gtfo-spoiler-chat

[fallow wasp]

I wish the destination portion of DX was stretched over the entire level

It would have been cool going back there repeatedly

[boreal fable]

hope won't random drops again

[fallow wasp]

I’m sure it will be random drops to a degree

Maybe after they finish things up they’ll add a different way of getting them though

[boreal fable]

i think I'll die if play too much for the drops

[prisma ibex]

just use the unlock all cosmetics mod

[fallow wasp]

We’re all dead here at gtfo

[boreal fable]

true

[twin dirge]

I do hope all cosmetics could be unlocked at the end
instead of forever being partial even if trying to the fullest

[fallow wasp]

For beating all E levels through every rundown they should grant those legendary shirtless cosmetics

Revealing that every one of the prisoners are actually buff as sweet hell, due to some tampering by Warden

[prisma ibex]

they will finally grow hair

[boreal fable]

before can find team to join was very painful

cause my friend quit

[prisma ibex]

damn

[fallow wasp]

Finding good teams can be tough in the pub groups

[twin dirge]

yep but sometimes you do get a group knowing what they're doing

[fallow wasp]

But keep trying and when you find good teammates then add them as a friend or something

Build your god squad

[prisma ibex]

use lfg channels

[boreal fable]

my friend play too much gtfo and say he has ptsf by the game

[prisma ibex]

coward

[fallow wasp]

Never heard that before

[boreal fable]

that's why he quit

[prisma ibex]

unfortunate

[fallow wasp]

Sad but there are plenty of people around in the discord

[boreal fable]

yea he just fear the game

[prisma ibex]

id play gtfo with you mary
ONLY if its not d1 tho

[twin dirge]

only D1

[fallow wasp]

As would I, but I am chilling at work so I can’t rn

[boreal fable]

almost got you

[fallow wasp]

I don’t have any particular level preference, besides maybe avoiding B3PE because I think the level is a slog after doing it twice

[prisma ibex]

why must you torture me

[boreal fable]

nah just joking

[twin dirge]

D1, C3, and B3 are all just slogs to replay a bunch

E1 too depending on the amount of first attempts

[fallow wasp]

First time beating B3PE we were stuck at the final checkpoint for like 2 hours

Half my squad was close to tears and tired as hell

I felt fine though, funnily enough

[prisma ibex]

what levels do you need done

[boreal fable]

funny that I only found out this month that gtfo actually has discord

[fallow wasp]

Welcome to the thunder dome then

[boreal fable]

all done for now

just play for fun

[prisma ibex]

same here

what do u think of e1?

[boreal fable]

pain

very painful for me

[boreal fable]

[prisma ibex]

same

thats why i play it so much

[boreal fable]

when the things that can kill, it just nothing to scary

[prisma ibex]

perhaps

[boreal fable]

if you still have ammo to do that

before I bought this game, my friend said that the development department showed the actual screen of the game shortly after the release, but they could not clear the level.

[robust marsh]

yeah they cant

[boreal fable]

sounds fun, then i buy it

[robust marsh]

they are the devs

[boreal fable]

XD

[robust marsh]

not the players

[boreal fable]

oh

i see

[prisma ibex]

devs cant clear their own level

[robust marsh]

but still its bad that they struggle on very easy levels

[light lagoon]

Honestly I wish that was my issue with that map when I did it with my mates. Instead they just kept screwing up earlier sections and would die in the Extreme and I'm like "Please for the love of God this isn't hard you shouldn't be struggling with this". It annoyed me to the point that I went and did it with bots out of friggin' spite.

[twin dirge]

I mean thats why R2 was much harder than R1
cause people were completing R1 solo and then the devs went "this is supposed to be a team game" and yeah

[boreal fable]

i played my friend's dark souls before and GTFO is kinder for me

[prisma ibex]

"this is supposed to be a team game" -🤓

[fallow wasp]

Are there any other things the devs have said are not coming to the game?

I remember at some point it was said that bots wouldn’t be in the game, and old rundowns would never be playable

But voila, the best backtracking ever

[jolly perch]

the only other thing i can remember is one of the original devs saying how the game was not meant to be played with pubs/matchmake

oh yeah and when they announced stamina, they made sure to say that it wasnt exactly stamina (it was)

[mellow creek]

does the new announcement mean

we have to wait for r1-6 again before r8

r2 d1 best fog level

[atomic escarp]

they re-releasing older rundowns with some changes and what not

[mellow creek]

damn

i hope the alt rundowns comes every week

instead of once a month

[atomic escarp]

idk about that one

[mellow creek]

if it comes every month... its gona be 2023 june before we see r8

[azure reef]

That would be my guess. The older rundown are the most difficult to remaster, since they are on much older versions of the game and have different mechanics (no stamina etc), so they will be harder to remaster. As they finish them, the newer rundown will I imagine be easier and faster to put out.

[mortal granite]

i don't know about harder

it's just some of them have rng in play

[azure reef]

Harder to remaster*

[mortal granite]

aight

[azure reef]

The closer you get to r7, the similar the rundown are, so less work to port them. In theory.

[boreal fable]

i think i play toooo much

[mortal granite]

play more

[boreal fable]

[obtuse cedar]

this is a low amount of completion to think "i play too much"...

[azure reef]

Needs more C3PE

[mortal granite]

well, there is no fail counter tho

[obtuse cedar]

true

[mortal granite]

how would you know they didn't play a lot

[obtuse cedar]

but based of the completions.. this is really low

[mortal granite]

i have a 10% winrate on D1

[boreal fable]

i think i'll die first

[mortal granite]

[obtuse cedar]

also... you just have to recreate the map in the current engine....
this will also delete the rng aspect of error alarm spawning in front though

it's not like the tiles have been the same for forever

you ain't gonna see floodway in r1-r4 🙂

[mortal granite]

also also, if the level is big enough, they can chop them up and make them as secondary/overload

[jolly perch]

I would be surprised if its 1 month per rundown then r8

they're trying to make the expeditions look as close as possible and shit

all the while still testing out balances, bugs, etc (iirc its confirmed there's some tool balancing for r1 ext)

there's also rundowns where it'd take them a lot longer to actually do shit for. R2 -> R3 was a relatively small jump; R3 is best characterized by its utter shortness, so it would be quicker to release. R3 -> R4 is a massive pole vault in comparison, so it would hypothetically take longer

then by the time you rerelease r6 which also was pretty heavy in expedition size, you would have to make r8, which they probably would be working on it in the background and whatnot (conceptualizing and shit) but then they would still have to implement it into the game, bug hunt it, etc

which id hope would take some time considering they're treating r8 like its planned to be the finale of GTFO

[obtuse cedar]

R8 2024

[jolly perch]

there's also that they dont know what to do with extensions. There's like 3 routes they can take, 2 of which mean extending the period between rundowns

and then when you throw in their seasonal breaks...

[vivid quartz]

the engine has nothing to do with enemies spawning infront on error alarms, it's an enum type

[obtuse cedar]

I meant what i said by. If they remake the level with how the game is right now. The current mechanics. It is pretty doubtful we Will get rng spawns for error alarm instead of always behind you

[vivid quartz]

never know ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Hopefully they change it, it made for some pretty unfair experiences

[prisma ibex]

just dont make a game on unity

simple

[obtuse cedar]

The current iteration is still rng base according to a bunch of pubs 🙂

[vivid quartz]

Games made in unity can be good, I think this game would've benefitted from being made in Unreal though ngl

[prisma ibex]

both are ass

just dont make a game

[vivid quartz]

well what do you suggest xD

Could always make your own engine tbf

[prisma ibex]

yeah

i think resident evil 7 did that

[vivid quartz]

Oh really? I didn't know that

[prisma ibex]

could be wrong i dont remember

but gtfo is an indie game so that would be too high of expectations

[vivid quartz]

Ah yeah. it's literally called "RE Engine" lol

I mean, I don't think it's too hard even for a small company to make thier own game engine

Just very time consuming

[prisma ibex]

like 10c would take the time for that

[mortal granite]

they did

for payday

[prisma ibex]

current 10c team

[mortal granite]

current 10c still have 2 guys that make grin engine

your argument is rigged from the start

[prisma ibex]

counter point:

[mossy portal]

did anyone have trouble finding the last terminal for E1 too? me and my boys have been running it for the last few hours and we can't find it

[prisma ibex]

4th code?

[mossy portal]

yea the one with the super long timer

[prisma ibex]

you have to backtrack for that

so remember those rooms you went through to get to the reactor?

[mossy portal]

no shit... we've been running fave against walls looking for it by the reactor 😭

yea

[prisma ibex]

yeah you have to go back through those rooms until you reach the room before the big middle room (idk if this makes sense)

theres a hallway in that room with a security door in there

you have to go through there for the 4th code

[gloomy flame]

The first room that has the scouts/mothers/babys inside, it's in the back of that room, a zone door, that leads to that terminal

that's the best description I can give

[prisma ibex]

yeah

[mossy portal]

oh so we just blew by it because we were running like pansies, got it lol thanks

[prisma ibex]

👍

good luck with e1

[crystal oriole]

Can't wait to go back with 100% infection immunity boosters lmaooo

Just hope they add a fog turbine tbh.

If not...then I guess my group will cry lol

[mellow creek]

its the best coz theres no fog turbine kek

[jolly perch]

man

some of these expeditions are going to be easy as FUCK with boosters now

like r2d1

[real moss]

That's why we still play the game without boosters

[boreal fable]

sounds fun

[hexed vapor]

R2D1 still the best level in the game.

As long as they don't ruin it.

[nocturne flax]

I will beat yo ass for saying dumb stuff like this

[hexed vapor]

It's absolutely true.

[twin dirge]

checkpoints ruin the game /s

[atomic escarp]

do they?

[real moss]

They do as they are currently implemented

[atomic escarp]

how should they implement them

as far as i see they are fine

[mortal granite]

some bug here and there

[stable pivot]

If the checkpoint bugs were fixed they'd be fine - they broaden the audience the game can appeal to, as some people don't have the time to replay entire level sections again and again due to a harder part of the level.

"But REEEEE checkpoints make the game too easy REEEEEEEE" - you have the option to not use them. Don't gatekeep more casual players.

[twin dirge]

based

the amount of new players that quit the game because checkpoints bugging out must exist

[stable pivot]

Though I do agree that there should be some kind of limit to them so that players won't spend ten hours reloading a checkpoint...

[stable pivot]

Yeah, their bugs are the main problem with them.

[tame cloak]

Fixing the checkpoint bugs won't significantly increase player retention tho, maybe a tiny bit, but not much

[real moss]

Limit them to 3 use

[twin dirge]

I mean yeah why else are the bugs still here

[glass sundial]

It was a fun level if you had competent players. Otherwise it genuinely made people quit the game entirely lol

Sucks to suck, I guess

[heavy blade]

Does anyone know a good guide on how to do the terminal bypass portion of d2? i have no idea where to go etc

[obtuse cedar]

what part exactly are you struggling with

finding password?, finding cell?

[heavy blade]

im not sure

ive never done the back area before

im trying to learn the pathing so if i join other players who havent beaten it i can help them with that

[obtuse cedar]

first one is a terminal password you are searching for. which zone you open is determined by the central terminal with all the resources. check the terminal to know which zone you need to open.
chager side terminal : go to the left when entering followed by right instantly (that big door in that super small room) terminals will always be in that room
shadow side terminal : in room A on the right of the room at the center

2nd part of the level you can choose whatever side you want. you are searching a cell and there is at leas one cell per side

that's it

[heavy blade]

thank you that helps a lot i wasnt even sure what i was searching for on the terminals in the first room. much appreciated man

[daring pilot]

When you enter in the final terminal command, don’t try to cheese, the game will punish you

This will be the second terminal you enter a command into, not the first

[sharp merlin]

wtf do you mean by cheese

[sharp merlin]

how do you cheese when entering the final command

[daring pilot]

Trying to send 3 ppl back and have one do stick

Ik CP scan, phrased my statement badly

[sharp merlin]

i see

cheers

[daring pilot]

Some people send their main group back and have one guy put in stick, but it spawns punishment waves if you do

[mellow creek]

when gtfo movie

[stable pivot]

A series that explores the construction of Garganta, BIOCOM, KSOs and the eventual NAM-V outbreak both inside the complex and in the outside world would be extremely interesting, especially with characters like scientists, pit bosses and workers that the logs mention showing different perspectives to the whole story.

[half hornet]

Sounds boring as hell.

It will be one of those Netflix quick series, filled with incompetent bureaucrats and people in positions of power making the most stupid decisions imaginable.

The only good scene will be Schaeffer drinking with his friend.

[twin dirge]

thats pretty realistic lmao

since either it'll be events that lead up to a doom ending
or go alongside the game for a big finale

[fallow wasp]

Anticlimactic ending: the warden finally makes a perfect soldier invisible to sleepers and discards all the prisoners

[mortal granite]

the player can now lurking through sleeper without any difficulty

con: they have no weapon

you have to go find some batteries before your cloaking device is out of power

[deft kiln]

New gtfo game comes out staring specimen 23 complex adventures

[real moss]

and steam discussions players are finally happy

[half hornet]

Steam forums are only happy when dead

[real moss]

True

[subtle vault]

Could we get a little sneak peak at something new for Alt R1? 👉👈

[robust marsh]

@broken scarab dev leaks when?

also

are we going to have a repeat of R7 when the trailer was dropped after rundown also dropped

meaning the trailer doesn't do anything?

[robust marsh]

(just want to know and have no intention to comment further after answer has been given)

[atomic escarp]

not sure what you mean

[subtle vault]

Dev leak

Hand it over

[robust marsh]

the trailer for rundown 7 dropped as R7 dropped or very close to it

[atomic escarp]

it was like 1 hour before the drop if i recall correctly

[twin dirge]

yeah no hype time it just came with the rundown

[robust marsh]

it was sad

but also it was most likely planned to drop by than

thats why im raising awareness now (weeks before Alt 1)

[mortal granite]

raising awareness is great

[subtle vault]

Come on Calle. Don’t fail the vibe check

[kindred mortar]

I don't know about you, but I just now realized that that post about comparing the early prototype game is actually a dev leak of R1A1

In both the zone index is 49 and objective is a dna sample

[robust marsh]

well we want a new one

[twin dirge]

graphics are updated

stamina applied

what else not on roadmap anyhow

[kindred mortar]

I'm more interested in the old runds release schedule and when 8 will now be released

[subtle vault]

Ludvig leaks

My beloved

[crystal oriole]

@broken scarab Here to ask the even more important question:

Will ALT: Rundown 1 have the OG Rundown 1 combat themes and stuff?

[atomic escarp]

^

the real question

simon fell off, everytime a new combat music is added, it's worse than the previous one

i'm sorry but this is the truth

[subtle vault]

The story fell off

[atomic escarp]

it never stood up

[subtle vault]

Goofy ass teleportation

R6 completely killed me on lore for this game

[atomic escarp]

schaeffer and henrikkson arguing like couples in open mic

i feel like a third wheel

[subtle vault]

Oh god. They suck too

C3- “I’m… I’m doing what I can!”

Like bro, shut up

I’m trying my best not to get attacked by that weird looking dog

[twin dirge]

I think it would've been more fine if it was toggle-able

[atomic escarp]

but the lore

schaeffer straggling maddox to death is really important to the lore

especially the r7 players

[twin dirge]

I did enjoy playing as "prisoners" before it was made out that they're actually captive heros

[atomic escarp]

it's the battlefield treatment

i just want to be nameless prisoners where i just do chores and have fun

similarly, a nameless soldier in the meatgrinder battlefield

[twin dirge]

oh yeah 2042 not even giving customization
just different specialists lmao

[tough totem]

wasn't lore originally like "you want to know a bit more abt the characters you play so you can connect to them"?

pretty sure that was the reason for the 4 prisoner logs where they get interviewed

[half hornet]

The characters are fine

L4d characters are like some of the best characters in the industry and they are deeply unique and personal.
... Except Roshell.

[tough totem]

yeah I'm cool with the indi ideal character backstories

fell off when they added more than that tho

[atomic escarp]

coach

[half hornet]

Some people don't care about the lore and that's fine. But it's here to stay.

Right now the bigger issues is that they introducing space and time parallel universe shenanigans.

[tough totem]

joined this year explains it all ngl

[half hornet]

And I have doubts that the writers can pull it off without creating utter nonsense.

Why is it so hard to keep things grounded...

[tough totem]

writers are just googling sci-fi topics and adding it

teleport, wormholes, time travel, etc.

[wary olive]

Or they played half life

🤓

[half hornet]

Hey half life was way more grounded than this. Until Alyx, that is...

[daring pilot]

Lmao i’ve only seen gameplay of Alyx, none of the other games

[half hornet]

You should play them, they're great. Graphics are dated, but other than that...

Just play Black Mesa instead of the actual HL1

[daring pilot]

I mean, if you look closely, half the graphics these days look “dated” to a degree

[half hornet]

Depends

[daring pilot]

Talking about games that aren’t trying to

Elden ring kinda hit that for me

[half hornet]

Well yeah, it's a style now

[daring pilot]

It looked good for sure

[half hornet]

Like Ultrakill

[atomic escarp]

black mesa was some good shit ngl

[daring pilot]

YES

[atomic escarp]

but original HL still feels good

[half hornet]

But hl was trying hard at the time of ancient times of 2000s

[daring pilot]

Valheim weirded me out

Looks normal at a distance but close up it’s REALLY pixelated

[half hornet]

If you play episode two with commentary on they are blushing about new flame physics

Either way its kinda eh. Like it's good enough but could be better.

Thankfully there are mods that fix that, of course.

But say goodbye to performance.

[daring pilot]

I do like what GTFO does ngl

[half hornet]

Well yeah gtfo is exactly how half life would look like if made today

[daring pilot]

Graphics up close are ok, but you usually won’t stop to look at them

And sleeper models are really nice

[broken scarab]

Music? No

[atomic escarp]

wow

my genuine reaction

biggest 10cc L ever

[bold widget]

0/10

[robust marsh]

so sad i didn't get any answers

[half hornet]

Me playing with no music: "hm?"

[tough totem]

me playing with music and music only: 😭

[crystal oriole]

Oh...that's sadge.

[twin dirge]

completely different games lmao

Alyx actually gives the answer 🙄

[half hornet]

I meant aesthetics. You don't feel the similiraties?

[twin dirge]

thats true

definitely with the new lore

which kinda sucks

makes GTFO feel less special

more so just a copy of Half Life

[half hornet]

Not a bad thing imho.
Now if only gameplay and optimisation were as great

[pliant shard]

WAKE UP DEV LEAK DROPPED

[daring pilot]

We woke up in #gtfo-chat

[hard cape]

scary half man

[mortal portal]

He went from Hackett to Hack

[fallow wasp]

Someone Hacked his legs off

[hard cape]

what's your favorite weapon for the rundowns?

[strange junco]

ar/mg combo

[obtuse whale]

hel revolver/machine gun

[half hornet]

Expeditions*. Rundown is the whole campaign.

Recently I'm a big fan of pistol + heavy pistol combo. Very tacticool.
When I'm extra lazy - I bring the Bullpup for that no recoil chill.

[hard cape]

i liked bullpup before the r7.

[half hornet]

They changed nothing about it, did they?

Still the same thing. Long range smg with no spray.

Also it's the only not-handgun that looks good in FP view.

I love it when I can see the barrel sticking out and pointing forward.

Other assault rifles look like stubby boxes, because the PoV hides the barrel.

[strange junco]

fatass gun

[stable pivot]

Double tap rifle + Pump action shotgun whenever the former is available. I would use other secondaries if they had blue/white sights, but sadly there isn't sight color customization yet as an accessibility option.
Otherwise HEL revolver + Heavy Assault Rifle.

[fringe surge]

Classic ar and mg

Cant go wrong with it

Hel shotty has been fun this rundown tho

[obtuse surge]

i just got the replayable B1 scan

lets gooo

[hallow lark]

From that dev leak… it looks like A1 of Alt-R1 will have infection in it?

[dreamy bramble]

?

why

[tough totem]

they said they weren't doing infection for R1 bc it's the theme of R2

[hallow lark]

Hmm… look closer on that dev leak (3rd player from top to bottom). It has the little thing that’s not like the others

[dreamy bramble]

you mean his name lol

[atomic escarp]

That's just a long name

[dreamy bramble]

{10CC} is the tag devs use

sometimes

[tough totem]

player 1 and 3 have a [10cc] tag before their name

other 2 are probably different jobs that happen to be testing

[atomic escarp]

The only way you'd be infected is by syringes if they are in altR1

[dreamy bramble]

syringes shouldn't be present before r3 regardless since there aren't lab/datacenter tiles

[atomic escarp]

Fair enough 🤔

[errant vigil]

They made it so that storage tiles are able to have them

But for Alt R1 I doubt anything other than engine update are coming to the map

[hallow lark]

Well… they’re releasing ALTversions of the old rundowns

According to the earlier gtfo prompt… the old rundowns are being reborn with sharper teeth and more so I would assume with stuff that we’ve seen so far

[errant vigil]

#gtfo-chat message

No new features for R1

[tough totem]

wait sooo

took them 4 months to re-release R1

[errant vigil]

Thinking that they've been working the for more than 1 month

[nocturne flax]

If by r3 we dont have a "combat theme select" in settings

Ill riot

!

Why my suggestion from a year and half ago didnt got implemented yet!?!?!?

[atomic escarp]

Low priority

[nocturne flax]

Its escential to the game !?!?!?!?

!?!?!?!?

[atomic escarp]

When was the last time you had a goodnight sleep

[nocturne flax]

Sleep its for the weak

I do hard drugs on lunch break

[atomic escarp]

Mr 69k hours need sleep

[nocturne flax]

Stop been wholesome

[atomic escarp]

Cant help it im always upbeat and happy

[jolly perch]

they've been relatively vague on what it means

like ztriw pointed out, theres no new features for r1. There isnt any infection fog (because its not introduced yet) and there's no checkpoints (because its not introduced yet)

but to the extent of that isnt known. I would imagine "sharper teeth" just means that they're doing some of the newer alarm scans but that goes against what they've been saying and shit

[tough totem]

it really just sounds like all the old content but eith the newer textures and stamina junk

which sucks bc old scan textures were so cool

[errant vigil]

What, they look identical to me

“New” ones are taller tho

[atomic escarp]

@nocturne flax

biggest and fattest 10cc L

i don't even care about bug fixes at this point, i just want r1-2 combat music

imagine sacrificing the best combat music just so you can shill your "music transitions" when it doesn't even work half the time

sidenote, r1 is the foundation of getfo, think of it like cod waw zombies' Nacht, the most barebones version of the gamemode

now r2 and beyond, those are like bo1-bo3

then you have the recession and a general downgrade in r6 and 7, those are like bo4-vanguard

:^)

[tough totem]

old ones were horizontal lines, now they're just transparent marshmallows

same with player outlines

[atomic escarp]

new scans makes it hard to shoot when i crouch

old good new bad

[orchid kindle]

Like a lot of things (but not all)

[atomic escarp]

the only thing i like is terminal qol from r7

everything else is a downgrade

recoil animations are a downgrade, visuals are a downgrade, sniper reload animation is a downgrade compared to pre r6

new smg/carbine reload animation look worse

shotgun reload animation is already downgraded because r1-3 is the best one

r7 music is a downgrade and doesn't function well 70% of the time

[twin dirge]

I mean visuals are subjective

higher resolution and polished? sure

having that good atheistic from R1? not really no

[broken scarab]

I like how this channel has become the conservative hangout

[hoary musk]

Devs better watch their back in here🔫

[broken scarab]

Come at me

[vestal mountain]

Gonna save that message for later

[mortal granite]

that's a bullet i am willing to save

[hexed vapor]

I dunno about that one, I prefer R1-3 visuals, but in the same way that I hear people preferring the pre-alpha visuals.

R6+ visuals are a bit glary imo, but it's not like the old stuff was anything magical.

[mortal granite]

oh no, it looked like different people like different style of the game

what are we going to do

[atomic escarp]

yea if you noticed in the sentence

it's a subjective opinion

insane concept right?

[broken scarab]

Haha, different opinions - who could've known!

[atomic escarp]

almost like we live a world where each individual has a mind of their own

crazy right

[hexed vapor]

I mean, you're pretty clearing saying it's a "downgrade," which is some pretty strong language for "I preferred XYZ"

[mortal granite]

so you're saying, we can ignore it altogether?

that's insane

[atomic escarp]

it's your choice

[mortal granite]

thanks random stranger on the internet

[atomic escarp]

just like how people said kiting is the definitive strategy

[mortal granite]

[atomic escarp]

it's just a player choice in the end

[broken scarab]

Or developer choice 🙂

[robust marsh]

you make fun of it now but in a few hours you will forget this concept and will attack anyone who has a different opinion than yours (:

[atomic escarp]

and?

[robust marsh]

lets move on from that side of it

[hoary musk]

I hope I'll see it again some day!

[robust marsh]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

CURSED!!!

BACK DEMON

[kindred mortar]

This face is so fucking ridiculous 🤡

[nocturne flax]

High Caliber Pistol
Reduced damage
Increased ammo capacity
Increased range

:[

no more oneshotting chargers

cs changes looking good

[atomic escarp]

@silent kettle they made the gun unusable now

[nocturne flax]

r1 machinegun back but with more ammo

nice

[atomic escarp]

they nerfed the prifle even if it's the worst gun

[nocturne flax]

eeh its alright, there was no reason to take revo if you could take ps

since you had like 14 bullets in it

• thermal

i can see why theyve done it

[atomic escarp]

uh no?

faster reload, better refill

then again the 14 dmg was a nerf

because you could shoot giant head twice

[nocturne flax]

giants are not for ps

you shoot smalls for it

[atomic escarp]

it is for hybrids

[hexed vapor]

In what world?

[atomic escarp]

and big flyer

[nocturne flax]

with every gun thats for smalls you just default to mag dumping the giants

[atomic escarp]

when it did 12.21 dmg

you could shoot giant head twice

before it pops

[nocturne flax]

so the mag decrease makes sense so it allows revo to do stuff

[hexed vapor]

You couldn't tho, not in R7.

[atomic escarp]

.

[nocturne flax]

it dont really matter when its a special anyways and you get 30% back

and can kill a lot more without reloading

and see shadows

for free

[atomic escarp]

i could already see shadows

[nocturne flax]

only drawback been reload speed

[atomic escarp]

by using my eyes and situational awareness

[nocturne flax]

oh no

[atomic escarp]

insane right?

just like r4e1 revo hold

[nocturne flax]

yeah i pioneer that shit

[atomic escarp]

could literally solo hold wave 1-4

[nocturne flax]

the change its good tho

its not that crazy neither

still the same gun regardless

[atomic escarp]

14 dmg is meaningless

[nocturne flax]

for revo?

[atomic escarp]

might as well give me 12.21 dmg

yea

[nocturne flax]

i see that as extra range

[atomic escarp]

actually

12.5

so it hits a breakpoint for dmr

[hexed vapor]

Right, I'm saying you couldn't 2-tap striker titans in R7 either.

[atomic escarp]

well i'm saying before r7

you can't one tap giants so it's a good thing

[hexed vapor]

Oh, you mean Revo?

[atomic escarp]

yea i was talking about revo

because i don't care about prifle except two parts in r7

where it's actually better than revo

one part is r7e1 wave 2, because you can pop the entire flyer wave in 2 mags

[nocturne flax]

ayo we can play r7 still

less go

[atomic escarp]

does that mean i can join pubs and give them clears

[boreal tendon]

the machinegun in ALT is closer to R5 MG than R1 for sure

[hexed vapor]

RIP, 3-shot then?

What is new High Cal like?

[nocturne flax]

THEY GAVE DMR THE OLD RECOIL !!!!!

💀

[hexed vapor]

Omegalul

[bold widget]

oh boy

That will take some time getting used to it

[desert shell]

no more rundown specific guns?

[half hornet]

High cal nerf, me sad

Can't bodyshot oneshot a shooter anymore

Or a charger Scout for that matter.

[bold widget]

probably in the back you could

[prisma ibex]

this is not true

its a gaslight

there is no alt rundown 1

[half hornet]

How much did they increase the range?

Because ability to oneshot strikers from a notable range is nice to have.

[nocturne flax]

Why they keep buffing carabine

?

[boreal tendon]

while leaving smg unchanged

[half hornet]

Because nobody uses it I guess

[prisma ibex]

i like the carbine

[boreal tendon]

what

[half hornet]

Burst weapons in general seem to be unpopular cross games

[twin dirge]

I rarely see anyone use carbine lmao

[nocturne flax]

Shits op already

[prisma ibex]

i must one of the few people who uses the carbine

[boreal tendon]

30->48 magsize

[nocturne flax]

Carabine gonna end uo been thr new hel revo eventually lmao

[prisma ibex]

carbine is goated idc what anyone says

[twin dirge]

I mean it is now something to use over the others

[nocturne flax]

It was always good

[half hornet]

No penetration - no meta value

[nocturne flax]

Dont know why they keep buffing it kekw

[boreal tendon]

what

[half hornet]

Its a weird little gun

Just kinda... Unpleasant to use.

Stats are good but it's so boring.

[boreal tendon]

wh-

[twin dirge]

it's like kinda OP now though

[half hornet]

It's basically a quirky pistol. You press lmb and it goes brrt instead of bang. Shooting sound is lame, I don't feel the recoil, spamming lmb like madman becomes a habit and I kinda hate it.

I'll give it another try but I can't use it for more than 1 expedition at a time. It gets old fast.

[prisma ibex]

praise the carbine

[twin dirge]

fuck the- nvm

[last gust]

yeah carbine was probably 4th best main already

not a fan of high cal pistol changes

maybe it'll be useful somewhere, but it's definitely worse against chargers now

and snatchers

if it's any indication, nearly got the e1 duo today, the deagle nerf will make future attempts harder

[astral ferry]

how much extra bullets does hi cal have now?

[last gust]

2 extra per refill, by the looks of it

might be a fractional amount I'm not picking up on yet, but it was 9, I just got 11

damage per refill is up from 270 to 275

[astral ferry]

gain 2 extra bullets but lose charger one shot potential 😭

[last gust]

having to chip every charger with hel revo after deagle is not something I'm looking forward to

[prisma ibex]

mfw no maul

[last gust]

like, I had to do it once every maybe 6 or so chargers

[half hornet]

Excuse me?

2 bullets? That's all we got for losing a major breakpoint?

Actually feeling bad right now

They could at least buff the fuckin' hipfire

[jolly perch]

i cant say im super happy they randomly dropped the update

i feel as though a little bit of warning would have been nice

[turbid cliff]

Perhaps

Not as bad as surprise r6 though

[jolly perch]

surprise r6 was so funny

[atomic escarp]

nah, r6 was an entire rundown replacement

this is just adding an old one

it's fine

[jolly perch]

I remember it seeming like they rushed out the rundown specifically so they could drop it on the anniversary; so much core shit was fucked

[fickle pivot]

apparently there's a variant of the R7 10/10 Main mask, just got this,

[half hornet]

Still bad mask

Fix the bald head, then we'll talk

[fickle pivot]

its a tad nicer than the regular variant imo, but still not the nicest

[half hornet]

The mask itself is amazing

but bald head

[fickle pivot]

eh, I'm not a fan of how the eyes look

i'm just waiting for them to add these two masks from the banner

the right one is technically ingame as the tigris mask, but there's no solid black variant

[half hornet]

Right one appears to be tigris

But middle one... Yeah.

[fickle pivot]

yeah it's tigris without the paint

[subtle vault]

The middle one is just the falcon with an armored plate on the visor

[subtle vault]

I got this helmet and daudas mask when I beat A1

[fickle pivot]

yeah i got it when i beat a1 too

maybe it's just the set reward for beating r1a1?

[subtle vault]

It’s strange tho. Daudas make is suppose to be a secondary reward

[fickle pivot]

i was once playing moddwas thised and i remember one of the available masks another variant of the falcon, but with a super high tech plate over the visor with like a camera lens-looking thing in the middle really hope, it gets added at some point, since i'm pretty sure it isn't modded

i'm not sure if i'm allowed to post an image of it here

[subtle vault]

Hmmmmmm

I think I have an idea what you are talking about

[fickle pivot]

the glass on the visor was red

[obtuse surge]

ty for making combat shotgun good

[astral ferry]

are one shots more consistent with the tighter cone?

or was it removed way back in the r5 one

[digital dawn]

I got like 9/10 one shots, so it definitely feels like it.

[astral ferry]

how far are you away when doing the one shots?

[digital dawn]

Pretty close for most of them

most were in their attack animation already

[astral ferry]

nice, we get a new wave-hold option

[jolly perch]

does b2 still only have sleeping shooters

[mortal granite]

yes

[twin dirge]

skill issue

[tough totem]

strictly sleeping shooters

and scout

[jolly perch]

i cant play r1 for another few hours, but is there any difference in alarms

[subtle vault]

So far the only thing I’ve noticed is they now display the class of the alarm

[atomic escarp]

the only changes i felt was occasional hybrids in r1c1

and d1 alarm i think?

2 hour rundown

still more fun than r7

[subtle vault]

I’m looking forward to C2

Beat A1 this morning

[brisk wraith]

Pretty sure they have a set wave they spawn in

[hearty bridge]

"When you revisit the six expeditions you will realize that things have changed down there — and not for the better."

Can someone tell me whats changed? Cause after all lvl i have no idea, so probably maybe somethin in logs is somethin new that i dont know

[dreamy bramble]

hybrids appear sometimes :)))))

[real moss]

this

[vague cedar]

doneeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[pliant shard]

Level layout differences and the hybrids

[icy pendant]

does it feel modern enough?

like not underwhelming to play after 7.0?

[boreal tendon]

i'd not be suprised if those "differences" were solely due to them not rerolling seeds enough

[obtuse surge]

idk because im not new but i'd think it might feel underwhelming cuz it's just less features used

and their first iteration of level design

[pliant shard]

If you played since r1 it’s gonna be a breeze. If you’re new it’s like a new rundown but it’s using r1 design + style

[nocturne flax]

Story wise its kinda pog too

[icy pendant]

aight

[obtuse surge]

read the long mails

[nocturne flax]

It makes sense that schaeefer would be touching pipes since r1

Plom plom plom

[atomic escarp]

lore is so sick

despite the playerbase probably speeding through without checking for lore

[nocturne flax]

Nam.v be aliens and shit

[atomic escarp]

cliche

[nocturne flax]

I dony pay attention tk the lore

I just casually stumble into it

I was likr damn

[atomic escarp]

damn

i don't really care

just let me be prisoners and try to survive

[subtle vault]

Is there any other new cosmetics besides the red ranger and the all 6 mains helmet?

[obtuse surge]

guys you can skip accepting the eula and privacy policy if you launch the game through an invite

[subtle vault]

👀

[brisk wraith]

Did anyone actually read the new EULA?

[mossy marsh]

Which EULA?

[fallow wasp]

Yo I think rundown specific weapons are finished

[atomic escarp]

id say its average

[humble dagger]

cant wait to realize I accidentally agreed to be sent down a santonio facility

[soft shale]

Yellow Glowsticks thats new c:

[tough totem]

good thing you know how to survive down there

just stand on a pipe behind a thin wall and hammer

[hard cape]

So according to the terminal story, the rest of the world is dead, we are the only survivors ?

[half hornet]

Yes.

Also #gtfo-lore

[kind surge]

i highly reccomend reading the "for dummies" doc in the pins of gtfo-lore

[mellow creek]

ooo

theres pe in alts lvls ?

oh nvm

[hard cape]

in r1D1 we hit reactor_shutdown but nothing happens

is that normal?

[strange junco]

supposed to start a scan

[sharp merlin]

no

you wait like 10 second

then it gives you a code

which you reactor_verify ###

then starts scan

[tough totem]

devs when it takes 4 months to re-release content that can be finished within 3 hours

[errant vigil]

Damn just like most most 4 year developed games

[tough totem]

that's craaaazy

but they actually make stuff in that time period :P

like original stuff

[lavish wyvern]

When is the second alt rundown coming?

Like

Devs already have a schedule?

[tough totem]

no idea. this one was said to be released "in a few weeks", then was released 6 days after that announcement

[lavish wyvern]

Ok

[tough totem]

tomorrow?

I dunno

[burnt goblet]

Buffed carbine again?

jesus

[half hornet]

gun so boring they have to buff it to god-like status before people even consider it

[fallow wasp]

A 4 shot burst seems yucky to me, but if it was a 3 shot burst wouldn’t it just be the burst rifle

[open pier]

Tbh, I used it after the first buff and thought it was okay before then

Liked to use it alongside revolver

[fallow wasp]

Sadly no spear buffs

[pliant oracle]

is alt r1 out now?

[crystal oriole]

Been using the carbine practically all of R6-7

Didn't know it was so hated

[half hornet]

Its not so much hated... Its just kinda boring.

The Pistol is basically the same weapon and plays exactly the same

careful range leads and close range LMB spam

Except it looks and sounds cooler.

There's simply something deeply unsatisfying about using carbine. It works, it just doesn't give that dopamine kick.

[fallow wasp]

Unsatisfying burst number

[half hornet]

that too actually

never liked 2 or 4 round bursts

3 seems to be just right

[fallow wasp]

Maybe not the coolest sounding

What would you say is the coolest sounding gun in gtfo?

[half hornet]

hmmm

[fallow wasp]

I’d definitely say it’s a special

They tend to just be cooler in general

I love the meaty kick of the revolver and hel rifle

[half hornet]

For mains i definitely like the pistol. Very sharp and loud bang.

[fallow wasp]

Yes, a very crisp option

For tools I think the bio tracker sounds the best

Just because I like the ping sound

[half hornet]

For secondaries... I really like Precision Rifle's sharp bangs.

[fallow wasp]

The heavy assault rifle also sounds good to me

Very chunky sounding bullets

[crystal oriole]

Idk

Something about emptying an entire clip into a Tank is pretty satsifying ngl

[jolly perch]

so

are any alarms different?

[mellow creek]

ok they have to add the new enemies into alt rds

lol

its so ez

[calm coral]

ok that was lame

[mellow creek]

nothing is different lmao

[calm coral]

I did the new rundown in under 3 hours

why tf it so easy

[mellow creek]

imagine doing it w/o stamina and walking sleepers

[calm coral]

yeah

tf

[jolly perch]

“where the past is reborn with sharper teeth and tougher challenges”

[atomic escarp]

man just said pistol and carbine are the same weapons

[half hornet]

In terms of how they operate - basically yes. Close-to-mid range semi auto (burst fire is just quirky semi) that rewards precision, but can be spammed if in a pinch. The rest is just aesthetics and the prefference of putting all the punch into a single bullet or spreading it across smaller ones.

Especially in carbine's case which just goes "BRT".
For example Titanfall's Hemlok or L4D2's SCAR (both of which go "RA-TA-TAT" instead) had notably longer bursts, so you had to lead the target in order to get the full DPS out of your gun.
The latter, of course, being deeply impractical IRL, but in games it creates for an interesting weapon to play around. Unfortunately i haven't seen anything of that sort in GTFO so far. All the burst weapons just go BRT, making them a quirky semis with multishot for shits and giggles.

Now if HAR had 3-round burst, but with same fire rate it has now - now that would be a very interesting weapon.

[wary olive]

@broken scarab no shotgun sway bug fix? I'm so sad

[last gust]

I'm assuming it's shotgun sway feature at this point

😭

[wary olive]

I even pointed out the mod that fixed it to calle, called ShotgunCenterFire by Untilted

😭

[mossy marsh]

get 10CC'd

[ocean oar]

love the Arbalist

wondered why it was removed in the first place

[tacit crest]

i didnt know counting as deceased on the results screen didnt unlock the next levels in alt-r1

[half hornet]

It should

The victory progress just loads slowly

I got my apparel like 5 minutes after beating the level

I think their server is melting.

[tacit crest]

well i just shot my friend to death in a1 and he didnt get a clear

but i did

[hard cape]

r 1 is not that hard as i imagined

only took me 4 hours and it's done

[mossy marsh]

ya, that's R1 for ya

[hard cape]

yeah my friends say rundowns before r6 were harder

clearly they were lying

[boreal tendon]

2, 4 and 5 were

[hard cape]

we'll see

[wary fractal]

yea you will

[boreal tendon]

also, you're playing R1 but with busted tools/weapons

[errant vigil]

Original R1 MG moment

[boreal tendon]

i'll take hel revo / snipersentry over mg anyday

[errant vigil]

4x damage shotgun sentry

[nocturne flax]

Slow as fuck enemies

This is so sad can we nerf carabine to its previous state

[errant vigil]

No it was bad

SMG users are coping now

[tough totem]

bullpup is where it's at

[wary olive]

🐌

[nocturne flax]

This is so sad can we buff carabine mag size again

[tough totem]

just reload better, duh

muscle memory eill kick in eventually

[nocturne flax]

All my favorite loadouts are in this rundowns and i love it
Dmr cs
Bp cs

I just need rifle so i can meme on a silly friend of meme and we good

[tough totem]

hel rifle and bullpup will carry me

[crystal oriole]

I miss R3 rifle.

Unironically.

I know it didn't OSHS

but dammit that gun felt so nice to use.

[candid pelican]

Is there any new lore in this alt or is it just practically a port?

[mortal granite]

some lore

not that much

[candid pelican]

is it just terminal logs or is there like voice lines like in R7?

[mortal granite]

terminal logs

text and 1? audio log

[candid pelican]

could you tell me what missions are they on?

[hexed vapor]

B1, B2, C2, D1

[candid pelican]

thanks

[crystal oriole]

They should've thrown one into the A1 resource zone tbh.

You don't really go into there otherwise

[obtuse surge]

cross rundown matchmaking pls

dont kill it even more

let me queue for all of them

[dire pelican]

does any one know how to unlock alt r2?

i finish alt r1

[mossy marsh]

we wait

[dire pelican]

hopefully unlock next week

[vernal escarp]

this made my day

[hollow nymph]

Now we wait a few years for alt R2

[brisk wraith]

It takes like... at least 9 months

[kind swan]

So is Alt Rnd1 basically Rundown 1 but with more weapons than it did initially?

[jolly perch]

Yeah, plus new layouts

[kind swan]

layouts?

[jolly perch]

yeah like

[kind swan]

as in tileset?

[jolly perch]

a lot of the expeditions look different than the original one

yeah

other than that it is basically just r1

[kind swan]

ngl I am bothered by that weapons that weren't released yet (at the time of Rundown 1) are in alt R1

but eh. it is what it is

[paper harness]

would've liked it if the levels were a bit harder

these level designs would have been good

if it was still 2018

[hard cape]

There are so many areas in R1 that are optional and do not serve any purpose. ig they are loot rooms?

[paper harness]

yes

6 months for this

[hard cape]

i wish they could add new enemies in old rundown. And those loot area could be used for secondary/overload

I was little disappointed by r7 but alt r1 makes me want to play R7 more

Except r7d1 cuz I hate explain how that terminal works with my 50 ish frame rate

[mortal portal]

Just wait until they release r4 and R5

I wonder how much chaos those two Alt rundowns will cause in the steam forums

[paper harness]

people having to play R4C2 instead of long kiting it every 12 seconds

can't wait to get to play r4 remake in 2027

[mortal portal]

Can't wait to play R5 in 2030

R8 in 3000

[last gust]

Man, the hel rifle buffs are sure going to be something

[hard cape]

are they planning on releasing new rundowns this december?

[abstract inlet]

How does r1d1 compare to the rest of the rundown? Did every other mission first try and blind

Curious if it's a massive difficulty spike

[hard cape]

everything is anticipated

not even a sweat

[mortal portal]

R1 is not that hard, actually easier than R7

Probably the best rundown for beginners

[hard cape]

just don't open those unnecessary doors and you are good. Opening optional doors will only waste time

[abstract inlet]

R6 is easily the best for new players imo

Unless you're just talking about the available rundowns

[daring pilot]

uhhh we just cleared D1 and we would've died without resupply zones

[mortal portal]

I mean, R1 basically gives you all the basics you need

R1 is more like for people who are brand new to the game. R6 for those who have played before but don't have much experience with it.

Imo

[abstract inlet]

R6 does the same, but just with more

Like destination alpha

[hard cape]

can't wait to play r6c3 again. finished it 50+ times

[abstract inlet]

Audio logs, more enemy types, etc

[abstract inlet]

R6c1*

Seems to be tradition that the c1 of every rundown is an absolute banger

From someone who's only played r1, 6, and 7 at least

[mortal portal]

I'll be the first one to introduce you to R5C1 when it comes out

Also R4C1 Ex if you like uplinks

Hope you enjoy those juicy 12 uplinks

[hard cape]

R5 is different story. Imagine moms in A level

[mortal portal]

That was pretty funny imo.

I mean, it's overload, they can do whatever they want there imo

Since most new players at that time didn't really care about optional sectors.

R4A2 had an error alarm on overload and a room in Extreme with a couple of scouts and a huge cluster of sleepers, if the error wave spawns inside, you're doomed

R3 had a reactor in A tier

[obtuse cedar]

it's ok guys. R1A1 is harder then R7A1. no checkpoints and it has scouts in it 🙂

[jolly perch]

i can see them releasing r2 in december

like on december 9th we'll get a video with the date announcement (hopefully they dont randomly drop r2)

given r1 is just a copy and paste, i dont see why r2 would take that long to release

[daring pilot]

I mean I think it might be faster actually, they said 6 days ago that R1 would drop in a couple of weeks

[burnt goblet]

Damn its so easy now

i remember back in the day, R1D1 was rough

[paper harness]

current guns are way too overpowered to be put into R1 without enemy adjustments

[burnt goblet]

Yeah

way too strong

[paper harness]

looks like they literally just copy pasted enemy spawns as well without thinking about how much the meta has changed

[burnt goblet]

you dont even need turret/biotracker for the reactor shutdown, just run thermals and youre good

[paper harness]

exactly

[burnt goblet]

even then its like 2 waves

[paper harness]

and these are post-nerf shadows

so they're legit so slow and bio ping lasts a year on them

compared to pre-nerf shadows

[burnt goblet]

Ye

its nostalgic, but easy

Cant wait to go through r2E1 again

[paper harness]

wish they'd put some thought into balance and design of levels

don't think there's a level you can't clear first try here

[gritty nacelle]

so what's different this time around ? Other then yellow glowsticks everything feels the way I remember, maybe I have just totally forgotten what it was like back then

[paper harness]

pretty much just new weapons and stamina system

[bleak canopy]

Also it is a bit more polished with artifacts placed in the levels and very slight layout changes. I think A1 and B2 has single rooms that have been altered slightly and room B or C in the first zone in C1 is different.

[paper harness]

the layout changes are very slight

[errant olive]

There are some slight differences in the levels

[paper harness]

bar some levels

[errant olive]

but unless you're a purist they don't mean anything

[crystal oriole]

Wait, are there actually yellow glowsticks?

[bleak canopy]

I honestly don't mind this update. Gave me and my friends some nostalgia and fun tonight.

I am pretty sure B2 is bugged though since I don't remember all the sleeping enemies being all shooters.

[crystal oriole]

No, B2 is correct.

It was only shooters

Except for alarm waves/scout waves

[bleak canopy]

Ah alright, my memory is fuzzy on it since it has been almost 3 years since I last played it lol

[crystal oriole]

Funnily enough, not something I noticed until after R1 was gone...

The pistol 2 taps them if you hit the head twice, though, so I can't wait to bring one in to get my revenge

:>

[burnt goblet]

Only change i noticed was that they threw hybrids in here

[paper harness]

only for C1 I think

[bleak canopy]

Yeah I noticed them in C1

[gritty nacelle]

Yessir they pretty clean ngl

[burnt goblet]

Dunno why they didnt throw in more enemies

putting a tank or 2 in d1 would of been nice

[paper harness]

because it wouldn't be lore accurate XDDDDDD

[crystal oriole]

Based.

I thought it was a prank

[crystal oriole]

R2E1 should have the P-mom on extract for extra funny

[bleak canopy]

Though I personally never saw them. I used my old C1 strat where you set up the defense point at the very front. First wave was difficult but next 7 were easy since it was a meat grinder for the rest of my team while I stayed back to ferry resources and put codes into the reactor.

[crystal oriole]

It's so weird thinking back on how my group of 4 could barely hold OG C1 waves

and now that amount is just "Oh, this many? Bet. Easy wave."

[burnt goblet]

c1 reactor was rough back in the day

[paper harness]

because you didn't have weapons as broken as today

[burnt goblet]

yup

[crystal oriole]

Idk, that machine gun was pretty good back in the day

[burnt goblet]

i mean i did use r1 weapons mostly

[crystal oriole]

2-3 shot for an enemy

[burnt goblet]

favorite thing though is they brought back the combat shotgun

and buffed it

[mellow creek]

yea

i think devs schould scrap earlier rd

[crystal oriole]

I could not stand old combat shotgun

[mellow creek]

if nothing has change

[crystal oriole]

Now it feels kinda good

except I hate shotguns as a whole so I'm not gonna use it

[mellow creek]

theres no replayability in them

[burnt goblet]

bro it was broken back then

[mellow creek]

lol

[paper harness]

legit if they bothered to do any work

and actually updated the levels

put in optionals

[mellow creek]

yea

kinda lazy to me

[crystal oriole]

Perhaps...but my hatred of shotguns trumped that of my willingness to take it

[burnt goblet]

understandable

[crystal oriole]

The only exception to this rule of mine

[burnt goblet]

but yeah, only 6 levels, if youre even half good you can beat r1 in one setting

[crystal oriole]

has been the Choke Mod

[mellow creek]

beat everything in 3hrs

even with a newbie

lol

[crystal oriole]

because of how stupid accurate it is even from a distance

lol

[mellow creek]

this isnt rightt

[burnt goblet]

8 but we were being slow and trying to look for new stuff

[crystal oriole]

I am very saddened that there's not going to be optional objectives added

to R1-3

I really was hoping on them spicing it up, so it was new to both newer and OG players.

[mellow creek]

yea

same

[paper harness]

a modder legit has already done the rundown 1-5 remakes

[mellow creek]

was hoping at least some surprises in the later stage

but damn........................

[burnt goblet]

seems that they are only doing this to appease the collection of people that hate the rundown system

[mellow creek]

i would rather play a mod

than alt rd

[crystal oriole]

okay but did they add or

[mellow creek]

nope

even this alt rd doesnt even have pe

and d1 is a joke u can literally go straight to reactor and shut it down in 15mins

[paper harness]

it has different enemies though

[crystal oriole]

At least we're getting them back ig.

[burnt goblet]

its fun to play through them again for old times sake, but they need to add shit to make it better instead of copy-pasting

[crystal oriole]

this tho

[mellow creek]

yea........ only diffrence is hybrids that sometime spawns

[burnt goblet]

Hybrids, thats it

[crystal oriole]

Oh no, a hybrid!

sniper shot

anyway

[paper harness]

not talking about the alt r1

the modded version

[burnt goblet]

oh no, more fodder enemies!

[paper harness]

I know alt r1 is shit lmao

[mellow creek]

modded version is cool lmao