You technically don't even need PE for cosmetic unlocks, it's literally just bragging rights
#gtfo-spoiler-chat
half hornet
fallow wasp
Surprised I managed to find a team good enough to beat B3PE without the green sticker of shame
severe obsidian
green sticker of shame?
fallow wasp
Checkpoints
fallow wasp
There’s no real shame in having to use checkpoints, but I just call it that
half hornet
Depends. They can't pull off advanced tactics, and micro-managing their tool use is a hindrance, but they are good shots and they work amazing with Bio Tracker in particular tracking the absolute shit out of anything that moves
fallow wasp
Prior to rundown 6, checkpoints did not exist
severe obsidian
Prior to rundown 6, checkpoints did not exist
ohhhhh okay
severe obsidian
Depends. They can't pull off advanced tactics, and micro-managing their tool use...
yeah my friend and i noticed their bio tracker play was insane
fallow wasp
Levels had the ability to be 3 hour slogfests where you could die at the very end and have to redo everything
severe obsidian
and yeah i saw people complaining about checkpoints lmao
fallow wasp
But it was kinda fun at times, really made you feel like a good team for beating it
half hornet
i think that element is still there, you just don't waste the entire 3 hours after dying to 99% extraction scan
severe obsidian
i think checkpoints are at least a good option to have, cause these days have been pretty damn busy, I really get freedom from like 10pm-1am
can't imagine how much more gruelling it would be if we had to redo the entire level every time lmao
i get the appeal of no checkpoints tho
after I clear the rest of the game might go for a no checkpoint run, but till then im taking every advantage i can get lmao
tame cloak
that's the spirit !
real moss
I would say C3PE is harder than B3PE.
fallow wasp
C2PE is gross
real moss
C2PE is just the overload. sec is a joke 😅
tame cloak
C2PE can be sort of nullified with infection resist booster
boosterless is a different story tho
real moss
C2PE can be sort of nullified with infection resist booster
Never use boosters : /
tame cloak
I don't want to bother with infection i've been collecting resist booster just so that I can run C2 a few more times in the future 
real moss
C2PE is just the overload. sec is a joke 😅
A cool joke btw, but a joke
real moss
I don't want to bother with infection i've been collecting resist booster just s...
I want to do the levels clean. Without advantage. So I never use boosters. If you could dish them out. I would give them away
tame cloak
C3 overload is actually good for main
tame cloak
I want to do the levels clean. Without advantage. So I never use boosters. If yo...
I agree they're not absolutely necessary
I just like comfort sometimes
I mostly play without
fallow wasp
E1 is egregious without someone using provisions
tame cloak
this too
Satisfying to reach the nursery without boosters and with everyone capped (and bringing stuff)
happened only once
But that was with teleport cheese
fallow wasp
What unholy train of events led to respawn rooms that bring the scouts back
half hornet
It's here just to annoy you
Well, that is technically what overloads do too, yeah.
It's like - you already have your hands full with survival and now you have to do something else while at it? And it does seem to increase the intensity of hordes as well. I believe main only doesn't spawn any snatchers, nor chargers.
tame cloak
There is one charger in main at the 5min mark I think
snatcher* sorry
secondary brings darkness and shadows to the alarm
half hornet
Which is unusual, they don't usually do that...
Almost makes me think that objectives were supposed to be swapped
tame cloak
switching it up a little is cool
half hornet
But then people would probably be like "huh, that was so easy for an overload..."
tame cloak
maybe overload adds charger and snatchers to the alarm I'm not sure
half hornet
I never beaten it with overload so i don't know, but i'm fairly certain that this would be the case
tame cloak
but staying in main for the whole 20 min in C3 feels actually harder, so now I'd take overload over nothing, even if only partially (not going for the uplinks, just for the resources)
half hornet
That does seem to be a fair concern, yeah...
Remind me, do you need to get a bulkhead key out of overload after doing it?...
tame cloak
you don't
half hornet
Huh, really?
So you literally can just opon the zone, loot it, but not touch the terminals? Fascinating
kind swan
depends how ammo efficient your team can be for 20mins
or if ya'll brought supply efficiency
fringe surge
C3 pe without boosters
Aka 20% ammo is the only ammo until you yet an ammopack
Main+overload is fun
Secondary is ehhhh
Too dark
real moss
What unholy train of events led to respawn rooms that bring the scouts back
R5D1 already had them. And E1 without boosters is very doable
fringe surge
Was it r5 B1 which had the hisec cargo crate alarm
Or a2?
Whichever
The all lights out extreme for that was real aids
fringe surge
No,you grab the cargo crate and make ur back to evac
real moss
Was it r5 B1 which had the hisec cargo crate alarm
Was talking about the scouts respawning in respawn zones
fringe surge
Ahh
digital dawn
then a2 yeah
real moss
ut Hi sec cargo was R5A2
real moss
Aka panic seeing a mother
That's why R5A2 is such a great troll level
real moss
I would like to confess I was one of those who thought the hel gun was ass in r5
Can we have a ban please !!!!!!
fringe surge
plucky breach
speedrun
obtuse scaffold
E1 is egregious without someone using provisions
As annoying as it is atleast jeffs ai is pretty easy to control
fallow wasp
Mainly just the ammo drain at the reactor is what I mald about
it's absolutely doable
subtle dagger
whos jeff 🤨
obtuse surge
the scout wave giant spawns inside of me ahaha
its a feature guys !!
the players are too spread out!
for sure
twin dirge
"C3 is too hard"
kind swan
Me telling new players B1 is just the tip of the iceberg.
plucky breach
"C3 is too hard"
Lmao
obtuse surge
current state of the game: i took a break just to take a shower
plucky breach
Lmao
plush basin
im on c3 rn, we got two bots, any tips for the final stretch??
are you doing overload?
jagged canyon
are you doing overload?
no, we tried but secondary will have to do for this run
since we arent, should we bother with the blood door for resources or nah?
plush basin
Well then there are a few side zones with plenty of resources, have one guy defend in the first room with a couple of the bots and have the other delve into the zone to collect resources. You're basically just killing time so you don't need to rush
Going in the blood door for resources is a perfectly reasonable option
you don't need to, but if you find you are running out of ammo or tool then its a good idea
gloomy flame
you can also open the overload sector to get more resources, don't have to do the terminal uplinks
since you aren't trying to beat overload, you can use it for it's resources, has a 5 use ammo in
plucky breach
im on c3 rn, we got two bots, any tips for the final stretch??
um
what ethan said
and ellda
C3 isn't easy to deal with
final stretch is just book it to the extraction point
jagged canyon
you can also open the overload sector to get more resources, don't have to do th...
that could be what we're missing actually
plucky breach
once u get to the door put down some sentries
yeah
we were so full on resources
we overcapped
a lot
jagged canyon
Well then there are a few side zones with plenty of resources, have one guy defe...
thanks for the tips
jagged canyon
once u get to the door put down some sentries
our bots have the sentries and they looove not going through doors
70% of our failed runs were just our bots running to ping a resource crate with glowsticks in them instead of getting behind a door
jagged canyon
i think it's better to lfg rather than use bots
yeah i think youre right at this point\
idk how t-nepi does it
plucky breach
imo it's always been that way
nocturne flax
70% of our failed runs were just our bots running to ping a resource crate with ...
Love it when you see it
real moss
Love it when you see it
And then we have miracle Child finishing the game with bots in 7.6 hours. How can people say playing with bots is hard????
nocturne flax
And then we have miracle Child finishing the game with bots in 7.6 hours. How ca...
Cuz everything 10cc adds its inconsistent
😔
Im surprise they didnt patch tbst to be honest
It would happend in r6c3 so often
And now it happens in a lot more places like kn r7d2 and c3
obtuse surge
its just random with bots
its random without bots too
but we are elitist and we dont care when the game is significantly harder on one run than another
tough totem
And then we have miracle Child finishing the game with bots in 7.6 hours. How ca...
one of my bots has old rundown stuff(can't change), one never brings anything(can't change, doesn't even have a melee), and one never shows up(on any screen where bots should be)
obtuse surge
just delete the file
tough totem
maybe
obtuse surge
botfavorites
tough totem
but bots also make me lonely
real moss
one of my bots has old rundown stuff(can't change), one never brings anything(ca...
I was talking about something else entirely
tough totem
idk, I just got here
real moss
you missed something earlier today. the second coming of christ
tough totem
amen
obtuse surge
he sure did come
fresh bronze
For d1 overload are pouncers wave based or have set spasn points
twin dirge
wave based, every 5 minutes iirc
fresh bronze
Ahh shit thats rough but fun as hell
kind swan
Wasnt it every 2 minutes?
fresh bronze
That sounds more accurate to what i was experiencing
tame cloak
more around 4 minutes, but the timer doesn't wait for the previous one to die
obtuse cedar
Just hunt Them. Then you got plenty of Time Do to whatever you need
twin dirge
unless it's double spawn glitch
real moss
It is every 4 minutes ya dingusses
obtuse surge
i keep resetting until i get 4 snatchers
royal lichen
4 snatcher d1 overload, solo, hitless. u the 👑 sir.
7google how to deep clean tongue
oops
real moss
7google how to deep clean tongue
poor choice of search terms
obtuse surge
4 snatcher d1 overload, solo, hitless. u the 👑 sir.
NO KITING
royal lichen
still smh w your r5 hitless'es plural. damn.
plucky breach
Favorite bot is dauda
Anyway
This was fun
Difficult
I don’t wanna do this again
Any strats for E1 Room Scan
obtuse surge
a lot of people just keep foaming the door
but if you dont wanna do that then just try to kill snatcher fast, have someone in the back with immortal and then the rest can shoot chargers
can use your tools to make the waves more doable
alpine spindle
If you run without cfoam, a popular loadout is 3 sniper sentries
deals with the waves
twin dirge
yeah three people defend and one wrangles Pablo
real moss
yeah three people defend and one wrangles Pablo
has a stare contest with pablo*
obtuse cedar
is it a stare contest when you alt tab and do something else while occupying him 🤔
kind swan
is it a stare contest when you alt tab and do something else while occupying him...
Imean this is possible technically
fringe surge
Considering he gets stuck on nothing sometimes while u look at him through glass
I've gone and made dinner and returned to him just standing there
¯_(ツ)_/¯
real moss
I've gone and made dinner and returned to him just standing there
At least you made him dinner
fringe surge
Kek
fallow wasp
Finally beat E1, and without a supply efficiency on the team at that
real moss
Finally beat E1, and without a supply efficiency on the team at that
cause boosters are overrated
fallow wasp
I managed to make it needlessly difficult by screwing up code one by typing reacotr_verx01.log
real moss
I managed to make it needlessly difficult by screwing up code one by typing reac...
even better
you know for sure now
now to E1 once more so you are sure it was not luck
fallow wasp
It was a funny mad dash to the finish because I was the only one with ammo left, the tank was still alive, and the chargers weren’t dead
real moss
It was a funny mad dash to the finish because I was the only one with ammo left,...
sounds like a great time
fallow wasp
I was also taught a new trick for the alpha one segment
eternal dragon
That’s so cool! What’s the new trick??
real moss
That’s so cool! What’s the new trick??
a new door trick 🤣
eternal dragon
eternal dragon
hexed vapor
dire forge
hello ! quick question in case anyone have an answer, i'm on B1 and i'm supposed to get a "collection case" to get to area 95, i got the collection case after looking for it for quite a bit, and the mission didn't update so i have no idea where to drop it, mission say:
" door to zone 95 is locked. shuttlebox located nearby.
-> locate the collection case in zone 93"
except i have said collection box in my hands :')
obtuse cedar
there is a green crystal thaat you should see
dire forge
so, if anyone know if i'm missing something, or how i can solve that, i'd be grateful, i'm 1h30 in with bots and that's not the best feeling xD
dire forge
there is a green crystal thaat you should see
around where, same zone as the case ?
obtuse cedar
like a diamond shape green marker
just look around. it's the same marker as a deployed sentry through walls
dire forge
well, thing is, the only diamond shape green marker i see (unless i drop the collection case, which put a second one on it) is the neonate HSU
obtuse cedar
that's where you need to deliever the collecxion case
azure sedge
around where, same zone as the case ?
left of the door leading to 95
obtuse cedar
oh
dire forge
left of the door leading to 95
yea, that's what i suspected, can't interact with it x) might have just bugged the mission
obtuse cedar
there should be a green diamond marker on the place to put the collection case though
dire forge
OKAY i finally got to drop it by glitching in the wall, which somehow fixed the mission that didn't update x)
didn't have neither the green marker nor the mission objective, game still told me to locate the collection case despite having it in hand
i assume it's because i was tired of looking for it cause pings last for 0,3s and asked a bot to grab it for me, it prob bugged the objective
thanks!!
graceful hedge
are the multiple snatchers spawning in D1 normal, or is it supposed to only be 1?
with the overload
daring pilot
It is a bug
graceful hedge
cheers
obtuse surge
it will be fixed in R8
mortal portal
It will be fixed in Phase 2 
fallow wasp
Bug snatchers? I think the dog snatchers are good enough
We don’t need them buzzing in our ears and taking us away
queen field
Flying snatchers 🗿
real moss
Flying shadows.
real moss
Flying pablo
Flying Pablo is coming. 👍
strange junco
gtfo cats when
amber skiff
tough totem
gtfo cats when
if this game makes me kill cats I'm gonna stop playing :(
west crow
"Pablo"🤓
candid dragon
needs flying spaghetti dogs
kind swan
he walks as twice the speed so u'll have to babysit him at twice the pain
You mean he tpose slides at twice the speed
half hornet
Do you think immortal's behavior was intentional?
kind swan
half hornet
Or did they failed to predict how players would end up countering him?
kind swan
Intentional I imagine
fierce laurel
both
half hornet
Oof... Nah, that's too far.
But he really should take his hive-defending duties more seriously.
half hornet
I brought a +100% regen cap booster when trying E1.
It was the easiest shit to babysit him. I could eat like 3-4 tongue bites in a row.
But it was weirdly hilarious just watching him intimidate you with his lore walk.
kind swan
There's spots you can just sit and stare at him technically
Our friend who babysat him in the beginning just sat there watching tiktoks as we cleared ahead
candid dragon
Immortal was poorly implemented
half hornet
He should fire electrobeams like shockers
west crow
He should not be a reskin of the tank
candid dragon
The fact he runs without los is a nuisance.
west crow
Ah yes I do love this 3 player game
Where 1 person does absolutely nothing
I wonder if people can use the same argument against staring at the immortal that they used against idling in respawn rooms
kind swan
candid dragon
How comes?
since he runs without line of sight,
1 you cant lose him for more than a brief moment
2 he has 100% accuracy with los
3 either everyone has to be mindful of him, or one person needs to juggle
4 beeps comment.
nocturne flax
Imagine if he would eat you
and have you in its stomach
and you have to free your friend
or a special ability where he tongues you grabs you and lift you up
🐸
kind swan
His running/walking is when he's within a certain range of you isnt it?
west crow
and you have to free your friend
Pouncer. Stop trolling. ✋️
west crow
or a special ability where he tongues you grabs you and lift you up
Snatcher 😍😍
kind swan
Snatcher 😍😍
Snatcher eating you and pablo eating you are 2 different things
west crow
"It's called the snatcher" 🤓
kind swan
nocturne flax
west crow
Don't bring this shit up
nocturne flax
🥹
kind swan
west crow
I don't want to watch ulf lie to me straight for 10 minutes
tough totem
"It's called the snatcher" 🤓
"actually according to the wiki it's called the pouncer"🤓
atleast from when I last checked
west crow
Lmao
half hornet
Hey, shocker is an actually cool name.
west crow
METAKNIGHT
half hornet
Don't diss my spicy meatball like that.
tough totem
minecraft steve
kind swan
Snatcher/pouncer fake names.
GOON AND DOG
west crow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2KtTOqq-xk&t=163s
That isn't snatcher
nocturne flax
Shaggy
tough totem
Snatcher/pouncer fake names.
GOON AND DOG
fr it'll always be dog to me
west crow
That's the old tank grab they couldn't get to work
nocturne flax
That's the old tank grab they couldn't get to work
i know
kind swan
Old rundowns hard
west crow
Maybe dont run everything off of client checks lmao
Why does my client side have to ask permission to take damage
kind swan
Modded fixes.
Devs:No
Also devs for problems fixed by mods: Fix hard
west crow
Ulf Anderson
nocturne flax
Old rundowns hard
Shoot gun
mossy marsh
old gtfo builds 🤮
west crow
R3a3 🥴🤤🤤🥵🥵
mossy marsh
where R5A5???????
fierce laurel
we didn't even have four 🤨
hexed vapor
Immortal was poorly implemented
I still think it's mostly a failure of the level design.
The double tank fight is a big non-stealth non-downtime section where immortal dancing person has nothing happening, people don't have to be together, etc.
Obviously, it's just easier to 3/1 split there, so why let that happen and not even have anything else going on on-top of that?
candid dragon
it just reminds me of the tank surge alarm being a better implementation of whatever this E1 was.
honestly, if there wasnt the two tanks, the area might have flown better, but that discards most of, if not most of the difficulty with the floor outright.
its, just, not great overall, yeah.
hexed vapor
I dunno about that, double tank isn't hard unless you can't fight tanks.
And they could have replaced it with something considerably more interesting.
candid dragon
And they could have replaced it with something considerably more interesting.
this is mainly my feeling. yeah 2tv3 players isnt particularly difficult.
neat sluice
Immortal was poorly implemented
Agreed
boreal tendon
i consider the permafoamable contamination scan on so called "E1" much less interesting than 2 tanks
neat sluice
i consider the permafoamable contamination scan on so called "E1" much less inte...
kekw
candid dragon
its just that it feels like it was supposed to be a big deal, and it mainly wasnt. most of the sections before the reactor are just a lot of 'why is this here'
hexed vapor
and will probably never get patched.
tame cloak
fighting instead of foaming is interesting
boreal tendon
at this point I don't think it's bugged
tame cloak
it's all about keeping enemies alive but at bay
boreal tendon
you have to actually specifcally try to set waves to get this shit
candid dragon
honestly smells like when they make these side rooms, they need to make them larger.
not so that you can literally snipe the room door from the other side.
boreal tendon
it's still room scan that has enemies coming from one side
the only gimmick is 3 people shoot, one is watching netflix
hexed vapor
I'd have to look, but if it is spawn points I doubt it's meant to be, and it's entirely possible it's trying to spawn them anywhere but isn't randomizing correctly.
boreal tendon
not sure why would it be set to spawn points instead of normal "2 rooms away from any player" in the first place
candid dragon
i mean, its behind a security door. design wise, its extremely kinda telegraphed.
floor has too many 'why's
obtuse surge
because those side rooms are exactly the distance they wanted
hexed vapor
not sure why would it be set to spawn points instead of normal "2 rooms away fro...
That'd be the only way they could intentionally force them to spawn in a specific side room.
obtuse surge
rather than perhaps a spawn from the elevator
which would take significantly longer to get to you
boreal tendon
oh, that works
hexed vapor
Also possible they're meant to spawn from both side rooms
but they only pick one for some reason.
boreal tendon
just randomly set area distance to 1 like on B1
nocturne flax
Replace 1 of the tanks with a mom 🙂
obtuse surge
i haven't checked but i think the second class X on D1 has that too
errant vigil
They could also just remove the doors on those tiles when an arena is used
obtuse surge
while the lowered doesn't seem to have it
hexed vapor
Not sure about lowered, but class X is def 1 away.
errant vigil
^
nocturne flax
^
hexed vapor
It's a big reason that alarm can be pretty hard.
errant vigil
It's good
hexed vapor
Yeah, that alarm would be p manageable otherwise.
nocturne flax
They gotta redigns floodways tiles
errant vigil
But people are cringe and hate the game being hard when they set spawns to be closer so the enemies don't take years to get to you
obtuse surge
and a bunch of D2 waves have/had like 3/4 room away spawns
errant vigil
R5C1 bridge with that would be a bit more interesting
boreal tendon
helrifle goes brrrt
hexed vapor
The spawn system seems to just bug out sometimes as well.
obtuse surge
hexed vapor
There was an alarm on R3D1 that never spawned in a specific room, despite it being a 2-away conadidate.
and R7B2 first alarm spawns 3 away towards spawn.
Also, R5E1 first surge
spawning 3 away.
Either 3 away or specifically in that one room on the right side.
obtuse surge
i noticed that on B2 recently
hearing a door break when there's no door over there within the usual range
nocturne flax
Either 3 away or specifically in that one room on the right side.
they probabyl did it to fuck you over when doing that class 3 in fog
hexed vapor
I don't think it was intentional, though.
nocturne flax
it makes sense tho
hexed vapor
Seemed like it was just happening of its own accord.
And they couldn't adjust the node distance at the time.
nocturne flax
on b2 they would overwhelm little dauda too quickly if they decided to actually make 2 rooms aways
obtuse surge
D2 spawns still broken for 213 too
hexed vapor
Oh, thought you were talking about E1.
nocturne flax
E1 too
hexed vapor
I'd agree if it weren't for the fact that they seem to be intended to spawn 2 away.
You can't get a 3-away spawn on the left.
boreal tendon
not a single alarm in datablock that has area distance set to more than 2
velvet flower
I think E1 zone scan is nothing different in datablock compare to other zone scans, just something goes terrible wrong so it only spawns from Z448
nocturne flax
I would still suggest 10cc to actually redesign that labyrinth tile for floodways
hexed vapor
I would still suggest 10cc to actually redesign that labyrinth tile for floodway...
The hub in R5C1 and R7D1?
nocturne flax
The hub in R5C1 and R7D1?
yes sir
obtuse surge
they gotta add invis walls to it cuz u can kite rn
hexed vapor
Kinda a favorite tile, ngl.
The ladders might be an issue
I'd be down for changing a lot of them to stairs.
obtuse surge
yes
nocturne flax
I would redesign the side of the rooms tbh just to make pathfinding a loot smoother
obtuse surge
remove ladders from the game
nocturne flax
remove ladders from the game
BUT HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO GO UP ON DIG SITE
obtuse surge
climb rock
hexed vapor
They should do the big pit tile thing
and just have the ladder unusable
sleepers don't see it.
(probably bug)
obtuse surge
have u guys seen the cheese spots for the room scans
ppl dont use those in matchmaking
only in lfg
matchmaking truly better
obtuse surge
for C2
hexed vapor
I actually can't believe I avoided PuGs because I thought it would be too difficult.
obtuse surge
one of those boxes that they put invis ladders on
doesn't have the invis ladder this time for some reason
hexed vapor
Oof
obtuse surge
its not rly a box
idk what to call the thing
the scouts really like to climb on top of them too usually
velvet flower
container?
nocturne flax
gotta love how i accidentaly discovered a invisible ladder spot for sleepers in a dig site tile when i was shoving a shooter
the whole building thingy was completly sealed off by invisible walls but still had the ladder there
obtuse surge
theres also a hanging container for C2 that u can jump on
and for C1 there's just spots everywhere
behind railing, behind glass, on top of pipes
and those are the lobbies where we then just die on the way to extraction
real moss
and those are the lobbies where we then just die on the way to extraction <:kek:...
Ofc cause when you never learn how to fight how will you handle the forced run and fight section? 😅
kind swan
kind swan
strange junco
spitter scouts
mellow creek
jumping scouts
mossy marsh
when
tame cloak
Scout scout: each tendrils have a smaller scout at the tip, sending tendrils too to reach corners
tough totem
shadow scout: a seemingly normal scout that casts a shadow when illuminated
tame cloak
Okay now the real new thing: mimic sleeper, pretends to be a container or a room door
half hornet
what is this, Prey 2016?
tough totem
game just becomes prop hunt but with random tiles
half hornet
i think we just need to focus on body horror more
go full The Thing on this
skull-spiders and all that jazz
tough totem
a chair with a spooky bowl of candy and when you get close you learn that it's empty
a bakery that closed right before you arrived
rng for stubbing your toe
being home alone and hearing something on the other side of the room
being hungry with no food in the fridge
1 missed calls from mom
getting out of the shower and realizing there's no towels
kind swan
fringe surge
getting out of the shower and realizing there's no towels
Too real
Happened 20 mins ago
kind swan
real moss
GTFO will ban someone who cheat?
Yes
mellow creek
whats the point of cheating when theres only 10 stages in the game
forest horizon
skill issue people
burnt goblet
People who lack skill or people who are bored of the game already
real moss
People who lack skill or people who are bored of the game already
both are not an excuse
burnt goblet
I never said they were an excuse?
real moss
I never said they were an excuse?
I never said you said they were excuses
burnt goblet
Lmfao
tame cloak
and the semi circle
fallow wasp
Gtfo should have a level that’s all shooters :)
real moss
Gtfo should have a level that’s all shooters :)
🤣
fallow wasp
That would be fun
strange junco
kite heaven
gloomy flame
Gtfo should have a level that’s all shooters :)
Back in rundown 001, expedition B1 had only shooters spawned in for a large chunk of the sleeping rooms. Scouts would spawn regular strikers though.
icy pendant
in C1, after you go into zone 14, is it a constant alarm until you get 9 GLP-2's?
kind swan
Yes
icy pendant
this game is evil
obtuse cedar
It's 4 enemies per glp zone opened
kind swan
C1 isn't evil as some others
icy pendant
whats the worst one
obtuse cedar
Considering we had plenty of levels with an infinite error alarm worst then this before that never shut down... This is not evil
kind swan
R6C3
icy pendant
Considering we had plenty of levels with an infinite error alarm worst then this...
ah, this is our first rundown
obtuse cedar
R4b2pe was known for being a brutal b2
icy pendant
Also B3 PE if yall have attempted yet
we tried b3 pe once and when we picked up the stone we didnt know it was gonna transport us...
obtuse cedar
we tried b3 pe once and when we picked up the stone we didnt know it was gonna t...
You'd known if you would have played r6. But this is your first rundown so fair.
icy pendant
in our defence, we made it twice
kind swan
Each time. It gets more difficult as well
kind swan
You'd known if you would have played r6. But this is your first rundown so fair.
R6C1 data cubes were pitiful though :/
obtuse cedar
A tip for you. If a secondary or overload seem to easy first try.. then expect something bad
The easier it is. The more bullshit it can be.
Though at some point everything will be easy :p
kind swan
I'll just say you'll probably struggle with C3 depending
obtuse cedar
R6C1 data cubes were pitiful though :/
They were main story/objective
kind swan
:/
obtuse cedar
R6D4 also had them but worked differently a bit
kind swan
Ye
obtuse cedar
Still main objective though
kind swan
Kraken
obtuse cedar
Not the last level
icy pendant
it wasnt?
kind swan
D4 was the last level prior to extension levels
And even then. When extension dropped. Flyers did double damage for awhile
kind swan
My group cleared DX on the last day before it was fixed. Made me laugh when people thought DX was hard
obtuse cedar
Dx was never hard. The level was just badly optimised
kind swan
to be fair you're skilled and pretty based
obtuse cedar
Rather the desert made people have no frames
kind swan
Also that
icy pendant
btw
do lock melters just suck?
obtuse cedar
No.
icy pendant
please elaborate
kind swan
They melt physical and hack locks silently/quickly
obtuse cedar
They are useful when you want to be quick.
icy pendant
They melt physical and hack locks silently/quickly
i can think of like 2 situations where that is useful
obtuse cedar
It's faster to use them then to hack. It 's good if you need to stealth any kind of lock to proceed
kind swan
They are useful when you want to be quick.
Also did they remove one of the doors in C1 having a hack locked door?
strange junco
because they are made for specific tasks
kind swan
I could've sworn one of the doors was hack locked
strange junco
u arent supposed to expect lock melt to do super op shit
it did what the name says
kind swan
Should also know. Lock melters didnt exist back in R1
But hack locks didnt make noise either for failing
gloomy flame
Should also know. Lock melters didnt exist back in R1
hack locks existed in R1 on storage containers, maybe what you mean is hack locks weren't on doors in R1?
hexed vapor
i can think of like 2 situations where that is useful
Not all consumables need to be highly valuable, and tbh lock melters are a lot more practical than most of the "useless" consumables.
Good for any situation where you want to avoid killing something in stealth or if you're in a hurry.
obtuse cedar
there are only 4
And they are all in the same room
obtuse cedar
Not all consumables need to be highly valuable, and tbh lock melters are a lot m...
I like my glowstick even if fog repellers are just better glowstick
kind swan
hack locks existed in R1 on storage containers, maybe what you mean is hack lock...
typo but I meant Lock Melters
gloomy flame
Oh okay
half hornet
it's weird for me to think that i only fought him oncea
and never got to fight him ever again
hallow lark
i can think of like 2 situations where that is useful
I know one: R6D3 Reactor 5/5 Key retrieval
Still gave me one of my best risky plays ever
fringe surge
the extreme for that was dumb and bad and stupid
I hate fog
hexed vapor
Secondary was kind of sick, tho.
A bit easy, I guess.
but a fun post-reactor detour.
topaz parrot
made me giga anxious because of the timer after the reactor though lol
unlisted too so like you end up wondering how much time before everything falls apart
kind swan
People who did overload after main kek
kind swan
It's possible and it gave you all the time you needed to clear Secondary
fringe surge
First you gotta run back to overload
Clear out the shadow area
Do the relatively long reactor shutdown
Then do th entire error thing
In 10 mins
Wtf
obtuse cedar
But it's ok.. cause the surge alarm doesn't matter. You had enough time to do overload and go through the respawns zone and wait until surge came... Them you just deactivate the alarms. No more surge.. which is why you had all the time in the world for secondary
Deactivate_alarms is fair and intended apparantly
-_-
Which is also why it is stupid to have added a room scan in r7d1 error alarm sidezone.. because both commands that shut down alarm and start room scan are on the same terminal
Who would legit do the room scan by seeing both commands on the terminal
fringe surge
Ah
I forgot the deactivate alarm function could do multiple alarms
wow that makes the surge alarm genuinely worthless
Unless they somehow end up waking up bigroomTM
alpine spindle
We got twins bois @cinder gate @boreal shell @lavish gyro
fresh bronze
Who would legit do the room scan by seeing both commands on the terminal
Wait does deactivate_alarms disable the room scan alarm aswell?
half hornet
We're talking D1 right?
real moss
We're talking D1 right?
And yep as well
real moss
Wait does deactivate_alarms disable the room scan alarm aswell?
Hence another argument why not doing the Error is counter productive
fresh bronze
Thats wack, ive been doing the room scan with the alarm this whole time
real moss
Thats wack, ive been doing the room scan with the alarm this whole time
It's not that hard tbh. But skipping it is a plus. especially with ovl on
fresh bronze
Yeah its never been a l
point of a failure
kind swan
Its only 2 waves of chargers tho unless your team somehow get downed and make the scan long enough for a 3rd
fallow wasp
I wonder which levels I have yet to beat without a checkpoint
I was never keeping track
half hornet
Probably everything past C1
People seem to wipe on those at least once
And maybe B3 PE, big fat maybe
obtuse cedar
Wait does deactivate_alarms disable the room scan alarm aswell?
Really makes you question what is intended after that right 🙂
You dont even get a single charger because the surge error is eating all the spawns
fallow wasp
I know I’ve beaten D1 overload and B3 PE without checkpoints
The only ones I haven’t are C2 and C3 I think
obtuse cedar
Funny. Cause c2 is kinda a joke
There are so much resources on C2 that even if you trigger overload scouts you will have more then enough to finish the mission still
fallow wasp
I beat c2 once and never played it since
obtuse cedar
It's an hour 15 min with a decent group. Close to 2 hours in pubs though lol
half hornet
8/10 too much walking
obtuse cedar
At least it is not r5b1extreme
Let's walk South for 10 minutes in infectious fog
And Search for the cells in that fog
With 10 enemies in the whole zone that is almost as big as D2 straight line
"fun"
real moss
At least it is not r5b1extreme
R5B1ovl was a fun reactor tho
real moss
I know I’ve beaten D1 overload and B3 PE without checkpoints
D2 is easy without CP
fallow wasp
yeah d2 has been done already
strange junco
c2 can go many ways
had a team that take the resources for granted and we had no ammo by the time at flyer alarm door in ovl
half hornet
Heh
daring pilot
had a team that take the resources for granted and we had no ammo by the time at...
flashbacks intensify
kind swan
I remember one run in C2
2 of us had 100% infection resist (technically 3 because bots immune to fog)
And so our host was just infected to hell
pliant pasture
2 of us had 100% infection resist (technically 3 because bots immune to fog)
were those boosters from previous Rundowns? or R7 boosters that you had stacked up?
wary olive
were those boosters from previous Rundowns? or R7 boosters that you had stacked ...
They could have been from previous or current, infection resist boosters haven't changed I think, you just need to stack an aggressive + either a muted or bold to reach 100%
I think aggressive gives like 90's% resist
fallow wasp
I had a 99% infection resist aggressive
I think I had it back in R5 but I was saving it for E1, which I never got to
deft kiln
Booster max values can be found on the wiki aggressive can be a prefect 100%
obtuse surge
have you gotten boosters with the upper bound of the interval
?
it seemed to me like it excluded max
but i didn't pay attention to it for long and also didn't look into it further
deft kiln
I could be wrong I thought I have seen 100 but tbh I can’t remember
Gotten high 90’s infection this rundown I haven’t gotten my prefect one yet
autumn pendant
I know I’ve beaten D1 overload and B3 PE without checkpoints
when u do these runs do u clear every security door n suchor just the important ones?
fallow wasp
Hmm? Like do I kill every enemy possible?
autumn pendant
yeah sort of cuz idk if the error alarms trigger them from previosu explored areas if u just leave them alone
fallow wasp
Are you referring to d1 or b3
If an alarm will wake a room, I make sure to kill off anything that will wake
autumn pendant
either one like if u pass an area near start and then u get up to the part of the mission where the full blown alarm kicks in nonstop r those guys in the beginning still sleeping so like would it be more beneficial to ignore them since less chance of getting into a fight
fallow wasp
Usually enemies spawn 2 ish rooms away so if its far away I won’t need to worry
For b3 it’s best to remember where the enemies spawn at the start because they’ll be back if killed
crisp venture
have people beat rundown 7 with only bots on their team yet?
is that possible even
autumn pendant
Unsure but I do know d1 solo the final part is almost impossible because you need perfect rng on the terminal required to verify otherwise u only have 13 seconds or so to run back in time, this is assuming ur not using a macro, a macro makes it doable.
wary olive
d1 has been solo'ed without bots, not sure if bots would make that part harder or easier
velvet flower
Probably harder because you gotta kill bots b4 one sequence then revive them for team scan then kill them again
kind swan
depends if they're okay with kicking the bots then respawning them
but legit wouldn't allow that I suppose
tough totem
D2 has been soloed without bots aswell
E1 too I think
yeah
T-nenpi
no clue about bot only clears
deft kiln
D1 bots only without kicking bots would need some good rng
toxic shadow
Just attempted D2 with some buddies. We finally got to the second bridge and we were lucky enough to get TWO tanks, both of which spawned behind us in the sec room 😂
wary olive
😱
real moss
have people beat rundown 7 with only bots on their team yet?
the whole rundown has been soloed without bots.
cloud ibex
Just attempted D2 with some buddies. We finally got to the second bridge and we ...
They arent spawn in there, there are in there
kind swan
Otherside has Mothers
cedar haven
I just have finished D1. is there any different doing OV and without OV in a game mechanic ?
velvet flower
Not much
chilly ivy
Probably harder because you gotta kill bots b4 one sequence then revive them for...
Why does this help, please?
velvet flower
Why does this help, please?
I assume using spawn cap + kiting strat so in this case I'd imagine downing bots is mandatory
chilly ivy
Oh. I didn't find kiting to be necessary. Didn't even consider it tbh. Failed on third code though after a mistake I made 😄
velvet flower
Without kiting means you might need to fight mother or buffering confirm command?
chilly ivy
There is a mother?
tame cloak
D1 has mother punish wave if you fail terminal Confirms
chilly ivy
Oh yeah. I remember hearing that now. Never actually failed one so never seen it lol. Mother is easy to deal with with bots anyway.
It's the multiple tanks that can be problematic.
And spawn cap is just 🧀
velvet flower
True
obtuse cedar
And spawn cap is just 🧀
This logic is flawed considering the action of re-foaming a door during alarm achieve just that but that is ok.
chilly ivy
Spawn cap requires zero resources. Using a resource can not be cheesing. Or by that logic, shooting the alarm waves is also cheesing. We're just meant to wipe.
half hornet
Fair. In latter case youre literally just using Cfoam launcher by instruction manual.
obtuse cedar
But you get hit when kiting. Hence you use meds in sticky situation to avoid dying. Wait does this make kiting not cheese now. You see the issue here?
turbid cliff
bruh what
half hornet
It's silly and unbalanced but it is how it seems to be supposed to work
turbid cliff
if there was an exploit where you could kill the entire map with 1 bullet, it would be completely fair because you're using resources?
tough totem
kiting is cheese? I run from my problems all the time tho
turbid cliff
permafoam completely nulls everything regardless of difficulty as long as you have this one thing
obtuse cedar
if there was an exploit where you could kill the entire map with 1 bullet, it wo...
It's all flawed logic to begin with. That is my point
turbid cliff
cheese is a vague word but essentially you're exploiting the system to make something way easier than intended
half hornet
Like what can we do? "hey just foam the door once and don't refoam it" - "why?" - just dont
tough totem
cheese is a vague word but essentially you're exploiting the system to make some...
truth
turbid cliff
i mean yeah
turbid cliff
Like what can we do? "hey just foam the door once and don't refoam it" - "why?" ...
the same way you choose not to use cheese spots
"hey just don't stand on this spot where you're basically invincible" "why" "just don't"
obtuse cedar
It is the point of c-foam though. To keep enemies out.
kind swan
My friend watching pablo in cheese spot while he just watches tiktok as we kill Pablo's 2 sons
turbid cliff
the devs' argument in the past was multiple paths and limited resources iirc, for why they didn't change foam
the real argument is because priorities and not enough people yelling about it
limited resources is irrelevant when there's more than enough to go through the entire combat
whether i have 1% left over or 1000% doesn't matter
and multiple paths aren't always there
chilly ivy
But you get hit when kiting. Hence you use meds in sticky situation to avoid dyi...
Don't get hit?
obtuse cedar
There always has been TOO MUCH resources. Your arguments isn't valid
kind swan
chilly ivy
Spawn cap kiting is cheesing the game mechanics. Using cfoam to reinforce a door is using mechanics as intended
kind swan
Imean tbf experienced players can make ammo last quite awhile or just melee everything
obtuse cedar
Don't get hit?
It was a showcase of how you can say stuff consume resources so it wouldn't be considered cheese by your argument
half hornet
I just don't see how devs wouldn't catch the perma foam as a thing or not fix it for 7 rundowns
turbid cliff
Spawn cap kiting is cheesing the game mechanics. Using cfoam to reinforce a doo...
spawn cap is intended, kiting to a certain extent is also intended, why are those combined suddenly cheesing?
where's the breaking point
half hornet
The level of sheer incompetence that requires is unreal to me, so I assume its okay in their mind.
tough totem
what
kind swan
Spawn cap I imagine is also there to prevent too many enemies on the field at once to hinder performance for lower specs
turbid cliff
🤔 permafoam, bhop, and kiting all go back to R2 iirc, and devs at first didn't intend to do anything about all 3 of those
tough totem
idk if kiting = incompetent
half hornet
Earlier comment
kind swan
Permafoam being not intended is fucking joke ngl
half hornet
Kiting is not my expertise and there are grades of it
Running and gunning is one thing, abusing silly AI to get caught on obstacles is another
To be fair I've seen very little of the latter
chilly ivy
spawn cap is intended, kiting to a certain extent is also intended, why are thos...
Ahh yes. That's why the devs were so intent on stopping kiting
turbid cliff
read a little more and see how your argument was countered before you even said it
kind swan
obtuse cedar
Ahh yes. That's why the devs were so intent on stopping kiting
They did such a good job at it too. Look you can still do it!
kind swan
They didnt exactly want to stop I imagine but make it harder to do
half hornet
Nerf and shmerf until it is derfed
kind swan
But ai smart close one door they run to the door that's open
Open then close the other and they run back to the otherside open door
obtuse surge
the intention is just making the majority shut up by creating an illusion that you fixed the problem
they've done this constantly
grab a major concern, poorly fix it, move on
you guys didnt talk about permafoam enough for them to do something about that
but they dealt with "kiting", they dealt with "discord lfg" being required, they dealt with less than 4 player lobbies, they dealt with the pain of fully having to restart on each wipe
tame cloak
fixing spawncap: forced pablo spawn to surpass spawncap if no enemies are killed in a certain amount of time, badly implemented to trigger constantly on D2
real moss
but they dealt with "kiting", they dealt with "discord lfg" being required, they...
They haven't dealt with you yet
obtuse cedar
you guys didnt talk about permafoam enough for them to do something about that
Ofc people didnt... It was the nornal thing to do back then. Now it somehow became cheese recently in the eyes of the people who used to use it.
Same with kiting. It was all good back then... Then r4 came around and the majority started using it... And it became cheese.
Soon shooting guns will become cheese :)
Or lining up enemies will become cheese
royal lichen
press-w-cheese
half hornet
Not precise enough, keep going, get autistic about it
half hornet
That's just retreating
tough totem
not shadows
half hornet
Shadows are fine
tough totem
shadows slow
half hornet
Fuck them
tough totem
you wont
half hornet
I talk a regular biter
obtuse cedar
The ability to combine the dodge mechanic, parkour, map knowledge (includes rerouting), stamina management in order to run around the map leading enemies away in order to achieve something.
tough totem
I like mine better
half hornet
There's a dodge mechanic?...
tough totem
very slight dodge
obtuse cedar
Used to. They broke it in r6
tough totem
probably meant just not getting hit on an attack
half hornet
You mean the patehtic 10cm dash?
robust marsh
There's a dodge mechanic?...
was* the devs screwed it up adding stamina (fixed with mods btw)
obtuse cedar
But it also includes how to dodge tongues and shooter shot
robust marsh
You mean the patehtic 10cm dash?
that saved your life 90% of the times before R6 yes
you can even jump dash
to get behind chargers quickly
robust marsh
basically
but enemies wake up right away when you land
but again its broken right now
errant vigil
If you just constantly move you have the dash
They will miss
You still had to move for the “dodge” to work
half hornet
So again why can't they catch up to you?
obtuse cedar
I already told you
It's the description i gave of kiting.
Kiting is just an amalgamation to all those things
half hornet
So... It's not that they never do a bite attack, is that you dodge those few that they managd to pull off?
obtuse cedar
Pretty much
Which is how circle kiting became a thing... Cause people learned how to dodge enemies and put it to the extreme
obtuse cedar
You can still circle kite now for quite some time before you have to disengage... So it is still in the game rn... People just have yet to learn how to do it
half hornet
So... At this point the only solution is to make tongues into tubes of death that just hit you no matter what.
robust marsh
So... At this point the only solution is to make tongues into tubes of death tha...
so you mean tanks
fallow wasp
Man I remember circle kiting shadows around a vehicle in r5
half hornet
Just copy paste that onto a biter
fallow wasp
I can’t remember what level it was but it was optional uplinks
errant vigil
C1 the worst level
obtuse cedar
I can’t remember what level it was but it was optional uplinks
You don't face 12 tanks at once though...
errant vigil
Respawn block plus perma foam plus circle kite
fallow wasp
The first dude circle kited them for like 3 minutes straight while we did an uplink, but then some shit happened and the codes stopped showing at the top of the screen
obtuse cedar
Thank you phone for replying to wrong person
fallow wasp
I was mildly confused
obtuse cedar
True.. but go in pubs and see how much they get hit. You'll make B tier a pain in pubs and they will only be able to do A tier after that. XD
errant vigil
Stagger is broken mechanic that has gotten a bunch of power creep
Game would change that much
Wouldn’t
obtuse cedar
The current system is broken because everything is just so damn strong
Yet people fail at basic tasks still :)
tough totem
so you mean tanks
I've dodged tank attacks
granted it was a line of sight thing, u still did it
atomic escarp
Yet people fail at basic tasks still :)
There's times where I still get puzzled to be honest
"Warning alarm detected" new guy pulls door
At the third time I just started to think they were trolling/sabotaging intentionally
half hornet
I mean, what is the possibility they just don't read shit 3 times in a row?
tough totem
probably
atomic escarp
I still stand by the teory that some trailers do more harm than good
There was a guy with half an hour of playtime that just refused to stealth anything
Gets in a room, sees monster, starts shooting
half hornet
I mean... Did it work?
fallow wasp
Everything works in A1
atomic escarp
The only explanation I can fathom is that there's some sort of massive difference between how they perceive the gameplay is going to be like due to some trailer or some ad misrepresenting
half hornet
I can't remember if I beat Kraken 1 or 2 times
fallow wasp
I tried doing D1 with one other guy and bots
half hornet
Ironically my first blind attempt was the succesful one, later ones got fooooked
fallow wasp
It went well until we reached the end and neither of the bots would do anything
atomic escarp
I mean... *Did it work?*
My point is not that it works or not, my point is that for some reason they either refuse to stealth or think it doesn't matter
toxic shadow
They arent spawn in there, there are in there
OH
atomic escarp
despite never having played the game
toxic shadow
shit lol
fallow wasp
Bad habits form early
half hornet
Some people are just not into stealth I guess. To be fair this person won't be around for long.
fallow wasp
God damn you worded it like you’re gonna go and execute them
half hornet
Either he learns or he gets the joy of realising you have 2 mags too few to beat the final dash
west crow
Yeah, one of those games actually works properly
Unless you're talking about the jockey
The jockey doesn't count
half hornet
Glitchy little bastard...
west crow
Just make a worse hunter 😡😡
half hornet
Eh, he's not that bad
obtuse cedar
They just want to ride you
half hornet
Just start shoving the second you see him
atomic escarp
I never liked jockey/charger/spitter and preferred the L4D1 actual special infected lineup
half hornet
Yep
west crow
It made survival maps a fucking breeze
atomic escarp
Charger and spitter are fine
I don't know man, I remember most L4D instantkills but charger enabled a ton of them
Let's take for example Dead Air first map
Smoker pulls from ladder, needs target to hang on building gap, then hunter to jump on him
requires time (too much tbh) and 2 players
Meanwhile, charger could do some just alone
west crow
Dunno charger is pretty fucking loud
atomic escarp
but that has 0 to do with gtfo so I'll drop that
obtuse cedar
We now a l4d channel let's go
half hornet
It's only fair to discuss a superior game
west crow
At least when I get grabbed by a hunter I don't get put into a fucking void and/or get a 12 fps gif stuck on my screen
real moss
despite never having played the game
thats just Cod Mentality
fresh bronze
game with guns clearly means you shoot everything
real moss
they should make a melee only rundown.
errant vigil
Every rundown before R6 was
real moss
Every rundown before R6 was
yes technically. but ok a FORCED melee only rundown
tame cloak
C3 except the warden realises the armories were empty
real moss
C3 except the warden realises the armories were empty
and then the whole ffín rundown like that
make them LEARN
errant vigil
Slowest most boring rundown
tame cloak
a system where killing with melee rewards points that you are allowed to expand for ammo later on
And put a tank in A1 side
tame cloak
Eval: objective: tank, no ammo
real moss
and people who come cry that its bs: instant ban
a bit of culling could do a lot of good
fallow wasp
If they want to ramp up the difficulty again they can always pull an r5 and put a mother in A2
real moss
If they want to ramp up the difficulty again they can always pull an r5 and put ...
good times
fallow wasp
Indeed
I loved r5’s introduction of new enemy types
Not that they were super special and cinematic or any of that, but yeah
real moss
I loved r5’s introduction of new enemy types
what was first tank in R5? R5B3 ex ?
fallow wasp
Maybe, I barely remember b3 to be honest though
real moss
It was a thunderdome objective on the extreme
fallow wasp
Sheesh, still no bells being rang but I certainly remember the heinous thunder dome of c2
C2PE made you kill like 3 tanks and at least 3 mothers
Shit absolutely dunked me
real moss
Sheesh, still no bells being rang but I certainly remember the heinous thunder d...
B3 was not that hard, when you knew it was coming
fallow wasp
Probably why I don’t remember it too well
I remember the levels that kick my ass more
real moss
but I think it ended on a tank
real moss
I remember the levels that kick my ass more
yeah cause you keep retrying 🤣
fallow wasp
Never got to be d levels in r5 but I heard an extreme objective was so ungodly that it was almost required to use some kind of cheese
fallow wasp
Yeesh, I never really went far past the first few doors back when I played it
Because I was quite adamant about beating all the Cs first
fallow wasp
Rad
Maybe we’ll see a comeback of all the past levels in new shiny R7 glory
With stamina and more polish
real moss
yeeey with added Cp so it is easy af 🥳 🤪
dreamy bramble
more polish
kind swan
Maybe we’ll see a comeback of all the past levels in new shiny R7 glory
R1 having alarm hack locks and lock melters
Shotgun sentry not being op/bugged
candid dragon
a checkpoint before r5d1ex would totally flip the difficulty of the floor.
real moss
a checkpoint before r5d1ex would totally flip the difficulty of the floor.
exactly but we both know its gonna happen 😭
kind swan
I would prefer. Checkpoints not be added to old rundowns but yeah
fresh bronze
Honestly i dont think checkpoints would be that bad if they regenerated everything after the checkpoint every time
tame cloak
Yeah but at the same time people are gonna double down on "we'll get better rng"
I still wish it would
real moss
Honestly i dont think checkpoints would be that bad if they regenerated everythi...
yeah that would help
limiting them would help as well, but Imma get crucified again for saying that
fresh bronze
I mean res could be the same just different spots
kind swan
Like B4B limit the amount of times you can checkpoint
Or checkpoint the half way mark
And no others
real moss
Or checkpoint the half way mark
I feel you need both the limit and the single checkpoint but yeah
kind swan
What was it.
fresh bronze
I like checkpoints but i do agree they are easy to abuse
kind swan
R6D1 giving you checkpoints every turn or smth
real moss
R6D1 giving you checkpoints every turn or smth
yep
fresh bronze
Repeating the beginning of a map for hours is def not fun imo
kind swan
Eval: walks and opens doors.
Game: Heres a checkpoint
Also Schaeffer telling you to use the terminal nearby but he really meant the terminal in the next room is a kek
real moss
but seeing what the addition of checkpoints has brought with it in terms of bugs (that are still not fixed) and unintended mechanics, it is clear that checkpoints were not planned and were one thing only: the devs giving in to the plebs of steam discussions
kind swan
:/
fresh bronze
If bugs are fixed snd polished a bit they really would be a good feature
tame cloak
checking out steam discussion time !
tame cloak
golden
real moss
If bugs are fixed snd polished a bit they really would be a good feature
yeah been saying that since they added them (ALMOST A YEAR AGO)
real moss
Now some complain about checkpoints not being savepoints
where does it stop
robust marsh
people in R5: give us checkpoints it helps alot please
People in R6: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO checkpoints bad
People in R7: it sucks that there isn't any checkpoint in E1
kind swan
golden
Not very fogdiver of them. They are sorely mistaken if they think the fog is bad this rundown
tame cloak
omg the E1 thread is something I think
real moss
people in R5: give us checkpoints it helps alot please
People in R6: BOOOOOOOOOO...
thats the best thing they did in R7. not adding a CP to E1
kind swan
people in R5: give us checkpoints it helps alot please
People in R6: BOOOOOOOOOO...
Didnt help most of R6 wasnt very hard
real moss
omg the E1 thread is something I think
check the fog is anti fun.
he switches to calling me and ray gatekeepers immediatly
robust marsh
thats the best thing they did in R7. not adding a CP to E1
no its a dumpster fire
real moss
just cause we say it gets worse later