
rigid escarp
dlcs do not?
Nah they totally did 
obtuse cedar
They promised they'd never add shit like that
what a surprise. companies breaking promises left and right
atomic escarp
exactly
rigid escarp
But it was still bad
To see you say "it wasn't that bad" about all the stuff payday 2 did, though, seems like you hold them to a much more lenient standard
real moss
what a surprise. companies breaking promises left and right
I mean it should be so common for you that it shouldn't even make you lift up your eyes from your croissant anymore
real moss
To see you say "it wasn't that bad" about all the stuff payday 2 did, though, se...
I stopped after secret ending. The rest was bull
atomic escarp
cop dlc
jolly perch
I think something relevant to input is that the devs have mentioned they dont want paid microtransactions, then they thought about doing it, then they didnt
so uh
rigid escarp
I mean it should be so common for you that it shouldn't even make you lift up yo...
They got backlash for doing it and it impacted them financially, so lifting our eyes sorta changed things? Sorta... eh
jolly perch
it was something that they thought of, at least
atomic escarp
releasing pdth heists a few days after a modder brought them back
real moss
They got backlash for doing it and it impacted them financially, so lifting our ...
It was a joke about the french. but ok 😃
atomic escarp
one pd2 moderator took away last bullet's (modworkshop) 10k usd
and said it was "donated"
so the site never received it
my memory is hazy, but as time went on, i stopped caring
because it was no longer a game i care about
rigid escarp
I moved on
Tried going back once when some college friends insisted on playing it
But the well was sort of tainted for me
Payday 2 lost its soul slowly
I enjoyed playing it
But I'm nolonger interested in interacting with what it has become
strong basalt
ye fr fr
atomic escarp
or rather
it never had any compared to pdth
not that pdth didn't have its fair share of issues
rigid escarp
it already lost it after goldfarb and ulf left
That didn't happen until post release
And I'd been playing since release
atomic escarp
dead game really
rigid escarp
You saw the game slowly decay over time following that
atomic escarp
even have a dead game merch
forest hound
What the the message was 2 years ago
rigid escarp
Idk, for me the decline started like
Sometime after the death wish difficulty update
But the DLC shenanigans was alive and well long before that
rigid escarp
GTFO has been fun but it's a very different game
Part of me still misses that payday experience
Maybe darktide will scratch it
We'll see
atomic escarp
maybe
rigid escarp
I enjoy a sense of progression in games and GTFO by design largely avoids it
atomic escarp
my attention span just forbids me from playing pd2 for more than 1 hour
rigid escarp
Save for that weird "add progression" blip that's been on the roadmap for...
Years now
atomic escarp
haha progression
rigid escarp
atomic escarp
god i wish
pliant pasture
god i wish
fr fr? what are some progression systems you wouldn't mind?
i kinda just assumed everyone more than 100hrs in loved the fact there is no progression, just "here are the puzzle pieces, make it work"
rigid escarp
I've got nearly 200 and I'd enjoy progression but
It feels so late to add it
I feel like a lot of the people that would want progression have left because it's not here and we're so far out of early access that it feels like it's never gonna come
rigid escarp
This discord definitely selects for people that do not want progression, and I frankly get the impression that the vocal core of this game at this point is very uh
Against any sort of progression, in the same way they're against checkpoints and many other things
So we'll see what happens
pliant pasture
weapons parts to combine and make your weapon or whatever
more involved than just upgrade unlocks for specific weapons?
rigid escarp
I suspect they'll just quietly remove it from the roadmap
obtuse cedar
most people want fun levels and good gameplay
progression has A chance of becoming grinding if done bad
jolly perch
I suspect they'll just quietly remove it from the roadmap
they will 100%
candid dragon
progression sucks, treadmills suck.
jolly perch
they've talked about progression for literal years
I think the earliest mention i've seen was like 2017
rigid escarp
progression sucks, treadmills suck.
This is the opinion I largely expect to see touted by members of this games discord and reddit
candid dragon
its not even like i play games without progression.
rigid escarp
People who don't have this opinion I suspect are either neutral, or gave up the game due to it not having it
jolly perch
the last time weapon parts combining was mentioned, was back on r3 launch
jolly perch
I mentioned it to one of the devs a few months ago and they completely denied anything to do with it
candid dragon
i play plenty of games with progression, but most games eventually devolve into a stat segregated mess.
how do you make a game hard without devaluing old content while still providing progression?
obtuse cedar
remember when games were just played because they were fun? can we go back to that time? 😛
rigid escarp
At its best, progression keeps things simple early and allows the full complex puzzle later while giving a sense of accomplishment
candid dragon
give me a better dmr scope.
jolly perch
i just want attachment swapping
well hey, they might add that when r8 releases...
rigid escarp
There's a reason so many games don't introduce all the mechanics in level 1
jolly perch
...in a year or so
atomic escarp
they don't even need to overcomplicate it
look at rainbow 6 siege
sight
muzzle
grip
simple
boreal tendon
are you expecting them to keep up with balancing attachements
when smg and hel revo exist at the same time?
atomic escarp
damn, i can't believe having dmr scope on smg affect the already unbalanced guns
jolly perch
are you expecting them to keep up with balancing attachements
i dont think it matters tbh. It's not like they're going to keep up with the game after its introduced, anyways
atomic escarp
sorry guys you cannot put burst rifle sight
rigid escarp
damn, i can't believe having dmr scope on smg affect the already unbalanced guns
You say this but imo the sight is like, a super important part of gun feel
atomic escarp
on assault rifle
jolly perch
they just introduced thermal scopes as well
it would feel like a major waste to not be able to put thermals on other guns
like the hel revolver
atomic escarp
and thermal sights aren't a major advantage because it doesn't highlight shooter projectiles and makes you tunnel vision
rigid escarp
atomic escarp
then again i put pdw thermal on dmr once for funnsies
shooting shadow scouts for fun
also pr thermal has doggy doo doo effect
rigid escarp
I mentioned it to one of the devs a few months ago and they completely denied an...
I'd be surprised at this point to see any progression get implemented
Whether you want it in or not
It feels so late
rigid escarp
You joke but the iron sights on the pistol and hel revolver have serious visibility issues
atomic escarp
not really
rigid escarp
K
jolly perch
It feels so late
they wanted so bad to release gtfo at TGA that they didn't realize most of the features were missing
and now considering they've said they arent intending on adding anything new until r8
that's literally 2+ years after launch, where we would possibly wait for progression, etc
i think that GTFO had good potential but because of them taking a very long time to release new shit, all of the potential got wasted
we have not gotten a single new tool since R1, despite there being like 4-5 developed/in-development for years
we have not gotten a single new environmental condition since what, r2? despite there being 2-3 developed/in-development for, again, years
hallow lark
and thermal sights aren't a major advantage because it doesn't highlight shooter...
However, they become a massive advantage for those who are hard of hearing. Especially in dark rooms or fog rooms
rigid escarp
they wanted so bad to release gtfo at TGA that they didn't realize most of the f...
R6 being the "end of early access" definitely felt a bit abrupt to me, but at the time I was like "I mean the game is fun, I'm happy with what I paid for"
past bough
#gtfo-game-suggestions be like
atomic escarp
quite a few people here played since alpha and beta, hearing a news like this feels like a betrayal to some
ok but have you played the game soundless before, IT'S SUCH A BIG CHALLENGE
rigid escarp
I'm mostly happy with r8 being the end because for a 40 dollar game that's had this much stuff added, I feel I've gotten my value out of it
past bough
im not happy about it at all
hallow lark
ok but have you played the game soundless before, IT'S SUCH A BIG CHALLENGE
Yes. I’m deaf XD
rigid escarp
I'm not expecting a billion years of updates for free
past bough
i just started playing rundown 7
and the game is already nearing it's end cycle apparently
atomic escarp
i didn't expect a business model like that would last in the first place
and guess what
hallow lark
R6 was interesting tho. I started in R6
atomic escarp
tencent funded
jolly perch
i would be happy if they actually implemented their promises
rigid escarp
Eh
past bough
just wack
rigid escarp
Ehhhh
atomic escarp
can't even reach double digits
rigid escarp
Outside of progression, the games got just about every feature I wanted when I joined in r5
atomic escarp
ea lasted longer than full released in terms of content
rigid escarp
It feels a little unpolished
Outside of that I'm OK with it
GTFO isn't really a game as a service
atomic escarp
and that's ok
past bough
if r8 really is the end they better end it off with a bang
atomic escarp
you can still have roadmap content released and not last forever at the same time
or last forever until the day steam dies
past bough
like 10c will do that
atomic escarp
we bow to our machine overlords
i mean they can
they can push out 3 levels every 2 weeks if they want
past bough
keyword: can
atomic escarp
and want
subtle vault
I’m one of those who played the alpha and beta 😎
And yes, I do feel a little bit betrayed
rigid escarp
and that's ok
I think GTFO's biggest issue is they sort of marketed it as a game as a service with the continuous rundown replacement model, without having a financial model that could back that up - and I feel like they realized that and that's why we're getting reintroduced old rundowns
They either expected to get way more players than they did to somehow finance that anyways, or they misunderstood what they were selling people on
Probably the first
broken scarab
R6 being the "end of early access" definitely felt a bit abrupt to me, but at th...
And in the end, that is kinda the point. Some will see weapon progression as a "must-have" but to say it's incomplete is a bit polarized.
rigid escarp
I'm pretty happy with what we have
atomic escarp
i've always think a financial model like that for a coop game won't last
especially for an "indie" dev
jolly perch
And in the end, that is kinda the point. Some will see weapon progression as a "...
is weapon progression still planned for the future
or frankestenining guns
atomic escarp
you're just setting up your own grave in like
broken scarab
I think GTFO's biggest issue is they sort of marketed it as a game as a service ...
Wasn't a economical decision at all. People wanted the Rundowns back.
broken scarab
is weapon progression still planned for the future
We are not talking about specifics in the future. Is it a must-have for you?
past bough
how would weapon progression work in a game like gtfo
jolly perch
We are not talking about specifics in the future. Is it a must-have for you?
I'm just wondering because its been mentioned a few times. I'm more concerned about weapon frankensteining though since it was last mentioned back in 2020
broken scarab
They either expected to get way more players than they did to somehow finance th...
It isn't that black and white, the reality is more diversed than that.
rigid escarp
It isn't that black and white, the reality is more diversed than that.
I'm sure, but until we get a more nuanced description from you guys I'm left to speculate
atomic escarp
are a reason to play the game and replayability a must-have for you
jolly perch
oh yeah also "gear progression" was mentioned on new years eve 2020
broken scarab
I'm just wondering because its been mentioned a few times. I'm more concerned ab...
Understandable
atomic escarp
We are not talking about specifics in the future. Is it a must-have for you?
Honestly i'd do a vote for that. Some kind of progression system is a thing a lot of people want in the game.
broken scarab
I'm sure, but until we get a more nuanced description from you guys I'm left to ...
Speculate away, but it's never just two clear options. That was my point 🙂
atomic escarp
weapon and gear progression can add replayability and can be a reason for players to play
as some people like to collect things
/achievements
past bough
how would the progression work?
jolly perch
oh yeah where the fuck are achievements
atomic escarp
weapon and gear progression can add replayability and can be a reason for player...
I would actually play this game 24/7 if this existed
but i guess both are optional
jolly perch
i remember doc saying he had a list of achievements back in like r3
broken scarab
Same with Steam Achievements. For some, that is a must. Personally I couldn't care less.
past bough
i just think steam achievements would be cool
but i don't think it's required
jolly perch
how would the progression work?
from what I remember off the top of my head, the system was where you would get "xp" with a gun or a tool and be able to upgrade it
past bough
i mean they don't really do anything besides showing you played the game
rigid escarp
Honestly I mostly just want to know for sure what's in store. Will rundown 8 be the end, what's the deal with gear progression - and at this point I have to assume we haven't gotten an answer either because: the devs don't know yet (will depend on sales / what they want to work on / whatever), or the devs don't want to tell us yet (surprise, waiting to properly handle publicity)
broken scarab
i remember doc saying he had a list of achievements back in like r3
A list of funny achievements could be written in an afternoon. It's the backend and programming...
past bough
from what I remember off the top of my head, the system was where you would get ...
tbh i would not like that
rigid escarp
I'm down for whatever though.
atomic escarp
Steam achievements are whatever, literally no one could care enough about them
jolly perch
tools for example would have several upgrades. Biotrackers upgrades were something along the lines of
- ping enemies longer
- longer pinging distance
- enemy health with ping
atomic escarp
when the level gen system is so fucked beyond repairable
past bough
id prefer progression in a game like gtfo to just be cosmetics
atomic escarp
too hard to add progression
broken scarab
Honestly I mostly just want to know for sure what's in store. Will rundown 8 be ...
There is a time for everything.
past bough
just because every player would be equal in terms of gameplay
broken scarab
Steam achievements are whatever, literally no one could care enough about them
Many people do 🙂
jolly perch
A list of funny achievements could be written in an afternoon. It's the backend ...
but surely backend and programming wouldn't take 2-3 years to do?
broken scarab
Cryptic as always 😛
I wish I had an answer for you
rigid escarp
There's valid reasons to delay this info
atomic escarp
i honestly had enough with 10cc's cryptic bullshit sometimes
but it's whatever at this point
rigid escarp
I've worked with enough game industry stuff to see what happens when you announce something too early and have to backpedal or want to change it
atomic escarp
We don't even know who the warden is yet
what the fuck is happening in rundown 8 man
will there be more? o-o
i just hope r8 is good
broken scarab
but surely backend and programming wouldn't take 2-3 years to do?
From the start, GTFO had 1,5 programmers. And it all depends on prioritization
rigid escarp
The moment the community sees something it's set in stone
jolly perch
calle it would be super funny if i did an interview with you on youtube on the progress of some of the GTFO's updates - as someone who has been making a gtfo "Cut content" iceberg for almost 2 years at this point, i'm interested to hear what happened to some of the planned features and whatnot
broken scarab
I've worked with enough game industry stuff to see what happens when you announc...
Oooo yes 🙂
atomic escarp
Many people do 🙂
Well you don't get much to do with them other than showcasing them in your profile, i rather see in-game features
parasite 🤯
jolly perch
where's my amenonme
atomic escarp
tank grabbing you 😲
broken scarab
calle it would be super funny if i did an interview with you on youtube on the p...
That would be fun but it's to early at this point
jolly perch
amemone
atomic escarp
med station 😲
jolly perch
what about for things that likely wont come in r8? like the medic tool?
atomic escarp
armoury but technically we have it
jolly perch
or the flamethrower
jolly perch
wheres my amenonme, 10cc?
rigid escarp
or the flamethrower
This is a meme right
past bough
medic tool?
atomic escarp
mapper tool
jolly perch
This is a meme right
no
atomic escarp
medic tool?
I assume TF2 medic style
jolly perch
there was a flamethrower at one point
rigid escarp
Yeah but like
broken scarab
We could skip the namedropping of datamined stuff, please
atomic escarp
ok but mine
rigid escarp
For all we know it's cut
atomic escarp
and they buffed it in r5
the mapper cult out here existing is a mere disease aint it
jolly perch
medic tool?
it was a tool that would heal teammates (and no, this is not datamined)
atomic escarp
when it was always an ok tool
rigid escarp
For all we know
jolly perch
i'd be willing to go more in-depth with what has been datamined about it in dm's, though, as i cannot here
rigid escarp
Those were experimented with and will never exist
broken scarab
i'd be willing to go more in-depth with what has been datamined about it in dm's...
Thanks
rigid escarp
Or maybe in r8/r...whatever
We don't even know if r8 will be the end
Smoke and mirrors
I get why they don't tell us though
atomic escarp
r8 is going to be so insane
jolly perch
i'd love to see hear why they cut the original snatcher
broken scarab
I get why they don't tell us though
Because above reasons: the minute we talk about stuff they become promises
yup
jolly perch
We don't even know who the warden is yet
what the fuck is happening in rundown 8...
warden: AI. Devs said in the past it was a group of people, maybe its a group of people + an AI
rundown 8: schaeffer is doing wacky shit
boom
atomic escarp
warden: AI. Devs said in the past it was a group of people, maybe its a group of...
the warden could still literally be anything
jolly perch
well we know it is at least an AI
obtuse cedar
R7E1 almost at 6% completion... That's almost triple the amount of r4e1 and kinda a huge leap from r5e1 still
Oof
atomic escarp
R7E1 almost at 6% completion... That's almost triple the amount of r4e1 and kind...
where do you see this