#gtfo-speed-running

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glass cradle
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tf does that mean

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are they jumping constantly

urban nest
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amount of random jumping

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is wild

glass cradle
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LOL

urban nest
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xd

proven canyon
wind cliff
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Why the fuck

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Am I getting flamed

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Your mom is done for now ngl getting her flowers rn

urban nest
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big

wind cliff
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That is normally what she calls me glad you caught on

mellow pike
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any cellskippers?

restive mirage
restive mirage
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still +1 😩

viral monolith
restive mirage
rustic bridge
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@sullen silo Btw if you need help with times for r6c1, your best bet is probably me, tgb and Kenny

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Also Eva ig

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He’s a bad speedrunner though

sullen silo
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bluh

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yeah i forgot i had to get times for that

placid marten
rustic bridge
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bro i never said that

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i said if i was gonna make it i would make champion actually hard af

placid marten
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As If I couldnt do that

rustic bridge
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yeah but we arent

misty veldt
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Quick question: is R5E1 Cell Skip good practice for teams to test themselves to a level sufficient to be able to perform sufficiently at R8E2

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I am considering writing an expedition advisory accordingly

odd delta
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cell skip is a fun challenge and nothing more
the difficulty is very different from e2, i wouldn't consider it "good practice"

placid marten
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yea id say the difficulty is somewhat similar but it is a very different kind of difficulty (so its hard to judge either way

urban nest
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do e2 stealth!

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skill prog !

misty veldt
# urban nest do e2 stealth!

Honestly I’d be interested to see what the fastest split would be for a run where not a single shot is fired (can use tools) until the Class VI Mixed Alarm and if that would be on pace for a successful full clear

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Because as far as I’m concerned even on casual clears you don’t have time to full stealth

urban nest
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that's now what i meant by stealth

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but fine

odd delta
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you for sure have time as long as you never have to kill tank

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quite easily id imagine even

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shadow giants and cscouts would be the threats

misty veldt
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yeah, run would be an immediate reset if the Class III Stealth Scan to enter 493 has one of the scans spawn on top of a Tank sleeping in 492D

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What I refer to as well is making a good judgement call of "that ammopack is just too far away and the time/ammo we'd spend to get there is not worth it" such as if it's in 491F or 494D, but still having enough ammo for that Class VI Mixed

odd delta
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491F you alway go for

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494 is alarm zone no?

misty veldt
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yeah

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the room in 494 I refer to is the one past the gen/security door and looking to the right, where waves don't come from during alarm, but it is very densely populated, you can get Cell there but lockers on the side/back

misty veldt
# odd delta 491F you alway go for

Interesting, I had an attempt earlier where there were 2 Shadow Giants guarding a Scout, all of which were directly in the way of the locker with Ammo, so I hesitated on trying to line up that shot and just opted to go onwards. Noted to just go for it though

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So would that make the far side of 493 opposite the Terminal to open 494 worth?

fallen zealot
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man you make everything sound so complicated

little bloom
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shoot gun enemy die

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grunk beat level

candid jackal
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the timer in r8e2 only matters if you are exceptionally slow

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we have reached a point in skill progression where you can skip half the terms and still be coasting

misty veldt
# fallen zealot man you make everything sound so complicated

part of being an archivist on a level where you kind of have to speedrun by default, really. There's a lot of skill progression and familiarity where none of this excess really needs to be said anymore, but I unpack that a fair bit for the sake of wiki

mellow pike
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E2 is more of a knowledge check

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R5E1 CS is more of a skill check to me

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like mechanical skill

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i personally don't think u need much mechanical skill to do E2, you just need to understand the rules of the gamw

terse blaze
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I feel you need quite a bit of mechanical skill for the reactor at least

mellow pike
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U shoot bullets down a straight hallway

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only thing hard about the reactor is actually knowing where to sit and spawn blocking

terse blaze
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That ā€˜straight’ hallway has more bends than an old water pipe

cobalt cove
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shooting and spawn blocking requires no skill

paper arch
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guh?

terse blaze
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And tell me how you exactly spawn block on wave 3

viral monolith
paper arch
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nvm I got struck with the respond before you read the whole convo sickness

urban nest
mellow pike
terse blaze
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You still have at least 2 spawnpoints, unless a new strat has been developed that I don’t know about

urban nest
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they never backspawn if u keep the spawnblock

mellow pike
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you hold in the same spot the entire reactor

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except wave 1 if u wanna hold in front of door

misty veldt
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I think they're referring to holding in front of door leading back to Secondary Bulkhead, the room with tons of vertical storage tanks so you and enemies have to weave through it

placid marten
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so where is R5E1 cell skip mechanically intense d4rkevThink ?

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its also just abusing knowledge

misty veldt
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well, i suppose if one doesnt know about chill strat

terse blaze
placid marten
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you dont need anything like that

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you just need to know how to pull moms and kill the room

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you are in no real hurry

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you can melee everyting but hybrids super easily (and even hybrids) in the error

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or just shoot em

urban nest
terse blaze
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not sure what that spawnblocks, pretty sure that just causes enemies to spawn really far away

urban nest
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ur code 2 is spawnblocked as it has no room to spawn

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someone explained that i don't want to think too much

covert cypress
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I assume it’s related to reactor spawn push

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if you’re out far enough the enemies are forced to spawn a lot further back in the level so they can’t spawn in that zone because it’s ā€œtoo closeā€

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Also normal cell skip is still mechanically intensive

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Hybrid error and being low health is enough to cause problems for the average player

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before r8 it was probably 2nd hardest thing, beaten only by Brazil skip maybe

terse blaze
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I know about reactors pushing spawns super far away, I'm just not sure how you can fully block the spawns

heady meteor
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how hard is brazil skip

covert cypress
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fully block back spawns you mean?

heady meteor
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and why is it considered to be that hard

terse blaze
covert cypress
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well wave 2 you don’t need to spawn block so that’s irrelevant

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And I kind of just explained it

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If you push far away enough from reactor that is your spawn block

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it just works differently to the usual spawn blocking

covert cypress
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Lot of places for run to fail

rustic bridge
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Has no one played this level before lmao

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Also if your scatterguns have a frontal lobe it is the best strat for a clear

odd delta
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^ if you cook with the triple sentry strats it's free even if the scatter(s) don't

covert cypress
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There’s also the hold in A of the code 3 zone where the only risk is the door at the back breaking

mellow pike
mellow pike
placid marten
covert cypress
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Yeah that one

placid marten
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I was like
Holding in code 3 zone weird strat but ok

Wait a minute…

covert cypress
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I was thinking about defending there in wave 3

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and the thoughts merged

terse blaze
mellow pike
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bro what arguing

terse blaze
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This
You said "r5e1 cell skip requires more mechanical skill than r8e2."
I said "I think the reactor requires a similar level of mechanical skill"
And then you disagreed
That argument, where you keep repeating that cell skip is the hardest thing mechanics wise

mellow pike
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never said it was the hardest thing mechanics wise, i just think its harder than e2

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im also just disagreeing with u, nothing really triggering u

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u can take it that way tho, i dont really care lmao

terse blaze
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What I am taking away from it is that you've got some weird elitism around r8e2 where you say that it isn't hard at all and you just need knowledge

candid jackal
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"mechanically hard" means nothing when you don't give parameters

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like, i agree that cell skip is one of the most testing things you can do

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different kinds of difficulty for different levels

placid marten
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theres also the question at which point smth is purely mechanical

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you can always put knowledge as the base for smth

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up to a certain degree

covert cypress
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Are we just talking normal cell skip vs normal e2

terse blaze
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presumably?

covert cypress
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then why is this even a conversation lol

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answer is real obvious

candid jackal
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r8e2 throws more shit at you, cell skip is more like walking a razor's edge

covert cypress
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I think the r8e2 level is the hardest one actually

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real shocker I’m sure

mellow pike
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lol

candid jackal
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mhm so much more shit happens in e2

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though i will maintain that it's less volatile (if only slightly)

odd delta
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e2 is less volatile but it's just 2-3x as long so keeping it together for a full run is harder

glass cradle
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judging brazil skip difficulty is also kinda hard tbh

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the 2 main difficulty points are almost pure rng

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(1 of which is entirely handle able by skill, but still also just bypassable with a better seed)

covert cypress
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I think it’s pretty fair to say it’s hardest thing pre r8 tho

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Ignoring some speedrun routes maybe, I’m not really talking about speedrun more just normal runs where you’re playing for a completion

mellow pike
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i have yet to try r7e1 brazil skip

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idk if its even worth it tho

covert cypress
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I think it’s pretty fun

placid marten
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I feel like rating cell skip/brazil skip is always on the edge of ā€žis it suboptimal or actually smth differentā€œ

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you can probably cook some incredibly stupid challenge routes

mellow pike
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i think challenge runs are only fun if its to be more optimal

placid marten
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the only time its only ever more optimal is for speeds tho

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otherwise its not a challenge run but just an optimal/easier path

mellow pike
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yeahh thats why i never do challenge runs outside speeds

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aside r5e1, that one is just fun to play

placid marten
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Reactor skip is underrated nowadays ngl

mellow pike
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whats reactor skip and for which level

placid marten
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R6D1

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you skip reactor

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Hop into fogged up dark scan 6

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Then fight kraken on max infection

mellow pike
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interesting ill add it to my list

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need to do:

  • r7e1 brazil skip
  • r6d1 reactor skip
placid marten
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Fog skip 1 and 2 electric boogaloo (altho far quicker and far less interesting) exist too

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Megamom ā€žskipā€œ

mellow pike
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r8d2 ugh

rustic bridge
mellow pike
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what is gtfo hot box lmao

rustic bridge
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bro has never played the game

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its r6d1 reactor skip

placid marten
mellow pike
mellow pike
placid marten
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D tiers dont rly miss ngl

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R5D1 is a miss

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and R8D1 for replayability

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Rest is decent to great

rustic bridge
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d tiers probably the most consistently good apart from like 2

candid jackal
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i feel like i could do with another brazil skip clear, still not happy with myself in the prev one

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but alas, what can one when do bad at the game

placid marten
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Litteraly peak tension

glass cradle
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D tier best tier

rustic bridge
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fax

rustic bridge
glass cradle
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ngl a mod that remade all the D tiers into slightly harder versions of themselves

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would go hard

rustic bridge
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hmmm

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like same tiles just harder?

glass cradle
glass cradle
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same flow

rustic bridge
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i could cook on that

glass cradle
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just like more enemies or smth, enemy type swaps

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artificial bumps in difficulty

rustic bridge
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maybe later idk

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waiting for a message

glass cradle
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alr ill play with fam till like 3 hours from now ish

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will be around then

rustic bridge
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aight

glass cradle
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gotta find ppl tho xdddd

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(impossible challenge)

azure pilot
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I want innnnnnnnnnnnnn

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will be able to help with any runs if wish

rustic bridge
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actual runs

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right?

azure pilot
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:|

mellow pike
placid marten
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Imagine

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If chill was asking for actual times

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And not death times

glass cradle
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idk

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whatever we can find ppl for

viral monolith
mint knot
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iirc system error is just rundown 1 but each mission also has a secondary and overload (with some new missions inbetween)

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but the weapons are not vanilla LA_Shrug

azure pilot
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might check that out tbh

rustic bridge
mint knot
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A Sneak Peak of Rundown 0.5 the Prequel

misty veldt
rustic bridge
misty veldt
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as an example, wondering how to make R7D2 harder... probably mandating 2 cells so you get both mom and tank during run back

rustic bridge
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nah

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we play it like that anyway

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opening all doors

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more fun

misty veldt
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based

mellow pike
wind cliff
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Just make it a Perma mixed surge

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1 room towards elevator

restive mirage
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R5E1 CS +1 in 10 mins ish if anyone's interested

azure pilot
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yessir

proven canyon
mint knot
proven canyon
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@placid marten what R1 levels is good intro to speedrunning?

mint knot
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R1B1 trust

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and R1D1 thrust

proven canyon
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R1A1 trust

azure pilot
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r1c1 trust

rustic bridge
candid jackal
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B1 C2 you will use wardenmapper and you will be happy

placid marten
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no reset rng (key etc) or maps
decently fun for how simple it is

placid marten
proven canyon
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fairs, theres a guy who wants to get into running but hes not gotten that far yet so

proven canyon
placid marten
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R2 has B1, B4 aswell

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tho probably more B1 for simplicity

placid marten
proven canyon
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medal mod?

placid marten
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What we are working on rn (which will potentially even be allowed for speedruns)
has times for each level (any% clears, so no PE necessary) in a
Champion
Gold
Silver
Bronze

Medal tier

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ranging from pretty casual clear with no afking to a genuine strong speedrun

proven canyon
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interesting

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how would this integrate to like logs and that stuff?

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like would it be an "external" mod?

placid marten
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I am not too knowledgable about how that stuff works
but its just gonna be an r2mod man mod afaik with some specifics for it

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logs should work as usual

proven canyon
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wait wouldnt this just be like the log thingy TGB has but with online integration?

placid marten
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Idk how far we are exactly since im not the one coding and working on the UI
but maid is working on server/website stuff
auri on UI
tgb is doing tgb things
kenny is/was working on the medals

proven canyon
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fairs

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people cant download logs from the speedrun.com website right?

placid marten
placid marten
proven canyon
proven canyon
placid marten
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tgbs logger shows objective item spawns and the like

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it also has a splitter

proven canyon
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yea

placid marten
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and he does have the medals worked into it too

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but the medal mod is supposed to keep track of stuff in a cool way (once you have it)

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and other stuff

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but idk again

proven canyon
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wouldnt it kinda be like that one but just online function so that you get access to the logs/time that others have?

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fairs though

proven canyon
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nvm lol

drifting citrus
proven canyon
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fairs, the GTFO logger doesnt look great and its like sorta easy to access

drifting citrus
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technically the logger tool already can do everything the mod does (technically better since it is considered to be accurate down to the millisecond while the mod can be wrong)

proven canyon
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yea

urban nest
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is the mod out yet

drifting citrus
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however yea, accessibility: massive issue, no one knows about it, and I can't market it in any reasonable way other than word of mouth. And it doesn't look great. It works for a speedrun and it is customizable but it is also kinda shitty compared to what a mod can achieve

drifting citrus
urban nest
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aight

drifting citrus
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funnily enough: rn i am working on the mod-server integration

placid marten
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(Im not saying its not a ton of work, just found it funny)

candid jackal
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50% of the work is in the last 10% of the project

versed aspen
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Finding +2 speed run players for R4/R5. East Europe location is prefer.

proven canyon
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Teamurs im speedrunning my work

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Swear I’m like 2 hours ahead of what I should be

obsidian dome
dawn wave
rustic bridge
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its a sad day for gtfo speedrunning

candid jackal
rustic bridge
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i guess you dont read the channel

hollow aurora
candid jackal
eternal dust
mellow pike
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game officially dead

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whens comp maaan

rustic bridge
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@sullen silo Btw for r6c1, times should probably be 17 minutes and 21

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i think'

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@drifting citrus @placid marten any objections?

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also when choosing next level

wind cliff
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what if we chose r5e1 again

glass cradle
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"chosen" is a generous phrasing

placid marten
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people rly wanted the wheel

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it couldve been worse

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but r6c1 is seriously the funniest since nobody even considered it...

proven canyon
placid marten
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R6C1 as a speed level is completely fine (theres better options but for sure worse ones)
its just that it already was the level for a speed comp (honestly not a, but "the" speedcomp)

mellow pike
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r6c1 is pretty fun

azure pilot
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DATA CUBES

proven canyon
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CUBES OF DATA

azure pilot
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Cuboids that include vast amounts of information

odd delta
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jish has 2 points and they're both correct

wind cliff
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I just think I wouldn’t have had r6c1 on the wheel yk

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like it is like playing spin the bottle then it points at the ugly person no one wants to kiss.

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Maybe we shouldn’t have invited them

proven canyon
wind cliff
proven canyon
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Yes

wind cliff
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Amazing

odd delta
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every level that wasn't an E tier was

wind cliff
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10/10 no notes

proven canyon
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Every level except for E tiers was

wind cliff
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No notes amazing planning

drifting citrus
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i did say that the wheel was a bad idea

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imagine r5b4

wind cliff
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LOL

proven canyon
wind cliff
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Your kidding

drifting citrus
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technically r1c1 had "some" skill

wind cliff
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R6c3 is on the wheel to

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Amazing

drifting citrus
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compared to r5b4

wind cliff
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LOL

odd delta
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every person who actually runs the game and was serious in their vote voted for community choice

drifting citrus
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just walk the entire level

wind cliff
odd delta
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soy fully did not care that 90% of wheel voters didn't run anything ever

proven canyon
# drifting citrus imagine r5b4

R5B1 would’ve made me ragequit cuz we lost at the last gen on that one (if it’s the one I’m thinking of @misty veldt)

wind cliff
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Two time lines are 33:32 and 33:33

proven canyon
odd delta
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r5b1pe speeds would be a travesty

proven canyon
wind cliff
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Than r5b4

proven canyon
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Was R5B4 the secondary reactor level?

odd delta
odd delta
drifting citrus
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r5b1 pe speeds at least you could argue there is some interesting stuff if u have more chill times

proven canyon
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Goddamnit he’s playing repo we ain’t gonna get a response

odd delta
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r5b1pe could be cool but it just has so much boring room clear that becomes ass if you push speed

drifting citrus
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wait

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r5b1pe glitched run surely

proven canyon
odd delta
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r5b1 but you are allowed to cconsole in an extra bhk to do secondary during overload

drifting citrus
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funnily enough for optimal speed u cant doorbug anything pre secondary

odd delta
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?
you just doorbug first alarm and everything becomes free

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why would you not

drifting citrus
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you loose stamina throughout the entire overload + secondary

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because freeze bug allows u to invalidate secondary the threats in there are much lower

placid marten
drifting citrus
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so carrying cell into the entire blood door is doable

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the strat would actually be kinda funny

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tho it would also require the literal fuckin command center probably for optimal speed with like all 3 clients sharescreening to host for door opens

placid marten
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like... the 2nd time has to be 33:18

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thats legit how champion and gold medal are set up LOL

proven canyon
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I mean yes but also yanno

drifting citrus
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33:17.500 vs 33:17.999 vs 33:18.999, for times imagine

proven canyon
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The wiki map wasn’t updatedšŸ˜”

placid marten
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you dont even need to be perfect in reaching extract with 4 people

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33:17 is that stupid to get

proven canyon
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Lmao

placid marten
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R5B4 is the worst level for speed comp

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theres a few close

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but its the worst

proven canyon
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That’s the reactor secondary right?

placid marten
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what?

drifting citrus
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r5b4 is timed event

proven canyon
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Isn’t there a reactor in secondary or am I thinking about a diff B level?

drifting citrus
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just main

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run to extract

proven canyon
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Oooooh

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Aight

odd delta
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ngl
a warden protocol with reactor secondary could go kinda hard

drifting citrus
proven canyon
eternal dust
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šŸ¤”

misty veldt
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in terms of the absolute longest when considering 100% category where does R6C3 PE rank

placid marten
proven canyon
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Ghostly is the reason it’s ingrained into my head /j

misty veldt
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Overload has that 120s team scan

placid marten
proven canyon
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Bruh

placid marten
proven canyon
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They massacred the levels

odd delta
placid marten
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I dont remember the rundown

drifting citrus
placid marten
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But it was cool

proven canyon
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Frfr

placid marten
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Either way cuz I saw it earlier

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R5B1PE is a dogshit speed lol

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glitched or not

drifting citrus
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r5b1 is a good speed because it contains bbc

placid marten
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r5b1 main is fine

proven canyon
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Genuinely wouldn’t run that shit

placid marten
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Ye

sullen silo
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i even said that here

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at that point some of the people most outspoken against the wheel switched their tone

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so i just went with the wheel

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its impossible to make polls exclusive to specific people short of making an entire new channel for them which is kinda overkill

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plus it would exclude people who want to get into runs but havent done one before

rustic bridge
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Let’s just be happy r6c1 was chosen

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And then we can choose a good level for the week after like r6d4 or something

glacial shore
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man I hope it's r6d4

rustic bridge
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Good speed

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And you only are like forced to roll for 1 key

mellow pike
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i hope its r5e1

glass cradle
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i hope its r5e1

viral monolith
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i hope its r5e1

delicate flare
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i hope its e5r1

proven canyon
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I hope it’s 5r1e

fast magnet
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i hope its r5e1

wind cliff
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or did i skill issue

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the vote button

sullen silo
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you chose right

proven canyon
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Soy did you vote?

rustic bridge
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I mean I think it was to be expected with a poll like that

sullen silo
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nah i didnt

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unlike some people, im not gonna vote on a poll that has to do with something im not participating in

restive mirage
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i hope its r5e1

mint knot
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I hope its R1E5

fallen zealot
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I hope it's 5e1r

viral monolith
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i hope its r5e1 deranged

urban nest
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i hope game dies šŸ˜”

eternal dust
azure pilot
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I hope it’s RE51

misty veldt
odd delta
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naw

misty veldt
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trying to get reactor codes (with a full team scan to enter zones after a keycard) and then having to push back through a warden protocol plus a failure wave would be pretty annoying tbh

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like yeah you can kite of course but I feel like there'd be a more nuanced way to do this to not just die or be forced to kite every single code hunt

fallen zealot
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what if

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hear me out

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you remove team scans

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crazy right

misty veldt
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you'd have to do that the whole way then, as many higher tier reactors have at least 1 alarm or a bunch of full team scans to do

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heck even R3A3 has them

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Another key distinction to at least giving brief pauses to warden protocol (such as on a successful code input or zone enter) would be, how would it be that different than just making a Reactor Main with no Secondary, and every code hunt is a ridiculously short timer varied failure waves, and tying typically warden protocol events like turning off lights, spawning boss enemies, or raising fog for a bit, to opening doors or moving past a point in a zone, like R7E1 final code hunt

odd delta
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just like

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remove the teamscans

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and have almost all enemies spawn in weakling role so that there's still enough enemies to fight when split

urban nest
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u should play deadline zed

odd delta
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is this a game or a mod

misty veldt
#

hmm alright, I will add this to my modded notes because it is a cool idea

urban nest
#

t3e2

odd delta
#

ouh

#

man it always comes back to samdown doesn't it

urban nest
#

it's a better r6c3

restive mirage
#

Any R5E1ers?

rustic bridge
#

@sullen silo where comp?

proven canyon
rustic bridge
#

I thought it was meant to start yesterday

proven canyon
#

Idk

candid jackal
#

still a bit further to go i think, remember that the dates started when i'm in employment

sullen silo
#

It was gonna be yesterday but I decided to wait another day or two cuz I’m not sure if I’m going to be too busy in a week to start the second one and all that

candid jackal
#

oh my god i don't start employment before the comp

#

good thing i'm not planning to play much

rustic bridge
#

Or a special ā€œspeedrun overlordā€ role

mellow pike
#

please do not give frosty speedrun overlord perms he will literally ban me from this server

sullen silo
#

temptimg

rustic bridge
sullen silo
#

while i appreciate the offer

#

this is more of a one time thing just cuz im moving back home

rustic bridge
#

ah fair

covert cypress
#

when's the test run happening @sullen silo

fallen zealot
#

Where's the 80 hour worth of test runs

rustic bridge
sullen silo
#

considering how much people hate it

rustic bridge
#

people are babies

#

a lot of people have been having fun with it

sullen silo
#

but once the second weeks level is decided maybe ill do one then

drifting citrus
#

there is 1 group at least that i know and is already running

#

so doing it would be nice

#

(also r6c1 is still a pretty nice speedrun anyway so more people running would be nice since not everyone played during the 10c competition)

rustic bridge
#

r6c1 is a decent speed

#

people are always going to complain as long as it isnt r5e1

urban nest
#

as long as it's not an e tier tbh

drifting citrus
#

shit take objectively btw

fallen zealot
#

I love taking shits

placid marten
urban nest
#

ye i agree

covert cypress
#

and so i have someone else who understands the pain of the heat

sullen silo
#

fineeeeee

#

maybe at some point today

#

actually probably at some point today

#

probably start the competition tomorrow

#

or late today

rustic bridge
#

wheres MY role

glass cradle
#

under my name pub

sullen silo
#

gotta carry me first

fallen zealot
#

admin carrier has logged on

rustic bridge
fallen zealot
#

oh shit I do

#

nvm then bye

covert cypress
#

I’ll try to be awake for it

sullen silo
#

uhhr

#

in the next hour or two?

covert cypress
#

i can do next hour yeah

#

ill be free after this nightreign run

sullen silo
#

cool

#

who else wanna run

fallen zealot
#

I'm at work

#

lemme launch gtfo mobile

azure pilot
#

Me me me please

sullen silo
#

ok we need one more then

azure pilot
#

Gotta shower so will be about 20 mins

covert cypress
#

im good whenever

#

@rustic bridge wake up

rustic bridge
#

im in the middle of a speedrun session

#

coerce my team into letting me go for 30 minutes

covert cypress
#

ditch them it'd be really funny

#

@placid marten hop in rn

#

if i convince half the team itll work

placid marten
#

cant

covert cypress
#

frosty can

#

therefore u can

azure pilot
#

Sound logic

pearl sage
#

quick question what would you guys say is a fast time for R1A1 solo with bots?

placid marten
#

fast or FAST

pearl sage
covert cypress
#

eva tabbing out mid speedrun

#

crazy

placid marten
#

we are bricked on a checkpoint

#

lol

covert cypress
#

massive

pearl sage
placid marten
pearl sage
rustic bridge
placid marten
drifting citrus
#

WE LOVE CHECKPOINTS, GREAT ADDITION

placid marten
#

I did a 5 flat with a decent key and ok hsu before

covert cypress
#

i wanna just get a run done and go to bed so

pearl sage
covert cypress
#

ideally the sooner the better

rustic bridge
covert cypress
#

itll be a sub 20 run easily im sure

#

youre 5 mins old

#

original joke

rustic bridge
covert cypress
#

LOL

drifting citrus
rustic bridge
#

shameless plug

pearl sage
sullen silo
#

plug

#

actually i shouldnt say that

#

im a responsible admin

covert cypress
#

of course

pearl sage
azure pilot
#

Am ready now

#

@sullen silo

covert cypress
sullen silo
#

ill be a minute

covert cypress
#

1

#

2

#

3

placid marten
#

we are rdy

placid marten
#

knowing spawns is just a massive improvement over having to gamble for rng

rustic bridge
placid marten
#

@azure pilot we get 8 player mod and soy in aswell

#

surely

azure pilot
#

:P

#

am down lol

pearl sage
rustic bridge
#

i think this is an actual run lol

covert cypress
#

it is

placid marten
#

which sucks

#

lol

azure pilot
#

oh well enjoy :)

pearl sage
drifting citrus
#

for r1a1 it takes about ~45secs to reach key boxes which means u play for 45 secs to reset

pearl sage
drifting citrus
#

fun fact: yesterday i did 1000 resets in r1a1 and i think we had like 2 playable seeds for current world record

pearl sage
#

like does it simply type for you?

placid marten
#

it checks a file that the game autogenerates

#

that file has info

#

which we understand

pearl sage
drifting citrus
placid marten
#

and the tool shows numbers that you can check on a map

#

(linked on src discord and src website)

pearl sage
#

i still want to do runs without any external tools for now lol i have a lot to work on still

placid marten
#

and the tool is just there to make the "checking" the log part easier

pearl sage
drifting citrus
placid marten
#

they are with bots

#

you kinda just spam sentries

drifting citrus
#

and he has some great guides that work very nicely

placid marten
#

for the alarms

drifting citrus
#

ehhh with bots it becomes easy yea if u place all sentries down

pearl sage
drifting citrus
#

with bots but no tools u can still learn general mechanics in an easier setting

placid marten
pearl sage
pearl sage
#

im wanting to get better at the game since i want to be able to teach any of my friends who get the game

#

speedrunning r1a1 is simply me wanting to get faster at basic mechanics

#

my pb rn is 10 min with a nonoptimal loadout

sullen silo
#

@azure pilot gave you the admin carrier role since eva stole your slot

azure pilot
#

LOL

#

nice

#

thanks

fallen zealot
#

carrying admins without even being there

#

that's how good he is

pearl sage
pearl sage
placid marten
#

šŸ‘

pearl sage
#

had to restart from checkpoint cus i teamkilled a bot right after getting checkpoint scan(they love running into scattergun bullets lol)

placid marten
#

just so you know (for actual speedruns) boosters and checkpointing are banned

placid marten
#

gj on the pb lowering tho

pearl sage
#

im not even recording it just doing it for practice and fun

placid marten
#

Going from 10 to 5

pearl sage
#

yeah lol changing to four sentries helped a ton

#

also i had good rng on key but bad on hsu

#

key was in same zone as terminal

#

but hsu was up the ladder in section E

pearl sage
rustic bridge
pearl sage
rustic bridge
#

theres a jump you can do to get up easier

pearl sage
#

yeah but i have to go silently cus the bots gets pissy when a room wakes up and if one of them goes down they normally all go down(in a run)

candid jackal
#

which jump

#

is it the funny box jump

#

probably not, but rather going up the stairs to the right and jumping over

pearl sage
candid jackal
pearl sage
#

cus i dont like giving them shotguns with how inconsistent they are when it comes to weapon choice

rustic bridge
#

give them burst cannon

pearl sage
#

just for a speedrunning or should i just be giving them it in most missions

rustic bridge
#

they are cracked with it but it just uses a lot of ammo

#

but it doesnt matter for r1a1 cause short level

pearl sage
pearl sage
pearl sage
pearl sage
rustic bridge
#

yes

pearl sage
pearl sage
candid jackal
#

it's the inevitable result of playing levels that could do with touching up

rustic bridge
#

lemme just roll for that 1/10000

pearl sage
rustic bridge
pearl sage
odd delta
#

the trio speeds

rustic bridge
#

we got a 2:39 but want to roll for the god rng lmao

rustic bridge
#

yeah it was hack box B key and front B hsu

#

but i think scans on second were mid af

pearl sage
#

Ah

pearl sage
drifting citrus
#

which is crazy good

#

saves like 5-7 seconds compared to our run i think

rustic bridge
#

we had a scan in front of big door lmao

pearl sage
pearl sage
proven canyon
#

whats a quick solo speed?

candid jackal
#

r1a1

viral monolith
#

r2d2

proven canyon
#

idk if i could beat R1A1 solo kek

viral monolith
#

lock in

proven canyon
#

ait what loadout?

mellow pike
#

sawed off, hel rifle, burst, bat

viral monolith
mellow pike
#

r6a1 has a million and one long range hallways so hel rifle collats are huge

proven canyon
#

do i have to find first ammo?

urban nest
#

preferably yes

hollow aurora
proven canyon
#

is it easy though lol

misty veldt
#

No

mellow pike
#

R3 solos are not fun unless you're doing R3D1 IMO

hollow aurora
fallen zealot
#

r3d1 is okay

#

i agree

proven canyon
#

currently i get overwealmd with the class 3 alarm

hollow aurora
#

Don't focus on sticking scans, focus on positioning to a safe place

placid marten
#

R6A1 class 3 can be a bit scuffed since they can come from both sides (aggroing the connected room)

If you struggle while they are only coming from 1 side… uuuh. Rip?

hollow aurora
#

Just play a line??

proven canyon
#

ill upload some vids when i get back ig

#

but also a part of me feels too slow to actually submit it if i completed a run lmao

placid marten
proven canyon
#

On my last run it I remembered to close two doors I think I would’ve had a greater chance ngl

placid marten
placid marten
placid marten
#

My first posted speedrun was a 9 min r6a1 duo

proven canyon
#

I’ll think about hel auto

placid marten
#

Check out how other people speedran it to get a feeling

#

Back when I started we had far less stuff to learn from

proven canyon
hollow aurora
proven canyon
#

old disgruntled man ā€back in my day we didn’t have this internet thing you young people haveā€

placid marten
#

those were some rough times lol

placid marten
#

I did about 800 manual resets of r6a1 with a friend for r6a1 in og

#

we were running for 3 specific keys

#

Nowadays you just dont suffer the same way

placid marten
#

I think the closest bit to old resets is r5d1 cell resetting

proven canyon
placid marten
#

as you gotta do an alarm to get a decent moment to check

placid marten
# hollow aurora I still dk how to use logs

There is more than 1 guide for how to find/open and what to manually check for (maps are in a steamguide that linked multiple times)

There is also tgbs logger which is pretty automatic (still needs the maps)

placid marten
#

Easier to get through and better funnel (if it works)

proven canyon
#

Ooooh ok

#

Lowkey left hasn’t been that bad for me

#

But that might be cope

placid marten
#

its technically slightly faster if you take the left big door into right small door route

#

but thats so much harder to shoot than right solo

proven canyon
#

Yea but currently left side I can usually not wake up the rooms (which I realize is rookie mistake no?)

placid marten
#

it depends

#

Shooting during alarms is better

#

Since you dont move anyway

#

but a free kill on path is a free kill

proven canyon
#

Yea well ima upload a vid anyways so you’ll see what I mean

#

Anyways gtg to work now

mellow pike
#

they'll funnel down the small ladder

#

I've never has them not come from that big door as long as everything's open

#

giants are a bit annoying to deal with but shouldn't be too hard

placid marten
#

cuz them being able to spawn near and thus take the other rooms path aswell is what makes it kinda fucked

drifting citrus
placid marten
mellow pike
mellow pike
#

actually thinkikng about it i have had them break through the other doors a couple times

#

not super often though

fallen zealot
#

so like i watched the skuller and company run of 16:39

#

is the run just like scan rng and doing giant zone/scouts correctly?

#

and running well?

glacial shore
#

there is other little stuff you can do to save some seconds but that's most of it

fallen zealot
#

like what

#

on your giant zone i guess you lost a bit of time on first door that's like all i saw

#

but tbf yours is the only run i've seen

glacial shore
#

key and data cube spawns have a large influence to the run as well

fallen zealot
#

well yeah key was kinda obvious

#

didn't need to mention it

#

data cube wouldnt have guessed

glacial shore
#

make little mistakes and get needed resources without falling behind cube grabber, then the spawns for cubes don't matter as much

mellow pike
glacial shore
mellow pike
restive mirage
#

Anyone need a 4th?

pearl sage
#

@golden yew we got 5 min

#

also had god rng

#

but fucked up so many times lol

rustic bridge
#

Also @sullen silo you wrote 50 minutes at the end of the thing instead of 30

pearl sage
#

kenny taught me so much about how bots work lol

rustic bridge
#

Kenny is the goat

pearl sage
#

also the game messed with us so bad lol we were going for sub 5 min and got exactly 5 min

rustic bridge
#

Lmao yeah that happens

pearl sage
#

best hsu spawn and key in box directly next to terminal

rustic bridge
#

As in you had close B hsu?

pearl sage
rustic bridge
#

Oh yeah that’s not the best one that one is about a 10% chance. The best one is about a 0.38% lol

pearl sage
#

we would have been faster if i was using log tool but we wanted to go without it for learning

rustic bridge
#

Yeah that’s fair

#

Sounds like you’re doing good though

#

I want to get a sub 5 solo r1a1 but it’s just such a shit run to get

pearl sage
rustic bridge
#

Huge that’s what I like to hear

pearl sage
#

much better then my first gtfo stream of me going for r1a1 solo

#

just two people in chat arguing back and forth over semantics and useless stats

#

for example one person was telling me to stop using hel revo because of its detection range lol

wind cliff
#

Soy your pfp with repo thing is crazy

#

It scares me

golden yew
pearl sage
#

lol

mellow pike
#

watch the 15:59 run vid

azure pilot
#

Ight

mellow pike
#

but not frosty's

azure pilot
#

Why

mellow pike
#

because he doesnt need more views

azure pilot
#

Sounds bout right

#

Skuller gets the view

rustic bridge
#

YES IT DOES

#

I NEED MORE VIEWS

mellow pike
#

"yes it does" <- clearly a bot

azure pilot
rustic bridge
#

Says the Australian

proven canyon
azure pilot
proven canyon
#

Im gonna get roasted so hard šŸ„€

rustic bridge
#

NOW

candid jackal
#

alright who decided on r6d1

#

i am not counting bullets into kraken

proven canyon
candid jackal
#

might as well have done r6 story% i guess

#

also

#

the discord announcement requests some additional stuff that isn't required for an SRC submission

#

mainly that all loadouts are visible in lobby in video before dropping

rustic bridge
proven canyon
rustic bridge
#

i doubt you need that

#

we didnt do that

candid jackal
#

ya i don't think anyone did lmao

pearl sage
#

I get my cast removed in four days wooooooooo

azure pilot
#

lets goooo

pearl sage
#

Then a ton of physical therapy and then I will be able to walk again

#

I never thought I would miss the simple act of standing up and stretching while gaming soo much lol

fallen zealot
#

you guys walk?

pearl sage
#

In about two months I will be able to run irl again and not just in video games lol

fallen zealot
#

I just super glued myself to my computer chair

placid marten
pearl sage
placid marten
#

what goat means (I hope) is that you count sniper shots as a team
because you can avoid having to deal with 1 phase of the boss in R6D1 if you time multiple shots at once for the last hit on the tumor

placid marten
#

and doing that is very rough and not necessary realistically

#

expected time loss due to having to reload with snipers (and using slower snipers) is about 20 seconds. 25 with human error compared to before

azure pilot
pearl sage
#

Instead of counting total team shots?

#

Ik it is prob a bit more complicated to get used to but I think it would save time and reduce human error during runs

#

Like for example if 6 shots are needed and 3 people are bringing snipers then each person would simply use one mag

#

Idk just a random idea from someone with experience in games with raid mechanics

mellow pike
fallen zealot
#

the issue is not people shooting more

pearl sage
fallen zealot
#

give them some credit lmao

pearl sage
#

True lol

#

Just was confused why they would be talking about counting ammo when there are more consistent things to do for resource management and I wasn’t aware of skips for the fight

chilly rose
#

is there a list of possible spawn locations in the last room for the cube?

azure pilot
#

probably in the speedrunning serfver

placid marten
chilly rose
#

sub 30 next run I believe

hollow aurora
#

Anyone wanna run r6c1 in approximately 1 hour

candid jackal
#

i may be home then
whether or not i'll want to play, who knows

hollow aurora
#

Hopefully I get good rng

placid marten
#

ngl

#

rng doesnt matter that much

#

the time is set to where you can get it with a good run

#

(rng obviously helps tho lol)

hollow aurora
#

I meant rng about if goat gets to play with me

placid marten
#

nah for goat you dont need good rng

#

you just gotta be the good rng

#

or open R8A1

hollow aurora
#

Nah I have bad luck with my run irl

candid jackal
#

right, automod

#

it's my rng as to whether i feel well enough to play/up for playing

#

what isn't rng is how team plays and if that upsets me

placid marten
#

Upset speedrun any%

chilly rose
#

31:06 >:(

hollow aurora
#

so close to sub 30

fallen zealot
#

sub 1 when

hollow aurora
#

over -3 when

spark socket
pearl sage
viral monolith
fallen zealot
viral monolith
fallen zealot
fallen zealot
#

wow watching these guys speedrun r6c1 looks so fun ngl

#

nvm they're running i lied

wind cliff
#

1

rustic bridge
terse blaze
#

can't wait for the r6c3 speedruns where the strat is just to walk everywhere

chilly rose
#

runs lost due to bot friendly fire: 6

proven canyon
chilly rose
#

dont be hating on my squad like that

#

they may be a bunch of idiots

#

but theyre my group of idiots

proven canyon
#

i used to be like you

#

but then i got to R2D1

mellow pike
#

if my team never tk'd me we'd have WR by now

rustic bridge
#

and $20

proven canyon
mellow pike
#

no lmao

proven canyon
#

bro juked me

proven canyon
#

teamurs i finally did it

#

solo R6A1

pearl sage
versed echo
#

Looks like I need to run sometime

misty veldt
proven canyon
misty veldt
#

I was talking about u

proven canyon
#

šŸ˜”

pearl sage
#

So quick question how long has pmom%(or as I like to call it forced abortion) category existed

pearl sage
rustic bridge
#

didnt actually go for a good time

#

still dont know why that video did so well

pearl sage
#

Also my friend I’m playing through the game with came up with an interesting speedrun idea his idea is all medkits% where you have to find and use every med kit on a map

rustic bridge
#

would be pretty boring and also extremely rng based

pearl sage
rustic bridge
#

we do that in our speedruns anyway trollface

chilly rose
#

28:17 RAHHHHH

rustic bridge
chilly rose
#

[BOT]DAUDA, [BOT]HACKET, [BOT]BISHOP #1 teammates

#

3 fucking team kills during T scan

pearl sage
chilly rose
#

ye, burst cannon + burst rifle

#

i know they tk more but i just pray they dont and it works out great

pearl sage
pearl sage
placid marten
proven canyon
#

Bruh kraken hate

pearl sage
proven canyon
#

šŸ„€

chilly rose
#

besides gambling is fun

pearl sage
#

Also idk why but my friend saw it on a vid and described it to me as I quote ā€œa giant flesh stick that blasted everywhereā€

proven canyon
placid marten
#

If you hate kraken then just dont fight it

#

Surely

pearl sage
proven canyon
#

Bruh automodded

#

Cocks isn’t but the singular is

chilly rose
proven canyon
#

šŸ„€

pearl sage
#

Spin ahh damnit
Spin ahh damnit Spin ahh damnit
Spin ahh damnit Spin ahh damnit
Spin ahh damnit

mint knot