#gtfo-speed-running

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fallen zealot
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i go shower quick @odd delta

urban nest
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or mining door in reactor

placid marten
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Fully unhittable spots arent allowed

placid marten
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Thats fine

cloud depot
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huh rlly?

urban nest
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ig it's just a shoot angle

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in dim

cloud depot
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dont think ive had that happen ever

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crazy

urban nest
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kek

odd delta
urban nest
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i mean

cloud depot
glass cradle
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There's a kite for dim

urban nest
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if u get ammo

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yeah

urban nest
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i just need to grab am from cell room

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we had too much extra

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anw

fallen zealot
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@oblique lotus you free?

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
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i got money

oblique lotus
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pay me 10 bucks for next month gfn

fallen zealot
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im rich

oblique lotus
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im eating rn

fallen zealot
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lf1 cell skipper

cloud depot
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can join in a sec

oblique lotus
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@cloud depot

fallen zealot
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aight

cloud depot
fallen zealot
odd delta
glass cradle
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Gl guys

fallen zealot
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we've been blessed by chill's luck

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time to get 0 ammo throughout hub

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and only front spawns

glass cradle
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So true

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I curse ur cell 5 ammo to be in back of D

odd delta
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key is top J in smash lock box
right next to 2 giants and 1 small
forced to pull J

urban nest
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should've found lockies !

odd delta
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nah i was physically blocked from the box

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was key 44

rustic bridge
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scatter moment

fallen zealot
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silent shoot the lock + giants

odd delta
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i also threw a run by reverse silent shooting to wake a scout

fallen zealot
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he did

rustic bridge
rustic bridge
odd delta
rustic bridge
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ah

odd delta
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it was a "scout in deepest B wake into forwardspawn scout wave wakes 2nd scout wave forward into wake 3rd scout by reverse silent shot" type of hub

rustic bridge
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at least you didnt have 3 scoouts in B with 2 in the back

odd delta
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fair

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it was just unfortunate because i had like 80/80 on guns so i could have pushed really hard but just had to kill 2 scout waves instead

cloud depot
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or actually was it someone else

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i forgor

warm oak
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anyone up for sub 20?

oblique lotus
warm oak
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i haven't finished it, need some tips

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
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sub 20 my dog

warm oak
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i have my own

warm oak
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ping me when fog speedruns back to lobby

jade quest
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LF2 r5e1 cell skippas, any takers? (trying for sub 20 but I need a warmup first)

glass cradle
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who up running they r5e1

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its that time of day again

urban nest
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could

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not for long tho

hollow aurora
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perchance i could after this r3d1 run

glass cradle
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need 1 mo

warm oak
glass cradle
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we assemblin a diff group

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I think

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@junior tartan u on?

junior tartan
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yes

glass cradle
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lesgo

junior tartan
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should have message didnt see it pop up would have replied instantly

glass cradle
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all g

hollow aurora
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@jade quest sry, not gonna be able to run it, likely to dc mid run

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My internet tweaking rn

jade quest
mellow pike
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LFG I can fill

placid marten
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Is this just chills new lfg channel :^ )

urban nest
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yes !!

rustic bridge
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it could be yours as well

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one of us

placid marten
rustic bridge
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WHAT

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i see no dms

placid marten
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it was in god damn vc

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on wednesday

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(Thursday for you)

rustic bridge
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oh rip

lilac dust
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skill skippers

warm oak
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anyone knows some kind of convenient piece of text that separates logs from different runs. like some kind of initialization thing that gets added when you drop into the mission?

drifting citrus
warm oak
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logs with keys / cells / etc

candid jackal
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i guess a marker for where one run ends and the next one begins?

warm oak
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there should be some text indicating mission drop

old trench
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There is

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let me show you example

candid jackal
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if it's about updating the log as you continually drop and reset

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notepad++ can do that

warm oak
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i'm making a small cli tool to do that automatically

drifting citrus
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The start of a run line is:
ReadyToStartLevel TO: InLevel

The end line of a run is:
InLevel TO: ExpeditionSuccess

candid jackal
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you can probably find a line that rambles on about player was in lobby

warm oak
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i don't use notepad of any kind

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terminally ill with vim disease unfort

old trench
warm oak
old trench
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DropServerManager blocks also work to separate runs]

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(as in with generation)

warm oak
drifting citrus
old trench
warm oak
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isn't there something that runs once on drop

warm oak
drifting citrus
warm oak
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ah

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damn

drifting citrus
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code should be quite straight forward even if it is in rust

warm oak
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yikes, rust

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yeah, all good

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i know how to read rust

old trench
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-# you don't know how to read tgb code tho

drifting citrus
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-# good cause i am refactoring it again

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-# so it is less readable

old trench
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You mean you finally doing the first real refactor

drifting citrus
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no

old trench
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Previous one doesnt count

candid jackal
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words were never meant to be used for these purposes, computer science is heresy and disease

old trench
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?!??

drifting citrus
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i wanna optimize the tokenizer slightly since each token is 40 fuckin bytes

old trench
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But there is a purpose behind those words lmao

drifting citrus
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wait

old trench
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40 bytes for a single token

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lmao

drifting citrus
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well tbf this is cause i literally hold an entire string in an enum

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and yes they can be removed

old trench
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string is variable length

candid jackal
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computer science is not real

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it's psychotic

drifting citrus
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i just did not

candid jackal
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hallucinations

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delusions

drifting citrus
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bigger than a bbc co

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-# soy i will not be banned but i will drop the copypasta one day

old trench
drifting citrus
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...and this proves that LGTuner is NP-complete

old trench
warm oak
placid marten
warm oak
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read below

old trench
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he's doing CLI tool for himself

warm oak
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for reading logs

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ye

urban nest
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u have a logger

warm oak
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wait, actually

placid marten
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d4rkevblank
But like, isnt there tools already?

urban nest
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if u don't want to read from notepad

old trench
warm oak
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there is one in python that i don't care about (i'd rather have a single executable)

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and i'm not sure

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tgb

drifting citrus
old trench
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Python code is atrocious

warm oak
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is your logger still only for r3d1?

drifting citrus
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and most modded levels

warm oak
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oh, nvm

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then i should've probably used that

drifting citrus
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lmao

warm oak
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but i already made mine for r5e1

urban nest
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average

warm oak
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so whatever

drifting citrus
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tho i do wanna point out: mine does not work on linux

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and the rendering on it can be shit

old trench
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-# lmao

warm oak
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i'm not on linux thankfully

drifting citrus
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I BLAME FUCKING EGUI

urban nest
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why would u run gtfo on linux

warm oak
drifting citrus
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i shat on swing in the past

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but holy shit it is miles above any rust gui library

lilac dust
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any ckip sellers?

old trench
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no wonder

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Any rust gui is still in infancy

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Even druid

warm oak
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but this is very wip and not certain and i have another thing i need to do first

old trench
candid jackal
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wardenmapper-esque

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but wardenmapper is very limited in the levels it covers

drifting citrus
candid jackal
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i guess there's a bit of seedindexeroverlay somewhere in there

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god i love these random fucking programs that nobody but a small section of speedrunners know about

drifting citrus
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unless someone is willing to pay some money for a good AI to convert lockers and boxes from images to json coords I am just not gonna even try to start doing it manually

warm oak
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or

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since lockers are orange

candid jackal
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look at what wardenmapper does and see if that's helpful?

warm oak
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make an ml to convert those orange bits into positions

old trench
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not rly

drifting citrus
old trench
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unless it can be embedded into the overlay window

candid jackal
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excellent

old trench
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as in image

drifting citrus
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I was thinking of just feeding each image one by one to an AI to get me the positions automatically

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literally I only see that as even reasonably viable

old trench
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Why you need AI

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Why everything has to be AI

warm oak
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cuz ai will do it faster

old trench
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it's fucking opencv task

drifting citrus
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Because you either do it manually or with AI

old trench
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The fuck you mean AI will do it faster

drifting citrus
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what

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it is not just an opencv task maid

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because you have to fill that gap with something

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on the image

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for each locker

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so u can show an image that doesn't have 1000 black holes in the middle of it

old trench
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It's 2 mins to write a 10 line script for opencv which has color median in it's API

drifting citrus
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where past boxes were

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maid

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that's just getting the positions

old trench
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?!?!?!?

candid jackal
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this is a great watch, please continue

drifting citrus
old trench
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nah you can do that

drifting citrus
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the idea is I dont wanna drop into EVERY single level in gtfo just to then take 4k screenshots of levels

old trench
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You have less frames

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Image more stable

drifting citrus
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getting the positions is also quite annoying to do btw because some fucking maps have lockers that are merged together

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lockers that have numbers on top of them

warm oak
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this is supposed to be a 1 time thing since levels are preset, right?

drifting citrus
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lockers that have ^ or v under them

drifting citrus
warm oak
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i don't see a reason why you'd need to make a script

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open cv or ai - the result is pretty much the same. you get your positions in some kind of data structure

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and then you just hard code this data onto the levels you need

drifting citrus
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manually doing it means doing it like 83*3 times

warm oak
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automatically adding new levels would be nice ofc

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but most definitely unnecessary

drifting citrus
warm oak
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gtfo levels don't get created that fast

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at least to my knowledge*

drifting citrus
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it's literally just annoying

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manually it takes maybe like 10 hours at least

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just thinking about dropping into levels already makes me fkin suffer

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loading up zones, seeing which u need, editing those screenshots

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then inputting the data into the app would be

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AHHHHH

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I genuienly think the biggest thing for this community would be putting all the information we have and all the tools in a single place

old trench
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Yes

drifting citrus
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so people dont have to scower the gtfo reddit, steampage, discord, different youtubers

misty veldt
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GTFO reddit is....

old trench
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It's okay

drifting citrus
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just to get the stuff that we in the knowhow already know as the bare minimum to speedrun gtfo

old trench
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Eva, Ray, true are active there

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Always

warm oak
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and maybe guides?

misty veldt
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there's quite a bit of misinfo abound with GTFO, considering how difficult the game is on the average scale for newcomers and the myriad of bugs when speedrunning or even casual play

warm oak
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like, general guides

old trench
warm oak
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cuz i swear, dunning kruger effect is off the charts on most platforms

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idk about gtfo, but there's this other small indie game called Noita and the reddit for it has like 1 correct sentence in the comments under a question maybe once or twice a month

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the rest of the time it's just people who've never read a single line of code spouting bs

drifting citrus
old trench
placid marten
drifting citrus
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-# did u know that in terms of human sleeper breeding the big charger is the most compatible sleeper for human [banned by soy]

warm oak
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Noita server does in fact have a role for that (sorta)

old trench
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-# infection incident with lorefrostty

drifting citrus
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Fun fact: I heard today on a gtfo stream Hammer charge is considerably slower than spear

warm oak
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that's because spear is the best melee in the game :clueless:

drifting citrus
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I agree because BBCs enjoy spears in their ass the most

delicate flare
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its so weird that everyone says the hammer chargers slower there must be something to it

drifting citrus
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maybe they are all from a different dimension where hammer is truly slower charge than spear

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they just got sent here by the MWP and put into an HSU to forget those memories of the MWP

warm oak
drifting citrus
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TryGetExistingGenericFunctionDistributionForSession this beauty grabs the id of the key that is actually used in speeds

warm oak
drifting citrus
warm oak
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i don't care about that since i can look for the key later

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i just want to have a definitive starting point from which i start looking for things

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it's possible to just hard code the amount of keys for every level and look for the bottom n matches (that's what i did at first)

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but like...

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no

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oh, wait

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CKID is also called for each key?

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fuck

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well, that doesn't work then

old trench
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YOu can look for keys in generation batch

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Well It's called Distribution Batch but you get the point

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It's always gonna be there

warm oak
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right?

old trench
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Yes

warm oak
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perfect

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that's all i needed

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thx

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and it runs before key locker locations, nice

old trench
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I mean you can even use my logger for r5e1

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cause r5e1 only has keys

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might be more comprehensible than tgb's code

drifting citrus
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all due respect: you cannot ever say a regex is more comprehensible than anything

old trench
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lmao

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That's a skill issue tbh

candid jackal
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just get married already ffs

misty veldt
warm oak
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Creating regex and thinking it was the right decision was the biggest skill issue

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Although tbf, it's fine for like simple lookups

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Whoever makes like a 500 char regex for some sophisticated data processing - that person deserves to go to prison, for sure

warm oak
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Good idea, ngl

misty veldt
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yes

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add powershell commands too while I'm at it

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navigate the correct directories to download a file

drifting citrus
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i swear i had a nightmare once that gtfo terminals used regex for list

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ls

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cd uwu

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ls

old trench
drifting citrus
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cd oniichan

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ls

warm oak
drifting citrus
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cd bbc-goes-hard

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ls

old trench
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or you can just fucking use grep

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which uses regex to find content in files

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lmao

warm oak
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rg > grep

old trench
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I know

drifting citrus
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id kms

warm oak
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Install fzf on the terminal

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List goes out of the window

misty veldt
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I've got another amazing idea

warm oak
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You can now mistype and still get a match

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๐Ÿ˜Ž

misty veldt
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all reactor codes are now random 8 character strings

drifting citrus
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what if

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instead

old trench
drifting citrus
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what if

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i type on term

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sudo rm -rf

warm oak
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Gtfo crashes

old trench
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you forgot --no-preserve-root

drifting citrus
old trench
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Average regular pub IS the failsafe

misty veldt
old trench
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lmao

#
  • the old way
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new archlinux bootloader has so much shit streamlined that it's literally just pressing up down arrows and Y and enter and you have arch installed

misty veldt
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yep specifically the old way gotta make sure you know your OS

oblique lotus
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any skip celler?

lilac dust
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any shell flippers?

delicate flare
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any egg clickers?

fallen zealot
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@odd delta @cloud depot run again with duck tonight?

lilac dust
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any smell stinkers?

cloud depot
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have 2 get up a bit early tommorrow

warm oak
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anyone else wanna cell skip today?

lilac dust
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โœ‹

fallen zealot
odd delta
fallen zealot
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like

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2 hours from now?

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im gonna play a bit with remmy then cs

odd delta
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alr

glass cradle
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im doing fucking HOMEWORK GUH

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addiction is not a joke people

warm oak
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gtfo > hw

fallen zealot
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average chill key 51 moment

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L

glass cradle
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so

odd delta
fallen zealot
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yeah i kind of have been ruinin my sleep for gtfo this week

warm oak
misty veldt
glass cradle
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I need MORE

warm oak
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i'm assuming key names are irrelevant for speedrunning since you can just see the locker map, right?

fallen zealot
#

wym

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calling people key 51 is peak

warm oak
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PING KEY_BLACK_1 -T

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is that right?

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gonna do that on my next cell skip attempt

warm oak
lilac dust
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not that I'm aware of

warm oak
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i'm gonna fucking die, this is my last weekend i can play

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why is everyone busy ๐Ÿ˜ญ

errant pier
delicate flare
errant pier
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

mellow pike
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any runners?

oblique lotus
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lf cs group

viral dagger
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+1

mellow pike
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+2

warm oak
mellow pike
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i think youre the 4th

warm oak
mellow pike
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im down whenver

warm oak
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same

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@oblique lotus where u at

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you were looking for a team

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the team is here

oblique lotus
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cant play rn, watching nba

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womp womp

warm oak
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bruh

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what a scammer

mellow pike
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im down whenever

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just ping me

oblique lotus
warm oak
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i was in a run at the time (

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how much longer is nba gonna last?

oblique lotus
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dunno, its alr 1am for me, prob wont able to stay up later, exam next week

warm oak
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unfort

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@viral dagger are you at least down whenever, or are you also out?

viral dagger
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i am around

warm oak
fallen zealot
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im taking a break today

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too much cell skipping

rustic bridge
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wrong

glass cradle
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guys I Finished my homework...

mellow pike
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no... way...

odd delta
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we are so back is it time

glass cradle
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NEED 1 MO

rustic bridge
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imma eat

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better open up for me when i get back

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im over here skipping my cell i got hands on my cell im over here straight skipping my shit, im fast as fuck man im a skipper for real

wind cliff
rustic bridge
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love and affection skip

urban nest
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โœŠ

glass cradle
mellow pike
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cell skipping again?

jade quest
lilac dust
fallen zealot
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anyone need pingers for cs?

cloud depot
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im always down for csing

lilac dust
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I can be the skipper to your cell

paper arch
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bet

fallen zealot
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please skip my cell

rustic bridge
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im over here skipping my cell i got hands on my cell im over here straight skipping my shit, im fast as fuck man im a skipper for real

lilac dust
rustic bridge
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Have some respect for a skipper like me

lilac dust
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you're not a skipper

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you're a private

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and your name is parts

old trench
fallen zealot
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any early cell skipers

cloud depot
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i can in like ~10 mins

paper arch
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I'm up

lilac dust
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I'm sideways

fallen zealot
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lemme ask nicklefart but i doubt he wants to speedrun

lilac dust
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tickleshart

cloud depot
fallen zealot
fallen zealot
cloud depot
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damn he speed

lilac dust
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k nvm then

oblique lotus
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@odd delta @cloud depot u wanna cs today?

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prob 30min later

odd delta
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ill maybe need an hour

oblique lotus
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yeah shore

cloud depot
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1hour works for me

lilac dust
old trench
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@drifting citrus

lilac dust
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any cellers

fallen zealot
oblique lotus
fallen zealot
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give me one run time

oblique lotus
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still eating dinner

fallen zealot
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we just dropped

lilac dust
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can I join or are the spots reserved?

warm oak
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same question

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although it seems like there's a full team alrd

odd delta
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ill be running late someone can steal my slot

lilac dust
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I just noticed wtf happened to my name

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someone removed an s pepethink

lilac dust
proven canyon
cloud depot
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@oblique lotus pong me when everyone is up

lilac dust
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billions must sleep...

oblique lotus
proven canyon
lilac dust
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when we got a team ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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idk man

proven canyon
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lol

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ill ask at a later date

lilac dust
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been wanting to join cell skip these past couple days but people usually either are full or do it at a time when I'm already asleep

proven canyon
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prolly thursday/friday (i have holiday yippie)

odd delta
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when are you heading to sleep

oblique lotus
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u played until 9

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with chill

proven canyon
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9 isnt that bad?

odd delta
oblique lotus
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am

proven canyon
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nvm.

fallen zealot
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im dying here

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
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gimme spot

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wait

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where is zed

odd delta
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sweden

proven canyon
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gone, reduced to atoms

fallen zealot
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no

odd delta
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we're sams timezone

fallen zealot
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like

lilac dust
fallen zealot
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where is he in the team

proven canyon
odd delta
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not there because i ran late

oblique lotus
oblique lotus
warm oak
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i stole zed's spot

fallen zealot
warm oak
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i'm a stealer

fallen zealot
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are you gonna be there

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like

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when are you thre

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wtf

odd delta
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like 15

fallen zealot
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bro

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we can wait

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what

glass cradle
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my ass isnt getting on for another 5 hours

oblique lotus
proven canyon
fallen zealot
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5 hours

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im already asleep

glass cradle
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surely

warm oak
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am i getting kicked :d

fallen zealot
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i mean

warm oak
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give me like 1 run at least

fallen zealot
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i wanted to play withzed star and duck

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cause we progged some days ago

warm oak
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anyone else gonna be on then?

oblique lotus
lilac dust
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you've been skipped

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by cell

warm oak
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i've been skipped instead of the cell ๐Ÿ˜”

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i thought i was a skipper, but i got skipped instead

pine shoal
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Maybe the real cell skip was the friends we lost along the way

fallen zealot
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i loveskipping people's cells

lilac dust
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skipping the cell saga in dragonball

warm oak
paper arch
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who is chill and what is the strat

warm oak
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@glass cradle

glass cradle
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what is taht ping

warm oak
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dw about it

glass cradle
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my ip is being dropped

warm oak
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escape char fail

pine shoal
fallen zealot
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bro's getting doxed

lilac dust
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obviously

paper arch
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I mean

lilac dust
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the strat is having chill on your team

paper arch
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I understand now

fallen zealot
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just pay chill your cell skip tax

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and he'll chill your runs

lilac dust
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sorry I'm already paying my taxes in REPO

warm oak
spark socket
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LFG R5E1 no cell skip

paper arch
fallen zealot
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wait how do you know which door they go to?

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what if they go bottom like does foam do both doors?

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isnt' that a waste?

lilac dust
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they just go for the left door

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oh that

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thought you meant first door

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yeah they can go to the bottom door too

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you just mine and foam that one too ig

hollow scroll
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I need r5e1 cs carry

cloud depot
fallen zealot
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there's probably a way to know which door they go to idk

lilac dust
#

most of they time they just stack up on the left one

lilac dust
warm oak
covert cypress
warm oak
#

so you just foam and mine that

fallen zealot
#

don't touch hani he'll turn into a monster and try to eat you

warm oak
#

with 3 mines for giants

lilac dust
warm oak
#

2 high, 1 low for babies

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or smth like that

fallen zealot
warm oak
#

it might be 3 high and 1 low

hollow scroll
paper arch
lilac dust
#

so I'll play through-

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
#

lf heart skippers

#

need heart attack

paper arch
#

I will attack your heart

lilac dust
#

I will surgically remove your heart and sell it on the black market for fent money

fallen zealot
#

Heart ๐Ÿ”ซ

paper arch
warm oak
#

is there gonna be a 2nd cs lobby tonight?

urban nest
#

no

glass cradle
#

much later

lilac dust
#

I'm bed skipping

urban nest
#

chill is being responsible

glass cradle
#

for once

oblique lotus
#

2 back to back sub 22, we're so back, but died too much for sub 20

old trench
fallen zealot
#

we fucking did it

odd delta
#

we were locked the fuck in

jade quest
warm oak
#

we need 1 more cs-er, otherwise this lobby will turn into a graveyard

fallen zealot
#

I think all EU cellskippers went to bed

odd delta
#

naw

fallen zealot
#

you'd have to wait for american ones

odd delta
#

am up but idk im taking a break after r3d1ing just now

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
#

aussie don't do random cs pubs we all know it

fallen zealot
#

absolute addict

odd delta
#

i was warming down

#

now im outside again prepping for chills lobby to go up

glass cradle
#

theres always amore r5e1 to play

spark socket
#

touching grass

fallen zealot
#

man I wish I could stay up for chills lobby

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
#

why time zones suck

glass cradle
#

I was gonna play earlier today then mfs scheduled some shit at a terrible time so I ended up doing other shit while waiting

old trench
oblique lotus
#

just immigrate to na, problem solved

fallen zealot
#

responsibilities

fallen zealot
oblique lotus
#

my sleep schedule is fucked after start doing cs

fallen zealot
#

I think me duck and zed have destroyed our sleep schedule with this comp

odd delta
#

"emigrate to na"

oblique lotus
#

i usually get up at 8 but now i sleep at 8

urban nest
#

๐Ÿ‘€

odd delta
#

just be like me and have na sleep schedule anyways

fallen zealot
#

we ran till 3-4am for like 3 or 4 days

odd delta
fallen zealot
#

thank god i didn't have work this week

old trench
fallen zealot
fallen zealot
#

rest easy king we got the pub sub 20

odd delta
glass cradle
#

90 min

odd delta
#

alr

glass cradle
#

ish

odd delta
#

ty

oblique lotus
#

can i hop in pwease

urban nest
#

any pingers

old trench
#

I'm gonna jump in from Tuesday

glass cradle
#

anyone can

fallen zealot
#

any pingers

odd delta
#

sky

oblique lotus
#

any pubber pingers?

odd delta
#

any pingers became a standard comm for us

#

it's so bad

fallen zealot
#

we were saying pingers too many times

#

during the runs

#

it was cooked

urban nest
#

give it a week it'll go away

glass cradle
#

that shit was hilarious

urban nest
#

I still can't believe izack doesn't ping charger zone

glass cradle
#

you know shit is going down when the serious any pingers comm comes out

fallen zealot
#

why do you need charger zone ping

#

pub

urban nest
#

silence pub

fallen zealot
#

you don't know anything pub

oblique lotus
#

im still sad cause my gfn is so laggy so we lose like 40-50ish sec in hub zone

fallen zealot
#

go be a pinger

glass cradle
#

ive played these games before!!

fallen zealot
#

died

#

lost us 40 secs

oblique lotus
#

or else its going to be sub 19 or even 18

fallen zealot
#

and we still gamed out

urban nest
#

trust all u need is 3 back spawns

#

and 2 ammos

#

and it's a great hub

fallen zealot
#

bro I was getting all the spawns carrying cell from cell zone

#

all of them.

urban nest
#

are u host

fallen zealot
#

nope

oblique lotus
#

i am

urban nest
#

wait u were doing split??

odd delta
#

the pace was kinda crazy into hub

oblique lotus
#

yeah 1 3

fallen zealot
#

we were doing 3 1

odd delta
#

sub 12 hub open

fallen zealot
#

we drop cell in A of cell zone

odd delta
#

3-1 kinda

urban nest
#

3 1 is crazy

odd delta
#

we get cell all 4

#

but drop it very very early

urban nest
odd delta
#

and he goes back and gets it alone

placid marten
odd delta
placid marten
#

good

oblique lotus
#

on the cell room bridge iirc

fallen zealot
#

at A in cell zone, before room div

#

yeah

#

pretty much as soon as everyone catches up with cell carrier we dropped it

placid marten
#

if you play charger zone rly well you would want to drop it at the divider of A and B for cell zone

fallen zealot
#

that's what we were doing yeah

placid marten
#

(also needs a good cell walk tho)

urban nest
#

I don't know how ure not getting lower time with split honestly

fallen zealot
#

cell walk was fine I got there in time even tho they were quick

oblique lotus
#

but how do we know we'll play charger room well after we drop cell

fallen zealot
#

duck just died cause of gfn lag

#

so we did lose 40 secs

urban nest
#

it's kinda slow for split ngl

odd delta
#

team what's gfn

fallen zealot
#

idk then

odd delta
#

hub was bit slow

placid marten
#

we gotta improve our cell grab/walk times
Weve been opening hub at good pace multiple times but cells just been a bit behind (gotta recheck for some strats)

oblique lotus
odd delta
#

the push from A to C was slow

urban nest
#

none of u are pubs

#

smh

odd delta
#

and then we lost 40s from down

oblique lotus
#

bro i paid 12 bucks for gfn

#

ask nvidia

fallen zealot
#

LOL

placid marten
urban nest
#

gamba

#

GOLD GOLD GOLD

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
#

GOLD GOLD

oblique lotus
#

titan holo titan holo

old trench
#

Just don't get skill issued by charger zone

odd delta
#

the session was really fucking good we were just gaming out in general

old trench
#

Easy

odd delta
#

5 runs, 3 clears

fallen zealot
#

cell walking alone made me so nervous when I knew we were on pace

#

I was so afraid of dying lmao

urban nest
#

ngl u do 2-2 still prob

oblique lotus
#

2-2 is hel rifle grab cell ig?

fallen zealot
#

idk we've never tried 2-2

urban nest
#

hel rifle should carry cell

#

I think

#

and it's forced hot prob

fallen zealot
#

how do you do 2-2 tho, people going for charger have to be carrying ammo right

urban nest
#

i mean

#

if they're full

#

they have enough

fallen zealot
#

fair

urban nest
#

usually cell gets all waves

fallen zealot
#

I just don't know how much ammo charger is

urban nest
#

it feels like 70 both

placid marten
#

2-2 is just split or optimized cell drop for chill strat no?

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
#

we did have to chill strat

urban nest
#

no like

#

u never go in and grab cell first

#

u finish alarm and go do moms right after

misty veldt
#

what's the optimal spawn for tank in charger zone

urban nest
#

and after charger team scan u go find/grab cell

fallen zealot
#

oh right

urban nest
#

prob

fallen zealot
#

right that's 2-2

urban nest
#

or in front of A

#

it gets kinda tight since u don't really loot

#

but if u shoot all scouts it's prob fine

fallen zealot
#

yeah that's what I thought aswell

odd delta
#

i think you can chill strat and still split strat

#

kinda

glass cradle
#

that is what lukewarm is yes

fallen zealot
#

I think we got really good at the 3 1

glass cradle
#

you kill on the mine door

urban nest
#

3 1 is kinda sus

oblique lotus
#

what is super chill strat

fallen zealot
#

but

odd delta
#

the 3 1 is faster and free kinda

urban nest
#

on mom pull

fallen zealot
#

I mean if you don't 3 1 what do you do you carry cell all the way

placid marten
urban nest
fallen zealot
#

and lose like 30 secs no?

urban nest
#

kek

oblique lotus
odd delta
fallen zealot
#

I never died

oblique lotus
#

blame cell grabber

fallen zealot
#

literally

odd delta
placid marten
#

2/2 just seems faster than 3/1 unless you gamble super hard on cell carry having nothing on them at all

urban nest
#

idk 3-1 is sus

fallen zealot
#

I actually never died going back for cell

placid marten
#

cell is more likely a time gate ngl

fallen zealot
#

in any attempt

urban nest
#

point is not staying alive

placid marten
urban nest
#

point is not dropping

odd delta
oblique lotus
#

but i feel like if cell have a guy shooting waves, it can go quicker

#

no need to drop

fallen zealot
odd delta
#

if we played hub more aggro it'd be a problem likely

fallen zealot
#

it's different if hub is insane and it's a time gate, but we're not that good lmao

urban nest
#

u should just send hub honestly

fallen zealot
#

obv 2-2 is faster, we just don't need it cause our hub isn't thst good

urban nest
#

since u don't need to worry about cell

placid marten
odd delta
#

ngl i think we should stop mining hub B

urban nest
#

u could on a scout kill

glass cradle
#

that is indeed a safety strat

odd delta
#

if you're starving yeah but otherwise shooting and pushing >>>

urban nest
#

or if it's really fucked

#

but it's more of a comms thingy

#

any pingers?

fallen zealot
#

all I know is that my team was locked in and we got the clear

placid marten
#

We gotta improve cell grab/walk (and I also gotta get cleaner on transition to B in charger) aswell as HUB when/if we get cell closer

Weve currently had cell so delayed in all runs (like 1 min behind)

odd delta
#

youch

glass cradle
#

thats kinda crazy

oblique lotus
#

im getting mods so i can carry cell on my back and run with it

placid marten
fallen zealot
restive mirage
placid marten
urban nest
#

conclusion

#

always gamble

#

always full send

oblique lotus
#

just gamble right

fallen zealot
#

GOLD GOLD GOLD

glass cradle
#

r5e1 is short enough you can kinda just gamble atp

fallen zealot
#

isn't speedrunning just a gamba simulator

urban nest
#

it is

oblique lotus
#

l key, reset

glass cradle
#

yes but longer levels you arent gamba ing

fallen zealot
#

that's why we love it I see

urban nest
#

me when I hit that close B hsu

placid marten
#

I also think our looting and pushing in giant zone can likely net us another 10-15 seconds
Weve been rough at it for our standards

urban nest
#

GOLD GOLD GOLD

glass cradle
#

r5e1 is not a long level

oblique lotus
fallen zealot
#

time to start playing with low graphics mod cause I don't care about submitting runs

#

get my 60 fps back

placid marten
#

also I swear
tool is so worthless in split strat

#

holy shit

glass cradle
#

yeah its not super important

urban nest
#

it's just ending

glass cradle
#

ending doesnt need much tool

urban nest
#

ye

#

it's like

#

3 mines 40% foam

#

gg

oblique lotus
#

at least 1 mine and enough c foam for big doors

placid marten
#

even if we run the secure ending strat (3 mines) which costs like 5 seconds

Then we still only rly use 6 mines (1 tool) and about 100% foam (2 tool)

#

For whole level

fallen zealot
urban nest
#

where's 6th mine

oblique lotus
#

that was really high roll

fallen zealot
#

that was GOLD

urban nest
#

surge/class 3/ending

placid marten
urban nest
#

ye I thought about chargers

odd delta
#

eva you're resetting for D key for hot strat right

placid marten
#

split strat

#

but ye

We tried split chill strat

But killing 2 mom, 4 giants and 50+ babies on door is inconsistent

fallen zealot
#

skill issue obv

placid marten
#

I think you can likely do it

#

And just run everything at wr pace

#

Split chill strat only loses about 20 seconds

#

compared to split

candid jackal
#

super chill strat it?

fallen zealot
#

the super chill strat

#

what a funny name

placid marten
candid jackal
#

mhm

#

everything loses time

placid marten
#

at 30+ forced time loss is when the reset just straight up goes faster

candid jackal
#

but where is the line where you stop trying to minimise losses, and start trying to maximise gains - if you get what i mean

glass cradle
#

split has always been best

candid jackal
#

going from avoiding mistakes to full send

glass cradle
#

this is known

placid marten
#

Its a shame cell path is so lame

#

Ive found likeโ€ฆ 2 seconds of time improvement for the full cell route

#

which is fucking nothing

#

considering how long it is

glass cradle
#

feels like I wasted so much time on the level way back then man, but ig that is the cost of skill progging

candid jackal
#

that is the price we all pay

odd delta
#

i feel like im skillprogging a lot doing this but maybe it's my sanity slipping

fallen zealot
#

idk the different between like two days ago and today's runs was insane lmao

#

maybe it's just placebo

oblique lotus
odd delta
#

yet

fallen zealot
#

your fault if you play with chill and you crash out

oblique lotus
#

yeah

glass cradle
#

we w ere definitely playing the game

oblique lotus
#

warm up session kinda long yesterday ngl

candid jackal
#

gl with the runs later i'm going to bed

#

have fun! don't miss the 4 use ammopack!

glass cradle
#

it is time

odd delta
#

there in maybe 30

glass cradle
#

maybe it is not time

#

ping me if we assemble 4

#

im watching bread play hk till then

ancient charm
#

I may be around after I eat dinner as well

odd delta
#

@glass cradle

glass cradle
#

nice vc link pub

mellow pike
mellow pike
cloud depot
glass cradle
#

I Mean you guys werent actually doing split I thought?

odd delta
#

it's "drop cell in cell zone A after getting it as 4man"

#

then 3 ppl do tank zone and 1 get cell

#

the timesave isn't huge, (it's literally time of running cell A - tank zone subtract time walking cell A - tank zone) , but it is "free" since the 4th person didn't really matter for tank zone in our experience running

cloud depot
odd delta
#

calling it split strat is disingenuous

cloud depot
#

ig

odd delta
#

because we all go in for cell, it's the carry that is split not the actual getting which is the hard part

#

ngl if we are hot stratting i don't do much in cell zone, i hold error and push spawns and loot boxes and that's pretty much it. issue is that there is nothing better i can do because soloing moms isn't really an option (unless i partial pull and game the fuck out ig)

#

and doing that would require having done teamscan to moms already at which point we might as well do chill strat

cloud depot
#

i mean u say is not much, but looting boxes is big ngl

#

we need dat ammo

odd delta
#

yeah but someone commits to ping ammo anyways

#

so me looting the 5 empty boxes doesn't help

#

when if you know where it is on way out it's free to get

cloud depot
#

so we only have to ping one

#

instead of 2

odd delta
#

that's fair

cloud depot
#

and if u get medis or tool its a bonus

#

so i think is still pretty worth

odd delta
#

yeah for sure it is helpful

#

i just feel like there has to be more for me to do

cloud depot
#

hmm

fallen zealot
#

i watched the run back and I had forgotten we got god scans on first surge

odd delta
#

shh

fallen zealot
#

instant teamscan lmao

cloud depot
#

wasnt it like instant 3rd scan

#

ye lol

#

we also finally got double scout A but not both in the back of the room

fallen zealot
#

yeah we weren't really splitting

odd delta
#

i'd be down to run actual split strat this evening (evening in EU time) though

fallen zealot
#

it's just like a 20 sec time save at best cause our hub is slow

fallen zealot
cloud depot
odd delta
#

part of the timesave is hard to quantify because it's lakana taking error waves that tank zone doesn't have to deal with during the actual shooting part

cloud depot
cloud depot
fallen zealot
#

i hate going back to work after an entire week of cell skipping every night

#

Where's work skip

cloud depot
#

alt+f4 out of work

odd delta
#

only notable thing is that tools would have to be switched up if we are splitting like i think (me and star in tank zone)

#

because tank zone kinda needs to be bio + mines

fallen zealot
#

don't take away my bio

#

i cant live without it

odd delta
#

nah im saying take away ducks bio

fallen zealot
#

good.

odd delta
#

they will be carrying cell in split anyways since they're not scatter

#

(unless ammo situation is really dire)

cloud depot
odd delta
#

well

#

ig we could run me and lakana tank zone

fallen zealot
#

nah I hate that shit

#

gimme the boring cell walk

odd delta
#

ngl i hated playing tank zone like 4 days ago

#

and then i just threw myself at it enough and now i feel like i just get it

fallen zealot
#

fair

oblique lotus
woeful belfry
#

is it possible to beat r8e2 in 52m?

odd delta
#

yeah

#

speedrun wr is 41:44

rustic bridge