gtfo-speed-running

[hollow aurora]

Soy if its r5e1 comp i will send cold front to uk

[fast magnet]

true

[proven canyon]

R5E1 cs who can get the highest time surely

[sullen silo]

I’d if that’s meant to be a good thing or not

[glacial shore]

z got that already

[proven canyon]

Why did I interpret it as the Russian army?

[hollow aurora]

find out

[sullen silo]

It is

I am like 20k in debt

[proven canyon]

My friend wants to study over dere don’t think he could muster up the funds though

[hollow aurora]

Team surely i get my sub 20 tommorow, rory carry

[sullen silo]

Say less

[proven canyon]

So sad ngl

[pine shoal]

skill issue

[proven canyon]

Surely

[sullen silo]

Get banned kid

[proven canyon]

Lmao

[glacial shore]

yes pls

[sullen silo]

Anyway

[glacial shore]

i need him gone

[sullen silo]

R5e1

But uhhh

[fast magnet]

yes

[sullen silo]

No cell skip

Haha

[pine shoal]

shhh, you know you love me

[fast magnet]

whar

[hollow aurora]

...

[fast magnet]

Ban this guy

[sullen silo]

[fast magnet]

Soy ban Soy

now

[proven canyon]

Lowkey I’d be down need to get a proper clear

[sullen silo]

Ok

[fast magnet]

does not want CS

[hollow aurora]

Its not fun

[glacial shore]

r5e1 ain't even a lvl without cs

[sullen silo]

Lmao

Uhhhh

What can I do to the level to make it different from a normal comp

[hollow aurora]

Man how is rory talking mid cs

[proven canyon]

Gtfo discord when being marginally quicker isn’t fun towards them (it’s fun for me so suck it losers)

[hollow aurora]

Lock in ur selling

[sullen silo]

Skill

[proven canyon]

The like cursed route or smth

[fast magnet]

Logless CS

[sullen silo]

Oh

Good idea

[paper arch]

ban sawed off and scatter

do it

[fast magnet]

true

[spark socket]

ban scattergun

[bleak crane]

^

[glacial shore]

bpsr only

[proven canyon]

How verify?

[sullen silo]

R5e1 cs but only logs

Just send me a log file

[proven canyon]

Lmao

[bleak crane]

Compete for the best seed

[proven canyon]

Team how do I fake a log file?

[bleak crane]

Soy will rate your seed's quality

[sullen silo]

Honestly randomised load out could be fun

[hollow aurora]

Ts would genuinely be a breath of fresh air

[paper arch]

not the pinned message

[proven canyon]

Ayooo wdym by that

[fast magnet]

Facts

More rng in the run

[hollow aurora]

can i rate moths seed

[proven canyon]

Yes

[mellow pike]

i can make a case you were also not running for fun cptn crashout (i had fun)

[sullen silo]

Exactly

[hollow aurora]

I have played rundown roulette, its generally unfun

[sullen silo]

Also you have to play on the lowest resolution

[proven canyon]

Shun the non believer

[glacial shore]

crashing out was how I had fun

[sullen silo]

And turn on inverted mouse

[proven canyon]

I’ve turned all the settings down to the lowest before

[fast magnet]

Mele only CS

[proven canyon]

My game was deep fried after I turned them back on

[hollow aurora]

Lil bro hop on r5a3 short rifle heavy smg

[proven canyon]

Like 4 restarts had to happen

[sullen silo]

Is that even hard

[proven canyon]

Yummers gambling

[hollow aurora]

Yes?????

[proven canyon]

Nah ez

[sullen silo]

Oh

[fast magnet]

no do it

make it the comp

[sullen silo]

Ew no

Then I’d have to play gtfo

Gross

[fast magnet]

True

[mellow pike]

no

anyone who says yes is a pub and a logger and a cheater and a shrimp

[proven canyon]

^

[hollow aurora]

Fight a bbc irl and record it

[paper arch]

I love being a shrimp

[fast magnet]

You run shrimped

[sullen silo]

Ok what about r5e1 but I pick the load out

[junior tartan]

can i be a shrimp

[fast magnet]

shrimp pub

[pine shoal]

ayo

[proven canyon]

Can I fight your bbc?

[mellow pike]

i dont think you wanna see that

[hollow aurora]

I def do

[glass cradle]

this would unironically be a better comp than another regular speedrun

[hollow aurora]

Wdym 😭

[proven canyon]

Bro didn’t answer me 🥀

[sullen silo]

Yeah I think we all need a break from speeds after 2 back to back

[fast magnet]

agreed

[hollow aurora]

youd lose

[glass cradle]

now how shit do you want the loadout

[glacial shore]

honestly, in general, clearing a lvl speedily in a certain way instead of going for a super fast time would be a much better comp

[mellow pike]

i would actually enjoy that

[sullen silo]

No no

[glass cradle]

curious

[proven canyon]

It’s a win win for me trust

[sullen silo]

This time I’m not taking any input

[glass cradle]

yeah ik

[glacial shore]

bpsr PLS

[glass cradle]

how shit do you want it

[sullen silo]

I’m just gonna go with what my heart desires

[hollow aurora]

Brazil skip comp??

[paper arch]

catastrophic loadout incoming

[proven canyon]

Slug sniper

Surely

[sullen silo]

Fun shit, not boring shit

[junior tartan]

modded weapons

[sullen silo]

I think what I’ll do

[sullen silo]

Banned

[proven canyon]

Soy is on a roll today

[sullen silo]

Is pick 4 different things for each slot

[glacial shore]

fun as in ur album cover idea that was totally fun?

[hollow aurora]

Malefic presence trademarked loadout

[sullen silo]

And you have to split it up between your team

[proven canyon]

Banned?

[glass cradle]

restrict tool too trust

[mellow pike]

im currrently running cell skip with bpsr with spear

[sullen silo]

Uncalled for 😔

[fast magnet]

no foam or minesd

[proven canyon]

Frfr have to put him on it

[sullen silo]

Oh yeah I’m restricting everything

[hollow aurora]

Soy maybe duo or trio comp?

[proven canyon]

No bio imagine

[glass cradle]

ppl are gonna run regular r5e1 over cell skip cuz its gonna be too hard

[sullen silo]

Eventually

[mellow pike]

trio ass

[proven canyon]

I think he’d make it timed

[glacial shore]

stfu

[proven canyon]

Or pink be cs

[sullen silo]

Only tool you can run is mapper

[hollow aurora]

i barely notice the difference icl

[proven canyon]

😭🙏

Yummer

[glacial shore]

if you don't notice the difference, you haven't been running trios enough

[sullen silo]

Actually for the tool what about everyone has to run the same one

I don’t remember the level

[hollow aurora]

Correct, i have ran trios like thrice

[sullen silo]

Is that normal or weird

[proven canyon]

Same tool diff weapons

Good idea ngl

[mellow pike]

im on board for challenge runs like this for comps

but like i still want reg speeds

[sullen silo]

Yeah ik

[glacial shore]

same weapons would be a funni skill check amongst teammates lol

[proven canyon]

”Waiter waiter more speeds I want speeds on my speed” type shit

[sullen silo]

This is keeping in line with the usual speedrun - non speedrun rotation

[hollow aurora]

Im too much of a newgen, ive only been around for like 4 comps

[proven canyon]

Sawed off scatter would dominate ngl

[proven canyon]

I’ve been here since cs comp

Im more newgen

[glass cradle]

bro hasnt caught up with the times, speedrun is deaddddd

[proven canyon]

Wait no I’m not

[hollow aurora]

You were here before that

[glacial shore]

scatter is cheating why tf would anyone choose that

[proven canyon]

Wtf syntav i thought you were like

[sullen silo]

The whole game is dead wdym

[proven canyon]

2022

[glass cradle]

fuck youre right

[sullen silo]

Scatter only

[glass cradle]

shouldve listened to sam

[sullen silo]

Fr

[proven canyon]

Waaaaaa waiter he is ruining speed waaaaaa

[glacial shore]

no main

[sullen silo]

No main no melee

No tool

[hollow aurora]

No bro, i started seriously playing like 3 months ago

[glacial shore]

only scatter

[sullen silo]

Only scattergun

[glacial shore]

hell ye

[proven canyon]

Bro ain’t no way I progg this slow😭

[mellow pike]

we should all convert and play the mantle

[hollow aurora]

Man you just never play

[glass cradle]

there is a mod that lets you take a special in your main slot

2 scatters

[sullen silo]

We should switch to a Minecraft sever

[glacial shore]

or hear me out...

[proven canyon]

Digga I have 300+ hours

[glacial shore]

Bat only

[mellow pike]

roblox gtfo

[hollow aurora]

i have almost 1000

[sullen silo]

I wish there was in game dev menu so I could do shit like that

[proven canyon]

Bro😭🙏

[sullen silo]

All 4 slots scattergun

[proven canyon]

Good idea ngl

[fast magnet]

imagine

[sullen silo]

I won’t take this bat slander

[glass cradle]

one of them is infinite

the melee scatter

op

[glacial shore]

BROTHER I LOVE BAT WDYM

[sullen silo]

Golden gun game mode

[sullen silo]

Oh ok you’re forgiven

[hollow aurora]

Like seriously to get better you have to actually play

[sullen silo]

We actually used to have one

[proven canyon]

Yea but like

How tf you have 1K hours

[sullen silo]

Ages ago

[fast magnet]

make it come back

[sullen silo]

Maybe one day

I’m already running one Minecraft server

My bank account probably woudlnt like having 2

[proven canyon]

All of us join that mc server rn

[proven canyon]

One server = 20K in debt surely

[hollow aurora]

I have 200 hours from 2021, im still in school so i get lots of free time, and my job barely schedules me

[sullen silo]

Yes

[proven canyon]

Bro😭🙏

[sullen silo]

“Job”

Nice one buddy

[proven canyon]

Frfr

[mellow pike]

just host the server locally

[sullen silo]

We’re all unemployed here

[odd delta]

not everyone practices games like i do but like
self review of solo gameplay where everything that goes wrong is your fault
and then pro review of solo gameplay where everything that goes wrong is your fault
boom instant improvement

[sullen silo]

Someone would immediately steal my ip

[mellow pike]

port forward, make a domain

[fast magnet]

true

[sullen silo]

Too much effort

[proven canyon]

Can’t get someone to review every game I play frfr

[little bloom]

pub review

[sullen silo]

Honestly idk if I could handle running a server for gtfo

I struggle enough as is with a server that has like 200 members

[odd delta]

no but could have something reviewed every week or so

[sullen silo]

So much entitlement

[proven canyon]

True

[little bloom]

just kick everyone so there's only like the active 50 people left

[hollow aurora]

Yeah looking back on it zed you improve unrealistically quick, this guy must be hacking 😭

[proven canyon]

Idk I feel like I have to play base game more

[odd delta]

idk man

[proven canyon]

It’s the Swedish in him

[sullen silo]

We actually did a prune a bit ago

[little bloom]

the server does prunes??

[glacial shore]

it's the hani guides

[glass cradle]

you can improve pretty quick at this game

[hollow aurora]

Oh shit i forgot

[sullen silo]

Very rarely

[odd delta]

i threw 1800 hours of vanilla, of which probably 1600 where absolute tryharding, at the game over slightly more than a year

[little bloom]

watch out everyone... you might be next...

[odd delta]

idt it's a big surprise i improved quickly

[sullen silo]

I think you misunderstand what pruning means

[little bloom]

you're talking about the fruit obvs

[hollow aurora]

yeah idk maybe im improving at normal rate, i didnt really begin to play hard stuff until like early june

[little bloom]

just grind duo e-tiers

[mellow pike]

zed vod review strat

[little bloom]

instant pro status

[odd delta]

like to put things into perspective
my first "hard" accomplishment was r2d2 solo, at ~300 hours in game and 3 months into owning it
i struggled A LOT but it made my shooting and time management way better (was still ass) but like
it at least made it acceptable

[hollow aurora]

Yeah my r4e1 duo made me worse probably 😭

[odd delta]

idk ill vod review for people of they think im good enough to be worth being reviewed by
ask and i probably show up, it's not like i have too much to do with my time anyways

[little bloom]

vod review solo r1c1 clears

[odd delta]

ngl if the player isn't very good there is probably a decent amount of value from watching wave 678

[sullen silo]

Yeah obviously

[little bloom]

honestly idk what level to benchmark on

[hollow aurora]

Team ill grind r7d2 solo and then i instantly skill prog and become best player

[sullen silo]

Your award is

Freedom

I’ll ban you

[odd delta]

i do not think that's the play it practices like 1 skill which is
shooting and looting at same time
which is usable nowhere else in the game pretty much

like spamming a given gun without regard for max dps rather than resource managing is not anything you need to practice

[proven canyon]

Me when sawed off or smth idk

[hollow aurora]

Zed use your wisdom which level do i solo

i dont wanna play r3a3 anymore to hold piss easy reactor waves to die to alarm 20 mins in anymore

[odd delta]

unironically you're good enough that just going in order skipping 2d1 and 2e1 is pretty good

[odd delta]

ok here is a cheat code for sawed off

[glass cradle]

r7d2 is honestly not bad

[odd delta]

get an external crosshair

[glass cradle]

at least up to the boss doors

[proven canyon]

Lmao

[hollow aurora]

Yeah if i get shadows i want to KMs tho

[glass cradle]

shadows is easier

[hollow aurora]

my pc sucks so my graphics are low

[glass cradle]

play bio then

[hollow aurora]

No

I need mines

[proven canyon]

Get better pc then

[glass cradle]

mines do not do much

[hollow aurora]

Soon™

[hollow aurora]

hmm

[odd delta]

^^^

[glass cradle]

it is sniper sentry or bio

bio better for training

[hollow aurora]

I will try with bio

[proven canyon]

^^^^^^^^

[glass cradle]

sniper for clearing

[hollow aurora]

Burst cannon or scatter tho

[odd delta]

like you can just pull blood door run away and go in blood door to get wave + blood door on same side if needed

[glass cradle]

either

all the S tier specials work

[odd delta]

scatter if moms
bc if tank

[glass cradle]

imo hel rifle is the hardest one

[hollow aurora]

true, too many bigs

[odd delta]

hel rifle has the lowest raw dps

[hollow aurora]

Thx dad

[odd delta]

it just struggles since you don't get to spam it as hard as the other guns

[hollow aurora]

The charge up ducks me up

especially in cell skip

[odd delta]

for r4 skipping c tiers and d2 is good
r5 ill figure out when i get there

[paper arch]

chargeup into aimpunch true combo

[odd delta]

probs skip 4b3 as well

[hollow aurora]

D2 is super fun but with one tool i imagine its the longkiteathon

[odd delta]

d2 is super awful

you long kite

without meds

in full infect fog

without bio

clearing rooms

[hollow aurora]

stg 90% of my damage in cs is getting aimpunched while trying to shoot a crawler with hel rifle

[glass cradle]

sounds like you shouldnt be shooting a crawler with hel rifle

[mellow pike]

solution: dont

[odd delta]

big thing in d2 is that you're slow on alarms
because solo cluster alarms
and have to start kiting at like class 5, class 6 latest

kiting shadows or giants is up to you, the giant setup is a bit scuffed
either way it's awful

[hollow aurora]

It goes for any enemy, when im trying to shoot hybrids, get aimpunched by another hybrid. When i try to get lines, get aimpunched by a hybrid. When im trying to gets lines but scatter killed hybrids, get aimpunched by a shooter. When trying to shoot shooters, get aimpunched by a hybrid

[odd delta]

spam more sawed off, weave in hybrid staggers, strafe to dodge hybrids

[hollow aurora]

Damn the solution was sawed off spam

Classic gtfo

[odd delta]

listen

when in danger

press 2 on your keyboard

[hollow aurora]

Zed name a situation that sawed off can not save you from

[paper arch]

tanks runs you over

because teammate pulled aggro

[hollow aurora]

Dodge and stagger with sawed off

[odd delta]

audioculled crawler behind you

[hollow aurora]

Fuck

The solution is good positioning

[odd delta]

in all seriousity
if you're struggling with sawed off
get a crosshair overlay

[hollow aurora]

The 6th code incident

I will try this

[odd delta]

also get max fov and just get used to it

[hollow aurora]

Im on max fov i think

[proven canyon]

Team it’s already 20 c

I think I’m cooked ngl

[hollow aurora]

Literally

[proven canyon]

Fr

[odd delta]

nah but thinking about it in this weak moment of being really tired
id be down to do some actual gameplay reviews, just dm me and we can figure something out
(goes to anyone who is interested)

[fast magnet]

R1E1 duo rn

[valid ocean]

les do a1 for warm up

[glass cradle]

Assemble the pub review council

[rustic bridge]

https://youtu.be/miR64skv1rY?si=L5PzzI8RS8AU5TnI pls pub review

[mellow pike]

well ig he was in the scan

emphasis on the was

[rustic bridge]

I WAS in scan ✊

Can we bring this back please

[woeful lichen]

you are a bad bad man!

[rustic bridge]

Teehee

[urban nest]

how about you vod review me in tetris zed

[eternal dust]

🐟

[valid ocean]

After rewatching rent a girlfriend

i gave it 1/10 review

[eternal dust]

Dayum

[versed echo]

S1 was peak

S2 was agony

S3 was Mneh

At least it’s better than Date a Live 😭

That shit is just cycle after cycle the same shit

[fallen zealot]

rent a girlfriend is pretty mid ngl

[rustic bridge]

HOW DARE YOU

I only watched season 1

Was decent

I don’t wanna change my pfp tho

It’s been too long

[fast magnet]

Facts

[versed echo]

@pastel gull there’s no way you did not suffer watching date a live 😭

All 5 seasons where literally the same plot

[hollow aurora]

Season 3 was great until later half (I LOVE YAEMORI)

[little bloom]

anime is mid

[hollow aurora]

It's not thaaat bad

[hollow aurora]

Shut up you have brainrot

[little bloom]

takes one to know one

[hollow aurora]

You might be right 😔

[old trench]

[mint knot]

Ngl, Anime peaked at Ninja slayer

[proven canyon]

Anime peaked at ninjago

[candid jackal]

WRONG

it peaked with beyblade and bakugan

[fast magnet]

Any CS runners (counter strike) Shrimpless 🦐

[fast magnet]

Soy wanna Cs

[sullen silo]

idk

that would involve playing gtfo

[fast magnet]

True

[mint knot]

CS while running down mid

[fast magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-shrimp-check-posture-gif-5966522503887123243

[sullen silo]

huh

weird

i thought embed perms were on here

[fast magnet]

Fr

[sullen silo]

try again

[fast magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-shrimp-check-posture-gif-5966522503887123243

Lets gooooooo

[sullen silo]

nice

[proven canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/tbh-creature-autism-creature-yipee-yippee-confetti-gif-26570203

NO WAY

[sullen silo]

can you be my guinea pig and try it in #gtfo-chat and #gtfo-related-questions too

[fast magnet]

Ya sure

[proven canyon]

we do have it

[sullen silo]

litty

[fast magnet]

[proven canyon]

yummers

this is a historic day

for all of the non nitro users

[fast magnet]

Trueeee

[proven canyon]

Neuron activation

@sullen silo do we have a use for media now?

[sullen silo]

uh

[fast magnet]

To show off media

[proven canyon]

LF1 brazil skipper (those who know 💀 + mango mango mango) https://discord.gg/JCXNtGpU

[fast magnet]

Shrimpless?

[proven canyon]

sure

nvvm

mb team

[sullen silo]

fooled again

[fast magnet]

Wowwww

[proven canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sorry-im-sorry-stitch-apologetic-gif-4881102981652399014

[fast magnet]

Ban this guy

[sullen silo]

you gotta become a mod first if you wanna do the "get banned kid" routine

which for you would involve moving out of the us

small price to pay

[mint knot]

dude, i was about to complain about you, but the moment i was about to send the message he smited my internet connection

[sullen silo]

get fucked loser

[covert cypress]

i forgot about that honestly

[mint knot]

i will never talk bad about soy ever again

[sullen silo]

good man

youre finally learning

you get unbanned for that

[fast magnet]

Would be worth

[urban nest]

where did you get btw

[proven canyon]

wdym?

[urban nest]

like u said u almost got it

[proven canyon]

oh

on the run back to last scan one person died

and thats what ruined our run

[urban nest]

big

[mellow pike]

this mf killed media

[proven canyon]

i killed spoilers and media i think

[mellow pike]

I hate you

[proven canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-for-the-greater-good-broxah-counter-logic-gaming-its-for-the-good-its-for-the-better-gif-20698528

[sullen silo]

nah media was going already

i just forgor about it

[wind cliff]

Holy shit

Speedrunning survived media

[placid marten]

place bets on if related questions dies before lore

[wind cliff]

Hmmmmm

[proven canyon]

@fast magnet get the fuck in here

[wind cliff]

Am I allowed to impact the bet

[placid marten]

no

you can only impact wiki chat vs achievement discussions

[mellow pike]

Gaddam bro

anything but finishing the comp

[proven canyon]

frfr

anyways we need one

skip the braziller

[glacial shore]

@sullen silo

[sullen silo]

eh

ill get roudn to it

[proven canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gtfo-game-travis-no-one-wants-to-play-gif-26988513

[sullen silo]

your fault for playing a dead game

[proven canyon]

@sullen silo brazil skip with us

[sullen silo]

idk what that is

[proven canyon]

just join

[sullen silo]

and also i really should end the comp

[mellow pike]

unfort i am out today so no brazil skip for me

[proven canyon]

NOOOOOOO we need brazil skip

[sullen silo]

im sure youll manage to find someone

[proven canyon]

no one is joining

[mellow pike]

this is r7e1 we talking about right

[proven canyon]

we are cooked chat

[placid marten]

theres videos on it
just game out easy

[proven canyon]

frfr

[placid marten]

👀

[proven canyon]

we can guide

trust its easy

[sullen silo]

god i should really name this fuckin things

[proven canyon]

lmao

average

[sullen silo]

submissions are now closed

when am i going to go through the submissions?

jesus get off my fucking back ill get to it

[proven canyon]

@hollow aurora brazil skip? (those who know 💀 + mango mango mango)

[mellow pike]

just sayin me and several others are offering to do it for u if u really want to

[proven canyon]

we need one rn

[mellow pike]

im talking to soy

[proven canyon]

😔

[sullen silo]

lmao

[sullen silo]

eh its not actually enough work to justify having multiple people doing it

[hollow aurora]

im not those who know 💀

[proven canyon]

ive asked all (5) the poeple ik to brazil skip 😔

[proven canyon]

bro is skipping the brazil skipp

[hollow aurora]

mango mango mango mango 💀

[proven canyon]

• brazilian phonk

im so down bad for another person rn 😔

[hollow aurora]

i can do like one attempt

[proven canyon]

yummers

LF1 brazil skipper (those who know 💀 + mango mango mango) https://discord.gg/JCXNtGpU

[fast magnet]

Hmmm

You were mean to me last time so

[proven canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-gif-25580415

[fast magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-krillion-shrimple-gif-16498821398272028753

[rustic bridge]

I’m right here baby

Just gotta give me owner

[proven canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-one-in-a-krillion-gif-12148107203104299362

[rustic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[misty veldt]

moth doing brazil skip when he hasn't even played any R7 level

[proven canyon]

ive played R5B1 surely

also almost did brazil skip yesterday

we were super close

[rustic bridge]

You’re close?

https://tenor.com/view/chica-toy-chica-fnaf-foxy-freddy-gif-938004550236127790

[fast magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-26273822

[misty veldt]

sulfie...

[pastel gull]

Kurumi made it worth it.

[proven canyon]

@sullen silo could you kick the company rizz guy from our vc?

[viral monolith]

soy is in a val match rn

[proven canyon]

he can do it during buy phase

[viral monolith]

lmao

[proven canyon]

but nvm

we fixed it

[paper arch]

me when I hop channels

[proven canyon]

rule 7 frfr

[viral monolith]

do yall need a 4th

[proven canyon]

so down

https://discord.gg/Jf4EJ6K8

[viral monolith]

well good luck hope u get one

[fast magnet]

Time to snipe

[proven canyon]

bro 😭

[fast magnet]

LOL

[proven canyon]

i got baited

[fast magnet]

Tbh they so real for that

[viral monolith]

im a master at it

[proven canyon]

plz join frfr

[fast magnet]

I am a little busy rn :<

[viral monolith]

can i watch

[bronze bobcat]

lf1 brazil skipper

[sullen silo]

Quit

[fast magnet]

Fine

[sullen silo]

let this be a lesson as to why you shouldnt go to individual mods about stuff like that

[proven canyon]

mb team

[placid marten]

next one

[slim stratus]

who thinks I am an alt account

[fast magnet]

I do

[sullen silo]

alt acrount

[viral monolith]

sam alt

[slim stratus]

who is sam

[sullen silo]

you can tell me who you are shiodan

you dont have to hide behind masks here

[slim stratus]

you know people are going to believe this

[fast magnet]

Yes I do

And that is why I said it 🦐

[slim stratus]

I'm surrounded by smalls...

[viral monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585063132553281556/798962215276380240/walkingbigguy.gif

[fast magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[fallen zealot]

shiodan obviously an alt

[fast magnet]

Trueeeeee

[rustic bridge]

[fast magnet]

@slim stratus who are you really?

[slim stratus]

Woods

[sullen silo]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-shrimple-shrimple-gif-its-really-that-shrimple-not-so-shrimple-now-gif-26259869

[fast magnet]

Yes

Shrimp it up

[sullen silo]

shrimply the best

yknow if i had a dollar for every person i know that has a strange fixation on shrimp

[fast magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimple-as-that-shrimp-suicide-shrimp-shrimp-le-gif-3057113260894778748

[sullen silo]

id have 2 dollar

https://tenor.com/view/krill-goodbye-krill-goodbye-krill-world-suicide-lober-gif-26900795

[fast magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-shrimp-typing-shrimp-computer-computer-gif-3506085040301826713

[sullen silo]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-meme-random-captions-caption-gif-23557955

idk what these are buit theyre close enough to shramp

[hollow aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-yourself-gif-4614880990811011027

[sullen silo]

rude

[fast magnet]

Lol

No more gtfo speed running

It is gtfo shrimp running

[viral monolith]

gtfo shrimp%

[slim stratus]

Im shrim

[sullen silo]

Finally the game is good

[viral monolith]

can next comp be shrimp comp

[sullen silo]

What would that entail

[late raft]

shrimp gaming

[rustic bridge]

Prawns instead please

[fast magnet]

Facts

[sullen silo]

What about primp

[fast magnet]

hmmm

no

[slim stratus]

Get me shrimp scout

[fallen zealot]

can next comp be ban%

[fast magnet]

ye

[sour jungle]

I nominate lakana for WR

[little bloom]

literally 1984

[hollow aurora]

Sending prn%

[eternal dust]

🤔

[glass cradle]

I already got wr

L

another W ez

[covert cypress]

we stay on top

[fallen zealot]

fuck

[slim stratus]

I already won it

0.00s beat that

[viral monolith]

wait did you get banned from gtfo speedrunning server

[slim stratus]

Yes im clearly an alt account

[viral monolith]

oh yea forgota bout that

[slim stratus]

Im not

[fallen zealot]

ban wave

multiple people 💀

[viral monolith]

hopefully

need another imo

[slim stratus]

Why

[viral monolith]

ban everyone who dosent have a wr

[slim stratus]

The only people who got banned were people talking out against the super logger cheat tool

[candid jackal]

i wasn't banned for doing that, which raises some more stuff but that's already being discussed elsewhere

[slim stratus]

Yeah its still really interesting that after this the only people left in the speedrunning server is people okay with changing the rules to allow cheats

Like they would have no more resistance

[odd delta]

quite interesting

[sullen silo]

i appreciate that you guys have not immediately jumped to insulting eachother but id prefer if you didnt talk bout this here tbh

cuz i know that its gonna result in arguments and we dont want speedrunning channel to get shut again do we?

[odd delta]

see we would talk about it in speedrun server

but eva banned all that opposes him there

[urban nest]

pls kill it

it's dead

[covert cypress]

well media and spoiler chat are gone

what's one more grave

[urban nest]

correct

[sullen silo]

true

[sour jungle]

I would say it was a good run

[sullen silo]

talk shit in dms like an upstanding citizen

[sour jungle]

But ya know

[fast magnet]

trueee

[covert cypress]

also people are going to talk about it cause they're justifiably pretty outraged

[sullen silo]

if i had faith that you guys could discuss it wthout it ending in insults and shit id say its fine

but i know better

[viral monolith]

do we need a new speedrunning server

[covert cypress]

years of logs arguments cause we just want our opinion and view on speedrunning to be acknowledged, we're pretty much ignored for most of it and everything we say falls on deaf ears and we understandably get pretty jaded

and now we've all just been booted, most people for very little reason

[fast magnet]

I am about to drop so much drama

[covert cypress]

i don't have much to say beyond this, but it's just insane tbh

[fast magnet]

SHrimple

[sour jungle]

Not to mention ban reasons not justified or explained

[viral monolith]

what is your view on the logs?

[covert cypress]

I've said my piece already on the state of speedrunning and the authoritarian leaders have made their choice so it is what it is

ggs its been a good run

[urban nest]

the council

[odd delta]

mayhaps because all that happens is that our views are being ignored and we're getting banned

[slim stratus]

Speaking as a concerned player I think shutting the chat down isn't a good idea. The community is on the verge of a schism because of this new tool and disagreements on it and taking away speedrunning would be the nail on the coffin for many

[vernal glen]

[sullen silo]

if you guys truly believe that it was unjustified or anything like that, youre fre to make a case in mod mail considering the speedrunning discord is a highlighted community

[fast magnet]

true

[urban nest]

soy is it justified to get banned on one server for doing anything on the other one

[sullen silo]

wdym

[urban nest]

like

you did something on main server

[sullen silo]

like would we ban people here for something they did in another server?

[urban nest]

yes

[sullen silo]

depends

[slim stratus]

I was going to submit a mod mail but I'm waiting until I have the most information possible
I was banned for being an alt account which I'm not and I know nothing else beyond that fact

I don't know who banned me from the speedrunning discord or why

[sour jungle]

You got banned for being "suspicious". Hope that helps

[urban nest]

what does ur depends mean

[slim stratus]

Suspicious even though I literally have zero messages in the speedrunning discord

[covert cypress]

we were all given the same reason except you, yours just had suspected alt added to the start and you were only banned for 30 days or smth

[slim stratus]

I joined like a day ago

I'm pretty sure someone thinks I'm one of the other people who got permad

and none of those people strictly know why they were banned either

[sullen silo]

depends what is done

[vernal glen]

fr the ppl banned are such angles im sure they can not think of any reason why they would get removed

[urban nest]

pub spoken ^

my bad

[sullen silo]

theres some stuff we would ban you here for if we know you did it anywhere

but most stuff nah

not our business

[urban nest]

checks out

[vernal glen]

angles

nice

[slim stratus]

I have definitely thought of some reasons as to why I could have been banned

Im just hoping that I'm wrong

which is why I'm trying to gather information

Because if we were banned on the grounds of "not agreeing with the new cheat tool"

its over

[vernal glen]

i dont think so

[odd delta]

i mean we unambiguously were

so

[slim stratus]

I don't know what else it could possibly be

[odd delta]

wesley shut up your opinion is invalid go back to r3a2

[vernal glen]

?

beth said this too

[sour jungle]

Team be nice. You're gonna get my channel banned 😞😞😞

[vernal glen]

what did i miss that makes me so greatly linked to r3a2

[odd delta]

idk

reset it insolo speeds for 290101 hours

[vernal glen]

i didnt even do that on that level

maybe this is part of the reason why u guys get banned

[slim stratus]

Wesley you are not really respecting the situation

[vernal glen]

[odd delta]

my bad
i forgot it was r4e1 solo with shootercap

[slim stratus]

A handful of players were banned and the only reason we can think of is because we dont agree with the cheat tool, making this abuse of power

all you could say to that was "lol maybe they deserved it"

I'm not going to be mean about it but as zed says, shush

[vernal glen]

every single time theres a disagreement, the ppl that got banned are the people who immediately say that the other party does not listen to them

and throws around a bunch of assumptions instead of actually having a discussion

[slim stratus]

Assumptions is all we can make, there was no ban reason

[odd delta]

that's literally your side so not sure what you're on about

[sour jungle]

Being insufferable? Cause I feel like we just take everyone out at that point

[vernal glen]

theres been a lot of stupid shit said towards eva before the bans

maybe dont do that

[odd delta]

idk all of it was well earner

[hollow aurora]

Time to get this channel archived again ☺️

[sour jungle]

Hard agree

[viral monolith]

lets move this discussion to #short-clips and get that channel banned

[sour jungle]

I say we ban everyone who's ever said anything in it because it would be funny

[sour jungle]

W idea. Let them cook

[vernal glen]

pls the lore channel

[slim stratus]

gtfo lore is sacred

[hollow aurora]

The channel of despair and agony

[odd delta]

the tool has been justified as being good because it lowers reset times
first thing it has been used for is cryptomining r1a1 and other levels for hours on end overnight for a single run
this clearly improved the reset-to-run-time ratio

i rest my case

[slim stratus]

What if the channel wasnt banned and then you guys refrained from making inciting statements

[viral monolith]

on a level like r1a1 how long does it realistically take to get ideal rng?

dont you just need 1 key spawn and 1 hsu spawn

[urban nest]

ur hsu is like

one in a 150~ on average

[viral monolith]

and it resets twice(?) a second

[slim stratus]

The tool is third party software that gives you an undeniable gameplay advantage. It is cheating to use it

[placid marten]

the chance is somewhere around 1 in 20.000 at this point if you consider scans
around 1 in 2000 if you dont

[odd delta]

no because they reset for A key so it's 1 in a million or whatever

[candid jackal]

ideal rng encompasses so much (really just 4 sets of scans, key, hsu which needs to be close and not far)

[odd delta]

i don't run bad levels i wouldn't know

[viral monolith]

does the logger know scan positions?

[slim stratus]

This argument is pointless

r1a1 is a trivial level

[hollow aurora]

So we are continuing the inciting statements 🗣️

[candid jackal]

nah i don't think there's any way to (yet)

[vernal glen]

i think not willing to accept any of the easier levels that can be ran by anyone is part of the reason why u guys arent very good at making points

[odd delta]

wesley they can be ran by no one because the rng required is such that you never get a run

[vernal glen]

the difficulty specifically

[odd delta]

idk i think the 1/20000 r1a1 clear is harder than e2

[candid jackal]

if people want to deconstruct the game to spend a while shaving 2 seconds off r1a1 then sure, they're welcome to i guess

but it shouldn't come as a surprise when people would rather eat a sandwich than the deconstructed constituent parts

[slim stratus]

Zed is right
The god RNG of perfect seeds is such that they will never happen except by using this tool which is grounds enough to call it unfair

[vernal glen]

if you have the same resources as the other team then it can be ran by everyone just the same

[slim stratus]

I don't know how you guys are defending it

[vernal glen]

the way it actually works is that even without tools if the level is not that difficult it gets to a point where rng is the main deciding factor in your time

[slim stratus]

its third party software

its fundamentally different from reading logs

[vernal glen]

and so even without tools you will already have this issue

the tool simply makes it so that the best run that realistically ends up happening, is a better run

[odd delta]

you know
a level where time could be improved by skill
seems more fun for someone improving at game

[viral monolith]

and everyone has access to wemod but we dont allow it

there needs to be a line

[vernal glen]

yeh sure, but that does not encompass the entirety of gtfo speedrunning

[versed echo]

Discord's 3rd party software

[vernal glen]

yes

one simply distinction there is that you are modifying the game

[glacial shore]

theoretically you can get that rng but it would take a VERY long time, the tool simply makes it way easier/shorter to get it

[sour jungle]

Alright chat, putting my good bye here when this shit goes down

It's been real

[slim stratus]

Yes this is the point...

[vernal glen]

you are not playing a publicly released version of gtfo

you are playing your own gtfo

[candid jackal]

yes, that's the inevitable consequence of speedrunning, the bar keeps getting raised

however - tools that deconstruct the game to dredge up informed will always be controversial because it is almost certainly information that you otherwise couldn't obtain

[glacial shore]

but it's technically possible without the tool

[candid jackal]

it's not about the runs and the final time, imo

[vernal glen]

a tool that works seperately from the game does not do that

[hollow aurora]

It was a good run team 🫡

[slim stratus]

It doesnt matter. You are using third party software for a gameplay advantage. Using this tool does make you a cheater over people who don't or can't use the tool

[candid jackal]

but now that i've said my part i can go sleep, gotta be up early to get ready for work, again, and again, and again

[slim stratus]

I dont care if it's "theorhetically" possible

[versed echo]

There is a difference between, can't and won't and don't

[candid jackal]

i'm resetting for work but thankfully the rng is always the same

[versed echo]

If you don't, that's really on you tbh

[old trench]

Have fun

At this point realistically channel should get restricted. So far I’ve seen soo many times how multiple people from same group play victim to rally the mindless horde of angry mob to do their bidding whilst they themselves hide away by introducing vaguely angled points to the said herd that represent them in a better light than the situation actually is right now. (ex. highly specifically worded question for that type of discussion is this - #gtfo-speed-running message).

On none of the servers this situation was(or is being) handled at all properly. This server having a huge status QUO on the multiple instances of instigating people to attack other people.

My main point with which I have a problem is - none of the people here realistically want to solve the problem in a proper discussion. And no I’m not gonna accept the shit that went through here and got started by several people, both involved and uninvolved as a proper way to start this discussion. For a discussion to be truly had there needs to be appropriate channels for that, but as far as I am aware in recent memory none of the people who wanted to have a discussion - sought out those appropriate channels for discussion. They either started shit here, did that in public twitch chats and mockery with myriad of other little things that do not contribute in any way whatsoever to any proper discussion.

On other thing that doesn’t contribute to discussion. Attacking character of opposition of discussion, instead of attacking arguments of said opposition. At this point if you do that, you refute any validity and ability to participate in any further discussion.
Recent examples:
#gtfo-speed-running message
#703047246295597167 message
#703047246295597167 message
And recent pile of 100s of examples from Chills twitch chat which may go private after this message.

Respectfully STFU everybody and think about what you guys even talking about and for what reason.

Also Soy, please be proactive instead of it being in constant state of status quo and lock channel until further investigation.

[versed echo]

It's almost comparable to a speedrun mod

Now I won't side anything, but think about it

[urban nest]

anyway

tabbing out

[sullen silo]

jeez louise

god forbid a man trys to play gtfo

[candid jackal]

literally

[covert cypress]

well thats kinda on you

[sullen silo]

welp i guess speedrunning channel privelages have to be taken for now

cuz i cba to keep up with this while trying to play a game

you guys can have until the next competition to calm down

[fast magnet]

LF2 R5E1 CS (Shrimpless) https://discord.com/channels/408196129470152705/1395520343246110720

[sullen silo]

how did you do that

[sullen silo]

Just a small announcement due to current events. For all future speedrun comps will not allow the use of any third party tools which can do things another player could not do without also having a third party software, until an ongoing decision is made. This does not apply to the R6D1 runs submitted last comp.

[abstract chasm]

?

What do we do here?

[next trout]

This channel is created to talk about Speed Running expeditions in GTFO. A significant number of you have expressed the interest in a channel dedicated to talking about tactics, tips, tricks, loadouts, etc for how to make the most of speed running.

Feel free to share all that, share what your top speeds are, etc. Have fun, and good luck!

[upbeat tusk]

ayyyyyyyyyyyy

Speedrun

[slim ginkgo]

So my fasted speed run on a1 was 5:36 and idk how to increase without rng..

Always get it when key is in area f/h or g

Horrible

[upbeat tusk]

try get it in C

and HSU in C?

it's E

[alpine path]

omg yes it's begun

[upbeat tusk]

i'm gonna speedrun A1 solo

[alpine path]

I'll try that one myself

[mild brook]

@sinful lake @median quarry @mild brook @short silo We did a 19min B2 any%

[ashen epoch]

Oooo
@golden yew @median quarry @cold saffron

Time to spy

[golden yew]

nice

[ashen epoch]

People are trying b2. We must beat it now haha

[median quarry]

Ok

[median quarry]

Give me, Kenny and Demi an @ when / if you're good to go @ashen epoch

[ashen epoch]

I’ll be home in about 40ish minutes

[median quarry]

So, essentially ladies and gents, git gud.

Speed run or ban.

D:

[ashen epoch]

we did b2 in 12.50 so, get good

a1 we are repeating to get under our 4.48

and d1 is 12 something

[median quarry]

12:28

[ashen epoch]

and it was done without 4 turrets

[median quarry]

So
A1: 4:48
B2: 12:50
D1: 12:28

[cold saffron]

that was a lit run tho

and our tactic worked

[ashen epoch]

lol zerg rush

[median quarry]

[cold saffron]

[median quarry]

A1 3:55

[gilded basin]

Video?

[median quarry]

soon™️

[ashen epoch]

i mean, you can watch us on stream running now

[cold saffron]

@graceful bison we did under 4min now

[upbeat tusk]

holy

[graceful bison]

@cold saffron I knew it.

[median quarry]

[graceful bison]

You have saved me the hassle

I can now sleep with peace.

[cold saffron]

[graceful bison]

Deep exhalation

That puts a smile on my face.

[cold saffron]

and i found out i can train the "sleepers" easily

on A1

[graceful bison]

Specifically or can it be done elsewhere

[cold saffron]

as long as there is an open area and some obstacles for me to run around

i knw how to kite them super easily and kill them with few clip to clear the wave

[graceful bison]

Hold up

Did we just invent a speed run channel?

Yush!

[median quarry]

yes

[cold saffron]

[ashen epoch]

yeh we did

[median quarry]

we are gamers 😎

[ashen epoch]

should just be called with elite

tbh

[graceful bison]

[cold saffron]

[graceful bison]

I hereby declare this our territory

It is now officiall

[median quarry]

we are the best of gamers 😎

[graceful bison]

This means

I can do my math here

And make you do the dirty work

[median quarry]

Wow ok

[graceful bison]

I know I know

[cold saffron]

[graceful bison]

I’m such a genius

[median quarry]

Going for C1 now :^)

[graceful bison]

Your average time including the waves should be about 30 mins

[median quarry]

We nearly got a 25m run.

Kenny did the math this morning.

All the waves take ~21:40

[graceful bison]

Excellent

All that remains is for the 3 players to sit at the evac scan just when 8th wave is over

And that will get you the best

[golden yew]

which is about 35 seconds

[graceful bison]

So long as the terminal member types fast

[median quarry]

that's me

[graceful bison]

You should spend max in total 1 min as waste?

Which can be flexed when the lowest is achieved casually

[upbeat tusk]

how long does the evac complete with 3 people?

[ashen epoch]

which evac?

[upbeat tusk]

every level have different evac time?

[median quarry]

I don't think so?

Kenny says it's about 35 seconds w/ 3 people

[upbeat tusk]

yea

and about 20 second for 4

60 seconds for 1

[ashen epoch]

and big boys spawn on the extraction point so yaaaaaaaaa

[golden yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA_8OtCxIIc

[ashen epoch]

rewatching the b1 run that we got 12 mins in. i legit didnt have a sentry as it was "deployed" from the very start

no sentry, 2% AND got locked out

[median quarry]

epico

[upbeat tusk]

they should decide whether the Giant can melee or do range

i just got tongue and melee at the same time

solid A1 run by the way

[graceful bison]

Indeed

My slaves are working hard

They are doing a magnificent job

[upbeat tusk]

did you know

Giant striker can do both "skill" as the same time?

[graceful bison]

Yup

[upbeat tusk]

GOD DAMN 100% HEALTH FLY SO FAST

[graceful bison]

I hate it

[upbeat tusk]

where did my health go?

i'm at the end of A1 too

MAN

speedrun

should have shoot the big guy

[ashen epoch]

Lol, your slaves?

[upbeat tusk]

ye

@graceful bison C1 are

interesting

[plush kindle]

cries in non speedrun

[upbeat tusk]

speedrun are kinda fun

watching yourself failing for stupid reason

[cold saffron]

C1 we probably can do it in 25min mayb or 26?

idk what was our time just now when we tried

[golden yew]

under 25 is the goal

under 26 is easy

[graceful bison]

If it’s 21:40 for the waves you’ll spend about 40 seconds average on the evac and should spend as little as 2 mins.

You can try a normal run where you test the maps length using the timer

See how long it takes from there on

Then you can add personal skills

Which you should already be doing without me pointing it out like an evil anime villain. Destined to give you a long speech before he kills you.

[plush kindle]

Pls do

I need ma speech

[chrome beacon]

@ashen epoch watched u guys speedrun of d1 yesterday and it made me feel like an idiot congrats to that 😄

[sudden sleet]

Speedrunning in GTFO is rather pointless lol. It has very little to do with skill. It's all about how lucky you are with the mob/item spawns and RNG.

[fair seal]

^

[ornate echo]

@sudden sleet it’s like with Cuphead speedruns since you see speedrunners restarting bosses all the time until they get the variation they want.

[sudden sleet]

At that point they're just cheezing it LOL

I don't really watch speedruns at all. The only one I watched is the dark souls 3 speedrun in which the guy was abusing soo many mechanics and exploits.

Although I find it rather funny how the Devs decided to add a speedrunning channel, especially given the number of arguments and complaints back when the game was just released. Usually the complaints were met by 'The Devs have a very specific came in mind that's made for a specific playerbase', with a major emphasis on hardcore co-op. And yet, they proceed to add a speedrun channel lol. Is that the kind of game they were referring to?

[ornate echo]

The only speedruns I like are glitchless ones.

[sudden sleet]

Hhaha

I imagine them being kinda rare.

[ornate echo]

“Wow, you completed Outlast in 5 minutes?”

[dawn aspen]

Speedrunners who break the game's engine in two are boring.

[ornate echo]

Oh, all you did was clip from the window all the way down into the lab.

That’s all you do for an Outlast speedrun.

You get up on that scaffolding, and then find a hidden collision plane to walk on and then jump through to clip all the way down into the research lab.

[sudden sleet]

That's it? xD

[ornate echo]

Yes.

House Of Caravan can be completed in 11 seconds.

[sudden sleet]

LOOOL

[ornate echo]

Grabbing a chair allows you to clip out of the wall and into the next floor to get the key,

Then do it again and clip down to the final floor and unlock the door, win.

[ashen epoch]

Our speed runs are glitches as I loathe exploits, glitches, mods and cheaters.

The run for c1 cannot be done faster than 24minutes as you still have the sec doors on the way up and such

And who cares if people are arguing? We still have idiots that will argue that a1 can’t be do in less than 40 minutes or that it takes “professionals” days to complete a mission on a run down. Hell, even in the speed runs we have uploaded we get retarded connects like “it’s been speed up” because they dont know how to put the fov up -_-

[median quarry]

🤔

I like seeing exploits in some games but it would ruin GTFO.

Speedrunning in GTFO is rather pointless lol. It has very little to do with skill. It's all about how lucky you are with the mob/item spawns and RNG.

Also saying GTFO running is skilless is a bit wrong 🤔 🤔 🤔

[ornate echo]

GTFO speedrunning matters a lot on where the items spawn.

[median quarry]

Depends on the Expedition. D1 is more skill than luck.

[ornate echo]

For example in A1, a key spawning in 50C or even 50E makes a whole lot of time difference than if it spawned in 50H.

[sudden sleet]

Even in D1. The RNG is still what determinates your success.

[median quarry]

Not really? We got very consistent without relying on RNG.

Like yeah most of them are highly reliant on RNG but saying there's no skill involved is still just wrong.

[sudden sleet]

There's some skill involved.

[ornate echo]

The RNG determines how much skill is needed.

Enemies being well spaced out enough to take out 1 by 1, and almost zero giants as well? Not much skill needed there.

Enemies being bunched up and more giants requiring group takedowns? More skill needed.

[sudden sleet]

Add shit luck with item drops on top of that.

Which I've experienced 80% of the time and I'm really getting fed up with it.

Glowsticks, fog repelers and flashlights in every god damn locker we open.

Or when we finally find an ammo/tool refill and it's only 1 use -.-

I'd rather have a huge middle finger pop across the screen than see that again😂

[ashen epoch]

Glow sticks are the most hated item lol
There’s skill based on rng with mob spawns. A1 and b2 are the showers of that

Also sounds like you’re a tad salty that you don’t have patience

[sudden sleet]

Oh I've got plenty of patience.

It just gets old when you keep finding useless items in almost every box you open.

[ashen epoch]

Sure you do.

[cold saffron]

well we done D1 in 2 tries go run D1 and beat our time

[ashen epoch]

It’s comments like that, or it’s too hard that set aside the players from the casuals. Yeh it’s old, so are scouts shoes explodes and yet still screams. it’s what makes it fun when you actually complete it.

[sudden sleet]

Those are called glitches which require fixing.

"It’s comments like that, or it’s too hard that set aside the players from the casuals." This makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.

Going by your logic, only casuals complain about obvious glitches?