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vernal glen
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lean tusk
Speedrun of getting banned for spamming: SUCCESSFUL
median quarry
Not banned yet
gritty crater
that makes we wonder whether ban% exists somewhere
median quarry
@ mods UwU
hasty summit
we tried several times today, but I guess it wasn't going to work π¦ Tomorrow we will try again π https://gtfo-randomiser.herokuapp.com/daily
hasty summit
well in 3 hours we will see what happens :D
Well, from Wednesday at the latest, I'll keep trying until it works. You have more time for it on holiday π
hasty summit
I'm glad I'm on holiday now but I don't have a consistent team,
That's a shame π¦ It's a great game and the daily missions really make you want to play the game again.
neon agate
When full release comes out, I think the randomiser will become less useful
glad nest
C1 Layered% in 19:12 https://youtu.be/sozHrqakb7o
hasty summit
Guys, where are you? https://gtfo-randomiser.herokuapp.com/daily
hasty summit
When full release comes out, I think the randomiser will become less useful
Why do you think that?
neon agate
Well when the full release comes out, and their rundown model finally shines with its 2 weeks in between some and months between others,people may not have time to do these randomisers as they will be busy completing the base game first
neon agate
Guys, where are you? https://gtfo-randomiser.herokuapp.com/daily
Also true. We want competition π©
hasty summit
Well when the full release comes out, and their rundown model finally shines wit...
Yes well, that could be for people who only want to play the base game. But people like us are always looking for new challenges
neon agate
Some people won't have time but only on the short rundown
hasty summit
Some people won't have time but only on the short rundown
We'll have to wait and see what's in store for us and how it all turns out. In any case, your page must get much more attention, because that makes the game again really tingling!
neon agate
Yep. Sadly today's loadout is basically perfect for D1 Extreme
elfin crow
today loadout is mallet superior
hasty summit
Yes well that is true, but our time was not so good. We took a lot of time. I think I will try again with another group. Thanks to the daily task I played new weapons. Otherwise I only take the smg, the burst and the mines.
hasty summit
today loadout is mallet superior
Haha Yes 
elfin crow
neon agate
elfin crow
no
neon agate
What are you gonna do about it
hasty summit
We will see
hasty summit
who can do it even faster? https://gtfo-randomiser.herokuapp.com/daily
thick ruin
might find more activity in those leaderboards once r5 comes out and people want to play with their new toys
neon agate
true
hasty summit
Lucrezia is like an automatic share message lol
You have to motivate people
neon agate
ya :(
crystal tinsel
Well when the full release comes out, and their rundown model finally shines wit...
You also have potatoes like me and my friend, who would probably go into our 1st expedition attempt blind, with randomized loadouts and try to duo it. It would make A, B tier quite the experience.
neon agate
friends
hasty summit
glad nest
Every time I come in to the speedrun channel hoping to see a new speedrun or something, but it isn't the case 
neon agate
In a way it is a speedrun but a stupid one :^)
hasty summit
Every time I come in to the speedrun channel hoping to see a new speedrun or som...
You can also do the daily and post it so that it is also speedrun.
lean tusk
strong kiln
aight
dense bane
ay
neon agate
People starting to get competitive on the daily
@crystal tinsel Get your video up already :^)
crystal tinsel
Base processing in queue fsr. From what I understand, it's processing the 2k video version 1st instead of the base resolution
neon agate
π©
neon agate
Pog run
crystal tinsel
1:12:25
neon agate
If you do today's daily challenge; D1 Extreme with the 2 sniper sentries and 2 cfoam launcher, ignore the expired, timer broke
drowsy sun
neon agate
Pogging. Not even sub 39 tho ;)
worn crag
anyone wanna help on A1?
shy vault
.t lfg
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mossy orchid
Hey someone herek,we need 2 for A3
shy vault
.t lfg
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sudden ruin
done! https://gtfo-randomiser.herokuapp.com/daily
damn this looks like great idea!
stoic urchin
||I was thinking what would make a solo e1 run even possible, the only thing I can think of is letting all 5 tanks spawn, and luring them somewhere in the level before the first surge alarm to a place where their AI bugs out and thus allows you to complete the level just like any other.|| There are spots you can stand in E1 that will make the tanks freeze in place and just stare at you, but thats not enough.
upbeat tusk
the alarm still spawn enemy when you capped 5 tanks
stoic urchin
Up to a cap of like 23?
upbeat tusk
||There is a bug in E1 Error alarm that make it spawn only 5 tanks, the correct number should be around 13 tan ks||
stoic urchin
Oh ok
lean tusk
Current strat for e1 solo is max capping shooters and having the best floor gameplay of your life
crystal tinsel
how far have people even gotten with solo attempts on E1?
median quarry
yes
lean tusk
I think second or third alarm?
vernal glen
lean tusk
analog basin
anyone have any links to the good E1 solo runs?
sand moon
no one soloed e1
analog basin
yeah but surely the people who got the farthest saved their runs
analog basin
but an E1 solo completion simply won't happen
sand moon
then why do you ask for it?
sand moon
the only strats i saw in there was, lookin g on the floor while having only shooters in a scan
its not really cool, its really boring
glad nest
It's immensely uninteresting, and it's definitely not going to be a speedrun soo lol
And why would you post a video of something partially finished, that makes no sense
wind silo
It will be 24 hours of kiting videos so you can go for it
vernal glen
more like 5h
vernal glen
that would only affect the first 3
add an hour or 2
it's not gonna magically add 20 hours if you decided to do the tiny kites like in the b3 pe solo
people still don't seem to understand that the class 6 would be the "easy" one
imagine saying all solo is kite but not realising the potential of literally kiting the huge entirety of the E1 map (possibly with shadow waves)
upbeat tusk
in the duo run, the class 6 would have been faster if they did that
vernal glen
They could have all doors open and kite regular enemies
and still finish the scan before the horde catches up
50s for duo i think?
they could probably even do 2 per kite
i haven't watched their vid so i don't know what they actually did
vernal glen
upbeat tusk
it took them exactly 1 hour to finish it
hasty summit
https://gtfo-randomiser.herokuapp.com/daily?prev_dailies=2021-03-31 E1 Extreme? Rly? No Chance π¦ but i think it's great that so many people are taking part. that's a huge incentive!!!
keen cobalt
max infection good idea
u cant outrun w/ turbine, running through straggling enemies in fog with 15 max hp seems rly stupid, not even including mother / tank fight with max infection
u can only do it once on the way back
only real duo speedrun tactic is 2 hope for double 4 use ammo and shoot s6
otherwise ur sol
actually nvm then u have no ammo 4 end, u just do what we did tbh idk if theres another way 2 without doing extreme 4 more ammo
vernal glen
it's not max infection if you still have 3 uses of disinfect afterwards
and you could just do the same thing again with the birther
no need to kill
the conversation above wasn't necessarily aimed at speed but just mentioning possible ways to do it
kiting out as far as possible for class 6 seemingly less stressful if you can get over the infection problem
and supposedly it would have been faster than what you did
by a lot
which would just help make it less tedious
keen cobalt
we closed every single door behind us and cfoamed one with turbine, barley got the third scan, it'd probably be 1 scan per
so ur still running through the waves in the fog at 99% infection, u can just disinfect mid run
the disinfect is only useful after, being at 1% hp while running thru mobs seems like such a good way to sui
the disinfect is only useful after for the tank fight it doesnt make doing that any less of a throw
vernal glen
i mean
huge out of fog section on both ends
so just don't run through the fog until you've gathered them
i have tested it and it will not be 1 scan at all
it's literally minutes
with open doors leading them through the longest path
while you sprint at max speed through the shortest path
keen cobalt
ya then ur looping for 5+ minutes to make sure no stragglers in fog so ur overall scan is still 30 min at the tradeoff of adding risk and doing mom fight at 45 / 65% infection
its not like e1 duo is a speed run category idk why u'd add that risk
taking a 3-4 hour run down by 30 min at the chance of throwing isnt 4 me but u do u
vernal glen
what risk are you adding? the looping isn't a valid point because that's what you were constantly doing on your 1h clear... For the fight, as mentioned you could still opt not to kill and just do another run. If you do choose to kill, health drops incredibly slow so you could totally overheal to deal with the birther
I also wouldn't say that there's no risk in the strat you went with 
keen cobalt
ok u do it then
vernal glen
im trying but my scans are 140s instead of 50s 
glad nest
Gl Wes
next trout
That's a bug.
still estuary
Ok. I haven't tested that bug on the other possible levels (like A2), but since you've seen it I'll delete it
next trout
untold laurel
I SAW IT
hasty summit
Like this! Today's Daily is done! Who can do it faster? π https://gtfo-randomiser.herokuapp.com/daily
vernal glen
My 10:37 A1 solo - https://youtu.be/fYfEuBqa9DM
Not planning to improve it anymore. (rundown 5 
)
runic ingot
I have no idea if I should be proud of this, but at least it's a PB.
A3 solo any% 11:25
https://youtu.be/RDNyFaRBQbk
glad nest
Progress nonetheless Mages
runic ingot
R4A1 Ex 10:49
https://youtu.be/pvX46qT42xI
sinful condor
r4a3 any% duo - 5:42 https://youtu.be/MmV9vweOr_U
teal fulcrum
Yall too fast
runic ingot
R4C1 Ex 16:56
https://youtu.be/_7gavKOOyzU
R4C2 PE 27:06
https://youtu.be/9lGoHpdEtw0
weary oriole
B2 next?
vernal glen
is our current B2 not good enough
gilded forge
weary oriole
B2 Any% says 29:54 which you guys could probably easily beat if u didnt already.
There is no video either 
Such a nice map
weary oriole
ty π
golden elbow
I want see c3pe spdrun
teal fulcrum
Captain alpha video i believe
gilded forge
would imagine itβs up somewhere in the GTFO Korea discord .. just over 32 minutes if I remember correctly
glad nest
The vod doesn't exist anymore iirc unless they downloaded it
I tried to find it a day or so ago
Unless they uploaded it to YT, cause I didn't check there
gilded forge
I know there is a recording as I saw them checking it after the completion on stream. Just need to get a hold of one of the runners to share it
blazing wave
What is the C3PE record ?
upbeat tusk
32 minutes something still
glad nest
What is the C3PE record ?
Whatever time the Korean group got, I have no access to the vod, is the time that is still current WR
ionic halo
I have the VOD, since I've done the splits on live split, lemme find it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVRDAS9x9mg WR 32:28 by Rookie,Klaio,κ°λ§(Kangmal) and Erios
@gilded forge Here's what you needed
Also in the speedrunner server, there's my splits in the resources channel to be able to compare to WR pace 
upbeat tusk
no
because there already multiple people solo that level PE already
there are multiple
and not just on youtube
there is also twitch vod and bilibili
ye, PE
and also
they don't keep record beyond A level either
it became too lengthy to watch
oh, i mean there is more player did it not just mage
sorry about that
ye
it can be done really quickly if you blaze through the level
i watched 1 video
the 4 hours one
hmmm
same strat but faster time
he messed up in extreme
terse spire
He do be running
blazing wave
Whatever time the Korean group got, I have no access to the vod, is the time tha...
Oh they still hold the record. I thought one of you guys would go for a challenge for that one interesting
ionic halo
The old record holders went for it
They had good earlys but died around the end of extreme
ionic halo
If any people are interested in the E1 Extreme WR, I uploaded the splits for this WR on the speedrunning discord, so that you can check your pace
ionic halo
You mean like those C3PE runs? :^)
vernal glen
π₯
nimble jacinth
Whats the fastest E1 
record?
tidal prairie
I thought it was 28 mins but i could be wrong
weary oriole
I thought it was 28 mins but i could be wrong
Extreme in 28 mins?
I think High was 28m by Kolohe and co
tidal prairie
Oh shoot i didnt see he asked for extreme thats my b
weary oriole
Oh shoot i didnt see he asked for extreme thats my b
Np π maybe itβs possible if you guess every code right
ionic halo
E1 
: 28:47
E1 : 58:09
tidal prairie
Np π maybe itβs possible if you guess every code right
Wait are you not supposed to be guessing every code
weary oriole
Was jk
tidal prairie
No ikππ
hasty summit
neon agate
Congrats
twin valley
Wait are you not supposed to be guessing every code
wait you're supposed to put codes in
upbeat tusk
nice
ionic halo
Nice, indeed,
That first tank clear technique was good
ionic halo
Yeah, saw that firsthand
I should have checked the timer but they must be between a rushing and a slower clear
lilac sand
no mine deployer's pov, unfortunately
storm peak
the runner in the above video said that the pov of the NEW E1 speedrun will come out next Friday in China time
thorny kite
FINALLLYY, i did it!!! π₯³ π€©
upbeat tusk
pog
pseudo otter
i'm the 7th liker of your video. now carry me master.
thick ruin
@ fireblade
thorny kite
yep that was definitely a hell trip, my head is still hurting all the days and thx : ), we can play in like 5-7 hours im going to sleep now
ionic halo
Updated the leaderboard, congrats on the first sub 7 solo run
weary oriole
Congrats π been trying to get these spawns for so long and never got them @thorny kite
sinful condor
ima be real @thorny kite , that amount of tool you got is sketch
zone 43 should have 2 use tool and zone 44 should have 3 use tool
you ended up getting a 4 use tool out of both of these zones
sinful condor
π
gilded forge
A2 tool coalesces didnβt you know
median quarry
well well well look who showed up
strong kiln
hmm, not to mention a few other ... interesting things that occured during the run
untold quail
hmmmm
severe willow
thorny kite
ima be real <@!689207732267515975> , that amount of tool you got is sketch
zone ...
nope and thats not how it is buddy : )
sinful condor
keep telling yourself that
thorny kite
i dont wanna write too much because my head is anyway still hurting of that damn level
so go and check youtube i wrote fireblade a comment
gaunt gazelle
how did you manage a mine on the outside of the door before the second scan without it blowing?
sinful condor
how come you left the mod server at 2:20pm today π€
thorny kite
i played with him couple of rounds already and he has me on steam, i played this level all the days to get that run
thorny kite
hmm, not to mention a few other ... interesting things that occured during the r...
which one ?
shy vault
fov is not 120, blatant fake 
thorny kite
how come you left the mod server at 2:20pm today π€
i left also one of the german gtfo servers, so who cares? we played with our group already all the levels and finsihed all the rundowns, so i had the idea also to play with them mod levels, whats the matter and why are you so salty?
vernal glen
you're straight up cheating
muted marsh
Hey, let's please move on and if there's any issue message @worldly gull.
vernal glen
bruh moment
sinful condor
im not the one with the record lol, your're just trying to cover your tracks xd
naive hemlock
strong kiln
π
thorny kite
i watched your speedruns too and had respect on that, what kind of child act is that now lol
gilded forge
eh, just leave it. If you know, you know
severe willow
^
sinful condor
yeah but those who don't know end up going to his vid praising him like he's god π€
jagged sentinel
muted marsh
It's being handled, please let's move on. π
ruby hill
I'm curious what kind of strats some of you are trying just to even complete some of these on solo
ruby hill
I'm still sorta new so I gotta improve a bit. I can kite around but it takes a while to clear them out usually
strong kiln
I'm curious what kind of strats some of you are trying just to even complete som...
For solo speedruns? Unfortunately its a enourmous reliance on rng factors like enemy/pack spawns, objective spawns, etc. but for the most part other than rng factors just efficient and fast alarm and stealth clearing.
As well as just optimizing routes and objectives, but that usually gets found out pretty quick
As a tip i wouldnβt ever try to go for WR off the bat, just go for PB over and over and eventually u might just get there
glad nest
Knowledge of the level is more important than the run time itself
sinful condor
like knowing how much tool you can find π
severe willow
Lmao
glad nest
So like Goose said, completing runs to get better knowledge of how things might play out for you is much more important than actually getting a time to be short at first. After you have the map knowledge you need you can start shaving down time.
gilded forge
Spend time mapping out the entire level, learning different spawn locations and how to best optimize getting to them quickly. High damage output weapons to help you hold scans instead of kiting. Also high damage output tool
glad nest
like knowing how much tool you can find π
How much tool is too much..? π€
strong kiln
that depends π maybe if ur lucky u might get a 4-use in zone 44 π
glad nest
severe willow
calm axle
severe willow
Not the tool refill noooo
shy vault
calm axle
sinful condor
median quarry
Epic tool refill moment
median quarry
Epic ammopack moment
wind silo
Apparently playing enough time at the same level will give you extra resources. I guess we are just not good enough
#themoreyouknow
weary oriole
i wonder how fast i would go with perfect spawns and 4 use ammo in every box
severe willow
5 min or less all at once. Making the impossible happen
calm axle
imagine not being able to do that lol
ruby hill
Thanks for the advice you gave earlier. Right now since I'm still trying to complete each rundown level and get used to the game, I'm wondering what I should know for doing stealth sections quickly and efficiently
weary oriole
bhop, tap on the back of the head for quick kills and try to not alert everyhting at the same time
thick ruin
alerted enemies are silent kills, so if you can ensure you alert only one per kill you can easily clear larger groups
but if you're speedrunning stealth is mostly a suggestion lol
weary oriole
if u solo its good to only kill the enemies that you really need to kill on your way
wind silo
Solo, speedrun and normal run are all different
wind silo
You canβt use speedrun strat in normal run otherwise people think you are trolling/ show-off
π
shy vault
lilac sand
and these sus guys don't have pov, only their teammates upload pov, what a coincidence
upbeat tusk
it's a bit sad that
anytime a chinese guy upload anything, anywhere
they will be sus immediately because of their people history on any game
calm axle
are you referring to the a2 'speedrun' posted earlier?
upbeat tusk
A2 compare with E1 extreme
lilac sand
they will be sus immediately because of their people history on any game
the history is not the reason I sus, my friends got the 50min guy's sms bombing and cyber manhunt. that's why.
wind silo
Who are they lol
ionic halo
are you referring to the a2 'speedrun' posted earlier?
Nah they're referring to two speedruns which took the WR for E1 Extreme, Lowering the record from 58 min to 53, then 50/49m59 depending on your way to count
And I'll be real there, either you have proof they cheated on that specific run, or you don't, I'd rather avoid getting all witchhunty in this chat. If you have actual evidence for it, sure,we'll review it and remove the run if necessary.
I won't be stating on the harassment as I'm not a mod, except that i'm sorry and saddened that it happened for your friend.
upbeat tusk
if we want to make sure it's legit
either stream it 4 person view
or video with other pov
^ these could just only apply to the hardest level
lilac sand
And I'll be real there, either you have proof they cheated on that specific run,...
on the specific run i haven't seen any unusual yet, except the 50min run 2 men defended zone510 without biotrack, even one of these guys using CE, u can hardly tell if u just watch his POV, i just telling u guys what these people really r and I stay my opinion, if they all clean, I wanna see sus guys videos.
ionic halo
I've checked and usually for this kind of coop games, it's usually one run that's submitted, with either the restriction to use a certain game mod (Speedrunning Mod, Payday 2) or enforcing of comms being in the video (Phasmo), in the ruleset
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12v41177n3 (You can't have HD without being logged on)
thick ruin
to be fair i would be curious to see how they defended the reactor without a bio
not saying it invalidates the run, just would be interesting to watch
upbeat tusk
where is the sus part?
lilac sand
where is the sus part?
i didn't say these two sus, the sus guy i said don't have a pov, but u might wanna watch how they defend outside without bio
ionic halo
Around 17-18minutes
Well, the PoV is actually defending 510 without bio against shadows at 18:50
upbeat tusk
defending shadow without bio is doable but
it's inefficient since some shadow might target the other guy
ionic halo
Yeah, you see a shadow tonguing then getting out towards the reactor
wind silo
If the defend outside of the bulkhead, the lighting is good enough to do it without a bio
ionic halo
They defended in 510, so first zone behind the bulkhead
you can see the PoV against shadows
thick ruin
i think that Tbdgas is worried about the other dude aimbotting
upbeat tusk
do we wanna add a rule that's banned the VAC player as well?
thick ruin
cause we don't see his pov
lilac sand
i think that Tbdgas is worried about the other dude aimbotting
he never show his pov, and those people who wants he clarify got his sms bomb and cyber manhunt
wind silo
That kind of sus, I see what you mean now
upbeat tusk
i wanna check how many enemy spawn but i think it's the same as any reactor alarm
the dude on the left are killing more than the dude in the video on the right
ionic halo
I checked, munitions are going down too
thick ruin
the guy with double revolvers is a absolute machine, he just nails those shadows
reminds me of the korean teams lol
weary oriole
good shots
ionic halo
But like there seem to have been a lot of animosity towards them for Cheating even before anything even happened
The Time shave is impressive, but Kolohe said a sub 45 was deffo possible with strats, so idk
They watched most of the VOD for strat's sake, so getting their actual input on it might better
thick ruin
i doubt they are cheating tbh
ionic halo
Me too
bright palm
anyone wanna play?
upbeat tusk
?t lfg
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thick ruin
i think most of the animosity is coming from another chinese team that blatantly aimbotted in a e1 extreme speedrun earlier
couple months back
upbeat tusk
we will always got that uneasy feeling about chinese team
since there is always 1 team that cheat blatantly and ruin it
ionic halo
Yeah, I've seen completely unacceptable behaviour happening when the run dropped
ionic halo
But for me, 4 POV in the rules is not a solution, to be fair
thick ruin
yeah its not realistic to expect it
ionic halo
We also have comms compared to the other video
lilac sand
But for me, 4 POV in the rules is not a solution, to be fair
in this run they have 3 pov, only the guy i sus dont have a pov
ionic halo
I thought it was the people defending 510 that you sus
empty viper
heyy
upbeat tusk
and blocked
ionic halo
and blocked
?
empty viper
right
upbeat tusk
he told you to stfu
glad nest
Amanes the dude is deleting messages
Which is why you really can't tell why he blocked
lilac sand
he told you to stfu
who is this
upbeat tusk
the one i blocked
it's just discord alt account or something like that
the more i blocked, the less annoy i'll be
ionic halo
Which is why you really can't tell why he blocked
Ohhhh okay, thanks
ruby hill
If anyone wants to try more multiplayer speedrun attempts I can try to learn some routes and get used to the movement to help out
thick ruin
If anyone wants to try more multiplayer speedrun attempts I can try to learn som...
if you pull a couple more together I could help get you started, just lmk when
ruby hill
if you pull a couple more together I could help get you started, just lmk when
By pull more together do you mean get a group of other runners together?
thick ruin
yeah
ruby hill
Alright. Well, I'm up to practice anytime you guys want. Typically I can catch on pretty quickly and we can try whichever level is favorable for the group
thick ruin
Alright. Well, I'm up to practice anytime you guys want. Typically I can catch o...
my team is taking a break from gtfo atm, so we'll have to get some others, you could pull in some friends or we can just put up a lfg
ionic halo
I hope it wasn't trying to retake C3PE that caused your team to get a bit burn out :(
ruby hill
I guess we can try an lfg, I don't have many friends who are interested in speedrunning
thick ruin
I hope it wasn't trying to retake C3PE that caused your team to get a bit burn o...
may have contributed a bit, but we'll be back full time with r5
there's only so many hundred hours you can pull out of the same levels
ionic halo
Yeah
especially considering how hard it was to pull it off to get to the end of Extreme
I remember watching your team streams
ruby hill
Yeah, personally I've gotten addicted to the game cause I'm still technically new to it, even though I've noticed everyone else has gotten bored of it which is understandable since you all have been playing this rundown much longer than I have
glad nest
I hope it wasn't trying to retake C3PE that caused your team to get a bit burn o...
Slamming your face into a level hundreds of times for even above mediocre RNG can be draining, I don't blame them tbf lol
ionic halo
Yeah, they had good early, but there's just not much enjoyment you get when 1 run in 50 goes through
just because of the sheer amount of things needing to work out
glad nest
Layered runs especially
any% is much more manageable at least, so the burn out isn't as bad
But I do remember doing some of the layered runs and simply saying fuck it as a group cause it got annoying to reset cause one or two things would cause minutes of time addition
ruby hill
RNG can be a pain in any game, I think it usually tends to be the main reason some runners end up cheating because they get sick of the randomness and just want a perfect run. But most find ways passed it and achieve a great record out of it
thick ruin
rng is a pain but it keeps the runs intersting
you never know which could be the run, and you can't settle into the same routines
but occasionally you get railed for days straight and it just kinda sucks lol
ruby hill
I think the main strive is that a run that has good execution and good rng is tough to beat unless there's new tech found from TAS's or glitch hunting
glad nest
TAS's are just too unlikely for a game like this at present
Enemies don't move predictably enough, scans are wonky shit, too many things a program would need to account for actively
ionic halo
Well
ruby hill
Yeah I know, I was just ranting about running in general not just gtfo lol
glad nest
Hack locks would be pretty easy to TAS imo
ionic halo
Yes, but with some random ones it's pretty much toast
glad nest
However I am not that much into code, so I could be wrong
The hack locks are consistent as to how they function though
I don't see any randomness with them
It starts in the same spot every time and has the same speeds for each time you reach the next step in the hack
ruby hill
There's random patterns, but it's always the same puzzle
Or, positions I should say, not patterns
glad nest
I mean that's the case with lots of puzzle things
But who knows, maybe someone more coding intelligent could shed more light
ionic halo
I mean, TAS is a coding experiment, in the sense that you need to buffer input and do it Frame by Frame
and it's hard technically to do it on PC
It's to the point Celeste, which also has TAS, has got it's own developed platform, to make TAS possible
ruby hill
Yeah I assume doing that stuff is tougher for a multiplayer game like GTFO since you can't just make save states, manipulate in-game values yourself or anything like that
ionic halo
So even before the whole what mechanics will block us, is how would it even be possible
thick ruin
there is a seeding tool out there, so combine that with an aimbot script and you could theoretically make a tas run work
it would be a massive pain, but it may be possible to have a full tas run in the future if someone puts in a ton of work
ionic halo
Buffering inputs too
ruby hill
It would just take a lot of time to find a good seed since I highly doubt searching for one manually would get you anywhere
ionic halo
This too
This is essentially why it's on the backburner
Technical issues + the rest
ruby hill
Someone would probably have to spend a lot of time programming an AI to search for key values within every seed, and even if this is done it will take a long time to let the AI search since most likely there will be countless seeds for it to examine
ruby hill
In the meantime I'm gonna try to keep improving. In multiplayer runs I can do really well but in solo I need to get better at dodging. Sometimes I come out almost unscathed and other times I sponge every attack
muted marsh
Hey, please don't try to use @ everyone ping. π
thorny kite
oh sry didnt new that
snow sundial
jesus christ
uncut python
wut
thorny kite
wait why ?
calm axle
naive hemlock
tldr: didnt read
thorny kite
what is this
calm axle
several people are typing ...
lean tusk
Ross couldnβt read it in one go he deleted it
neon agate
I got about 70% through sadge
lilac sand
who deleted, i was reading
muted marsh
Move on from this, please.
next trout
and a waste of everyone's time, and is only furthering drama
Be cool, be nice, have fun. this is a game
thorny kite
ridicilous i want to give an statement, what is this
next trout
not a place to fill with drama
soft sierra
Listen to d0c
shy sleet
DM your statement I am interested in it pitski
thorny kite
there's no point in continuing this
of course but can you explain that to the little 19 years olds?
thorny kite
can i at least send the screenshots of our converstation
next trout
no
muted marsh
Pipski, stop.
calm axle
based
shy sleet
smile
next trout
because you asked a question completely out of context in order to get a response that fit your motive
muted marsh
As D0c mentioned, this is fueling a situation that was dealt with, and turning into senseless drama.
shy sleet
doublespeak go brrrrr
muted marsh
It's time to move on from it.
next trout
The fact that I'm even here is just stupidly pointless
de-escalating a silly internet drama
thorny kite
wow incredible freedom of speech, but whatever lol fireblade come online call him guys ich zeig dir die bilder verdammte scheiΓe
shy sleet
@thorny kite please DM your thing
thorny kite
The fact that I'm even here is just stupidly pointless
im totally agreeing with that but they dont understand
next trout
then drop it and move on
we're done with this conversation
anyone else who brings this up is going to get harsh punishment from the mods because they are tired of dealing with this highschool drama you guys are creating
neon agate
I just want to see new speedruns
calm axle
next trout
who's going to get the first day 1 speedrun of R5D1?
neon agate
Rascal obv
lean tusk
Kenny 
neon agate
Quick, tell Kenny a later release date
next trout
lol
lean tusk
Tell Kenny itβs coming out in a month 
quaint pebble
who's going to get the first day 1 speedrun of R5D1?
sad noises
neon agate
Inb4 new rundown is 90% c or d tier and that's all you can speedrun
neon agate
Who knows. It might actually be fun :^=
median quarry
It's not about speedrunning first, let's enjoy R5 levels first then the blood can be drawn haha
lean snow
π
shy sleet
nah im gonna get the top speedrun times r5
neon agate
Kerse is just saying this so he can nab the first speedrun records
thick ruin
its going to be nice to actually be here for a rundown release
next trout
let's see who gets the best time on first run, completely blind. one run only.
muted marsh
It's not about speedrunning first, let's enjoy R5 levels first then the blood ca...
but if you do it quick you suffer less
neon agate
This is gonna be my first new rundown as well mit
soft sierra
π r5d1 confirmed
thick ruin
r3-r4ext i was away on vacation for at least a week during rundown drop
everything was solved by the time i got back lol
calm axle
wheres the slowrun channel
median quarry
Kerse is just saying this so he can nab the first speedrun records
nah i like to make it a level playing field, it should be fair for everyone haha
shy sleet
let's see who gets the best time on first run, completely blind. one run only.
BH have an unfair advantage
quaint pebble
let's see who gets the best time on first run, completely blind. one run only.
1 or 2 hours most likely (unless you made the play time for PE runs dummy long)
shy vault
let's see who gets the best time on first run, completely blind. one run only.
prepare for sub 7 A1 first runs, then the fast bois get 4:22 in 1 day
next trout
bh are actually under restrictions for 10 days post release
shy sleet
yeah but they have an unfair advantage on the first run thing
calm axle
suffer
shy vault
remember the 4:22, it will come true
neon agate
4:21 when
shy vault
3:58 will be achieved in 1 week after drop
neon agate
Sub minute A1?
shy vault
trust me, tried going for A1 wr with kerse XD
calm axle
we know 
median quarry
trust me, tried going for A1 wr with kerse XD
BRUH!
thick ruin
damn kerse getting slammed
shy vault
median quarry
we tried and got close
quaint pebble
rekt
shy vault
it wasnt too bad
median quarry
it wasn't even me who sucked
lean tusk
oh kerse
shy sleet
yall aint ready for the speedrunner team I am assembling
median quarry
BRUH this master dude is slamming me the hell
median quarry
imma be doing a lot of speedrunning for R5 so
thick ruin
make one
neon agate
I just want a regular team :(
shy sleet
ill be on you are team quadanglo
shy vault
my team has done like 3 speedruns, they stick more to ||REDACTED||
neon agate
Yay
shy vault
might make a server to rival kenny, wes, mages, and kolohe
shy sleet
their server sucks
shy vault
they have too many records
neon agate
Kenny's group against the world
shy sleet
they ban you without telling you why and ignore questions asking for ban reason
median quarry
i'm down to do some R5 runs but imma wait for the 10 days to be over
shy sleet
the reliables server is bad
lean tusk
Yeah dethrone Kennyβs team!!!
shy vault
rethrone michal
lean tusk
Pls no let me keep my a3 
shy vault
michal you have been recruited, do not resist
sullen silo
the speedrunning server, hand it over
median quarry
Pls no let me keep my a3 <a:PepeHands:682737796582342665>
that time is too good no one is beating it
sullen silo
thanks
shy vault
do it no balls
lean snow
Ludvig is actually michal, change my mind
thick ruin
Pls no let me keep my a3 <a:PepeHands:682737796582342665>
god i wish i could take it off you but scan rng is vv cool
lean snow
It's all just an alt
sullen silo
michal is america, ludvig is sweden
lean snow
That's what he wants you to think
shy vault
fake, michal doesnt eat more than 2 burgers a day
sullen silo
also michal is good at the game
shy vault
yes
lean tusk
fake, michal doesnt eat more than 2 burgers a day
Shit Iβve been found out he saw me eating polish sausages
sullen silo
damn i thought he was a ford
lean tusk
median quarry
right imma go stream you guys have fun, don't forget to bully soy for me
lean snow
Seriously though, I think Michal has a couple changes he's gonna make to the speedrunning discord for R5 π
lean tusk
π big changes coming hopefully people will enjoy
shy vault
Seriously though, I think Michal has a couple changes he's gonna make to the spe...
is updating times one of them
lean snow
Yes 
fresh light
is updating times one of them <:kekw:712626215462240276>
TRUE kekw
shy vault
simple, rilla is monke
lean tusk
is updating times one of them <:kekw:712626215462240276>
Actually yes
thick ruin
pog
next trout
let's not bring up other server drama here. take it to dm's
shy vault
i wonder if i could get a second speedrun server in hc just for matchmaking
sullen silo
you can try
median quarry
the forbidden words
quaint pebble
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
next trout
I wonder if I could get discord.gg/GTFO in HC
lean snow
Hold up
calm axle
shy vault
easy win
quaint pebble
I wonder if I could get discord.gg\/GTFO in HC
No.
shy vault
no chance doc, come on learn the rules, no main server on main server
shy sleet
I think ive met you before rey i think we played a B tier together
quaint pebble
i was never in speedrun community...
shy sleet
no not speedrun
but i remember you telling people kiting is dumb and it was unintentional and not how the game is meant to be played iirc so how would a speedrun be done the ideal way?\
or rather correct way
quaint pebble
me?
shy sleet
yes you
thick ruin
i mean noone kites in speeds anyways lol
quaint pebble
Mit do you remember because i don't (I SEE YOU TYPEING)
thick ruin
its just timeloss
quaint pebble
yes kiting is stupidly op
shy sleet
circle kiting on extract doesnt result in time loss
quaint pebble
but i never remember saying kiting is dumb and should be removed
I don't remember*
thick ruin
what levels do you even circle kite extract
quaint pebble
not never
calm axle
e1 
thick ruin
bonk the chargers
shy sleet
A3
shy vault
none i dont think
shy sleet
D2
quaint pebble
what levels do you even circle kite extract
D2/C2/A2/A3/B3/B2 PE
quaint pebble
(:
shy vault
if you have to circle kite 3 enemies you have bigger problems
quaint pebble
or you just havieng fun
thick ruin
D2/C2/A2/A3/B3/B2 PE
??
shy sleet
tbh biggest problem is that unless you use BC the only thing you can do with an entire magazine from a gun is kill 3 enemies
guns are bad
shy vault
D2 sector% i guess
shy sleet
circle kite melee is best efficiency for kill
thick ruin
buts its slow as hell
shy vault
if you are killing 3 enemies with 1 mag go download aimlabs
quaint pebble
all this levels can be circle kited ( sorry i thought you said what levels can you even circle kite on extract)
quaint pebble
i mean...
thick ruin
all this levels can be circle kited ( sorry i thought you said what levels can y...
we're talking speeds tho, not relevant in the context
shy vault
chargers do not appreciate the cornerless square kite
shy sleet
no circle kiting chargers is ineffective
you cant stay on extract 24/7 if you are kiting chargers
real giga chads just shooter cap look down
thick ruin
wheres wes
shy vault
arent you complaining about how kiting shouldnt be allowed then come back and say a larger bug is ok
glad nest
yeah but they have an unfair advantage on the first run thing
BH probably wouldn't even be considered for this unfortunately for them lol
strong kiln
well i think its more than fair lmao
weary oriole
well i think its more than fair lmao
Youβre fair
strong kiln
π³
weary oriole
lean tusk
All praise the King. π
strong kiln
The legendary a2 solo speedrun world record holder. Lord fireblade!!! πππ€΄
ionic halo
The lord himself πππ€΄ HAIL! 
wind silo
Iβm so late to this I feel bad
ruby hill
You're late? I only now just woke up after sleeping the entire day
ruby hill
What a sight to see
lilac sand
thorny kite
ok
Hahahahaha Kevin if you are that naive that I prepared myself 25 mines that you definitely need to go to the psychiatrist
I should have listened to people who said to you arrogant and you know that we talked about it already
cloud kite
yes it is me kevin
thorny kite
Why would I ask myself then about the tool refill before the upload and talked with 5 devs this doesnβt make sense
And kolohe says they are not responsible for bugs XDDD ok sorry Master next time we will ask you about the bugs wtf
severe willow
How about where you admit to me you changed the files :)
Just donβt pass off modded runs as vanilla and donβt post them here. Itβs really that simple
cloud kite
hm
sinful condor
@thorny kite y r u still here? go back to counting your 123s
wind silo
Papa you are back
cloud kite
also whos kevin
wind silo
I miss you so much
lilac sand
i don't think pitski really that bad, people using CE behind the screen that's more gross π
wind silo
Why would I ask myself then about the tool refill before the upload and talked w...
Papa why donβt you answer me? I am abandoned. Iβm lonely
wind silo
I donβt wanna get dusted. Vater protect me from getting banned from World record π’
severe willow
Yeah. Ik
cloud kite
sure
severe willow
:)
calm axle
THONKBAN
severe willow
cloud kite
sadge
severe willow
Ebic embed fail
calm axle
π³
cloud kite
π³
wind silo
Father Pit left me once again...
cloud kite
coming back after we sleep
median quarry
Finally, a discussion that's not a 12 page essay about how kiting is bad : ^ )
teal fulcrum
Hol up
calm axle
calm axle
weary oriole
Iβm Kevin but Iβm too arrogant to respond to his comment π
calm axle
kevin moment
wind silo
Kevin Feige
thorny kite
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, this is so gorgeous, my lovely friend kevin, the screenshot which you send is obviously ironically
are you nuts go and read again and even the sentences after that wtf is that please
calm axle
you cant get a 4 use tool in that zone
thorny kite
why cant i send here a picture
i love the fact that everyone bypass the conversations which i had with the devs, where is that one guy who said i would censor things
thorny kite
go ahead fireblade why dont you send also my chat with you when i told you that i was confused as same about the tool
upbeat tusk
i also have conversation with the devs
hmmmmmmmmm
but i deleted the coversation
but trust me
wind silo
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, this is so gorgeous, my lovely friend kevin, the ...
Father, I need your love
upbeat tusk
but why wouldn't you?
thorny kite
Father, I need your love
son i give you my love hold on a second sweetheart
wind silo
thank you β€οΈ
calm axle
you cant get a 4 use tool in that zone
haughty adder
I would prefer if this channels topic was a touch more positive
calm axle
haughty adder
to be a bit more clear, we'd prefer it if the discussions of the validity of pitskis speedrun discontinued, from both parties.
calm axle
median quarry
Isn't it about the alleged conversations with the devs?
haughty adder
I'm not going to ask y'all to stop again, this comes right from the top.
median quarry
Its an effective gif
haughty adder
People who continue to discuss that particular speedrun will be muted, you've been warned.
calm axle
quaint pebble
bruhhhhh
haughty adder
This will also apply to anyone adopting A2 themed names to stir people up, we're not going to put-up with highschool drama.
ruby hill
Is there anything specific I should try to practice to get more into speedrunning this game? Guides are nonexistent so if I'm able to learn how to be a proficient runner I could edit and publish a video to teach others how speedruns work in GTFO
glad nest
There really can't be guides for speedrunning, the levels change so often.
And it's super simplistic. You run fast, know the obj, don't give two shits about enemies unless it becomes mandatory to do so, and get out
wind silo
Thereβs nothing you can learn about speed running. It is something you will slowly gradually get better when you play long enough lol. Speed running is just learning all the game mechanics and remember all the key item locations and push everything to extreme.
glad nest
The speedruns themselves are the guides
wind silo
Yeah lol
glad nest
It tells you an idea of what you need to do for the level. A regular guide will cover whatever game information you need to know
Like terminal stuff and other shit
ruby hill
There really can't be guides for speedrunning, the levels change so often.
Well, not for specifically levels, I just mean basic things people can learn to adapt to any level or situation that wasn't planned
wind silo
Itβs not speedrun related but. For vet, we rarely spend 2 hours on a A Tier mission even we might be new to the level... because we know how to fast clear and know where to go (if you find the terminal)
glad nest
Well, not for specifically levels, I just mean basic things people can learn to ...
This comes from regular gameplay guides
wind silo
Itβs just something that you will gradually get faster :/
wind silo
Well, not for specifically levels, I just mean basic things people can learn to ...
You can always check out Captain Alphaβs tutorial lol
ruby hill
Maybe. Just that I'm not exactly knowledgeable enough to know how to clear rooms fast and without alerting more than we have to. I can do it at a moderate pace since I understand their awareness decently well, just not sure how to get by rooms quickly without detection
glad nest
A lot of runs don't even clear rooms
You just run to the next step in the run, which is normally alarms
wind silo
For speedrunning, you will probably wake up everything
glad nest
You just sprint to alarm, or security door, and kill shit after
With guns
Or hammer if you need to wait for the door or whatnot
But yea, gameplay is general across the entire game
There isn't any speedrun specific stuff
Except level specifics
which is why guides don't really exist pertaining specifically to speedrunning
ruby hill
So usually you'd deal with the normal enemies along with the enemies that spawn from the security doors? Or just run to the door, kill them, setup then do the scan?
glad nest
Yes
To both really
It just depends on enemy quantity
I would never kill then set up personally
cause it wastes time
wind silo
If you wanna practice speedrunning, B2PE is a good map to practice run and gun, run and hammer, how to find things quick and accurate and fast killing?
glad nest
But ye
wind silo
Basically any maps includes error alarm is a good map to practice all kind of skills
ruby hill
I'd need to find a group to help with practice since tbh solo has been a whole different level. Even having only 1 teammate changes the difficulty insanely, whether they're a good player or not since it's extra firepower and a tool
wind silo
If you just wanna solo, it is fine and you can go slow and chill. If you want to go for solo speedrunning, it is a totally different thing
ruby hill
I know solo is entirely possible, just tough since I'm still inconsistent with dodging
Maybe I'll try out B2 but preferably a group would be better
wind silo
Just do it with randoms.
ruby hill
Do you recommend just repeating it casually until I'm familiar with it, then try playing it fast in solo or with a group also doing the same?
thick ruin
i wouldn't recommend trying to practice speedrun strategies solo at first
many depend on having enough firepower to clear the large amounts of enemies you end up pulling
ruby hill
Yeah, just that I don't want to be the kind of guy practicing doing things quickly when everyone else just wants to play it normally, or end up being too slow with a group who knows everything already
thick ruin
i've been seeing a couple of lfgs for casual speedrunning teams in na recently
you could try putting one up and just practice with whoever joins
ruby hill
I'll see if that works then
I guess I have one small question, about b-hopping that is: what causes your character to hop straight up with no forward momentum? It seems to happen almost randomly while I'm trying it, but I assume it's because of the terrain
thick ruin
it's just a weird timing thing
if you jump at the wrong time, it just stalls
you'll eventually build a feel for when to jump to avoid it, though it can still get you sometimes
wind silo
If you do bhop within the alert range, you will aggro them immediately
You don't bhop right in front of the enemy unless you are 100% sure that you can kill it/ things that around him
thick ruin
he's talking about invis ceiling glitch
wind silo
ah
ruby hill
Alert range I assume you mean their 180 detection cone?
thick ruin
yeah b-hopping still creates jump sound whenever you hit the ground
wind silo
wtf is 180 detection cone lmao
thick ruin
not really a cone lol
ruby hill
Not cone lol
wind silo
It's 10m radius right? I forgot
thick ruin
but if you hop in the radius they alert very quickly, you kinda hop into the circle to kill them
wind silo
or 15m
thick ruin
idk the numbers tbh
ruby hill
But I heard they have 2 different forms of detection. There's a circle around them which is why they get alerted from others killed close to them regardless if they're glowing or not. And also their vision cone
ruby hill
I thought they did since I remember in one video someone demonstrated that they could kill one that was right in between of another, and the other sleeper didn't alert because he was standing in the other's "line of sight"
thick ruin
there is los
but its more just drawing a line from a sleeper to sleeper
doesn't matter whether they are facing each other or whatever
wind silo
There's lots of misconception out here and they just come up with their own theory
thick ruin
basically if you can't draw a line from a sleeper to another sleeper, it won't aggro on kill, because it shouldn't "see" the kill
orientation doesn't matter there
ruby hill
So I guess the video was half-right? They have a los but it doesn't matter which direction their head is facing
thick ruin
ye
ruby hill
Well that's good to know. At least it wasn't completely wrong
thick ruin
think of it as two circles; the instant aggro (~3m) and the long aggro (only active if glowing, a lot larger, maybe 10-15m)
if they aren't glowing or they don't have los they won't aggro unless they're pretty much holding hands
ruby hill
Can they detect you while they glow if it's beyond 15m or is that the cutoff for any form of detection?
wind silo
The long aggro can be tested if you just crouch and uncrouch and fall back to the point they don't get alert
thick ruin
Can they detect you while they glow if it's beyond 15m or is that the cutoff for...
cutoff for anything besides gunshots iirc
ruby hill
Gotcha. And by long aggro you mean it'll cause them to glow (if they aren't already) and start throbbing if they were listening prior?
wind silo
ye
thick ruin
tho if they're in any stage of listening during a kill they'll aggro
any other action tends to just cause them to pulse
wind silo
Short aggro range is more about experience. The more you play, the more you will understand if they get alert or not lol
ruby hill
Yeah I know that, usually in casual runs I'd try to make them glow by shining the flashlight just so I know they won't glow while I'm killing one
wind silo
But some of them are visually clear, like, when they are extremely close to each other
thick ruin
another good thing to know is that only one enemy will ever long aggro, and that's only if no enemy aggros in the small radius
you can abuse the small aggro to kill large rooms by picking apart the doubles
wind silo
Unless it has multiple enemies within the short aggro range.
ruby hill
Extremely close is when you'd normally have to go for a double kill before one screams, or maybe if you can stand in between them, hit one when the other isn't glowing, but I guess that also depends if they're farther than 3m apart or not
ruby hill
another good thing to know is that only one enemy will ever long aggro, and that...
Can you try to explain this a little further? Not exactly sure what you mean by how only one long aggros
thick ruin
lets say you flash the whole room and then immediately kill a guy
even if they all have los, only one of them will aggro
ruby hill
Okay. Is it consistent which one aggros, as in would it always be the one closest to the kill?
thick ruin
not really lol
its a little random most of the time
sometimes nobody even aggros for whatever reason
ruby hill
So I guess you'd have to be reactionary with it to hopefully kill the aggro'ed one in time. And if the others are bunched up or glowing it'll probably be inevitable that one screams and alerts the entire room
thick ruin
funny thing is that alerted enemies make no sound when they die
so if you can reach him quietly, you can recover
ruby hill
Yeah I know, I mean you'd still have to kill them fast enough
thick ruin
yeah the window is small, so ideally you avoid having long aggros in a normal run
in a speedrun normally your teammate will be able to cover you
ruby hill
I guess the fact that only one gets alerted at a time can be abused if everyone is fast enough, say you do a double kill, a farther one alerts but someone else kills him, and if there's others who are glowing during it the other people could take care of them
But yeah, it'll be tougher to pull off cause of the window
thick ruin
in a speedrun its more of a question of when the room alerts rather than if
so you and your team try to get as many as possible before the whole thing gets set off
ruby hill
Yeah that's understandable. Clearing out the room entirely stealthily sure, saves resources, but it's a speedrun not a normal run
How do speedruns handle other enemies such as Scouts or Large enemies? Do you try to prioritize them first, then run by or just deal with them once you're where you need to be?
thick ruin
really depends on the level
in a3 pe, we just set off the scouts in overload cause its effectively just an advance alarm wave lol
in most runs, you do want to bc/quickly hammer scouts to avoid wasting resources killing more enemies
giants you normally will take a second to bc down if they're in the way
ruby hill
Alright. Also, is there anything specific that sets off a scout or do only the tendrils (or shooting/hitting it but not killing it) fully alert it?
I know there's some small things that never alert it but will cause it to use it's tendrils, such as shining your light
thick ruin
only gunshots, killing a sleeper in the small aggro radius, a sleeper scream or touching the tentacles will alert scouts
most other things just cause it to release tentacles more frequently
ruby hill
So technically it's fine to just sprint up to one as long as you don't let it's tentacles touch you in time or let a sleeper wake up and shout?
thick ruin
yep
very common strategy is to bhop through tentacles to silently kill scouts
just make sure that you have enough time to actually get close and bonk it
ruby hill
I knew you could still kill a scout while it's using it's tentacles but I'm not sure how long it lasts until they're able to detect you. Some people say it's only until the tentacles are fully extended but I'm not sure
thick ruin
~1.2 seconds from when the tentacles go red
tentacles can touch you when extending iirc
not sure about retracting
ruby hill
I feel like there might be a small grace period while they're extending. Like if they just started extending they won't go red, but if they're nearing full or half length they can go red
ruby hill
I remember sometimes I could walk right through it and be fine, but I never tried risking being there long
I'm tempted to try A3 solo or something just to test it, unless if others have a scout room easier to get to
thick ruin
a3 is the fastest if you want to rush a single scout
ruby hill
Hopefully I get decent luck where I don't have to spend too much time clearing so others don't interfere with it
ruby hill
Okay, while the tentacles are extending, you have roughly 5-6 seconds before they will become red. Might have to do another test to be sure
I did another test and this is actually very interesting
So, if you stand completely still inside the tentacles after this 5 second grace period, the tentacles will not detect you until 10 seconds have passed
Also another thing, standing in tentacles as they retract will not alert them
So in theory, you have 10 seconds to kill a scout while it's extended. You have a 5 second grace period as it extends and if you stand still after those 5 seconds have passed, you have another 5 to kill it if you're not moving
Hopefully this info is helpful for later runs
thick ruin
that's interesting
probably useless in speeds, but would be fun to scare some pubs with it
ruby hill
Yeah that's true. It could be really funny to have people freak out when you're just chilling right in a scout's face
ruby hill
Been running more tests and it's been a bit different. Sometimes they'll detect you even after 5 seconds has passed and you aren't moving. You might have to already be very close to it and have the tendrils be touching you very early within the first grace period
thick ruin
looks like we'll have to test a bit more to ensure that we're just making people think we're alerting the scouts, not actually setting them off lol
ruby hill
It might've been a glitch last time since I'm getting the same results now. You can stay in the tendrils for 5 seconds and then after that they'll begin glowing red
Yeah, seems like it's strictly 5 seconds now, can't seem to recreate having it not detect until 10. I might try moving around during 5 and then stop to see if that works
Yeah, the 10 second thing must've been a random bug since I can't seem to get it to work again. At least the first 5 second rule is consistent
My best guess if it wasn't a bug is that when I tested the first time it's possible the tendrils went right between my legs and just somehow didn't set it off until exactly 10 seconds but I'm not sure
heavy summit
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12v41177n3 Was looking through this run, and noticed that that they never encountered any shadow scouts in 516. Is it possible to not get any there?
Ah nvm, they all spawned in the back
lilac sand
Ah nvm, they all spawned in the back
the biggest problem in this run is the purple guy never record a pov and he just internet attack those people who ask him to clarify.
ruby hill
Strange but if nothing else is suspicious about the run it should be fine. I can't help out as much since I don't have a lot of map knowledge yet. I still need to finish C, D and E tiers anyway before the rundown ends
lilac sand
Strange but if nothing else is suspicious about the run it should be fine. I can...
the man himself sus without a pov. if he's so clean, why he attack those questioning people. he can totally just record and upload his pov prove himself instead sms bombing and cyber manhunt.
ruby hill
Yeah I know, but if we don't have any concrete evidence of him using a hacked client (or something else) yet we can't do much. But, I wouldn't say leave him alone. We should at least get an answer as to why he didn't record his pov
If he's uncooperative in giving a real answer why, you could try not allowing him to submit any more runs unless if they have his pov
upbeat tusk
the guy down when getting code right?
lilac sand
the guy down when getting code right?
the guy using bio, purple
lilac sand
the guy down when getting code right?
they r 2 men getting code, mine and bio
upbeat tusk
what are sus about that guy?
lilac sand
If he's uncooperative in giving a real answer why, you could try not allowing hi...
he already uncooperative, his teammates on his side as well, using email and phone call threat people to shut up
ruby hill
Do we at least know why they're uncooperative?
lilac sand
what are sus about that guy?
he played unnatural in casual runs, people accused him for a long time and like i said what he did to those people, now he get a record without a pov. I know this man bro, and I won't buy his record without his pov for sure.
lilac sand
Do we at least know why they're uncooperative?
idk man, if he just cheating that will be easier, but threating people? that's something worse my dude
lilac sand
the guy down when getting code right?
he downed like couple times can't prove anything, even if he just using some kind of perspective thing he can kill shadows easily.
ruby hill
Well I just would disallow any later runs then if we can
thick ruin
^we can't ban people from speedrunning just because someone says they're suspicous
the team provided 3 povs, which is more than the usual run anyways
if you could clarify your accusations with proof, it would be a lot more serious
ruby hill
I wouldn't say outright ban, just same thing I suggested before where if they don't clear their suspicions during a later run they could be banned
upbeat tusk
we can't just unverified a run because of 1 individual that have bad behavior in the past
unless it's a banned player
ruby hill
Considering it isn't just one person in the group who's acting uncooperative, it's also unanimous without any clear reason as to why. It's very abnormal in speedrun communities that players who act uncooperative weren't hiding any sort of cheats
And at the very least, it's disrespectful and questionable to deny reassuring someone of their suspicions. That's like having the murder weapon right next to you and telling the cops to fuck off although you were innocent
thick ruin
frankly i don't know enough about the chinese gtfo community to really take a side here
and i don't really want to get more drama started
upbeat tusk
ruby hill
Me neither. And even if I did know a lot I wouldn't have a lot of power over it. I'm just stating what I think about it
upbeat tusk
tbh
you can't really know a player is cheating or not until you watch the video really closely
ruby hill
Yeah it's why I suggest not outright ban but at least being more strict since I feel like if it keeps going on the controversy will just keep building up
lilac sand
frankly i don't know enough about the chinese gtfo community to really take a si...
the thing is, everyone in chinese community afraid of him and his team. and he doesnt have a single pov, remember the first team get e1ex in 1h25min? the guy name Eliana just killed everything, no pov. what i mean is, when someone is sus, 3 povs really not enough.
lilac sand
you got 3 pov, why not 4?
yeah, and if he really so good, he can just prove it, why threat people?
lilac sand
the team provided 3 povs, which is more than the usual run anyways
if the Eliana team upload 3 povs except his own pov, is it persuasive enough to be the first e1ex speedrun.
thick ruin
i have no idea who eliana is
upbeat tusk
chinese cheater
she's the one killing the tank with hel revolver
and shooting it at the front
lilac sand
im telling all the truth because I struggle in the worst community, I have to change names in case his team watching this channal. im not asking u guys make a judge to punish them or something. at least know the truth about this tumor of the community.
cursive quail
she's the one killing the tank with hel revolver
then what's the fucking sense of the game???
wind silo
Then don't stay in that community lol
lilac sand
Then don't stay in that community lol
dude, if i can play in discord without laggy why am i stay in that community. China block and limit the internet speed, even i turn on VPN or something, still get a shitty ping. and when a guy sus try to speedrun, that's not just about our community.
ruby hill
This is just a random thing to throw out there but I was able to finally complete a solo run out of the blue. It was on A2 so it's nothing special, but I'm just surprised it happened. I was doing a recording test to make sure OBS isn't skipping frames and just like that, I did a solo run in 59 mins
It wasn't really a speedrun so yeah, it's kinda slow, but at least it was sub 1hr and now I know I'm capable of soloing levels
median quarry
Was this just high?
ruby hill
Yeah, so still not much. But I could probably try Extreme or Overload another time
ionic halo
We all start out somewhere