gtfo-speed-running

[placid marten]

or if we ever push for sub 24 100%

[wind cliff]

Yeah

[fallen zealot]

can i give 5 euros to every player to get r4e1 29:--

its a good incentive

[covert cypress]

Where did r6c2 come from

[sullen silo]

oh wait

wrong rundown

[covert cypress]

Did someone suggest that

[urban nest]

💀

[placid marten]

where did R6C2 come from

WHA

[fallen zealot]

r6c2

[candid jackal]

i was gonna say

[fallen zealot]

i voted it

do it

[urban nest]

please don't

[wind cliff]

I was voting

[covert cypress]

is it r5c2 main or 100% too

[wind cliff]

For r6c2

[covert cypress]

What am I voting for here

[wind cliff]

Hate to say

[fallen zealot]

r6c2

[fallen zealot]

r5c2 100% or main what is that

[urban nest]

i trust it's 100% surely

[candid jackal]

yeah sure, i'll hold you to it

[placid marten]

R5C2 99%

cant finish extract

[covert cypress]

100% more interesting

[fallen zealot]

ping me here when it ahppens

[sullen silo]

uhh

[urban nest]

whats current wr again

[candid jackal]

what if the channel gets killed by then

[fallen zealot]

90:00

[candid jackal]

for r4e1?

[fallen zealot]

no 5 euros shame on yo

[urban nest]

jish knows

[wind cliff]

Like 41 mins or something

[urban nest]

i know that one

[fallen zealot]

41 minutes doesn't sound bad i can easily solo it

[placid marten]

100% will easily not have many people joining tho

[drifting citrus]

well... that's it with bringing some new groups

[placid marten]

I can say that for sure

Just to clarify that for Soy

[wind cliff]

Well

Yeah

R5c2 100%

If mega fucked

[covert cypress]

I don’t think r6 story is getting much either

[fallen zealot]

ngl i voted it just cause i want to see more runs of it

[covert cypress]

Cause it’s over 25 mins right guys

[placid marten]

fun run to watch

but nothing for people who might be interested in a fun run to try

[drifting citrus]

2 teams are running this xd

[wind cliff]

LOL

[drifting citrus]

maybe 3rd

[placid marten]

nah savis team is busy

[urban nest]

trust i'll get a team team

[wind cliff]

We can bully frosty out of your group so he makes a new team

[urban nest]

dw ure cooked

🙏

[sullen silo]

is it just the 100% that puts off people or is it R5C2 in general|?

[fallen zealot]

i'll just post in #lfg-beginners for r5c2 100% speeds

[placid marten]

100%

[wind cliff]

100% will hurt

Those players

[placid marten]

the strat for 100% to do it fast is not something most people will pull off

[wind cliff]

who are new

[covert cypress]

but what are they competing against

[drifting citrus]

any% MIGHT get some players, but it is already on the edge, 100% strat is just giga fucked

[covert cypress]

They’re not competing for the wr surely

[candid jackal]

runs done by which individual, on which level, under which conditions (gtfo%? individual level runs?), under which circumstances (one and done? multiple runs until a decent baseline time is had?)

as I said, a good time is a function of the amount of time you put into running the level
if you spend 90 minutes and don't give a fuck about cleaning everything up wrt your movement/minimising wasted time then yeah of course the time is going to be bad, but that's a function of time invested and not of the run being easy or difficult

[covert cypress]

If it’s not wr and it’s something different

[urban nest]

sub 50 !!

[fallen zealot]

what about to compete for sub 50

or sub 1 hour

[covert cypress]

Something more achievable

[urban nest]

or sub 45 idk

[covert cypress]

Then sure

[fallen zealot]

sub 1:10 is more reasonable tbh

whenever i pub that level it's always 1:30 ore more lol

[sullen silo]

how hard is R5C2 to play normallyt

100%

not speedrunning, just playing normally

[urban nest]

isn't it like 2nd hardest C tier in the game

or smth

[sullen silo]

its been a long time since i played

[fallen zealot]

its decently hard

[covert cypress]

It’s not that hard tbh

[sullen silo]

mixed messages

[placid marten]

Imo there is obviously a difference between a grinded out multiple attempt singular run. And a run in say gtfo full game where you are under mercy of rng and dont want to wipe

now lets look at R8B4

19:08 was gtfo any% time
What do you think is a 100% reproducable time with worst rng?

[fallen zealot]

i mean depends on the player lmao

are you asking the thousand hours players or the average player

[urban nest]

everyone here is above at least 2k hours lmao

[placid marten]

R4C3, R6C3, R7C3, R8C2

id say top 5?

[fallen zealot]

nerds

[sullen silo]

excuse me

[covert cypress]

guys the average players will not be participating most likely

[sullen silo]

forgetting someone

[urban nest]

u get a skull emoji

[fallen zealot]

okay then it's not that hard

[urban nest]

my b g

[placid marten]

wat

[fallen zealot]

hope you got a discord notif

from that

[urban nest]

u literally named a memory level, melee level and an ammo tight level

[placid marten]

huh?

[urban nest]

they're like gimmick

[placid marten]

we are talking about difficulty of C tiers

in general

[urban nest]

are we talking about 100% or main

[placid marten]

100%

[fallen zealot]

okay but if the average player is not partecipating r5c2 100% is good no?

[urban nest]

nahh

[covert cypress]

yea

[candid jackal]

To make an informed decision I'd need more familiarity with the level, but given there's 6 mins between the gtfo% and your run then yes, most likely you can always beat 19:08 if you play well?

But why does that matter at all as a qualifier? A bad unpracticed run is slow and easy to beat if you're focused and minimising your time loss, so I'm still befuddled as to the point you're arguing

[placid marten]

nah

[urban nest]

think yea

it's a good challenge

[candid jackal]

oh I misread

[sullen silo]

just cause an average player isnt participating doesnt mean i want to make it inaccessable to them

[candid jackal]

idk I can't give you a time unless I know the level and how much time is lost from each segment if you roll badly or play poorly

[sullen silo]

not saying it is inaccessable

but thats my mindset with this thing

[wind cliff]

guys

[placid marten]

id agree with the 2nd part if the time difference between it and the gtfo full game wasnt bigger than the WR and it

you can easily get 15 min everytime. The only rough part being the start which is realistically only a challenge if you dont find ammo at all (you can just loot for 10 seconds and get a 4 use safe)

[covert cypress]

That’s why they should compete to beat an easier time

[wind cliff]

there is a diffrent angle here

[covert cypress]

Instead of WR

[candid jackal]

Take current time as benchmark rng, add the time loss from bad rng, then add on +10-15% from that for sloppy play

[wind cliff]

what level do we want to run the least

[fallen zealot]

well yeah

[urban nest]

just make 2 comps

one for pubs one for tryhards

[placid marten]

R5C2 100% fast strat is inaccessable for them for sure tho

[urban nest]

ezpz

[sullen silo]

hold on guys my mic stand fell off

[fallen zealot]

make a comp to be cuter than sky

[wind cliff]

soy

YOUR

[placid marten]

R1A1

[wind cliff]

WHAT If

WE FORCE EVERY ONE TO RUN R1A1

that way

[fallen zealot]

no

[placid marten]

oh god

[wind cliff]

we can mid max the time

[placid marten]

MID MAX

[wind cliff]

we can try to get it lower

[placid marten]

what

[wind cliff]

MID MAX

[placid marten]

OH

min max

[wind cliff]

MID

[placid marten]

wait uh

but ye jokes aside

R5C2100% will not get many people running

[wind cliff]

r4d2 1100%

will tho

[sullen silo]

yeah thats the plan

[wind cliff]

trust

[sullen silo]

pretty much everyone wil get a role

and then the special coloured role is given to the sweatlords that are top three

[drifting citrus]

k so here's the strat: get like 10 different shows totaling to about a week worth of watch time: and then each player hosts the lobby 1/4th of the time and everyone watches together shows while the host is resetting for 8 hours

[placid marten]

R6 story%
R3D1
R5C2 main

and some other ones

are way more accessable

R6 story% biggest wall is Reactor skip, especially since cycle skip in the boss fight saves nearly a minute and is not smth many will pull off

[sullen silo]

either fastest in general or first to beat a certain time

[fallen zealot]

i wish you could run multiple gtfo instances to run r1a1 so you can reset everytime like minecraft speedruningdoes

[placid marten]

the advantage of choosing say R3D1 is that we can choose a goal time (like 11 minutes) which is reachable but tough so the "sweatlords" as soy called them have a good goal to reach

[covert cypress]

We got the Minecraft speedrunning mention

[drifting citrus]

bro my game crashes at 1 instance, running 2 is a death sentence

[sullen silo]

no offence to the sweatlords btw

[covert cypress]

The speedrunning argument criteria has been complete

[sullen silo]

keep up the good work

[placid marten]

oh dw

[fallen zealot]

lmao

[wind cliff]

i prefer a different liquid

[placid marten]

if jish idea gets put forward maybe I can start calling myself a Sweatsage

[wind cliff]

SO CLOSE

still need a different liquid

[placid marten]

NO

ffs

[fallen zealot]

if i still vaped i would try a sweatsage flavour

[placid marten]

xD

[sullen silo]

ok so back on track

it seems we are at another impasse

[wind cliff]

soy coming to us with brain storming

is the worst thing

[sullen silo]

on if 100% is the way to go or not

[urban nest]

guys can we just agree on r3d1

[wind cliff]

yeah

i agree

r3d1

[placid marten]

^

[bleak crane]

R3D1 would be good.

[wind cliff]

@covert cypress conform

Please

i know it isnt in your TC blood

[covert cypress]

sure whatever

gotta let the A tier runners have a chance right

[wind cliff]

okay

no one say anything

we have consensus

[covert cypress]

Consensus

[placid marten]

what about R3A2 instead?

I like the odds for a sub 3:20 jish

[sullen silo]

r3d1 is the first level with the big mother right

[covert cypress]

ye

[placid marten]

yea

[wind cliff]

yeah

[fallen zealot]

what's the timer for r3d1 then

[sullen silo]

ok i kinda remember that one

[fallen zealot]

to get the non sweat badge

[wind cliff]

12 mins if your being nice

[fallen zealot]

if 11 is to beat wr?

[wind cliff]

sub 14

[sullen silo]

well i think that level is in my skill level

[bleak crane]

Isn't that a high-roll-fest?

[sullen silo]

so ill set the baseline

[placid marten]

id say sub 11 for "Sage"
and sub 15 for general speed?

[placid marten]

you wanna know the theoretical odds ray

[drifting citrus]

sub 15 general speed would be good

[sullen silo]

you actual gtfo players can figure out the good time to beat

[fallen zealot]

sub 15 seems good

[drifting citrus]

no rng for sub 15, while not requiring the most fucked strats

[fallen zealot]

maybe?

[urban nest]

do u think sub 10 is possible lol

[drifting citrus]

nope

[wind cliff]

can i use

CConsole

[urban nest]

yes

[wind cliff]

then ues

[placid marten]

R3A2 sub 3:20 would take a theoretical 1 in 1.500.000.000 (obviously rounded)

its unclear whether that seed can even exist

[wind cliff]

i do think it is possible

In my solo guide for r3d1

i get a sub 6 min time

[fallen zealot]

there's a solo guide

[wind cliff]

i am pretty sure

[fallen zealot]

for r3d1?

[urban nest]

the jish guide goes hard

[fallen zealot]

wait i never seen it

[wind cliff]

LOL

[drifting citrus]

that seed gonna hit so hard when it has the 7 giant on path to first team scan xd

[wind cliff]

It is me making fun of a solo montage player

[placid marten]

eh 3 scatterguns

[wind cliff]

For 7 mins

[fallen zealot]

i need it

[placid marten]

ooooh

that one back then

wasnt that the same guy who posted the screenshot with feet

[wind cliff]

YES

YES

[sullen silo]

no

dont bring that up

[covert cypress]

Is that the same guy

[sullen silo]

i want to forget

[wind cliff]

https://youtu.be/Da1y4PTuT3E?si=enhkZ3QL8RNLNFhX

[fallen zealot]

ty jish

[covert cypress]

I thought GoN Arch was a different guy

[wind cliff]

he had

like

7 smurfs

beth

[covert cypress]

what the fuck happened

He should’ve stuck to his montages

[fallen zealot]

how the fuck did i know this guy before playing gtfo

i had him on my steam friends through gunfire reborn

[sullen silo]

guys theres an issue

i cant play r3d1

i dont have it unlocked

[wind cliff]

LOL

[fallen zealot]

this guy admins for the server

cooked

[bleak crane]

Someone carry Soy

[wind cliff]

soy

just @ us

[placid marten]

I can host for you if yo uwant?

[sullen silo]

hey its not my fault they removed all of my completions

[wind cliff]

we can taxi

you into the level

[placid marten]

we can do a casual fast clear

no fancy strats

[sullen silo]

the game told me to do the tutorial first as well

[placid marten]

just r3d1 how its meant to be

[sullen silo]

yeah that might be for the best

[placid marten]

damn soy washed

[sullen silo]

i dont think i could solo it anyway

guys i swear ive played this game before

[placid marten]

who has time rn?

[placid marten]

nuh uh
beginner

[sullen silo]

[drifting citrus]

i do but i may or may not write on the logger mid run

and we all know what happens in charger zone

[fallen zealot]

this tutorial goes hard omw to get a sub 10

[sullen silo]

if im gonna play with you guys we have to run meme builds to make it fair

[wind cliff]

i really like the hard cut

[placid marten]

https://discord.gg/hpsKFyph
R3D1? for soy

[wind cliff]

it is so funny

[fallen zealot]

caught me by surprise ngl

thought i had a seizure

[wind cliff]

did you like the speedrun music

in the background

[fallen zealot]

oh it brings me back to when i was a teenager

[placid marten]

@wind cliff

join

[bleak crane]

Does it have to be just one level, btw?

[sullen silo]

i think we've decided on R3d1 for this one

but if you have a suggestion ill take it in mind for next time i do one

[bleak crane]

Probably R5E1 or R7E1.

Hard speeds w/ varied strats

and both under 30 minutes

(even not on the most optimal route)

[urban nest]

ray this is not accessible

[covert cypress]

yeah only 2 teams are gonna run this…

[bleak crane]

Non-Brazil-skip R7E1 is pretty relaxed

[urban nest]

ig but it's an E tier

if that means anything

pubs can't clear those not talking about speed

[covert cypress]

yeah think about the average players!!!

[urban nest]

yes yes !!

[bleak crane]

I don't think pubs are participating in this in general

[covert cypress]

the average players that are totally going to be interested in speedrunning

[urban nest]

colored role is a colored role

[fallen zealot]

hey

if i get a coloured role

[bleak crane]

Like, the R6C1 ended up being 3 teams in the end anyway

[fallen zealot]

ill partecipate

[bleak crane]

And became boring almost immediately because it was too easy to optimize

[covert cypress]

r3d1 will be the same btw

[urban nest]

i mean that's just how it is

[fallen zealot]

game is dead no?

[covert cypress]

for short levels yeah

[fallen zealot]

i see more vc's with farm merge valley than gtfo

[covert cypress]

They’re boring as fuck to optimise

[urban nest]

r7e1 with brazil skip would be one of the best choices ngl

[placid marten]

ah yes that will get many people joining

[bleak crane]

I think R7E1 would be good just because you can get a decent time w/out Brazil skipping

Brazil skip is like a 2min time save

[sullen silo]

after this competition im down to do some random ass levels that will only have 2 teams playing

[covert cypress]

that’d be fun probably

[sullen silo]

this is the only one that i intend to try and make actually accessable

cuz its the sendoff for this channel

[fallen zealot]

yes i want to see speedrunners fight against each other

[covert cypress]

good luck with that

e tier too scary

[fallen zealot]

[wind cliff]

https://discord.gg/Wtkk2SU4

play with them

i go work

[fallen zealot]

zz

my farm merge

[dawn wave]

Wesley's sum of best is 4:05.9 unless he got a better run
That's scary

[drifting citrus]

i think sum of best for like the entire community was like 4.05.7xx

[dawn wave]

Is R6D1 even viable to run after sniper nerf

[placid marten]

yes
but also cycle skip is known now which is some extra time you dont spend in the level

[dawn wave]

Freeze bug run?

Or something else

[covert cypress]

client tumor things

Shooting it before it pops on your end so you get extra damage

With the goal of skipping a cycle

[wind cliff]

You can over damage tumors. By having a low tumor and or shooting a tumor that has already popped by not popped on your end

If you over damage by 12 sniper shots

Then you would have skipped a phase

[dawn wave]

Oh like that

[wind cliff]

Yeah

It is “easy” to do

You just have to be accustomed with your team’s latency and you have 4 sniper shots of error

The set up is like 12 dmr plus 9 sniper

To bring tumor to 1 hp but you have to adjust based on damage fall off calculations that kinda just need to be eye balled

If you don’t then you will lose your 4 sniper shots of error and only have 3

[dawn wave]

[rustic bridge]

i missed the fun

damn you australian timezone

[glass cradle]

Dw frosty I'm crashing out when I get home in 4 hours

[rustic bridge]

HUGE

when does this thing start

[obsidian dome]

Anytime but not for Australian timezone friendly :)

[sullen silo]

soon™️

ish

[candid jackal]

what level again

[wind cliff]

GTFO sex%

[urban nest]

r3d1 i think

[candid jackal]

why is it r3d1

wasn't it decided to be r5c2

[urban nest]

nah

[rustic bridge]

(impossible)

[rustic bridge]

majority agreed on r3d1

[wind cliff]

More like

[candid jackal]

when and where

[wind cliff]

We forced compliance

I spent 30 aura

to do it

[urban nest]

.

[candid jackal]

i guess i zoned out/went to get food at that part

[rustic bridge]

went from sigma to beta

[rustic bridge]

here

@candid jackal

i dont mean to single you out jish sigma boy

[wind cliff]

Sorry

I think it was my idea

[urban nest]

aight

[rustic bridge]

what the fuck jish

im happy its r3d1 tho cause now PEOPLE HAVE TO RUN IT

[placid marten]

Well it all comes back to me

[rustic bridge]

ive wanted to run it for like a year

[rustic bridge]

witch hunt this man

[placid marten]

Ngl if the role is called smth like GTFO SAGE

then we give jish massive props

[wind cliff]

You guys

Just

Splat on all my ideas

It is worse than high school

at least you don’t dunk my head in the use urinal but I feel like you all would try to if you could

[placid marten]

wtf

[candid jackal]

i'm not sure if i'll find r3d1 all too compelling to run

[urban nest]

i don't have a team to run it

chad dumped me

[candid jackal]

complexity dips when there's only one thing to be doing at a time, with how short the level is scan rng ends up becoming quite a large determinant

[placid marten]

Huh

[urban nest]

'i'll be running it with my static'

ffs

[candid jackal]

reads like a 2016 meme

dumped by chad

[urban nest]

ikr

[placid marten]

Like this.. or general gtfo?

[urban nest]

r3d1

[placid marten]

also just force star or smth

[candid jackal]

when does it start

[urban nest]

star is not a speed player rlly

and idw to make him

[placid marten]

make em

[candid jackal]

speedrunning is just a set of learned behaviours

[urban nest]

yeah exactly

[placid marten]

also sub 16(:08?) is pretty casually doable

you go and shoot
no logs, no fancy strats

[urban nest]

for r3d1 u mean?

[placid marten]

Yup

[urban nest]

my pubs get like 18 to 19 occasionally

[placid marten]

yea

[wind cliff]

The duo time is lower

You can beat 16 easy

[placid marten]

duo time barely beating sub 15 smh

[urban nest]

isn't it 14:40

[wind cliff]

Yup

So you will save time on every section of scans

With 4

You just need to make it to the team scans on time

[candid jackal]

if double foam is still fastest strat i'm gonna cry

[placid marten]

its less about being faster and just being safer

if done badly 2nd alarm is slower with foam

[cloud depot]

no

[placid marten]

yes

[placid marten]

Also crazy timing to gundyrs theme picking up

[cloud depot]

i dont disagree, but i hate that an absolute perfectly executed run can get fked by rng

[rustic bridge]

thats just speedrunning in a lot of games for you

[cloud depot]

it is, and it is precisely why i personally dont like it

well one of the main reasons at least

[placid marten]

me when I had 2nd place nmg pace in PP Ch1.3 but didnt get last pole skip due to rng and fucked it

well @cloud depot you could just do some 4fun fast runs

[cloud depot]

if it was on smthin like r4e1 i wouldve considered doing that maybe, but i dont find just doin r3d1 fast particularly interesting, not much of a challenge even with my skilled issued self

[covert cypress]

its just scan rng anyway

💤

[cloud depot]

meanwhile quick r4e1 even if im not goin for wr is still fairly diffcult

for me at least

[rustic bridge]

r4e1 is more rng lmao

[cloud depot]

i sk balls

[covert cypress]

r4e1 is only rng at this stage

if ur going for wr

[cloud depot]

i mean in the context of just going for a "fast" run

not for a wr

[covert cypress]

otherwise for a lot of earlier runs its just skill

[rustic bridge]

ah

[cloud depot]

for wr ya

i think ur run is more or less optimized skill wise

maybe like slight time loss on reactor

[covert cypress]

theres stil skill expression

but yea rng matters more now

[placid marten]

shadow zone full sprint max skill progression unlocked when

[cloud depot]

fair enuf

[covert cypress]

probably never cause idk if we're pushing the time to a point where that matters

that could be like sub 29 angle

id have to see what sub 30 run looks like

[cloud depot]

hmm

ya hard to say for sure rn

[candid jackal]

yeah r4e1 is mostly down to getting good keys, good cell in reactor (you're having a worse time if you don't roll e-trip or 2nd c-trip to use at blood door), and good scans once you're playing well

but it takes a fair amount of growing into to get that skill expression in each role and even still you can fuck up

[cloud depot]

well if in the future there is an r4e1 speed i'd prolly go for a "fast" run like i said, should be an interesting challenge, no intention of going or expecting a wr from me tho xd

[candid jackal]

and then there's more facets to perform and things to do than a lot of other levels which are more along the lines of running from point A to point B

[cloud depot]

yea i mean i imagine looting efficiently matters alot

way more than smthin like A-B speeds

[candid jackal]

Not even just that

A lot of speedruns you are really just running for scans and picking up one or two objects

[placid marten]

yea in r4e1 you run for scans while picking up objects

[candid jackal]

look, at least there's a bit more to it

[placid marten]

yea like a reactor

[rustic bridge]

harder levels always have more to them

[candid jackal]

doing all the stuff at reactor, resources afterwards, choosing when to use meds to push harder

[placid marten]

you know like 3 way split ups

[candid jackal]

dealing with any scout waves when necessary

[placid marten]

that just sounds like many speeds tbh, minus the reactor

[candid jackal]

more intense

[placid marten]

r4e1 reactor is cool due to fast waves tho ngl

if that was a typical long reactor it would be so snooze

r4e1 already has 2 long waiting sections basically

[cloud depot]

i think there is a big diff in the intensity and leeway tho

like shadow zone when u sprint tho

is pretty scary xd

reactor is also no joke

well mostly w6

[placid marten]

big? Eh
depends on what you compare

its definetly on the high end. But thats expected considering its an E tier

[cloud depot]

but still

well ya

most speeds arent E

[candid jackal]

The harder the squeeze the better it feels

[cloud depot]

since there is only a few E tiers xd

[placid marten]

some speeds bump up the run difficulty itself in crazy ways if you try and full send them

[cloud depot]

that sounds very wrong out of context lmao

[placid marten]

[candid jackal]

what? everyone loves a good hug

[cloud depot]

well i cant argue with that

[turbid osprey]

I have found people do not like being picked up when you hug em

[cloud depot]

they're just to tsundere

[turbid osprey]

Tbf I'm doing this to like 6'3 350 pound dudes

I think they're unaccustomed

[wind cliff]

I wish someone would pick me up and not dunk my head into the toilet @placid marten

[cloud depot]

lmfao

[placid marten]

Bruh whaaa

Id never do that

Id yoink peoples hats sometimes at worst

[cloud depot]

oh ya btw speaking of r4e1 speeds what's usually done to mom room? I only watched beth's run and she was defending reactor so not sure

im assuming prolly just blast

[placid marten]

you hope theres a good path

[candid jackal]

you normally just walk through

[placid marten]

best case

[candid jackal]

there is provision to kill em, Ray's the one who'd make that call

[rustic bridge]

hope for sprint path

[placid marten]

imagine killing mothers

[cloud depot]

i see

[placid marten]

R3d1 and r8d2 the only true big mom friendly runs

[candid jackal]

sprint path doesn't really speed too much up (maybe on the way out of reactor?)

[placid marten]

even on r5c2 you kill her…

[placid marten]

Way out yes

[candid jackal]

within codes you have enough time to walk path

cell can't sprint

[placid marten]

cell… COULD

but only in other categories

[rustic bridge]

well you wouldnt wake them up cause bhopping

[cloud depot]

i see

well u prolly dont save THAT much time even with sprint path then, tho its nice for looting which i imagine helps quite a bit

[wind cliff]

You can force good path

One walk path almost always exists

[placid marten]

honestly in theory how you play shadow zones is probably the biggest time save left

but that can get really fucked

[rustic bridge]

the 3 moms on end room door

[cloud depot]

i dont quite understand what u mean by "force"

[candid jackal]

Bkh being 5s faster through mom zone doesn't mean you're 5s faster out of reactor anyhow

still bottlenecked by res grab

[placid marten]

which is theoretically bottlenecked by mom zone

idk why you cant use telepathy to communicate where stuff is

I do it in some recent runs

smh

[sullen silo]

Wow this channel is so active now

All it took was it being faced with gettint thannos snapped

And a competition ig

[placid marten]

yea I cant believe theres talks about this being read only

crazy decision by some admins i guess

[sullen silo]

I mean part of me is somewhat second guessing it at this point

[covert cypress]

nah its probs best

itll die again after this

[cloud depot]

probably

[sullen silo]

If the channel was always this active it’d be obvious to keep it

But yeah, I doubt it’ll stay this active

[cloud depot]

i mean in my case i literary only opened this channel cause i heard it was getting nuked lmao, and decided to join the convo

[placid marten]

Dont tempt me

ill start sending fun facts about gtfo levels every day

surely

[sullen silo]

If only that was speedrunning related

[delicate flare]

eva posting a new quiz about gtfo until they slowly divert to quizzes about deadspace

[sullen silo]

Tbf if I kept up this whole challenges thing for a while I could probably change this to just be a gtfo challenge channel

But idk if that is blasphemous

[wind cliff]

I really like

the idea

[sullen silo]

Also I’d rather make a forum to be honest

[wind cliff]

Of just letting us argue in this channel

Forever

It would be my heaven

[sullen silo]

No you have gtfo chat for that

I mean

No you’re not meant to argue

[wind cliff]

But we would miss out on goated lines like

[delicate flare]

if we speed into insults in an argument is that gtfo speedrun technically

[wind cliff]

Discord is a 3rd party service we need to not use it in speedruns

[sullen silo]

Oh so true

I should add that to the rules of the competition

[placid marten]

You think I dont have speedrun facts?

[sullen silo]

Yeah I probably should have realised you would

[delicate flare]

gtfo fun facts competition

[placid marten]

the guy who litteraly does a quizshow

💀

[delicate flare]

who says more fun facts until they run out

[sullen silo]

Oh that’s a good idea I’ll save it for later

[delicate flare]

omg u should do it with the devs maybs

would be a banger

[sullen silo]

I very much doubt they’d have the time to do that

[delicate flare]

my joke

[placid marten]

wdym

THAT IS MY IDEA. Ive done it 9 times and its going to happen soon with the devs

[delicate flare]

my bit

[sullen silo]

Oh really?

[placid marten]

they do

yes

[sullen silo]

Surprises me to be honest

[placid marten]

it was planned last wed

but one had smth come up urgently so we are replanning

[placid marten]

Its been in the works since gamescom man

[delicate flare]

if devs have time to be denning and wolving they b havin time for quizzin

[sullen silo]

That’s cool

[sullen silo]

Hey I only just became active again I’m not in the loop

[placid marten]

smh

[delicate flare]

ssmh

[placid marten]

on that note

I also am planning to do a gtfo solo lockout bingo event

but me being sick got in the way of planning much

[sullen silo]

No commitment smh

But anyway I’m gonna steal your idea of a quiz show for another competition

If anyone else has any ideas for me to steal lmk

[delicate flare]

something stupid i always wanted to do is a spanish game where u ask questions which answers go around the abecedary, like answers with A B C D and so on, but thats a very spanish game

not really something u can do in english

[placid marten]

OY

[sullen silo]

Cry about it

[placid marten]

I will

just wait

The BBC copypasta will find you

[sullen silo]

oh no

[delicate flare]

occlusions e1 will find u

[sullen silo]

anyway i think its time to start the speedrun competition

[cloud depot]

I hope everyone has a gud time with it

[rustic bridge]

im eating give me 5 minutes

[sullen silo]

too late

https://forms.gle/y4ojNtwJTDsQzk556

pinning the form link here too

[delicate flare]

D:

[sullen silo]

also just to clarify, this channel will remain like it is now until a little bit after the competition ends

[fallen zealot]

I like how

no where it says it's r3d1

can I just submit an r1a1 solo

[placid marten]

Oooh

[sullen silo]

oh

whoops

[placid marten]

xD

i may be blind

[sullen silo]

updated

yeah i half blame you eva

[placid marten]

my excuse is im sick

And that I knew youd be stealing my quizshow idea

I shouldve trademarked it like the podcast smh

[sullen silo]

so it was sabotage

smh

i should trademark gtfo speedruns after this

[rustic bridge]

yeah ngl if some people try and find a loophole or some shit to get an advantage im gonna start exposing people

[placid marten]

ill most likely verify any run anyway that gets sub 11:20

and no mods/cheats/glitches/boosters is mostly everything no?

[sullen silo]

the only thing ive thought of since is no runs completed before the date of the competition start

but idk how we'd check for that lmao

[rustic bridge]

logs

you should make that a rule

[sullen silo]

maybe

i might just do it as a rule for runs under 11 mins though

those are the only ones i imagine will need proper verification

maybe i shouldnt have said that publically

[glass cradle]

you guys are funny

[delicate flare]

am i funny :3

[glass cradle]

sometimes

[delicate flare]

yay

[wind cliff]

Thank you

[native crest]

@sullen silo Assuming that the runners are incentivized to get the lowest possible time, then the problem with choosing an "accessible" level is that getting the lowest time will generally devolve into grinding for as close to perfect RNG as possible. This shifts the 'accessibility barrier' for striving for the lowest time from 'being one of the best teams running' to 'being a good enough team running and having the most amount of time during the competition window'.

This was seen during 10CC's R6C1 competition. The teams that got the lowest times all grinded for dozens and dozens of hours, I think the winning team literally woke-up, grinded all day, went to bed for days in a row. No discredit to those teams, they're all good and their commitment and dedication is impressive, the point is simply that 'team that only has 8 hours to run because they have other real life commitments during the window' is simply not going to have chances of getting one of the lowest times. Entry into the competition will be accessible, but getting one of the lowest times will instead have a unhealthy barrier.

And of course if you choose an inaccessible level there'll be like 3 teams.

As such, I'd strongly recommend not incentivizing (or at least only weakly incentivizing) the lowest possible time.

My suggestion (similar to part of what was suggested by yourself) is to only have rewards for beating X time. You could even split this up to have gold/silver/participation time goals. Getting the lowest possible time could still have rewards from e.g. getting a shout out in the winning announcement, but I do not think it should have a disproportionately large reward in order to avoid too strongly incentivizing unhealthy amounts of grinding.

This would also give clear goals for all those participating, they have a time to beat and they don't need to care about anyone else, they're just competing against themselves and the clock.

And if some teams want to really grind it out for the lowest time, they can still do so, and get some clout and a shout out for doing so.

[placid marten]

The reward
Is a discord role

[native crest]

I'm aware

[placid marten]

and the time thing
was suggested by myself

[sullen silo]

yeah currently there is no extra reward for being the fastest team

[candid jackal]

i didn't expect anything before going into the ruleset but i'm still sorta disappointed/let down

[sullen silo]

i mean maybe ill think about something

[placid marten]

Like
I agree

but thats a massive text for whats essentially a short statement
And thats coming from me who often also types up a lot

[placid marten]

[candid jackal]

not being able to play for the vast majority of the competition period

guess it sucks if 3 teams beat 11m before i can even get to run!

[native crest]

Soy is unfamiliar with the speedrunning community. "lol A tier grindfest zzzzzz make it just a goal time" might make sense to you but Soy deserves a bit more explanation

[sullen silo]

hmm good point actually

[candid jackal]

it ties into what tru said above

[placid marten]

because surely 3 teams will get sub 11 easily right

tho I do agree it should probably just be

Get sub 16? -> special role
get sub 11? -> extra special role

[candid jackal]

at a point it becomes about grinding for rng rather than being about skill expression

[urban nest]

lf3 r3d1

[placid marten]

it still is about skill expression

rng mattering is unavoidable. Its gtfo

[glass cradle]

but my 5 seconds running in a straight line!!!

[placid marten]

trus point of grinding is tru(e) tho

[fallen zealot]

can I play in my bed

[candid jackal]

think it'd be cool if the role for sub 11 stayed coloured but i guess some people wouldn't like that

what's better, sub11 role or NLO

[covert cypress]

me when theres an enemy on my term (i had to reset)

[sullen silo]

i should probably explain the roles a bit more

rn at least the plan is this

[candid jackal]

ya that'd help, and i should also state that there's no animosity towards you Soy

my ire is reserved for when people start saying stupid shit :)

[glass cradle]

yeah be aware that if things go wrong it is not your fault and we chatters were probably going to get mad at each other anyways 👍

[fallen zealot]

just want to point out that if things go wrong it is your fault soy and you should've never come back to the server

[urban nest]

brilliant move

[fallen zealot]

I know ty

[sullen silo]

anyone getting sub 16 gets a (i participated in this specific speedrunning competition) role, this one will be perminant but it wont be coloured.

Anyone getting sub 11 will also get an "Competition Winner" role that is coloured. After some time, essentially whenever i decide to make the next competition but at least a month probably, they'll lose that role and be given a non coloured equivalent, so that the next set of winners can be coloured instead.

While id love to keep people coloured forever, im not sure i could because eventally there would be so many people with the coloured role that it loses its unique-ness. Id also love to be able to make loads of roles for this kind of thing so its even more unique, but this is an offical server for the game and i have to keep it somewhat small scale at the end of the day.

i hope that explains it all

[urban nest]

gtfo season 1 will go hard

[placid marten]

goated soy

[fallen zealot]

can we get the John wick skin for season 3

[candid jackal]

okay cool we go r4e1 sub 30 next month

[sullen silo]

if thats what people want

but im also gonna do non speedrunning stuff at some point

maybe alongside speedrunning, if people are into it enough

[covert cypress]

dont do r4e1 sub 30 that shits ass

[sullen silo]

gotta give the non speedrunners an opertunity to feel special

[candid jackal]

and r3d1 isn't?

[covert cypress]

it is

[placid marten]

also this reads so … wrong ngl

do you really expect anyone to get mad if it werent for a select few throwing up shit

Dont push that stuff on others

[covert cypress]

but i wasnt talking abt r3d1

LOL eva

[candid jackal]

beth stop tabbing out hani needs you

[sullen silo]

id neveroops

im so sorry eva i didnt mean to delete that lmao

i meant to reply to it

[placid marten]

NO WAY

TRU HELP

[rustic bridge]

guys lets all try to have fun and a good time and be really nice to each other with good sportsmanship 😄

[sullen silo]

yeah

[fallen zealot]

no u suck frosty

I prefer lore frosty

[vernal glen]

[sullen silo]

new rule anyone being a big meanie is disqualified

[fallen zealot]

😠

[sullen silo]

and banned

[rustic bridge]

HUGE

competition gone

[sullen silo]

and they get the big dumb stupid head role

[fallen zealot]

time to get banned

[glass cradle]

yes

[fallen zealot]

GIMME

[sullen silo]

speaking of roles

[native crest]

Re: level choice. I feel like 80% or the arguments about level choice earlier were made without the context of how the competition would be run (with solely goal time based role rewards) so feelings might change on that front.
(In particular I think a lot of people complaining about boring reset heavy levels might care a bit less strongly when its just a reasonable goal time they're up against)

[sullen silo]

im undecided on the name of the coloured one

[urban nest]

red

like it was

[sullen silo]

so i think ill make it up to the winners to decide

name

not colour

[urban nest]

oh

my b

[sullen silo]

unless you want it to be called red

[native crest]

Though I'm personally fine with R3D1, though it is a bit less accessible as far as things go

[glass cradle]

I just said it shouldnt be a competition

[urban nest]

yes i want

[glass cradle]

bc this game sucks

[sullen silo]

why are you here

[placid marten]

@wind cliff already gave the best choice

[vernal glen]

a red role thats called blue would go hard

[sullen silo]

yeah its certainly a good one

but i think the winners should be able to decide

[glass cradle]

bc I try my best to make the game not suck

[rustic bridge]

this is good btw

having a time goal that is abit easier is good for accessability, and having one that is harder is good for people that want a challenge

incentive for both types of players

[placid marten]

for the first half of this comment

that was… made clear tho
I guess it just shows that discord users rarely scroll up (gamers dont look up meme)

[native crest]

I read the entire convo from top to bottom, it was never clear that this was set in stone, it had only been thrown around as suggestions

[placid marten]

Also in spirit of speedrunning
Time bounties are often a thing

[rustic bridge]

i like time bounties

[placid marten]

the comment also didnt indicate that you meant set in stone tbf…

[rustic bridge]

like for example "15:00 = bronzem, 13:00 = silver, 11:00 = gold"

[placid marten]

it was indicated that it would probably be based on time goals

[rustic bridge]

gives a chance for everyone to get a prize

or reward

[placid marten]

iirc soy said 2 roles only

[sullen silo]

yeah i gotta keep the amount lowish for now

[candid jackal]

irrespective of the way the competition is rewarded, I still believe it preferable to pick a level where the RNG component is more minimal compared to skill expression (i.e the most important factor is you playing well, and if you play poorly you get punished)

[sullen silo]

maybe ill get more bold eventually

[candid jackal]

that's my stance and will continue to be my stance

[vernal glen]

holy shit gtfo medals lets go @drifting citrus

[drifting citrus]

i fuckign said it 2 months ago

[sullen silo]

medals/badges would be such a good feature for discord

[drifting citrus]

i fucking knew it

[rustic bridge]

yeah just an example

[vernal glen]

[rustic bridge]

ACTUALLY

[candid jackal]

challenge is good and a level being accessible enough that you're playing for RNG is not great for competition or fun while playing (though one could levy that with infinite time every level becomes about RNG as player skill improves to such a degree)

[rustic bridge]

so basically new speedrunners have no chance

[native crest]

(If the time goals are chosen reasonably then even moderate-bad RNG with good-exceptional play should be able to get low or close to low enough times)

[rustic bridge]

/players

[sullen silo]

I agree that rng should be less for competition runs, not completely gone cuz that would limit levels quite a lot i imagine

[vernal glen]

/players

[sullen silo]

but im not too knowledgeable so i rely on you guys for that for now

[rustic bridge]

very much so

[placid marten]

There simply isnt many levels with no rng

[rustic bridge]

shut up finish warden mapper for every level

[vernal glen]

?

warden mapper isnt even mine

[rustic bridge]

yeah

idc

do it

or seed indexer

[vernal glen]

so real

[rustic bridge]

whatever

[placid marten]

R6D1 comes the closest of any main level i guess

[rustic bridge]

tumor rng

idk

[placid marten]

but it has a strat that most people would need to understand and pull off to have a chance

[native crest]

(Well if you pick good goal times that account for the effect of RNG then we don't have to be having this conversation)

[placid marten]

Actually a thing yes

[rustic bridge]

thats being done tho

[candid jackal]

at such a point you may start discerning the reason for competition, is it to compete or get a participation prize?
do newer players even have the skills or knowledge required in the first place to be able to play to the level required? in terms of borth the mechanical skill, the learned behaviours of minimising time (scan optimisation, looting optimisation, the small things), and what of the external stuff such as reading logs/using wardenmapper/seedindexeroverlay?

[placid marten]

I did push out multiple options i had thought of for a reason

[heady terrace]

im just now finding out about this competition

[placid marten]

Ayo lurker

[rustic bridge]

thats why there are time goals so less experienced people have a chance to earn something

[native crest]

Because it is not official and is still getting worked out before it is made a thing

[heady terrace]

understood i was told different

[vernal glen]

i dont think the competition to win a role needs to be so elitist, its probably ok to not require high skill

[placid marten]

Lemme guess

Alex?

[heady terrace]

ill be keeping an eye out then

[heady terrace]

no

[placid marten]

Yea its a shocker

Fun exists

[placid marten]

Fuck

[vernal glen]

[native crest]

There'll be a discord announcement when(if) it is made official 👍

[candid jackal]

#discord-announcements

[rustic bridge]

literally

[candid jackal]

there is an announcement about it

[placid marten]

Tru is sowing confusion

its an elaborate plan

To eat the admins

[native crest]

Bro why are my discord notifications so ass

[candid jackal]

which brings me to my next question

[native crest]

Scammers messed me up man

[heady terrace]

skill issue on my part for not checking announcements

[rustic bridge]

disqualified

[sullen silo]

honestly its my bad i shoulda given more heads up to mods about this lol

[vernal glen]

+10s penalty to your time

[sullen silo]

i figured it was lowkey enough that it wasnt needed

[drifting citrus]

imma be honest: i do think an @ everyone would be deserved here

[sullen silo]

yeah?

[drifting citrus]

yea why not

[sullen silo]

im not even gonna pretend actually

[drifting citrus]

honest competition

for fun

[rustic bridge]

Better yet ping everyone individually

[candid jackal]

Two teams get sub 11, you're trying to be the third - what happens if i get a sub 11 run at 11:55am GMT and have to wait until 1pm GMT to submit it due to slow upload speed on the vod, while someone else gets a sub 11 run at 12:30pm GMT, it uploads in 10 minutes and they submit it before I do

Which team gets the point? The ones who were first to the goal or the ones who were first to the google form?

[placid marten]

This sounds scary

[sullen silo]

yeah

unlike you guys i actually have the power to do it

[drifting citrus]

people who complain about @ everyone s can seethe and cope to getting one red letter

[placid marten]

Wdym submit

you can send the screenshot

[rustic bridge]

also logs

[placid marten]

Also logs exist

[rustic bridge]

tell time

[candid jackal]

send which screenshot where

[placid marten]

This discord

[drifting citrus]

media, like every other world record

and also logs work too

[placid marten]

I feel like soy isnt legally blind

[rustic bridge]

we gotta check that

[placid marten]

@sullen silo right?

[glass cradle]

its already been changed from first 3 anyways no?

[placid marten]

I think so yea

[rustic bridge]

yeah

[placid marten]

Now the question is whether tru will ever get discord notifs again

[sullen silo]

im getting too many pings my focus is being split

[rustic bridge]

just not reflected in the discord announcement

[heady terrace]

sent you a dm

[rustic bridge]

lurker admin??????

[candid jackal]

in local time zone, what do you make of that when something reads 19:55 but is GMT+8 and another run reads 14:55 and is GMT-8
The GMT+8 came first but it reads differently

[vernal glen]

pls use gtfo-media for its intended purpose only, double kills with melee

[heady terrace]

???

[candid jackal]

how do you interpret it without knowing the timezone of whoever submits

[rustic bridge]

ask

[drifting citrus]

give me perms to @ everyone, ill do it and accept that ill never get the bbc rank ever

[rustic bridge]

this shit is not going to be this complicated

[candid jackal]

get a new bit

[rustic bridge]

just post your endscreen screenshot in media when you get it

[drifting citrus]

fun fact: logs are not your local timezone

[placid marten]

very difficult endeavour

[drifting citrus]

fun fact: if they were you would doxx yourself by posting logs

[rustic bridge]

huge

[drifting citrus]

at least country/region

[candid jackal]

doxx myself how?

you couldn't tell apart if I was living in Birmingham or the Algarve in Portugal

[placid marten]

tbf logs actually doxxed people for… a few days

it got patched tho

[delicate flare]

oh no they gonna see i live in yucatan

[drifting citrus]

except any country that does summer time where u can get doxxed by the timeframe. Or any country that has a non standard integer difference to UTC

[sullen silo]

honestly thats a good point

and tbh i dont have a good solution

[vernal glen]

[sullen silo]

for that or the issue of timezones

there isnt a way to really make it fair for everyone to have time to do it

[placid marten]

Its a non issue as described by tgb
That + screenshot post in media

Tho the easiest solution is anyone who gets sub 11 gets special role.

fixes it outright

[rustic bridge]

yeah wasnt it just everyone who gets a sub 11 gets a role?

instead of first 3

[sullen silo]

Even if i delay the competition for a week or so, so people know in advance to get ready but even then people would have to ruin sleep schedules

[sullen silo]

yeah that came to mind

[rustic bridge]

also gives incentive to not play 24/7

[sullen silo]

but i wasnt sure if people would be mad that it suddenly isnt as exclusive

[placid marten]

I dont think people would mind

Its mostly for fun and likely you wont see many get sub 11

[native crest]

It was a See a bunch of unread notifications for this server > Check notification list > @ moderators > scammer sigh > mark as unread moment

[rustic bridge]

sub 11 is not an easy run to get

[urban nest]

i mean

[placid marten]

Oh shit right

[urban nest]

WR is 11 20 rn tbf

[placid marten]

Im actually so sry tru xD

i do immediatly go at moderators

[placid marten]

Ya

[rustic bridge]

?

[placid marten]

sub 11 is doable
but not free

[urban nest]

exactly

[native crest]

It is the correct thing to do, dw

[placid marten]

And if like 20 people decide to omega grind
let em have the reward (imo)

[placid marten]

But my 50$ :(

[urban nest]

me when i don't get ven at last class 6

[drifting citrus]

Imma be honest, having 12 or 20 people with special role wouldn't be an issue

[placid marten]

Its only 1.3 sec

[urban nest]

in quad?

[placid marten]

yes

[candid jackal]

i guess i forgot to say earlier, i feel it unfair to call this channel a hotbed for scamming when the bots/compromised accounts post in... every channel that exists in this server

[urban nest]

aight not too bad then

[placid marten]

6.7 vs 8 sec

4 vs 2

[drifting citrus]

Keep in mind u gotta leave early for door

[placid marten]

Yea

That was already brought up
I think its mostly the activity + actual server stuff

[drifting citrus]

Adds slightly more

But not much

[placid marten]

yes

but scan position matters more there

scan can be all across the room

[sullen silo]

Okay the descriptions in the announcement and the form have been updated to say anyone getting a run under 11 mintes will be awarded the special role

[wind cliff]

Based

[rustic bridge]

HUGE

Best admin

[wind cliff]

I mean

No issue with soy but

Like they waste my time before work because they don’t play

GTFO

[sullen silo]

yeah my bad

forgor about my vpn

[candid jackal]

@sullen silo time to torment you more

so there's no distinction made as to how many players should be in the lobby, do you want to impose a limit on that or let there be an option to try for the sub 16 as duo? (trio runs are boring we don't mention trio)

[sullen silo]

uhh

is there any advantage from running less people compared to just having 4?

if not then i see no issue with it

[candid jackal]

the advantage is that you don't have to put up with as many people (if someone is insufferable) or find as many players

but the run is significantly harder and there is absolutely 0 gameplay advantage

[sullen silo]

yeah thats fine then

[candid jackal]

sick

[glass cradle]

based

[wind cliff]

I am so sad chill

[glass cradle]

why

[wind cliff]

Because depression

And I want to buff the moving scan level again

[drifting citrus]

With the r3d1 speed trials here's a tool to help with dealing with logs: https://github.com/Tgb03/Logger/releases/tag/1.1.1 . With this there is no need to deal with looking for logs for finding key. I am unfortunately unable to make a tutorial rn, but i will make one when i get home from uni.

[drifting citrus]

If anyone has any questions, simply DM me, I will do my best to explain as soon as I can

[old trench]

[drifting citrus]

https://youtu.be/rvlCpxyXw_k tutorial is made

[candid jackal]

has anyone managed a good run yet or is it just chill/ray/hani/beth as far as anyone knows

[sullen silo]

if anyone has they havent submitted it

[rustic bridge]

We haven’t started running yet

[sullen silo]

smh no commitment

should have started running as soon as the competition started

/s

[rustic bridge]

Give me a trip to Sweden and I would have already put 12 hours into this

[sullen silo]

If a trip to Sweden was on the table I would’ve already cheated my own run

I mean, I would have practiced for hours to get a good run

[rustic bridge]

Jokes on you ive sent a 266 petabyte zip bomb to ur dms

[placid marten]

im sorry im sick and have work

[sullen silo]

Quit

[rustic bridge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3166671266

Guide with all keymaps

[sullen silo]

Congrats to @rustic bridge @placid marten @radiant hemlock and @drifting citrus for being the first to submit a sub 16 minute run

now i actually have to make the role for them smh

[rustic bridge]

LESGOOOO

[candid jackal]

zzzz

[placid marten]

the 11:23 run in the corner

[rustic bridge]

okay have no fun

[placid marten]

[candid jackal]

ya

[sullen silo]

this one? #gtfo-media message

[candid jackal]

mhm

[rustic bridge]

not submitted. deleted banned from speedrunning

[covert cypress]

we probs only submit when we get sub 11

[unreal spindle]

I have a feeling they want to submit only a sub 11

[covert cypress]

ye

[radiant hemlock]

LETS GOOOOO

[covert cypress]

I wasn’t recording that run anyway I don’t think

[radiant hemlock]

am i officially a speed runner now? 😌

[placid marten]

[sullen silo]

the role has been granted

idk if ill keep the name as what it is cuz its a mouthfull