gtfo-spoiler-chat

[wind pilot]

Games can benefit from having modders have small fixes for small qol bugs

Which is what we are seeing too

[robust marsh]

11 bug fixes for 8 months so guess we have to wait for R8 to see if you were right dragon

[wind pilot]

Lets devs focus on more important bugs

[nocturne flax]

yes but claiming that their doing more than a developer its where the moral line gets cross

[robust marsh]

for now you are right and im wrong and i accept that

[wind pilot]

Yeah i never really understand that stance unless its halo infinite context

[mortal granite]

i'm neutral

i shittalk both modder and dev

[robust marsh]

some of them help alot

[mortal granite]

perfectly balance

[wind pilot]

That’s good captain

Always nice to have a middle guy

[robust marsh]

NOTE THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO BE AGGRESIVE

[nocturne flax]

Im neutral too, but the overall actitud in ums hurts them quite a bit

thats why everybody with a brain distance themselves from them

lots of shit takes there

kinda like rey

and ive been having a close ear and eyes on them for many years now

[wind pilot]

Btw can we still get the Lugubrious pallet if we complete all r7 mains or is that just r6+extended?

[mortal granite]

what is lugubrious pallet

[robust marsh]

the pink one

the pink funny pallet

[mortal granite]

i only play game and shoot teammate

[wind pilot]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Apparel?file=Lugubrious.png

[nocturne flax]

i know

[mortal granite]

speaking of which

i forgot

🤡

maybe i should up a notch

putting clownface everytime i write a sentence

🤡

maybe this as well

🤓

[nocturne flax]

you got 2 months to go

[mortal granite]

i did it with simon face to troll people

maybe pepestare as well

🤡

is this annoying, guys?

[half hornet]

yes

[wary olive]

is combat shotgun op

[half hornet]

Doesn't feel that way

[atomic escarp]

there are better options so i wouldnt choose it

[half hornet]

2 shotgs to reliably kill a biter

[wary olive]

feels busted, you can easily 1 shot a striker

[half hornet]

so far couldn't do it once

[turbid cliff]

Shotguns work differently for hosts and clients

[mortal granite]

good

[wary olive]

@half hornet i am not even a good combat shotgun player

[nocturne flax]

it came back to r3 version pretty much

consistent oneshots

[wary olive]

was it considered op back in r3?

[nocturne flax]

kind of ish

[wary olive]

i only knew r5 combat shotgun but i never used it then

[nocturne flax]

guns are pretty much powercreeped to the bone now

so its alright

[wary olive]

pellets wont break heads prematurely as client right?

[atomic escarp]

Unrelated question, didn't that also work for Burst Rifle? Where as client you could one-shot (well, burst) a Striker by aiming for the head ?

[atomic escarp]

if you don't mind, can you please explain this?

or link me to an explanation

[turbid cliff]

Yes
@atomic escarp what he said

[turbid cliff]

Also yes

[atomic escarp]

Thanks

what is the effect of heads not breaking prematurely?

[dreamy bramble]

pellets can connect to the head after it's broken for a brief period

like say it takes 2 pellets to break a head, host can only get 2 headshot pellets and the rest will pass through, whereas client can hit all pellets on the head

^random numbers

[atomic escarp]

so it's better on client then

[dreamy bramble]

ye

same reason why scattergun was busted on client vs bosses

[atomic escarp]

thanks

also

[turbid cliff]

Well it's slightly different for sacks

[atomic escarp]

I looked at server message history while waiting for an answer and I'm seeing host good client bad, has something changed?

[turbid cliff]

What context

[dreamy bramble]

same principle right?

exceeding limb damage by having pellets continue to overdamage

[atomic escarp]

https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/416907525460590593/990663525926064168 like this

https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/714910123277025421/990520610864111636 or this

[dreamy bramble]

that's in reference to sniper melee

since clients have a worse close range experience with enemies triggering attacks from a further distance

and stagger being less consistent

[atomic escarp]

ahh ok I see, thanks the explanation

so in the end does it really matter if client or host shotgun?

[turbid cliff]

Sacks can't take more damage than the hp they have unlike normal limbs
Sack on client wouldn't work if hp was tracked regardless of limb destruction, it'd actually be worse for client

[dreamy bramble]

so a slightly different reason for the same result?

[turbid cliff]

There's 2 bugs instead of 1 that give this result

In the case of sacks

[dreamy bramble]

fair enough lol

[dreamy bramble]

not really

[turbid cliff]

It can matter a lot tbh especially with cs

[dreamy bramble]

both sides have advantages

[turbid cliff]

Client oneshot would be way more reliable

[dreamy bramble]

it's more reliable but for the sake of clearing levels in a 4man i don't think the difference actually matters too much

to the point where you should build your loadout around it

[turbid cliff]

Well not much point in discussing preference

But in terms of one weapon's balance it's bs

[dreamy bramble]

fair

[atomic escarp]

@robust anchor here

[robust anchor]

ok makes sense. thank you

[atomic escarp]

np

[kind latch]

did they fix d1 overload for r7 yet?

[kind swan]

Fix?

You mean make a Feature easier?

[kind latch]

i heard somewhere in the discord theres a bug where it spawns in more snatchers than usual

was wondering if it still exists

[hard cape]

5 snatchers in D1. I personally encountered max 3 snatchers at a time. After we hit the checkpoint snatcher disappears

[daring ravine]

Does anyone know when r2 is being released?

[hard cape]

2077

[daring ravine]

Good talk

[brisk wraith]

Real

[narrow gulch]

I mean that's pretty much what I was doing, not worth the risk of the bots fucking up the stealth kill and ALL getting bitch slapped by the mf

[cosmic wave]

[vestal zephyr]

Any pro tips for doing a solo clear w/ bots on R1C1? Tool recommendations?

[kind swan]

Depends if you want 4 sentries or 3 sentries and a Bio

[vestal zephyr]

So basically sentries out the ass

Is there a real benefit to taking a fourth sentry?

[kind swan]

It's more so if you want an additional sentry or a extra burst

Or sniper

[vestal zephyr]

hmm hmm

[kind swan]

Bio of course for the symbiosis

[vestal zephyr]

What kinds of sentries are recommended? I was running two bursts and a sniper last time I tried

[kind swan]

Symbiosis allowing sniper/shotgun sentries to lock on faster/consume ammo at a slower rate

Knowing chad players. They'd recommend sniper

Since every shot is a kill on smalls with the right placement

Burst for some kills/staggers

Sniper would also be better at weakening giants

[vestal zephyr]

And the hybrids when they show up.

Since those start showing up around wave 5 or so

[verbal ether]

3 snipers sentries + bio on bot, gather every tool pack in the level near reactor, don't use sentries for the first 1/2 waves and if you can, pick a res booster, that's how I did it with 3 bots and it was pretty easy

[vestal zephyr]

should I cram the bots full of as many ammo bags as possible and just handle tool distribution myself? Since bots can't use toolbags on placed turrets iirc

med bag too I guess since I suck at kiting full hordes

[verbal ether]

if you don't have res boosters you can let bot do their things, just pick sentries up between each wave so they use their packs

ideally I guess it's better if bots pick ammo pack but honestly they just seem to kinda pick what they want so I don't bother too much

[narrow gulch]

especially make sure you move all the bigger resources closer to your choke, since you arent really gonna have any time to push forward and grab things between waves until the super late waves because you are forced to put in the code yourself

[vestal zephyr]

Without good prep I made it to wave 6, so with good prep I imgaine it shouldn't be too bad

[verbal ether]

yeah, with 3 sniper sentries you barely need to shoot even during the last wave it's quite stupid, so as long as you manage to preserve some tool ammo you should have no problem

[orchid oasis]

Aight does anyone know where the fuck HSU_446 is in R1A1

been walking around for like 40 minutes and I can't ping -t with bots

somewhere in zone 52 e

[atomic escarp]

you prolly missed it just re check

[fallow wasp]

ayo what's different about this limited time mask?

I'll end up getting it regardless but huh

[shy thicket]

how do the get the mask?

how do you get the mask*

[kind swan]

Play any expedition

And it's basically a Red color version of R7 E1 Mask

Completing all mains of R7

And I imagine it's for Halloween

Ngl. It's another helmet that looks better in concept art vs ingame

[cinder cypress]

I feel so scammed when i got that red one. All that work that went to the og one

[kind swan]

Imean the og one isn't perma red

[cinder cypress]

yea exactly, its worse

[kind swan]

Eh.

Preference

[cinder cypress]

[kind swan]

It isn't limited time helmet either

So it can always be unlocked given they can complete all mains of R7

This possibly means Hot Pink and black Color palette and Twin Helm of R6/R6Ext can be obtainable again when it comes back around

But I suppose that proves ur point. OG helm is worse

In rarity that is. For those who didnt play during 2022 October

[cinder cypress]

well, going for all the drip anyways with them adding all the old rundowns

[kind swan]

Means those helmets in the files all this time

Are possibly helmets we unlock with the coming rundowns

Along the other cosmetics ofc

[mellow creek]

i mean at the rate they are going

might as well get modders into the team lol

breathe some sign of life into this game

instead of letting people go on hiatus for 6months each time hahah

[high vortex]

Anybody know if more waves spawn after the timer on R7C3 if you kill the tank and don't touch extraction?

[last gust]

Pretty sure they do

including periodic tanks and snatchers

[high vortex]

Awesome thanks. I've heard that from some, but I saw a comment on the subreddit claiming otherwise and was curious.

[vestal zephyr]

finished out the mission with exactly zero ammo in everything, but got the clear

what a massive headache of a mission though

looking forwards to doing it with my friends

[dusty granite]

Any tips for R1C1? I have not been able to get past wave 7

[mellow creek]

whats r1c1 lol

oh reactor

idk we just shoot

didnt even do anything else

[vestal zephyr]

Read the tips and tricks I got earlier, worked out for me

But really it is fundamentally just a 'shoot the monster' mission

If you cleared R7C3, it won't be any harder than that

[jolly perch]

idk what the new strat is, if any, but i remember for r1c1 original, holding on the bridge or another chokepoint is good

and it would be like 3 sentry 1 bio, with 2 sentries being put down at a time

im pretty sure hybrids? now spawn so maybe bringing like a sniper would be good as well so the turrets dont waste ammo

[vestal zephyr]

it only spawned a single hybrid for me per wave

on waves that spawned hybrids

[valid kestrel]

It's pretty easy with three turrets still

Honestly the levels are too easy I wish they changed em up more

[wary olive]

d1 is a b tier level

[candid olive]

so i finished r1 in one evening

time to go into my 3 month slumber until new update drops lol

r1 as in all levels have a1 difficulty

🤔

[tough totem]

maybe all the tiers are just easy

[candid olive]

i just found levels lacking enemies and actual challenge

like the level with chargers had all these huge open rooms with like 6 chargers in them?

#gtfo-game-suggestions message

kek

[tough totem]

I agree, feels pretty lackluster compared to other missions and rundowns. the counter argument is that they're strictly main obj, and are ports of the real R1

even if they got a lot of stuff wrong

currently I feel like the levels feature separate easy and hard segments, while earlier rundowns seemed to be level throughout

[mellow creek]

yeah

entire r1 is just B tier lvls

r2 will be the beast

for d tiers

and e tier

infinite mobs fast mobs that increases spawns per wave

[whole locust]

I never beat R2E1.

I wasn't sure if it was just 100% shadow giant chargers during the slow half but I never got through. Either slow, steady losing or excruciatingly slow cheese where everyone shoved themselves behind a sign and hammered walls for two hours.

I wasn't good enough for the former or patient enough for the latter.

[hoary musk]

Hold hole in the wall. Make resource runs in downtime. The reactor operator can give you more time by waiting before putting in the command. 2 sentries at a time. Close range weaponry. SMG, Pistol, Shotgun, Machine gun.

[kind swan]

Pretty good but probably better specification on close range weaponry

[fallow wasp]

Had some kind of fever dream last night where they announced another limited time cosmetic but it’s just an orange speedo that goes over a pair of pants for the Halloween event

[atomic escarp]

Ok thats the dream but where's the fever

🤒

[candid olive]

so alt r2 when

[turbid egret]

fever in the pants. always in the pants

[tough totem]

relatable

I know that feeling

[kind swan]

[fallow wasp]

I hope the alt rundowns bring the authentic experience of hearing the bulkhead door repeating “Warning, threat level: extreme” from halfway across the level

[kind swan]

hopefully

:/ I'm already sad the experience now includes weapons and tools that didn't exist in the original

and as far as I can tell aside from the changed layouts. only one section is different

R1C1 having hybrids

if there's other changes I probably don't remember. my memory is pretty foggy on the finer details

[uneven plank]

4 months minimum

[lavish wyvern]

wait really?

if so i may squee and scrim

[wind pilot]

Wouldn’t hell revolver be better? Theres a spot where they will come at you at a straight line its at the left side of the barrel right behind the truck

Also bring sniper for hybrids

[last gust]

Wouldn’t hell revolver be better?
Yes.

(I only really skimmed over the context discussion. The answer is still yes.)

[prisma zodiac]

I mean id argue dmr is also a lot better than close range weapons since you usually have super long sight lines (and sleepers only start dodging when semi close)

[real moss]

Yes plz 😃

[hoary musk]

I consider HEL weapons sort of "win more" weapons. If you're getting swarmed and failing C1, you don't want to worry about lining up enemies, you're propably better off keeping it simple.
HEL is great for ammo effiency if you can keep the enemies at bay smoothly, falls apart once your defence does.
I havn't done the math though.

[boreal tendon]

except the comfort of being able to spam LMB into a single pixel all the time and hitting means you're not getting swarmed unless you actively try to

[hidden crater]

i just use SMG because monkey brain.

[last gust]

for whatever reason the balance of the hel specials has been such that even without overpen they'd be solid specials

if you could hold down a dicey situation with revolver or choke shotty in r6, chances are you could also hold it down fine with hel gun, overpen lineups or no

to some extent this is also true of hel revo

basically a dmr with a smaller clip that for some reason gets more rounds per refill than dmr

and dmr is already great

[kind swan]

DMR refills are pitiful

[last gust]

if they intend on pushing all of the mains the way that they just pushed the carbine, then yeah, maybe actually giving dmr more rounds per refill is the way to go

[worthy yacht]

Did the very first mission in R1 have Class 4 alarm? I honestly don't remember it being a thing

[real moss]

It did

on the same door it is now

[worthy yacht]

I was like "Hold the phone, isn't that a bit too much?" I guess my memory fails me

[real moss]

It do be like that

[obtuse cedar]

Just shows how much waterdown the A tier became

R1A1 introduced you to everything you needed to know

Now you need to do r7B1 to get half of the information cause r7a1 is just bad

[daring pilot]

honestly if A-tier intro'd optionals with scouts in them? I'd love that

[obtuse cedar]

R4 and r5 had optionals in a1

[daring pilot]

yeah, I get that it can be weird, but now that we have R1 as a baseline we could put some spice in later rundowns\

[obtuse cedar]

I have a doubt that it will be done

They would need to think it through to not lose the feel of the original and it would delay even more

[last gust]

an a1 overload that absolutely stomps new crews could be fun

I know r5a2 had mommy in overload, but that was a2

[obtuse cedar]

If their plan is to not take a full rundown release to do old rundowns then i doubt they will add optionals

[real moss]

R5A1 basically (only it had scouts in main as well and was a BAD level)

[green narwhal]

R5a1 is a good level

[hexed vapor]

It's a bad A1, but not the worst level.

Tbh, I'm of the opinion that A1 wouldn't hurt to have 1 scout, but the enemy density is wild.

Big is fine, very good even, but enemies should probably be a bit spread out so that you can get comfortable with them.

[green narwhal]

I disagree the enemy density and distribution is just a function of how R5 distributed its enemies. I think that r5a1 is solid it’s definitely up there in terms of difficulty for an a1 but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I’m not a fan of like r6 and r7 a1 being like the easiest. There’s the eval to teach you what the mechanics are and a1 is supposed to be the first test of that knowledge

[atomic escarp]

I remember R5A1 on release had cocoons in way more rooms

[fallow wasp]

The secondary had like 4 scouts

And an equal amount of bio scans

[tough badger]

Post-nerf r5a1 was okay
Pre-nerf was so pointlessly tedious lmao

[atomic escarp]

To be honest I think much of the tediousness is because every zone was so big

I assume it's partially due to being waterways

[tough badger]

Nah having so much respawn was just not fun

[half hornet]

Stealth is like grind in this game, its only good in short bursts

[nocturne flax]

extreme was a chore to do

shoulda been just 2 zones to grab the items

not rng that will split into 3 zones

[atomic escarp]

oh right there was a chance of you having to open all zones right?

[real moss]

depending on RNG it could be

altho when rng was bad the 3 zones sucked

[nocturne flax]

its was caca and time consuming for a A level

[real moss]

yes it was the time part that was most annoying

and the rooms were sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo big

[nocturne flax]

floodways in a nutshell

just too big for its own good

[real moss]

fair but just have it in a later level

I understand why they did it cause new environment from R5 etc etc

[hard cape]

Rundown 8 will come after they bring back the old rundowns?

[hidden crater]

When every rundown from 1-7 is back, 8 will return (iirc)

[robust marsh]

yes

as the last rundown

[lavish wyvern]

if 8 is the last rundown

i'm gonna be very sad

i hope as a final goodbye to gtfo the devs make a steam workshop for mods and custom rundowns

but i have hope that we'll be getting to 12 rundowns

[robust marsh]

there already making new game

so No.

[tough badger]

They specifically bragged about being able to work on both games at once

I just hope we get a response to all this hubbub so we don't have to keep speculating about it

I'm tired of all this discussion started by them not putting 2+ unknown rundowns on a graphic used to tease the alt releases
We know the story is approaching its conclusion so 8 could definitely be the last one, but I really don't want to spend energy on it until we're actually told

Of course if there was an actual announcement or something else I missed I'll take that too

[mellow creek]

i remember r2e1 was the first

s1 scan

would be funny to see how it works with the current sleepers

and the end where we have to carry 3 stuffs lol

the real e1 difficulty

[tough badger]

I thought r2e1 was the first surge and S1 wasn't introduced until r4?

[nocturne flax]

r2e1 was intro to surge alarms, s1 where introduce in r4b3 overload

[nocturne flax]

they want us to keep speculating

so then we get the "surprise"

:]

[tough badger]

I will turn to ash

[nocturne flax]

probably one of the things that bother me the most its that they want to "surprise" us even with old content

like my man this is the time to be more active and showing what your doing

but it dont matter anyways

we'll see over the long run

hopefully evething turns out to be good

[tough badger]

Yeah that's kinda whatever, getting pelted with old rundowns like surprise gift baskets is fine

[nocturne flax]

heist game

hes back on that shit

hopefully they will shut the hell up instead of showing off all your game content while you were developing

then it will be the surprise!

[mellow creek]

yea surge alarm

had the habit of calling it s1 alarm

[west crow]

Developers that haven't shown any change in the way they develop promise to change the way they develop things 😍

Can't wait for the introduction of the heist career. When a new one drops, the old one is wiped from the game.

[heavy wave]

surge alarm of r2e1 with stamina on the first scan sounds painful af

[errant vigil]

eh with current guns and tools it'll be pretty easy

[nocturne flax]

i dunno why everybody its so scare of stamina

its like you guys dont set up or anything for alarms

lmao

[errant vigil]

man can hammer a few times during an alarm and still be stamina free

[nocturne flax]

like what you dont throw a little cfoam on the ground and place a sentry?

[errant vigil]

Unless you jump like a monkey

[nocturne flax]

just dont jump

hammer for free

!

you get like 9 kills or something

before stamina hits

[errant vigil]

I'll just break the stamina system so I don't have to worry about being aware

[nocturne flax]

I honestly dont know how people dont realise our current weaponry destroys older rundowns

like shits gonna be so easy

[errant vigil]

Especially a rundown with no Chargers in it

[nocturne flax]

some small amount of cfoam on the ground a huge a amount of enemies unlike before

[nocturne flax]

yeah

like we have 2 machineguns and combat shotgun

r2 alt its gonna be straight up free

kiting bitches

[obtuse surge]

nah things in R2E1 will have changed and NOT for the better

[west crow]

We have 3 machine guns

Machine-gun rapid fire bad machine-gun low rpm and good machine-gun low rpm

[nocturne flax]

just because its disable doesnt mean its there

[west crow]

Heavy ar is just the better low rpm machine-gun

Can't wait to play r2e1 with my favorite team loadout of hel revo burst cannon hel revo burst cannon hel revo burst cannon AR machine-gun (I'm playing with lulfireblade)

[hexed vapor]

HAR is dog, tho.

I'd take the Arbalist any day.

[eternal dragon]

Im so hyped to play with you already

[vestal zephyr]

The Arbalist gives me a heart-on. Love that fuckin thing

[stable pivot]

Arbalist is my new special weapon of choice as well.

[vestal zephyr]

I usually wind up using the chokemod. I'm bad with the MGs lmao

Target tracking issues, primarily

[tough badger]

I want to run the 5-shot wonder loadout on the old E levels

[lucid kestrel]

It may be that way, but sometimes, im happy with stagger weapons to slow and stall to help buy killing weapons time to reload. Please bring back autopistol or stagger guns and auto sentry

[errant vigil]

Just take a pistol

[kind swan]

[kind swan]

Can't tell if that's a joke. But chargers do exist in R1

[errant vigil]

We were talking about R2

[kind swan]

However yes not in every other level maybe like the other rundowns

R2

Ah

Then ye

(Also I fully agree with black dragon that the current weapons blow away the old weapons for these rundowns

[errant vigil]

There's always been a busted weapon in each rundown tho

[kind swan]

R1 compared to Alt R1 weapon wise.

[errant vigil]

A lot probably do better in R1-R3 than the alts because of head bug

[kind swan]

R1 C1 is also a joke with sniper sentries

[west crow]

They should bring back the invisible head hitbox on decapped strikers

And shotgun damage related to players in lobby

[kind swan]

Shotgun sentry needs a rework imo.

[kind swan]

A surprising amount of players never heard of this bug either.

Only that Shotgun sentry was strong back then

So far I dont see any real changes to the levels aside from hybrids being in R1C1

I did hear about a Cfoam bug in R1 about doors

But my group never used foam

[pseudo lily]

are there supposed to be shadows in r7c2 now?

[errant vigil]

No, but it'll stay

[pseudo lily]

😔

[west crow]

it's legitimately just a tuned-down r1 machinegun

that's how it was designed

the current r1 machinegun is just a worse r2 machinegun

[hexed vapor]

A 3-shot kill and higher accuracy is p solid compared to Veruta.

[hexed vapor]

Especially when it's at the ammo level of Veruta rn as opposed to R1 or R2 MG.

[obtuse surge]

the shotgun sentry was epic because of 3 things that don't exist anymore

x4 damage when 4 players

x2 damage on back

head hitbox stays so it aiming for head doesn't matter

and its gotten really weak buffs to make up for the many things its lost

[wary olive]

x4 damage when 4 players?

[obtuse surge]

yes

that shit was running at x8 damage all headshots

ofc it cracked

and it dont get body block

so it kills 4 in one shot if uplace it right

[hexed vapor]

The only thing holding it back was low accuracy

And that didn't stop it from occasionally just one-shotting giant enemies.

[hexed vapor]

That's a good thing, even, because of this.

1 pellet = 1 dead striker

[nocturne flax]

Please

Just make it aim center mass

Thats all it needs

Not ammo

Not fire rate

Just that and a little bit of damage

Would be such a good sentry for datacenter

[kind swan]

[wind pilot]

Good sentry vs tank when

Imagine if sg sentry can stagger tanks every 2nd shot

If u place it behind the tank

That’s be cool

[obtuse cedar]

It already exist. It's called sniper sentry

[wind pilot]

Shh

[kind swan]

[ashen summit]

can you 1 tap charger scouts in the back with a High Cal pistol?

also highcal pistol is as efficient as sniper vs tanks?

[errant vigil]

No and no

[hearty escarp]

How many mines does it take to kill a tank these days? I remember it used to be 7 in rundown 4 but I recall some stat changes to mines along the line.

[real moss]

still to much hassle. Just pew pew him to deth

[pine creek]

new to the game and had my first run-in with a Scout last night when i played with the friend who got me the game

fuck that

shit is so creepy

[royal lichen]

after about 6000 scouts they're not exciting or scary anymore, just chores 🙂

[real moss]

But wait: there's more 😏

[pine creek]

[royal lichen]

sometimes a scout actually spices up positively a monotonous stealth-grind

[hallow lark]

Be careful tho… you saw one of my DX where a scout absolutely fucked me over…

Yes, it was a solo run but that scout… that fucking scout… matrix dodged my spear… and went up a ladder and screwed me… all within a span of 1 second

[last gust]

it could prior to the patch, it no longer can

[last gust]

sniper 1shots tank tumors, popping 7 kills the tank

high cal requires far more ammo to kill a tank than sniper, and even more ammo than the choke shotty

(on a tank damage per refill basis)

[half hornet]

Tfw you wipe R1C1 on last wave

Somehow ran out of ammo

Got bum rushed by like 3 hybrids

[royal lichen]

imho r1c1 last 2 waves are the biggest challenge of the rundown

[half hornet]

I really dislike hybrids. They feel a bit too tanky for a ranged unit.

Shooting them just doesn't feel good too.

Oh well. Mandatory sniper rifle or something.

[royal lichen]

i dislike hybes staggering to their backs, "fake death"

then they get up and -40hp "u still around, sweet"

[half hornet]

That too. Always requires a double take.

[kind swan]

Typically a double swipe.
And melee hits only deal 14%

[royal lichen]

a long salvo is pain

bad luck, failure to duck etc

[half hornet]

They are actually fun to range duel with.

They are like a heavy machine gunner of the sleepers.

Take a shot at it, hide in cover, wait for barrage, rinse repeat.

But they are never fucking alone and cover randomly doesn't work sometimes.

Should've been a mini boss.

[hidden crater]

i occasionally bring a choke mod specifically to dump mags into them in levels like C1

[kind swan]

me who sprints towards them and bonk head

[royal lichen]

wiggling of mouse as they salvo is fun

[half hornet]

That's how we died.

Ran out of ammo, tried to bash one with a bat.

Got my ass licked by one of the smaller lads.

But other than that I love R1C1.
Probably the most simple, yet fun level so far. Just hold the line on a long ass bridge.

Half of the gameplay was me watching my sniper sentry sniping sleepers from an elevated position I put it on.

[royal lichen]

ppl should remember that reactorwaves are not like alarmwaves, setting their spawnpoints back by going south and then taking more time to kill the first wave isn't gonna make less spawn

[half hornet]

meet the engineer intensifies

[royal lichen]

yeah that bridge is a damn good sentry perch

[half hornet]

I should make a little joke video of that... Next time.

[royal lichen]

but running south to scrape for the last resources is kinda necessary, at least was for us

[half hornet]

That's the thing.

I went as far as I could.

Nothing but fucking Medkits was left.

We got everything it seems.

And still fucking ran out.

I have no idea.

[royal lichen]

the sniper mightve shot the car-truck-thing on the bridge, we had a few shots with no kills

ah well, r1c1 fun 8 code reactor. can't wait for r2d2. " 😄 "

[half hornet]

Not my baby, I put her in the left more open side on the little watching tower and personally confirmed every kill that she made.

[plush basin]

R2D2 one of the best levels ever

[royal lichen]

damn, hope u get the win with the crew, maybe pickup sentries when <10 left, hammertime for 3, code entry for 1 .. or something

[half hornet]

I already have the clear, I was just having fun with a random squad and I'm just curious how tf we lost that.

[light lagoon]

Unrelated but I love how I have the complete opposite feeling, I'm still kinda shocked that my team first cleared it considering:
-one of them was running a Shotgun Sentry (he used it the whole fucking rundown and refused to swap, even though it did jack all)
-same guy positioned himself on the skip on the bridge, causing our bot to freak out trying to resupply him constantly so he would just run out into the waves holding an ammopack and wouldn't be pinging anything
-my other mate put his Burst Sentry waaay back towards the security door where it was functionally useless for most of the reactor, so considering the Shotgun as well this meant basically up until 6/8 We were running off of only my Burst Sentry

Probably the only reason it worked in the end is around 6/8 I was finally able to persuade them to get off the bloody skip and to move the sentry forward.

It's.. an exercise in frustration sometimes with my mates.

[real moss]

Hmmm so reactors are your thing? You'll have some nice ones later on then 😃

[tough badger]

R2D2 is my most-anticipated level I've never done

I just want a level where I walk in, type into a terminal, and spend the next 30-40 minutes in hell

[real moss]

It still is one of the better reactors

[tough badger]

"reactor but big" is just a perfect concept

[stable pivot]

My first contact with reactors was in R5B1 Overload. A great level but the Extreme objective was too long.

[hexed vapor]

R5B1Sec was based, tho.

Fog adventure.

leave the team behind

[half hornet]

[nocturne flax]

I will confidently say your wrong

R5b1 was hella cringe

[olive shoal]

ur cringe

[mellow creek]

has there been any surge alarm in recent rd

[atomic escarp]

r7 no

r6 had 3

[mellow creek]

ah

been so long

im getting demential

[atomic escarp]

😬

[mellow creek]

just waiting for r2 d2/e1 r3 d1

cant remember which one was the constant daddy alarm

r4 ?

[atomic escarp]

r4e1

[mellow creek]

ah

nvm only r2 makes a difference w the stamania and faster sleepers

r3 r4 r5 is kinda trashy

[atomic escarp]

didnt play them so no opinion

[errant vigil]

R2 the rundown with no cool enemies

Actually I’ll give it hybrids that’s about it

[real moss]

R5B1ovl reactor was nice yes.

And then they reused that bridge for R6D3

[hexed vapor]

"Reused the R5B1 bridge" from R2D2 Trollge

[half hornet]

It's almost like they reuse room tiles 🤔

[nocturne flax]

this an old classic right here

[olive shoal]

😔

[hard cape]

How to repeat command on a terminal?

[astral ferry]

ping ... -T

[obtuse surge]

the R1 update nerfed R7E1

the doors for reactor unlock at start of wave

instead of after wave

[royal lichen]

... arrow up? 🙂 ⬆️

[plush basin]

enter cls then repeat ⏫ enter for turbo mode

[keen rampart]

The boring reactor is now even more boring?

[hexed vapor]

They couldn't let there be a hard part of E1

Now they just need to make all of the zones on the way back non-respawning and we can finally play D3.

[atomic escarp]

good thing or a bad thing

[past bough]

bad
i thought r7e1 was just fine

shouldve nerfed d1 overload

[bold widget]

why

[obtuse surge]

probably unintentional change

[bold widget]

devs wtf

[obtuse surge]

like the shadows for C2 main

and the baby in B2 but they fixed that one

the C2 and E1 change don't fully block progression so maybe they wont fix

[bold widget]

i couldnt believe that one myself i had to drop in there unless i heard the shadow scream spawn

if anything it makes getting the first and second code easier

[obtuse surge]

yeh

i dont know if ud want to go early for final code

[kind swan]

They did that before the R1 update lol.

[obtuse surge]

what

when

why

[tough badger]

yeah hold on, when?

[past bough]

never
they're gaslighting you

[tough badger]

I can do that myself tyvm

[atomic escarp]

they also added 1 more mom apparently

small mom

[past bough]

gaslighting

[hexed vapor]

W8, where?

And what are new totals?

[atomic escarp]

same zone sleeping moms

2 small 1 big

[hexed vapor]

3 small total, then?

[atomic escarp]

2 total

[hexed vapor]

Okay, then that's just someone not knowing the level.

Always been that way.

1 mom first stealth zone, 2 moms second stealth zone.

[atomic escarp]

thats prolly it

only tried e1 7 times

soo good at dying at the end

[half hornet]

get elitised

[atomic escarp]

🥲

[tough badger]

I cleared E1 blindfolded and with both hands in a toaster

[past bough]

nice

[atomic escarp]

show me how

[tough badger]

I can't I couldn't see it

[atomic escarp]

oh

[past bough]

source: on god

[mellow creek]

wait what its non respawning now ?

damn what are the devs thinking again lol

[hexed vapor]

"Now they just need to"

As in, not in-game.

[mellow creek]

oh

regardlesss

they need more content asap

instead of taking holidays

like every mth

kek

"we have design a new rd, we need a vacation" where modders be like " guys heres my new mod after 1 week, try it its hard"

[hexed vapor]

Game's on the way out, fam, not much point hoping for a big content revamp.

[mellow creek]

dont need new content revamp

was hoping for a faster updates of rd like maybe every 2 mths or something

instead of half a year for 1 lol

[hexed vapor]

Not gonna happen.

Maybe in another timeline.

[mellow creek]

that kinda sucks

when modders work faster than devs

[hallow lark]

Only thing I dislike more than anything are Shadows… MORE than Mothers (which I still almost hate as much as Shadows)

[errant vigil]

Waiting for the day modders make an enemy from scratch

[hallow lark]

I swear if R8 adds in Shadow variants of Tanks or Mothers or worse… I’m gunna freak out

[royal lichen]

giant shadows with their freak sleeping postures.. behind it yes, aiming at head yes, hit shoulderblade. oh hi.

[atomic escarp]

why do they even do that

[hallow lark]

Ah… the “limping” sleeping giant

[hallow lark]

My guess? Like small shadows… they’re always limping

[atomic escarp]

I understand that but why they limp

[tough badger]

Power used for muscles diverted to cloaking field

[hexed vapor]

Probably because the devs wanted them to look freaky.

It's just the shooter postures.

You can load in and see it yourself

[atomic escarp]

they could just make it the normal striker pose 🤔

[past bough]

i hate shadow giants

[atomic escarp]

i like getting my health compressed its fien

[hexed vapor]

Probably because the devs wanted them to look freaky.

They have the striker poses too, btw

[wary olive]

We should get crawling shadow giants

[atomic escarp]

its all fun n games until you bump into a giant crouching

[hexed vapor]

That's a striker pose, though

[atomic escarp]

thought its the shooter one

[hexed vapor]

If you mean hybrids, hybrids are using a striker pose.

[atomic escarp]

that makes more sense

thanks 👌

[fallow wasp]

Nikki minaj pose

[frail arrow]

YO does the giant mom on r7 e1 respawn if we kill her?

[crystal oriole]

If I say no, will you kill her so you can have a fun surprise on the way back

[frail arrow]

:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)

[crystal oriole]

Excellent.

[frail arrow]

so I guess she does then

[crystal oriole]

but yeah she respawn

everything does.

[frail arrow]

thank you ❤️

[plucky breach]

oh lawd

i am so done

[past bough]

how much you wanna bet he had bots and just removed them at the end

[hearty escarp]

Even with bots that would be impressive as fuck

[worthy yacht]

How the fuck

I mean, 4.5h is long ass time

But still

[tough badger]

potential bio/food breaks during quiet sections

but also solo play tends to be uhhhhhh
like that a little bit

[burnt goblet]

How many potential terminal spawns in The code zones in d2 were there?

kinda forgot lol

[burnt goblet]

@hexed vapor

[hexed vapor]

Probably better off asking a speedrunner. The map gen is super broken, so it's way unpredictable.

It's not supposed to be rerolling like that.

Arguably there are as many as there are seeds

But I think there's some predictability to it.

It's going to depend on how many ways there are to break the map gen.

[deft kiln]

what do you mean by this

[deft kiln]

there is. things are based on other things tm

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, I'd assume it'd depend on how many item placement combinations can break the map gen.

And however combinations there are, that's how many terminal spawns (roughly) there are.

[burnt goblet]

I mean like how many locations in the zones where you get the code, 212/213

[deft kiln]

there is 3 on charger

then theres is a bunch on shadow with them all on the same spot so it doesn't matter

always in the same room tho\

[hard cape]

I usually open both doors to help my teammates

[burnt goblet]

just beat d2 again

fucking hell

[storm thunder]

@plucky breach recorded or not happen

[ashen summit]

can I 1 shot a charger scout from front? using sniper

[worthy yacht]

Doubt

Only Giga Shotgun(Scattergun) could do that

[ashen summit]

another failed e1 attempt

ft. staring competition

[wild jacinth]

you can but with 1 shot at the back! melee works only with 2 attacks at the same time in the back. How you do that is you have a friend, you wait at the end of the tentacles, when he starts pulling them in you start running while charging the attack and he will start dropping tentacles out but you still have a 1-2 seconds to hit him and he doesn't activate. tried it yesterday.

[wild jacinth]

why don't you simple bug the doors if the level is too hard for you? that's how i did lvl c3, bugged the door, you can kill them, they can't come in. i mean just saying...

[wary olive]

holy cow thats insane!

[mortal granite]

you could also uninstall the game, all the enemy just die

[real moss]

Basically you admit being weak

[wild jacinth]

well you always choose for yourself how you want to play this game, yes? You bought it, you play it however you like, i will play it however i like. sometimes i don't have 4 hours to finish it so i help myself. and that's on me, yes? that means, you can use bugs if you want, if you don't want, that's on you i guess.

[worthy yacht]

I mean, bugs will not last forever

[atomic escarp]

sure thing its your game you can do whatever you want but the game is meant to push you to the max and utilizing bugs that instantly kill the challenge is just not fun sure it can get you the win but its just not fun for me at least

minor bugs? sure but door cheese is just disgusting

and again its your game so if you wanna do it more power to you

[real moss]

Always that time excuse. And yes you can do it however you want, but you also accept being considered weak by the community

[wild jacinth]

thanks for the respect, yeah i mostly play for fun, it's a big challenge for me since i dont play it often, unfortunately not much time on my behalf

[worthy yacht]

I had one weird bug. We tried to do PE on R7B3. Despite us saying "Screw it, we just finish and try another day" the game gave us PE completion

[real moss]

With these devs .... you never know

[real moss]

Exactly, has been there since release of R7

[ashen summit]

oh no we clear that easily, just that we only have limited runs each weekend, and difficult part comes after the teleports

[ashen summit]

I know that part, just wanna know what happens if shot on front, thanks!

[atomic escarp]

i say getting to the teleport is the difficult part

coordination is hard amongst people

then you're no longer in a rush when pablo is gone

[ashen summit]

we already got it a okay, just crawling thru mother rooms ft. charger scout and 2 man defending while others are in time pressure of getting the passwords are much more difficult

[atomic escarp]

in my runs ive never had issues with sneaking for codes

always had plenty of time to get it

just pablo triggering a global conflict for us to handle

[plucky breach]

Couldn’t get through the last scan with bots

:(

[hidden crater]

Aktualy they simply left right before the mission ended🤓

[plucky breach]

I literally don’t give a fuck

Lmao

I’m just happy that i got the completion

[hidden crater]

How dare you not do e1 in the hardest way possible

[plucky breach]

Lmao

We literally cheesed

Every single door

[wind pilot]

What’s the name of the torso with the mechanical hand?

[fallow wasp]

The ruler of everything

[half hornet]

Kovac Pro-Car Elite

[hidden crater]

You understand

[wind pilot]

How do we get it?

[subtle vault]

RNG

[errant vigil]

The robo hand that I can only see on 5 weapons

[half hornet]

It's a random drop. I got it randomly from rundown 1 rewards.
If you cleared everything and still don't have it - you'll have to wait for next rundown to roll another dice.

It's the only armor variant with that hand for some reason.

[half hornet]

And this observation is true too - you barely see it on most weapons, especially anything that has a rifle grip (because it's your leading hand, that is out of frame most of the time).

Should've been left hand.

[past bough]

there's also 2 pants with a robot leg i think

[half hornet]

Yep.

[past bough]

i can't even remember the name of all cosmetics

[half hornet]

Shabby shorts with a proper prosthetic leg, and military style pants with a shabby prosthetic, reminiscent of Eli Vance' leg from Half Life 2

You can see them all on Apparel wiki page

[past bough]

ik
i just don't bother to read them

[half hornet]

Only one I remember is kovac scale

And scorpion mask of course

[past bough]

instead of thinking "oh look the santonim vest model I"
i just think "hackett's shirt"

i really like the model w hyperseal tho

[misty estuary]

hi

[subtle vault]

Is there any new cosmetics or is just the new helmet and re skin helmet?

[atomic escarp]

reskin helmet

[subtle vault]

damn

[half hornet]

For R1? No new cosmetics - each maim completion will just award you a random old drop, but you will also get the event reskin mask.

[subtle vault]

ok

Just wondering

[half hornet]

Imho kinda cringe to give away a mask that took 10 fucking mains to unlock (including E1), just coloured red.

[subtle vault]

I'm missing 18 cosmetics

yeah

[hexed vapor]

W8 holy shit, how are R1C1 players such fucking sweatlords

[candid dragon]

is there a point where they're just gonna have to give us IOU tokens?

[atomic escarp]

wot

[hexed vapor]

This dude hosting this lobby

is like "how many levels you guys played:

"Can you all run a booster?"

On fucking R1C1

[atomic escarp]

he has to be new

[candid dragon]

sounds like he's just excessively bad at shotcalling

[hexed vapor]

I thought R7C3 was bad

Holy fuck

[atomic escarp]

rip in peace

[nocturne flax]

Your still impressed by this

With the amount of pub hours you have

Im actually surprise you still find it shocking

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, but it's usually like

1 character

every 3-6 months

[nocturne flax]

Dragons and ztriw r4a2 you need to kite incident circa 2021

[nocturne flax]

Just wait for alt r2

You gonna see sum shit

Sweat and cheese of the likes we've never seen before

[hexed vapor]

Same person btw, "I have some of the best internet in the world where I live"

Shit ping

Holy shit we're gonna run out of tool.

We have 4 sentries and every single one is placed.

[narrow gulch]

some ppl take this game too seriously, its funny

[mortal portal]

Right? I say that everyday

Some people take this game as an Arma 3 RP operation

One of these days I'm gonna get called out for Fail RP

[half hornet]

Is there an issue with that?

[hexed vapor]

Big tool consumption.

[half hornet]

as long as they are spread out and shoot different targets it shouln't be a problem

I mean they DO kill enemies, right?

So its not like its wasted

[hexed vapor]

We might be okay because C1.

[half hornet]

unless its 4 snipers and they shoot the same sleeper

you wont, i already had my first wipe

[hexed vapor]

But it doesn't matter if they kill a lot if we run out of tool early.

[half hornet]

we had no ammo for hybrids

bastard are too tanky

[narrow gulch]

main thing is just not getting overwhelmed on c1

you dont need that much tool consumption to not get overwhelmed on some of the waves

so its a waste

[deft kiln]

Should have used boosters smh

[hexed vapor]

Saved by the fact that our sniper sentries are so poorly positioned that they can't actually shoot anything.

We have consumed every tool pack anyway, somehow.

[half hornet]

heh

[kind arrow]

currently in the middle of trying not to wake the entire population of sweden

had to walk through like 12 giant strikers and counting

and i just now spotted a big shooter

[obtuse surge]

insult his mother

[kind arrow]

theres 2 of them

[half hornet]

just sync stab them

[kind arrow]

they are in clusters of 4-5

[half hornet]

unlucky

[kind arrow]

this is r1b1 btw

[half hornet]

i was about to ask what fucking level are you playing

i dont remember that

[kind arrow]

this wasnt supposed to be "sneaking downstairs to get some ham at 4am" simulator wth

[obtuse surge]

dont kill them

grab the id and leave

[half hornet]

It was always that

[kind arrow]

it was usually always easier than stepping around my creaky ass floors

btw im doing this solo bc i was bored and none of my friends wanna play with me anymore :/

this was a mistake

im sorry for whoever i pissed off in the dev team

there was only 1 id in this zone

:)

[wary olive]

you dont want all 4 sentries down at the same time unless the waves are so absolutely fucking fat you need the firepower

it leads you to be imbalanced between tool and ammo later on

[half hornet]

well, in my wipe we somehow ran out of both so uh, i have no idea what happened there

something something shotgun sentry

[hexed vapor]

Omegalul

[kind arrow]

lma

[hexed vapor]

I can confirm

When we had a shotgun sentry

it ate all of our bridge tool by wave 3

and we were still fighting out asses off.

[mellow creek]

wait isnt r1c1 easy lol

i went down with 2 sentries and we defended with just 3 people lol

[narrow gulch]

theres a very simple explanation

not everyone can aim lol

despite most enemies moving in a straight line and pausing before attacks

[mellow creek]

just realised r1d1 the long hallway before the reactor

has the drum banging too

[light lagoon]

One of my mates brought one on C1 As well (he used it the whole rundown) and it practically ran out on the first wave so I just told him I'm not resupplying that, and then he would take tool packs for that and I'm like are you serious, I had to persuade him otherwise since I wasn't interested in burning every bloody tool on a sentry that couldn't kill jack.

[uneven vortex]

my group is suffering on r7c1

[hexed vapor]

It's astounding how it manages to spend all of its ammo every single wave

[light lagoon]

And kill like nothing.

[hexed vapor]

all while the enemy density is as if we had only 1 sentry, the other one.

I'm legitimately not sure if bio synergy makes it better or worse.

It might not do anything.

[half hornet]

probably worse

I think the idea for that thing is to put it on like corners where it takes a shot at occasional sleeper passing by

Not facing the wave as it approaches, not shooting it in the back, but to the side as they pass by

But viable spots for that are limited and i'm not how good that would be.

Either way the thing needs some balance changes fast.

[kind arrow]

HOLY SHIT I DID IT

i went afk for a few hours bc i had to go somewhere

came back and resumed

and did it

[atomic escarp]

i assume glp part

[formal matrix]

Hi, i have some questions for R1C1, At the end of the level, we have to re-activate the reactor, and then do the "REACTOR_VERIFY XXXX" 8 times, Staying at the end of the level is not possible due to lack of ammunition. Last time i atempted the level, We tried to activate the reactor, and then use the verify command onthe next room, but it didn't work, so we are supposed to do all command at the last terminal and then go grab loot in previous rooms during downtimes ? or am i doing things wrong ?

[atomic escarp]

The command only works on the terminal at the reactor

Let the initiation sequence finish then you get a minute to put in the code, let the timer hit 10 secs then put it in

This way you buy more time to loot more if needed

[uneven vortex]

the hold out in the 4 door room with the kidnappers

[atomic escarp]

oh that part is super fun

[uneven vortex]

it was fun! but very hectic and we had complete garbag weapons bcuz wedidnt realize we could get rid of the fog

so we wwere kinda stuck in an infinite loop of dying

[prisma zodiac]

F

[atomic escarp]

have you done b2 and b3 yet?

[uneven vortex]

whats that?

[prisma zodiac]

r7b2

the level?

[uneven vortex]

not sure

what ever mission i was talking abt above is the one we stopped at last night

weve been doing about a mission per night

[atomic escarp]

that one is c1

[uneven vortex]

No idea on the order sry

[prisma zodiac]

i mean. If you are at c1 (not cleared) then you still have half of r7 AT MINIMUM) and not the easy half

R1 is a lot easier than R7

[uneven vortex]

we just cleared C1

but it was rough

yea we get that

if its harder then good

[atomic escarp]

A-B-C-D-E

[prisma zodiac]

@uneven vortex you on your pc tn?

rn*

[uneven vortex]

yea

[prisma zodiac]

if you can send a pic of your rundown 7 screen in gtfo media, then would be cool

[uneven vortex]

sure

I dont think were that close to being done but

its only been like a week so

was hoping the other run downs would be unlockable rn

[prisma zodiac]

yeah sadly not
Theyll come tho

[uneven vortex]

what are those numbers under the levels?

[prisma zodiac]

As it gets harder youll take more attempts

the objectives

[uneven vortex]

we skipped on r7c1 bcuz we didnt hav the guns or ammo do to the bonus obj

will probs go back later

[prisma zodiac]

Main, secondary, overload, prisoner efficiency

Main = well main, you have to do it
Secondary = side objective you can choose to do
Overload = „harder“ side objective you can choose to do. Usually influences the way you play main
PE = main + secondary + overload in 1 run

R7c1 doesnt have bonus objectives

[uneven vortex]

oh really

i thought there was that special area

[prisma zodiac]

1,0,0,0 means you missed them/didnt do them (look at B3)
1,-,-,- means theres only the one you have done

[uneven vortex]

with that special key

Ohh ok

[prisma zodiac]

side areas are often ressources zone. Or give you access to the fog lowering (or are just optional path with the same goal)

[half hornet]

Later rundowns will cut down on that.

[prisma zodiac]

Yeah you still have full C2, C3, D1, D2 and E1 to do

Also B3 with the optionals (id recommend not trying PE first try)

Thats a lot of content

[uneven vortex]

im just not sure how i would extend this for months

[prisma zodiac]

C1 is pretty moderate. So just the mains of the other C and D will probably take you longer

[uneven vortex]

maybe its just cuz my group has been no lifing

or does it get that much harder

[prisma zodiac]

if your party struggled with C1 then E1 and C3PE, C2PE will probably take you multiple days each

[uneven vortex]

well see

alot of it was gun choice and too lazy to restart

[prisma zodiac]

let me check something real quick

[uneven vortex]

i dont doubt itll be harder though

[half hornet]

C2 main only is fine but secondary and overload are rough

And then there's C3 overload.

God, I hate it.

[prisma zodiac]

yeah the mains are usually chill. They definetly get harder but managable if your skill increases with it

I can assure you if you try to do C2PE rn you wouldnt make it

ok here

[uneven vortex]

i dont doubt it

[prisma zodiac]

me and the pretty veteran party i played with took

8 tries for C2PE, 10 for C3PE and 13 for E1 (imo the 3 hardest levels)
(Well theres d1 overload but thats a mess due to a bug in overload rn)

We couldve done them a bit quicker (especially C3) but we have around 5K hours combined (if not more)

[uneven vortex]

yea basically everything up until now excerpt for r7c1 weve 1 cleared

maybe 2

[prisma zodiac]

obviously that was fully blind and on stream for funsies but in comparision we first tried all of A, B and C1 (with B3PE which is a lot harder than C1)

[uneven vortex]

should be fun

[prisma zodiac]

yeah thats to be expected if you did R1 first
b3 with overload (or PE) is the only real challenge of B tier

[uneven vortex]

Yea i think

if we only had r7 avail

[prisma zodiac]

its definetly harder than all the other levels in R1 or the ones you did in R7

[uneven vortex]

it would have been way rougher

R1 really helped us understnad the game

[prisma zodiac]

which is perfect

but yeah. Youll probably still have multiple weeks (unless you guys keep playing daily) worth of content if you rly wanna finish all the levels (PE is the highest completion you can get an rly cool to do)

And by then ALT R2 shouldve dropped. Which has some harder stuff aswell

[uneven vortex]

thanks will be looking foward to it

[light lagoon]

Honestly B3 Without doing the PE Feels so.. empty.

[prisma zodiac]

And then theres also solo/duo and speedruns

Duo runs are my favourite. They still fee similar to 4mans but give you another level of difficulty and strategy

Solos are their own world. Like legit

[prisma zodiac]

im to scarred by b3 main speedruns to fully feel the same way

But yeah if you take it chill its just way to little action compared to overload

[light lagoon]

Overload wasn't even the hard part for my group. It was making them survive the Extreme that was genuinely challenging, though that was still only two wipes (we failed a third time due to a disconnect though which kinda killed all motivation to reattempt that night). We only failed on the Overload once and that was because the guy carrying the objective item dropped it at one point and forgot to pick it back up.

So we all got in the extraction scan and then you just see the damn thing 50m away and it's like.. oh.

[prisma zodiac]

OOF

[light lagoon]

It was a good laugh atleast, I just wondered how he could've carried that thing for a minute or so and then dropped it, and then completely forgot about it and not even question that he now had his gun out and was shooting stuff.

[prisma zodiac]

tunnel vision

[light lagoon]

Wouldn't be the first for him.

[uneven vortex]

yea i tried some duos the other night

doing security alarms is very hard

[atomic escarp]

the only interesting part on most levels

[pliant coral]

R1C1 kicking my ass @.@

[past bough]

just don't die

[pliant coral]

I've been trying with bots to get used to it and my biggest issue is running out of all my supplies by the 8th wave.

[past bough]

have you considered not running out of resources

[raven flare]

idk if this can be useful but not usin absolutely all the fire u got in the first like two three waves can be useful, like savin sentry or shootin sparsely, ive had that happen too on some levels so i just save as much as i possibly can
sorry if im just gettin out of nowhere tho

[wide wing]

Yeah I usually use 2 sentries for the first 2 waves, then 3 later on

[raven flare]

i mean even one with good placement
idk if theres more ammo than tools on the map tho would depend heavily on that

[burnt goblet]

Since they are playing with bots it's a bit harder to do, but you could switch out medkits that are closer to the reactor with ammo/tool that's further away. Prioritize weapons with high ammo to kill ratios, like hel revs and dmrs. Since the bots almost never miss, giving them accuracy based weapons is a good choice. You can take the sniper yourself since the bots will probably waste the ammo on small fries

2 turrets is usually good enough

Just keep at it, you'll get it eventually

[raven flare]

thats actually a good tactic nice

[past bough]

you could always

quit the game

and uninstall

[raven flare]

what r we, weak?
i am yes but even i dont unistall

[past bough]

best option imo

just don't play the game

[raven flare]

weak

[past bough]

nah

[tough badger]

touch grass then continue gaming

[raven flare]

play in the grass

[pliant coral]

good tips I'll keep that in mind

[atomic escarp]

go for triple sniper sentry and fill all of em to 100% then bring a 4 or 5 use tool refill on you

dont put in code till you have 10 secs left make sure you're there beforehand

[hidden crater]

Do you have to play with bots, for whatever reason

[pliant coral]

Nah, I don't HAVE to. I just don't wanna get carried through everything while I learn.

[atomic escarp]

preach

[hidden crater]

Fair, you could ask specifically to not receive a carry, but I get your situation

[real moss]

Good.

[grand apex]

4 turrets!,
1 - 3 wave - 2 burst
4 - 5 wave 2 burst 1 snip
6 - 8 wave 2 burst, 1 snip, 1 shotgun

gg

[real moss]

Dat shotgun gonna eat all the tool for the next 3 maps bruv

[grand apex]

thats why only use it on the last one

[real moss]

Just do 2 snipers and 2 burst

[grand apex]

on the holle

ahhaha

[daring pilot]

shotgun feels good in solo play

feels like its worse with symbiosis active

[real moss]

Yes in that timespan as well I meant

[grand apex]

insta kill horde

xD

[prisma zodiac]

just do 2 snipers, 1 burst and 1 bio

Give a bot bio (if you have a bot) and snips are more efficient and kill quickly

but yeah 2 snips, 2 burst >>> ever taking shotgun sentry

[real moss]

Fair

[hexed vapor]

4 sentries is p overkill, yeah.

And you might actually just run out of tool if you're not playing them correctly.

(still uses less tool than shotgun sentry).