gtfo-lore

[rich blaze]

I'm pretty sure they were referring to Houston

[rocky wraith]

So communication was possible between the H-Town and Garganta

[rocky wraith]

Why Houston?

[rich blaze]

idk for me it just made sense

I may be wrong ofc

[rocky wraith]

Yep just rechecked the C1 log

its Houston

[rich blaze]

oh thankg god I'm not going mad

where did she talk about it?

[rocky wraith]

Very first one

C1: Navigation Log 1

"I've just arrived from Houston, and have joined project insight as the new analysis overseer"

[rich blaze]

oh yeah thanks

[rocky wraith]

Rebecca has done quite a bit of ladder climbing from Analysis Overseer to the project runner of the first teleportation expedition

~~I think they probably found a cure or something to help with NAM-V, given how in her final C1 logs she was sounding rather paranoid and having auditory hallucinations. Yet in B1 she sounded fine if a little stressed ~~Wait no Im wrong

[solar nova]

I'd assume she's probably a high profile scientist that is being brought on-board for her expertise in something adjacent to the tech they've found.

[rocky wraith]

She was already a part of the company when she came to garganta

And given that she is married to Howard, she probably got the position through connection as well

[rich blaze]

Her brother/husband (hot debate to this day) told her to come to Garganta

[rocky wraith]

Yush, which is the connection which got her in

I think married

given the love infinity +1 thing

And she was already apart of the company in Houston due to the clearance level already given to her

[harsh saffron]

Always thought H-Town meant hometown but Houston makes more sense. Also still believe they are siblings

[burnt wren]

Could be either way.
Although it's a common Internet opinion that siblings are more "believable / realistic" when they are constantly in banter. The concept of genuine open love between siblings is something I've seen people constantly criticise as unrealistic and not how actual siblings act ever, so married couple makes more sense here.

[harsh saffron]

I can definitely see both options as a possibility but yeah married seems more likely in some mails

[burnt wren]

Especially love+infinity or whatever

That's the kind of cringe only a married couple would write

[rich blaze]

That's definitely the kind of cheesy stuff from a couple

[somber kite]

I thought siblings at first but the way Howard writes definitely feels more romantic than familial

BUT YESSS NEW LORE LMAO yeah the biggest thing for me is that there’s still normal life on the surface during that time… no email about the virus or wars but abt the neighbor’s dog.. HMM

[eternal talon]

2052.. I'd have to look at the logs again

Mathematically, that should not be possible

It could just be that it's so obvious that they don't mention it in this email

Ultimately, this log gives so little info it might as well not exist

[somber kite]

unless Howard is typing in CODE ……. what if…..

I know Rebecca mentioned in a log of hers that she knows how much surveillance goes on in terms of communication in garganta

[harsh saffron]

Actually thought about that as well

[pearl trench]

so long as they don't pull a fma off this I'm good

if a dog starts talking to me I'm shooting

[harsh saffron]

the dog? 👀

[somber kite]

oh my god

[harsh saffron]

I'm sorry 😦

[pearl trench]

that's the vibe i got from the new log and I desperately wish to be wrong

[somber kite]

the dog and des have been merged

[pearl trench]

I'm throwing the monkey's paw out the window before it gets any ideas
go grant the grass' wish

never mind that dog enemies in games tend to be really annoying, i just don't want to see what gtfo dogs would look like

[harsh saffron]

Dark souls dogs

[somber kite]

mutated nam v dogs .. surely not D:

[pearl trench]

i am manifesting lack of mutated dogs 😔

[somber kite]

I don’t think they’d have mutated dogs down there … unless they were using dogs like lab experiments ?? OR security dogs. but now that makes me want little mutated rats LOL

[pearl trench]

well... the Rise project certainly seemed to be aiming for artificial life...

[somber kite]

ah…… they better not have tried to make lab grown dogs …. LOL

[pearl trench]

that's what I'm saying

[somber kite]

also off topic but I just remembered, it’s cool how the teleportation machine you insert the wave projector into seems to be designed off quantum computers… I sadly do not have a screenshot of the machine in-game but this is what a quantum computer looks like 👀

not anything revolutionary just a cool design thing I noticed >:3

[pearl trench]

i def liked the designs of the teleporters

[somber kite]

Yeah!! Love how it makes you feel tiny next to those giant arms that extend when you’re about to teleport

[livid grotto]

anything but dogs

pls

[harsh saffron]

cats?

[livid grotto]

yes

[harsh saffron]

spiders?

[livid grotto]

huuhhh

[pearl trench]

ducks?

[lucid charm]

cockroach.

[celest pagoda]

Been gone for the day, I read the log, anything else I missed?

[eternal talon]

not as far as i know

the log makes no fucking sense in context

as to how they are having a simple "how's the weather?" type conversation while the world is on fire

[past matrix]

well isn't there only a pandemic going on?

(when the email takes place)

i wonder why exactly the log is relevant enough to be included

for r6 some of the santonian website logs gave more detail to nam-v and the outbreak itself

so maybe this is similar, and maybe its where dogs and shit can also be affected by it?

[subtle verge]

It's possible that it's a step in the door for animals to be afflicted by NAM-V, but we'll for sure need more to take that claim any further.

[burnt wren]

I can accept small talk still being part of daily life, whatever is left of it. Coping and all that.

However someone mentioned that this could be some kind of spy-style coded message. However we have jackshit to decipher it with.

Either that or it does indeed points at animals getting infected. 11 years is not much for a dog.

That or devs are juat trolling us, wouldn't put it past them.

[eternal talon]

If it IS infected, then 100% of the surface is likely dead then, not just humans

[burnt wren]

Destination 2.0, coming soon.

[peak dock]

Alien no head but yes lick why?

Theoretically

Cuz is that possible?

[subtle verge]

TL;DR - The Sleepers are both mutated humans and a species of their own.

It is believed in theory that the parasite takes over its host and converts the head into a, well, gaping maw that is the parasite itself. Some theorize that the parasite resides in the large intestine (aka the "tongue"). There are other theories out there, but this is one I believe.

[pearl trench]

And irradiated similar-to-ferns-but-not-ferns have something to do with everything

Worth noting shooters and hybrids do die without a head, so it's a behavior specific to strikers

[eternal talon]

Ehh, I'd qualify sleepers as their own thing, like you wouldn't say a chair is both wood and nails at the same time

Also isn't that a double negative? Being both a species of their own and being mutated humans?

When I think of stuff like in fallout, you'd think something akin to originating from a mutated species or some sort

[solar nova]

They'd just be parasitic, I'd think.

[eternal talon]

But I dunno

[subtle verge]

I'm separating the two, stating that they were an original life form and transferred to humans.

[solar nova]

Mutated might be the wrong word, depends on what Punk means.

[eternal talon]

Well technically speaking NAM-V does mutate the hosts, and we don't know that the parasite can make sleepers by itself

So regardless they would still be technically correct

[subtle verge]

Regardless, it was a very quick summary, semantics aside.

[eternal talon]

The dog log makes no sense whatsoever in context

[solar nova]

Seems fine to me? The world is not, in-fact, ending acc. to it.

[eternal talon]

Well that would directly contradict other logs though

About it being worldwide and being impossible to cure

[subtle verge]

Makes perfect sense to me, honestly. It's no different than communication during our real world global lockdown(s). Obviously, C19 isn't as destructive as NAM-V, but I digress.

[eternal talon]

Yeah, but why of all things is this a log we get to see? The dog isn't even in garganta, we'd never encounter it

[solar nova]

As far as we know, it might be contained.

[eternal talon]

It has the highest infection rate in humans history

[solar nova]

Okay?

[eternal talon]

You just can't contain that kind of thing

[solar nova]

I mean, you can.

As far as we know, they've gone into an aggressive lockdown where nobody is allowed to leave their homes at all.

[eternal talon]

We know:

1. it is NOT able to be cured
   2)it is global and on all continents
   3)it is the most infectious disease known to humanity

Not to mention the logs of the medical centers,

I think it's kinda cut and dry

[solar nova]

None of this entails that the world would be ending, just that NAM-V would be pretty hard to get rid of and is likely to spread over time.

[eternal talon]

That is downplaying it massively

It's not pretty hard to get rid of, it's impossible to

And it's already spread everywhere, years before this log

And a decade before the events of the game

[solar nova]

You can literally lower the r-naught a disease by making policy changes, and "cannot be cured" doesn't mean you can't get rid of it, you would just let infected individuals die.

[eternal talon]

With the NAM-V outbreak in Manchester, England, the World health Organization is now declaring the NAM-V virus as a phase 6 global pandemic. The virus is no longer confined to just Mexico and the United States and has spread to a new WHO region.

The risks of getting NAM-V are substantially higher in inadequately ventilated spaces where infected people spend even short periods of time together in close proximity. The R-Naught of NAM-V is currently at 17, making it one of the most infectious contagions in human history. There is currently no known cure for NAM-V, and treatment options are limited.

Although the virus has currently only been detected in the United States, Mexico, and the United Kingdom, there is a 90% probability that the virus is present in all continents.

As the search for Patient Zero continues, the WHO is reminding all nations that contact tracing is of the utmost importance as soon as any cases of viral infections have been documented: WHETHER CONFIRMED AS NAM-V OR NOT

[solar nova]

You're repeating things I already know.

I've stated my position and why I hold it.

[eternal talon]

why do you not have the log of it nam-v eating through hazmat?

[subtle verge]

The dog log (heh) isn't as much of a rabbit hole as it's made out to be, imo. To me, it seems more like a casual conversation to let someone know about the going ons outside of the (metaphorical) concrete prison that is Garganta. It shows a side of humanity that we can relate to that isn't intense research woes.

[eternal talon]

i can't find it on the notion

[solar nova]

The parasite, nam-v is not getting through itself.

[eternal talon]

if nam-v can eat through some of the best protection in the entire world, social distancing is not going to do anything at all

[subtle verge]

I'd want that kind of conversation despite the sadness, personally, if I were in Stokes' shoes.

[eternal talon]

could of sworn it was injecting parasite(s) not the other way around

seriously, why isn't this log on the notion.so?

[subtle verge]

Which one?

[eternal talon]

eating through hazmat

[solar nova]

I have our entire cellular biology department working on this, but so far
little progress has been made. Even after the parasite is removed, the viral
load increases. We cannot stop the progress of the virus, and our only
defense is SCBA Level A suits when in NAM-V hotspots. Even with this level of protection, the parasites are finding ways in. 

"Subject Analysis"

[eternal talon]

full log please

[subtle verge]

It is. I forget the name of it off the top of my head.

Ah, there it is.

Thanks, Ray!

[eternal talon]

i found it

[eternal talon]

We cannot stop the progress of the virus, and our only
defense is SCBA Level A suits when in NAM-V hotspots. Even with this level of protection, the parasites are finding ways in.

ah, so you were cutting out VITAL INFORMATION

[solar nova]

I literally quoted more than you did.

[eternal talon]

what?

oh i can't read

why'd you put it in coding box? i had to click expand

[solar nova]

Wtf is your resolution?

[eternal talon]

i have it on a little led display on my pc case

i'm farming in WoW rn, i have the game open on one monitor and a map on the other

[solar nova]

Jesus

[eternal talon]

it's efficient!

anyway,

"when in nam-v hotspots"

so either that is weird wording or it's different

also where did the term "injecting" come from in regards to this log anyway?>

[solar nova]

Even after the parasite is removed, the viral load increases.
This implies the parasite and the virus aren't identical.

[eternal talon]

well no, we know that by default

[solar nova]

Injecting sounds like something you started saying, not aware of anyone else mentioning it.

[eternal talon]

i could have sworn i got the term from Punk, but i can't find any quotes in the search bar

so i don't know where it came from

[subtle verge]

I can't think of any log with the use 'injecting' in that context.

[eternal talon]

it might have been a miscommunication on my end, the biocom logs talk about the warden being injected into the system

[solar nova]

smh

[eternal talon]

whatchu mean

what's wrong with wow?

[quick grove]

@eternal talon @solar nova @subtle verge i played DX the other day and its save to say that thats probably the mimic

My man dead

[eternal talon]

Wow.. you are.. late

@quick grove

where've you been? i missed your presence

[livid grotto]

@merry frost I hope you are up to date on the lore for Rundown 7

[merry frost]

bonk sleeper it die

im gonna farm boosters with BATFAT so he can get all the c-foam portion booster to block your terminal screen....

[quick grove]

Busy with other lore contents for a project

[eternal talon]

i really hope r7 includes some major lore regarding the allens

[quick grove]

Yes

@eternal talon how have you been frosty man

[eternal talon]

I'm fine

[quick grove]

Thats good

[rocky wraith]

SO hype that R7 will tell us more about RISE

[pearl trench]

So many ethics violations to learn about

[burnt wren]

I mean... Is creating artificial soldiers really an ethic violation?

Basically making robots, just the ones made with meat.

Which can feel pain, emotions, suffering...

You know what, you're right. Should've just went for robots instead.

[harsh saffron]

I mean if they "recycle" other humans they abducted for biomass I feel like that would be kinda unethical ^^'

[burnt wren]

In phoenix point there is a DLC faction called "The Pure".

Their shtick was that they were once humans, but augmented themselves to the point that nothing organic was left and they believed that this was the only way to win, because Pandoravirus specifically fucks and mutates everything organic, so they were like "right, if nothing organic is left - then we win by default" and that's how The Pure were created.
Unfortunately something about going full cyborg really screws with their psyche, so they just ended up being murder hobos harrasing everyone for their organic inferiority.

And by "harassing" I mean high caliber gauss rounds.

[pearl trench]

i love stories of humans ship of theseus-ing themselves

[burnt wren]

I still haven't recovered from SOMA.

[pearl trench]

understandable

existential horror beats out most other forms pretty handily in the long-term

[cobalt mulch]

amen brother

[eternal talon]

They're not us

[subtle lily]

is there a place to get a good understanding of the lore of all previous rundowns that easy to access? cause i don't feel like trawling through the wiki

[pearl trench]

Watch professor scaler lore vids

Unfortunately the Santonian site with all the logs is a bit under the weather right now

[subtle lily]

cheers

[eternal talon]

Use the notion.so linked in the pins of this channel. Everybody uses it.

[solar nova]

Isn't there a new log soon?

Is that today?

Oh yeah, 4 hours from now.

[snow yarrow]

Btw is there any lore or info about the surface now?

[solar nova]

We know that NAM-V has reached the surface starting in Florida. It's made its way to Manchester, England, and is probably in a number of other places by that time.

The WHO is still broadcasting emergency messages in 2057, and they're apparently looking for the origin of the virus in that log. Apparently people are avoiding infection through stringent isolation.

[snow yarrow]

well hummm

anything else..?

like did the sleeper reaching the surface or not?

or like how many human still alive out side

[solar nova]

Based on what we've seen so far, the logs seem to imply that sleepers are not on the surface yet. It seems like the parasite is probably what's responsible for sleepers, and NAM-V is just a particularly virulent disease.

[solar nova]

We don't know.

[snow yarrow]

No I mean some kind of speculation so on

[solar nova]

Oh, the 2055 log (new) and the 2057 log are a bit conflicting. It seems like things might be okay, albeit with very extreme lockdown protocols, or it might be the case that the situation is increasingly deteriorating and society is on the verge of collapse.

Either way, it seems like it's a slow burn, it's just unclear if things are fairly stable or if there's a pretty steady decline.

[snow yarrow]

cool

interesting..

Cuz I havn't put much attention on it xd

[harsh saffron]

Hm, I was off with the timing on this log, thought it came out in 55 minutes ^^'
UB5-6HY-RKQ.LOG

D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.exec_branch/CGetzB488.flagged
From: Marcus Gantus B623
To: Christopher Getz B488
Date: September 03rd 2053
Subject: Hooking up to the training area
Hey Christopher!
I’m working on the hook up to the training course, and I noticed you haven’t patched in the
overflow vault yet? I believe there’s a lot of T’s in there that Ms. Klein will want to run
through the course, so we need you to patch us in. Is it on your schedule? Or can I help, lol?
Sorry, feeling the presh over here.
Can you let me know when it’s all connected so I can run a few virtuals through the ringer and
see if it’s all working before we send in the real deal?
Thanks bud! LMK.
Marcus Gantus
BIOCOM Engineer

Well, I guess we are getting a training area / tutorial in R7.

[real pewter]

took the warden long enough

[eternal talon]

That's cool, but yet another useless log

How sad

[eternal talon]

Around that time they also said that there is a ~90% chance it has gone global and is on ALL continents

[frail jay]

Maybe it's a clue that the new environment is "living quarters" or something like that

[hasty pier]

or they're adding a tutorial lol

[eternal talon]

If anything I'd bet the training would be more psychological, or directly encoded in the KSOs neural jack, rather than standard physical training

[frail jay]

Maybe, since they have special programs for brainwashing through HSU

[subtle verge]

I like that the new logs aren't super serious so far and are giving us a bit of background.

[rich blaze]

Background is always important

[burnt wren]

It's neat, but not worth weeks of decryption hype.

[solar nova]

I mean, if we get one it's probably not going to be the first one.

[nimble pewter]

If they're giving us four logs, I wouldn't expect all of them to be massive, and they could still end up being relevant in their own ways

[pearl trench]

I'd be mildly disappointed and feel just a bit teased, but I don't think the pre-rundown logs containing only cryptic background info would be a huge problem

[burnt wren]

Not huge, but definetely disappointingly overwhelming. Lots of blue balling for no good reason.

[pearl trench]

depends entirely on how much weight you put in them tbh, I wasn't really assuming they'd be that much to begin with

if the r7 trailer is a slide show of dog pictures then I'll feel blue-balled

[harsh saffron]

Tbf this last log is basically on the exact same lvl as one from pre R5. Instead of explaining boosters, it explained the tutorial. We can't have WRDN taking over Biocom every log ^^

[pearl trench]

that one was rad as hell

[celest pagoda]

I feel like logs like the dog one are the ones that will be important later on, once we know more.

But the idea of the dog possibly dying to NAM-V, that's scary. But like others said, Stokes Coulda just been speaking in code.

[past matrix]

its been made clear in the past that they don't want in-game tutorials (and also id imagine it would fit 1.0 instead of a release after 1.0)

so i wonder if though we would get like sort of a training course

like a firing range and a few other things

[eternal talon]

that, i would like

[vocal cove]

It is, I added all dog pictures I could find from my personal photo album

[eternal talon]

1. it's on the surface so we'd never see it
2. it's nam-v, so no sleeper dogs

[celest pagoda]

Well assuming the Sleepers and the Destination creatures both are infected, the virus is not limited to people.

[eternal talon]

it would just be nice to see anything, anything at all in-game that has to do with the allens alone, like the sandstone circle

they keep getting so close to mentioning them but never do

pic for reference

we don't even have a name for them, and they are some of the most important characters in gtfo-lore

[burnt wren]

Something generic like The Ancients

I wish just for once someone would go and call them something cool like Hurzargols

[past matrix]

the Zorpalods

[harsh saffron]

The Goldies

[eternal talon]

The Silithid

[burnt wren]

The Sha'kens

[rocky wraith]

The Bunglesnatchers

[eternal talon]

The Plaguebearers

[pine agate]

The Shekpoh'int

[harsh saffron]

Btw sry, I totally forgot to ping @cursive moss

[cobalt mulch]

noticed on b1 jump just now.. half a second before switching dim the jump platform looked like it sprouted grass or vegetation all around the circle.. knee high tops. funny detail.

[eternal talon]

Wdym second half?

The 2nd mandatory 4-scan door?

Which one? There are two, and usually you only go through one or the other

To get the key

[pearl trench]

half a second not second half

[somber kite]

yessss LOGS

[pearl trench]

gotta wait a couple days for the other two 😔

[somber kite]

have only two been revealed?

[cobalt mulch]

dog dead and virtual training, afaik

[cursive moss]

❤️ ❤️

[cursive moss]

Virtual training does sound like something nice, I wonder how they'd implement that 🤔

[solar nova]

Tbh, a permanent training tool/tutorial has been pretty needed for a long time.

One of those features that makes the game a bit more casual but has always been "yeah, that's fair."

Especially when the game is so esoteric that a lot of game knowledge had to be datamined back in R1.

Took more than 5 months for anyone to come up w/ methods of getting weapon damage or enemy health by any other method (Friendly Fire).

[sonic citrus]

I wouldn't expect them to go over stuff like enemy health or weapon damage in a tutorial though. I'd expect a short level with some guided stealth and some setup for an easy alarm. I feel like a lot of the important stuff would be tricky to tutorialise without it being awkward or immersion breaking. (enemy spawning rules for example)

I think tool usage is probably the only thing that needs teaching though really, in my opinion everything beyond that should be for the player to figure out.

[harsh saffron]

Inb4 "training course" is just the new environment

[cobalt mulch]

heh, free weekend helmet background, imagine redfoo singing "wiggle wiggle wiggle" on it .. 😄

[nimble pewter]

It is a terribly concerning graphic

[hot burrow]

Was about to say did anyone else notice that.

Its giving me an infected prisoner vibe

[cobalt mulch]

maybe those are the parasites that chew thru gear. hopefully not that mask tho.

[hot burrow]

Oh ya. Could be

3 more days

We will see

[cobalt mulch]

3days <homer finger wiggling ooooo>

[teal urchin]

People might have just checked the game files. That would definitely make things easier

[sonic citrus]

Well all that information is out there on spreadsheets and the wiki probably, but it would be strange for the game to present it to you

[harsh saffron]

"Chargers have evolved to withstand exactly xx.xx points of damage, don't ask how we measured that"

[rich blaze]

What is a point of damage?
Don't worry about it

[sonic citrus]

Ooh but imagine if you ADS ping with the biotracker and the display shows you some "vitality factor" for whatever you targetted 😮

[rocky wraith]

Species: Run

Health: Run

Distance: Run faster!

[sonic citrus]

Distance: ticks down rapidly

[rocky wraith]

Beeping noises intensify

[rich blaze]

[eternal talon]

uhhhhh

gif

https://gtfothegame.com/freeweekend

creepy

definitely looks like something has taken over this prisoner

[finite vine]

nah it looks like he's trying to escape the tentacles

[eternal talon]

look at the way his head is moving

it's unnatural.. and weird

like it's jerking back and forth

[finite vine]

yea probably because he's freaking out and trying to escape

[dense obsidian]

Are those tentacles or worms now?

[eternal talon]

you don't see him resting though, no hands, or anything

[eternal talon]

no idea, but best bet tentacles

unless those are the parasites

[dense obsidian]

Yeah

Is it trying to enter the mask

Check the front bit by the mouth

[eternal talon]

idk, it looks to me like it's already in control

even resisting, nobody moves like that

the only thing that comes close in my mind is the Taken in Destiny and the way they jitter

[past matrix]

i think its more than likely just him trying to jerk away

[dense obsidian]

Maybe

But itd be cool to fight infested legionares

Well not really

[past matrix]

i dont see why they would add hands and shit; its just a simple gif. Putting a fuckton of work into something that's only shown on the free weekend page wouldn't be too practical

[eternal talon]

just thinking about it, this game would not do well with gunfights

[eternal talon]

it's also the devleaks image

only difference is this version is animated

[burnt wren]

Why not? Shooters are pretty much that

[past matrix]

yeah its supposed to be the main image of r7

[eternal talon]

shooters don't really duck in cover like most gunfights would do

[past matrix]

like how the main image of r2 showed spitters

[eternal talon]

they just sorta straife around in the back of the horde

[burnt wren]

Also true

Then again the hostile soldiers could also do the same

It would be stupid but games often do that anyway these days

[eternal talon]

that's what i mean, it'll either be horribly done with the ai or it just wouldn't feel like gtfo

[burnt wren]

Hm...

If they can manage to recreate F.E.A.R. AI then that would be awesome, but games seriously stopped trying to create smart opponents

Warframe devs were very often asked about why not create a better AI for their enemies and their response was pretty much "no sense in trying to give big brains to an average grunt that dies in 2 seconds after entering player's FoV"

[past matrix]

here's the full gif, btw

[burnt wren]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

It doesn't seem like tentacles are doing anything, they just flail about

It's the mask itself that moves

[eternal talon]

they are also under the mask though

if you look when the character looks upward

[burnt wren]

Oh, they come from it...

Horrifying

An infected KSO?

[eternal talon]

whoever is shown here is almost certainly being puppeted

[burnt wren]

But infected by what

[quick coyote]

Has anyone here seen Roanoke Gaming's Videos on GTFO??

[burnt wren]

Frosty did

[quick coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Xsp0XfnIY

[burnt wren]

He hates them

[eternal talon]

some sort of sleeper, that's mostly a given

[eternal talon]

it is very inaccurate, and he actively removed comments attempting to share the lore, i wouldn't trust it other than from an outsiders viewpoint on ONLY what you see in-game

[past matrix]

I think that's just how the model is

it seems in the gif there's only the helmet model + the tentacle shit

and when he looks upwards you do see some of the tentacles stuck but then they unlodge once he looks down

[eternal talon]

is there nothing else if you max out the gamma?

[burnt wren]

The movement seems very... How can i put it... Agressive? Like its looking for something.

[eternal talon]

that's what i mean. a human doesn't move like that, even if trying to break free

[past matrix]

honestly

im inclined to think it's just like a spitter but instead of squirting on you, it grabs you

[eternal talon]

like a LFD2 jockey?

[burnt wren]

Like that tentacle thing from Deep Rock Galatic

[past matrix]

more like this

it's already been confirmed awhile back that they were working on an enemy like that

[eternal talon]

they just sort of hold you in place and you play repeating animations though

they are more of an environmental hazard than an enemy type

[burnt wren]

Still can be shot though

[quick coyote]

How is he innaccurate??

[burnt wren]

A turret is still an enemy

[burnt wren]

Frossty has a big issue with Roanoke coming to conclusion that the mutatnts have something to do with fungus, because we have exactly 0 evidence to this

[eternal talon]

he says the parasites/virus are an alien fungus then deletes comments posting the logs, he also misquotes several entries from the logs and wiki

[past matrix]

also keep in mind we haven't actually seen the thing in-gameplay yet; i highly doubt our character in-game is as shaky as that in-game

[eternal talon]

well yes, that's how you fight them in DRG

flare the roofs of caves and mow them down, or bring a passive that nullifies them

[south lake]

You know what would be an excellent Rundown completion reward?

That mask without the tentacles.

[burnt wren]

I'm sure that's going to happen one way or another

[eternal talon]

we already have it

[south lake]

Do we?

[eternal talon]

i don't remember what it's called

let me check the wiki

[burnt wren]

It does look familiar to me

[south lake]

I've yet to see any masks that have a fully opaque visor like that

[quick coyote]

Well no one has a perfect memory, i also think his anatomy breakdowns are pretty on point.

[eternal talon]

it's not opaque in-game, but we do have that exact helmet

it's the falcon

[south lake]

Hmm.

[burnt wren]

Convex Falcon Mark I

[eternal talon]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Apparel

[burnt wren]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/8/85/Convex_Falcon_Mark_I.png/revision/latest?cb=20220206210928

[south lake]

Would that it were, that visor looks almost armored

[eternal talon]

yes

[south lake]

Like it's using some kind of external AR system to feed visual data back to the person wearing it

Would be cool

[eternal talon]

i posted a response to a deleted comment the other day. he went out of his way to delete comments correcting him.

let me see if i can find it

^ here

[south lake]

To be fair, Frostty, you did mention previously that you flooded his comments section.

[past matrix]

there's a lot of masks that aren't in-game but have the wacky armored visors

i wish we got them

[south lake]

Aye, that's what I would love to have

[burnt wren]

i want one

i hate see through glass

NO SKIN

[south lake]

The armored visors take away the "human" factor by making the eyes visible, sure

[eternal talon]

not on that video, on the previous one

i made one post and responded to others in the comments asking for questions and posting links

[south lake]

But there's no reason that KDS couldn't have something like armored rebreathers

And if KDS has it, we could probably find discarded ones in the facility

[eternal talon]

scorpion is really the only option for that

[quick coyote]

You mean something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIfKIHWkNy8

[south lake]

Without the shine

If you look at the gif, that visor looks like it's got armor plating over it

Flat matte black, with divets that could possibly hold AR cameras to feed the visual data back to the wearer on the inside of the visor

[quick coyote]

Ahh i get what you mean

[south lake]

Given the timeline and all the fancy shit we've got going on in-game, an armored rebreather with an AR visor built in is like the least unlikely thing

[eternal talon]

they are basically just construction worker style dust filters afik

they aren't gas masks or anything of the sort

[south lake]

True, but it would also make sense for KDS operatives to have something like that anyway

AR visors would allow quick and easy IFF identification without needing to pester someone for a badge or ID card

And given they really clamped down on security at one point

[quick coyote]

So like the ADF-01 Falken except a helmet.

[south lake]

They'd be able to tell if someone was just some Santonian bit-jockey by glancing at them, and stop them if they're trying to get into a restricted zone

[eternal talon]

they dont' really need to do that anyway, the biocom system automatically managed most of the facility

along with hearsay, Kovac probably know every last thing that was ever said or done

[dense obsidian]

Lore question, for the cfoam. Theyre used by the original security team to put down any riots and stuff right?

[south lake]

Regardless, AR visors would be useful for things like vital readouts, ammunition count, etc.

[eternal talon]

it's construction foam

[dense obsidian]

I see

[south lake]

Wirelessly linked systems would be able to just project that shit on the "screen", saving time and effort

[eternal talon]

it's not meant for riots or anything. it's for maintenance

[dense obsidian]

Like the ramen meme, just sprinkle Cfoam on it and boom. Fixed.

[south lake]

It's basically a cement analogue but in rapidly-drying foam form.

[eternal talon]

the joke is, it used to look like it was a "different kind" of c-foam

[south lake]

That kind of white looks very "Missing Texture"-y

[eternal talon]

//insert lunar new-year helmet bug here//

[south lake]

Still mad I missed that by a day.

That mask looked slick.

[eternal talon]

ehh, imo it looks pretty bad,

and it's not colorable,

so it doesn't work with just about anything

[south lake]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Different strokes for different folks

[burnt wren]

Hence why it is my currently most used helmet and i absolute love it

[eternal talon]

as is mine

[burnt wren]

Now i just need more armor

i use the kevlar + big pants for that military operator look

But its starting to get sad that i basically have no viable alternatives

[eternal talon]

//primer grid model I//

[burnt wren]

Everything else is fucking TF2 scout

[eternal talon]

//sharp teeth//

[south lake]

I got a bit lucky with the apparel drops and got the Kovac Pro-Car Elite jacket

[eternal talon]

and //outwear compact utility//

is what i've got

[south lake]

Rockin' that cyber hand and PMC look

[burnt wren]

Primer Grid Model I

[eternal talon]

the bullet-proof vest

[burnt wren]

Yep

I guess it doesnt make sense against enemies that bite...

Although maybe blocks shooters?

[south lake]

Also running the Insight Canteen Runner pack, because honestly those make more sense for retrieving relics than some random trashed backpack <<

[eternal talon]

could have been standard issue for the guards on the surface

[burnt wren]

I really like the way Cargo Composite looks, but can't remember if that's what i have...

[eternal talon]

cargo composite and sharp teeth are the same set

they are the cargopants

[burnt wren]

I think i got their pocket-less brother

[burnt wren]

Heavy Duty Pioneer

[steel plover]

Is there any way to get Oblique Tigris again?

[south lake]

Not as of yet

[eternal talon]

no

[eternal talon]

never, they said

[south lake]

That's kinda lame

[steel plover]

Very

[burnt wren]

To be fair the mask itself is lame too

[steel plover]

True

[eternal talon]

it's genuinely SO bad

[south lake]

Also, while the Convex Scorpion does look awesome

Holy fuck does it make my neck ache looking at it

[steel plover]

would look ok without stripes

[eternal talon]

these are the ONLY good masks, no exceptions

[burnt wren]

Eh

[steel plover]

No Wetworks nipplehead?

[south lake]

Or Hackett's mask if you're unlucky and can't get the plain version

[burnt wren]

I think Convex Falcon Mark I looks fine

[eternal talon]

no lemon head

[burnt wren]

Might be even my 2nd choice if i'll ever unlock it

but the rest are nah

[steel plover]

The best mask is yellow lemon drip

[burnt wren]

Maybe wood's mask too

[eternal talon]

falcon you can see exposed neck and the back of the head. that's what kills it for me

it's not vampire-proof

[steel plover]

Dauda's mask is pretty much naked

🗿

[burnt wren]

Jesus christ what happened to our hair

[south lake]

Yeah, the lighter masks I would argue are more worker rebreathers

The heavier ones look like shit soldiers might wear

[steel plover]

Fell off due to aids & stingrays(which also have aids)

[south lake]

Convex Scorpion especially, that visor is fucking bolted on

[burnt wren]

scorpion would absolutely be the mask of a heavy style enemy unit

something that rolls in with a heavy machine gun and starts spraying you

[south lake]

Shit looks ready to block bullets

With the faceguard behind it for shatter protection

[burnt wren]

Yep

Weights probably like... 1-2 KGs

[eternal talon]

it's probably standard. like modern militaries having strict hair length requirements

[steel plover]

The heavier ones look like pilot's helmets

[burnt wren]

would be pain to wear, but you probably feel unstoppable with that thing on your face

[south lake]

Convex Falcon would probably be for scouts tbh

[steel plover]

From experience we military hate wearing heavy gas masks

[eternal talon]

nahhh, mammoth is scouting, 100%

[steel plover]

🗿

[south lake]

Not what I meant

[burnt wren]

So i heard

[south lake]

If you're scouting as part of a military operation you don't want hoods

[steel plover]

It constricts vision and breathing a lot

[south lake]

You want clear sightlines

[burnt wren]

Limits visibility, hot, sweat, can't scratch...

[south lake]

And the Falcon has that in spades for a rebreather

Plus a narrow profile compared to the others

[steel plover]

All of those

[south lake]

Which would allow cleaner movement through gaps and shit

Less chance of catching and losing your rebreather on a rock

Or breaking the seal

[eternal talon]

but seriously, who the hell thought lemon head was a good idea?

[finite vine]

I mean it just looks like he's trying to escape tbh. like hes stuck or something.

[eternal talon]

and that's NEW! hackett NEVER had a lemon head before r6

[south lake]

That honestly looks almost SCBA-ish in design

[steel plover]

BEST MASK

[south lake]

Like it was ripped off a hazmat suit

Also can I just say

I appreciate how tight the straps look on most masks, with their faces all scrunched up underneath

Means the 10CC devs actually give a shit about presenting the look of a secure seal over the face

If your rebreather isn't pushing on your face, your seal isn't secure

And you're gonna inhale aaaaaaalll sorts of bad shit

That's what I was taught at least. No pressure means chance of slippage, slippage means exposure.

[rocky wraith]

Me

[past matrix]

i mean you know what they say:

mask realism > gameplay

[pearl trench]

The lemon head has many fans, and thus it was a good idea

[eternal talon]

opinions? it's not bad, but it really is palette dependent since you can't color the yellow

[finite vine]

The masks don't look like they utilize rebreathers. its probably just some simple filter or something.

[livid grotto]

chad lemon head

[burnt wren]

The only thing that bothers me is that i can see the operator's ugly face

If it was like it is on promotional images - i would love it

[south lake]

Several of them look like they have hookups for a rebreather tank, otherwise I would agree

[burnt wren]

But the fucking DERANGED EYES absolutely kill it for me

[eternal talon]

honestly you shouldn't be able to see their face on ANY of the masks

[burnt wren]

Yep, why even bother

[south lake]

To be fair, they are plenty deranged

[eternal talon]

i mean look at this shit!

[burnt wren]

The man's dead inside

[pearl trench]

Looks like a white guy in a mask

[south lake]

You would be too in that situation

Dead inside, I mean.

[burnt wren]

Maybe, maybe not

[pearl trench]

They should smile more 😔

[south lake]

It would take one hell of a strong mind to not break after being repeatedly shoved in a perpetually dark hellhole filled to the brim with ungodly monstrosities that want to kill and eat(?) you

[burnt wren]

The Only Thing I Know For Real starts playing as sleepers approach

[pearl trench]

God I hope viklund gives us a new banger

[south lake]

Plus the fact that they don't even get a chance to express their humanity by protesting, refusing to go down, etc.

It's just snap

You're in your pod, you're going down

That's it

[burnt wren]

We need more characters who are just unironically into it

[pearl trench]

Woods is as close to that as I want to see

[south lake]

The psychological strain of a situation like GTFO would be fucking unreal

[pearl trench]

wake up
can't remember shit
what's this thrill ride bullshit
objective?
oh bollocks

[south lake]

Pretty sure like 90% of people that got put into that kind of scenario would just mentally break into a thousand little pieces after a certain amount of expeditions, since past that point the only thing you'd be able to remember is flashes of gunfire, screaming hordes, blood guts and viscera

Alarms, floating things

[burnt wren]

Absolutely

[south lake]

Your mind would buckle under the strain

[burnt wren]

But woods is indeed pretty close to getting fine with it

[south lake]

Woods I would argue is the one person who should not ever go free

For that simple fact

Because the dude isn't in the process of breaking, he's outright broken

[burnt wren]

I think its more so he made peace with it

[south lake]

I wouldn't be so sure

[burnt wren]

That's his life now, and his lore does seem to imply that he's into it

[south lake]

People get an eerie kind of calm around them when they go psycho sometimes

The kind of calm that just screams "GET AWAY"

[rocky wraith]

The squads are preemptively broken through conditioning. Every time they go down they reclaim little bits of their memory

[south lake]

Sure, but memory loss is not what I'm talking about

[burnt wren]

Woods and Hackett are 2 people in the team who seem to be into this

[dim scroll]

Which one is going into the complex because he thinks of it as a way of salvation ?

Was it hackett ?

[burnt wren]

I think so, yeah

[dim scroll]

Man legit doesn't give a fuck

[burnt wren]

He literally voluntereed

[south lake]

What I'm talking about is an effect that would be similar, if not indistinguishable from wartime PTSD on the surface

Assuming they don't snap and go batshit, ofc

[burnt wren]

Shot some civies
Didn't feel a damn
Hm, maybe something's not right with me, hey doc can you turn me into a human drone please?

[south lake]

The folks we play as in GTFO are most definitely societal outliers

Unique in their ability to just not fucking care

[dim scroll]

Dauda definitely is more than an outlier

[burnt wren]

Bishop ended up there through very fucked up means, i think he wants to be there the least

[rocky wraith]

Duada repentant

[burnt wren]

Don't know what's up with Dauda

[dim scroll]

He triggered a genocide

that monkey

We have a psycho

[burnt wren]

But personally woods is my favorite so far

[dim scroll]

a fanatic

& 2 other baboons

[south lake]

Bishop has some conditioning, IIRC

[burnt wren]

Religious
Believes in personal responsibility

[south lake]

Would explain why he hasn't broken yet

[burnt wren]

If only he didn't had that one accident...

Makes no sense what happened there either

[dim scroll]

"Woods, Isaiah F-2056

Isaiah Woods was a religious man of honor and courage who saw too much. The brutality of combat changed him from a spiritual man to a ticking time bomb. When his fuse finally burned down, he went on a rampage and justified it as divine retribution for the evils he saw around him. Even now, with no memory of the carnage he wrought, he feels the presence of God flowing through him. Some fires burn too deep to smother."

"Dauda, Abeo T-3701

A brilliant young mind. A groundbreaking researcher. A pillar of the scientific community. Nigerian-born psychopharmacologist Abeo Dauda was all of those things before his obsessive ambition broke his moral compass. Dauda’s blindness to the human cost of his experiments made him indispensable to unscrupulous drug companies. As long as they stayed out of his way, he didn’t question them. By the time he realized the depravity of the people he worked for, it was too late."

"Hackett, Aiden O-4711

The first person to admit Hackett isn’t cut out for this world is Hackett. Even as a child, his feral mind was a deadly force. When he joined the military, discipline loosened the grip of his dark impulses, but nature always finds a way. Inevitably, Hackett’s instinctive cruelty was unleashed on a peacekeeping mission that couldn’t have gone more wrong. Clear-eyed about his actions, Hackett knew that redemption would cost him life as he knew it."

"Bishop, Frank GO-1395

A lifetime ago, Frank Bishop made a losing bet. He’d robbed, kidnapped, and trafficked in a bid for fortune and power. This time, it was blackmail, but things didn’t go to plan. His target turned the tables, condemning him to years of brutal captivity. The torture and deprivation he endured ended with Bishop suffering an even worse fate: Hydrostasis. Now, unable to remember the man who destroyed him, he’s left with only the rage and mistrust that sustained his tragic existence. "

[south lake]

And honestly, that would be the most believable scenario I feel. I doubt the WRDN would give them any significant downtime between expeditions

And would just run them ragged until they either broke or overcame the stress

[dim scroll]

'k woods is the fanatic

[rocky wraith]

Woods already severely self harms even post-conditioning

[burnt wren]

I like the zealot types, i'm surprised he doesn't make any remarks to sleepers being demons or something going full doomguy on them

He's like that fallout guy, only more insane...

[dim scroll]

He probably forgot what demons are

[burnt wren]

What the hell was his name.... Joshua Graham?

[south lake]

But yeah.. Were anyone else save the KSOs in their situation, they probably would be nothing but a babbling mess after a couple expeditions

[burnt wren]

BIOCOM was supposed to help with that

Human drones and all that

But i guess warden doesn;'t keep as much of a grip anymore

[south lake]

Mm, I don't think so

All it was supposed to do I think was "drive" the KSOs

For lack of a better term

Military conditioning and training would allow the KSOs to more easily slip into a passive role and let BIOCOM direct them

[burnt wren]

That would mean that current playable KSOs are a completely different concept from log KSOs

[south lake]

Our current cast aren't KSOs.

[burnt wren]

They absolutely are, bishop literally was one in the logs

[south lake]

The KSOs are part of Project Legion, from what I remember

And our characters aren't

Bishop might have been a candidate at one point, but idk what happened there

Actual KSOs are implied to be rather mindless, IIRC

[burnt wren]

Well, that's how they are supposed to be

[south lake]

Yes, but for some reason or another Bishop is quite talkative

[burnt wren]

But someone mentioned that constant pressure of combat situations does something to them that slowly causes the old personalities to re-emerge

Breaking the conditioning with each sleeper encounter

[rocky wraith]

yup

[south lake]

Hm.

[burnt wren]

Hence why our - at this point veteran - main cast even have banter during missions

[eternal talon]

wdym? our group are all KSOs except for dauda

[south lake]

🤔

[eternal talon]

hackett was recruited, bishop and woods was forced into the program,

[rocky wraith]

The hsu properly still messes them up

[eternal talon]

dauda was the only one who wasn't indoctrinated

[burnt wren]

HSU wipes your memories.
BIOCOM takes advantage of that to insert itself into the mind and take control.

probably some more shenanginas at play like brain chips or something but there's not enough info

[south lake]

Wait, you're right. I was misremembering.

And, most likely the Neural Cortex is what allows WRDN to "drive" them

The "stack" (assuming Cortical Stack) is - going by logs mentioning the stacks - what updates orders

It's probably something along the lines of - bear with me - an RTS

[eternal talon]

When does the next log unlock btw?

[south lake]

It probably doesn't control how the KSOs do something

Just that they do it

Like.. strong subconscious urges, like when you need the loo or something. You get an urge to go to the bathroom that gets stronger as you hold off.

If it controls VIA that method, it's probably similar to that, except WRDN is likely able to crank that to 11 so the body is basically screaming "DO THIS NOW"

[harsh saffron]

<t:1655211600:f>

[south lake]

Possibly also positive/negative conditioning of some kind, where listening to WRDN/BIOCOM dumps endorphins into the system

And refusing.. well

Causes WRDN/BIOCOM to direct a shitload of sleepers to your location to kill you.

[eternal talon]

Tommorrow, okay

[eternal talon]

Time zone? Or just est?

[harsh saffron]

thats your timezone, its the discord thingy

[south lake]

Also can I just say

I really hope they stop with the fog-flooded rooms in the next rundown

That's just outright not fun

[eternal talon]

Allens, I need em', I want em', I gotta have em'

[south lake]

Doesn't matter if it's infection fog or not

[eternal talon]

R2 was the start of the foglands

[south lake]

Completely and totally taking away the player's ability to see as a gameplay mechanic is just.. bad design.

[eternal talon]

Every rundown has always had a lot of fog after r2 came out, and I mean a LOT. I wouldn't expect it to be any different for r7

[south lake]

And I do mean totally. I can't even see an inch in front of the character's face when a room is flooded with fog

And turning on the flashlight just makes it blindingly white

[eternal talon]

Even r1 had a fair bit of fog, though it wasn't infectious

[south lake]

Sure, but doing that for almost every room?

That's fucking awful

It makes me more likely to go "Right, fuck this" and go play something else than deal with the frustration of not being able to see jack shit for the entirety of an hour-long level

[eternal talon]

Usually I'd say about 6 out of 10 rooms had some level of fog to them, are 2 out of 10 were pure fog

[south lake]

Making us dip down into "over your head" levels of fog

Fine

Making it up to your neck at the most in standard levels, fine

Constantly blinding you with fog?

Not fine

Blocking the player's ability to see in an FPS is just.. no.

At that point you'd be better off just telling me outright to not play the game

[eternal talon]

And that's not levels, some levels are 90% fog, like c2, c3 (near end), 1/3rd of d4, esc

[south lake]

I know. I still think it's shit design when you're taking the player's ability to see away from them on a frequent basis in one level

It's fine to have segments where it's almost impossible to see, to make you look for fog repellers and shit

[eternal talon]

I'm not trying to argue for or against your point, I'm just saying it's kind of an established thing after 2 years that it's more or less what to expect

[burnt wren]

The accident when one of KSOs tells some random staff member "to stop" lives rent-free in my mind... What the hell was BIOCOM trying to achieve there.

[south lake]

It really shouldn't be something we expect from 10CC

I'd like to trust them to put fun (and the story ofc) first, and blinding the player for 90% of a level is not that.

[burnt wren]

I mean, fog is just darkness that cant be countered with flashlight

Mechanics wise

I don't mind entire levels based around it as it provides a unique challenge, but dont expect me to replay that

[south lake]

Yeah, and the darkness is a mitigatable threat. Fog is not when it blankets the entire level.

[eternal talon]

Given some of gtfo's most notorious levels were fog levels, I'd almost certainly bet that e1 is a fog level

[burnt wren]

I've beaten D3 PE today and dear god the fucking foooooooooooooog

[eternal talon]

If they are reintroducing e-tier, it just wouldn't make sense for it not to be.

[south lake]

Which means levels blanketed with blinding fog need to not.

The game has too little replayability as it is after a certain point. We don't need official levels taking that away even more.

[eternal talon]

All levels are official levels unless you are talking about that which shall not be named

[south lake]

Don't go there.

[burnt wren]

I'm sure some people like the fog levels

But they are masochists

[eternal talon]

And I really treat this game as more of a "play it every time a new rundown comes out then go play something else until next one comes" rather than binge it

[burnt wren]

That is how its supposed to be played, unless you really like shooting sleepers

[south lake]

RIP sustainability, then.

[eternal talon]

I'm just saying it as it is. This is the way the game is meant to be

[eternal talon]

I remember reading a post somewhere they were having internal talks about how to handle the game at the very end of support years down the line

[burnt wren]

There are arguments to make for both sides, but personally i'm sick of live service games already

Each one expects me to dedicate my life to them

Okay, i can manage maybe two

[south lake]

Oh I absolutely do not want them to go the live service route

[burnt wren]

But after that its insane

[south lake]

I'm not saying that at all

A game doesn't need to be live service to be sustainable

[burnt wren]

But that is how you "sustain" an audience and why companies like EA claim that single player is dead

But you're right, there are games that found balance in this

like L4D with their patented game-director system

[south lake]

Implying that Live Service is the only way to "sustain an audience" is dishonest tbh

There's many, many cases to the contrary

[burnt wren]

Well, most of them got something to do with RNG

L4D's director, XCOM's RNG

[south lake]

I mean shit, more than a few people still play stuff like NWN in this day and age

[burnt wren]

...mods...

[south lake]

You absolutely do not have to rely on grind or Live Service to sustain your game audience

[burnt wren]

DLCs?

[south lake]

No, I'm not talking about DLCs either.

Stop thinking monetization.

There was an entire era of games that had zero monetization and still had long shelf lives for chrissake

[burnt wren]

Well its either that game periodically gets something new for players to do, or there's a mechanic in there that keeps the game fresh and unstagnated even during multiple playthroughs

[south lake]

This is what's wrong with development today.

It doesn't have to be "fresh and unstagnated" if it's fun

[burnt wren]

XCOM solved that with RNG that randomises how the game is started, how it progresses, what issues the player must solve

[south lake]

If it's fun people will keep coming back to it

[burnt wren]

As opposed to - i don't know - half-life

[south lake]

They might take breaks, but that's fine, that's healthy

[burnt wren]

Although its so fucking fun to replay half-life even these days...

I'm still terrified of Ravenholm, although i got more apathic in my early 20's

[south lake]

It's perfectly normal for game communities to have dips in population, and I'm tired of developers acting like it's not and needing to keep those numbers up, keep people engaged and constantly pushing for new content, new this, new that, come do this, come do that

That's how you get community burnout

And then they don't come back

[burnt wren]

Warframe moment

Still didnt even touch sisters of parvos

[dim scroll]

DRG moment

[south lake]

Just.. bleugh.

Sorry.

I guess I needed to get that out. Just so tired of shit bludgeoning people over the head with "NEW THINGS" every week/month/whatever

[burnt wren]

If it wasn't profitable they wouldn't be doing it, which means that they have evidence to point to that it does. Irrelevant of what we actually think of it.

[south lake]

It's tiring. Just let people have their fun!

Quit trying to usher them along like it's some fucking theme park

[burnt wren]

But they do believe that people have fun

[south lake]

Let me rephrase

Let them have their fun at their own pace

Ushering people along just makes them jaded and disinterested, because why get involved in something if it's just gonna get yoinked away because "whoops sorry didn't do XYZ fast enough, on to the next thing"

It somewhat feels like this as well with GTFO, to be perfectly honest

I really hope that at some point they go back to the old Rundowns and bring them back into the fold

Picking up a book only to find out you can only read the last chapter isn't as enjoyable as going through the whole thing, you know?

And I really feel like that should at the least be the priority one thing they do for "End of Life" support, is to make all the past rundowns available

[uneven wharf]

Bishop dies\

DId you guys know

Next update

[eternal talon]

games like fallout 1 did this perfectly

you were timed for your campaign but it was fun

because there was a reason for it that made sense

not just to pad playtime with grinding

[hot burrow]

Late to the party. I saw you guys were talking about helmets and how you want some to be added. This is one I’m hoping for

Tbh idk what they are going to do about the tube

[burnt wren]

Looks familiar

I think they already added it, just downgraded

Or... Maybe not. Not even close

[hot burrow]

It has not been added at all

[burnt wren]

Woods helmet has similar shape, but that's where similiriaties end.

Couldn't find anything that matches. That's clearly a helmet and not a naked head and it's too smooth...

[finite vine]

I wonder if we are ever gonna have to use filters or oxygen on our masks or not...

[eternal talon]

where did this picture even come from?

[eternal talon]

we don't have gas masks, so probably not

[finite vine]

well it looks like filters can be added with the long tubes in the art and such

I know a oxygen mechanic was in development in the past

[hot burrow]

Steam background

[eternal talon]

they are dust filters. similar look, different purpose

[eternal talon]

huh. from steam trading cards?

[hot burrow]

Yes

[eternal talon]

cool

[finite vine]

yea but I wonder if we are ever gonna need some beefy filters for some environmental hazard

[eternal talon]

that, i don't know.

[hot burrow]

This helmet would also be fire to see

[eternal talon]

but given we didn't have them for the toxic fog over the past 2 years, i don't think it would be that high of a priority

[eternal talon]

okay that one is badass

[hot burrow]

But the same thing. The tube coming off it

[eternal talon]

maybe they are part of a cosmetic set, rather than individual pieces?

[hot burrow]

I doubt that. I guess we will have to wait and see for this one

And the other one

[eternal talon]

regardless, they are really, REALLY cool

[hot burrow]

Mhm

[eternal talon]

something like that is already 10x better than most of the cosmetic heads we have currently in game

though i'd still be worried, they hyped up the tigris helmet in artwork to look cool, but in-game it doesn't look good on the character models at all

[hot burrow]

Ya. The orange is too bright

[hot burrow]

It looks more dull

[eternal talon]

that, and it's alot smaller in-game than it would seem in the art

much less form fitting and it just looks ugly

[hot burrow]

I just realized it has a tube

[eternal talon]

i don't know if it does in-game

[past matrix]

when are we getting this in-game

[eternal talon]

that looks cool, but not for me

really heavy xenomorph vibes

[hot burrow]

I kinda of hope they keep the tube

It looks fitting for this helmet

[eternal talon]

nah, they cut the tube

it just looks so terrible in-game

nothing like the art

it looks like the pog face

it's just dreadful

[hot burrow]

Eh. It’s alright, it will probably look better when the non painted one is added

I kinda of wish they stuck with the scavenger theme for the characters

[eternal talon]

where are these from?

[hot burrow]

The gtfo documentary

[eternal talon]

documentary?

[hot burrow]

Yes

It’s on the 10 chambers YouTube channel

[eternal talon]

ah

they've got a lot of videos on there

[hot burrow]

Mhm

This old concept art is pretty cool. The characters look like they fit in with the game

[eternal talon]

in old pre-rundown 1 footage on their yt some of the characters have m16s and stuff

[hot burrow]

Ya. Place holder items

I think the only weapon form the pre alpha that did not change was the revolver. It had a few changes but keep the same design

Tbh I prefer the old smg design

And shotgun

[finite vine]

yea I agree. it fits the whole "take what the warden doesn't want" theme from the first trailer

[eternal talon]

it sounds kind of minor, but i wish they'd let us customize the color of the sights on our guns

[hot burrow]

Eh

Would be an interesting thing

[eternal talon]

like the shotgun has blue sights, the har has blue sights, the bullpup has orange, the choke shotgun has orange, the ar has red,

[hot burrow]

Mhm

[eternal talon]

would be nice to just have them be uniform to fit with whatever character customization you have on

also, would really like to see the option to use some of the old combat music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYT3TqMUE_c

[hot burrow]

Now this is something interesting. (From ROG Global YT) probably won’t see this return but would of made an interesting threat

[eternal talon]

i can't tell what it is

[hot burrow]

It looks like some robot arm is lifting up the character

By the throat

[eternal talon]

there are deactivated robots all over the place in r6

[hot burrow]

Maybe it was meant to be a malfunctioning automated defense system

That just stabbed the player in the throat

[eternal talon]

would be nice also to have some levels with automated turrets and stuff that shoot at the players, ala half life

maybe mines aswell

environmental hazards

[hot burrow]

Probably would just be an annoyance

Trying to run away and you just get shoot by a random turret

[eternal talon]

well it'd be something new to try and fight

a new challenge

something different than only sleepers

[hot burrow]

Ya

Maybe what ever this worm like creature is could spice up the gameplay

Speaking of which. Someone was kind enough to upload the gif in media

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585063132553281556/986043052361678958/GTFOFreeWeekend.gif

[eternal talon]

already got it

[minor wigeon]

[hot burrow]

Thanks bo

[eternal talon]

gotta scroll waaay up in here

we were talking about cosmetics for a while

[eternal talon]

from warden

[hot burrow]

Oh

Did not know it was already uploaded

[eternal talon]

we were talking about it a couple of hours ago

sorry

[hot burrow]

Your fine

He looks like he’s struggling

[eternal talon]

honestly it could be either, but my initial impressions is it looks like he is being unwillingly puppeted

some new mutation of the parasite

as some of the tentacles appear to be coming from the mask itself, if you look under it when the KSO looks upward

[hot burrow]

I’m kinda of getting that feeling too. But it could because you know… he has a bunch of worms on him, probably eating him

I’m thinking it’s just a standalone worm. That swarms a player and does that to them

God I just want it to drop already

[eternal talon]

we don't know what the parasites look like yet either

[hot burrow]

This enemy looks like fun

[eternal talon]

well we are supposed to get 2 more logs before the rundown drops

[hot burrow]

Mmmm

[eternal talon]

i don't know if it actually will be a new enemy

just thinking about it, but kinda doubting it now because of how different it'd be

[hot burrow]

Hmm

[eternal talon]

best bet would be some kind of setpiece or environmental thing

[hot burrow]

I’ve been thinking that too

[eternal talon]

rather than get my hopes too high and fly too close to the sun

[hot burrow]

Could be a new stationary threat

[eternal talon]

if that, i have no idea

it could just be promotional material and not show up in the rundown at all

[hot burrow]

Could be something that slows the player down

Wraps them up

[eternal talon]

look at the tentacle thing from the early access trailer

[hot burrow]

?

[eternal talon]

this is an addon to-

[eternal talon]

-this

[hot burrow]

Hm

The more I look at the gif. The more and more it looks like worms

[past matrix]

IIRC it was mentioned at one point that they had an idea of having like sentries that did wacky shit

so like

[hot burrow]

I heard about that

[past matrix]

yeah

also

[past matrix]

this isnt promotional material that wasnt shown in the rundown

it was just cut content from years before early access

a better example would be the R4 Extension key art

where it showed what looked like a Dam in the complex and there were also oil-less chargers

[hot burrow]

That

[eternal talon]

post pls?

i didn't play 4 and 5

[past matrix]

uno second i gotta dig up the old press kit

[hot burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513080321986789407/838401918199267388/unknown.png here’s the 1st version of it

I don’t have the second one tho

It has the old shooter and charger models

[eternal talon]

first thought,

why the fuck does the scout have leather pants?

[hot burrow]

1 shooter, and 2 that’s the old shooter texture

Kinda of cool ngl. Would be neat to see that texture return

[past matrix]

you can see the dam thing in the background

[hot burrow]

Mmm that one

[past matrix]

pretty sure there was a bigger one

[hot burrow]

Maybe

This is my favorite key art they have done

[past matrix]

same

I remember speculating it was floodways back when extension got released

i think it sucks that we didn't actually get to see that tile

[hot burrow]

It could be added. Just part of something different

[past matrix]

there's honestly a lot of shit they've shown i hope they add/bring back

environment wise

like these tiles

[hot burrow]

I remember this one

Fit the theme so well

[eternal talon]

that is beautiful

[finite vine]

yea I made a suggestion hopping they would bring it back. it looks so dope.

[hot burrow]

This is one of my favorites

[eternal talon]

that's great

[hot burrow]

Wish the cocoons turned out like this

Looks like aliens with the face hugger eggs

Trying to sneak past without setting them off

[finite vine]

yea same

[keen mantle]

Wait that’s a thing?! And they actually do something?!

[hot burrow]

It’s the cocoons

Ig that’s how they were going to work

But ended up being re worked into the ones we have now

[finite vine]

unfortunately

[dull crest]

It will

[vocal cove]

OH WHAT?!

[solar nova]

Like the mapper?

[dull crest]

Oh shit, forgot about that. Taking back the new danger. Shelving it.

[solar nova]

Such is the tradition.

[keen mantle]

Lol

[keen mantle]

What’s the mapper?

[solar nova]

Hold on...

Still doesn't work.

Lemme find the vid...

This timestamp: @keen mantle
https://youtu.be/-vSYJckIfi8?t=28

[keen mantle]

Ok. Jesus. That end scared the crap outta me

But the mapper is really interesting

I’m watching that video again! It gave me tons of chills and makes me feel as if I’m right there

[dull crest]

It is an awesome, five year old video.

[keen mantle]

NO kidding! I literally rewatched that 4 times already

It’s fucking EPIC

Now I’m hooked to learn as much lore as possible

[dull crest]

And yet people are frustrated that studios don't talk even more about upcoming stuff 🙂

[solar nova]

No need to get this salty over a joke.

Jesus fuck.

[dull crest]

I was not salty, sorry if it came across as that @solar nova

I tried to riff on the joke.

Failed miserably.

Using smiley to be relaxed. Smiley comes off as sarcastic. Need more coffee

[solar nova]

Fair enough.

[dull crest]

Man. It really is interesting with internet communication.

[keen mantle]

It can be

Sadly… emotions aren’t really… well-versed over internet

In terms of texting

[shut mountain]

I think if you to disable it automatically turning into 🙂 it would help a lot

I can show you where it is in the settings, cause :) definetly feels a lot easier than 🙂 But might just be me.
Also to keep this channel on topic, insert lore question about what do you think Schaeffer can eat down there to survive, does he even wear a mask

[keen mantle]

I think R7 is gunna be Schaeffer controlled

[sonic citrus]

Schaeffer eats roasted spitter meat and striker tongue salami

[dim scroll]

Ah yes, the thing we never saw in game

[past matrix]

D-Lock Block Cipher
Sender: Rutger Werner
Receiver: Dean Lockwood
Date: May 13th 2055
Subject: FYI

Mr. Lockwood,

Raw file below. Decryption attached.

Would you like me to deal with this matter?

Rutger Werner
Acquisitions

ATTACHMENT: HStokesB341_transcript_decrypt.pdf file not found

————————–
Private encryption//SMC mail server
From: Howard Stokes B341
To: Rebecca Stokes B162
Date: May 12th 2055
Subject:

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[burnt wren]

Hm, interesting.

Does it refer to the dog mail?

Sender / receiver are the same.

The Stokes

[past matrix]

maybe

the new email is 3 days before the dog one

maybe they got reprimanded for talking about shit with each other and then started using coded emails like the dog thing