#gtfo-speed-running
1 messages · Page 33 of 1
i dont think either come close to r5e1 cs but still fun
there are also a surprising amount of people still running modded while speeding lmao
based
what're they gonna do? refuse to verify the run?
I have a lot of fond memories of r6c1 so it kinda is just always fun for me
lol so when i went to pick up my new keyboard i ordered they didnt actually have it in stock so they gave me a different one for no extra cost
so i got a steelseries apex pro gen3 full for 100 off
oooh solid
yeah it feels so nice compared to the 40$ crappy one i had before
still getting used to a fast keyboard tho lol
its so responsive
Yeah didn't get my sub 18 verified cuz of this
I wouldve asked moth if they just wanted to do a quick run for sub 18 when they messaged me
but I had to go to the doctors office 
that is huge, its a great keyboard
Nah it's alg
I really like it so far
Maybe I'll run r6d1 with moth
that is a big rip
Rules đ
what makes the 400 buck keyboard so special to be worth 400? plenty of full size mechanicals out there and some pseudo mechanicals like the steelseries apex100 that are literally 30 bucks. granted I'm not happy with the travel on itor the lack of key illumination (there's lights in the keyboard but they don't illuminate the actual letters)... but for 30 bucks it's better than a lot of the garbage I had to use during college years and before
Mechanical is the bare minimum
if it's not mechanical it's getting donated to skuller to be smashed
Gulp
better sound, better feel, higher quality case, better software, longer lasting, more customization, there probably more i didnt get
in general, you shouldnt spend 400 dollars on a keyboard if you dont care about the sound tho
also i would add
isn't apex 100 an old ass rubber dome keyboard
not psuedo mechanical, just slightly fancier membrane
think that's what i used for some years
its also worth mentioning that the actual case was only about 200 dollars
yikes, membrane
Yeah apex 100 is pretty damn old at this point
was a nice keyboard but I def prefer what I use now
i have my first PT session on monday cant wait till i can walk again
Teamets I was gonna eeep and defo not switch to singleplayer to cool off itâs fine
Itâs not a maybe
ur so forceful~
Arenât you a bottom or smth?
uhhh idk
Yes, yes
Syntav is a bottom, submissive

Frfr
@hollow aurora 
what
no way
the person that uses :3 is a bottom????
the person that- listens to 2010 rock is a bottom????????
only with you â€ïž
aren't you a minor
whats a minor
common mistake
eew
:[
not too fond of gay people
minority teir list
all f tier, be normal
latinoamericans >>>>>
ur a minority smh
nah I'm a majority
im half and half
like the drink?
i don't own half and half
your a minority then
imagine being a majority
beeing a miniroty for playing gtfo is like saying ur mexican cuz ur greatgranfatheer lived in guadalajara for 5 months when hee was 23
Yo guys current thoughts on slug shotgun?
ur gettin answered in oveer the otheer channel
Ik
:3
mmmmm
Microwave
ok
:3
what the fuck is happening in here
:3
@sullen silo can you Put the speedrunning Channel to the bottom of the list to fulfill their wishes?
Abrieveated "GOONER" is crazy
who the hell are you
frfr
FusterCluck duh
What
where comp
10-12 years is the life expectancy of goats so checks out
wait does this mean goat is younger than frosty
damn
I will come
Why do we come?
"In like half a day" soy 6:20 (5:20 for u) in my dms
Depends on the person
How whould you rate Urself?
Friction between me and the world most likely
Something something your mum something something
your mom your mom something your mom your mom
Mum*
.t no
No
My mom is a good friction adder dust often makes surfaces more friction
Y
Drop addy and I can you my proption of the ashes
bet
@sullen silo have you thought about adding a role one Tier above pink for getting it in both C1 and D1? Something Like "No life" in neon green
would look like calles role
Too many roles
No real reason for it
so by this logic frosty does NOT get his speedrun overlord role
or his scouts are friends role
times have changed old man
like you would know newbie
well if we think about it it was a while ago it happened
so like
times have in fact changed
i have absolutely slept
@sullen silo where tf is comp frfr
Thatâs different
Pub.
My pings come at an hourly rate Frosty, I hope you're ready to pay
Donât worry youâre already blocked
I was thinking of making a role for getting a certain amount under wr but decided against it just cuz it might cause issues
You guys really got nothing else going on huh?
no its cuz i have flipped my eeping schedule so i wanna flip it back
Dawg have you met speedrunners
frfr
Rename yourself to fish with how much you are Flip flopping around
fish
lf1 speed r6d1
LF Frosty
frosty is in eu

I could take a train ride and be at his in like 10 hours crazy
L
I apologise
L
If anybody gets the funny kraken death bug
(I doubt it but who knows)
pls submit anyway
it will be glitched god run
Kraken kill% WR?
NOOOOOOOO
10:30 interestingt
I will eat your door privileges in the runs
Tempting
come join, we dont bite đ
cant right now , but can do runs for sure
I would join but I'm running other games. Maybe if you guys are still on after my runs I'll join y'all
what are you mainly runnin rn?
Ready or Not
I'm still king on an inferior system
God tier game ngl
Yes, probably the most cohesive tac game out there, and I am the #1 holder of records on the board
That game is a game that I wouldnât like speeding
That game is very much a slow take it easy type game
I like playing ready or not and shooting everything that moves
Average Russian swat team
Baba Yaga moment
Insurgency (the original one and sandstorm) is also one of the tac shooter greats
soy why do you say you're handling verification "differently" for every comp now when it's been the same process for all but the first one
control c control v
yep
literally the r1c1 copypaste recommendin sniper
and me tellin pablo to change it everytimee
w game
@placid marten maybe next time you should actually test/clear the lvl to make a definite time instead of just estimating the r6d1 time
just cycle skip
i wish
4 sniper
im not rlly sure why we picked r6d1 in the first place, wasnt there supposed to be talk about the next lvl after r6c1?
but then when i see the announcment for r6c1 apparently r6d1 was already decided for next comp
what I'm mad about is that current non glitched wr was done with non nerfed sniper, and the fact that NO ONE ran the lvl with current sniper and just "optimized estimated time" is slightly tilting
is almost like r6d1 is a terrible lvl to speedrun and almost no one runs it for a reason
it's fun with either a proper time or no nerfed sniper
agree to disagree then
fighting in infected fog and being forced into running 4 snipers is not my idea of fun
whoever chose r6d1... I have some questions
its unique which is more than a lot of runs can say
not a high bar considering most lvls are not particularly fun to run xd
isn't cycle skip next to impossible with current sniper
No
then show us a run pls
want me to grab it
they found it
It was in an r6% so it was one attempt where they played it semi safe
I don't care, just have at least one team run d1 dedicated before you even post a time
W crashout
Agreed W Crashout
Just get better
10:30 with current sniper is giga reachable. I genuinely think this is copium
I can agree with 10:40
But what tgb said as well
Also you can always just cycle skip
You just gotta count
With all due respect but if the rundown 6% gets 10:35 by playing it safe. Also having suboptimal baby movement
A team can save 5 seconds
Yes u are not supposed to first try it
Pretty sure the 10:30 was a âreally clean normal clearâ or âdecent cycle skipâ
Like I think cycle skip gets a bad name
It isnât that hard
we did not practice it yea
I think our understanding of cycle skip is prob bad then bc they were told its basically impossible
Yeah itâs not
You have leeway
with aussie host to 3 non aussies the timing is not that bad
Yeah
like discord latency was not even enough to bother it
Literally just have a shit host and itâs so free
You have leeway for 1 shot
So itâs not perfect
I forget if we also had host shooting or not
I think we did?
idk its been a while since then
im ngl I Forgot that was even in r6%
It was all shooting
Yeah
even so i doubt you even need cycle skip tbh
you dont
in order to kill a tumor u need every player to pull off a single reload
compared to no reload old sniper
and this is with 4 sniper?
yes
not even needing to worry about primary shooting tumor?
nope
1200hp per tumor
one sniper shot does 120
10 shots
aka 2 from each player + 2 more
so 2 people need to spot tumor insta
the other 2 can loose some time taking their first shot
can u theoretically mitigate the reload by adding a dmr or something in there
probably not
and it is not reliable
i'd much rather have 2 people not spot the tumor instantly
all i'm asking is a sub 10:30 clear by the people yapping in this chat before comp time is posted
our team doesn't play for quite a bit
so it's better if the shots aren't all at the same time? why?
@glass cradle assemble a team
fuck that lol
because realistically you dont have all 4 players spot the tumor instantly to instantly shoot
so this gives u a bit of leeway
ill join chill
i see
some people prolly dealing with fliers and such đ€·ââïž
a quick 30 min sesh
unironically tho r6% should be a reasonable showcase
anyway: the entire run diff between now and older runs is one current sniper reload and 1 sniper shot delay
cuz I dont think we did it remotely optimally
nope
funnily enough eva theorized another route for moving the mwp
during alarm
and it does apparently save something
anyway: time difference comes to 4.2secs per tumor
Flyers shouldn't be too much a problem
at 5 tumors you loose 21 seconds over the entire kraken kill compared to pre r8 sniper
which means
whats a cycle time again btw
u have ~34 seconds of leeway
theoretical best time for r6d1 is like 9:56 then
nah, theoretical is like a 9:40 from what i remember
I c
keep in mind the current world record aint even that good
Also you should be taking 4 snipers for either cycle skip or no cycle skip
Itâs just faster taking into account human reaction time
Like tgb said
yeah, u can in theory make 3 sniper work but you are gambling tumor rng then
4 people all instantly seeing tumor is considerably more fucked
The fuck star? Lol
its a non rng level, purely skill based
I guess your infection fog/sniper part makes sense (subjectively) tho
The sniper shot delay is actually mitigated tgb
Since before sniper had 2 shot delays (shot 1 to 2 and 2 to 3)
But now its only 1 (shot 1 to 2)
Since you reload
A rough cycle time (waiting for next tumor and then shooting it) is ~50 seconds to 55 seconds
jesus
thats longer than I wouldve guessed
no wonder a shit cycle skip is still 10:35
It is crazy right?
tf you mean non rng lvl? first of all, our tumor spawns were outrageous (every other run, at least one far left/right where we couldn't even shoot till waiting) and cycle skip is very inconsistent for us because of lag
and 10:30, while definetly hard. (Consider that its roughly 10-15 second behind wr pace with current snipers being applied) is a level with near 0 rng
The 10:30
does not
Require
Cycle skip
then fucking run it
Also lag makes it easier no? (As stated by chill aswell)
Or do you mean the reverse?
Let me just make frosty ditch his girlfriend he traveled across the globe for
we have a fucking player 2 continents away from his pc

discord delay when counting down
the timing for the tumor shot is the exact same as timing for double meleeing a scout
we also had host count down
You dont get a visual indicator of your teammate moving towards it tho
if u can pull that off. (and u can, I did on ping ranging from being in the same room with them to australian ping) u can then pull off a shot on kraken
Again
Cycle skip isnt even necessary :|
stfu
thinking of it like that actually makes it seem a lot less scary than some other people have put it
It just feels rough when you fail it (aka not get 4 tumor death) since you do then basically insta reset
can't be a "clean run" if our tumor spawns are crap, so cycle skip is required even more
tbf i feel like tumor spawns dont matter aside from first
first doesn't matter either
Did you know
first i feel it only matters when its facing away
That r6d1 kraken should be the only kraken with the high up tumor
i like how the devs openly admit to hating the kracken fight on e2 bc it breaks the game
by tumor spawns, I mean far left/right tumor with kraken facing said direction fully (which is what we've been getting very often)
curious
Kraken shouldnât do that unless you split up lmao
Then you guys arenât together
Frosty travels across the globe just to continue arguing in speedrunning
We are so back
frosty knows his priorities obviously
Frfr
in fact not only that it rose out of the fog facing far left lol
R6D1 kraken works differently frosty
Also you guys should be running 4 snipers
You already save time with that
Omfg my internet is gone
I have to
we have been for the past 5 hours
r6d1 kraken doesnt âtarget a playerâ to look at like say r8e2 does
yeah to the fridge I bet
YES
Iâve been telling my gf that đ
twink status is floating away
The only things twink about me are my face and ass
can confirm the ass
built like my dark souls character
Built like an ark character
I forgot how cursed they can look ngl
Star writing an essay
essay has been canceled
i got r5e1 cells to work
yep
Rolling for C cell in that would suck ass tho
Yeah
I mean running the level to roll for it
Surely not
ah ok
Whatâs the weighting
3 cells in c right
2 in C
2 A, 3B, 2C, 5D
in the logger program?
16.66% chance C cell
it is not yet added to the logger
but it is published
this is a DLL that specializes in reading the logs and forwarding that info to other programs u write
and I have integrated "Project Foresight" into it or whatever that was called. Essentially it works similar to Seed indexer and can grab more info
also yes at some point after the release of the medals mod probably ill integrate it directly into the logger
when medal mod coming out
very soon
we have a bit more work on the security for the mod and a bit more ui
@drifting citrus did maid do the website thing or is that for later
later
Fair
website is a little complicated with legal issues and security is even more of a problem
and maid is a little fucked on work rn
Yeah makes sense
First of all, that's just straight up wrong, there is still rng with resources and where tumors pop up. There is a diff between non-rng and some rng.
Secondly, I fail to see what's interesting about fighting in infectious fog with effectively only 1 weapon, then proceeding to just spam sniper on a boring ass "boss" that basically just stands there while trying to do hackboxes in between tumors, on full infection, dealing with annoying ass flyers when you likely are running sawed off-sniper both which arent exactly ideal at dealing with them. Oh and if anyone dies? Almost always an insta reset.
Also one thing, while I dont like rng, if you completely remove it, the level just becomes a monotonous grind of doing the exact same moves over and over and over and over and over, with the only diff being just the execution. Now that might sound great in theory, "oh its just a diff in skill then, perfect right?" But now, there is no more room to make plays, no more "strats", now it's just "the strat". Every run of a level looks and feels exactly the same. There is barely any imrpov or new interesting things, you are no longer running for "fun" you are running for "perfection", and because of human error, to get that theoretical max your gonna be running for countless hours on end with basically all runs other than THE run feeling ass, because your just gonna focus on "ok what went wrong, where did we lose time".
And btw, wouldnt adjusting for rng, bad or good, be considered a skill? If anything being able to get a good time with terrible rng is much more impressive (and fun) imo than getting WR with perfect rng. To me, my dislike of rng boiles down only to 2 things: Completely losing a run because of it (and by that im not referring to a run not being WR pace anymore, i specifically mean stuff like dying or softlocking, etc), or it being such a massive time waste, which is a problem because your overlap of free time for 4 players is likely minimal (its also just not fun running around looking for something only for it be the absolute last place you decided to check).
Also correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't "seeded" or "reading a seed" usually a separate category in most games speedruns? I feel like there is a reason for that and I dont feel like it should be allowed in standard runs but hey what do i know i barely speedrun in games anyways.
Anyways, if other people find that fun? Good for you. I know some people just enjoy seeing a lower number. Cant say im interested in that tho. Also no one needs to reply to this, that is all I have to say and i feel like i have elaborated my points sufficiently. You can share your own thoughts if you want, ill prolly read it, but dont expect a further reply from me.
Reading a seed and seeded are different
Also this is just how so many games speedruns are
Itâs what speedrunning is
So many games itâs just replaying the same thing over and over to improve little amounts of time, with human rng being the only factor
If you donât like this then it isnât a speedrun problem, itâs just you donât like speedruns like this
At least this there is SOME variation between runs
I have ran games where it is literally the exact same thing each run
Oh also when we are referring to âno rngâ it means actual rng factors like keys, scans, etc
Resources donât matter in this
The only one that could be considered a factor is tumour rng
But realistically itâs a small factor
my view on this is: rng is a component of speedruns that does create variation in runs BUT only up to a certain point. If you take a level and optimize the crap out of it, you can only play the best rng possible and u will play EVERY run as if u have that rng no matter what since otherwise u cant get world record. R6D1 does not have RNG that should contribute to time, but it does have rng that creates variation in runs, the truth is u still need some luck on enemy spawns for fog room. in theory tumor rng plays a factor but it is very minimal at best, even if the level of play aint that great
We also consider r6cx a âno rngâ run because you arenât rolling for keys or anything
And it only becomes rng if you push it to its extreme
you are forgetting that people can have fun by speedrunning, and running for "fun" is literally just them speedrunning
the replayability of r6d1 speedruns is indeed a bit lacking, but this is because if u dont care for wr, once u got a cycle skip... there's not much else to do unless u aim for world record
-
resource rng is not a thing
-
tumor rng, maybe for wr (unless you get trolled in a rare run. Skuller can explain)
-> the rng in 99/100 runs will not dictate you getting the sub 10:30 if you play it correctly -
dying isnt rly an insta reset, unless you die during the shooting stage (or are dead still until it happens)
-
yea with no rng it becomes... speedrunning. A test of only your skill, strats (micro optimizations at some point)
-
most levels do have "the strat" already
-
running for "perfection" is a bit insane, if you consider that this comp is made with leeway in mind. But you do know that speedrunning has the goal of "perfection"?
-
adjusting to bad rng in the situation is a skill. Getting the same time with worse rng is more impressive than gettng it with good rng. But its speedrunning. Not difficulty running, so you want to do whatever is fastest and getting the fastest time is done by getting better rng
-> there is strats you genuinely cant run correctly with the wrong rng (not r6d1 obviously, more stuff like R2B2, R5E1, R6D4 etc etc) -
seeded is very different from reading info from a seed. This is basically just a continuation of logs
(seeded "might" become a thing in the future. But it kinda leads to what you were not happy about, having it just be "the strat and only going for micro optimizations at some point)
Also r6d1 was chosen so the better speeds like r6d4 could have actual time dedicated to them instead of being lumped in with r6c1
i feel like if r5e1 wasnt the previous comp r6c1 and r6d1 wouldnt be as complained about
ive had enough fun to become like half the leaderboard for r6c1 and working on r6d1
i only really had one real r5e1 cs clear during comp with chill
which still remains the objectively funniest gtfo run ever
a lot of the r5e1 runs
and I mean A LOT
are just runs with chill
(it was still very heavily run and a very fun comp)
If chill didnât run, there would be way less runs on the board
But itâs like
People are expecting all the other speeds to be like r5e1
And itâs just unreasonable
And like people shit on these levels when others are having a lot of fun with it
The levels arenât bad because a few people said so
And the people who say that are the ones that âdonât like speedrunningâ
So like đ€·ââïž
"Anyways, if other people find that fun? Good for you. I know some people just enjoy seeing a lower number."
same thing to this
Thereâs a difference between saying âthis isnât my kind of speedrunâ and âthis level is a shit speedrunâ
Im mostly annoyed because the lvl was picked with 0 community input as far as im aware
i read that we're deciding what the lvl will be later
then suddenly now its r6d1
holy wall of text
Yeah can see that
It was decided between soy, me, Eva and Beth
We were going to do r6d4
But then
^
and why not let the community decide what it wants? rather than a letting a select few choose for everyone else? cant exactly say thats my fav way of doing things, i defo wouldn't have been nearly as annoyed if most people decided they wanted r6d1 rather than having a few people decide that
I shouldve committed to off brand r5c2 harder, but I figured ppl cared about a role too much
my bad guys
Thatâs fair
Ultimately soy agreed to it
Well who knows if soy will read this, prolly already hundreds of messages since he last opened chat, cant blame him if he decides to not read everything
But anyways, people can have fun whatever way they want, it only really becomes a problem whenever it might affect other people's fun, but that's a whole can of worms i dont feel like opening rn
Not everyone can be happy with these things and it will never be like that
Did tgb go off on his useless "but with seeded there's no variety and it's just learning same keystrokes/moves" rant again?
No
no
I see he did tho #gtfo-speed-running message
I did do the auth and data deletion endpoints
You need to read the whole conversation
that is not tgb saying its bad tho?
its him defending thats theres variation anyway?
(reminder that I agree with you that the time when tgb actually MADE that point it was a stupid one)
Whatâs the best level for a no log run?
Nvm remembered that R6D1 donât need
Disregard me being đ„Ž
Also finally got around to reading your msg, and the only thing i will respond to is this "But you do know that speedrunning has the goal of "perfection"?".
Because the answer is: No, no its not. Look at any remotely popular game, there are thousands, maybe even tens of thousands or even hunderds of thousands, of totally legit submissions. Most are not WR, nor were they trying to be.
Of course, some people run just to get WR, but saying that's the point of speedrunning when its an extremely small portion of the speedrunning community as a whole? Yea that's just straight up wrong.
I would also like to add, i know of a few people who have held WR in the past in said games, most of them no longer ran for WR after getting it once, several even stating that they regretted doing so half way and they only continued to get the WR due to sunk-cost fallacy.
levels where logs dont do anything
Disregard me being đ„Ž
anyways
I agree with the not going for wr point btw and likely missworded it
I advocate for people to push for their own pbs and have fun
There is a problem tho, each game leaderboard you take to compare to gtfo does not fully provide picture, reminder that gtfo:
- has higher level of entry being you need full team;
- the gameplay loop isn't that translatable to other games that well;
- and myriad other different things that differ one game from another both in game aspects and in leaderboard aspects.
If we take out the picture the ease of accessibility and try to compare speedrunning of TUTORIAL vs any other short singleplayer level in games close to mechanics to gtfo (horde/boomer shooters) and just compare percentage of people who played the game vs people who did a submission surprisingly we will land in a lot closer percentage than you would think.
Happy birthday?
Thank you
Ń ĐŽŃ
Altho I do have a problem understanding which audience medal mod will have because of statistically not many people return to this games speedruninng to improve their own PBs. All that medal mod does is shifts goal posts to more feasible times that people might get but the mod itself does not rly provide any value in running it. So far it's just glorified elitism mod 
happy bappy đ
ŃŃб
Thank you
happy birthday
Thank you
Iâd tend to disagree, hitting times closer and closer to perfection tends to showcase the best runs that youâll probably only get once in a lifetime.
Showcases just how fast you can get it.
I will be completely honest im not entirely sure how what you said relates to what i said but ill try my best to reply. Eva specifically said "speedrunning" not "gtfo speedrunning" so i answered with that in mind. Gtfo is a niche game, speedrunning is also a niche of video games, so a niche of a niche game is obviously going to be very small. I'm not directly comapring other game's speedruns to gtfo, what im comparing is specifically the goals that (most) speedrunners generally tend to have (which is not going for WR), since gtfo speedrunning is so small maybe the word "most" doesnt quite fit but for speedrunning as a whole? it defo does
apologies but i dont quite understand what you're trying to say
Because the answer is: No, no its not. Look at any remotely popular game, there are thousands, maybe even tens of thousands or even hunderds of thousands, of totally legit submissions. Most are not WR, nor were they trying to be.
you saying that other games have more submissions compared to gtfo is complexity of gtfo and it not being able to be comparable to other submission boards
You don't take into account the level of entry
and you don't take into account the speedrunning itself is a niche for any game
And that #gtfo-speed-running message
"you saying that other games have more submissions compared to gtfo" You do know thats not the main point im trying to make right? Im using other games as an example because the gtfo speedrunning is way to small to make an accurate judgement about speedrunning experience
also, literary message above yours: "Gtfo is a niche game, speedrunning is also a niche of video games,"
The whole point that I've been trying to make with my messages that you can't do that, and if we try to narrow scope to the most closest thing possible submissions/total playerbase percentage will be a lot closer between gtfo and any other game than you would think in that narrow scope.
which is why I said shift to percentages of submissions vs total playerbase
instead of "duh duh, niche game has less people playing, and even lesser for a niche of a niche"
duh no shit sherlock
I will be honest i really dont understand how this all relates to what i said
and im telling you i dont see the correlation
getting people interested in going for faster times
if 1 out of 100 people who ever tries the mod sticks for speedrunning that would be a plus
Cause you don't level the field, you don't have the same variables
When you go down to example that I provided with gtfo's tutorial
vs any other game
The percentages are a lot closer
Popcorn here if anyone wants it đż
the percentage of what exactly, playerbase to speedrunners?
and what does this percentage have to do with the point im trying to make?????
My bad, I had formation so I never got to finish.
Speedrunning aims to complete a game as fast as possible. As you progressively shorten time, you start to reach levels of perfection.
Iâve got WR runs, some of which are unbeatable/solidifed. do I ever regret running them? No. Showcases to everyone skill diff and luck.
Countering your argument.
Gtfo is a niche game, speedrunning is also a niche of video games, so a niche of a niche game is obviously going to be very small.
Either your misunderstanding what im saying or im not getting what you are saying
Just because a speedrun isnât WR, it doesnât allude to the main goal: completing said game as fast as possible.
Perhaps I shouldve clarified with my last point, obviously not everyone is gonna regret going for WR, many will be satisfied with it. And im not saying its necessarily wrong to go for WR either, im simply pointing that most speedrunners and those who are interested in speedrunning dont aim to get WR, which is why i think the statement of "speedrunning has the goal of "perfection" " is wrong. Perfection CAN be part of the goal, but is it the main goal or the main reason for speedrunning? For most speedrunners and want-to-be-speedrunners, the answer to that question is no.
... but are you denying the fact that of all speedrunning communities gtfo is among the smaller ones?
I would say that agrees w/ want-to-be or âcasualâ speedrunners, but I would disagree w/ speedrunners.
Our entire goal is to see if we can push times lower in our specific game/favorite games. Itâs why majority of speedrunners are in very few communities. Usually you dedicate yourself to a specific set of games as a ânormalâ speedrunner. Only person that defies this logic is Akuretaki
That being said, many communities develop tools to help speedrunners, and GTFO logger tool would just be another subset example.
Thats just an issue of how you want to define "speedrunners"
if you want to specifically split them then yea sure
But for me when someone says "speedrunners" i think of basically anyone who makes legit sumbissions on official sites and particpates in comps and tourneys and stuff
which includes all types
where again, the majority arent going for WR
Yet you just defined it yourself. Any âspeedrunnerâ who participates in competitions/tournaments are hardcore runners.
Legit submissions is just a general basis for anyone who wanted to put a run on the board following the rules. That is mainly everybody that wanted to do so. Many people are a one-and-done and canât be called a âspeedrunnerâ.
No people can still particpate in comps/tourneys without being hardcore runners lol
This is just based on sample size on SRC
Most submissions you see arenât one-and-done players or new guys
(For prize pool, not reg submissions)
Not saying they canât participate, itâs just far and few
The exception is the tryhardy tourneys and comps which do exist, but again, here im talking about all manners of comps and tourneys, which usually allow basically anything sumbission wise, compared to the more tryhardy ones which have a min skill level
Iâm not really referring to tryhardy competitions, Iâm more referring to the official SRC competitions
a reminder that "friendly" and "casual" comps do exist
Community run competitions are different
Iâd say half of community run competitions arenât recorded
So then you take that note and then try to apply what weâre taking about
Community run competitions have smaller outreach, whereas the official SRC competitions are very widespread
Majority of runners come from the gameâs very own speedrun community -> the runners that aim to improve their times
In community-based comps, they are any/all w/ a ton of one-and-dones or casual runners
Again, this just comes back to the whole whom do you consider a speedrunner
Im not really here to argue how do you define if someone is considered a "speedrunner" or a "runner" or whatever other term one may use
English is a funky langauge, i dont like arguments about word usage xd
i made my point on the group of people i was referring to, if you dont like that i used the word "speedrunners" all i have to say is Touche
I just think that w/ SRC, majority of runners have the goal of cutting down time
The people you refer to arenât part of that
cutting down one's own time != "perfection" or getting wr
big diff
im sure most people do want to improve their own times
but do most src runners try to go for perfect/flawless WR level runs that cant be beaten?
Well, that question is much easier to answer, no?
It is xd
Maybe we shouldâve led with that
And Iâd say a good quarter do
However you want to define âmostâ is on you
well im not 2 sure about the actual %
for me most is above 50%
and im confident whatever the % is its not above 50%
We have the stats from Farmington and we could calculate WR/run ratio or podium/run ratio, but maybe Iâll just leave that out there
Itâs 100% accurate
Because at Farmington, we pull the API data from the entire site

I got a 45% ratio of WR to runs alone
Rip
Higher than i thought it'd be
but tbf it do be SRC so ig it makes sense
if we factor in freindly comps and stuff defo would be much lower
And gtfo%
Currently taking RoN again so Iâm pretty occupied
Believe my podium/run ratio is ~70%
huge
@mint knot if you need one more ping me ima do solo R6A1 runs in the meantime
May ammo rng be with you đ
Yeah thatâs how it goes
đââïž đ€
Fr ts pmo ong dnt fw me vro
sybauidgafmisitu
happy bday
Thanks, fimsh
Herzlichen GlĂŒhstrumpf!
grattis pÄ födelsedagen!
I might screw it up, but
Danke Schon
isnt it schön?

i dunno if maids keyboard has the ö
and its better to type schon than the disgusting looking schoen
šbutton
Do I need to curse you with polish Ä , Ä, Ä, Ć, Ć, Ăł, Ć, Ćș, or ĆŒ?
Or with russian Đč or Ń or Ń
GewĂŒrzgurkenglasmanufaktierungserlassunggesetztverfassungsstiftherstellergebĂ€udeeinlassversicherung
erm rule 3 âïž đ€
said the most prolific rule 7 ignorerenjoyer
ya got me 
@placid marten @uncut saffron has a funi suggestion to the R6D1 kraken fight
nvm

Baited
he thought dmg done to armour was 1 hp so why not bring 4 auto pistols along with the snipers to try and early kill
you should try it
"team use your eyes" - moth quotes during R6D1
I whould try itđ
sorry for my rants lmao
can confirm that someone went down, I whiffed reloads, I missed sniper shots, and still got 10:30 (so basically what I said earlier about perfect gameplay is false lmao)
The growth is magical đ„č
who doesn't enjoy watching men grow before their very eyes?
me probably
but everything has a place
Ok
Ok
Ok
Ok
Ok
oK
Ok
ok
Ok
ok
oki doki
ok
ok
ĐŸĐș
K
Ok
ok
ok
ok
Ok
ok
ok

ok
ok
OK!
okay
Ok.
Ok
đŽ đ°
k
ok.
ok
ok
Ok
so when we bringing back lf r5e1 cs
nooooooooooo he broke it
I did the first one I can break it
@sullen silo say, mods are Not allowed
But what about playing the old Game Version?
Pre Sniper nerf

No
Afterall the Rules dont say that it Has to Be the current live version
you are not allowed to downgrade your game, but old runs are fine if proven to be old
But what about getting gud
GTFO Players HATE this one trick ^
Checkpoints đ
đ„čđ
I have Something devious cooking Up what might Cut a Major ammount of time while being far less skillfull 
when are the devs gonna add class 2 checkpoints
I would be OK with this because they are so jank, but this would also have an effect on several levels, I think most notably something like R7C2 since you wouldn't need to do multiple bioscans
we would like for them to not exists cause we cant play with kenny host despite it being optimal
cause either me and/or frosty desync hard on checkpoint scan finish
everytime we tried kenny host
door opens for him but for all 3 of us it just afks
for like 2minutes
then randomly it opens for 1
then wait another 10sec
open for 2nd
and then another 10sec open for last

end result: we have to play tgb host which is harder to pull off
ya unfortunately there's not much hope for it
i think when doing r1%, kenny frosty and eva host all resulted in some kind of desync
even mine did
but it seemed to settle down a bit and be least likely on my host
@mint knot is it time?
it is 10:36 PM
Checkpoints when they ruin a run
@rustic bridge has a vendetta against r7a1 1st checkpoint specifically
That was the god seed
can we reset for good checkpoint scan rng?
soonâą
How soon?
tommorow
Okay đ«
I want r1
âąïž= tomorrow
A1
Nah
cell skip https://discord.gg/WEVqcB8C
cell skip https://discord.gg/WEVqcB8C
npnp
honestly the reason i did it the way i did was cuz i couldnt be bothered to do polls for the level choice
it wont become a common thing
Lmao it wasnât that bad tho
i mean yeah
Maybe the times couldâve been harder
but also i dont want to leave the decision to certain people
Fair
yes it was
Meant D1
R5E1 next comp
đŠ
Itâs time to retire the events
Agree, the main barrier of entry to speeds in this game is finding a team. I would speed a lot more if there were people consistently speeding to join
i feel thats just the barrier of gtfo in general
problem with a dying game with a shit tutorial
Finding a game isn't hard, just pub
if you befriend every pub you always play with friends
zzzzzzzzzz
Yea
Tho teams get build by continously asking to play together
yeah cause Iâm sure ur definitely able to sleep in this heat
Must be niceâŠ
đ
rich people smh
what the hell man
I deserve it
My room is like barely 3 by 2 meters big
Has 3 internal walls
And one tiny window on the side of the house that gets the sun on it after midday
Itâs a literal oven
God I wish
rain comes monday
then thursday is hot again
somehow
rain might be tuesday
either way it's still like 25 degrees thursday friday
i'll be working so should avoid the worst of it in an air conditioned building
i now have a luxurious room on the top floor of a building where the sun beams in all day, worth it for that 2nd window
Honestly getting a mobile one and a hose extender is a lot easier than youâd expect
Cost a decent amount though
My setup is around ÂŁ600
Could you post a pic of it?
Been thinking about getting a AC but window mounted donât work well with my window
Like a pic of the whole setup or just the machine
Whole setup preferably
Sure gimme a sec
Yippers
Goes out
Weâve got a special adapter but havenât installed it yet cuz Iâm home alone
đ
We could drill a hole through the wall for the hose but eh
Could you send like the Amazon link to my dms? Gonna like buy one later in the year
Any cell skippers online in like 30 min
ye
not in 30 minutes and not for anyone who's around right now
Someone's grumpy
oh i'm sorry, i didn't think it unreasonable not to play when my room is over 30 degrees hot
Iâll have to look into it
Gotta hit that quota
lethal company frfr
that's a crazy setup can we have your Addy next
No
We managed to carry a new guy through CS only for them to all kill each other on extract scan
i blame you
i was the new guy
Nah it was me
Nah it was me
Nah it was me
Nah it was me
it was definitely frosty
Any cell skippers still on
Any pingurs
Guys do you think if I just lfg R5E1 I can trick pubs into doing cell skip
Do it
cell skip https://discord.gg/wvsqANtq
team im so cooked
idk man 3 omegapubs
i should get back on cell skip grind
đđ
ill cell skip with you rn if i get to be mute
bet
sure
I would but working rn
FUCK
FUCK
Iâll prolly be home in 1.5-2 hours
ty for game
ggs
i can try to play but we will probably not have players for cs
I have faith
Iâm home in like 15 but yes
Sounds good
ok ill speedrun some stuff and then we go in 1.5
Ye
No it doesn't
Me when I use my money to bribe the judge into saying not guilty
thank YOU for the game
it whispers "gamble me away"
zed gaming đ€€
I might be on but i doubt it
Thank YOU for getting me the sub 12:30 role
also that first run where i partial pulled
dying there was 100% my bad
because
i had 2am when i went down and 2 of you were 0/0
No syntav shouldâve clutched
in the end forcing me to backtrack for ammo meaning i didn't get to kill mom
like yeah the 3 of you should be fine but i made the mistake that meant we died fundamentally
red name đ€€
Frfr (I will be getting pink)
its ok we each threw at least one run
in the end it accumulated into a +1
huge
skill prog
do I hear cell skip
my fault team
yes we are playing in like an hour
its ok we have 4
Itâs a guarantee
https://discord.gg/YssyegCX @odd delta @paper arch
when medal mod

Any R5e1 cs
ye
Yep
I got a little busy, I will be down later this evening
Sure
any cell skippers on đ„ș
i do skip jail
what does this mean đ
imagine getting a bad run just to whip out the get out of jail card
me when im about to die in gtfo but i press 2 on my keyboard:
add one slug shotgun mag mid video to ruin the whole vibe
scattergun pov
sam is gay
fuck you
thats kinda gay
đđłïžâđ
just wiped in r4e1 speed cuz we got the most outrageous key of all time after reactor in shadow zone
how so?
we didnt know where zone I was and there was a ton of shadow smalls we werent expecting, and we pulled a scout we didnt know they would spawn back ther
you didnt know where zone I was?
like room? Or what o.O
Yes
yeah i was using that map but i still couldnt find it đ
F
i mean we found it just took a while
honestly I isnt too bad tho
i mean
very small room very close to where you enter
its pretty bad
Iâve always been an I defender but nobody else believes in it
Just compare I to J/K/L or G
g is not bad imo
oof
g is garbage
Thats genuinely a massive room
which you gotta fight typically
And you go out of your way by a lot for that key then
that reminds me of when I thought about best vs worst key rng you can realistically get (as in most variance of a single key)
Its probably smth like r1b2 or r4c1 tho ngl
this speed is lowk super fun tho
Maybe r3c1 hmm
actually who am I kidding
Its r2d2 technically
worst rng between 2 possible key spawns
cell skippers? https://discord.gg/VmRe8x6Z
if slot opens i probably can, ping
That comma saved you from a ping ngl
i might be on later tonight,
im going through cell skip withdrawls bro
Soonâą
I NEED IT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
least insane gtfo player
Well im still đ¶đ¶đ¶đ¶
even then we need to find a third and fourth
hello Mario
the world if i coudl play cell skip whenever i wanted
im just gonna lfg bro
cell skip (PLEEEEEEASE) https://discord.gg/ZmsZU7Mk
LF1 R6D3 https://discord.gg/kyaF94Kk 109775242031342833
...


?


?