#gtfo-speed-running
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Theres an easy solution to this :)
i came from a different server from a VC with 2 ppl just talking about silksong news
u spend like 5 runs learning patterns
I kinda suck at videogames tho
and suddenly it's super free
I don't even have all the masks I think
and soul containers
i kinda don't like metroidvania :d
i tried dead cells - couldn't get into it
hollow knight doesn't even look appealing, idk
hk and dead cells are two different games
they're the same genre
i mean
i'm talking about the genre as a whole
HK doesn't look appealing to me, idk
sounds like a skill issue
i also tried Ori and the Blind Forest
hk is a banger
Ori series are soo good
than hk imo
But ye
Hollow Knight is so fucking amazing
it's a chill game
it's beautiful but just didn't hook me
^
i liked watching it more than playing
they are not
Dead cells has some metroidvania-esque unlocks
dead cells is probably more roguelike
isn't dead cells a roguelike
ig
But they only affect which routes you can take during run
its a rogue lite platformer with some aspects that are used in metroidvanias at best
yea
fair point
hk is kinda a game where first playthrough is a banger
and piecing lore is actually fun
and then u get a bomb every now and then
I mean P5 isnt rly hard
Nah I had challenges in the game tbh
its the last 2 segments that are a challenge
Im just bad at videogames though
Like mantis lords took me like 40+ attempts no nail upgrades
kek
P5 is just a marathon until end
Or more like, you spend 2 days practicing these 2 bosses until you can do them blindfold
Cause you're worried to waste 40 mins
that adds up
tbf, most videogames are inherently not hard as they are made with the intent of you winning
the speed of adptation ofc differs
do u need a reminder on what server ure typing rn

unironically
that requires precise team communications
and idk how the copypasta goes later
cuz when u finish nearly every game in 100 hours
fine 200
that shit without carrying takes at least double so
the main difficulty is info deprivation
but i have a warped perspective of "hard"
Yea gtfo has a steep learning curve
have you heard of this small indie game called Noita
easier than Noita
as someone who has heard of noita but never played it, my impression of it is you pick up any 2 items and there is a chance you accidentally explode yourself upon attempting to do anything afterwards
sounds about right
noby u have a great example
100% the game by yourself is actually impossible in Noita
yes, but they still beat it. or, well, nearly beat it
i'm not saying gtfo isn't hard
but it's much easier than a lot of other examples
nah
and by "a lot" i mean in the range of actually hard videogames
my man pulls J 5 times
not all videogames
sky, it's relative
Real
idw hear it wah wah wah
it's defo up there
yeah
imo the hardest part is getting a team that is willing + capable to learn at a good pace (if you were to do it by yourself)
but idk
i haven't started this game with no info
noby imagine
u never knew back damage existed
are you trying to cook him even more?
back damage isn't something you can't discover
reload cancel is more niche, that's true
again u have a great example
Lot of yapping and no running
of a team playing without outside info
Get some runners going
back damage is like... pretty easy to spot if you pay attention
idk
wait, they actually didn't know about back damage up to r8?
theres a small minority of people who learn even half the major and minor mechanics playing by themselves. And its usually people who test for hours outside of their actual playtime
oof
^
like you don't know enemy multis
u don't know gun damage
u don't know enemy health
u know nothing
the thing you're listing are all the things you can rougly estimate from just experience
there's some things that are truly hidden knowledge
i mean
but i don't feel like gtfo really requires anything like that to beat
U can't tell how much multi giants have
but i'd say it's in the realm of perfectly doable with reasonable amount of effort. although my definition of reasonable is you actually being invested and not just "chill for a couple of hours every weekend after work"
which you may as well call unreasonable if we're talking player statistics :P
anyway
e2 solo is perfectly doable
just grind for 200 hours for a perfect seed and good play !
have you seen trackmania reckords with grinds for over 500 hrs 
but this is definitely close to unreasonable just for 1 thing
the whole game tho?
i think that's a lil diff
point is
record grinding is also entirely different from the game itself in this way
^
^
if it was like on a scale of easy -> hard, i think that's about where i'd put it
Max Easy Max Hard
|---------------------------------------------|
^ gtfo (w/help)|
|
gtfo (w/o help)
(this isn't based on the amount of games but on their relative difficulty since there's way more easy games than hard)
idk who else wants
there's been like 4 more ppl
and now nobody is answering :d
@placid marten are you playing?
@ancient charm ?
I could
He's watching bread stream
I dont have to tho
:d
Most players are probably better than me
same
Ur definitely better than me sky
considering you have the untoucher of grass role, i'd say most gtfo players are actually worse lol
nah I'm washed
well, most gtfo players quit before they full clear the game, just like gamblers quit before they win big
Tbf I did get a sub 20 with chill zeph adn duck
But I got the role playing with chill ray and gerz
Totally carried, I didnt even play that well
omg he said it
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i would but 1. its too late for me 2. id just friendly fire you ๐
i am too cooked team
idk after the steam crash i was playing so bad
cant say i was playing great either
idk i just hate dying 2 surge and we died there thrice, like thas crazy
our pace was fine most of da time as well, just like only a lil slow
idk i have 2 much skill issue ig
for me it's definetly an i'm too old to run for more than an hour and a half
after that i just play bad lmao
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how do i unskillissue myself
Did chill die
nobody was on
Im around to do some for fun rn if we can get 4 but idk
im not doin anything else I just didnt want to sit around for ppl doing nothing
i could've done 1 or 2 runs but body sore and it's late so rest takes precedent
tomorrow, i promise
as in no split = resident sleeper?
Im down
need like 20
I will join after I do a few after these guys
@ancient charm
yusss
come
Noby only has a few he can do
prob chill if hes down
are u two duo'd? i dont wanna split u guys up if thats the case
Nah
@glass cradle @oblique lotus https://discord.gg/aRkEHWaJ
waiting for an opening
"You got us a D key by stroking it, keep doing that" - Chill Dude
LOL
mods can we pin this
HEL Auto Stroker
i feel like this is one of those where even with context its wack xd
is a run valid if one of the players are vpn to brazil
the Prisoners can get a bit freaky in KDS Deep...
any early cell skippers?
im down
works for me
i could hop on for some runs but gotta grab breakfast n shit
If anyone goes for a cellskip later this day then count me in.
ill join in a bit
aight
any pingers
pinger running soon?
running from now onwards
I'm running in like 6 hours
^ im in 6 hours from now too unless im too tired and crash in bed
what if you crash in my bed
what if I crash out
buy me a flight to italy and back and ill consider it, just for you
Any teamkillers pingers?
just did chaos strat
what the fuck is chaos strat
one person on charger zone goes down and tank reroutes to cell walkers
oh
but we got the run so idk it worked ๐คท
Oh so it wasn't playing slots?
wish it was
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i think chaos strat needs a bit more going on other than just tank rerouting
hmm
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gotta trigger a certain amount of scouts earlier in the level
yeah nah i think scouts were pretty clearn iirc
sky strat almost sounds like something chaotic
place 3 mines for chill strat
lose them all
and bunker down on D to kill mom room
How about 5+ :^ )
always works
what if u just giant kite the whole level
so u never care about hybrids/smalls
so u just pull 4 scouts and just snipe hybrids
oh
damn game would be so much better without team scans...
u can just let one person giant kite !
game would be so cool
can we start choosing the next speed comp already
so we start a discussion before the game dies when this comp ends
occlusion speedrun
ive put out the idea of R6 story%
But theres also:
R5C2 (main or PE)
R5D2
R6C2 (main or sec)
R6D1
R6D2
R7C2(main or PE)
R8C2
bruh r6c2 glitched runs whould be funny AF
glitched is not a good category to run
Just saying , that map whould be funny to run like that
trying to remember what glitches there are that're funny there
not rly ngl
there's the cheese spot for the scan, but that's made redundant by door bug earlier in the level
there's clipping into bulkhead key zone to wake it up but that's big time loss
Well if you door bug all of it then yeah it will lose the fun parts
But that whould be done in any glithched run ๐ฆ
i love early drop bug into door bug woah so fun
18 second clear
looks inside: 7 min vid
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Any runners?
it's r5c2 angle prob
not necessarily, many dont use it cuz its slower
basically anything chaotic is a good choice
I couldve just had my 18 sec pov lol
basically all of the mentioned above are good runs (well unsure about R7C2 main as I havent ran it yet)
reactor skip is unironically boring on its own already
tetris gameplay on top tho
hence me arguing for R6 story%
it feels better for sure ye
no
its only ingame time (but reseting for better rng after the first level has finished is not allowed)
why tho 
do u get a penalty if anything happens
like idk host crashes or smth
hm?
I mean runs just dead then
same as normal speed
we gave a penalty to r2d2 for gtfo% reset (as its a static time loss without the reset) but typically for story% its likely just not allowed (but depends on case by case)
yeah that makes sense
1- Load times, gonna be a fair amount of time just dropping into lvl and shit.
2- More rng to deal with, and worse is that if we wanna reset it will be in the middle of the run, not the start.
3- Multiple lvls for a speedruncomp will just mean each lvl will be piss ez
and i dont rlly feel like its gonna be much fun for me, i prefer when there is a challenge.
Im not rlly looking for running simulator here
^
Iโm guessing the R6D2 selection is Main Only?
secondary route could be interesting
main is fun
we know that
but we would need to try routing and running secondary to see if it is a good run
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I mean... eh? its 4 generally quick to load levels
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rng is honestly quite low (R6D1 has basically 0, R6C1 is low, R6B1 is low, R6A1 is the only real rng (and its only 1 of the 2 key zones which has legit bad spawns)
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people underestimate full sending levels ngl
R5E1 is played way safer (way harder base but you play around it)
but obviously personal decision
@cloud depot @fallen zealot
the uplinks themselves are just kinda ass, but iirc we theorized a route
that legit takes a minute all things combined
it takes the same amount as any other speedrun to load a level??
its multiple levels
less since all of those are pretty small
so?
if u drop into r5e1 4 times it is the same as r6 story%
the only difference might be the initial loading of each level
that
is
why I put
it
up
compare story% r6 to r7
R7 has R7A1 (worse than R6A1)
R7B1 (yikes collection case and scans too)
R7C1 (alright)
R7D1 (holy other of rng)
R7D2 (I LOVE GAMBLING)
a1 heavy rng, b1 heavy rng, c1 mental rng, d1 uwu
how long is it gonna take for them to figure out most speedruns in this game arent going to be interesting to most ppl
ggs then it's joever
R5 D2 would be interesting
I wouldnt mind r5d2, figuring out the times for it will probably suck
we could just take a look at current R5D2 run realistically no?
at least for the faster time I guess
also chill you back from the dead rested up?
yea I got 7 hours and didnt end up skipping class
I think it can be beaten by a lot no?
banger
r5d2 sick level
the part I think is hard is finding a balance in the time of not requiring first term for code 1 but still trying to force 1 cycle on code 2
definetly can be improved a good bit
what do u roll for r5d2 again
I think you kinda have to require first term in a way (or rather look at it with that in mind since you can also optimize start more)
is it just key
1st term for 1st code is a noticeable time diff
cell zone also differs a bit but isnt the end of the world
other than that just the scans for the mega big scan
ending is rly cool
yea cell zone is negligible, have the cells been mapped for it before?
unlikely
hitting both would go hard
but kenny likely would
hitting both is probably fucked tho
unless you get like
god stealth path and just have 1 person go for 3
how bad is 1 cycling 2nd code
never one cycled 2nd code
and someone to get to code 3 door
for the fast repeat
theres a lot of things that need ppl to be far apart in a short amount of time
the strat for double 1 cycle is cool
2 in for code 2
1 plugs code
1 rushes off to code 3 (clears stealth zone already)
once code is plugged the 1 who put it in rushes to code 4 (should just barely make it when door is opening) the other 2 then plug code 3 and 4
that seems fun
beginning is also pretty decent
giant alarm can be rushed
cell zone is a tad shit
does it get sus on code 3
but I guess its where you loot
yes
you are kinda sending it into the small room
r5d2 next comp! ! !
and then hoping to get out
I wouldnt mind r5d2 being next comp but idk if the grind would end up being fun or not
I feel like the beginning could turn out a bit of a drag
yeah..
yea
yup
just to repeat
ive put out the idea of R6 story%
But theres also:
R5C2 (main or PE)
R5D2
R6C2 (main or sec)
R6D1
R6D2
R7C2(main or PE)
R8C2
yes
mm
i mean how bad of a time loss is term
up to a minute prob
no it is
it might be
it's like cell skip comp, you didnt need to reset for D key
what's the r5d2 time rn
28:10
oh hell nah
its an old time
it's defo wr angle
how about r5d1 100% speedrun
soy
can we ban this guy?
^
yes
soy can we get a FAT medi
insane callouts
was playing before and called everything bigger than a 5 FAT
based
but yea id have to rewatch R5D2 to give an accurate time estimate
its nice to know in advance what soy is thinking for comp so we can do some research on times
but like. theres other good and fun options aside from that (with less rng)
I mean its heavily influenced by speed community
I was trolling the votes but wouldve voted for R5E1 if it came close
without something to look forward to
like I was gonna be pissed if r5e1 didnt win this one lol
no
FUCK no
2e1 angle maybe
ok
so 1st to 2nd term is at minimum a 15 second time loss
?????
sus
more likely 20-25
when have i said this
why everyone hate my idea๐ค
zed explain why your funnel strat on hub alarm
is better than anything else
youre on trial rn
nah
the court is in session
like having scatters on clients is better if you're 4 in for tank zone
but it doesn't really matter
honestly
i like how you said this but you're still trying to explain
so you're guilty then
every team is running 3 scatter anyways
they can play far more aggro on bbcs
and chargers
i am definitely not saying this so our team makes me go into charger zone so i can bust
ok
no but srsly there is a real argument for host scatter inside
it can potentially do better in a 4 man team, 2 man idk
(inside charger zone obv)
the real argument is they should be culling charger zone the entire time instead of shooting scatter
thoughts?
host banished to cell zone
ok adding RNG differences:
R6 story% (30-60 seconds) - key for R6A1 most of this
R5C2(30-60 seconds) - 2 cell zone spawns
R5D2 (15-45 seconds) - 1st code term and cell zone side
R6C2 (15 seconds) - bulkhead key
R6D1 (none)
R6D2 (20 seconds) - bulkhead key
R7C2 (none)
R8C2 (10 seconds) - 1 cell spawn
(obviously all have scan rng and the likes)
does it really matter if 4 people are in the room?
depends on if you have pingers or not
with 4 last time i did it feels like u can just walk in the room and shoot
and 1 person can even rush scan
pingers ! !
oh btw chill you down to cell skip in the next few hours?
how about unpinged bbc punch ur face when u rush the scan
ur fault
yo can i join in too? need practice
I actually thanked a bbc last night
cuz it ACTUALLY played foot steps around a corner
I was so proud of him
@covert cypress can we get you to host? (im not just asking so I can get tgb away from the charger zone)
bbcs making sounds?
unheard of
man it still upsets me that i died 3 fucking times to bbcs just not making any queue sounds last sesh i played
chat who is better host, me or gerz
beth
beth
tebh
that one
that one too
LOL
ok i am contacting my landlord right now
old tgb host?
buying more ethernets
boutta have so many cables plugged into my pc
old tgb host was cracked
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mb ig
okay bbc enjoyer
nobody ever complains about my host
that is correct
I complain about your ping
except ray and chill cause they cant handle a little bit of ping
the host is fine
gonna message my landlord at midnight "buy better internet"
what's the ping?
surely he wont mind
was it 150 or smth
160 i suppose
150 ish
it's good because beth is a pinger
meanwhile frosty being used to 300
listen
but frosty plays with 300 on every game
this is enough ping to feel like the game is working properly
frosty is young and fresh
but still get unfairly tongued by everything
chill is old and slow
he can deal with it
same with ray
so I cant gauge what I should be doing or not
isn't chill like 35 and frosty 12
yeah
ANY RUNNERS?
exactly
frosty is 4
Sound accurate
that was the conclusion of last night
well frosty is 9, 4, 1
we went from 12 to 4
im not really sure where it ended
interesting
the funniest shit is when i see frosty dodge a lick properly on my screen and then somehow still gets licked... like dude straight up was not in the hitbox for host and still got hit
not sure what i missed
the 9 call was insane
damn
I have it in recording
I could look for it
its the viewers job to clip
frosty clipped me blackhopping a cell to my death
i wasn't there 
deserved for bhopping
chicken jockey
jockey chiken
Lava up top
- im gonna get cooked for my statement above
so glad they did water bucket clutch
thanks to frosty explaining
wait
lava
what
drunk r5e1 speeds????
sounds like i missed a fun time
la la la lava
What do I do with 1 scout
Theres 2 in the back
0 scouts
Depending on when I get home from tn I may be down for some drunk speeds
fuck i wanna drink and speed
just put the 6 giants in the bag
drunken speeds
r5e1 bingo
can we think of squares
we have like 10 squares
chicken jockey should be a square
no ammopacks first 4 areas of hub zone
chicken jockey is fire
die to surge cause no one scatter snatcher
tank trap is still my favorite
I Fucking love tank trap
Wait whats tank trap
tank in front of a door
when a tank is in front of A
it's a trap
LOL
they always die
I see
the sexy tank in a standing there waiting u to bite the bait
its RIGHT there
and die
ITS RIGHT THERE 
its a trap cause you can't escape it
you're a scattergun player
you have no brain
it's so sexy and enticing
do u think J pull is a worth square
yes
yes
or double scout B
I love me some chill getting double licked through a closing door
double scout B probs cause it's rare
misread logs maybe?
dude that happened THREE FUCKING TIMES
not every square should be easy
LMAO
LOL
I DIED IN SPITTER ZONE THROUG THE DOOR
lmaoo
death by spitters is a square
listen me complaining about the ping is justified
must be
L key is prob also a square
idk about other squares
or unusual key
okay i gotta watch the vods
its actually unreal how much better charger zone was after my swap to sawed off btw
hel shotty into charger zone is so ass 
honestly: 51, 41 key combo should be a square
about this frosty aging down bs
die to unpinged enemy
100%
WHAT THE FUCK IM 9?
lmaoo
honestly should
if you want sure
D key
i'd be down to get ideas for squares
I have nothing to drink but it would be funny for chat
R5E1 deranged route: take cell from Z534 and plug it in hub gen as usual for cell skip, but then take the 2nd cell from Z542 and take that one back to Z529 gen before going into Z543
I just gotta finish my bingo board for the lockout bingo tournament finals tmrw real quick
do we get 2 groups to speed simultaneously and do the most out of the blue bingo race?
whoa
is pubdown a square
OH SHIT THOSE ARE TMRW
insane tgb idea
i forgor
yes
too common
im again gonna hit like 8 hours of gtfo per day
well
or wait
pingers is free square
no ping in mom room
ye
Yea no ping in mom room
any pingers
any pingers
ANY pingers
ya
(i read that in chills voice)
i could be ur pinger
oh
^

sus
PINGERS
triple scout in hub
I think I did like 11 yesterday
might be a square
can you even get 3 scouts in one area?
yea
my steam hours are like
i've seen in B
how much is it
only 82
LOL
actually ya you are right, i had one run with 3 scouts B
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just remembered
open ur profile
wtf.
hover gtfo on the home page
uh oh
i dont wanna say it
120
??????????????
wait
What
do you leave the game open constantly??
no its not possible
I was gonna say theres no way
i'm sure it's counting other apps
im at a normal 48.5
its last 2 weeks so thats 20 hours a day
I can see stars from friend list
hover it on your library home page
oh yea
it shows last 2 weeks and total
i'm at 88
25
man i'm not even playing the game wtf
feelsgood
where does it show last 2 weeks?
go to library home page
am I tripping or u have extra space in ur name
she does
they do
its been there for ages yes
soy has been doing that
44
Idk how this hover works
sus
I prob have like 20 tho
hange has 101
im cooked
W
god damn
apparently i have 50.2 hours on gtfo last 2 weeks but only 48.5 on recent activity past 2 weeks
i feel so good having not played much gtfo
thas crazy
im free
i'll be there when this comp ends
chad said the same
no rason to play gtfo anymore
we're losing people
no samdown no comp
jish is already gone
everyones gonna be gone
it's like
Ok 26.7
the moment u give urself a week break
it's been a nice goodbye team
need doom dark ages to come out
dead server again
@covert cypress so you joining in like half an hour right
?
its kind of so true
nickle took a break for sometime
he just never plays anymore
im supposed to be playing dbd at some point and apparently it was meant to be in an hour or 2
so probably not
oh no
after this comp i feel like normal gameplay is not interesting anymore
i can !
idk if ill stream dbd
i can !

ill think abt it
now you can feel how weve felt for like a year
i would probably be asleep but i'd watch dbd
you cursed us!!
have you realized most modded content is shit yet too and theres actually nothing left to do?
its rly great
r9 when
which modded rundowns have you played?
pmuch everything
anything with new monsters/insane guns doesn't feel right
^
^
^
team I need 1 more square for tmrw
new monsters would be good
fuck
wasn't a charger
new monsters need to be done right because of client stuff
charger reskin nr 20234
get a world record
im mainly interested in vanilla style modded rundowns at this point
yee
thats all ive got left after this
although if someone asked me to do gtfo 100% again i wouldnt decline
double hit on two different type enemies
get shot by the bot makes a return surely
I still need to try r6 legacy but I dont think its gonna be as good as ppl say
i wouldnt dare
I have a feeling standards have changed
like 100%
or 100% 100%
do you like reactors?
I do
do you still like reactors after having done 5 of em in a row
o h g o d that would be such a time commitment
do you STILL like them after another 5
like what
i meant 100%
that would be so fucked
a week of full on gtfo 8 hours per day?
its got long levels but i think design and guns are just really fun
oh wait, that's just my avg week nvm
I wish all achievements couldve been a category
ok everyone
rundown alpha to R8
im taking bingo fields for the r5e1 bingo
pingers
any
would crashout be a good square
bbc got host culled
you do not want me to spread the stat again
tank trap right?
whats the context gonna be for this
actual runs?
or
cuz a lot of the funny ones dont rly happen in actual runs
square idea: momma had 3 giants on defense duty
square idea: first 4 areas of hub zone no ammo
mix of pub lobbies and actual runs
first one is fine
square idea: snatcher snatched someone off surge
no
?
wtf is batman and why is it a 3 layered story
square idea: HAR got picked unironically