gtfo-spoiler-chat

[final forum]

We cannot find the CCollection case for the Shuttlebox on R7B1. Where exactly is it?

[velvet flower]

When in doubt, use terminal.

[honest lotus]

our rng

||queen spawned right infront of the door both times making stealthing back almost impossible||

[mortal granite]

you did say "almost impossible"

so it's possible

[queen field]

got something similar with a scout & 2 babies

😳

[kind swan]

Normal scout?

[queen field]

charger scout ofc you baboon

[kind swan]

Both situations are a fun time

[queen field]

fact

[kind swan]

:KEKW:

Oof

Hm

Smth with that server I guess.

[hexed vapor]

Depends on where c-scout is tbh, that's actually a good spot to have mom.

[honest lotus]

so heres the thing

c-scout was in same room and wouldnt leave the area with mom

and thats the queen version

not the small one

also had babies around her

[hexed vapor]

RIP

[honest lotus]

what ended up happening is i went to go past her c-scout fucked me over by not leaving i tried to back back but the babies were listening so it was either c-scout touches me or babies wake and insta wake the queen

there was only 1 way round her

next run we had this as well

ideal route had mother blocking it XD

i got past

next person got past

because im a chad like that

then someone woke her up

and i was like "i was expecting this to happen" so walked to door closed it and walked in to deal with her

and i pref to have mom in first room

well queen

queen first room

that was 3rd room infront of door

so we had to kill her the first time to even get the pull on the door

it was rigged from the start

[honest lotus]

oh but it was but the cs screwed us
if the cs was later in the room we would have been fine i could have cfoamed that one then the next one then would have gotten 4th code easy

i wait in the middle room neither spawn back in

and we run to extract

[sullen hornet]

Hey, any tips on beating D2?

I already know what to do objective wise but we always seem to die at the mother/tank section

[kind latch]

a lot of cfoam

use a lot of it

while running to extraction

[sullen hornet]

How so? I originally thought C foam was bordeline useless in this level

[kind latch]

its only really good on the extraction part

it stops the hordes of enemies from pushing in and lets you finish the scan

[sullen hornet]

Gotcha

We did mines because the blood doors were gigantic bitches

[kind latch]

you can also try just leaving 1 guy to put in the usb thingy before the final door opens and 3 guys running to extraction

[sullen hornet]

And biotracker and two sentries

That sounds cheesy but great

[kind latch]

it is a little cheesy but its a fun strat to try with your squad

its what i like about d2

has a lot of replayability

[sullen hornet]

Oh yeah D2 is a very unique level

[hexed vapor]

What specifically kills you?

You usually want to clear out first room, including minibosses, for whichever side you take.

[night gust]

What command i need use to found something?

[fallow wasp]

what are you hoping to find?

you can use the list and query commands to find pretty much anything

[half hornet]

LIST BULKHEAD_KEY
to find all keys on the map and get their numbers

QUERY BULKHEAD_KEY_XXX
to find in which zone it is, specifically.

PING BULKHEAD_KEY_XXX
Using terminal in the same zone as the item to ping it's precise position.
You can add -T at the end of command to ping it continuously for your teammates to find it.

[half hornet]

Yep, like that.

It's in the zone 255

So that's where you need to go

[night gust]

Need bulkhead_dc_108

[half hornet]

I think that's where you insert the key

You can query / ping that as well

[half hornet]

And that's in zone 126

And now you have your objective stack

[hexed vapor]

You appear to have completed the Main objective.

Secondary has the bulkhead key as a refund, but if you open Main first Secondary becomes inaccessible.

You should always do LIST BULK or LIST KEY beforehand if you intend to do optionals.

This will tell you where you need to go to get keys and where you should spend your keys in order to access every objective.

In the case of B2, Secondary has a key, but Main does not (past the bulkhead), so if you want to open both bulkheads you need to visit Secondary first.

[night gust]

To go further, I need the key 481, but it's in zone 255, but to get there, I need to find the dc 108 key, but it's not here

[kind swan]

[half hornet]

DC is not a key

[kind swan]

Door control iirc

[half hornet]

It's a key-hole

[kind swan]

That works too.

[half hornet]

You insert keys into it

[kind swan]

Logically speaking it eats the keys since the key just vanishes after putting it in

[night gust]

So what i need to do? 😂

[turbid egret]

Find that

[half hornet]

You need to find the key for it, unless you already did

As Rev said - it's a mutually exclusive affair

What mission is this again?

[night gust]

B2

[half hornet]

How far did you got

[night gust]

Evacuation zone

[half hornet]

Then that's it

You've locked yourself out of secondary objective

You can no longer do it

Just extract

[night gust]

we cant door closed

[half hornet]

Which door

The right in front of extraction zone?

[half hornet]

Lmao

That door is opened by inserting a unique command into a terminal that's literally next to it

You almost touched it with your red marker

The little green square

Go there
Type in COMMANDS
search for a unique command at the very end of the list
Type that in
Get door open
Win

[half hornet]

use unlock command at local terminal

I want to post that meme from boondocks but I dont think discord will like it

Ah fuck it

[night gust]

nothing

[turbid egret]

go to the terminal

type "commands"

[vague mauve]

go to left side of the door

[atomic escarp]

I know what that says and I don't even watch the boondocks lmao 😂

[vague mauve]

you will go down and there has a terminal

[night gust]

i used bypass something and its work

[turbid egret]

you mean "it worked"?

[half hornet]

There we go

[night gust]

i played 3h

😂

[vague mauve]

it's fine, just need to git gud

[turbid egret]

or get carried

[kind swan]

READ N-----

Me when I tell people to look at the top left of their screen

[turbid egret]

gimme a vowel

[kind swan]

No

[half hornet]

To be fair though: this game is shit at explaining objectives

[night gust]

I was watching

[half hornet]

And once the session hits 50+ minutes your brain starts melting

So him spending 3 hours in there is GTFO version of deep-frying a person

[turbid egret]

he's fine. just brain exercise

[kind swan]

Wasnt referring to you but ye

[hexed vapor]

Damn, are all mid-day D2s this scuffed?

Two people that cannot hold waves, cannot fight tank.

Actually painful.

[queen field]

Not just D2

I've seen people die against the 2 tanks in E1

3 of them

full HP, full ammo

[hexed vapor]

Broo

[queen field]

Sometimes you just wonder what the hell is going on in their mind

[hexed vapor]

There's one point where I'm just spray MGing the wave.

And a BBC gets past me and fucks me.

And I get the downed view where they're just like, in the back

for no reason.

And they have to like, stop and think about shooting at the BBC that's rushing them.

They had great weps for tank, too, btw.

PR and choke.

Like holy fuck, do damage, please, I have MG.

Tbh I should have asked code guy to chill w/ us for a bit.

That's usually what I do for the carry set-up there.

Open tanks, defend until we kill tank and pull back to bridge.

[light lagoon]

The story of pubbie teams just makes me feel better about my team.

[hexed vapor]

Fuck, I wanted to do C3 Main or B3 Main + Sec today, but I'm not sure how that'll go over.

[fierce laurel]

what are you complaining about

I don't get it

[turbid egret]

I've already said this. No one is teaching the new players anymore. No one that is competent anyway. All the competent people that are just here for 1 completion are done and gone.

[hexed vapor]

Hmmm

[fierce laurel]

most competent people got their own groups

I used to hang out in the lfgs a lot but stopped around R5

[hexed vapor]

Tbqh, I think it's mostly an FPS skill thing, and FPS skill is really hard to teach.

[minor heart]

I just was in a very nice round and learned some new stuff! First time trying vc for me

[hexed vapor]

Been this way since R1 ngl.

[minor heart]

And second time playing the game at all

[fierce laurel]

gtfo is more of a strategy game than fps

[hexed vapor]

You'd have R2D2 runs where 2-3 people were actual NPCs.

[fierce laurel]

you don't need that much fps skill

[fierce laurel]

pog!

hope that continues

[minor heart]

Thank you very much!

[hexed vapor]

More horde shooter skill tbh

[turbid egret]

When bots can shoot better and not wipe during security scan, it's fps skill issue.

[hollow crane]

I mean the game happens to be alot easier when people hit their shots, shockingly enough. Especially headshots and such. Can you get by with average aim and extensive game knowledge? Sure, but it gunna be rougher in some sections

[mortal granite]

any fps game become easier when you hit your shot

[fierce laurel]

flyer is an arial tracker check

I feel bad for non fps gamers lmfao

[hallow lark]

I’m still trying to work out my problems atm… I think my windows update fucked up all of my sensitivity controls that I had in place… I’m able to regain most of my ability to play gtfo… but I lost my Pdw/MG shooting ability

Goddamnit

[echo geyser]

Haven’t used PDW much, it good?

[fallow wasp]

kinda mid if you ask me

[fierce laurel]

its okay

really good at staggering

but damage wise its kind of eh

I wouldn't suggest it unless you play fps games because it has one hell of a recoil pattern

[echo geyser]

Been moving away for high cal pistol myself, it was good at first as a “kill anything quickly” weapon, but other more specialized secondaries like sniper, chokemode, and MG are just more efficient. Any thoughts?

[fierce laurel]

hi cal is pretty strong in its own right

[velvet flower]

PDW imo is very good, very high damage short-range, ok in mid-range. Fastest reload, if you need thermal scope I'll say this is your goto.

[fierce laurel]

but yeah other specialized options are probably better

[velvet flower]

HCP's generalist is fine since this rundown most expeditions' enemy distributions are mixed.

Ofc if your teammate has dedication to certain type of specials you can compensate, but HCP will never be a bad choice.

[hallow lark]

Yea but for deaf players, pdw is kinda a must-have for stealthing in certain levels where visual problems exist

But otherwise… in levels with high visibility can be done with other weapons

Darkness has to be interpreted accordingly to yourself.

[echo geyser]

I used to dislike the choke mode for its mag capacity but I really appreciate it against chargers now.

[last gust]

yeah deagle is a compromise gun

I'm getting a lot of mileage out of it in duos

allows me to do the limited amount of support I can get away with, without giving up too much waveclear

[kind swan]

raises muh big iron in the air

Revolver Gang

[last gust]

in 4man I'd expect you to be able to field more specialized roles

unless half your team is incompetent

in which case being able to kinda do everything with deagle is still valuable imo

[kind swan]

:/

My friend who keeps shooting chargers beyond 8m with HC

me: INTERNAL SCREAMS

[last gust]

you do what you gotta do

i.e. try to land your shots within 8m

and if you don't, quickswap chip out with main

[kind swan]

that friend in particular struggles in close range so eh

[last gust]

if your friend isn't chipping with main then that's where it becomes a problem

[kind swan]

he uses his guns and hits. just can't deal with them up close

because then he starts panicking and missing

[last gust]

he might be better suited to choke shotty or sniper

lean harder into that support role

[kind swan]

probably even Precision

but he doesn't like it's aim magnification so eh

[last gust]

I'm still not sure when I'd bother bringing PR over revolver

[light lagoon]

I can agree with him there.

But I just don't like either of the thermals tbh.

[kind swan]

ye I say it primarily because of the 30m range

but otherwise. hell no

[last gust]

I don't think I want 30m anywhere in r7

not on a revolver anyway

[kind swan]

It's because he performs gun wise best at range

(or straight aways but that's skill issue if youre missing in those situations)

[jaunty lava]

How do we get rid of fog in the first security scan in C1?
Also, is cfoam recommended in c1?

[last gust]

fog can be lowered using a terminal in zone 23

you can get there before doing the S scan

I probably wouldn't bring cfoam, but it wouldn't be bad per se

either cfoam + mines allows you to wipe early waves during S scan, or if you don't have mines you can cfoam the stairs leading up to the S scan location so you don't get mauled as easy

[jaunty lava]

I see

[last gust]

then cfoam can help for the GLP run, and again can disrupt waves on the floor during the arena scan later

but sentries are probably better

bio + 3 sentries or bio + 2 sentries + mines might be my choices for c1, I guess

[light lagoon]

I'd definitely go with mines or another sentry over C-Foam but that's me. Just make sure you close all the doors in the room outside the S-Scan and place the sentries in positions with good angles and you should be fine, after all you can pick up anything the sentries miss.

[bitter lantern]

Hey guys. My team has tried and failed C1 six times. Any tips for dealing with the class S Alarm?

We placed a bunch of sentries at the chokepoint but get completely killed by the giants.

[sullen hornet]

okay, raise of hands. Who else here never realized you could turn the lights back on in B3 in zones 108 and 109?

[fierce laurel]

two sniper sentries and a bio

kills half the wave for you

[bitter lantern]

oh?

thanks

[mortal granite]

i have a guide video for C1 in #guides-and-reviews

[last gust]

I realized the last time someone said "hey did you know you can turn the lights back on in the b3 dark zones" on the server

(which you can count as "didn't realize")

I tend to turn the lights back on in there these days when I'm in b3, but it's pretty pointless

[mortal granite]

you basically unga bunga

[velvet flower]

I turned on the light once, and never bother doing again.

[kind swan]

ya'll need light to see?

smmh

[mortal granite]

i help my teammate by turning on the light

they can see now

[next lance]

Is D1 supposed to spawn 3 snatchers every 5mins?!

[vague mauve]

Intended should be one

It is the desync problem

One way to prevent this problem is to solo (only one person in lobby,I.e. host) cleaning room until you typed the command/required your teammate leave before typed in the command, then tell them to rejoin once your command is typed

[mortal granite]

you could just clean the room

before type in command, everyone leave except host

tested and worked

[vague mauve]

Both are fine, I mentioned that too

[mortal granite]

i'm still going to test another way

got only 1 snatcher somehow even with desync

deleted the footage tho since teammates start cheesing

[vague mauve]

[mortal granite]

"oh, new way to consistence get 1 snatcher without everyone leaving? This is great"

Teammate: "Game kinda hard, let's cheese"

[vague mauve]

How do you do that tho

[mortal granite]

idk, but will still testing

it was weird to see 1 snatcher without doing any shenanigans

[kind swan]

[mortal granite]

i also want to check some log file WITH the bug to compare

[kind swan]

Emit chad energy aura to scare away the snatcher

[mortal granite]

the bug police is coming

quick, everyone hide

[honest lotus]

can i ask HOW

[honest lotus]

ive had someone 1 tap a snatcher with a shotgun so that right there is giga chad energy

[vague mauve]

[last gust]

sounds like giga cheat energy to me

snatchers have ~220hp

[honest lotus]

yeah they had boosters in all special dmg

[vague mauve]

[honest lotus]

was a stupid amount

may have been a 2 tap tbf

[last gust]

chad

boosters

🤷‍♂️

[hexed vapor]

It's confirmed in-lore that boosters are an addictive substance.

Don't do drugs, kids.

[vocal geode]

I mean, if it literally came down to you dying in the complex I think you'd take it too

I definitely would even though I 100% agree that you shouldn't take drugs

I mean you're not gonna live for long if you're doing that kind of thing anyway

[hexed vapor]

Sounds like a skill deficiency to me.

[vocal geode]

it very much is

which is why I NEED IT

[nocturne flax]

Amogus

[paper harness]

rare creature spotted in the complex?!?!

[vocal geode]

SCOUT! DON'T. TOUCH. THE FEELERS. THIS PLACE WILL GET CROWDED.

[last gust]

"You want a booster, I can't let you have it." --Schaeffer, R7C1

[mild violet]

"Giving you orders causing you a headache only curable by a booster? Well you can't have a booster, and I'm going to keep giving you orders for the fun of it."

Schaeffer's many things, but an arse is one of them. XD

[vocal geode]

IIIIIII NEEEEEEEEED IIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

[hard horizon]

Why do I see these custom tag I never seen before\

[vocal geode]

GAMER

[mossy marsh]

GAMER

[errant vigil]

modders, probably can see resources too

[hard horizon]

but modder cannot be in vanilla no more

then wtf

[nocturne flax]

If you know a little bit of c# you golden my man

🐸

[errant vigil]

They do a little bit of coding

[nocturne flax]

🐸

[mossy marsh]

[errant vigil]

Bout to bring FE 2 cringe weapons to vanilla

[nocturne flax]

Give me the dick extractor please

😫 😫 😫

[mossy marsh]

🤨

summon giant_generator

[vocal geode]

the 4skin shredder 9000

[nocturne flax]

We dont talk about that one

[kind swan]

[bitter lantern]

Giants sneak up and destroy us.

[honest lotus]

That scans easy

Get 1 person on sniper to take out the giants and hybrids

Then between the box looking things that goes down in the fog between em put a sentry facing the way they come (burst)

Then if u want another sentry place whereever

Then rest clear smalls and if the sniper has to reload they take out the bigs

Simple as that

Hasnt failed me once

[prisma zodiac]

just place 2 sniper sentrys down that hallway, have a bio track the enemys

if needed mine the doors leading to the rooms, 2 rooms rooms away

[honest lotus]

Either works

Depends on what u want for the final area ig

But c1 is very versatile

[prisma zodiac]

quite a lot of levels are generally
Tho the advantage of choke mod + 2 sniper-sentrys/bio/mines is bigger than sniper + burst sentrys

[honest lotus]

I only went for burst as the smalls were more likely to over run us
But sniper allows u to focus 4 people on clearing the smalls instead of 3

[prisma zodiac]

especially with burst potentially just kicking of a giants head for no real gain

[honest lotus]

Trueee

[prisma zodiac]

and funnily enough sniper sentry kills smalls quickly anyway
(and those doors mined make everything a breeze anyway)

[honest lotus]

E1 double sniper bio is so nice

[red breach]

FUN FACT, you can actually kill the immortal

https://i.imgur.com/cqj2sTo.jpeg 4 sniper sentries, hellshotguns and percision rifles

[fading tinsel]

Can't beat this part in E2, did someone complete this one?

[hard horizon]

bruh wtf

[nocturne flax]

Homie have cheat

[mossy marsh]

activate windows

[nocturne flax]

Open eval door

Activate windows

[sonic pelican]

the 4:3

[mild violet]

Yea, the immortal, isn't. It just has ~a billion effective health due to it's damage reduction. It's actual HP pool iirc is only 9,999,999

[jaunty lava]

Should I do C2 first or D1 first?

[hard cape]

c2 for sure. the terminal in D1 is confusing

[jaunty lava]

and tips/recommendation for c2? like load out rec?

[last gust]

bio, mines, double sentry

funnel most alarms

try to study a bit of what's in the level in advance on a terminal

[craggy tangle]

guys

is c2 updated

[nocturne flax]

No levels uptdated

🐸

[craggy tangle]

i can't deactivate fog with 5 cells in the end

[deft kiln]

that is a checkpoint bug

[craggy tangle]

whaaaaaaaat

[deft kiln]

yup

[craggy tangle]

it fked my run lol

i thought its updated

[nocturne flax]

Theyre on vacation

And you need 6 out 6 to fully get fog out afair

[craggy tangle]

what about e1, I watched someone's e1 video, seems like light is off in the end

during extraction

[last gust]

when they patch it (assuming they do), the effect will likely be to ensure that 6 cells must be in for fog to lower, checkpoint or no

[nocturne flax]

I donnt recall anything like that on e1

[craggy tangle]

yeah

[nocturne flax]

There is a section that its dark

[craggy tangle]

im so confused why was the light off

[nocturne flax]

Yyou probably skipped to the stealth section

The stealth section with [spoilers and shit]

[craggy tangle]

i was surely blind lol

for c3pe is it better to do main and overload first and then do extreme?

i mean do the ex scan at the end

and then go back to extraction

[last gust]

most painless order for c3pe is probably secondary -> main -> overload

[craggy tangle]

ok we did it like that before

im thinking if it is better

[last gust]

getting back to secondary scan with protocol waves seems like more pain than it's worth

all you're gaining is not having to do protocol in darkness

and I guess shadow waves might not spawn during protocol?

but the shadow waves are pretty small

[craggy tangle]

damn that makes sense

[last gust]

and for all I know, maybe they spawn if you crack secondary bulkhead

I'm not sure what the waves are attached to

but imo you're not changing protocol difficulty much either way

and going all the way back to secondary sector with tanks spawning in and whatnot seems bad

[craggy tangle]

tks man I'll forget that shit

[last gust]

I mean you could try it for a meme

if you already have c3pe done

[solemn wigeon]

Also the run back and forth seems kinda tedious

A lot of effort, just for no shadows

[craggy tangle]

wait is there any tank wave in c3?

[last gust]

at 0:00

usually you would try to extract before it gets a chance to catch up to you

it is a recurring spawn

so if you were to hang around in the level long enough you'd fight more tanks

[craggy tangle]

seems like we were fast enough last time lol

glad to know that

[mortal granite]

you also have to put the command in, in extreme terminal

if you just put the code in and walk away

when you used checkpoint, the code changed

so you have to re-fetch it again

[last gust]

actually it might be a little after 0:00

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1510225942?t=1h48m30s

[mortal granite]

0:00 is when it trigger

[last gust]

you can hear the tank spawn sometime after 0:00

[mortal granite]

but it will spawn 2 rooms away or something

[last gust]

it might just be backed up in the spawn queue

[velvet flower]

It's like 50 seconds after 0:0

[craggy tangle]

i remember last time we were already in front of the extraction when it was 0:00

we don't even know there are tanks inc3

[mortal granite]

when you on the extraction, it trigger a charger wave

might got spawn capped and didn't spawn a tank in time

[last gust]

um what? I've never seen the charger wave

I've seen the charger wave that spawns after 2nd uplink in overload

[mortal granite]

yes

there is a charger wave at extraction

[velvet flower]

If you extract as soon you can, the tank basically can't reach you in time.

[mortal granite]

you could have a wave behind spawn blocking the charger spawn

i have that too on my first c3pe

[pulsar grotto]

I only have seen the charger wave few mins before timer runs out

Never seen it upon extract

[mortal granite]

and then on the second completion, i got the charger wave spawn on extract

[craggy tangle]

so it's all uncertainty

[pulsar grotto]

Interesting

[mortal granite]

but it was way too slow for them to catch up, we basically at 90% and a single charger finally made it

[pulsar grotto]

Well since the spawn queue is constantly loaded sometimes certain things don't make it

[velvet flower]

Don't recall a charger wave on extration.

[hard cape]

there was. but they are mixed. giants and chargers. If I remember right

[deft kiln]

did you happen t o finish the overload really late and run all way to extract might be some of the overload wave getting blocked

[mortal granite]

in my run, we finished overload kinda late

but it's still enough time to run from overload to escape

[deft kiln]

yeah makes sense most of mine look like that too

[hard cape]

can there be more ways of doing a mission? I still don't get it why there are so many keys that need to be found and so many bio scan to do? Why do we need bio security scan anyway? The monsters are already everywhere. They don't need bio scan to get inside some zone but we humans do? What's more, the uplinks clearly doesn't make any sense. I don't even know what uplinks really achieve. There are so many locked security doors that make Giganta looks like a huge bank safe

[mortal granite]

it's gameplay

if you're going to ask thing like that

why don't the government just nuke the complex?

[main mango]

the scans and keys are to unlock security areas

most of them are likely sealed off in an attempt to contain the facility

it did not work

the monsters are in all the zones because they're infected who were there before it was sealed by security protocols

[hard cape]

Imagine before the outbreak, instead of immediately open a door, workers have to stand in some circles sequentially to pass a security door, some of them splattered some of them team scan. That design is… so much waste of their time

[main mango]

[hard cape]

For example, Jim is a proud worker of Santonian. One day he’s off work and head back to his apartment in GIGANTA. But he can’t open his apartment door. He has to find key_red_123 in his neighbor’s house and do an uplink in the nearby McDonald. After that he has to do a class V team scan with his roommate to finally get back to his sweet apartment

[main mango]

most of the scans are probably warden security protocol related

[mortal granite]

i believed the door will just open up like normal without any scan in the past

[hard cape]

There is a logic/ reason for enemy spawn location in dark soul. And map design will always comply with the background story. I kinda want to see that too in gtfo too

[mortal granite]

why do enemy respawn after you kill them?

[hard cape]

In bloodborn all things are only dream. You can’t kill dream. In darksouls enemies are undead. They lost their mind and will only follow their instinct. since they have dark ring on their body they will just keep respawning. In dark soul2 you can drain their souls by killing them more than a dozen times and they will stop spawning

[mortal granite]

i haven't encountered any dream plot that was actually good

[hard cape]

Try unboxing in csgo.

[mortal granite]

i never play any loot box game either

or never use money to open loot box

[turbid cliff]

He never encountered a joke he understands either

[mortal granite]

but i understand you

[turbid cliff]

NOBODY understands me cries in 14

[kind swan]

but the "ugly bastard" understands you

[solemn wigeon]

Cursed

[prisma zodiac]

someone already explained it…
Its a lockdown. Its a special security containment

most doors would either be open permanently or be easily opened by pulling (maybe some have security scans for special areas).

The keys are also usually on the person going into said area (like GASP key cards in real life). Cells are needed cuz its been left alone for quite a while

[mortal granite]

it would look cooler if the key actually spawn outside of locker/box, and ping-able with terminal

[velvet flower]

Which is collection_case.

[mortal granite]

nice

key that is either on a table or on the ground look cooler since you're getting chase by monster and drop it when running or get killed

[queen field]

Can't ping the USB key on D2 doe

😳

[mortal granite]

illegal usb

[kind swan]

[craggy tangle]

what

we plugged 5 cells into the generator

but fog is still there

wtf

we didnt use checkpoint

[prisma zodiac]

the fog is only supposed to dissapear at 6

it going away at 5 IS the checkpoint bug

[craggy tangle]

noooo

[prisma zodiac]

yeeeees

overload would be god damn boring otherwise

[hard cape]

you can do half of the overload before the 5th cell

[fierce laurel]

overload is boring on 5/6 anyway

[last gust]

didn't we tell you this earlier?

[minor kernel]

quick question does hitting a snatcher with a hammer stun it temporary

[bold widget]

sometimes

its inconsistent

[velvet flower]

Not enough damage even with full back multiplier just by hammer.

[kind swan]

50 dmg to stagger it iirc

[hexed vapor]

Snatcher seems to ignore stagger multis for w/e reason.

Def noticeable w/ HEL Shotgun.

Although you do enough damage at close range that you can still get the stagger anyway.

[mild violet]

I thought something was weird that a single body shot with a choke was staggering the boo, but 2 shots with the Hel wasn't. I didn't think it could be all falloff

From behind, that is

[last gust]

choke shotty's stagger multi shouldn't get it to 1shot staggering snatcher territory

[mortal granite]

even with back damage?

[last gust]

with back damage you shouldn't need the stagger multi

maybe if you get partial back damage I guess

but if you're getting a clean 2x from a weak point or back hit, choke does enough to stagger even without stagger multi

if you land a hit without bonus damage, choke's stagger multi only gets you to ~40

[hard cape]

Is there a way to check audios and text in previous rundowns? I started notice there was audio in the terminal when I was doing cx. I wonder if there is a place where I can get all the audio logs?

Emm I only have rundown 7 since the update.

Also I wonder if gtfo can open the workshop feature in steam like counter strike?

[mortal granite]

https://santonianindustries.com/

work like a terminal

Archive is the storage for log file (text and audio)

[hard cape]

Ty will do that

[mortal granite]

CORRUPTED is some kind of storage for new rundown teaser stuff

they haven't updated all r7 log into archive007 yet

[bitter lantern]

Hey my team cannot seem to beat the S alarm in C1. We tried bringing 3 sniper sentries but we still got crushed by giants

Any idea?

Captain Alpha's guide helped us. We'll bring more mines and foam.

[true oak]

man E1 is hard

last night kept wiping on 4th terminal, tonight i can't get past that 1st blood door

[solemn wigeon]

You playing with bots?

[true oak]

no

[solemn wigeon]

Randoms?

[true oak]

for tonight ya

[solemn wigeon]

There's your problem

You just haven't had enough to drink

[mild violet]

The Hel, not the choke.

Choke staggers reliably, Hel doesn't.

[vocal geode]

Choke Mod my beloved

[deft kiln]

It is weird a full charge hammer should stun snatchers it just doesn’t. the 100 stagger dmg just doesn’t work

[queen field]

Something doesn't work in GTFO ?

Incredible !

[fierce laurel]

how did you get 100

[fallow delta]

It is the stagger damage of a fully charged hammer @fierce laurel

20 dmg per 5 multi

[nocturne flax]

HOLY SHIT

Neva seen that shit before

[fierce laurel]

doesn't the snatcher have armor

[sharp merlin]

on its head

only

[fierce laurel]

oh

[fallow delta]

is the more vulnerable part where the tentacles are?

not sure where to shoot it

[deft kiln]

i think it is just back dmg

[fallow wasp]

Shoot it anywhere you can

[half hornet]

Shoot it in red spots

[fallow wasp]

The things move too fast most of the time to be able to properly aim

[fallow delta]

good point

anyone has data on it? curious to know its HP

[half hornet]

So mostly back and stomach right as it prepares to attack

[sharp merlin]

250

[fallow delta]

ah, that's a fair bit

[sharp merlin]

ridiculously high

[deft kiln]

50 dmg to stagger*

[fallow delta]

so you need to do 50 damage before he steals you

[half hornet]

That's a chonky boy

[fallow delta]

as i assume the stagger is what makes him run

[sharp merlin]

he kinda always runs

:o

[fallow delta]

i mean

yea

run away

[deft kiln]

the snatchers kinda have two modes

coming to get you and running away from you they just switch between the two

[turbid egret]

2 modes 1 goal

[sharp merlin]

they also kinda just hibernate and sit there between modes

[fallow delta]

Weird guys. I just blasted them to death the first time i saw them

it scared the crap out of me cause we never had something THAT fast

this guy is on steroids

[queen field]

We did in fact

backpedalling tanks

😳

[fallow delta]

imagine that's their way to stop kiting

oh yea

did someone beat these solo?

[queen field]

wot

[fallow delta]

like C1

[queen field]

you can beat tanks solo

[sharp merlin]

i did a few today :p

[queen field]

yes

[fallow delta]

nono, not tanks

[queen field]

C1 was done solo

[fallow delta]

these snatchers

ah f

[sharp merlin]

choke shotgun easily can solo

[queen field]

Everything was done solo actually

[sharp merlin]

^ without door bug

[fallow delta]

already? i just did C1 yesterday

[sharp merlin]

rundown's been out for a month

[fallow delta]

uh

well i'm late

[queen field]

Though for D2 & E1 there is another exploit

cough spawn cap cough

[deft kiln]

you can hammer snatchers solo it is just annoying

[queen field]

They have 220 HPs

male giants have 120

have fun 😳

[sharp merlin]

250 i thought frined

[queen field]

was it ?

[fallow delta]

imagine if the really strong shotgun was here still

the one from r6

[queen field]

I forgor 💀

[fallow delta]

just blast em in 1 shot

[queen field]

nah

it wouldn't OS them

their weakspot is on the back

[fallow delta]

oh wait it got nerfed

[queen field]

Unless you had a very clear view on their back you wouldn't OS them

[sharp merlin]

two shot?

[fallow delta]

probably close to 2, yea

i don't know its back dmg multi

he kinda exposes his back a lot

[sharp merlin]

i thought back dmg multi was universal

[fallow delta]

i believe some enemies have less no? lemme check

[deft kiln]

yeah it is besides tank and mom i believe

[sharp merlin]

ofc

since u arent really shooting their backs

their bulbs are different entities

[fallow delta]

i didn't even notice the bulbs on these guys for how quick they are

are they like the mother ones?

and tank?

also yea you are right, always 2. It's the head multi that changed @sharp merlin

(aside bosses)

[queen field]

mothers & tanks yes

big flyers do have tumors as well but not the same

on their back as well

[fallow delta]

never saw big flyers so far

[sharp merlin]

i was talking about tank and mom

[queen field]

😔

[sharp merlin]

heres a picture of the hitbox i guess

green head = no go

[fallow delta]

what the hell, that looks like donkey kong

[sharp merlin]

its in its tpose

and no tentacles

since those arent base mesh

more like ingame effects

[fallow delta]

interesting

ok so no shoot head, shoot back, noted

also what is the catch of high caliber pistol? in terms of raw numbers, it seems a 1 bullet shotgun

[sharp merlin]

30 iirc

fall off range is short tho

[deft kiln]

it does the same as the shotguns you would be correct

[fallow delta]

isn't it just a stronger shotgun then?

oh stagger multi

[sharp merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACC4ju9Ag_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmsrQq3xFNM

heres a good couple vids

[fallow delta]

appreciated

weird doh, i expected something about the high cal to be worse than shotguns

maybe fire rate? the only thing i noticed is stagger multi

[mild violet]

Firerate and recoil are both significantly worse than the shotguns, though the damage falloff and max range are the same

[fallow delta]

oh i see

that explains it

ALSO THEY NERFED MY DMR

goddamit

that explains why i wasn't hitting hip fire

[mild violet]

Frankly, I find it to be an unhappy middleground between Choke Mod and Shotty, being unfit for precision sniping at range like choke due to short range, and being too ammo inefficient with it's reload to clear hordes.
It's a great flier killer, but that's really too niche for it to be valuable.

[fallow delta]

it has the same efficiency has a choke mod

they literally do the same damage

well minus 00.02 i guess

[mild violet]

And you shouldn't be using choke to clear waves.

Choke is for bursting bosses and bodying giants. Pretty awful at everyhting else mainly due to it's mag cap. (Okay for small charger error waves like B3)

[fallow delta]

how much can it hold again?

like 4?

[fallow delta]

fair enough

[mild violet]

High cal is 6. Shotty is 8

[fallow delta]

Heavy AR is unchanged apparently..

didn't it get a recoil nerf?

[mild violet]

Problem is, High cal's damage falloff starts at...6? 9? Choke is 15.

Yea, big recoil nerf

Holding trigger climbs you to Narnia.

[fallow delta]

let me go find out how bad it is

cause that weapon was nutty

[mild violet]

I use it like an extended mag pistol now. 😛 Full Auto is nightmarish to control past point blank.

[fallow delta]

mmh.. well

it is managable but, not to stay accurate for sure

[hallow lark]

Dmr got nerfed?

[fallow delta]

hip spread did

it went from like.. 0.5? to 2.5

[hallow lark]

How so? There wasn’t any of this in the current patch notes

[prisma zodiac]

also 0.5??

more precise than aimed

[turbid cliff]

spread on sights is always 0 afaik

and also smells like bs

yeah DMR spread has been 2.5 for a long time

since R5 at least

and before that it was 4.5 so

[turbid cliff]

@errant vigil btw i added falloff to the sheet as a comment

Since ereggia is gone somewhere

[errant vigil]

[last gust]

deagle's fire rate is actually faster than pump shotty

and the recoil might feel substantial, but if you use it for any amount of time you'll find it just doesn't matter at all

you rarely need a fire rate faster than 0.6s for a shotgun-style special though, so it's not that important

[last gust]

8m range before falloff (pump shotty is 4m, choke is 15m) and worse precision multiplier (deagle is 0.74, pump and choke are 1)

8m makes it slightly dicey into chargers, but choke's clip size and reload time makes it dicey into any significant amount of chargers

I'd honestly prefer to have the extra clip size and sometimes have to chip out with main

also if a choke pellet doesn't land you're in the same predicament

[last gust]

for 4man I agree that you can probably specialize into the waveclear pump or the support choke, and that makes deagle a weird inbetween that you'd struggle to find a purpose for

but it's the only gun I've taken on duos

where the roles have been "waveclear", served by a duos partner who has mostly taken pump, and "waveclear but giving up some waveclear to get a bit of support potential", which the deagle does beautifully

it's actually getting a little dull

r6 duos had 3, maybe 4 specials

r7 duos have 2

[nocturne flax]

Damn its like this game its for like 4 people and shit

[last gust]

coulda fooled me

[nocturne flax]

Nobody gives a shit about solo and duo

Specially for balancing

[last gust]

I don't expect the devs to care about solo and duo for balancing purposes

[nocturne flax]

As a matter of fsct

[last gust]

but the vets have basically all disappeared

I do expect the devs to care somewhat about 4man for level difficulty

and in that regard r7 isn't there

on the other hand it's actually a great duos rundown

terrible solo rundown

but I don't get 4mans getting sweaty about weapon balance more than a month into r7, at all

[half hornet]

tryhards gonna tryhard no matter what

[queen field]

People are doing exactly what the devs wanted them to do

i.e. playing at the beginning of a rundown then not playing anymore

[half hornet]

well, beating it* and then playing something else while next levels are released

[queen field]

Beating it

aka the thing that doesn't last more than a week for those who're used to the game

[mossy marsh]

to be fair, what end up being a challenge for extremely experienced players fits the spot that some absurdly balanced modded rundowns fill

[nocturne flax]

I havent seen a single person sweat on builds this rundown tbh

[obtuse surge]

beating it

[mossy marsh]

[nocturne flax]

All the sweatyness happen when hel weaponry was kn the special 😫 🐸

[half hornet]

Well yeah, that's what you get for being a veteran.
Also lack of job could have something to do with it... I only managed to beat the whole rundown last week, and only because mr Hollow Knight (forgot the name) carried me through of some of the more bullshit levels

[last gust]

my sense speaking to a few of the vets is that they're still bitter about it

but it's kinda not my issue I guess

[nocturne flax]

Active player, get called a vet

Me: i didnt retire yet 😫

[last gust]

fwiw, I was one of the rare r6 enjoyers

to me, r7 has been a comparable experience to r6

definitely not meaningfully harder at its peak

and having listened to the player base complain about r6 being too easy for 6 months, the radio silence on r7 is weird

[queen field]

Idk if you're implying that i'm unemployed but i'm not

[mossy marsh]

radio silence? they are just on vacation lol

[queen field]

There's a point after which you understand how the game works in its majority & you can guess the entirety of the level simply by looking at a terminal

[last gust]

the players?

[nocturne flax]

The devs

[last gust]

yeah I don't know why the devs being on vacation is relevant to the discussion

[mossy marsh]

ah

I thought you referred to the devs lol

idk

What made R7 miles better for me was just the performance improvements

that alone makes the game not feel trash to play

[half hornet]

definetely that, big yes

[queen field]

It was the lighting to me

Compared to R6 which was like playing 500m close to the Sun, the lighting in R7 made it a lot darker

[atomic escarp]

gotta listen to the r6 veterans

they worked very hard on pink palette

it's really mentally draining to checkpoint 8 hours for an expedition

[hallow lark]

The most infuriating thing regarding R6 is the lack of support for deaf/hard of hearing

(Well.. based on my experiences and r6 is my first rundown)

[mossy marsh]

accessibility and gtfo are two words that don't go together lad

[obtuse surge]

matchmaking try not to get D1 challenge

[queen field]

lack of support for anything ngl

[obtuse surge]

i got a match that wasn't D1 but then got the bug where someone is invis and you eventually dc

lets gooo

[queen field]

Be it handicapped people, people who can't stand glitches, etc

💀

[nocturne flax]

To be fair, it really is

Just imagine bashing your head for 8 hours straight or even leaving the game open for 8 hours straight

[queen field]

I wouldn't stand it tbh

After using the same checkpoint 2 or 3 times i just consider the level to not be doable with the current team

[mortal granite]

that modded rundown part is kinda debatable

[mossy marsh]

[mortal granite]

from my experience, modded is either = to devs rundown difficulty or easier

[mossy marsh]

I mean, I'm fine if D/E tier levels are some crazy wacky hard as fuck bullshit, but it shouldn't be present in lower levels

[mortal granite]

the thing is, you have to be reasonable difficult

and not throw in a bunch of surge alarm or random bs just to make the level hard

[mossy marsh]

unless we go full force and have all hard, but high quality like R5
but that certainly ends up hurting more than helping

error alarm every door

[mortal granite]

if you look back at R5

most of them are hard because the devs literally use everything in their arsenal

fog? poison

poison fog? spitter in the mix

spitter in mix? Error alarm

error alarm? Charger error alarm

[mossy marsh]

mfw big charger error

[mortal granite]

like that

it hard, but it looked stupid

[fierce laurel]

R5 was definitely not high quality

it was hard for the sake of being hard

[mortal granite]

could we stop being nostalgia about older rundown

[mossy marsh]

im not nostalgic

I fucking hate R5, although I enjoyed it at the same time

[mortal granite]

we kept having nostalgia talk about older rundown

especially rundown 2

[last gust]

r5 quality was certainly a mixed bag

they seemed to do a better job of using overloads and harder tiers to challenge vets, though

[fierce laurel]

I mean theres not that much to talk about in R7

it a good rundown with it' highs and D1s, but that's about it

[mortal granite]

the devs really want people to do high and then slowly do extreme and overload

[wary olive]

i dont think anything the devs do can convince people to play that way, so many people will just go for PE first even if they aren't ready for it

D3PE pub nightmare flashbacks

[kind swan]

Probably late as hell but High cal only does like 22.23 on headshots.
0.7413x precision multi

Versus choke being able to do full 30 (assuming all pellets are connecting)

[last gust]

yeah, pointed out indirectly via precision multiplier

[deft kiln]

i mean 52.23 vs 60 isnt that much and that is with every pellet hitting idk

[last gust]

but also half the heads in the game break

[deft kiln]

yeah it doesnt change much besides chok mod being able to one shot giant strikers to the back of the head

[last gust]

hitting shooter and hybrid heads with choke shotty can be viable though

[deft kiln]

yeah fair enough choke isnt bad high cal isnt really either

the pull out time is probs it's best stat

for high cal

[last gust]

they're both inadequate in some subjective absolute sense

but that's kind of r7's charm

[deft kiln]

it really is

[last gust]

like, r5 had chargers everywhere

too bad we had hel rifle

r6 had chargers in 2 levels

a lot of them in those levels, but we had hel gun

shooting the cluster scan in d2 with hel gun was filthy

[queen field]

shooting ?

perma foam 💀

[last gust]

this is the part where I say something about duos again

[deft kiln]

yeah i was about to say

would it not be easier to do the stealth mom area ? or where you using the error to deactivate something else

[last gust]

I stole the double hel gun + double sniper sentry strat from eva

it was very effective

[deft kiln]

honeslty sounds like fun

[last gust]

permafoaming just didn't buy enough time for a duo

ya duoing r6 was a lot of fun

[deft kiln]

and then you also have to bring mine. kinda hurts the rest of the level

[last gust]

but r7 has chargers everywhere without hel specials

[mossy marsh]

hel shotgun

[last gust]

which goes some way to making chargers an actual threat for once

...yeah hel shotgun really is a special masquerading as a main

not great against chargers though

also for all the chargers everywhere in r7, the only place you can get dunked by a charger alarm is like, e1

and the arena scan is foamable

I guess d2 for a bit

[deft kiln]

d2 pre patch giant chargers

were crazy

[last gust]

d2 you can seem to get dunked by charger giants if you stay in corridor rooms for too long

or on extract

[deft kiln]

100%

[last gust]

guess I wanted an alarm that drowns you in regular chargers

[sharp merlin]

r7e1 was probably supposed to be that

if devs didnt fuck up spawn direction

[wary olive]

thats why i laughed at someone recommending bullpup/chokemod for d2. goodluck when the boys roll in as a squad

[kind swan]

It can't do that btw

Titans back of head only totals to 90 for choke

[deft kiln]

shit yup your right i am doing bad math

[kind swan]

Titan head is 1.5x and ofc back being 2x

3x

Occi

[nocturne flax]

But alpha, its the best one!

R2e1 totally wasnt rush at the end

[kind swan]

Ironically. I was staggering chargers pretty well when I did my B3PE run with Hel shotty

[nocturne flax]

Hel shotty busted

Stagger mania

Just spam thar shit

[kind swan]

Given you have teammates to get the actual kills while you're staggering them

[nocturne flax]

If you funneling with it you dont even need the teammate

🐸

[kind swan]

Given my team set up. I use it more support role than damage

As one of my friends struggles up close

But at a distance he's got the shots

[nocturne flax]

I mean you got the spread of a elephants ass

[kind swan]

[nocturne flax]

You gonna stagget someone kekw

[kind swan]

Tbh whenever I play pubs and see hel shotty.

I always hear that thing being spammed and it makes me cringe

[nocturne flax]

Its literally how you play all hel weaponry

[kind swan]

[hallow lark]

I’m definitely anti-Hel

[kind swan]

True. But man it just eats at me since I use it like an auto pistol stagger machine

[wary olive]

it took me a while to realize you can just hold LMB for hel shotty

[kind swan]

Ye

[nocturne flax]

All weapons are support weapons if you know where to shoot

[hallow lark]

I just can’t operate a hel weapon… either mid range or close range for stuff

[kind swan]

The only times I use full auto for hel shotty are giants and none of my teammates are near or my special is empty clip

[nocturne flax]

It is the same as combat shotgun

[hallow lark]

While I’m just here in the back shooting and not killing stuff cuz dmg falloff

[kind swan]

Funny pistol one shot stagger on strikers

Seeing a bot do it makes me laugh

[last gust]

you know it's ammo-efficient into bigs as well, right?

10-shots giants

[kind swan]

I tend to stagger than swap and use special wep on giants

[last gust]

its damage per refill is nearly up there with the shotguns

bring a revolver or a HAR and you're in efficiency city

[kind swan]

More likely would bring a har

But ironically

Used it with High cal or pump

[last gust]

lol, hel shotty + deagle

the c2 solo loadout

[kind swan]

Reload time pain

[last gust]

it might help if the baseline gun didn't overshadow half the rest of the rundown arsenal even before factoring in overpen

[nocturne flax]

Pen is king when your max cap its 30

Kekw

Even if you nerf damage and all thar crap still you just spam like usual

Theres no way to really nerf hel weaponry apart from leaving thwm in special imo

And the reload

Goddam my saussagw fingwe phone too small

[mossy marsh]

stop talking in uwu

[kind swan]

Make all hel weapons have charge time and make the charge times longer

[mossy marsh]

[nocturne flax]

So back to rundown 3

Good days

[mossy marsh]

hmm

[nocturne flax]

I really liked hel weaponry in r3

[mossy marsh]

wonder if reducing stagger to virtually none in hel weaponry would do much

[nocturne flax]

Nothinf

[mossy marsh]

[kind swan]

Damage stagger kek

[nocturne flax]

Your stagger comes from limb stagger anyways

Thats why 99.9% of all hel weaponry its no brain spam

[kind swan]

Only gun no stagger multi on hel weapons it would hurt is Hel shotty

[nocturne flax]

^ pretty much

[nocturne flax]

Uwu

🐸

[kind swan]

[strange junco]

what does OSIP stand for again

(osip hormone, c2 overload)

asking here just incase its a spoiler

also what does it do lore wise

[fierce laurel]

shit I forgot noooo

not spoiler btw try asking in #gtfo-lore or #gtfo-related-questions

[hallow lark]

Question.., is there something else during darkroom in 108-110 for something else?

Says push through or explore for options

[kind swan]

B3 I'm assuming

[hallow lark]

Yes

[kind swan]

right side room terminal turns some lights back on

[hallow lark]

Which room?

109?

[kind swan]

alarm that leads to bulkhead key

I don't remember the zone # specifically unfortunately

the 2 extra cells go to generators inside the zones to open the next door.

each Zone Area has 3 GLPs

The Error Alarm of enemies also get bigger the further you progress

gotta check every nook and cranny for all 3 GLPs in each zone

if needed. use the terminal to ping them

[light lagoon]

^

Basically learn the terminal locations in each zone, those don't change. After triggering the alarm move the cells forward and have someone rush the terminal, list the GLPs in the zone you're in and ping each one while others hold. There are always 3 GLPs in each zone and only move into the next one once you have acquired all 3, as each door makes the waves more challenging.

[kind swan]

no snatchers

[light lagoon]

True solo or solo with bots?

[kind swan]

yeah

bots can't climb ladders when carrying items like those

[light lagoon]

Only bother giving them the cells on the path to this whole area. After that you're better off ferrying the cells yourself, even if it's slower. You can use a cell for both Zone 14 + 17, meaning you'll only have to carry one cell into the next zones and you can path straight for the generator to get it out of your hands.

[hallow lark]

There’s a terminal in 109 but no commands regarding power.

[light lagoon]

Make use of sentries to help with the waves behind you and just do what I said otherwise, rush the terminal and ping the GLPs.

[light lagoon]

The terminal is in 108 IIRC. It's to the "right" after you first enter the dark respawn rooms.

[kind swan]

yee

[hallow lark]

Ah piss ok

[light lagoon]

The lights aren't super necessary tbh, it's more just a convenience thing.

[hallow lark]

They are to me since I’m deaf

[kind swan]

[light lagoon]

You have eyes though Wyvern, you can generally see anything once you're out of the fog (which is only in 108). 👀

[kind swan]

[light lagoon]

And other than making a path it's not worth the time killing things in 108 Since they're respawn rooms anyway.

[kind swan]

rng whether 108 or the way to it is highly populated or not

[hallow lark]

Is the terminal through the first door on right?

[kind swan]

go through small door then through the big door further right

[hallow lark]

I’m not interested in killing things…I’m more interesting is visual improvements XD

There’s another door?

[light lagoon]

Entering from the security room, take the small lower door on the right. Get through the standing height fog and it's through the large door on the right.

That room will be above the fog level.

[hallow lark]

Ah fuck this. I’m just gunna go in the dark instead… my pdw showed very large amount of mobs in said area

[light lagoon]

108 Is usually quite populated. 109 Is quite peaceful comparably (first room usually has a couple of giants and smalls, next room a couple of smalls and the third room has the Scout) and 110 Is a bit more filled but easily stealthable.

That's my experience with it anyway.

[kind swan]

at the very least Wyvern can't hear the fact the Precision rifle has sniper sfx when it shoots

[kind swan]

rng. 108 can be entirely empty :/

[light lagoon]

For me the first room is usually only lightly populated, the second room has mostly been packed and the third room is a mix.

[kind swan]

sometimes the path going to the door to it is populated. sometimes clear

just rng

[light lagoon]

Basically either the second or third room is packed in my runs. If the second is packed, then the third is pretty empty and vice versa.

I've had good RNG Though with the path to the sec door usually as well as the door to the terminal.

[hallow lark]

108 is extremely packed (2nd room that is)

[light lagoon]

I've only had triggers in those rooms thanks to my mates.

[hallow lark]

At least 17 mobs in said room

[light lagoon]

I still won't forget our first run when, in that second room (which was packed) one of the group just decided "Let's fight it for fun" and I just facepalmed immediately.

[kind swan]

can't ever trust them. mf always making extra movements creeping behind you fuckin up stealth

[hallow lark]

Lol!

[light lagoon]

That explains my group completely.

[hallow lark]

I had my fair share of scaring the crap outta my teammates when it comes to stealthing in R6

[light lagoon]

The best example was tonight doing C3.

[hallow lark]

Cuz I have no way to hear mobs pulse

[light lagoon]

Me and one of them enter a room after the main uplink, there's a VERY CLEAR GAP between the two of us. There's an enemy ahead of us but I'm waiting to close the door to the room behind us.

Third guy walks into the room in between us, walks right into said enemy triggering him, then panics and backs up towards the other room.