#gtfo-spoiler-chat

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fresh bronze
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I don't have time to dedicate more that 20 hours to rerunning a map from the beginning so without checkpoints id end up looking at the level before playing it which ruins the learning process that i enjoy

kind swan
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They got skill issued

real moss
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can we have a ban please !!!

tame cloak
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would've guessed

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lemme read in detail

kind swan
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Most people already playing gtfo didnt want cps

robust marsh
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checkpoints were suggested to battle the long missions like every level in R5

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it was a good suggestion but devs execution made them bad

tame cloak
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Damn there's a lot of you guys who spend that much time answering steam threads ?

kind swan
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Matchmaking I understand to a degree. But only if it fkn worked

dreamy bramble
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there are long missions in r7?

robust marsh
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casue i hated the rundown so much

kind swan
tame cloak
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Artek, DjDNA, Rayalot, lots of name I see often meruteehee

real moss
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you can see in every way the CP's were never intended and the game is not build for it

robust marsh
dreamy bramble
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c2 is kinda long if you checkpoint

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but e1 is like hard 1 hour

real moss
robust marsh
real moss
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putting a CP there is a joke

kind swan
robust marsh
robust marsh
real moss
robust marsh
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right now if we remove the exploits from bugs C2 is a decent and half long level

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that doesn't give you a headache cause checkpoints exist

kind swan
dreamy bramble
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0

real moss
robust marsh
real moss
kind swan
robust marsh
real moss
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when does the game start to become challenging agaign ?

fresh bronze
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At the end of the day you could just not play from checkpoints

kind swan
robust marsh
dreamy bramble
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checkpoints killed public lobbies for me

real moss
dreamy bramble
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can't just run a quick game anymore if you get the type of person who wants to grind a fucked cp for hours

robust marsh
real moss
robust marsh
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proof: LFG channels (unless i have shit luck and drop in with worse ppl)

robust marsh
real moss
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jump into D tier with rando's.

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you basically have to re explain the whole game

robust marsh
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in R4 most of the time the person in D1 would have at least 50 to 60 hours

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in R7 you only need 20 to get down to D1

dreamy bramble
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well tbf the reqs to go through tiers are easier than ever

real moss
dreamy bramble
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just clearing the 1s vs. collecting all the medals

robust marsh
real moss
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also cause we only get new rundowns wevery 6 months for the good of the community people need to be taking ages to clear it

real moss
tame cloak
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270h on R7 and I still haven't cleared E1 I'm ashamed

robust marsh
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don't worry i got 150 and i still don't have it xD

real moss
tame cloak
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I need to up my D2 compeltions I only have one

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yeah I'm getting a lot out of it

fresh bronze
tame cloak
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oh yeah hold on only 240h cause I played modded a bit

real moss
robust marsh
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meh anyways the root of the problem goes to me not liking E1 cause its in my opinion not a good level

robust marsh
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maybe it goes to my modding side

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cause i can see how better it can be

tame cloak
robust marsh
real moss
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But I would like the E tiers to remain CP clean

real moss
fresh bronze
robust marsh
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damn there is a E1 lobby right now

real moss
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so watch out

robust marsh
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but i don't want to have a headache sad

fresh bronze
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The game is aimply terrible at teaching new players

robust marsh
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the game is easy to get a hold of

tame cloak
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Eval is such a good step in the right direction but it's lacking

robust marsh
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but very and i mean very hard to master

tame cloak
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It's even hard to find it

strange junco
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the game wasnt supposed to teach new players

dreamy bramble
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rundown system just makes it hard to get people in

strange junco
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you're supposed to fuck around and find out

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not hand held into playing the game

real moss
robust marsh
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cause most think mastering it is mastering placements of sentries, movement or shooting and aiming

dreamy bramble
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new rundowns would introduce their new concepts in mini tutorial sections that are just not there anymore

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so joining in these later rundowns is tough with all the new mechanics

fresh bronze
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You can get good enough to do atleast every main exclusing e1 in 20-30 hours if the game was better at teaching

fresh bronze
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But its just not

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Thats why i personally think checkpoints are good for atleast c tier and easier

robust marsh
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tbh teaching players should still be a community thing

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it made others stay in the game and make friends

real moss
fresh bronze
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I can see them dropped for later levels but keeping them in early levels would def be good

robust marsh
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i mean hell i got all my friends ( all) from this and modding server cause they helped me out

real moss
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that way you have that extra chance, BUT if you just keep ffin up the game tells you basically that you are not ready yet

fresh bronze
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I coached my friends and they extremely quickly got good at the game

real moss
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the gates of hell will open on you

fresh bronze
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It should vary between checkpoints tbh

robust marsh
strange junco
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steam discussion is like gaming version of twitter

fresh bronze
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End of d1 for example has a extremely memory based section

strange junco
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d1 gets extremely easy with a cooperative and coordinating team

robust marsh
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i don't even know what D1 is tbh i just beat it once half-sleep and that was it

fresh bronze
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Doing it without memorizing terminals is waay harder tho

strange junco
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just note the numbers in chat

real moss
strange junco
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i had 1 guy cover the left portion, 1 guy on the right, i cover the middle and the extra guy covers the bridge with the sentries

real moss
robust marsh
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for me it was 1 competed player on the left side
me and another guy on the right side and going left sometimes and 1 guy defending and putting in commands in middle

fresh bronze
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We had 2 on bridge and we drew a map with all the terminals

real moss
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ah and some guy wants babies nerfed ........

robust marsh
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wut...

strange junco
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nerfing babies

robust marsh
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babies nerfed?....

strange junco
fresh bronze
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Kek

robust marsh
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THE......................WHAT

real moss
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cause they are too fast and it is ridiculous that they can catch up to you ....

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his words

strange junco
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just hammer tap lmao

robust marsh
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time to go on a massive genocide with my hel shotgun again

real moss
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you can ask him, he is there in the discussions. I'll never forget that one

robust marsh
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speaking of hel shotgun

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how much you bet its going to be removed from game in R8

real moss
robust marsh
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some weapons stay a few rundowns

real moss
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yeah some like the hel revo

robust marsh
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but im sure sniper sentry and hel shotgun are going to get removed

real moss
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but not all

strange junco
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didnt they say they arent removing content now

robust marsh
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because they are too OP

real moss
fresh bronze
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Oh yeah i killed first invis scouts today

real moss
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not sure if it works for weapons

dreamy bramble
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i think the content thing is for expeditions

robust marsh
fresh bronze
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Way easier the charger scouts

real moss
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you can cycle the weapons, that would not be removing them

robust marsh
dreamy bramble
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the whole rundown specific wep/tool system was just meant to be a temporary measure anyways

real moss
dreamy bramble
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though looks like we're stuck with it :))

fresh bronze
robust marsh
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HA! me and my friends killed 10

robust marsh
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get rekt

fresh bronze
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Invis scouts would prob be pretty damn hard in a very bright room

strange junco
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you would see the shadows

fresh bronze
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Melee only right?

robust marsh
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yes it is pain if you don't know where to aim

robust marsh
fresh bronze
robust marsh
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another part of mastering the game is learning when to grab a damn gun and when to melee things

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oh look there is a horde of 6 enemies infront of us
that one guy: Don't worry guys i got this
rushes into the horde of enemies with a hammer

fresh bronze
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Otherwise hp is typically more valuable than ammo

robust marsh
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and the giants were awake

fresh bronze
robust marsh
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i had to chock mod every giant cause the other 3 were trying to melee them with small sleepers around xd

fresh bronze
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Dumb mfs

robust marsh
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yes

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they were good at the game

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but no where close to mastering it

fresh bronze
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I only charge into a crowd melee if i have no ammo or its a reset anyways

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Aka c3 lmfao

robust marsh
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oh look a enemy woke up on the other side of the room
would you rather
A- shoot the scout that you may not reach in time to melee
B-try to melee the scout but risking it waking up

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i took A...got scolded for doing so

real moss
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always immediatly shoot the scout

robust marsh
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see

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i got scolded by all 3 of them saying they had it under control

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like i don't care

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i rather kill a whole room

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than have a scout wave with that room

atomic escarp
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I guess they scolded you for not being faster than a bullet (sarcasm)

fresh bronze
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If the scout is close and i was already charging a swing B is better

robust marsh
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no for shooting the scout

fallow wasp
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I hope next rundown has a few levels like E1 with there being no checkpoints at all

robust marsh
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he ran to it but i was sure he would get there too late

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enemy was going to scream

real moss
fallow wasp
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Checkpoints are nice and I like them but it’s also fun to be able to conquer a level with no hope of falling back on a save

fresh bronze
tame cloak
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E tier no CP, and limit D to 1

atomic escarp
tame cloak
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D2 has only one but it's such a short level

fallow wasp
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Yes you can choose not to use them, but what pub is gonna want to do that

fresh bronze
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Altho normally i wouldnt have a choice since i normally run automatic weapons

real moss
robust marsh
atomic escarp
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The only argumentation that I see is that it "spoils" people into behaving stupidly

robust marsh
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altho i will say it was one of my best chockmod shotgun shots

fallow wasp
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At the same time, it gives hope and a fall back so people can be stupid

real moss
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not the removing. there is a subtle difference

fresh bronze
fallow wasp
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There was a specific fear I had in R5 when like 2 hours into a run

robust marsh
fallow wasp
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It was exhilarating

real moss
fresh bronze
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In a realistic situation you dont wake up a fucking sleeper in a room with a scout

strange junco
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MFW you need to activate checkpoint to progress

atomic escarp
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where's your face when? is it the avatar?

robust marsh
tame cloak
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another golden

real moss
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he made a post about GTFO NFT's

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try to find it

tame cloak
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oh god

fresh bronze
real moss
robust marsh
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but lets move on from my experience don't want to remember it

fallow wasp
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How illegal is it to make NFTs for a game you don’t own any rights to? 1-10

robust marsh
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20

real moss
tame cloak
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found it

fallow wasp
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Ah

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Thank god

robust marsh
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your going to get yourself nuked if the game dev dont like it

real moss
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he basically was acuusing the devs of making gtfo nft's

fresh bronze
tame cloak
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AH YES THE PRINTS ARE NFTS

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REAL LIFE LIMITED EDITION OBJECTS

real moss
tame cloak
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ARE NON FUNGIBLE TOKENS

strange junco
tame cloak
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their mom is non fungible

strange junco
fallow wasp
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Physical posters are closer to the idea of NFTs than NFTs are

real moss
robust marsh
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one other part of it is thinking fast on your feet

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and adapting

strange junco
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me trying to sleep early so i go to bed at midnight

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wakes up 1 hour later energized as hell

kind surge
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Isn't one of the key points of nfts being that they don't physically exist?

strange junco
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nft's main shit is like

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blockchain

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whatever the fuck that is

real moss
robust marsh
strange junco
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expand my nuts

robust marsh
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that will have values by ppls beliefs

fresh bronze
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Ive had some extremely unlucky cases but generally if you just walk up to a scout you will kill it 99% of the time

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Just bonk it on the head

robust marsh
strange junco
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remember when game pull a slick one on me and decide to not register my hit

robust marsh
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today i wiffed the easiest scout so hard

strange junco
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orange crosshair, but scout wakes up anyway

robust marsh
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0.5 meters away

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from my hammer

real moss
# robust marsh and adapting

Like when you drop first time in a level, you find a terminal and you KNOW what the level is gonna be like, give or take

tame cloak
strange junco
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whenever i try to jump hammer i always whiff

real moss
strange junco
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you wifed

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wife

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congratulations on the wedding

fresh bronze
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I was lining up to kill a sleeper and a fucking scout jumps up a ladder and instantly deploys which corners me with feelers

real moss
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thats some R rated sh..

robust marsh
fresh bronze
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No lights or anything to set it off, it just had terrible timing

robust marsh
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now i don't know if i miss spelled or just getting made fun of xdddd

real moss
robust marsh
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whats the right word?!?!!?

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TELL ME

tame cloak
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whiff

robust marsh
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thanks myresa

fallow wasp
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Give spear back the ability to kill multiple dudes in a line and boom a good reason to run it over hammer in certain situations

real moss
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whiffed

tame cloak
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But what's the issue with a little wifing merusip

robust marsh
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im 16 soooooooooo big problem (:

fresh bronze
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Atleast he didnt say yiffed

real moss
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...

strange junco
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wifed

robust marsh
real moss
strange junco
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i wifed you

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wifing a scout sounds like something that ends up in the six digit code

real moss
fresh bronze
# real moss not much, but when its a scout

Did the craziest shit earlier, was going for a incis scout, missed my swing because of a invis sleeper i missed, i somehow managed to correct and kill the scout fast enough it didnt set off

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Was c3 so no ammo kek

real moss
fresh bronze
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Im on a small ass phone

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So i cant be assed

silent kettle
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It's amazing that gtfo has a disable needle function for people who have a fear of vaccines

robust marsh
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one of my friends (i like to think his my friend anyway cause i am a lonely man in IRL) types so fast in terminal you get scared

tame cloak
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Aren't the issues with needles.. the needles ? and not the vaccines ?

real moss
tame cloak
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I know people are scared of vaccines too

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but what

strange junco
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people getting squeamish

real moss
fresh bronze
fallow wasp
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If you have needles turned off it should become a pet dispenser

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Pez

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Jesus autocorrect

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No eating your pets

real moss
real moss
kind swan
mossy marsh
hallow lark
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Does the syringe look like something else then?

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Or is it just not there

half hornet
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Probably just not there

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Like one of those hidden injectors that only put out needles when doing the deed, the sci-fi type

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which actually would look perfect in GTFO, but kovac are too lazy for such advanced designs

kind swan
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Imean. Kovacs is the security side.

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Security doors/Security Scans etc.

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KDS
Kovac Defense Services

obtuse surge
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do we get orange glowsticks next month

agile sundial
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Refunding if we don't tbh

real moss
jolly lily
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If we not getting rgb glow sticks we raid 10 chambers

real moss
jolly lily
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What if i raid shadow legend

kind swan
real moss
obtuse surge
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love being host in matchmaking with modder

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return to lobby at 90% extraction

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epic troll

mossy marsh
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That's simply a difference in skill

jolly lily
real moss
mossy marsh
jolly lily
real moss
tough totem
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what's with the rudeness?

kind swan
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Spicy

fresh bronze
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Me and my friend doing a duo for c3

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main checkpoint we have been hit a total of 3 times

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feels good

real moss
tough totem
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hmu when you do C3 PE with a team of 0 tho

fresh bronze
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we are in esports room so we gotta call it and head to algebra

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good god this is gonna be a fun level

fierce laurel
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do ur Pythagorean theorems

fringe surge
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Duo c3

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May the bonk be with you

velvet flower
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Never realize D1 Z203 has some randomized tiles

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I guess it's so triggered to play the level.

valid kestrel
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Where is that in D1?

strange junco
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class v i think

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not the exact room that lowers the alarm but somewhere before it

mortal granite
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203 is the room that connect to 204 205 and 206

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so the checkpoint door i think

velvet flower
sharp merlin
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its not different tiles

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It's the same tile

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It's the marker inside the tile rerolling

valid kestrel
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is it worth doing for the overload?

strange junco
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perhaps

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if you want to save time

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decided to shit an a1 lobby because there was an ammo cheater in the lobby

fringe surge
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Ammo cheater

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A1

strange junco
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yep

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i shot the entire lobby up because they were trying to revive him

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and managed to ignore everything they say

fringe surge
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I mean
I've done the same but in r6 dx

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Dude was shooting in the ground from spawn and I saw the entire map till the first scan dead

strange junco
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hes really mad judging from what he says in the cheat

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chat*

fringe surge
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Kek

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I proceeded to use the sniper rifle

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expedition failed

strange junco
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let me send the image in media

fringe surge
strange junco
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funny how he didnt use health cheat

fringe surge
fresh bronze
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what is the quadrant lockdown in c3

strange junco
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how long is the timer

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if its 20 minutes its the amount of time until extraction zone door opens

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if its the other i think its before the waves start spawning

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dont precisely remember because i dont play c3 that often

fresh bronze
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its not 20 minutes

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so we need to speedrun basically

strange junco
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well you need to get to the armory, fill up your gear, open up the door and do some shit before the 20 minute timer

fresh bronze
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it was like 12 or 13 minutes kek

strange junco
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yea i think thats the wave timer after you do the terminal for main

alpine spindle
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You have to sneak, stock up, and return to the checkpoint door by the end of the timer

tough totem
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sneak?

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I would never sneak in C3

fresh bronze
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?

fresh bronze
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bro what the fuck

fringe surge
fresh bronze
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i just watched someone solo melee a charger scout

fringe surge
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What kind of fucking melee dmg booster

fresh bronze
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none

fringe surge
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W h a t

fresh bronze
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i know its not a cheater aswell since he is a long time team member and is to dumb to cheat

fringe surge
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No melee hould 1 tap a charger scout in the back

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Spear would take like 1 full charge and 1 half?

fresh bronze
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he managed to hit it a second time before it screamed

fringe surge
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Spear?

strange junco
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scout has 60 hp right

fringe surge
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66

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Iirc

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Or was it 65

fresh bronze
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hammer

strange junco
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wiki says 60

fringe surge
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Huh

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Damn,wrong I am

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But still
Thats 44 for the first bonk

strange junco
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so probably 50% after while he was stunned

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still staggered

fringe surge
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But the stagger is like 0.4 seconds,no?

strange junco
fringe surge
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Yea the stagger time is pretty short

strange junco
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its something i have to test myself

fringe surge
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Half a hammer charge in that time

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Mmm

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Well this is something I'm keen to get feedback on

fresh bronze
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you can fucking stagger a scout?

fringe surge
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Yes?

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You can kill regular scouts with stuff like the dmr and hel rev

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Cuz I think enough stagger will buy you 0.4-0.5 seconds(citation needed) of time

fresh bronze
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i have never seen a scout get staggered before

fringe surge
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They dont seem much different

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But it's quite a smoll timeframes

tame cloak
fringe surge
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Yea

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Say even if he got 0.5 seconds of time
Half charging a hammer should take longer

strange junco
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not at laptop rn so i cant test it

fringe surge
tame cloak
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Maybe a huuuge amount of desync

fringe surge
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^

fresh bronze
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he is host

fringe surge
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Bruh

strange junco
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ill probably drop to d2 and test it out

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or you guys can go ahead and test it first

fringe surge
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@me if it isnt too much trouble

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My gaeming setup is not with me atm

tame cloak
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Best I could see is getting the hit in then switch to a special weapon and shooting in the small grace period

fringe surge
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Charger scouts wont die to dmr or hel rev

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Normal will

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Pretty sure you know this

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But I'll say it still

strange junco
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well u guys can go to d2 and test it out

fresh bronze
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i have failed many a charger kill at this point and i have never seen them get stunned except this one time

strange junco
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its cscout haven anyway

tame cloak
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Need to get out of bed

fresh bronze
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it fell down and he smacked its ass if that helps

fringe surge
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Pcs at home

strange junco
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in class

tame cloak
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Oh so the charger actually staggered instead of stopping

fringe surge
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Or does it

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Wait

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Ladder fall animation counts?

tame cloak
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That's really weird

fresh bronze
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it was on a slope and it did the tripping and falling animation which is a few seconds

fringe surge
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Your friend is finding a new way to break scouts

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Fantastic

strange junco
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so basically stagger anim

fresh bronze
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i missed my swing and he hit his

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i assumed we where fucked but he somehow landed a killing blow a second or two later

strange junco
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i need to try this out

fringe surge
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Ok that's a bit too much time for regular stagger

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Wonk ass game

strange junco
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lol

tame cloak
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Yeah scouts don't have stagger states until they're running around attacking

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So I think

fringe surge
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Dont they when you do sufficient dmg?

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Ive seen people 3 tap regular scouts in the occiput with a hel rev
Or some people just mash the revolver into the back of a charger scout

strange junco
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cscout has 5 stagger hp

tame cloak
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Maybe you missed your hit, but touched the scout directly, and then your friend hit
Within the trigger grace period, the stagger state is enabled again, and your friend got the hit in

strange junco
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im just reading off wiki right now

fringe surge
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That's exactly enough for 1 full charged hammer or no charge bat

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Hm

tame cloak
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Yeah if it has 5 then 100% its disabled during scouting

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Cause they don't flinch when you mess up

fringe surge
strange junco
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so basically you have to hit it while its walking around

tame cloak
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Yeah, I'm not sure

strange junco
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then hammer it again during stagger period

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i dont know

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its something that you have to test it out yourself rather than figure it out on paper

fringe surge
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Only in gtfo

fresh bronze
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c3 first charger scout past the main bulkhead door is where it happened

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i have no clue

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gtfo wacky af

fringe surge
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Isnt it always

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no it wasnt,r5 was surprisingly stable

strange junco
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just test it

fringe surge
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Well the only who can

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Is ingame

fresh bronze
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nah i aint testing right now

fringe surge
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Still tho
Mad respect for c3 duo attempt

tame cloak
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Maybe I'll test in a bit

fresh bronze
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im still playing with my boy

fringe surge
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That level was aids enough with main and overload with 4 people

strange junco
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well you could just cfoam tripmine every giant

fresh bronze
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doing main as a duo kek

fringe surge
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Yes

strange junco
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thats what tnenpi did in c3 solo anyways

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just cfoam tripmine every giant

fringe surge
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Didnt he just stack giants?

strange junco
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i dont remember most part

tame cloak
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He did

fringe surge
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I remember seeing like 20 giants or sum shit in his video

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Fatasses couldn't catch up

strange junco
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yea they’re slow

fringe surge
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I will say they are surprisingly fast

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For their size

tame cloak
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Clearing most of sec to have a lot of kiting ground

fringe surge
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You dont expect it sometimes

fringe surge
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Just stay away from that horrible blood door

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It's not good for you

strange junco
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blood door

fringe surge
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The ones with the enemies behind em

strange junco
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i know

fringe surge
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What does the community call em?

strange junco
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i just forgot what i was gonna say after that

fringe surge
#

Lmao

strange junco
#

shit stained door

fringe surge
#

Bruh

strange junco
#

someone had a bad diarrhea

#

now that i speak of it it reminds me of horrible school toilets

fringe surge
fresh bronze
#

honestly think we are just gonna call it a night

alpine spindle
fringe surge
#

Overload will let you extract even if you didnt finish the objective for it

alpine spindle
#

if doing overload after 2nd overload terminal uplink you get snatcher

fringe surge
#

The first few rooms are absolutely loaded with supplies

alpine spindle
#

tank spawns after extraction door opens

strange junco
#

c3 snatcher ptsd

fringe surge
#

Theres also a charger wave but apparently they're so slow they never make it by the time you evac

fresh bronze
#

not concerned we are only doing c3 main for fun not to beat it

strange junco
#

decides to snatch me doing extract scan instead of 3 people guarding the extract room

fringe surge
#

Kek

#

Never had a teammate get snatched in c3

strange junco
#

it slipped past 3 guys and went straight for me doing the scan

fringe surge
#

Tho I do recall downing the snatched guy when 3 people decide to just hose lmg fire at the thing

alpine spindle
#

i only do pe Scout

fringe surge
alpine spindle
#

so if there is a normal c3 lobby i wont join

fringe surge
#

Ive done 3pes for c3
Fuck that experience

alpine spindle
#

or c2

#

or b3

fringe surge
#

C2 pe kinda gets lame

alpine spindle
#

too long

strange junco
#

c2 pe

fresh bronze
#

b3 pe was fun at the end

alpine spindle
#

c3 pe my favorite level

fresh bronze
#

the beginning of it is kinda meh

strange junco
#

b3 sec

fringe surge
#

The extreme was a joke
The overload the fog route was spitter hell

#

B3 pe was great fun

strange junco
#

not fond of b3 ext

fringe surge
#

I just appreciated d2,simplistic rail shooter

fresh bronze
#

b3 sec was really bad imo

fringe surge
#

Bust out the sniper rifle

#

B3 extreme was weird for me

fresh bronze
#

it wasnt hard at all and honestly made overload way easier since it gave so much resources

strange junco
#

imagine hel gun in d2

fringe surge
#

It was either I was in mint condition for the extreme or dead

strange junco
#

you just line up and blew the shit out of the entire line

fringe surge
#

Dude hel rigle

#

Rifle*

fresh bronze
#

i just wish b3 had less escorting 2 assholes carrying heavy items at the end kek

fringe surge
#

Everything dies

#

Everything just fucking dies

strange junco
#

i feel like fog turbine plays a role during extraction

fringe surge
#

We win these

strange junco
#

if the guy holding it cant position themselves correctly you’re just as good as going in blind

fringe surge
#

I just memorized the path back

fresh bronze
fringe surge
#

With bots it was down to melee
With players it was the 2 guys escorting had absolutely no ammo

strange junco
#

i had a run where we did b3 but ran out of med supplies

#

so the team just was against doing overload

alpine spindle
#

played b3 pe last night with first timers and surprisingly we did well no checkpoint 80%+ ammo left

strange junco
#

could just tripmine, sentry and then pull the room

fringe surge
#

People really tend to fall off the bridge near evac when returning

#

Its

#

Funny

fresh bronze
#

when we did our pe run we had enough to cap all hp and ammo and tool with some extra

strange junco
#

havent seen a party that fell off during extract yet

fresh bronze
#

the amount of resources we got was way to much

fringe surge
#

Absolutely

#

Fantastic

real moss
strange junco
#

bruh

fresh bronze
alpine spindle
#

which?

strange junco
#

b3 sec giving no supplies in the first few rooms

fringe surge
#

For me the amount of ammo was always:justenoughTM in half the levels

fresh bronze
#

only when we went in blind tho

#

otherwise its always been way more than enough

tough totem
#

the ammo given is I think on track for new players figuring out what to do

fresh bronze
#

or in the case of c3 beginning fuck you its hammer time

tough totem
#

for experience people that mapped out the whole rundown and how to do everything most efficiently, there will be excess resources

fringe surge
#

Inb4 it turns out e1 had excessive amounts of ammo and I'm just bad for being super low at the time

real moss
strange junco
#

you’re gonna be overloaded with ammo given that you dont mess up stealth

alpine spindle
#

even going in blind i had plenty of resources

fringe surge
#

I'm always doing really well with ammo or piss poorly

#

Theres no centre

fresh bronze
#

as long as we didnt have some dumbass running extremely ammo hungry weapons we almost never have ammo problems

#

our problems almost always come from chip damage of hp

real moss
strange junco
#

there are plenty of lobbies where they manage to fuck up stealth for most part we have barely enough for alarms

real moss
#

but then it is pretty easy to NOT miss a code 😅

fringe surge
#

Code 4 got us killed alot

#

Or code 3

tough totem
#

pub-optimised levels means extra ammo bc not everyone plays the same

strange junco
#

code 4 requires you running back

fringe surge
#

Back and forth

tough totem
#

some people are ammo starved constantly

fringe surge
#

I hated that code

fresh bronze
fringe surge
#

I could manage the first 3 codes but on the way back
Fuck my life something always woke up

strange junco
#

people messing up because they cant control long range aggro

fresh bronze
#

been plenty of times my group accidentally woke up 4+ giants/hybrids and still managed to get out without guns or taking that much damage

alpine spindle
#

more like people tripping scouts when you're soloing code and fucking you up

tough totem
#

real

alpine spindle
#

I had that happen to me once when I had the code

fringe surge
#

Then I just grabbed a hel shotgun and decided stealth is for good players and held m1 to stun the reactor waves

real moss
strange junco
#

i usually go with the guy getting 4th code

strange junco
#

just to step on the scout room so it doesnt respawn

alpine spindle
#

don't ask me what they were doing

#

they were doing them

#

I was doing code

fringe surge
#

I played with someone polarkneecaps? Or sumthin
He did the stealth for the 4th code

#

My second e1 clear
God bless that man

strange junco
#

yea i also had a guy who can stealth code 4

fringe surge
#

I panic too much while going for the 4th one

#

First 3 is fine

strange junco
#

i just had to step in scout room on his way back

real moss
alpine spindle
#

I think it was cfoam guy who tried coming with me and tripping the scout

fresh bronze
#

i was getting a second or so ping today and still we where managing to time our swings and not set off charger scouts

alpine spindle
#

I was bio

fringe surge
#

2 clear 2 go back

#

C-foam and bio went back iirc

alpine spindle
#

Honestly 1 guy can solo all

strange junco
#

i usually wait until like last 10 seconds until putting in the code

fringe surge
#

clearing the charger room with a knife was real fucking interesting

alpine spindle
#

That's what I did when I was a mini tour guide

fringe surge
#

Also,based tom Clancy's ghost pfp

fresh bronze
real moss
alpine spindle
fringe surge
real moss
#

Bio continues alone from that point

fringe surge
#

The entrie team was like "oh no"

fresh bronze
fringe surge
#

Kek

strange junco
fresh bronze
#

i charged through 4 rooms of invis smalls and cleared them without stopping my sprint

strange junco
#

early games are cool

fresh bronze
#

missed one head shot sadge

strange junco
#

later games are wack

alpine spindle
#

Yea I'm talking about the early games

fringe surge
#

I enjoyed future soldier

alpine spindle
#

I got the Wii version man

#

That's how old I'm talking about

fringe surge
#

I played advanced warfare on the fucking PSP

alpine spindle
#

^^^

strange junco
#

future soldier is fun but i like open world more

fringe surge
#

Fun times

fresh bronze
#

i dislike shadow giants

#

of all enemies they give me the most trouble

fringe surge
#

The running ones are just cringe

#

Oh hey there
Punts the entire team into oblivion

fresh bronze
#

i can deal with basically everything but those pricks melee exluding some of autisticly overly high hp enemies

fringe surge
#

Shooters are dumb

alpine spindle
#

shooters are bulliable though

strange junco
#

you need like 12 mines to kill a tank

alpine spindle
#

they are fun

fringe surge
#

12 mines?

alpine spindle
#

7

fringe surge
strange junco
#

not sure if it was 12

fringe surge
#

The big variants are a joke

alpine spindle
#

it's 7 guarantee

fresh bronze
#

i have had a whole team wiped by a invis giant multiple times just because the bastard turns into a beyblade and turns us into mince meat

alpine spindle
#

6 is borderline

fringe surge
#

Hybrids too

strange junco
#

i watched someone streaming spamming mines for d2

alpine spindle
#

yea

fringe surge
#

Wait

#

How would a mine kill the tank?

#

Back dmg?

alpine spindle
#

if you pull tank room you place 7

fresh bronze
#

no one notices em till he kills us

strange junco
#

he just slapped like 10 mines

alpine spindle
#

10 is a waste of time

fringe surge
#

Cuz the armour infront should negate everything

alpine spindle
#

nah

#

you place it on the wall of the door

#

pull room

#

it'll face you coming out

#

mines hit bubbles

#

dead

fringe surge
#

Ah

alpine spindle
#

7 mines is all it takes

fringe surge
#

We put them on the roof

#

Fantastic

alpine spindle
#

if i'm not mistaken tho 7 mines anywhere kills it

strange junco
#

well he used up entire 4 use tool after placing like almost full mine deployer

alpine spindle
#

not sure

fresh bronze
#

just poke the tank with your knife

strange junco
#

so it was like over 10

fresh bronze
#

its only over 100 stabs to kill em

fringe surge
#

I remember for r6 d1
We used like 20 mines on the fucking door and the tank just cha cha real smoothed right through em

tough totem
#

we need more multi-big enemy segments

#

3 tanks when?

fringe surge
#

Please no

alpine spindle
#

just played d2

fringe surge
#

2 was enough

alpine spindle
#

we pulled every room

fresh bronze
#

i strongly disagree

fringe surge
#

Every room

#

Bruh

tough totem
#

I want 3 at once

alpine spindle
#

so we dealt with like 5 tanks

#

2 and 2

tough totem
#

rad

alpine spindle
#

then pulled mother

fringe surge
#

I cant imagine dealing with mothers

alpine spindle
#

so try that

#

you'll have fun

#

we certainly did

fringe surge
#

I've handled 4 tanks in d2 at once cuz peak spawn locations

#

But not more than that

fresh bronze
#

they take way to much damage to kill to be fun in more than groups of 2

alpine spindle
#

just do d2 pe

fringe surge
alpine spindle
#

trust

#

d2 pe is fun

fringe surge
#

Ofc

#

But still how do you manage the mothers in the already humungous horde

alpine spindle
#

easy

#

cfoam tripmines

fresh bronze
#

just a fucking game of baiting him so someone else can light his ass up over and over again till he dies

fringe surge
#

Like theres the pmom too right?

alpine spindle
#

yea

fringe surge
#

There were c-foam tripmines

#

Oh yea

alpine spindle
#

cfoam tripmines

fringe surge
#

Fuckin hell

#

Yea we never used those for the tank segments

alpine spindle
#

always push tank and mine

#

if you do only 1 door

#

only way to do it SleeperBonk

fringe surge
#

For us it was just bait it so I could light it up with a sniper

#

And repeat

alpine spindle
#

nahhhh that's no fun

#

choke mod + cfoam + push

fringe surge
#

or just melee 2 tanks to death like in e1

#

never again

fringe surge
fresh bronze
#

the tank at the end of d1 caught my group off gaurd and it killed the 2 people at the center terminal

alpine spindle
#

really anything goes

#

if you push and cfoam and all 4 people shoot = dead

fresh bronze
#

def was not ready for a tank after using so much resources

fringe surge
fringe surge
#

It showed up
And then died

#

3 hours of bug induced frustration and cartography at the end boosted our performance

fresh bronze
#

it took us over a minute of me and another guy playing peak a boo to kill it

fresh bronze
fringe surge
#

Dude half of us had opened ms paint
The other half drew the map on paper

fresh bronze
#

exactly what we did

tame cloak
fringe surge
#

Were you in r6,sub?

fresh bronze
#

we had 2 people going out to terminals and we had 2 people defend the bridge

#

yeah but i didnt finish r6

#

didnt even get close

tame cloak
#

I used to have a screenshot of the map and writing the numbers next to their positions

fresh bronze
#

fps was way to bad to be fun at that point

tame cloak
#

Now I have a better system

strange junco
#

i use this method

fringe surge
#

We had a moment in c3 pe where me and my buddy shot 2 blasts of a scattergun onto a sleeping tank and it just fell over,dead

strange junco
#

1 left 1 right 1 mid 1 bridge

#

numbers noted in chat

tame cloak
#

Sleeping tank in C3?

strange junco
#

if code is on right, left side comes to mid

fringe surge
#

Yknow when you open the sec door and the tanks asleep for a second or so

fresh bronze
#

idk if my group is just autistic or something but we literally cannot kill a tank without using a ton of resources

tame cloak
#

I know there's a tank at the end that 90% of the time never reach extract

strange junco
#

if code is on mid, mid go gets the terminal, and one side comes confirm

fringe surge
#

We just had 1 code runner and 1 who had to enter em

alpine spindle
#

the area terminal/spawn-canceling method

fresh bronze
#

yeah we had 2 code runners in case the code runner got downed

strange junco
#

we had 3 code runners, but whoevers not running for code just runs back to bridge

fresh bronze
#

and we had 2 on the bridge

alpine spindle
#

it's the most efficient way

fringe surge
alpine spindle
#

one in left, one in right, one in mid, one defend

#

sat's strat

fresh bronze
#

dont like spawn cancelling

strange junco
#

yea

fringe surge
#

It was kinda frustrating when the code runner got snatched

fresh bronze
#

if i can avoid a cheese method im not gonna do it

alpine spindle
fringe surge
#

Area cancelling didnt work even if we tried

alpine spindle
#

to cover terminal area

fringe surge
#

The wave spawned in the zone I was in

fresh bronze
alpine spindle
#

it's not strictly necessary

fresh bronze
#

they spawned in front of the code runner 2/4 times

fringe surge
#

One second:room empty
I turn around to see a snatcher barreling down on me

alpine spindle
#

does make it easier to get in the code faster

fresh bronze
#

i dont like cheesing a game designed to be hard

#

takes the piss

alpine spindle
#

speedrun wise that's probably the most efficient you can get

#

it's not cheese tho

strange junco
#

bridge defender already has 2 sniper sentries accompanying him

fringe surge
#

Surprisingly one code runner worked well

strange junco
#

so it the guy wasnt overloaded with enemies

alpine spindle
#

sometimes they still spawn even if youre in the area

fringe surge
#

Tho remembering where each and every terminal was kinda hard

alpine spindle
#

so it ain't cheese

fresh bronze
#

abusing spawn mechanics is literally cheese

tame cloak
#

I just run for every code, so that the confirm guy can be defended and never interrupted

strange junco
alpine spindle
#

^

tame cloak
#

I just deal with everything coming my way

fringe surge
#

^

#

Lmg

#

Fire

alpine spindle
strange junco
#

put the furthest terminal on first then closest terminal on last

fresh bronze
alpine spindle
#

they will still spawn in left terminal area

#

so

#

where's the cheese?

fringe surge
#

Flawless code run

fresh bronze
#

your abusing a game mechanic to get a advantage

fringe surge
#

Thars what I call,redundancy

alpine spindle
#

there is no advantage

#

the advantage we are getting is getting codes faster

fresh bronze
#

i mean play how you like but at the end of the day your cheesing

alpine spindle
#

???

strange junco
#

i remember my terminals like this

#

(terminal number) then a letter indicating which side of mid

fresh bronze
#

aint gonna restate myself more than 3 times

alpine spindle
#

me neither

strange junco
#

ie 475L

#

557B

fresh bronze
#

lemme find the map i drew in paint

strange junco
#

774T

#

so i can find terminals easier

fringe surge
#

Thats a smart way to do it
We did it kinda stupid
We just memorised the 6 in the adjacent zones
Anything that wasnt one of those 6 was in the middle

strange junco
#

the letters just say which side it is

fringe surge
fresh bronze
strange junco
#

left, right, back, top

fresh bronze
#

i just x out rooms without a terminal

strange junco
#

for middl

fringe surge
#

Phenomenal

alpine spindle
#

we just have each person in their respective zones memorize their terminals

#

that way you minimize waves and stamina

fringe surge
#

Ive only had 1 d1 clear and that was with post nerf overload

alpine spindle
#

being ready on terminal is better than running to and back

fringe surge
#

And that's the only D1 clear I need

#

Fuck that levels bugs

fresh bronze
#

drawing a map only took around 15 minutes total

#

was easily worth it

fringe surge
#

Whatever method
We got the W

fresh bronze
#

no regrets on that, fuck memorizing numbers and shit

tame cloak
fresh bronze
#

im not playing a fucking action game to memorize codes and locations

alpine spindle
#

yikes

fringe surge
#

I will admit my first E1 run was with door bug so I kinda decided for a redemption arc no cheese E1 run

strange junco
#

ive used the same method since my first clear lol

#

my local language gtfo discord doesnt allow cheese in any form so

fresh bronze
#

i can just edit my map if i play it again

strange junco
#

all runs are legit :p

fringe surge
#

Same

fresh bronze
#

delete terminals and redo them

fringe surge
#

Now atleast

fresh bronze
#

the long part was drawing the rooms out

fringe surge
#

I dont know how u doorbug cheese

#

But hey

#

Whoever did it

#

Nice timing I guess

alpine spindle
#

they patched half of it

#

you can still do it, but what's the fun in that?

fringe surge
#

Yea

#

The level was actually really fun normally

alpine spindle
#

no it wasnt lmao

fringe surge
#

For me it was

alpine spindle
#

4 player game to 3 player is sure fun

fringe surge
#

The first half was aids

#

The other half not so much

strange junco
#

“but, it was never fixed, so i suspect, it was working, as intended

fringe surge
#

Shrug

fresh bronze
#

ive enjoyed every level except d1 so far this rd

#

d1 was a broken mess

fringe surge
#

Dude
Fuck b2

alpine spindle
#

e1 is just stupid

fringe surge
#

It was so long

strange junco
#

b2

fresh bronze
#

b2 was long but it was fun

strange junco
#

yea

#

sort of

fringe surge
#

It wasnt even that fun

tame cloak
#

d1 without bugs would be really nice, I like d1

fringe surge
#

I felt like a corpse by the end of extreme

fresh bronze
#

i hated the fog the first couple clears but i stopped minding it once i got used to it

fringe surge
strange junco
#

until you get bullshit terminal placement for second uplink

alpine spindle
#

eh

tame cloak
#

B2 ugh I've done it waaay too much

fringe surge
#

Terminal placements were pretty easy all around tho

alpine spindle
#

which terminal is the shit one?

fresh bronze
#

i got that terminal 4/5 clears

strange junco
#

all my b2 runs are always the 3 door one

alpine spindle
#

cause both to me are fine

fringe surge
#

The one in fog I suppose?

strange junco
#

for second terminal

fringe surge
#

Yea that one is really simple

fresh bronze
#

that terminal is worse in every fucking way

alpine spindle
#

i actually like that one

strange junco
#

i never got the easier terminal

alpine spindle
#

the fog 3 door one

strange junco
#

its always the fog 3 door one

alpine spindle
#

it's pretty simple

fringe surge
strange junco
#

i know

fresh bronze
#

you can get 1 outside of fog with 1 door or one in fog with 3 doors

#

perfectly balanced

alpine spindle
#

you only cfoam and mine 3 doors

#

for that oone

strange junco
#

i had all doors mined and foamed while i quickly do the uplink

alpine spindle
#

and those doors are the ones coming into the terminal

#

not around

fresh bronze
#

i never brough cfoam to b2

strange junco
#

since the numbers are thinned out the mines just cleared everyone

fresh bronze
#

mines was plenty

#

cfoam was overkill

alpine spindle
#

i brought cfoam, sniper sentry, bio, mines

#

clears waves easy

fringe surge
#

I would play e1 again if pablo wasnt so boring
It doesnt say much about enemy design when I just enter in a staring contest with him,go and make dinner,and return to him still stuck there

alpine spindle
#

continuously cfoam for 1st terminal

fresh bronze
#

biotracker and 2 burst sentries was only necessary for the last class 5 alarm and the second invis alarm in sec

strange junco
#

would be nice if pablo was more physically unique

#

and not just albino tumorless tank