gtfo-spoiler-chat

[fringe surge]

Seeing him die to modded weapons is really funny

[alpine spindle]

could just cfoam and mine 3 doors 😂

[fringe surge]

10 million damage

Iek

[alpine spindle]

i ran b2 secondary with 2 sniper sentries, mines, and bio

that worked out fine as well

[fringe surge]

I think I began using the sniper sentry in c3

[fresh bronze]

and kill the fun on a alarm door, ill pass

[fringe surge]

Before that it was all burst

Even in d1 it was one burst one sniper

[fresh bronze]

if a level is that easy there aint any reason to actively make it easier

[strange junco]

i remember having a team with 2 new guys on b2

[alpine spindle]

it's not really about making it easy

[strange junco]

they fucked up stealth in every room in sec we decided to just not do it

[alpine spindle]

sometimes its about making it faster

[strange junco]

for the sake of saving time

[alpine spindle]

speedruns

[fresh bronze]

altho man i remember doing b2 sec without bio mines or cfoam as a fucking joke

that was fun as shit

[fresh bronze]

literally could not care less for playing fast

[fringe surge]

Honestly I'm going to slap a mine on every single alarm door because sometimes I dont want to shoot people

Sometimes I want to see sleepers blow up

[strange junco]

i had to kite in the fog in b2 because they fucked up stealth in every b2 sec room

😭

[fringe surge]

What the fuck was your lobby

[strange junco]

2 newbies

[alpine spindle]

makes sense

[fringe surge]

I mean me and the vois were pretty bad when we began playing

But not that bad

[fresh bronze]

man i almost never run cfoam it always feels unnecessary

[strange junco]

yea the other experienced guy got smacked in the face the second they woke up the giants

[fringe surge]

Mmm

[strange junco]

so it was only me kiting

[fresh bronze]

usually you get 2 cfoam grenades every map atleast

kills the point of cfoam launcher

[fringe surge]

C-foam is real fucking handy so someone on the team is almost always running it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[alpine spindle]

you're more of the shoot it up type of guy to me

[fresh bronze]

i know some people like it for scouts

[strange junco]

cfoam grenade feels like a waste considering they have 20 cfoam blobs

[fresh bronze]

but scouts aint hard to deal with

[alpine spindle]

it's really what my mood is

if i wanna shoot more let's not bring cfoam

[fringe surge]

Do you need to buy time while looting? C-foam
Scouts? C-foam
Holding a wave? C-foam

[alpine spindle]

if you wanna get a faster completion, bring cfoam

etc

[strange junco]

most of the time i bring 2 sentries 1 bio 1 mine

[fresh bronze]

ive found mines to almost always be better

[fringe surge]

I've brought c-foam alot for C2 pe

[strange junco]

the only expedition that i ran cfoam was b2 really

[fresh bronze]

if you can kill scouts with melee consistantly then cfoam is worthless

[fringe surge]

Noo...

[fresh bronze]

since there will almost always be grenades

[strange junco]

maybe some other levels too for the sake of memeing

[fringe surge]

I do not see myself ever being able to finish r6 d2 extreme through the cluster+error charger alarm sequence without cfoam

And shit

It's a great tool

In most cases

[fresh bronze]

the last level i ran cfoam was b1 kek

tried it on d1 realized it was shit and swapped it out for mines

[fringe surge]

Mines get absolutely fucked if they only hit a single target or a giant decides to eat 3 of them

And I always run mines

Or mostly

[strange junco]

i run tools depending on what the rest of the team runs

[fringe surge]

^

[strange junco]

i just fill the void

[fresh bronze]

mines are great for blood doors and doors in general

[fringe surge]

That do be the role

[alpine spindle]

hel shotgun 🤡

[strange junco]

like, if you need bio, ill run bio, if you need mines, ill run mines

[alpine spindle]

no need for mines

😂

[fringe surge]

Hel shotgun is great

[strange junco]

if you need neither ill run sentry all the time

[fringe surge]

I love that weapon

[alpine spindle]

run mineless on d2 and run hel shotgun

it's fun

[fringe surge]

Holding m1 and stunning e1s 4th reactor wave was stupid

[fresh bronze]

kek imagine

[fringe surge]

The entire wave just staggered

[fresh bronze]

ill pass

[strange junco]

i tried d2 with hel shotgun and no mines

[fresh bronze]

the day when the game stops giving me grenades ill consider cfoam

[strange junco]

shits fun

just watching a crowd staggering

[fresh bronze]

as of now its only useful if your shit with scouts

[alpine spindle]

yes it is

[fringe surge]

Ar and sniper
Ar and lmg

Classic loadouts

[fresh bronze]

or in a pub lobby because from what i hear no one in pub lobbies can hit scouts

[alpine spindle]

for this entire rundown i've almost always ran PDW as my main

[fringe surge]

Bring back my burst rifle pls

[strange junco]

i love my teamkill loadouts

[fringe surge]

Pdw is an amazing gun

[strange junco]

hel rev and any high damage special

[fringe surge]

But for some reason I was really drawn to the ar

I remember disliking how middling it was in r5 and r6

But now

[fresh bronze]

pdw and choke mod or machinegun is my usual setup

[fringe surge]

It's my favourite primary auto weapon

[fresh bronze]

that or carbine and precision rifle/choke mod

[strange junco]

i run pdw during early r7

then i just decided to stop being dependent on thermals

[fringe surge]

Myes

[fresh bronze]

depends on if im feeling a single shot weapon or not

[strange junco]

so either ar, hel rev, hel shotgun

[fringe surge]

Sure it has a higher dmg output than the SMG
Which has a great dmg output

But nah
Ar gang

Gotta follow in fireblades footsteps
Ar and lmg

[strange junco]

ar running drum mags while having only 30 bullets

😭

[fringe surge]

10 chambers moment

[fresh bronze]

ive found machine gun and choke mod are fucked for killing giants

[strange junco]

then theres har running a straight mag while 40 bullets

😭😭

[wary olive]

Even without thermals, PDW hip fire + stagger potential + reload speed with animation cancel make it really strong

[fresh bronze]

other than that i dont really care to much for the other special

[fresh bronze]

yeah pretty much

[fringe surge]

Oh the guns fantastic
I just have a personal preference for the ar

Dunno why

[fresh bronze]

this for me but with carbine

[fringe surge]

Carbine is quite nice

[strange junco]

pdws great and all but i felt like i was being over reliant on it

[robust marsh]

normal shotty is a blast

[fresh bronze]

really love burst fire

[tame cloak]

PDW, so satisfying, I agree I should part with the thermal abuse too tho

[fringe surge]

How 2 delete mother simulator

[robust marsh]

how to delete everything simulator

[wary olive]

Yeah just saying that not using the PDW because you don't want to be dependent on thermals, the thermals aren't even the main part that make it good

[fringe surge]

Do you see a mother?
No you fucking dont

[fresh bronze]

it just kinda dont compare to the choke mod sadly tho

[fringe surge]

Loads 1 shell
Gets 2 in the chambers
Stonks

[strange junco]

ive been sleeping on regular shotgun for the entire rundown

[robust marsh]

ppl say its not good againts giants but if you have just even a little bit of balls you flank that mf and 2 shot him

[fringe surge]

^

[strange junco]

i want to try it but like theres only me running crowd control mg

[fringe surge]

Bruh

[strange junco]

the rest just uses concentrated damage specials

[robust marsh]

shotgun is also a crowd control tbh

[fresh bronze]

well i usually melee giants if im getting that close lmfao

[strange junco]

so i have no options on specials

[robust marsh]

it just gets a bad rap cause its too basic

[fringe surge]

Mfw everytime I hip fired in a cluster only 1 sleeper fied

[robust marsh]

yes but if your smart in some areas on an alarm you don't do that

[strange junco]

yea i can control the mg recoil

i can make it a literal laser beam

[fresh bronze]

its chokemod with higher ammo cap and shorter range is basically how i see it

[fringe surge]

I cant control the horizontal recoil
But the vertical is simple enough

[robust marsh]

it does more damage

[fringe surge]

So it's just becomes a wider laser beam

[robust marsh]

if you get good with it

[wary olive]

Pump Shotgun can also be a bit more unforgiving, the range at which you use it at if you miss shots normally it means you're getting licked in exchange

[fringe surge]

Better ammo economy too right ?

[fresh bronze]

the damage is the same according to wiki

basically the same

[robust marsh]

also one shots chargers at a certain range making it the best weapon for B3 overload

[alpine spindle]

i mean high cal does the same

[robust marsh]

the pellets i think are diff

[alpine spindle]

🤡

[tame cloak]

HCP

[robust marsh]

high cal is if you are board and don't know what to do

[fringe surge]

High cal was great this rundown
But man did I begin to hate damage fall off

Sometimes I wanna shoot stuff from far away with my special

[fresh bronze]

metaslave

[fringe surge]

B r u h

Weapon is weapon

Use whatever

[robust marsh]

tbh none of the weapons are good for me cause i play modded alot

[fresh bronze]

the damage comes out to basically a even 30 its preference in the end

[robust marsh]

making it so all the weapons in main game are basic

with no twists

[fringe surge]

Carry me through ancestor

R2 e1 is dumb

[robust marsh]

ancestor is just a remake of older rundowns i don't really like it

[fresh bronze]

i dont mind the lower ammo capacity of chokemod but love the longer range

[strange junco]

too lazy to fix launch error for modded

[robust marsh]

but i will play redemption with you

[fringe surge]

I will when I have more time

[robust marsh]

if you want to know how hard it is... well we believe the devs can't get past the first 10 minutes

on A1

[alpine spindle]

gamecon stats

[fringe surge]

If it matters I did A1 for solo trials,solo

[robust marsh]

it got fixed

just make a new profile

[alpine spindle]

1% of people beating A1 or something?

like... what

[fringe surge]

Now my question is

Are the devs good at gtfo

[robust marsh]

in redemption no cause ppl that play modded are good at the game most on mastery level

[alpine spindle]

no they aren't gamers

they are devs

[fringe surge]

welp fuck
I'm not anywhere close
I've only finished r6 and r7 and half of r5

[robust marsh]

no

[fresh bronze]

ima have to hard pass on anything like that

[robust marsh]

have you watched any dev streams

[fringe surge]

Nope

[robust marsh]

again devs*

[fringe surge]

But I would imagine if they make the levels they must have cleared them before

[robust marsh]

you subtonix i say you can beat it first try with a team

[fringe surge]

I'm not that gud to play redemption yet

[robust marsh]

haha thats where you are wrong kiddo

[fresh bronze]

zomboid will likely be the last extremely difficult game i play

[robust marsh]

the devs are extremely bad at there own game

[alpine spindle]

just have D4RKEVA go to gamescon and solo A1 in 8 minutes

[fringe surge]

I would like to experience r4 e1
Or whatever is like it
Without having to deal with stamina

[robust marsh]

thats why they have such a bad time balancing it for the playerbase

[fresh bronze]

i mean clearly if they cant get far enough to find the major bugs in the maps

[alpine spindle]

well you also have to know that gaming skill vs dev skill are different

hence why games are reviewed by gamers

not devs

creating a game is truly difficult

code ain't easy

[robust marsh]

at this point i don't care really cause if i do i get a big headache

[fresh bronze]

bro i own 3 shooter games on steam exluding gtfo. Borderlands 2, FO4 and FONV

even i dont struggle with the shooting in this game

[robust marsh]

its just not worth talking about gtfo devs other than they are bad at making a game

[fresh bronze]

how bad can they be

[robust marsh]

very very bad

They struggled heavily in R5A1

[alpine spindle]

again, gaming skill vs development is completely different

doesn't correlate

typing code and rendering frames doesnt equate to fast hand movement

[robust marsh]

i would agree but there development skills are also vack

[alpine spindle]

now that's different

[robust marsh]

to a very painfull point

[alpine spindle]

if we are purely commenting on their dev-ing skills

[fresh bronze]

i have done both, and if you dont at the least have a interest enough to play games enough to be decent at them then you will really struggle making them

but then again they are struggling

so who am i to say

[robust marsh]

don't go into it too much

you will only hurt yourself

[fresh bronze]

i am a computer science major ill be fine

[alpine spindle]

i doubt you've made a large scale game

it's more than just code, though code is a big aspect

[fresh bronze]

the hard part about making a game isnt the code at all

but if you cant code you cant make a game no matter how good you are at anything else

[robust marsh]

enlighten me please i would love to have my mind changed that 10 chambers are doing there best

[alpine spindle]

i never said 10 chambers are doing their best

i'm simply stating that devs sucking at their own game isn't justifiable to be compared to what they do

they aren't gamers

hell, they probably hired gamers to test their game

[fresh bronze]

it is justifiable

you need game sense to make a game

otherwise it ends up a unbalanced mess

[alpine spindle]

you can easily obtain that without playing games on a regular basis

[fresh bronze]

you wont have very good game sense in that case

[robust marsh]

it is justifiable unless you don't care about your game

[alpine spindle]

it's not all about skill to have sense

[robust marsh]

you need to play your game to see if it has the vision you intended for it

[fresh bronze]

game sense correlates to skill

for me the only thing it took for me to get good at gtfo beyond a pc upgrade was understanding the maps and enemies

and i dont play first person games at all

[robust marsh]

the devs don't play there game so they aren't good at there own game and that means they won't add things or fix things that the community wants

thats how it works!

for example! ultrakill

you could punch the shotgun shell alright

the dev played the game

and found this bug

[alpine spindle]

even if devs don't have game sense, you outsource that to external factors to provide you the insight

hence why gamers are sometimes hired to review a game

and give feedback

you can create a plot, code a game, render it

[fresh bronze]

i feel the best example of a dev doing well is risk of rain 2, the dlc had a few unbalanced things when it dropped but it was fixed in a week or two and anything the devs who where good at the game felt was a fair feature that the community disliked ended up staying

[robust marsh]

but a dev should not just go off gamers feedbacks

[alpine spindle]

ofc not

[fresh bronze]

a few months later when players improved those features the devs didnt change ended up being liked

[robust marsh]

again the devs played and said its fair

the GTFO devs don't know whats fair and whats not

[fresh bronze]

yeah a lot of people thought being one shotted by a certain elite type was unfair, but once you learned to dodge the new enemies it was actually balanced as shit because the items you got from those elites where great

[robust marsh]

they think E1 is fair but E1 is just a clusterfuck of chores

[alpine spindle]

e1 is dumb

[robust marsh]

yes its dumb cause the devs never played it

[fresh bronze]

i fucking hated that elite type until i put 100 or so hours into the dlc

then i actually really enjoyed it

[robust marsh]

they just said oh lets give them a E1 level they like it

without even testing it

[fresh bronze]

because watching other players get one shotted from not watching there own ass was funny as shit

[alpine spindle]

elite type was already in base game

dlc only added new survivor, enemy type, and environments

[fresh bronze]

i didnt specify because it was uneccesary for a gtfo chat

[alpine spindle]

no?

[robust marsh]

the new enemy had a elite form did it not?

[alpine spindle]

yea but that's just an extension

of base

[fresh bronze]

new void elites where completely broken because the debuff they applied

[alpine spindle]

since base game already had it

ehh

[fresh bronze]

often a enemy at stage 5 would literally hit you for all your hp then that debuff would finish you before you got 1 shot protection back

combine that with a lot of new enemy types most players where unfamiliar with and suddenly there is a huge difficulty gap due to a learning curb

[alpine spindle]

when i first got it i didn't really find the learning curb to be steep at all

actually was just quite similar, you just had to learn new enemy attacks and stuff

movement

etc.

for me anyways

that's for dlc

not base game

[fresh bronze]

either didnt play enough or just didnt get it when it first dropped

at the time fire debuff lasted over 30 seconds because it was just poorly balanced

and the void debuff did way more

so most enemies where one shots by stage 4

balances dropped like 2 weeks later

only void remained completely fucking unfair to new players

[alpine spindle]

wait just to make sure we talking about dlc right?

i'm not fucking confusing myself?

[fresh bronze]

thats how i feel development should be handled, devs should know what things are balanced and what things where not

yes

[alpine spindle]

then i have no idea what you experienced

[fresh bronze]

the dlc had a ton of changes to the base game aswell

[alpine spindle]

cause i got through it just fine

and i bought the dlc the moment it came out

so idk

always was a sucker for ror2

[fresh bronze]

you prob had enough experience that it wasnt a big deal

i was getting good runs after about 10 - 15 hours, but most newer players struggled a lot

[alpine spindle]

i would imagine so, they wouldn't have even had artifacts yet

they missed entirety on new releases and updates

[fresh bronze]

i only played glass

other artifacts where either to easy or just not fun

[alpine spindle]

well i meant like they would have to go through getting them all

if you didn't have them already before dlc dropped

if you played for a long time before then it wouldnt be hard

it was fun

[fresh bronze]

save file editors existed

[alpine spindle]

true

[fresh bronze]

regardless this is disgustingly off topic

[alpine spindle]

but a newbie that dropped in wouldn't know dogshit

[fresh bronze]

and its 3am for me

[alpine spindle]

sleep dude

lmao

[fresh bronze]

i knew a few people who had like 30 hours in base game predlc who couldnt get past stage 5 for another 30-40 hours of gameplay

i fucking loved how the devs basically just said the whole ass community had a skill issue

[alpine spindle]

they were straightfaced as hell when they watched WR speedrun

they said they were surprised and stuff and they would do the exact same thing

lmao the confidence and skill

god-tier devs right there

they could prob pull it off too

[fresh bronze]

yeah tbf it is honestly unfair to compare any devs to ror2 devs

other than maybe relogic

[alpine spindle]

ye

[strange junco]

[tame cloak]

doing the A1 escape solo hitless

[real moss]

Still stuck on EVAL 😭

[tame cloak]

tbh I had good RNG

[fallow wasp]

If you can beat a level solo hitless you are to be legally classified as a creature

Not exactly a human but more civil than an animal

[tame cloak]

nah it wasn't fully hitless, but the escape was

[bold widget]

challenge accepted

choose my loadout

[fallow wasp]

Pistol revolver with bio and spear

My personal favourite loadout

Pistol or bull pup honestly are my favourites this rundown

[bold widget]

alright starting with A1 once i am home

[fallow wasp]

Godspeed

[bold widget]

ok maybe not. got a bit of a headache now but i will see once i am home if either today or tomorrow

[sullen hemlock]

C2 respawned us at first checkpoint with glitched chargers and we just skipped the other half of the mission v.v

[plucky breach]

What’s the overload obj for c2

And what’s the secondary

[strange junco]

secondary is the continuation of main
overload is collecting something

[obtuse scaffold]

Coward

[bold widget]

[kind swan]

More Testosterone canisters iirc. (GLP Pheromones not Testosterone but funny)

Or Creatine. Our Prisoners need gains

[burnt goblet]

Inject the prisoners with so many drugs and steroids, and THEY become the tanks

[atomic escarp]

in A1, when u type in the cmd to enable checkpoint

how do u type it

recycle group 7a42

ive tried every possible combination

😭😭😭😭

recycle_group_7a42

[daring pilot]

What zone are you in?

[dreamy bramble]

^ + type commands on the terminal

[atomic escarp]

in the zone leading to 49

[daring pilot]

There should be an objective to go to zone 44 and input the command

When you’re there, you can use COMMANDS to list all commands on the terminal

[bold widget]

@fallow wasp challenge completed

[fallow wasp]

Good

Now do b1

I don’t actually know if any level besides a1 is possible solo hitless

[bold widget]

for b1 I'd have to bring a specific loadout

bridge scan will be the hardest part

[obtuse surge]

are u sure

B1 is full of blind spots and they aren't at the bridge scan

crawlers that can hide under leaves

an alarm where you get spawns from 2 sides while there's lots of dark spots where you won't see a shooter until it starts firing

[bold widget]

id have to see. the problem with bridge is having to long kite and getting trough them since they spawn in the zone right as you pull the door and some random shooter getting the shot off

[obtuse surge]

kiting?!

[tough totem]

I love kiting

[bold widget]

the forbidden word!

how could i

[obtuse cedar]

"kiting is dead"

🙂

[tough totem]

completely false statement

[obtuse cedar]

It just took an entire rundown for people to find out when we said it was still there when r6 dropped

They still haven't fully understand how nothing has changed

[hexed vapor]

They succeeded in removing it from PuGs.

But that might not last.

(in addition to stamina just kind of sucking).

And tbh, a bigger factor in removing kiting is probably an influx of new players, not just stamina.

[tough totem]

I kite in pubs

specifically shadow class X on D1 but kiting nonetheless

[hexed vapor]

Yeah, but shadows.

[tough totem]

yeah but a lot of more current instances of kitting I've seen is slower enemies like giants, shooters, and large flyers

I don't look into more current gtfo that much but those are fairly easy enemies to kite for having a slow movement speed

[mossy marsh]

when kiting 2??

[bold widget]

mfs be like kiting is bad but grind the shit out of doom eternal

[errant vigil]

If you’re kiting in doom eternal you’re doing it wrong

[reef talon]

Isn't doom eternal about chain killing more than kiting

[half hornet]

Haven't played ethernal yet, but general doom gameplay is sidestep dodging while closing the distance to get that execution

[tame cloak]

if an enemy gets close then far more than 2 times in DE then you're definitely doing something wrong

[hoary musk]

The little I've played of high difficulty Doom Eternal is mostly kiting. Fodder enemies take like 40 AR shots so you can't really face anything head on

[tame cloak]

most fodder die in 1 sticky bomb or 2-3 well placed headshot with the AR, movement is key ofc and you do need kiting in the early game until you unlock better things

but as soon as you get AR sniper scope you're already golden

(also Difficulty doesn't change enemy health values)

[turbid cliff]

Doom eternal is spam weapon switch and abuse every weakpoint while always spending your dashes and environmental movement stuff

I don't know if i would call it kiting but you do never stop moving

But it's not like the goal is to get all enemies behind you or something

[tame cloak]

The goal is that if something attempts to approach you it's lifespan is proportional to how close they are to you

I should update my game and play through again, been a while

[hexed vapor]

Dude, that #gtfo-media guy.

He's the archetype.

These people I meet.

Where they join, maybe even ask for a specific level, and then when I ask them to leave they want to stop and argue with me.

Like, bro, the world doesn't revolve around you, please fuck off.

[strange junco]

internet

☕

[gray steeple]

I see that often

What can one do?

[hexed vapor]

Not much, if you ignore them they eventually give up.

If you don't mind their presence too much, you can also troll.

Try to get them to attempt D2 or E1.

They'll often-times be new players.

[gray steeple]

I still remind one my my friends I met in GTFO that I met them due to two asshole players

[strange junco]

• mutes them
• starts saying "WHAT??"

[gray steeple]

They started off guns blazing and pissed off everything

[strange junco]

"WHAT??? I CANT HEAR YOU"

"SPEAK LOUDER"

[gray steeple]

when we died, they blamed us and left the game

[hexed vapor]

I used to have a form

we'd send people

[gray steeple]

I did literally nothing

[hexed vapor]

they'd have to fill it out to be considered for a match

and then we'd do a job interview

[gray steeple]

damn

I’m much more relaxed when it comes to players

I can put up with a lot of failure

[hexed vapor]

It's not specifically who they are as players

it's how they're interacting with the platform

random joining, being stubborn and argumentative about not being let in when they were never invited in the first place, etc.

[gray steeple]

I mean that’s understandable

[hexed vapor]

Being dogshit at the game is, like, normal, and a weird thing to be mad about.

[gray steeple]

I still don’t mind randoms much

Behaviour is the only thing I’ll be concerned about

nobody needs someone acting up in the lobby

[strange junco]

gonna act up

[gray steeple]

the ones that come in and try to play leader when they are complete strangers to me tho

I played bait when first meeting a snatcher

[tame cloak]

tbh I wouldn't mind taking the form

[hexed vapor]

Ngl, properly social people can spin it and just roll with it.

Had a guy actually chillin' on R5E1.

Getting carried, but run didn't actually crash and burn immediately.

Almost got the cell.

Although that's a bit both social skills and being non-braindead in mission and picking up what had to be done fast enough.

[tame cloak]

checking Steam Forums is always an experience omg

[hexed vapor]

ikr?

It's every game, too.

[tame cloak]

I guess it was kinda the same for Heroes of Hammerwatch back when i was a Discord mod there, but tbh the game had crashing/disconnecting issues that killed runs and complains were very understandable

We had one funny type of complaint tho, which was that the game did not have local split screen coop compared to older games
People kept complaining that they can't afford to pay multiple copies or even multiple machines to play on, which is valid. But I spent a lot of time thinking about it and my simple answer is "The game does not fit in a split screen context, the UX would be absolute trash and you wouldn't enjoy it"

[real moss]

Wait till I make a post there 😅

[strange junco]

make a really controversial post in steam forums

that goes against everything the casuals wanted

watch the chaos unfold

[tame cloak]

"why is there only one E tier? Why so much B"

[strange junco]

lol

[candid dragon]

too much 🅱️

[fossil gulch]

So. putting the 2 cells into the generator cluster in C2 softlocks you if you didnt go into zone 150?

[strange junco]

what do you mean

[fossil gulch]

In c2. the first and second cell you get

we ran back to the gen cluster and put both in

because it said putting 2 in stops the alarm

but now we are softlocked because the bulkhead key is in 150

and there is a cell in 150

[strange junco]

thats only if you want to do overload

[fossil gulch]

how do we progress then?

there's no where to go

[strange junco]

you can still do main just fine

there are still 2 other doors in the generator cluster room

one for 3/4 and the other for 5/6

bulkhead key is just there to open overload door in cell 3/4 section which isnt required to finish main

[fossil gulch]

Ahhh okay. I get it now

We had a glitch. where it was saying to go to zone 148 for ventilation sequence even though it was on the other side of an un accessable door

Thank you for the help

[strange junco]

i dont even remember zone numbers

[fossil gulch]

basically the objective thing on the left just said start the vent sequence in a zone we couldnt even get to

:)

that was a fun 40 minutes of running around

thank you for the quick response so it wasnt an hour

[hexed vapor]

Isn't 148 just the location of the first vent sequence?

Second technically

[real moss]

They could still use a cell from set 3/4 or 5/6 to open 150 and do the ovl but it's gon be a lot of fog

[strange junco]

you could do overload at 5/6 if you can bear with 100% fog

like entirety of it from getting cell in 150

[tame cloak]

@fresh bronze yo remember when you told us about the charger scout in melee two hits ? got a similar thing happen to me yesterday on E1
went behind one to HCP him, did my movement kinda badly so I shot him at the same time he was triggering (and also without a perfect angle), didn't one shot him (removed a huge chunk of his body). What happened is he just stopped trying to screen, started to slide 2 meters further away in the room, and started feeling again, so I just took him down. Everyone in the lobby was like "WTF" and I wish I had a recording

[real moss]

Ah yes, that is extremely rare. We had one instance like that on C3

[tame cloak]

it's kinda hilarious

[real moss]

It is hugely panic inducing followed by a lot of wtf's and then hilarity

and then #gtfo

[tame cloak]

And then we die 15min later

[real moss]

eksdee

Still did not get that 2nd E1 clear?

[tame cloak]

Nah, only one attempt yesterday

boosterless, died with honor

[real moss]

Good

It 's not the most fun level to play tho

[tame cloak]

yeah

I like the sneaking tho

[real moss]

It could be an idea for a level

[tame cloak]

I should get some D2 completions as the person who goes around getting access

[real moss]

Always fun to be like: guys I'm bringing friends over. runs out followed by 3 tanks

[tame cloak]

[thick sonnet]

anybody wanna play

[tough totem]

lfg would probably be more responsive, ask there

.t lfg

[jaunty hedge]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[obtuse cedar]

"responsive"
Look at the server number of players rn... We are quite a dead period rn 🙂

[tough totem]

I mean

maybe if the devs were up to something we wouldn't be in a dead period

but alas

games are hard to make

and they're lazy after announcing one small thing after 3 months

something like that atleast

[obtuse surge]

you're supposed to play a different game after you finish the rundown

thats the intended way

[robust marsh]

gets flashback to R6EX

[tough totem]

that one part where the lights went out when I went inside was cool

the rest was mid

[robust marsh]

gtfo really isn't but i won't go into that convo i don't want to get my ass banned cause i provoked the mod/dev team

[robust marsh]

IT WAS FUCKING 3 LEVELS

[tough totem]

fr

[robust marsh]

SOMEONE MADE A WHOLE NEW RUNDOWN WITH 140+ ENEMY VARRY AND 20+ LEVELS IN THOSE 3 TO 4 MONTHS!!!

[tough totem]

I'm majoring in game development rn. so I'll learn in one way or another

[robust marsh]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[robust marsh]

... ok im calm now

[robust marsh]

with alot of weapons btw and a class system

[tough totem]

I think the only argument against that is that they aren't all different models
but yeah 10cc got some slack to pick up

[robust marsh]

we got access to unity shit while R6 extension was being lunched

at the moment we have shit ton of new tiles

[tough totem]

thats dope

[robust marsh]

some enemy designs (not a lot of ppl like doing it but we have some)

and shit ton of gun models

and gun parts

im just hoping R8 gets mod support fully

so everyone can enjoy it ):

[tough totem]

I think the most we'll be given to for R8 is more bug fixes

idk abt any new features

[robust marsh]

custom objectives are also a thing i think

i remember 3 custom custom ones

and alot of other objectives that are existing ones but are altered and changed and used so differently that feel like a different objective

Ok i think this is where we should end the modding talk

have a nice day i see you when another argument/talk comes up 😄

[robust marsh]

please no ):

[tough totem]

just thinking realistically

seems like a 10cc thing to do

[turbid cliff]

Fixing bugs

10cc thing to do

[tough totem]

doing 1 new positive change per rundown

bug fixing isn't naturally a 10cc thing bc they focused on 1 new thing per rundown

but Calle made a joke abt the artists not working on new art and instead fixing bugs

so I pray

[wary olive]

Shotgun centerfire not patched but modders already fixed it

[fresh bronze]

its fuckin wack

[tame cloak]

it is !

[tough totem]

he was just doin his job :(

[tranquil mist]

When does r8 get realesed?

[tough totem]

later

probably

[tranquil mist]

Later this year?

[tough totem]

later than that

probably

[half hornet]

current theory / aim is at the 4th quarter of this year. November-December.

Worst case scenario - it'll wait until 2023.

We haven't even had a SINGLE leak yet...

[obtuse surge]

they're climbing mountains

[kind swan]

LF GTFO2

[wary olive]

What happened to doc? Does he no longer work at 10cc

[errant vigil]

he still works for 10cc his job requires him to not be on discord now

[half hornet]

Didn't he left d-server as to not deal with our shenanigans?

[broken scarab]

I am funny like that sometimes

[tough totem]

Calle you're hilarious

[broken scarab]

God forbid that we as a studio try to evolve together, taking two days away from the office (and one weekend day) to help build a sustainable company 🙂

[tough totem]

I support the mental and physical health breaks

[broken scarab]

And I also understand where the frustration is coming from. But these two things aren't direct opposites 🙂

[candid dragon]

Smh imagine not reallocating the janitor to playtesting.

[broken scarab]

We don't have a janitor. But if we had, I wish he was like the one in Control.

[obtuse surge]

god forbid that you as a studio manage to fix a string of objective text within 3 months

how can D1 still be this broken

is anyone in the team trying to fix it

or is it just what it is

like if its really hard to fix it

tell us that you're trying to fix it

it don't look like you are

[mortal portal]

Devs going on a no transparency diet

[obtuse surge]

garden environment still never unloads

and every redrop will just load a new instance of it

has anyone in the dev team tried to fix it

[mortal portal]

The snatcher bug when you kill it right as it grabs you

[obtuse surge]

do they know that's even the problem

where are the devs

[uneven plank]

wE fIxEd ThE dOoR cHeEsE

[eternal dragon]

[mortal portal]

Not to mention the subtitles being off timing

[uneven plank]

it's only been there since rundown oh, ONE

[mortal portal]

Bruh, man posting about modded on official discord

[obtuse surge]

Samdown on top

[strange junco]

is it me or the game gets laggy sometimes when you dont lag before

[mortal portal]

I wish to be as fearless as this guy

[velvet flower]

:%s/timed_sequence/timed_connection/ig
This is extremely hard to fix you know

[uneven plank]

samdown fuckin owns harder than any official rundown could begin to, there's a spoiler for you

[mortal portal]

But yeah, Samdown is top tier people

[sharp merlin]

no complex unloads? its literally how the game is built, so that you can drop in faster when you fail a mission

Especially regarding checkpoints

[obtuse surge]

read the next line then

[eternal dragon]

That ruins my immersion 😡

[sharp merlin]

It doesn't make new instance of it

[mortal portal]

My immersion

[sharp merlin]

They aren't that stupid

[obtuse surge]

then what does it do

[sharp merlin]

Markers and shit are rerolled per seed

Not the entire tile

[obtuse surge]

what does that have to do with memory continuously increasing every drop

[sharp merlin]

Where have you sourced this information from?

I understand not everything is properly reset, causing memory leak

But how you are phrasing it is ridiculous

[obtuse surge]

it was either storm or ray that looked into it

[sharp merlin]

What you imply is that like the memory would double every drop?

[obtuse surge]

i dont remember

[sharp merlin]

Storm

[obtuse surge]

and yeh it does exactly that dude

[sharp merlin]

Ray doesn't know that much

[obtuse surge]

it adds another instance of the gardens

[kind swan]

[sharp merlin]

I would double check that lol

[obtuse surge]

like it's a consistent chunk of memory per drop

because it just adds another instance to it

[sharp merlin]

I think your confusing complex not unloading between different complex and the same complex

I'll doublecheck

[obtuse surge]

ok but

whatever the issue is

its not gonna take 3 months to fix it

for someone that cares

[sharp merlin]

R7E1 thunderdome still broken lol

random east side

Samdown deleted omegalul

[mortal portal]

100 employees btw

[velvet flower]

Repeated seed glitch also there...

[kind swan]

FixGamepls

Eval2Wen

[mortal portal]

SaveGTFO

[sharp merlin]

Hopefully the new game is cool, I don't doubt it will be very good, since almost all of the Devs are working on itl.

At this point me and a couple other modders could make R8 entirely.

It's not that much work for new enemy, or new environment, or new scan alarm, or new weapon with new scopes
(because that's all they really do)

Immortal really just ended up being a Tank greyscaled without eggsacks, and having the ladder animation removed

[eternal dragon]

Can’t wait to finally play the old rundowns

[obtuse cedar]

you want more A2 completion on that one rundown?

[eternal dragon]

I just love new content ❤️

Old rundowns = New content

[half hornet]

For no reason at all I feel like I'm playing evolve again

[ocean tundra]

I'm hyped to revisit old favorites, like R3C1, all of R6's priorities, all of the R2 B tier, and more.

[half hornet]

"Hey, this game is pretty ne~ it's dead."

[broken scarab]

It dies a couple of times a year. Have more lives than a cat

[obtuse cedar]

I don't think this is a good thing though

Imagine wanting to relive death multiple times

[half hornet]

Hey, at least there are no dlc characters for 3 times the price

[obtuse cedar]

Legit we would be happy with new rundowns that adds nothing new. Just push new expeditions that give use an extra rundown while we wait for more bug fixes, story and features

[broken scarab]

Still needs resources though, even if it’s “just” expeditions

[half hornet]

Extensions seems like a great solution to water the soil until the proper rain.

1 new level every 2-3 months, just for keks.

[mortal granite]

um

last time that happen, people are upset

"Why devs give 3 level in 3 months" (R6 extension)

[obtuse cedar]

You need some resources that are paid to do this job though... Level designers design a level :)

[broken scarab]

Someone is always upset 🥹

[broken scarab]

Not really following

[obtuse cedar]

You just need 2-3 people designing 2-3 expeditions each. This could be done within 3 months i feel

[mortal granite]

well, modder do have a tool that give you a level really fast

it's just a generic one, but you have A level

[obtuse cedar]

Then we would have a cycle of 3 months for new maps.. but 6 months for new "major" features

[half hornet]

You guys need some rotation system, like warframe. Maybe even a properly randomised procedural level. Or some endless suicide mode where you just fight forever until you die (not canon ).

[obtuse cedar]

Not every missions needs to be unique

[mortal granite]

they could add randomizer in for expedition

[broken scarab]

Randomising a level isn't the "hard" part. It's making it fun, balanced with resources vs enemies, set dressing, playsting, etc

[mortal granite]

yup

that's what i want, but the method i mention was just a generic one since people really want levels to play

[half hornet]

Set dressing? What's that?

[boreal tendon]

did someone say R6 Kekstension?

[broken scarab]

And I get that for some, a barebone level could probably satisfy an itch but it doesn't make sense to push it to all players.

[broken scarab]

All the details. Vehicles, stations, props and foliage

[half hornet]

Ah. Speaking of that...

[mortal granite]

i'm not gonna say modder are bad, since they do make some good expedition themself, but there is some expedition that did the thing i said above where it's just barebone level

[half hornet]

B1 vehicle placements are horrible.

[ocean tundra]

Some people just like to complain. Valid complaint or not, it feels like people go in circles here.
Yea, I've had my gripes with 10C before, but things arent nearly as bad as people are making them out to be.

[half hornet]

They have nowhere to go, they don't fit anything and frankly with rooms that small I don't see why they're even there. Nothing 3 sweaty lads can't do.

[broken scarab]

I have no problem with people voicing their opinions. It's all good. As long as it's phrased as their opinion. Not a fact or consensus.

[atomic escarp]

I think this game is really good

once you get a lobotomy

you'll start enjoying it

[obtuse cedar]

Can we say it is a fact that the server dies often :)

Only 20 people in lfg

[real moss]

making it fun? R5B2 fun????????

[atomic escarp]

R5B2 is fun

[real moss]

😭

[obtuse surge]

its a fact that i just got 2 snatchers when there's supposed to be 1

[obtuse cedar]

That level was indeed chaos fun

[atomic escarp]

It's a good level to filter people out

[real moss]

That level was cancer on cancer

[broken scarab]

Sorry. This is GTFO. Should have said punishing.

[mortal granite]

what was it

[boreal tendon]

fog and spitters

no need to say anything else

[atomic escarp]

me and another guy brought 2 people doing it blind and we done it one try

[obtuse cedar]

It was a very fun level. People who can't handle chaos though will hate it

[real moss]

Thank you Calle. remember artist no work till bugs fixed. TY !

[atomic escarp]

fun and not punishing at all

[obtuse surge]

R5B2 when we got a bandaid fix for uplinks ending all alarms

they still do now but you can't repeat the last code anymore

R5B2 when they realised that putting too much stuff in a zone makes level gen unintentionally random

yet they made the same mistake again this rundown

[real moss]

If you enjoy it, you're an elitist

[boreal tendon]

pretty sure it's up to designer/implementer to decide whether it should end all waves or not

[broken scarab]

Of course

[obtuse surge]

😂

[obtuse cedar]

If you hate it. You are a casual that barely plays this game :)

[atomic escarp]

I love gaslighting people too!

[real moss]

You are right, I never finished Eval

[obtuse surge]

so true panda, it's by design that you can turn off alarms using uplinks

0 doubt

[boreal tendon]

i mean, there is a boolean variable for it

not sure if it works tho

[obtuse surge]

yeh but for uplinks it just always does

it doesn't matter

[boreal tendon]

would you be suprised that it was intended by design?

[obtuse surge]

you think the stealth S1 you could do in R5C1 was by design

[obtuse cedar]

See. You never could learn how to deal with it :)

[obtuse surge]

[boreal tendon]

not sure which one you mean

[obtuse surge]

the 2nd S1

you could just turn off the alarm for it

using the uplink

[boreal tendon]

ah, right

well, it "stops all waves"

[obtuse surge]

yes

but it doesn't even say that for uplinks

it just does because that was the easiest to implement

[real moss]

Right again, I only was able to learn the game through the checkpoint addition. weeeeeeee 🥳

[obtuse cedar]

Such a good mechanics that works without any bugs

[ocean tundra]

I get that, and neither do I. I've just hated seeing a community like this become far more bitter as time goes on.

[velvet flower]

It must be intentional design because in R7C3 overload, if you're fast then you get more challenging waves, if you're slow you got rewarded for less waves.

[obtuse surge]

xdd

[velvet flower]

Which makes perfect sense because if you're fast, you probably want more heads to click instead of stand still for 5 minutes. And if you're slow, you just want to extract right away without anything bothering your team

[real moss]

Oh man never let the gravy turn sour

[half hornet]

Imho my main gripe so far is optimisation. The game would be far more enjoyable if it didn't ran like ass and took solid 90 seconds to load a level.

[broken scarab]

One need to remember that Discord is the most dedicated players. Most players aren't even active in these channels, maybe use LFG sometimes. So neither Discord (or Steam Forums/Reddit) is representative of the community as a whole

And, humans has a tendency to express their discomfort rather than pleasure

And I don't say this to disqualify any criticism. Just that some perspective is needed.

[half hornet]

Never seen a warframe forum post that says "game is perfect, thank you" 🤔

[strange junco]

gtfo is perfect, thank you

[mental saddle]

game is, thank you

[real moss]

game, thank

[strange junco]

g, t

[ocean tundra]

Y'know, you're right.

[obtuse cedar]

Tf2 is a perfect game that has no issues of bot swarming it

[obtuse surge]

if you design a t-scan that moves slower than my crouching speed, you are banned from making video games

:))

[half hornet]

I... Actually agree with that.

Literally the NPC escort issue.

At least it can't die...

[broken scarab]

Imagine just existing would be good enough 🥹

[broken scarab]

Inspiration!

[half hornet]

👀

[ripe lichen]

Hey everyone! So I'm kind of seeking help for my group, we're all stuck on C1 this rundown and we're trying to clear it for 2 months or so now 😄 Every time we get to the last section of the map, we get absolutely obliterated by the alarm and can't survive, even if we're going in with full health / ammo. All the rooms up to Zone 28 (iirc) are stuffed full of monsters, and we get completely overwhelmed from behind too. Is there anything obvious that can help stop the waves or help us survive longer? Or any smart ideas for weapons / builds to take? Thanks in advance!

[real moss]

what's the loadout?

how many players

etc

[lyric narwhal]

for the last segment where you run to extract you really just need to get to the full team scan security door without anyone dying, the enemies behind you can dealt with by mining closable doors behind you, applying foam to those doors also helps

once youre through the full team scan its not that hard really

[ripe lichen]

4 of us, I run assault rifle / machine gun / mine deployer. Our current build is 3x sentries, 1x mines

[real moss]

foam but don't mine untill last two doors

mine will kill the enemies, empties spawn cap, get a new spawn

[ripe lichen]

The others usually run smg / lmg or precision weapons, but they're flexible. We've tried different things.

[real moss]

3x sentries can work, 2 is enough tho

[lyric narwhal]

idk in this case you kinda want to the bulk of the enemies to just be as far as posible so its kinda a tossup on that front

[real moss]

a reason for the 3 sentries?

[ripe lichen]

We typically survive the scan, but then we open the next zone and there's 20 odd sleepers both in front and behind us. We've even had a wave spawn in front of us, after closing, mining and foaming a door with a grenade

[ripe lichen]

We found there just wasn't much use for foam before this point in the level, so we went for firepower to survive.

[real moss]

yes thats why you foam but don't mine it

[real moss]

fair, you can do it without the foam ofc

[kind swan]

This is the very reason I dont mine the door before Security scan. Too many times I've seen it and enemies spawn in extract room

[real moss]

yeah like I said just the last door

[lyric narwhal]

i dont think thats ever happened to me

[real moss]

but WHEN it happens ....

[kind swan]

Depends if you open the security door the moment it unlocks and when the mine goes off

[lyric narwhal]

yeah i get it its just usually the inexperienced teams i play through that part with die before they even get to the scan

[ripe lichen]

I'm not even reaching the last security door as a team 🤣

[half hornet]

Last portion of C1?

[real moss]

I mean its just run in and shoot. try having 2 and 2. 2 looking front, 2 looking back

[ripe lichen]

We'll do the full scan and survive the grabbers, but once we open Zone 27 we just get completely pincered

[kind swan]

Gotta rush through rooms and it's kind of RNG what spawns you have. Sometimes one room is super populated. Other times they're spread out

[half hornet]

Yeah, I hate it too.

[ripe lichen]

Yeah. Every time we've opened the 2nd last zone, it's just rooms jam packed with sleepers.

[real moss]

you can time it in between waves as well

[half hornet]

How are your boosters?

Try quadro stacking HEL shotgun and bring some ammo supply efficiency boosters.

HEL shotgun got mean stagger on it and you can lock down waves in place.

[real moss]

boosters should not be the reason you win.

[half hornet]

The most brainless weapon I can think of.

Special will have to compensate, of course.

[kind swan]

No... hel shotgun is definitely strong but not as a 4 piece

[half hornet]

My C3 PE clear thinks otherwise, but who knows really.

C1 is far more open as well... Less CQC.

But could work.

[kind swan]

It's also given if all 4 know how to use hel shotgun effectively otherwise ammo waste

[half hornet]

I just sprayed for my dear life 🤷‍♂️

[ripe lichen]

Yeah, I'm more looking for smarter answers to how to deal with the last bit of the level 😛

[real moss]

well

pew pew more

[lyric narwhal]

just the minute the door after the room scan finishes opens you wanna get through that first door and reinforce it behind you

[ripe lichen]

We have the first 2 bits down easily, we just completely run out of steam and ammo trying to clear such a massive amount of enemies

[half hornet]

Ive cleared it like 3 times by now and I honestly don't see the one-for-all trick for it.

[lyric narwhal]

run past everything

dont leave anyone behind

[alpine spindle]

Try clearing the wave before opening the last door

[half hornet]

Rushing into populated rooms with waves in your tail is fucking brutal and every single one of my squads struggled hard on it.

[real moss]

you rush in with hammer, and only switch to gun when wabe catches up

[alpine spindle]

If you have a cfoam made + a mine, mine the first door you go through after the sec door

[real moss]

can make the next wave spawn on extract

[lyric narwhal]

youre not getting to extraction zone right?

[half hornet]

You just have to git gud unfortunately. As an option: you could try feeding your cfoamer all of the tool refill, get behind the first closable door and perfma foam it until the other 3 push forward and clear the way.

[ripe lichen]

As long as I'm not missing something silly like an alarm override or similar, I'm happy to keep thinking of new options 😛

[half hornet]

Also: dagger

[real moss]

it is basically a enemy management test

[ripe lichen]

No, we typically get to the 2nd room before extract

[half hornet]

C1 is great for it

[alpine spindle]

Well you run through another door after and then do the last sec scan, by then they blow up and the next wave spawns in front, not extract

[half hornet]

Got so many stabs

[lyric narwhal]

so youre just not able to open the security door even?

[half hornet]

I actually have it on video too but it's too cringe to post

[real moss]

my bad I thought you meant the big door before the sec scan

[alpine spindle]

Oh, no, after

Running through part

[ripe lichen]

We get obliterated by the massive waves before we get to the security door

[lyric narwhal]

have you been able to even get to the door to start it?

[ripe lichen]

If we gotta git gud, fair enough, I was hoping there was something stupid that could help

[real moss]

I got a very clean clear of it if you want, But it is basically us running and shooting

[half hornet]

Unfortunately not, it's just that brutal

It's like 2 times difficulty or glp hunt

[kind swan]

My only exception to use guns is if a giant is particularly in the way and will down anyone before the scan door

[half hornet]

Oh right, giants.

Do you have a dedicated sniper?

[kind swan]

Otherwise a team that can just synchronize and all melee the giant on the run

[ripe lichen]

If we take a sniper, it's usually me 🙂

[real moss]

no real need. MG does the trick on C1

I would totally agree with you if it was still R6 sniper

[half hornet]

Most likely. I ended up being sniper all 3 times I won that level.

Coincidentally I always end up having 0 bullets left while extracting 🤔

[kind swan]

Depends if they prefer/can control MG

Otherwise you gotta get within range to hipfire the giant

[ripe lichen]

My team prefers MG usually, but I can convince a few to take dedicated SG's for room clear

[real moss]

hmmm we had ammo to spare.

[ripe lichen]

We've been great on the rest of the level, so we can try to just equip ourselves for the GLP hunt and this part

[kind swan]

Ammo to spare means you did error with minimal ammo usage

[torpid ember]

choke shotty, pop giants and snatcher ez

[real moss]

not really, we were even too lazy to use terminal

[kind swan]

Minimal ammo usage didnt imply terminal but ye

[half hornet]

All my squads suffered heavy ammo deficiencies for some reason

[real moss]

well efficient terminal usage can save time eg save ammo

[half hornet]

They weren't even that bad so...

[real moss]

meaby people don't scan out all the resources correctly or something

[half hornet]

Waiting for that final alarm with 40% in each gun

Not what I call "to spare"

[real moss]

just rewatched, I'm at 75% on each gun and have a 3 use ammopack

[half hornet]

How the fuck

[torpid ember]

shoot and dont miss

[half hornet]

Do you melee only the error alarm or something

[real moss]

the lowest on the team has 57% and 55%

it was with rando's

good rando's to be honest

36 min run 😅

[kind swan]

You can melee most of the error technically

[half hornet]

That's the thing - mine weren't bad either, we did win in the end.

[real moss]

I was search party

[kind swan]

Usual mistake is using guns/sentries on first error

[half hornet]

But every time the extraction scan is a literal final stand with 1 bullet and a knife

[real moss]

Melee'd a part of the last zones yes

[ripe lichen]

Alright, I think I got some ideas of what I can do to help my team. Good to know about mining causing forward spawns

[real moss]

well good luck. 👍 today is the day

[ripe lichen]

I'll try coach em a bit and swap our weapons around, maybe try find some gameplay footage so they can see the zone and plan around it

[half hornet]

Down, forward-right, left, right, forward-right, left, right, hold.

[ripe lichen]

B, A, start. aaaand infinite health 😄

[real moss]

spawns in tank

[half hornet]

↗️⬅️➡️↗️⬅️➡️⏹️

[kind swan]

hackett starts fighting sleepers like its Tekken

[half hornet]

That's th general directions towards extraction zone.

And if we assume map doesn't move and its compass locked...

↗️⬅️⬆️↗️⬅️⬆️

[ripe lichen]

That's more detail than I expected lol

I gotta go but I'll make it work, thanks again for the help all!

[kind swan]

Before the last 2 arrows

Is the security door

[atomic escarp]

⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬅️ ➡️ ⬅️ ➡️ 🅱️ 🅰️ ⭐T

[broken scarab]

Haha, love this

[obtuse cedar]

take your time. loot zone 27. steadily advance.. there are plenty of ammo in that zone. you feel rushed but just focus on one thing. leave sentries with 1 player dealing with the back, have 3 people clear the first room then start to move as a team while looting. you really don't need to rush.

[tame cloak]

First time I was able to shoot in a room with my HCP and somehow sleepers didn't wake up, and I'm pretty sure there was no sound barriers around

[half hornet]

The room sleepers are weird this way, I have no idea what does and doesn't wake them up. Could be more checkpoint shenanigans.

[robust marsh]

you had bot protection or something?

[tame cloak]

full player team

And I basically Occupit hammer a giant + HCP his back for a quick kill

[robust marsh]

were you by any chance bishop?

[tame cloak]

and all the sleepers were like

"we sleep"

I was Hackett

[robust marsh]

ahhhh that make sense

hacketts stealth skills are lower than bishop

but it does help

[atomic escarp]

did you swap weapons after shooting high cal

[tough totem]

bishop is just better

[tame cloak]

might have

[robust marsh]

as bishop you have 60% of an room not waking up when you shoot inside

[atomic escarp]

you probably just noise cancelled that shot

[robust marsh]

hackett has 30%

[atomic escarp]

if you did

[robust marsh]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[atomic escarp]

it's fairly easy to trigger it

just do a frame perfect swap after shooting

[robust marsh]

im trying to give false info here why must you be like this

):

can't have anything in this community anymore

[atomic escarp]

well first of all it's spoiler chat, second it's not funny, third I don't like fabricating false info

if you're trying to guilt trip me for explaining then it's not working

[tough totem]

I think its funny

and I do like making false info

2 points disproven

[half hornet]

Fourth: we need that shit fixed

Frame perfect though...

[tough totem]

just set frames to 1 per second

easy

[robust marsh]

you know

it was suppose to be funny thing

like ppl considering it

[atomic escarp]

not my concern

[half hornet]

I mean it is funny, but it doesn't help to address the legitimate question of why and how

[robust marsh]

.... understandable have a great day?

[half hornet]

I still think the sleepies are just broken in those rooms and are decisevely deaf

What the... Those are not your words.

[atomic escarp]

i also like to tell people that kiting is fixed

i guess that's funny

[half hornet]

Oh, there we go, it fixed itself

For a second discord broke and thought me to be skill issue man

[robust marsh]

that sounds like a skill issue im not gonna lie

[robust marsh]

gun damage and stagger improved =most of it fixed

[tame cloak]

for more context the shot was in A1 zone 48A, I was in the middle of the room just next to the right staircase that goes up to the door that leads to 49, there was a striker up the stairs

So yeah, noise cancelling you say ?

(Also i think ReyJones' joke is funny)

[tough totem]

noise canceling sound pretty believable with this game tbh

[nocturne flax]

Silents shots are a thing

Just be good at switching weapons

[tough totem]

if you put your hand over the barel of a gun and make an o shape, the gun will omit less noise

easy weapon silencer

or supresser

there's a difference, I just don't know what

[twin fog]

i just put my hand over the barrel of the gun

now there's a permanent o-shape

[candid dragon]

You see dmitry, hold hand in front of gun ...

[obtuse surge]

D2PE

someone lag so you open the door twice

and then u get the wave event twice

[half hornet]

In R6 or?

Because current D2 has no pe

[tame cloak]

current ofc

[real moss]

R6D2 did not have PE either

[uneven plank]

r7d2pe is extracting with 2 cells

[obtuse cedar]

you need to kill everything too though for it to count

[uneven plank]

yes, of course

[half hornet]

Wtf are any of you talking about

You mean the doom run?

[mental saddle]

everything, including teammates

[uneven plank]

wtf are we talking about? wtf are you talking about?