#gtfo-lore

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analog frigate
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spitters seem to gather up the fog and use it as a weapon

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also the colour of the toxic fog and spitters is quite similar

burnt wren
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I'm not sure they spitting fog

peak frigate
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Speaking from memory cuz Idr well, there isnt a stage where spitters are present but toxic gas isnt

burnt wren
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More like they spit acquired residue from the fog

analog frigate
burnt wren
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Also actually

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What the fuck are spitters anyway

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Alien life that broke through somehow? Or same species as sleepers?

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They are way too weird and we don't find them often.

peak frigate
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Likely a different mutation where the gas is involved but dunno if same species as sleepers

analog frigate
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they probably are the same species or at least closely related due to the sleepers not being attacked by them

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they also share physical characteristics like the colour of the skin and veins

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for why they are even a thing, i don't know

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maybe outgrowths or somehow a self spreading species

peak frigate
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Why they are stationary on walls too

analog frigate
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no idea

peak frigate
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And not found on ground level

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Has to be elevated at all times

analog frigate
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maybe not to interfere with sleepers

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i don't know how they work within the sleeper hive-like species

peak frigate
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Oh yea

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Well due to that its impossible to tell if spitters and sleepers are hostile towards eachother

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Maybe spitters are on walls cuz they avoid sleepers

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An unlikely theory but

analog frigate
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well they definitely don't attack sleepers

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even when our characters are undetected but sleepers run through to get to us

graceful token
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Well

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Fog is most likely a bioaerosol, yes?

cobalt mulch
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its funny that u can immerse 95% of your body into fog and no infection, but once your mouth/nose crosses the treshold, the sizzling begins

graceful token
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Honestly

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Looking at the breathing apparatus of our KSOs I wouldn't call them airtight

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Especially with clamps on some of them

eternal talon
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its kind of funny, one of the ruled out theories was the one that was confirmed

analog frigate
graceful token
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Yeah

analog frigate
graceful token
eternal talon
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let me get the log

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its one of the new ones

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i pinged you and everything daraxus

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it was like half a week ago

analog frigate
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yeah well people aren't always available

eternal talon
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well yeah i get that..

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i just figured you'd eventually have gotten to the ping

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i dunno

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1 sec

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this log. @rocky wraith was talking about it with "fomites" and it being airborne for 2 weeks and other stuff that is way over my pay grade

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analog frigate
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i believe that is talking about NAM-V

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and is why dauda blames himself for what has happened

eternal talon
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well, both. but yes

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the section in question is nam-v

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nam-v particulates in the fog is what makes the infection

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for whatever reason

analog frigate
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then the odd part is how it even hurts our characters

eternal talon
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i pinged him so he should be here whenever (hopefully) to talk to you about it

analog frigate
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we can't die from it straight up

eternal talon
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since as i said, i dont know shit about this kind of thing

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oh hey

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while im in the channel rn,

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do you have pics of alpha two?

analog frigate
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nope

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haven't gotten much time to play gtfo

eternal talon
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we go back there in r7 and i wanted to see how much it had changed

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beanz and me think the crystals have grown and increased in number

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but i dont have a pic to compare to

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the cave we pass in r6b1 is also blocked by charger biomass

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harsh saffron
analog frigate
eternal talon
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hm. i honestly cant tell

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Chargers are just deep fried sleepers right?

analog frigate
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it would take only a small nest to form for it to completely get infested but how did that get there in the first place

burnt wren
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And we have hints that time on that planet goes faster

eternal talon
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we also go to a completely new biome on Destination, like the Sahara or something.

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analog frigate
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they are known to have evolved separately from the ones in destination

burnt wren
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So, If people on planet got infected - the time it took between R6 and R7 was enough for sleepers to chargefy.

eternal talon
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we do see infected humans both in the Sahara biome above as well, which is no where near anywhere we have been before.

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not even the mountains match up

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and we did see infected humans in r6.5bx and dx

analog frigate
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i think i have an idea on how the chargers got there

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maybe they were infected in the first place and then fully mutated once they stayed there for some time

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then first thing a hive species does is create a nest

burnt wren
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That's what I was trying to say

analog frigate
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ah

eternal talon
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there is a lot of them there and there was no sign of anything other than floaters anywhere at all in b1

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wonder why they gathered there

eternal talon
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since we know the date of r3

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and the wrdn twitter announces the dates rundowns come out and is cannon

burnt wren
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Also - the goddamn black crystals.

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They look too similar to whatever is going on with chargers.

eternal talon
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we know the black crystals enable the teleporting though, as seen with the floaters

burnt wren
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Inb4 teleporting chargers

eternal talon
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they are already fast enough...

eternal talon
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temper, temper.

rocky wraith
eternal talon
rocky wraith
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Yee, so the toxic fog is caused by nam-v on suspended particulates

eternal talon
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what is "suspended fogs"

rocky wraith
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I was watching a vid while writing

livid grotto
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Omg omg omg its the best lore guy

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CoolBeanz himself

eternal talon
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i dont understand you

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is it sarcasm or genuine?

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i can never tell

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if sarcasm, that is a bit rude.

livid grotto
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Why blocking people when you still read their messages

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And ofc it’s not sarcasm, it is a known fact CoolBeanz is the coolest dude in the lore channel

eternal talon
rocky wraith
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MaitrePatate himself

radiant cedar
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Not sure if this is a joke or if you are trying to help him but this isn't the right place to do that

past matrix
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sowwy 👉👈

torn nova
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Has anyone compiled a timeline of the events at garganta? I just went through all the logs on the wiki and I think someone, perhaps myself, should put together a detailed timeline listing all relevant logs in chronological order. It might help some of the newer players who want to understand what is going on in the lore of the game

livid grotto
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You can always do it, but yes I think duck did a timeline

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I suggest you to watch it, great vid

torn nova
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Oooh I’ll definitely give that a watch. Thanks for the tip

quick grove
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Done watchin it ay

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Pretty good

quaint ember
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anyone else notice the symbolism of the uterus after you insert the baby?

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austere jungle
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what is the cfoam symbolism of

solar nova
dim scroll
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Hey, can anybody explain to me what the teleporter in E1 (behind the apex door) is supposed to imply please ?

zenith zealot
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that you can teleport

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👍

quick grove
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Pretty much what he said ^

burnt wren
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At the very least that they have multiple teleports

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Anyway... I heard about Hendrikson Chad moment. What was it again?

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Have you guys had any talk of the C1 white room?

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With what looks like a... Glass containment in the middle?

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Any idea what happened there?

torn nova
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i'll take a look when i have time

cobalt mulch
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i kinda assumed it's something to do with the jerry, broke out, had some fun

burnt wren
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It sure appears that way, doesn't it?

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It almost implies that they bred it or something...

eternal talon
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and that thought was shattered

burnt wren
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I mean just because there's multiple doesn't change the setup of the room

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Maybe they multiplied or something

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Unless devs are hinting at something far worse, but it's way too vague and obscure.

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And also just straight up misleading.

dim scroll
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Seriously can you at least develop by maybe saying in what sector it'll teleport ?

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Maybe explaining why the teleporter is there with the immortal ?

teal urchin
burnt wren
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People beaten it

fossil lotus
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In D2 you can see the security system tries to activate the "hide and seek" module

burnt wren
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Some people have too much skill and too much time to spare

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... And reliable teammates.

teal urchin
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Because my teammates are usually a group of drunks (literally, they are drunk while playing) who shared one brain cell. Only competent guy I routinely play with is @valid heart

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Also, where is that tentacle thing from the trailer? Which expedition is that?

dim scroll
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When you're used to much harder levels (+ boosters), that E1 is a joke

dim scroll
burnt wren
dim scroll
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It appears in several levels after this one

teal urchin
# burnt wren C1

🎵and I’m on my way… THE BLOOD MOON IS ON THE RISE, THE FIRE BURNING IN MY EYES. NO, NOBODY BUT ME CAN KEEP ME SAFE, AND I’M ON MY WAY🎵

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Sorry

burnt wren
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Heh

subtle verge
sick radish
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teleporting works how

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lore wise

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???

subtle verge
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We don't exactly know how it works, that's never explained to us. We have a truckload of theories regarding it through real-world quantum mechanics or sci-fi theory and other kinds of mathematics.

burnt wren
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Irrelevant

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No scifi fiction should ever try explaining teleportation

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It just works, end of story

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All they need is the writing tool to make it possible

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In this case its a random black crystal in a jar

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Good enough

graceful token
sick radish
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i think they got dr stranges ring

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the teleporting one

fallen spindle
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stole portal gun from valve

graceful token
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Another resonance cascade

eternal talon
# sick radish lore wise

allen technology. far more advanced stuff than anything humans have. so it doesn't really matter

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if the devs knew how it worked, well we would be colonizing the stars, rather than playing GTFO

harsh saffron
rocky wraith
past matrix
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I'm under the impression it was the Snatcher in there

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it would make the most sense, anyways

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snatcher breaks out, kills a bunch of scientists, escapes, more are created (either breeding or reproduction or whatever or there's several already in the area)

graceful token
eternal talon
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though still, my primary reasoning is that we encounter dozens of them, and there is only one tank

eternal talon
graceful token
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Ooh, you mean like this

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Hmm, idk

past matrix
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what if the morse code banging in r4b1 was actually the immortal tank

eternal talon
past matrix
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yes

jade scaffold
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Has anyone else realized just how badly designed The Facility is? Like from a workspace standpoint, it'd be miserable place to work. Staircases to nowhere, areas with carts and crates but no ramps or elevators, supply crates and storage lockers in random places, doors that lead to nowhere, labs in weird corners, no bathrooms.

And then god forbid you have to perform a security scan at a T-level security door and now you're stuck having to walk slowly through the office and labs as the security scan finishes. haha 🤣

burnt wren
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The only real issue I see is lack of bathrooms

cobalt mulch
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before the lockdown it mightve been easier but u right.. sooo many dead ends and one bucket to share :)

burnt wren
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And I'm fairly certain this is not how scans are supposed to work.

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Ours are either gameplay only or broken.

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I saw that

livid grotto
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No proof, I am a normal person

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Anyways it’s obvious that it’s only for gameplay wise bruh

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Same thing for closets, packs, etc

burnt wren
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The first scan we do is normal, the one right at the door.

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I can accept it working like that.

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It's other 4 that are the problem

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There is however an issues with certain rooms looking exactly the same.

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I imagine many a worker got lost

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Also there is a depressing lack of living quarters.

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We know that they exist, one of the logs mentioned one.

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But I want to actually see some.

cobalt mulch
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the amount of memes and shenanigans that would exist where someone lured or tricked enemies into a bathroom or found a sleeping striker head in a toilet bowl... 🤣

rocky wraith
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places that lead to nowhere are probably due to expected future expansion

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so there is nothing there "yet"

jade scaffold
burnt wren
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Eh, it's not that bad really...

jade scaffold
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My thing is the carts and crates and wheeled shelves in areas with no ramps or elevators.

burnt wren
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At least we know 10c would be horrible house builders.

cobalt mulch
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good point, how did those get here... a big ass construction vehicle in mining, no way it was driven there... etc

burnt wren
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Left 4 dead wins once again.

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Toilets absolutely everywhere.

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Still king

cobalt mulch
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duke3d toilet. mirrors. yes.

burnt wren
rocky wraith
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Also note that there is another type of heavy door which most people glance right past not recognising it is a door

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actually 2 of them

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Eg, R6C1 all the vehicles there can get in through those big access doors

wanton fossil
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Still need me one of those massive slanted elevator lifts in one of the levels. Would explain how they got everything down into the facility, and would also be a neat gameplay bit

livid grotto
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^

burnt wren
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We can always claim that elevators are hidden behind permadoors

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And yes R6C1 had giant access doors everywhere.

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The entire facility is still in quarantine, don't forget.

rocky wraith
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Also consider the number of doors that were probably welded shut as part of quarantine protocols

burnt wren
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R6A1 had lots of tunnels that either were not excavated... Or intentionally detonated.

wanton fossil
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the facility seems like it wasn't even finished expanding, which really speaks of the scale of whatever this whole project was and the things they discovered

sweet wigeon
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just finished d2, does anyone wanna elaborate on wtf that last room was, it looked cool but i wasn’t able to get a good look due to the “circumstances” of the level

past matrix
sweet wigeon
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yes

past matrix
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that's the mainframe of Biocom

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which is connected to the Warden

sweet wigeon
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that explains why they inserted the trojan

pseudo kelp
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I wonder how's life outside of the complex. Or at least on the surface of it. Are there people operating watching us go down into the hell pit? Do they put the weapons onto us? Or do is the entire thing automated by the Warden?

burnt wren
# pseudo kelp I wonder how's life outside of the complex. Or at least on the surface of it. Ar...

High chance its automated. Death rates nam-v are insane and our infrastructure cannot fight against it.
The way we live In the big cities ensures that we get immunity to any viruses eventually, but it's just not the case with nam-v. Shit kills, and that's that while being the most infectious virus In history.

There's a high chance outside world has completely fallen apart. 90% are dead, the rest are scattered. And considering that garganta is the source - I have high doubts anyone has managed to survive. Unless they locked themselves in air-tight facilities with decades worth supply of good.

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Although there's a small chance they give orders to it remotely from a secured location as well.

rich blaze
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Have you guys seen the SPOILERS E1 ||Dauda written log|| yet?

dull orchid
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no

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im still anxiously waiting for a1 logs xD

lofty cave
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what is the deal with the baby in this rundown?

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why is it in stasis unit and why do we need to open it

dim scroll
eternal talon
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Me and beanz found it and were going over it for nearly an hour

eternal talon
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casually confirming the allens created the virus and it isnt natural, confirms what the toxic fog in the facility is, gives us more info on the parasites than we have ever had before, and more

eternal talon
# past matrix which is connected to the Warden

you have that backwards. also i don't think this is THE mainframe, just a side one or data bank or something. schaeffer talks about having to backdoor it and i dont think he'd be dumb enough to go the source

burnt wren
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Shit, I didn't even realized it was written by Dauda. Didn't pay attention to signature.

dim scroll
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But yeah this is a very interesting log

burnt wren
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My man simps for a virus

subtle verge
# pseudo kelp I wonder how's life outside of the complex. Or at least on the surface of it. Ar...

To give more context to what Artek was stating: we have a State of Truth log that gives some idea of how the topside is doing. The radio host goes to say that the census report from 2050 had the US at 474 million people. In 2053 when the CONDAM report was released, the estimated population was at 302 million people -- so in the US alone, that's roughly 157,000 deaths per day over a three year period. Keep in mind that, with 99.9% certainty, the entirety of the world (each country) is afflicted with NAM-V. Doing quick napkin math, and assuming every country has the same death rate, that's approximately 37% of the world's population gone over a three year period.

south lake
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Which - bioweapon theory aside - makes sense for an alien pathogen. Not the worst case scenario for something like that, but pretty damn close as the immune system would either be too weak to fight it off, or wouldn't know how to

burnt wren
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Artak?....ShooterUok

subtle verge
south lake
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That's a mood

burnt wren
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Actually laughing

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You almost renamed me into a warframe weapon

south lake
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Coffee and sinus meds, in my case.

subtle verge
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Could have been worse, or better, with GRAKATA.

Back on point: yeah, €deon, that's far better than what the original calculation was about 6 months or so back with what little we knew back then.

south lake
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Yeah, everything I've ever read on stuff like that pretty much implied that if an alien pathogen were to ever get on Earth somehow and didn't immediately die out, we'd probably be fucked as a species

safe hound
south lake
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Anything able to survive atmo re-entry plus not be so weakened as to immediately fail to get a foothold planetside would probably be some kind of horrendous alien supervirus

subtle verge
solar nova
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Tbf, the scarier a disease is the more likely people are to panic.

burnt wren
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Exactly

south lake
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..Usually.

burnt wren
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The issues with C was lack of corpses in the streets and rivers of blood

solar nova
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Westerners don't like lockdowns, but if literally everyone is fucking dying ain't nobody going outside (probably).

south lake
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There's also the fact that what passes for modern medicine on our world might be totally ineffective on an alien pathogen

subtle verge
burnt wren
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If even Mr. Alex Jones 2.0 on TSOT says that everyone's fucked, then it's real bad

south lake
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Like, when it comes to viruses we're actually incredibly fragile

burnt wren
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Eh, had a few

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Not bad ones though

solar nova
burnt wren
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Either way. I wanna do some pathetic math here...
37% died in 3 years.
That should be about 12% a year.

How many US citizens are left? 300 mil?

south lake
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That's assuming even distribution, which it more than likely isn't

burnt wren
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I'll round it to 10% for ease of calculations

south lake
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For all we know some countries have fallen before others

burnt wren
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Nah, Im too lazy

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Too much math

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But honestly it doesn't seem that bad

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Unless death rates spiked instead of going down

south lake
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Punk did say something about 100% lethality rate.

burnt wren
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Not what I was trying to say

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Using the data from that log, if we assume that 3 year death rate stays the same - that's still almost 100 mil in USA left by 2065

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Unless it just got worse

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And escalated

south lake
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If the bioweapon theory is correct, it might have

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AFAIK we don't know how long it lingers in more populated areas

burnt wren
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If the population becomes more sparse - shouldn't the virus have issues spreading further?

south lake
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Depends on if it's mobile in open air or not.

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Pockets of infection with certain viruses can "waft", for lack of a better term

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That would - in theory - increase the distance the virus can travel to infect an individual, IE if someone coughed or sneezed, and a draft caught it

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I don't remember if we have any viruses that are transmissible VIA the big three (land/water/air)

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But if NAM-V is, that would also dramatically increase the range of infection

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And if it's jumped species, anyone who kept animals would.be at extreme risk

burnt wren
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To potentially infinite I presume?

south lake
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Theoretically

burnt wren
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Not a single log mentioned animals so far...

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Goldie doesn't count, was never real

south lake
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If standard methods of sanitization don't work on NAM-V, that would have dire implications as well

eternal talon
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also i dunno how you guys never mentioned

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NATO broke up

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in 2054 because of nam-v

burnt wren
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Haven't seen that one yet

eternal talon
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i've got it. 1 sec

burnt wren
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Where is it.

eternal talon
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1 sec

south lake
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Time to go get that coffee and meds.

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Later.

eternal talon
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going through my screenshots

burnt wren
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C2 or something?

eternal talon
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looks like either a b1 or c1 log, since its in that date range in my files of when i was clearing levels

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though it could be any really

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my screenshot folder on steam is a mess

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Brutal stuff.

eternal talon
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for humanity,

burnt wren
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Everyone going into aggressive hyper quarantine is kinda funny though

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I guess TSOT will as correct - go for the hills

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Hopefully no one will shoot you there

eternal talon
burnt wren
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The State Of Truth, shortened

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I guess I can drop the O

eternal talon
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ah

burnt wren
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TST sounds better anywah

eternal talon
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i would have just gone with SOT

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so yeah no way i was gonna get that

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lol

burnt wren
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They should hire artists

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Make images and put them into logs

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Imagine getting a fucked jpg of average American Street in some random log

south lake
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TST is also the acronym of a certain organization, just FYI. TSOT is probably better for clarity's sake.

burnt wren
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Huh? Never heard of it.

south lake
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I would mention it, but I don't want to break any rules on that front, if possible. Google is your friend, in this case.

eternal talon
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ah

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religion

south lake
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Yes, but no.

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For the reason above, I'll explain in the sense of "It's complicated"

burnt wren
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Goggle gave many answers

eternal talon
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which is why i said religion, not a religion, but whatevs

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anyway

burnt wren
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Although only one caught my eye

eternal talon
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hm?

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oh

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yeah

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🐐

burnt wren
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Heh.

past matrix
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like several times LOL

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Well, I think there’s a way to hijack one of the systems the Warden uses. There’s a terminal at the mainframe that probably isn't routed through network security.

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We can’t just upload it from anywhere. We have to be at the terminal.
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We have to bypass the network and the only way to do that is at the mainframe!

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It has to be a machine directly patched into the mainframe. Not through a network connection - through a host bus adapter.
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Unless the Warden hsa a reason to go to the mainframe, like something breaks and needs fixing, we ‘ll just have to wait and hope they get a stack update that takes them there.

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The door I just opened leads to the mainframe. Everything else is in their hands.

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i also don't see how i have that backwards

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it's directly called the "BIOCOM Mainframe"

finite vine
pearl wave
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how would something effectively impossible to occur naturally occur naturally that easily?

burnt wren
# finite vine that doesn’t really sound like enough evidence to confirm the aliens made NAM-V,...

I think it does. The virus is exceptionally aggressive, by all known standards. The kind of aggressive that doesn't happen naturally.

Aggressive viruses die out or evolve to be less lethal, because making your host go extinct is bad for further reproduction, it turns out.
But nam-v doesn't care, and is single-mindedly tracked on absolutely culling everything it touches. There's 99% chance that this is intentional design, and not a giant "fuck you" from evolution.

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Destination dwellers would be universe's most unlucky species to have a virus like that appear naturally.

eternal talon
eternal talon
eternal talon
burnt wren
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That's the part where man should bold the "... It appears" part

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As in, Dauda is making an assumption based on evidence.

past matrix
eternal talon
finite vine
eternal talon
burnt wren
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100% mortality rate.

eternal talon
finite vine
burnt wren
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We don't need to know anything else.

finite vine
burnt wren
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One-hundred-fucking-percent.

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No other virus does that, ever.

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Because then you cause your hosts to go extinct.

eternal talon
burnt wren
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And oh shit you went extinct with them.

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Galaxy brain virus.

eternal talon
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oh mb 2053

finite vine
eternal talon
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and the game is 2063...

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everyone is ded

finite vine
eternal talon
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9yr < 10yr

finite vine
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the only people left alive are kso’s

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(i’m being sarcastic)

eternal talon
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for i was there when it was written

burnt wren
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Well to be fair

finite vine
burnt wren
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There is a chance someone still alive

eternal talon
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so, canonically then,

finite vine
eternal talon
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the world is 110% dead

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cool

eternal talon
finite vine
eternal talon
burnt wren
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Not even that

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The log that gave us numbers

finite vine
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also not to mention that kovac literally knew a way to stop NAM-V

burnt wren
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Assuming the death rate does not escalate I calculated on fingers that by 2065 there still should be at least 100 mil in USA

finite vine
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and they had scientists doing tests on NAM-V years before anyone else did

burnt wren
finite vine
burnt wren
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Because I'm not sure that it's... Viable.

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Yeah, we'll survive. But at what cost?

finite vine
burnt wren
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And it's not even a way to stop it, only to delay.

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We can't put humanity into HSUs forever.

eternal talon
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since we have two dates, and infected population, and a death total

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its complicated math but still math

finite vine
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we don’t know when each person was infected

eternal talon
#

for a rough estimate of upper and lower bounds it wouldnt really matter

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i doubt we'd get an exact number unless from a log anyway

burnt wren
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We do have a date when it broke out right?

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Just use that as "best case scenario".

eternal talon
#

and we have the log when it got into garganta

burnt wren
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That these people got infected there on day 1.

eternal talon
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because of the two scientists

finite vine
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true. the odd thing is not one log has been released talking about/ describing NAM-V deaths in the complex

eternal talon
#

we have plenty of logs of people going insane

subtle verge
south lake
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The HSUs likely only stop the progression of the virus because while interred in an HSU, your bodily functions are effectively zero, meaning you're practically dead, which I don't think any virus can function off of.

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And while it's an effective - albeit questionable - solution, there's still the problem of reinfection.

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Shoving everyone in HSUs wouldn't really do anything to stop NAM-V, I feel

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Because the virus has already proven its longevity by staying dormant within the Fossil for however many millions of years

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If there weren't any human life for it to infect anymore, it could either jump species or go dormant again. The chances of that, I feel, would be dramatically higher if not guaranteed if it's indeed a bioweapon.

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And it would be incredibly easy for it to go dormant and remain undisturbed in dusty old ruins and such, if the remnants humanity were shoved into a bunch of HSUs

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At least until they woke up and - quite literally - kicked it back up into the air, disturbing it and kickstarting (pun intended) the process again

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So assuming it is indeed designed to go dormant when idle, Earth's pretty much fucked

subtle verge
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Somewhat reminds me of the viruses that we're finding in the permafrost; those that have lied dormant and are slowly making their way back into the ecosystem.

finite vine
south lake
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That sounds more like Kovac talk for "We can use HSUs to assassinate security risks if we so choose"

dense saffron
mild warren
#

Can't wait for the Schaeffer vs Warden punch on

south lake
drowsy furnace
#

i thought the chip was the one that wrecks one's memory

south lake
#

Nope, as the Red Alpha mission (flight to Mars) hit disaster when the astronauts got out of their HSUs and knew fuckall about flying a shuttle in space, and ended up crashing into the planet.

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At least, IIRC that's how it went

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The astronauts weren't KSOs and had no cortex implant

finite vine
south lake
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That's probably still not a factor to NAM-V, which is inside its host specifically. Bacteriophages replicate VIA bacteria, which is typically "external" (IE in your intestine, on your skin, etc. rather than in your bloodstream) AFAIR

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That and, if you have bacteria in your bloodstream, your immune system would probably be pitching the mother of all bitchfits

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Usually sepsis if the system's flooded with it, which is uh.. very much no bueno

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AFAIK NAM-V is airborne and doesn't rely on bacteria for reproduction, unless I've missed a log

finite vine
#

I wish i could find the log

eternal talon
#

there is no bacteriophage or anything related to bacteria mentioned anywhere afik

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it's always been a virus. its always been a parasite.

eternal talon
#

its dabbled in just about everything

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like a game of plague inc

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except this one actually did manage to reach all continents

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//March 14, 2053: Although the virus has currently only been detected in the United States, Mexico, and the United Kingdom, there is a 90% probability that the virus is present in all continents.//

eternal talon
# finite vine I wish i could find the log

i found it https://www.notion.so/ab68b94496bd4b27bec291de65ebd510?v=9c98784771d740f3b605ff63763b4963&p=7801f4dff5364c6e997e91540a4b74b5

Chase's Notion on Notion
pathogens influencing the BAT results

D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.exec_branch/AKleinA106.flagged

Angela,

I don't see how pathogens could be influencing the BAT results to be honest. The assessments are carried out after at least 5 days in HS recovery, and very few organisms will survive suspended animation for more than a few days without a finely tune...

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it says // **When we introduce positive bacteriophage we have to stimulate them constantly or they won't survive even a few hours in HS. This is without considering the counteragents and neutralizers we use in the amniotic plasma. ** //

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so while i was wrong about not mentioning bacteriophage, its not related to nam-v or anything, its something Kovac introduced to test their HSUs to see if pathogens or anything else could survive HSU stays, as elaborated on in the above part of the log

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//I don't see how pathogens could be influencing the BAT results to be honest. The assessments are carried out after at least 5 days in HS recovery, and very few organisms will survive suspended animation for more than a few days without a finely tuned subsistence strategy to keep them alive.//

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because of this, the final line of the log seems most likely to be Kovac being arrogant about the results of their tests, as they didn't test NAM-V, but other plagues they probably had easier access to in sterile lab conditions

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//Any behavioral issues you are seeing are psychological, not biological. Nothing survives HS unless we want it to.//

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hope i was of help! oh, and here if your ping @finite vine if you have your message response pings turned off

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might as well ping @south lake since this was your guys' conversation

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cheers! o7

finite vine
eternal talon
#

does anybody have a list of ALL r7 logs?

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i am putting the finishing touches on GTFO-LORE FOR DUMMIES v3 and want to see if i missed any

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(only logs that have dates pls)

solar nova
#

Will when I get more downtime, which should be pretty soon.

sick oak
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I wonder how long after the incident the game takes place. It might be a very long time indeed

eternal talon
#

i could tell you exactly.

finite vine
eternal talon
finite vine
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Yea, but in the sense where u can make a timeline using when the tweets were posted. that seems kinda far fetched.

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I remember you talking about how u guys figured out when the rundowns took place. I’m kinda skeptical about your method ngl.

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Is that how u guys did it again? I could be remembering incorrectly.

eternal talon
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since r3 is 2063

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using that we get rough dates

eternal talon
#

or at least i didnt

past matrix
past matrix
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really the only thing we have years-wise is a log where the Warden calculates how long it'll take to grow a neonate iirc and that seems to be after R3

eternal talon
#

@shut mountain Would you kindly please replace the 📌 of the previous "FOR DUMMIES" document with this one? This file has been updated with lore received in RUNDOWN 7.

📎 GTFO_Lore_For_Dummies_V3.txt
shut mountain
eternal talon
#

ty

shut mountain
eternal talon
#

this file took forever. it's just getting chunkier and chunkier every update

shut mountain
#

Really consider making a google document tbh. Especially if it keeps getting bigger, it can become a lot more easier to manage, to make sections...etc.

#

WoodsPraise I cant wait to start collecting the logs into my archives with clips as well, but Im about to travel abroad for like 2-3 months so it might take a while for me to do that lmaooo

eternal talon
#

ah, it's fine. i have every file saved separately and really most of it is just adding to it,Ii only had to edit 4-5 sections to add in new information, I believe

shut mountain
#

Did we have any lore related change between updates, like the board stuff last Rundown or nay this time around?

eternal talon
#

not that i have noticed

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though i haven't given many of the levels a re-run

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my first place to check would be the terminal in D2 though

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if something would change

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since it is the only log we have that isnt on a terminal, but on a terminal. if that makes sense

burnt wren
#

I'd call it "on a screen"

eternal talon
shut mountain
#

🙏 Will hopefully will be able to play and collect stuff abroad, pray that my laptop can handle GTFO

eternal talon
#

ending part of c1 and most of d1 especially

shut mountain
#

I'm more so worried about the ram crash issue rn, cause my laptop only has 8Gigs. But dont wanna talk about it more here to keep the channel to lore so uuuuuhhhh, I wonder how Schaeffer looks like

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Does he still have his mask or nay? Or does he take it on and off, risking himself constantly. Cause he does eat

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We have seen cans of food being open in last rundown extension in his little shack

eternal talon
#

in person

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we hear him over the PA in almost every level

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but its still just over the PA

shut mountain
#

Yeee, but do you guys have any headcanon as how he could look like? thinkvivec Like just fun stuff on how you imagine him looking like

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Dude is probably skinny and dried up, but if he still has the strength to kill people, even with tools he should not be in that bad of a shape for now, even with him more than likely having the virus

burnt wren
#

From his voice I imagine him looking like middle aged man, either bald or with very short hair. Basically you average plumber as how I imagine him. Mario without the moustache.

rocky wraith
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Middle aged, toned and fit from being a pit boss but a bit plumper in the middle due to management position. Lack of sunlight turned his skin ashen and now all the stuff in HSU's, I reckon he has lost that weight and is more skinny, unkept, beard, lack of care to hygiene due to lacking supplies and mental instability

cyan arrow
#

A beard would mess with face PPE, I'd assume he'd trim enough to still get a seal on a mask, if he has a beard he'd be so infected.

devout geyser
#

i bet schaeffer is hot

astral flax
#

xD

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love that sentence

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and when he does the accent

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my god

#

juicy

burnt wren
#

The C1 hacker bit was pretty funny

#

Hendrikson knows how to get hired

onyx birch
abstract ledge
cinder tapir
onyx birch
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Dont get me started I had shadow scouts and charger scouts to kill for god kjows how long with nothing but my knife and C-Foam

pine agate
#

Behold! The updated version of the Summary of Expeditions is here! Featuring Rundown 6 and 6.5, also tweaked several descriptions to make them more formal, and less... well... informal. If there's anything you'd like me to change let me know. Also, can any mods replace the pinned Summary of Expeditions with this one? Thank you Hackett_Heart

📎 Summary_of_GTFO_Expeditions_by_Warden8979_Margwa6419_and_7.pdf
shut mountain
shut mountain
hot burrow
#

@pine agate fire review

snow yarrow
#

qq, How do we know that alien planet called "Alpha"?

eternal talon
#

it doesn't have an official name in cannon, the best we have is the name of the rundown, "destination"

#

a lot of people used to call it "red alpha" if that is what you were referring to,

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however most people have since stopped using that as it is also the name of a mars mission in-lore and have swapped to Destination in order to avoid confusion

zealous summit
eternal talon
#

alpha one, alpha two, alpha three, esc are all different outposts, construction sites, and what else have you built on the surface of destination

zealous summit
#

wouldnt that make the planet alpha and the sites being 1 2 3 so on

eternal talon
#

we visit alpha two in R6B1, alpha one in R6D1, and alpha three in R6BX and R6DX

eternal talon
zealous summit
eternal talon
#

a proper name for the planet is not named anywhere in-lore, and trust me, we would know in here by now were it the case that it was named in lore as that would be incredible information, as we would then maybe even find out even more information about it from official NASA sites (if it is a real planet in the system). as we know the general location of Destination, in the heart of the Butterfly Nebula 3 thousand light years away https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_6302

NGC 6302

NGC 6302 (also known as the Bug Nebula, Butterfly Nebula, or Caldwell 69) is a bipolar planetary nebula in the constellation Scorpius. The structure in the nebula is among the most complex ever observed in planetary nebulae. The spectrum of NGC 6302 shows that its central star is one of the hottest stars known, with a surface temperature in exce...

finite vine
#

also there is a good chance that destination is not located in our universe, according to that new log talking about the matter wave projector

eternal talon
eternal talon
#

this is the biggest of occam's razors.

finite vine
#

I mean we always get new info in this game.

#

do you have the log by chance? I think we might be thinking about a different log.

eternal talon
#

these are two logs

finite vine
#

the one talking about the mwp

#

I think it was found in b3 or c3

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its not on the wiki

eternal talon
#

one moment

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i am checking my files

finite vine
#

yea thats it

eternal talon
#

it is very, VERY complicated science stuff even i don't fully understand

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essentially, the log is talking about wormholes and time dilation between them

finite vine
#

I don't think its time dilation. its talking about a ton of quantum theory stuff that is kinda science fiction

eternal talon
finite vine
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true, but this theory does not have a lot of evidence to go with it, where as other physics theory's, like relativity, have been experimentally proven.

eternal talon
eternal talon
#

and thats just about where that ends

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//if a wave from a different dimension meets another wave from a different dimension, the superposition that occurs in theory could be identical to a superposition that occurs in our known dimension//

finite vine
#

well superposition and matter waves are a real thing. dimensions, not so much (as of now). research suggests that the multiverse theory could be probable though (google the mass of the higgs boson and its relation to the multiverse theory.)

eternal talon
#

//if the differentiator between these dimensions is the quantum frequency, that dimension's perception of the passage of time, in theory that identical superposition could happen an infinite number of times and, in theory, might even have some predictability//

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wormholes as seen in Interstellar and in other major researched works, aren't always time-based. its mostly spatial

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though with the distance time becomes the bigger factor

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going faster than light and such

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so from what i can get from this log, for the most part they are theorizing on how exactly the MWP works

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and given the disappearances and vaporization of tech, humanity doesn't understand it well at all

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i think there was a log describing loosing like 80% of insight's materials into thin air

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let me go try and find it

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all of the logs are completely out of order

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here is the log btw

Capture.PNG
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i found it

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it was the entire lab

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not 80%

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and lost 50% of their equipment during the analysis

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probably stored off-site or in storage, if the entire lab dissapeared

eternal talon
finite vine
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basically its talking about superposition. superposition occurs when two solutions to the Schrödinger equation (wave functions) are added up, and the result is another valid solution.

but in the case of the MWP, it adds two solutions, one from our timeline, and one from another dimension, with a different timeline. as to why that teleports people, idk. also not sure what a "dimension" is in this definition.

eternal talon
eternal talon
finite vine
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its different from wormholes though. or, at least the theories come from separate places. superposition comes from quantum physics, while wormholes come from general relativity

eternal talon
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superposition doesn't explain the teleportation aspect is the thing

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thats like 1 or 2 of the very smallest parts of matter

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not.. anything even remotely to the scale of a human

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and its entirely random

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the cosmic background microwave

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i think

finite vine
#

there is a theoretical engine called the Alcubierre warp drive. the math is there, but the energy requirement is too much, and needs some real engineering work to become a reality. but its cool, to say the least.

polar pulsar
#

How come that in R7C3 we're doing a mission for henrikson/schaeffer. The warden is the one that drops us into the complex... That sounds really odd as schaeffer/henrikson are supposed to be 'ghosts'.

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||ignore that sticker, accidentally posted and cant remove it with the mobile discord app||

past matrix
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like the uplink isnt for them, they're utilizing the warden needing the uplink to be done for Henriksson's sniffer to be uploaded

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for the Warden, we're sent to do it for stock taking in biochemical storage facilities

south lake
#

Hm.

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Since we don't have an official planetary name yet, why not Caldwell 69a?

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Since Caldwell 69 is one of the designations of the Butterfly Nebula itself

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a (or Alpha if you wanna be technical) would be the planet itself, at least for now

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Since we have no out-of-game knowledge of any planetary bodies in the Nebula itself

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Can just call it Caldwell for short

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I figure that at least would be clearer than "Destination" or "Alpha" or whatever people are calling it

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Since it's totally separate from other designations the game uses

burnt wren
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We can call it just planetside for now, until we get some better official designation

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Short, to the point, self-explanatory

eternal talon
eternal talon
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Priority before others, or every tier in order

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Since Schaeffer and henrikson tap into the biocom system with a Trojan in D2

eternal talon
#

Changing it AGAIN.. it's a bit much and would probably make the problem worse, not better tbh.

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Temporary names are best at being that, temporary. Like the "Allens". The more complicated and in-depth it becomes the more unnecessary it is because it makes it seem more official than it is

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As far as I see it, nothing else in lore is called "Destination" and so until we get a proper name if we get a proper name, it works.

burnt wren
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Hence why I just want to call it "planet side" .
But Destination is fine by me too. Rolls. Of the tongue.

eternal talon
#

Nothing wrong with the name, just the circumstances

burnt wren
#

Guys, remind me lore of Schauffer before he got HSUd?

eternal talon
cyan arrow
#

what do the different levels of clearance represent? trying to be aware of spoiler stuff.

eternal talon
burnt wren
#

Am I supposed find and read logs by myself or?

cyan arrow
burnt wren
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Either high or low clearance.

eternal talon
eternal talon
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so i just linked the entire thing

burnt wren
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It's just the logs at notion do not open

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And I'd rather avoid going to sites while in the phone

eternal talon
#

//Private encryption//SMC mail server
From: Gianna Hilton D043
To: John Schaeffer C067
Date: March 20th 2051
Subject: New equipment needed

Hey John,

Work has slowed to a crawl. We hit the slab the geos told us about and
nothing is getting through it. I'm not getting any help from the Nyxos people
as they're insisting that they will only talk directly to Gabris, who will
only speak directly to you.

The tooth sets we're using just aren't strong enough. We break at least 3 of
them a day. They take 2 hours to replace with our depleted workforce, plus we
have to back off the mole and go through the start up/shut down procedures
every time. If we don't start using better gear there's no way we're going to
be at target depth in 3 months. We're currently drilling less than a meter a
day.

I really don't want to come to you with this stuff but I know you're going to
see the numbers on the last week and wonder what the hell's going on. Can you
speak to Nyxos? See if they have any tooth sets using stronger material?

Gianna//

#

//Private encryption//SMC mail server
From: John SÃIøùñ&5o C067
To: Andrew Clinton B035
Date: August 17th 2051
Subject: Final depth reached

Mr. Clinton,

We hit the main shaft target depth of 1500 meters at 03:30am. I called but your assistant said you were not available.

We’re in the process of dismantling the vertical mole and lateral drilling will resume on the 20th once environment filtering has completed. We’ll be using the Nyxos pulverizer tooth sets for all of the new laterals, and can work 12 excavations at a time. We expect to make rapid progress on the levels between 800 and 1500m in the next few months. Work on the lower floors will be slower according to Geo, but I’ll keep you in the loop. Once Geo comes back with new data, we’ll go back to the main shaft and should be able to run both the lateral and vertical excavations at the same time.

Thank you for the security bump. It’s so much easier to speak directly to Amara and the Nyxos team. I will be informing them when each lateral is completed so they can start building out the interiors as they did in the upper floors. I have been informed that Cntrl have T2 clearance, so I’ll keep them in the loop as they expand the grid.

Once we’ve vented and cleared each floor, all mining personnel will be housed underground, which will reduce traffic in and out of Garganta as requested.

Can I get confirmation on tour length for the mining teams? A few of them are a little nervous about being in the hole for too long, and there are rumors spreading that it’s a six month tour minimum. I’d like to squash these rumors as soon as possible. Or confirm them. I just need to know.

John//

#

//Private encryption//SMC mail server
From: John Schaeffer C067
To: Andrew Clinton B035
Date: August 20th 2051
Subject: Re: Final depth reached

Hey Mr. Clinton,

6 months is a very long tour. I'm not sure how well received that will be.

Perhaps we could arrange some weekend breaks to the Chicxulub outpost at
least?

John Schaeffer//

#

//On Aug 19th 2051 at 23:47, ANDREW Clinton B035 aClintonB035@int.smc wrote:

John,

Congratulations on hitting the target. We're ahead of schedule.

All Garganta personnel will be working in 24 week blocks. Traffic in and out
of Garganta will be strictly monitored by Kovac security. No off site travel
will be authorized. Let your team know that there will be no exceptions.
That's why we pay them well.

If any of your team cannot handle it, we are willing to terminate contracts
now. We will implement the new schedule starting September 15th. Failure to
request contract termination by then will be deemed as acceptance of the new
terms, and now contract papers will be drafted.

Stop calling it the hole.

Andrew Clinton B035//

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//../BIOCOM
illicit communication
meta3.date_stamp(531008.092419)
concern begins/..

D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.C067.tier4.j_schaeffer.flagged

Shafe,

I’ve processed the environmental data collected over the last 3 years, and there is no record of anything like we’re seeing now. The temperature readings are off the charts – way in excess of the variance we expected at 2000. The cooling system is being pushed past max just to keep the lowest levels tolerable. There is constant seismic activity that the geos assure me does not mean the entire complex is about to collapse, but when you’re in one of those tremors that doesn’t bring me any comfort.

I don’t know where your supervisors are posted at the moment, but if you have any work orders below 2000+ you might want to tell them to start writing their letters home.

I’m installing the system that I told you about for our mutual boss. I’m going deep on this one – and it is really, really uncomfortable down here. This place makes you want to scratch the inside of your head.

Honestly, I think they’re hitting some kind of geothermal mass but everyone’s too afraid to say anything. If our probes are closing in on a geological anomaly with unknown properties, I feel like energy spikes, temperature fluctuations, seismic activity, and a shared sense of doom and fear would be a big tell, right?

It’s all very well prioritizing emergency procedure education, but isn’t it better to just avoid the emergency in the first place?

Hit me back.

Artus

../BIOCOM
personnel files updated
alert system flagged
concern ends/..//

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these are all of the text logs i can find pre-apocalypse rn on the notion

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i also have 3 audio files i am sending from the "origins" archive on notion

burnt wren
#

Ah, i recognise some of these.

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Didn't realize it was him.

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Especially the last Post-explosion message.

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He sounded more professional before...

dim scroll
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He wasn't crazy before

burnt wren
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But all of these are pre-hsu craziness

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He wrote averagely in early messages. But the last one he writes like a street punk or a shitposter .

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Either because his mind started going working at the hole, or only because he talked to someone he knew personally.

#

Poor guy appears to be a honest worker too.

harsh saffron
#

I mean, I would expect ppl to change their writing style between an email to your boss and telling your friend about your workteam getting wiped out by a massive energy blast right before your eyes

burnt wren
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I don't think he lost anyone in the explosion, no. He doesn't mention it. If anything he brags about how amazing his walls are.

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He only sounded a concern that people would rather risk going AWOL than going back.

harsh saffron
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ok well the Insight team should be dead tho? yeah I know that's not his team

burnt wren
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Oh yeah, they went woosh most likely.

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Still unclear wtf was that.

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Explosions don't burn holes In a straight line...

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And by that point he knew what the sleepers were. The fuck?

#

Pretty sure it's like one time someone mentions them In a log.

harsh saffron
#

there are few months between the deep part of the mines turning into semi-warzones against sleepers and this log

burnt wren
#

Pre R7 that is.

harsh saffron
#

Funniest log this Rundown so far for me was Hammerstein just going: "Yo, I know these things react to sound so I'm gonna go down and just bait as many as I can to capture them. What could go wrong?" facepalm

burnt wren
#

Oh yeah I kek'd at that one too.

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Fucking giga brain Hammerstein

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Can't wait to hear about the outcome

harsh saffron
#

A medical report after that would be pretty "funny" indeed

eternal talon
harsh saffron
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Nah was thinking a report about the ppl that actually survived this wise experiment ^^

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Something like: "About 10% of the deployed KSOs survived. All 30 researchers died"

eternal talon
#

i just keep getting reminded of the thing and what happened with that alien ship

R.jpg
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its probably the same down there

#

the infection broke free, infected the crew, and everything else stored onboard

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or the infected got on, or whatever happened to lead to nam-v and the parasite making it aboard

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its kind of weird that every species is described to have come from //"different planets? universes?"// according to dr hammerstein

steady kettle
#

@eternal talon I ended up reading that big text file you sent in the chat about the GTFO lore and first of all, I'd like to say that you did a great job on it. However, I do have a lot of questions about the lore, questions that the text file could not answer for me

eternal talon
dim scroll
eternal talon
burnt wren
#

Eventually... Eventually...

eternal talon
burnt wren
#

I wonder if we'll ever get lore on Jerry. Or is he too late into the apocylypse for someone to care and make a log?

eternal talon
#

not that the tank and mother are either

burnt wren
#

Oh and... Does he look like 2 people stitched together?

eternal talon
#

no

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i have a good picture of him

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1 moment

burnt wren
#

Another suspect dropped.

eternal talon
#

he is very clearly one person

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if fucking massive in stature

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easily 7ft tall

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maybe even 8

burnt wren
#

Same host as big boys perhaps?

eternal talon
#

maybe? i never thought about doing a size comparison

burnt wren
#

Raw strength wasnt doing much, so parasite decided to try a DEX build

eternal talon
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this guy is suuper fast

burnt wren
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Yeah, I've seen them

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I think even mothers are slower

eternal talon
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his speed is probably most comparable to fliers, than other sleepers

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since they are also faster than the player

burnt wren
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Wait... Fliers have tentacles too...

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Some kind of three-way species fusion? Would explain the speed

eternal talon
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i dont even know how they would do that, though it isn't entirely out of the realms of possibility

burnt wren
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Reminds me of quick necromoprhs from dead space

steady kettle
# eternal talon fire away

okay well my first question would be, why did the KDS decide to implement all that security for The Complex and the security is pretty rigorous as we see in the game with a bunch of bioscans and all that sooo I mean, the security is pretty extreme and I dont get why. And onto my second question about Project "Legion" where our four squad members Bishop, Hackett, Woods and Dauda come in. Again, why is the KDS making "ideal soldiers" and you can create "ideal soldiers" without brainwashing people too and I thought those 4 guys were under the control of the Warden and not the KDS so I am confused about that too. Speaking of the Warden, what is the Warden, how did it get there? and I saw you referred to it as a "Warden protocol" so perhaps its a protocol in the computer systems but too intelligent for it to be able to have certain objectives every rundown and have complete control over our four squad members

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and of course I have more but this is probably an overwhelming amount of questions already haha

burnt wren
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The legion are the first prototype of KSO soldiers. Flawed individuals, wiped and rewritten.

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They were designed to work in tandem with an AI system called BIOCOM, which was supposed to manage the complex.

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But at some point someone injected it with WRDN protocol / virus, which inherited BIOCOMs functions and assets.

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We don't know who, why and what implications that gives - but that's the shtick.

The new artificial soldiers are supposed to replace us. They don't question, and more importantly - they are invisible to sleepers, which makes their work at complex much easier.

eternal talon
steady kettle
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but there were no "sleepers" when Project Legion was a thing

eternal talon
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no there was not

steady kettle
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its Pre apocalypse stuff

burnt wren
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Hence why the need for them.

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Warden needs that.

steady kettle
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thats not what Im asking tho 😅

burnt wren
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Legion was the program to brainwash criminals.

steady kettle
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I was more asking about the Pre apocalpyse stuff

burnt wren
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Well... Yeah. Either rise wasnt there, or it was born of realization that KSOs have their own issues as well.

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Like getting their old habits back when under pressure of combat for too long.

eternal talon
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legion came first

steady kettle
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Also WRDN cant just be a virus, its too sophisticated to be a virus with certain objectives...someone has to be either controlling WRDN manually or something

eternal talon
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we dont know how long, but we can guess a while since all the kinks weren't ironed out of Rise yet when the facility went to shit

steady kettle
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someone has to be at the helm of it you know

eternal talon
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an ai designed specifically to think

burnt wren
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And It inherited BIOCOM, which was pretty smart as well.

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Btw, the log about biocom fucking around with personnel. Was that before or after WRDN?

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Do we have a date on WRDN injection?

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Unfortunate.

steady kettle
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well Im just confused lol

burnt wren
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That's normal, this lore is fucked harder than dark souls

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We get boring corporate logs and have to scan them word by word to get a single piece of useful information.

steady kettle
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yeah the lore seems overly complicated so I came here for answers

burnt wren
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We still have no idea what WRDNs endgame is.

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Could be literally anything.

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Could be just trying to keep the complex running against all odds.

steady kettle
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Im not even at the WRDN part, Im confused about the pre apocalypse stuff right now as there is a lot of that and it goes by quickly

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it still isnt clear exactly how that virus spread

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and how the "Ancient Aliens" woke up

burnt wren
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Oh boy

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Uh...

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Aliens fucked up

eternal talon
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so it was most likely when santonian or whoever dug into where they were

burnt wren
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The virus seems to be a bio weapon, judging by how ruthless it is.

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And aliens got fucked by it.

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Presumably tried escape it, but screwd that too

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The complex is standing on top of something. No idea what.

eternal talon
steady kettle
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isnt the complex below down in the crater that was formed when the meteor hit Earth

eternal talon
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1.5k meters

burnt wren
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Something like that? They wanted to drill for some metals or whatever. Found something else instead. Had to quickly repurpose a giant mining facility into a research center instead.

steady kettle
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Honestly, I'd just like to watch a clear video about the lore because all this is pretty confusing tbh

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like from the beginning to the end with everything explained

burnt wren
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There's a complete time line video somewhere. Made by Duck I believe?

eternal talon
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yes

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pins i think

steady kettle
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and who is Schaeffer and Hendriksson and all those characters

burnt wren
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Oh Schauffer is easy as you've seen becore

steady kettle
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the lore of this game is interesting but its so fucked

burnt wren
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He was a chief of drilling operations

eternal talon
steady kettle
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I have so many questions, very little answers

burnt wren
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Hendrikson though... Have we ever heard of him before even?

eternal talon
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it is a complicated mess

eternal talon
burnt wren
eternal talon
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thats why the for dummies doc is so important

burnt wren
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5 months for an update and at best we get a confirmation on something we already predicted.

steady kettle
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I dont think it takes 5 months for an update

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I have been playing since Rundown 4

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i played that and 5 and I didnt play 6 or 6.5 at all

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and in that gap of like a few months, I missed 2 rundowns

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like completely

burnt wren
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Technically thats 1,5

steady kettle
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I never got into the story until recently..or well atleast I tried to get into the story

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its pretty hard to get into it

burnt wren
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You can say that again...

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Blueballing to the max

steady kettle
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Honestly, one day the devs should release an official lore wiki page or something like that

burnt wren
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You are on it, right now.

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Ignoring santonian website that is.

eternal talon
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we also have the santonian website, but it isn't as sorted as the community made notion.so

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that is the best we have for a database and timeline

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if you want to sink your teeth in deeper

steady kettle
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Link it to me if you want

eternal talon
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no need

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its in the pins

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just scroll down a little bit

burnt wren
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Down or up?

eternal talon
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down

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its near the bottom

burnt wren
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What....

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I'm on mobile so it makes no sense to me.

eternal talon
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there is a direct link

burnt wren
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I suddenly realized what that animation leak was way back when.

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That was Jerry's grab animation.

eternal talon
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what were you confused about?

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and please, take it very slow and point by point

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because there is mountains of stuff here and it is all intertwined

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i will go 1 by 1 with any questions you have, even if it takes me all day

violet creek
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Where did the enemies in game come from

eternal talon
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the sleepers that we see often, the strikers, shooters, giants, etc are infected humans,

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controlled and manipulated by the nam-v virus and the parasite

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the floaters, they are also infected, but they are natives from the planet Destination.

violet creek
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So the floaters came millions of years ago on the asteroid and the company digged em up which caused what’s happened

eternal talon
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so, the floaters got into the facility in r6b1, when we left a warp gate open and they followed us home

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since then, they have seemingly ever grown in numbers and appear throughout the complex

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the aliens that came with the asteroid as a different, undefined species that we know very little about

violet creek
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So we’re fighting an alien species and an alien virus.

eternal talon
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no. the alien species has seemingly been wiped out and is entirely under the control of the virus

violet creek
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Oh okay.

burnt wren
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The floaters are fuuucked

violet creek
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Sounds sorta like the floor

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Flood

eternal talon
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in ways, yes kind of. though it isn't a centeral hive mind

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its just a hive

burnt wren
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Are we sure of that, actually?...

eternal talon
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where it absorbs species to keep itself going and to spread even further

eternal talon
burnt wren
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That there's no central hivemind

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It's a pathetic writing tool but...

eternal talon
violet creek
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I think if there was a central hive mind more of them would aggro when you alert one

eternal talon
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as i haven't seen in any of the logs i've examined

solar nova
eternal talon
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all of the logs are out of order and scattered about

solar nova
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Sleepers have to actually communicate to each other, but they also behave as if they're on the same "team" and such.

eternal talon
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what'd you change?

solar nova
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Haven't touched it. What page?

eternal talon
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that is linked in pins

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its fine at first then it goes all over the place as you scroll down

solar nova
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And which view?

eternal talon
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this link

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the one in the pins

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i haven't changed any view settings, it just shows up that way

solar nova
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It looks fine on my end?

eternal talon
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well what the fuck

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all my settings for it are defaulted

solar nova
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If other people are having the same issue I'll take a second look.

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It might also be on Notion's end, in which case it can be reported but (probably) not fixed.

harsh saffron
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Notion looks normal to me 👍

sharp olive
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Why are we even sent to the prison in the first place?

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Ohhh stupid warden wanting us to do an objective

dim scroll
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check the pins

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We don't know the final objective of warden though

sharp olive
sharp olive
dim scroll
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Are you expecting me to give you a canon reason ?

late raven
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Look in looking for group chats

eternal talon
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Or it wasnt designed to be one anyway

abstract ledge
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This may be a stupid question but it's been on my mind.

When sleepers are sleeping, they're just kinda sitting there. But when an alarm blares, even things like last rundown C3 where the alarm was in the whole level, they mysteriously and conveniently know how to path exactly to where the player is.

Is there a canon way the sleepers detect the player, or is it just kinda gameplay convenience?

eternal talon
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they take the path of least resistance

cobalt mulch
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annoyingly sometimes sleepers aggro on a door, but if another path opens, they sometimes un-aggro and go for open door. other times, they continue banging even tho. inconsistent, at times.

soft valley
burnt wren
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Pretty much, although each character was imprisoned for a reason.

soft valley
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Time to go carry heavy object, poke butt, and press big red button that says no-no.

burnt wren
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Woods actually done something fucked up.
Hackett turned himself in willingly because he believed he deserved a punishment for what he's done.
Dauda willingly put himself into HSU unit trying to survive and Warden took advantage of an opportunity.
Bishop is the only "innocent". Tried to black mail the wrong man at the top of command so they sent him here as punishment.

sharp olive
sharp olive
red siren
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Wait with the civil war thing who was fighting who

dreamy hornet
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It's possible/likely that the answer is yes. The world is basically collapsing from NAM-V so there's gonna be civil wars everywhere

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Depending on the time point of some of the logs/recordings. It's possible that the world is effectively over and that humanity has been reduced to small bands of people trying to deal with whatever remains after NAM-V.

abstract ledge
subtle verge
red siren
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Ah thank you

burnt wren
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I randomly relistened to the log from R6 after the destination expedition got stranded

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It suddenly clicked for me that the guy in the log accidentally found out the time discrepancy, but didn't realized it

steady kettle
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so we are KSOs?

burnt wren
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He found his plant probes they "sent three days ago" but was surprised to find them dead and withered away. Not just dead, but months worth of dead. And the soil was completely dry, even though he personally vouched that it was "saturated" and "even in these conditions" the plants were supposed to survive for at least a couple weeks.

He made the wrong conclusion that there's something in the atmosphere, but he was wrong. He actually found the time difference between destination and earth, but it just didn't crossed his mind because why would it.

burnt wren
# steady kettle so we are KSOs?

Yes. Kovac Security Operatives. The fancy name for brainwashed prisoners, acting out as drones for BIOCOM to control and send around the place to get tasks done.

steady kettle
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is it not?

burnt wren
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Frosty mentioned that they are "still fighting for control" so i'm not sure. No idea where he found that info.
These days we could be working for both at the same time.

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Either way it didn't change our status as KSOs. Our commanding officer changed, that's all.

steady kettle
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yeah the lore is pretty insane

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I honestly want a movie/series on GTFO

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please

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this concept is too crazy to go to waste

burnt wren
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Eh...

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It would be very experimental.

steady kettle
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it would be interesting

burnt wren
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Labyrinth Runner style or something

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4 guys drop in, remember nothing

steady kettle
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well it depends on the writers and the actors of course

burnt wren
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Not much you can write with that

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...unless someone tries to break them out

steady kettle
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theres so much more to 4 guys dropping in and doing stuff and you know it lol

burnt wren
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While biocom has control over us - there's really not

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We are drones, robots in flesh as far as BIOCOM / WRDN amalgamation is concerned.

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We get sent down to collect things we don't recognise and do things we don't understand and try not to die.

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The real points of interest are characters outside of BIOCOM / KSO relationship, as they actually have agency unlike us.

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So if there was to be a movie - Schaeffer is the perfect main character. Just follow him.

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Or someone like him.

steady kettle
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But Hydrostasis isnt always meant to brainwash you entirely is it

burnt wren
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It doesn't brainwash you, just makes you forget lots of things. BIOCOM then uses that confusion to try and hijack your consciousness. Although maybe some brainswashing does takes place, as we can hear for yourselves in C1 audio coms.

steady kettle
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R7C1? The hacker bit with Hendriksson and Shaeffer?

burnt wren
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More so the bit where Sheffer triggers Hendrikson's KSO protocols.

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For shits and giggles.

steady kettle
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I dont recall, what happens there?

burnt wren
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He says things like "Operative, do you want to complete the mission?"
and Hendrikson, without skipping a bit goes "Yes. What are my orders?" which scares Hendrikson a great deal because it's a completely subconscious reaction he had no control over.

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By the end of C1 they pull out something from Hendrikson. Some kind of chip i suppose.

steady kettle
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shit now that I have some context, I need to go and see that C1 audio log again

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where is Schaeffer rn

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KDS Deep?

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where was Schaeffer in C1

burnt wren
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I have no idea what KDS Deep is, presumably its like a massive storage area for all the HSUs and KSOs but i'm not sure, not that deep the rabit hole

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Schaeefer is very close to us right now, just slightly out of reach im guessing

eternal talon
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Will post a picture when I get home for you

burnt wren
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ah

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the one at the very end?

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that thing is fucking impossible to read though, is it not?

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being eaten alive and such

eternal talon
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Not if you 🧀

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I have a very clean image of the terminal

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Talked about it at length a week ago

eternal talon
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Nowadays, he is presumably nearby or at least somewhat close to the squad, as we stumble across one of his hideouts in r6.5's CX

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And even closer in r7 as we directly give him packages like in B1

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@burnt wren found a picture of it in this server

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Little faster than waiting for me to get home, I suppose

eternal talon
eternal talon
# steady kettle is it not?

Yes, warden is currently in control, though it is fighting with a weakened biocom that is trying to recover its system and delete the WRDN. Think a puppet trying to fight to break free from a pupetter actively using it.

steady kettle
burnt wren
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We did

eternal talon
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Yes, I actually have a video of this interaction. 1 sec

burnt wren
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But Schaeffer has a way of forcing us into interacting with him

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By locking the doors

eternal talon
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Here

burnt wren
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Even with our brainwashing we have to play along

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Or we cant do what warden asks us to

eternal talon
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It is either "one", "two" or "three"

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These are all of the Schaeffer diologues in b1

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okay, yes it is video 2 where we give him a package

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i just got home btw

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i'll send you the pic @burnt wren if you didn't look at the quote message

burnt wren
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i watched it yeah

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no need

eternal talon
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no, of the terminal

20220617235030_1.jpg
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of biocom vs warden

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it loops twice on this very terminal, the same block of text

steady kettle
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ohhh i just saw the video

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and are you really soloing B1 lol

eternal talon
steady kettle
eternal talon
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not gonna try those

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this rundown is way too hard to solo most of it for lore exclusively