unlocked door
#gtfo-lore
eternal talon
lilac island
like it wants us to make sure it's really dead
analog frigate
which differentiates it from whatever schaeffer beat to death
since i didn't hear a gunshot in the log
could've shot it after to make sure it was dead
lilac island
real talk, are we sure there's only one mimic
solar patio
which differentiates it from whatever schaeffer beat to death
unless it didn't die
analog frigate
unless it didn't die
then there still would be clear signs of blunt force trauma
like a lot
analog frigate
real talk, are we sure there's only one mimic
no
but it would be weird for there to be two
lilac island
unclear what it is. Some sort of weird, sentient mutant thing?
analog frigate
the only sleeper that can talk
floral lance
They assume the mimic is the creature you hear taking to Schaffer in most audio logs
subtle verge
If we are giving good will and say that Subject 22 is the Mimic, then there are tens of them at least, as we see a pile of corpses with that same exact description and model in R5e.
analog frigate
and has a higher cognitive function that just instincts
eternal talon
the only sleeper that can talk
i mean technically we don't know if it's even a sleeper, new logs call it a mutant
analog frigate
i mean technically we don't know if it's even a sleeper, new logs call it a muta...
it definitely is a sleeper
the pale skin gives it away
floral lance
We’ve seen the bodies previously in r4 and r5 so subject 22 isn’t unique per day but his condition is unique
eternal talon
the pale skin gives it away
making every nerd, albino, and vampire in here cry
also subject 22 is plae
plae
fuck
pale
also, i'm white as hell, my natural skin color is closer to subject 22 than most, pale skins doesn't count for anything
solar patio
also, i'm white as hell, my natural skin color is closer to subject 22 than most...
lol frosttys a sleeper
eternal talon
you also know who else has blue veins?
EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH
check your wrist right now
analog frigate
green
eternal talon
everybody in chat
analog frigate
your not human
isn't that far off
eternal talon
mine aren't cyan at all, they are like blue-blue
serene fractal
Is this a gunshot at the end of the clip or was that not from the log?
eternal talon
maybe a lighter blue, but certainly blue
solar patio
you also know who else has blue veins?
Especially if you were trapped underground your entire existence and extremely malnourished.
abstract ledge
Don't worry, we feed the sleepers plenty of 4-stack squads of expendables
solar patio
You're gonna be pale so blue veins are more visible.
solar patio
Don't worry, we feed the sleepers *plenty* of 4-stack squads of expendables
I mean if you count all the sleepers we've ever seen. there's no way they get enough to eat.
way too many.
eternal talon
funny enough,
one of the new logs says Schaeffer found a hundred of them in the commissary
oop,
subtle verge
Blue veins in humans don't exist, just so that's clear. We're all red, we only see blue because our skin blocks the majority of light from our insides.
finger guns
subtle verge
The only blue blood that I'm aware of comes from horseshoe crabs. I'm sure there are more.
eternal talon
The only blue blood that I'm aware of comes from horseshoe crabs. I'm sure there...
the elites have blue blood
or maybe thats grunts
floral lance
Has anyone talked about how at the start of CX state of truth radio talks about possible viruses or pathogens released by garganta and then how Schaffer or the mimic screams I AM THE VRIUS in DX? Are they related in some way? Is the virus a state of mind or is it really a viral disease infecting people
eternal talon
anyway, @subtle verge both Schaeffer logs are above
subtle verge
Checking now.
eternal talon
Has anyone talked about how at the start of CX state of truth radio talks about ...
he was right, but not in the way he expected, about garganta being the end of earth
^ in KDS deep
in da vents
floral lance
he was right, but not in the way he expected, about garganta being the end of ea...
This doesn’t answer my question. Thanks anyway.
lilac island
in da vents
quick someone make an imposter joke
eternal talon
eternal talon
Has anyone talked about how at the start of CX state of truth radio talks about ...
NAM-V is an actual virus
lotsa people dead
NAM-V + the Parasite is what makes the sleepers
nam-v is the most infectious disease humanity has ever encountered according to the CDC
solar patio
I'm sure that the mimic is some how related to the virus seaN but we just don't know. It could have NAM-V, it could be something that is symbiotic with it the same way the sleepers are, it could be test subject that spread it originally.
A million different things.
lilac island
I would like to take a moment to point out a silly little detail:
BISHOP, FRANK GO-1395
DAUDA, ABEO T-3701
WOODS, ISAIAH F-2056
HACKETT, AIDEN O-4711
Look at the 1st character of their ID tags
lilac island
aww
eternal talon
bishop and woods reveresed
eternal talon
feels great to overdose?
lilac island
feels great to overdose?
Lostty just losty their syringe privileges
solar patio
FTOG
floral lance
NAM-V is an actual virus
But I’m asking if when Schaffer or whomever screams I AM THE VIRUS, is that alluding to something more.
solar patio
That's it
floral lance
Not about the actual virus itself
subtle verge
@eternal talon So clarify with me what the discrepancy is. Your idea is: How did Schaeffer escape KDS Deep if Warden didn't have control of KDS Deep until R5, yet Schaeffer left logs in R4?
eternal talon
But I’m asking if when Schaffer or whomever screams I AM THE VIRUS, is that allu...
who knows, i doubt he actually has NAM-V, HSUs cure it
subtle verge
Am I catching that correctly?
eternal talon
<@385612298045358082> So clarify with me what the discrepancy is. Your idea is: ...
correct
because the log in r4, if i can go fetch that for you...
is when his squad dies and he goes rogue
as a KSO
subtle verge
I listened to them already, yeah.
solar patio
No j don't think he had control, but maybe he had some partial control
Or maybe he already sent a team down to just get sheaffer and a few others.
solar patio
And couldn't completely get control yet for some reason.
eternal talon
to connect him to the terminal
in the first place
at the end of e1
to get access to the HSUs
they are hovering over a giant pit
a team couldn't go grab one and drag it out of KDs deep
besides, lockdown was still in effect when we got there
subtle verge
I'll take a devil's advocate stance with this one for the moment: Simply because the WRDN didn't have access to KDS Deep didn't mean that BIOCOM wasn't active in that area. Schaeffer states that he doesn't know how to wake up the thousands of KSOs, but he recognizes the BIOCOM terminal there. It's plausible that BIOCOM was still active without WRDN's influence, and either chose four completely random HSUs and Schaeffer was the unlucky (or lucky) one of the four, or BIOCOM chose the last four that were thrown into stasis as they were the most recently active.
lilac island
So, here's a thought.
In CX we here Schaeffer sorting through a list of people in HSUs, trying to find a team to help him take down the Warden. What if there's some big storage system that can just pull up any of the HSUs in its system? What if Schaeffer somehow ended up in some big HSU sorting matrix and got pulled out and put on his team?
eternal talon
in the r4 log he specifically states "FUCK THE WARDEN!"
subtle verge
in the r4 log he specifically states "FUCK THE WARDEN!"
That is true. I'd have to think about this one a little bit more.
eternal talon
kso's don't have the free will to go wander off
eternal talon
That is true. I'd have to think about this one a little bit more.
that log also is the one where his team dies and he breaks his programming
floral lance
If it is a one liner it’s pretty good. But idk it feels like it was said on purpose. Like Schaffer and mimic could have talked about the situation in a lot of ways but they used virus specifically. Maybe I’m trying to see more than there is.
eternal talon
it's the Schaeffer log02
lilac island
I didn't play R4, forgive me if I'm incorrect about something
subtle verge
Maybe you're right, maybe there is a discrepancy. I'll think on it some more before I take a true stance.
eternal talon
i'm not saying it's allens, but it's allens.
lilac island
lol
subtle verge
It's hard to really gauge anything without dates/timestamps.
eternal talon
WRDN had to have access to his HSU at some point, and being in lockdown in KDS deep, that just can't happen without outside interference
yes, but he is in the same room we are in in KDS deep in r5e1
he mentions the terminal and the doors
solar patio
It's hard to really gauge anything without dates/timestamps.
I mean no, the log existed before the warden had access to kids deep we know that without exact dates.
lilac island
Stating the facts as we know them
- Schaeffer HSU'd himself in KDS deep, a few days after the big shutdown
- He somehow got pulled out and placed on his own team, presumably after the Warden was activated
- He flees, goes rogue
- Sometime later, the Warden gets access to KDS deep
All of that correct?
eternal talon
Stating the facts as we know them
1. Schaeffer HSU'd himself in KDS deep, a few ...
... yes, it seems so
and given the lockdown, without some form of teleportation, i just don't see how it's possible for him to have gotten out of there
since he didn't do it on his own, HSUs put you in essentially suspended animation
lilac island
meaning even he doesnt know how he got moved
eternal talon
that is also true. we might as well ask
eternal talon
Stating the facts as we know them
1. Schaeffer HSU'd himself in KDS deep, a few ...
@frail pollen is this correct, or a writing error on behalf on the LORE team?
eternal talon
i might as well also ping @dull crest
lilac island
what if he just, went to where the HSUs are
subtle verge
I'm just trying to wrap my head around it all, really. I don't want to say it's a discrepancy, because that's not 10C's style and I highly doubt something that simple would be overlooked like that.
eternal talon
I'm just trying to wrap my head around it all, really. I don't want to say it's ...
it's allens
(only partially jk)
because it seems to be mostly the only plausible answer
serene fractal
Aren't all security doors we come across part of BIOCOM? Even the ones in areas WRDN doesn't have control over?
solar patio
I'm just trying to wrap my head around it all, really. I don't want to say it's ...
Agreed we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
lilac island
the real answer is SOMEHOW he got moved to where the warden can get to him
solar patio
Although that is all we do lol
eternal talon
allens. temporary name for the species of advanced aliens that made the MWP, artifacts, and sent the meteor to earth
analog frigate
Aren't all security doors we come across part of BIOCOM? Even the ones in areas ...
they were BIOCOM controlled
since it had access to garganta's internal systems
eternal talon
that's why i pinged the community manager and d0c, we will just have to wait for an answer, i suppose
analog frigate
although after the attempt to reroute power and such, they limited access
lilac island
i keep forgetting that "aliens did it" is actually a viable answer to stuff in this game and youre not just memeing lol
serene fractal
Right, so then Schaef could still get out
eternal talon
although after the attempt to reroute power and such, they limited access
yes, but the biocom terminal is at the very heart of it, where we specifically go to at the very end of r5e1
in the giant circle room with the pit
i'm sure somebody has a picture.
@harsh saffron you got one from r5e1?
subtle verge
Actually I have a thought here: obviously the HSU pods aren't all stored in one place, and the KSOs are all around the facility. It's plausible that there is a system in place to move HSUs around the facility away from the eyes of workers in the lower level access brackets. I wonder if the place in KDS Deep is more of a "calibration" station than just a storage space.
In theory, it would swap the "ready to go" HSUs with others around the facility.
Far fetched, probably stupid, but I just wanted to throw it out there.
eternal talon
yeah
that's where schaeffer was, since he mentions that terminal
that room is pretty much a dead-end until we unlock it during the mission
we even use one of the HSU lifts that was already sealed up in there from when it was still operational
eternal talon
what if he just, went to where the HSUs are
because he closed the doors to keep the sleepers from getting him, and he couldn't get them back open for some reason
that room is accessible only from one long corridor with two bulkheads doors.
lilac island
right right
eternal talon
discrepancy detected
lilac island
but I need to cross the border
eternal talon
DENIED
lilac island
but
dim scroll
Dunno if anyone posted the new board
analog frigate
maddox is alive?
analog frigate
did it change?
before it was only henrikson
eternal talon
who is maddox
lilac island
??
eternal talon
WHEN did it change
final sentinel
THE GLASS
eternal talon
this last patch?
analog frigate
latest patch note
lilac island
I thought only henrikson was on it
eternal talon
I thought only henrikson was on it
it was
final sentinel
:O
eternal talon
here is old board
eternal talon
they also changed the order on the board
old board, maddox was on the top
did any of the other names change?
analog frigate
all other are crossed out
eternal talon
yes, but are the crossed out names the same
analog frigate
seems so
eternal talon
a name was removed and replaced
the one under henrikson, old board name ended in an A
this one ends in a yf
@analog frigate
nek????a
it's hard to tell
analog frigate
mekennyf
weird name
you have:
langley
g----fh
osgogd?
klviveri
cromorell
loper
henrikson
mekennyf
legller?
maddox
maier
serene fractal
Second one is Griffith
analog frigate
what kind of person has a child and goes like: yep, we are gonna name him klvivery
subtle verge
Kluivery
analog frigate
oh yeah, it has more of a curve
eternal talon
have you seen some Icelandic names? it's a culture thing.
analog frigate
i have
eternal talon
nothing wrong with that
analog frigate
just odd
serene fractal
Langley
Griffith
Osgood
Kluiveri
Cromwell
Lopez
Henrikson
McKenny
Keller
Maddox
Maier
eternal talon
i really hope they don't bring time-travel into this and just say "timelines are changing"
subtle verge
So long as clone theory is gone, we're good.
And, it is.
I'm happy.
CHAD THEORY REIGNS SUPREME.
eternal talon
i just they don't just keep dancing around confirming the **allens **forever.
floral lance
Old photo if anyone needs
serene fractal
Looking at the older photo that's zoomed out further, are any of the surrounding documents legible?
Oh wait the new one is still McKenna
serene fractal
THE NAMES
Langley
Griffith
Osgood
Kluiveri
Cromwell
Lopez
Henrikson
McKenna
Keller
Maddox
Maier
Should be good now
Should those be pinned?
eternal talon
we don't know if they will matter later
serene fractal
I mean
serene fractal
They probably will matter
eternal talon
since they aren't as important for EVERYBODY to see
oh guys i figured it out
@subtle verge i found out how Schaeffer escaped KDS deep
serene fractal
Are there any personnel that we only know the first name of?
eternal talon
https://www.notion.so/f46c0c48ecc14044b46d3093a7bf80cb?v=b161b05ae0c549489a92d244962c4167 @serene fractal
serene fractal
Clearly, Maddox is the name of the bucket. This can be concluded because the name was restored after we located the bucket 
subtle verge
I also tried looking up all of the #0000 identifiers on the new Rise log from CX, but nothing.
It's a whole new identifier system compared to the Letter-Number identifiers.
serene fractal
Unrelated, is there a transcript for the BX audiolog where KSOs find Schaefer leaving a log for Art? I had trouble hearing the operatives over the ambience during my run
subtle verge
Not yet but I can try to get one written out, I suppose?
Generally speaking, transcripts are normally written after the audio logs are ripped and uploaded to the wiki.
serene fractal
Oh, gotcha
subtle verge
It makes it easier to make a transcript as it removes any outside audio from interfering if a word or sentence is hard to hear.
analog frigate
also that log is quite difficult to transcript since the people in the background sound very muffled
it will take some time and a couple people to work on it as to give an accurate transcription
for example how painful it was to try and transcribe the schaeffer/mimic log with the bunch of dialogue
harsh saffron
<@264038706145525761> you got one from r5e1?
Do you still want one?
eternal talon
nah, warden took care of it
harsh saffron
Did I make a mistake while screenshotting/writing down logs or is there a duplicate log in DX?
I'm pretty sure I found 3P0-R1K-5YT in both zone 80 and 82 and they have the same contents.
solar nova
Did I make a mistake while screenshotting/writing down logs or is there a duplic...
Duplicate, found it as well
Was trying to figure out how to differentiate the names and then realized they were identical.
harsh saffron
Ah thx 👍
eternal talon
Did I make a mistake while screenshotting/writing down logs or is there a duplic...
yes, there is a dupe
lilac island
o/ finally back how goes it
eternal talon
it's fine, i suppose
harsh saffron
o/ finally back how goes it
Wb
eternal talon
duck, you read about the recent kidnapping of schaeffer?
harsh saffron
uhh, don't think so
lilac island
lol
eternal talon
Stating the facts as we know them
1. Schaeffer HSU'd himself in KDS deep, a few ...
^
schaeffer post-warden made a log while still asleep in KDS deep an entire rundown before we open KDS deep for the WRDN and lift the lockdown.
and yes, that sentence doesn't make sense, but is correct.
harsh saffron
I mean, hes a pretty cool dude, I believe he can achieve anything he wants 
rich blaze
oh no
eternal talon
what?
lilac island
Hey Frostty, I'm about to go through CX for the audio logs. You in?
eternal talon
not really, sorry.
lilac island
aww
rich blaze
Let's say I'm building up a theory that KDS inserted themselves into Garganta then was fighting for Influence against Insight and SMC
and Nyxos building HSU, and being inserted in the project just a wee bit after KDS
is kinda sus
eternal talon
Let's say I'm building up a theory that KDS inserted themselves into Garganta th...
KDS got into garganta through blackmail
rich blaze
I know
I think State of Truth may have been a false flag
for KDS to go in
then purposefully leak info from SMC/Dreyfus
And I think Nyxos may be linked to KDS too
eternal talon
they were actively tracking and hunting the state of truth guy though
they even sent a helicopter out chasing a guy in the jungle
rich blaze
Yes
eternal talon
mid-broadcast with SOT
rich blaze
they sent an helicopter at the source
not the broadcaster
weird no?
Weird that the source was killed when it started talking about "mercs"
finite vine
it's **allens**
maybe someone human took him out of the HSU. possibly his friend Artus? (i think that’s his name).
rich blaze
Also i think R6B1 was a KDS inside job
eternal talon
maybe someone human took him out of the HSU. possibly his friend Artus? (i think...
the place is under lockdown, and they didn't use the freight elevator, since it's still there when we get there since we use it to escape
they'd have had to drag him in his pod all the way out to WRDN controlled areas, then willingly let the warden take him
finite vine
the place is under lockdown, and they didn't use the freight elevator, since it'...
well the freight elevator can be raised and lowered. so he could of used it. or the vents/ doors. also the elevator was probably deactivated because KDS deep was not active.
eternal talon
drag this 400lb machine miles and miles
eternal talon
well the freight elevator can be raised and lowered. so he could of used it. or ...
after we lifted the lockdown
it wasn't accessable before
finite vine
true
rich blaze
Garganta expedition to the dimension
eternal talon
all of r5 was preparation to retake KDS deep afik
besides, why would his friend rescue him only to then turn around and hand him to WRDN?
after all that effort
finite vine
well we don’t know if he turned him into the WRDN, if he did rescue him.
they could of both been captured.
eternal talon
captured by whom?
finite vine
the WRDN
eternal talon
and what? force them into HSUs?
that's not.. that's a cop out
point being, the entire place was still sealed shut when we got there, alarms, scouts, everything.
sleepers infesting the place
imagine the noise dragging a giant steel coffin would make
dreamy hornet
Do we know how/why the WRDN had access to prisoners at the surface? I don't recall seeing anything commenting on that. Other than thee start up screen saying that we should be decommissioned due to instability.
eternal talon
exactly, one man, who's not even a KSO might i add, did NOT do all of that, get in there, get his one friend, drag him all the way out, then reseal and turn back off all these systems just so we could find them that way.
eternal talon
Do we know how/why the WRDN had access to prisoners at the surface? I don't rec...
KDS deep doesn't store all of the prisonners
only a majority
"Space for 8,000 HSUs for Kovac's Legion Project is granted, and a further 24,000 to be by March, 2052 with the construction of KDS Deep."
from the "for dummies doc"
i'm mid-game, don't want to go hunt down the logs rn
subtle verge
Let's say I'm building up a theory that KDS inserted themselves into Garganta th...
This will be an interesting read.
rich blaze
but for now I need to finish this week 😭
but let's say the idea has been floating around for a while and the more I dig the more things seem
off
subtle verge
Though I'm curious what your thought process is in the idea that Nyxos, a company that's supplying digging components/materials, is in tandem with KDS.
rich blaze
This is why my screenshot was made
lilac island
why does this bucket smell like piss
solar nova
@lilac island Do you have Y6T-UH7-811?
lilac island
what mission is that from
lilac island
Pretty sure we checked every terminal, I didn't see that log
might have missed it?
huh yeah i don't see that log and I remember it being there
guess I need to head back into CX haha
solar nova
Yeah, it's the middle terminal it looks like.
lilac island
yup, I just looked at the videos from each of the recording
no log gotten from that terminal. Welp. Feel like jumping into CX with me?
solar nova
Sure
solar nova
"[...] concrete walls nearly 20m high right onto the seabed floor and then drained out an area that's almost 15 acres [...]"
solar nova
All new audio logs are on the Notion.
PCS alert: *unauthorized access logged*
Date: 06/17/2063
AccessID#: 29$525GVTHR2%456FS
WRDN: override
ready:_
conduit_gather()
updating...
validating dict[ ]…
asset: cerebrospinal_fluid, 15000/15000
asset: X-gen_compound_catalyst, 15000/15000
asset: N-33S_endocrine_stimulator, 15000/15000
asset: NGF_protein, 15000/15000
asset: Nyxos_HSU_NN3_unit, 15000/15000
asset: PID 600/600
assets acquired
conduit_gather(true)
...
simulate(conduit_init(current))…
simulating...
...
0.036% success rate
estimated product stability in 7480 hours 37 minutes
simulate (conduit_init(_rise()))
simulating...
...
0.24% success rate
estimated product stability in 326 hours 14 minutes
…
Complex Power Distribution System connection established
simulate _rise(peak_load, PID[0])...
*request denied*
simulate _rise(peak_load, PID[1])...
*request denied*
simulate _rise(peak_load, PID[2])...
*request denied*
simulate _rise(peak_load, PID[3])...
*request denied*
...too many results. Print stopped...
simulate _rise(peak_load, PID[418])...
*request approved*
...simulating power load: neurogenic cardiac resuscitation * 15,000
...simulating power load: nyxos environment purifiers * 15,000
...simulating power load: neural imprint actuators* 15,000
...simulating power load: HSU depressurizers * 15,000
calculating load…
...
peak_load == 720 MWs
current load = 230MWs
...
init_rise(*.g, *.t, *.f, *.o)
updating init_rise() objectives():
asset: generator_A-01, redirect(HSU vault)
asset: generator_A-03, redirect(HSU vault)
asset: generator_A-05, redirect(HSU vault)
asset: generator_A-07, redirect(HSU vault)
asset: generator_B-01, redirect(HSU vault)
asset: generator_B-03, redirect(HSU vault)
asset: generator_B-05, redirect(HSU vault)
asset: generator_B-07, redirect(neonatal)
wait()
Does this log confirm current year is 2063, btw?
0.036% success rate
0.24% success rate
Also, holy fuck is the WRDN a gambler.
This also might be a release date teaser.
I can't tell if this is a joke.
The game is in 1.0.
But it would be the month and day, since it's the Summer, which is when R7 should drop.
Depends how far along it is, but yeah, fair.
I still can't tell if you're meming.
or if you actually don't know because you've been away.
R6 was the 1.0 release.
Okay, meming.
toxic wagon
rich blaze
> 0.036% success rate
> 0.24% success rate
Also, holy fuck is the WRDN a gamble...
I think it's warden trying to use rise project for "human" resources
Vaguely
Could be
Could be also mimicking KSOs itheard
In any case it looks like it already learnt from us because it started to throw and triggered a scout
harsh saffron
All new audio logs are on the Notion.
Do you mind if I steal them all for the wiki as well?
solar nova
Do you mind if I steal them all for the wiki as well?
Go for it.
harsh saffron
Ray got them all on the notion Database
https://www.notion.so/dc15fa99384d4d549f89de8d64f22585?v=2304fbd499a24c2cbc9c7466cc28ae96&p=680debf6b20a4212a311daccbd5041b3
Its the "Y6T-UH7-811.LOG" that I meant with the mimic following Schaeffer into a room with sleepers
quick grove
Thanks
Ohhhhh shit
Scheaffer giving orders
I would like to see what he meant by that
He gonna get in contact with us 4 get us to turn on the warden
Man fucking killed the mimic
God damn
harsh saffron
yeah that log is probably one of my favourites in the ext
subtle verge
```
PCS alert: *unauthorized access logged*
Date: 06/17/2063
AccessID#: 29$5...
This is interesting, actually. The Warden is forcing .24% probability odds for.. something... and is redirecting power after overloading the failsafe features with a barrage of request loads.
harsh saffron
That one also kinda explains most of the various "collect X" objectives we had over the different Rundowns. And its the same format as the earlier log with the WRDN trying to get access to kds deep, but that was 9 years earlier. So yeah, I would agree 2063 is a very good guess for the current year.
Timeline would be: WRDN tries to access KDS Deep, fails because its missing PIDs and various other things. 9 years later we collected enough samples etc in mostly R4/5 and it can finally open up kds deep when we get there.
dim scroll
...simulating power load: neurogenic cardiac resuscitation * 15,000
...simulating power load: nyxos environment purifiers * 15,000
...simulating power load: neural imprint actuators* 15,000
...simulating power load: HSU depressurizers * 15,000 ```Was that for R5E1's HSUs or another similar structure ?
Or is it purely simulation ?
harsh saffron
I would guess a simulation for KDS deep before actually starting the process (whatever it is)
boreal sleet
There is something funny, I don't know if someone pointed it out but
init_rise(*.g, *.t, *.f, *.o)
GTFO
since it sound like a programming function, (*.g, *.t, *.f, *.o) are arguments of this function, are they pointers ?
Or something part of the arguments ? And why those letters ? Why do they mean ?
A new question on the list
boreal sleet
And the only character who ever used GTFO in the game, is Schaeffer (But it's might not be related at all)
I'll need to read carefully everything about the Rise project
Because, here it's used by the Warden
Or the know controlling the Warden
rich blaze
The thing that created the warden is the key
boreal sleet
My guess is on Artus Charapon, no true evidence, I'm just placing a coin on him
And also, is there an explanation for the logs variation ? From R6A1 for exemple ?
rich blaze
My guess is on Artus Charapon, no true evidence, I'm just placing a coin on him
The problem is that he died
rich blaze
I don't have it on hand, but there's a log where his ID is having a discussion and is kinda killed
harsh saffron
harsh saffron
Still think he could have done it tho. This log (2056) is after WRDN did something that we know of (2054). We would just have to assume it was working when he already died, and we know BIOCOM could do that already.
boreal sleet
Yeah but who used Warden in 2063 to launch rise ?
harsh saffron
Good point
boreal sleet
And also, who is P. Decker C085 ? There is only two mention of him, once with Schaeffer when they both disappeared after touching for the first time Artefact 7 (MWP) and one other time in a log with no interesting information in it at first glance
harsh saffron
I think they just witnessed the disappearing of other employees that touched the artefact and didn't disappear themselves. But apart from those 2 logs, no idea for now.
serene fractal
This would coincide nicely with "the mimic" stating that we "collected the items"
serene fractal
There is something funny, I don't know if someone pointed it out but
```init_r...
I forget who brought it up recently but the squads ID tags all start with the letters GTFO so this may be something similar where it's initiating... Whatever it's doing on operatives starting with that designation
eternal talon
Does this log confirm current year is 2063, btw?
THATS were it was! yes it does, i was trying to remember where i saw 2063 yesterday
well, we know when the game takes place, at least
still gotta find out any way that Schaeffer could have gotten out of KDS deep without someone/something using **Allen **Teleportation tech, though.
i've been thinking about it all night, and the only thing i could possibly come up with was a lockdown buffer of some sort disconnecting due to a power outage, but it's still sealed when we get there
and the noise aspect of dragging a (400lb?) HSU through sleeper infested zones isn't exactly a good thought
how much would an HSU weigh, anyway?
dim scroll
Wouldn't a power outage release several people instead of just schaeffer ?
eternal talon
could 1 person even drag that?
eternal talon
Wouldn't a power outage release several people instead of just schaeffer ?
that's the thing, it would
but it didn't, and it's all sealed
so even if it did, they'd just starve to death
or fall down the pit to their death
if they woke and used the emergency latch
dim scroll
Maybe there is a way to time the HSU
eternal talon
we don't really have exact dates, just sometime before r4
when his hsu somehow got out of KDS deep and into a place the warden could find it
and that raises the whole question of how the fuck it was kept powered while dragging it
it just doesn't make sense
cobalt mulch
when u query the hsus in levels and get the names dates stats of inhabitant, anyone know if its static info or rng?
eternal talon
it had to have something to do with the allens, i'm desperately trying to find an easier answer because well, they really don't like involving them directly in the story.
cobalt mulch
could a clue be found while looking at all the hsus, even the "wrong" ones?
eternal talon
what could be a clue?
that would require us finding schaeffer's pod, which honestly, probably isn't going to happen
cobalt mulch
dob name, cant remember if there a stasis begun date or sth
eternal talon
it's probably with the rest of the WRDN's stock somewhere on the surface where we drop from
eternal talon
dob name, cant remember if there a stasis begun date or sth
i don't think there is,
since when the game takes place has always been a debated topic
if it was listed in the HSUs, we'd have known by now
cobalt mulch
just a thought, the data dump is usually ignored when all we need is the objective updated
eternal talon
i just don't see how people could miss that for 2 1/5 years. almost every rundown has had atleast one HSU grab expedition
where we get genetic data
though we never actually drag one of those things with us
given the size, it'd probably take either 5-10 people or heavy lifting equipment
and i don't think you can stealthily drive a forklift in KDS-deep lol
cobalt mulch
that would be different tho, defend the forklift, open garage doors etc.. not very gtfo..
eternal talon
well that and KDS isn't very vehicle friendly, lots of sets of stairs and corridors, if you look at VODs on youtube from r5e1
cobalt mulch
yup, or r6c1, the number of carts crashed down there
eternal talon
broo this zone literally had a forklift clipping into the wall
they really gotta train their staff better
cobalt mulch
the wall was laid on the forks, jerk move :)
cobalt mulch
great plan tho, not many getting thru that ambush
eternal talon
here, left side of the screen
left forklift tongue is burried in the concrete wall
cobalt mulch
minor details :) didnt bx or cx have the dead body propped against a fence alltho there was no fence behind him...
nitpicking details, worth a "heh" tops :)
eternal talon
god this level was amazing. like a shooting gallery, the entire level was a reactor defense with one loooooong set of corridors
cobalt mulch
if sentries did back daamage then, no question on how to exec
eternal talon
shotgun sentry pog. always ran 2 shotguns and 1 burst
miss OG arbalist so much
closest gun in r6 is the HAR and it doesn't feel the same
cobalt mulch
my loadout is ~always dmr har, i love the stagger% even if head missed
rich blaze
Yeah but who used Warden in 2063 to launch rise ?
Could be an autonomous test
eternal talon
the WRDN is an AI, what gives you the impression it was "used" to launch rise, and didn't do it itself?
what is project rise, anyway?
subtle verge
Also, the GTFO arguments in the command are also coincidentally the identifiers for the four main characters.
serene fractal
Also, the GTFO arguments in the command are also coincidentally the identifiers ...
Ah yeah I think it was you who mentioned the ID starting letters yesterday. I brought that up a little earlier but couldn't remember who said it
boreal sleet
the WRDN is an AI, what gives you the impression it was "used" to launch rise, a...
I don't have proof, it could also be the Warden or the one controlling it who launched this bunch of code
And how much there is ? 4 ?
I mean, logs looking the same on DX ?
serene fractal
the WRDN is an AI, what gives you the impression it was "used" to launch rise, a...
To add to this; my impression from the log in question was that WRDN simply compared the chances of success for whatever it's trying to do using current methods vs Rise and concluded that Rise had a higher chance of success
subtle verge
Ah yeah I think it was you who mentioned the ID starting letters yesterday. I br...
No, it was someone else. I can't remember who, however.
ruby lakeBOT
Gauda, Tackett, Foods and Oishop
dim scroll
Whoms't
eternal talon
source???
what logs???
specifically
i did not read ANYTHING to that extent
we have never known much of anything about rise
analog frigate
he's referencing how rise seems related to the neonate
eternal talon
he's referencing how rise seems related to the neonate
how do we know that
what log
how do we know any of that? what logssss
gives mes infos
how can you say something that major without having anything?
harsh saffron
analog frigate
yeah i was just looking at it
harsh saffron
thats one of the new rise ones
harsh saffron
was just reading that 1 min ago ^^
analog frigate
eternal talon
it's like a chinese knock-off of project legion
analog frigate
this one as well
analog frigate
it's like a chinese knock-off of project legion
it's not really related to legion
eternal talon
it's not really related to legion
i know, i said it's a knock-off
analog frigate
this is some sort of gene splicing program for unknown purposes
legion is a military program to produce the perfect soldiers for KDS
a private army of sorts
eternal talon
i know what legion is
analog frigate
definitely
subtle verge
Like I said the other day: I'm glad that Clone Theory is out the window.
LONG LIVE CHAD THEORY! 👑
analog frigate
boreal sleet
What destroyed the Clone Theory ? Might have missed something once again
analog frigate
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs#HPF-4NP-UNK
it's specifically mentioned that it's not clones
just some kind of gene splicing
subtle verge
I'm also curious as to the concern for Lockwood's alleged snooping and the need for more HSUs. Like I wonder why that specifically is hand-in-hand in that statement.
Not remembering anything, and the idea that death in-game is canon.
Those were the largest claims to Clone Theory.
Alas, those FOUL TARNISHED, EMBOLDENED BY THE FLAME OF AMBITION. SOMEONE MUST EXTINGUISH THY FLAME.
Truly a maidenless behavior and belief system.
boreal sleet
So I have multiple question now, first : How to explain the two variation of Schaeffer's speech during A1 (MWP room) ?
Second : Why our team is the same as the one described by Schaeffer in CX ? Is there any link for now ?
serene fractal
Just listened to 5R3-8M4-HCX again (the one with all of the people talking at once) and I think I may have an idea as to what it could be. To me it almost sounds like audio that would be fed to whatever the hell project rise is in order for it to learn speech and phrases quickly since it's a bunch of just mundane statements. But then on top of that it's also picking up people in the facility talking about the project. If we can isolate the scientist voices from the other stuff we might get more info?
you can hear a lot of the phrases the thing says to Schaeffer spliced in there
rich blaze
So I have multiple question now, first : How to explain the two variation of Sch...
Second : He wants a team like the warden has to do stuff around
boreal sleet
But we are doing stuff for the Warden, not Schaeffer, so why ? We still don't have the transcription this log for now so I have no clue of when it was registered, but it must have been prior R4 in the Timeline, since Schaeffer know it's us (Probably ? I don't have proof, but at least he knows we are here, even if he don't make any mention of names)
rich blaze
Schaeffer wants his own team
assuming he was there during R5
He read our files
and he realised he wanted the same kind of comp the Warden has
boreal sleet
He also was in a team like us, his log in R4D2 was clear about that. Maybe he want to make us "free" ? For now, the log I understand the less is his speech after we killed the Nemesis
rich blaze
I sadly don't have a transcript of that log, and we were running around since my team went top of DX first
I meant the DX Log, sorry if I was unclear
boreal sleet
I was reffering to this one, I still don't understand it, it's similar to another one about being in a sort of Trance
subtle verge
Hey @serene fractal, I'm writing down a rough transcript for TLK-WRL-295 Schaeffer log, the one where he's asking if Art is tapping Hearsay before he gets interrupted by the KSO team. If you're not busy at the moment, would you be able to be a second set of ears for me for a specific section of the log?
rich blaze
I have time for it if you want it around now
serene fractal
Sure I can do that quick
subtle verge
The more the merrier
The first log, around the 1:00 mark. I hear: "Sector Clear, moving on to- Hold! [We're changing the stack hunted hold here] or [We're chain stack halted/hunted]" but I know that's definitely not correct.
rich blaze
Masked, look at the French Discord 
serene fractal
@subtle verge did some quick noise reduction on it to help
rich blaze
I hear, "we're getting [unclear] hunted"
serene fractal
It's definitely "we're changing stack [unclear]
subtle verge
Any idea what is said immediately after that? It's another voice but I can't make out the question.
serene fractal
stack objective would make the most sense but it doesn't quite sound like it
subtle verge
"Stack [unclear]. Hold here."
[unintelligible]
"Return to KDS Deep."
rich blaze
We're on our own now, return to KDS Deep
serene fractal
Might be "they're on the move now"
serene fractal
Yeah in the context of what comes after I think they're on the move now makes the most sense since he asks if they're supposed to engage
subtle verge
Both of you have better options than what I hear.
Awesome. Thanks, gents!
Oh, one more!
"Moving out!"
[Where are you looking?]
"Unauthorized surveillance. Hearsay off."
serene fractal
Yeah that's for sure what it says
subtle verge
Bless. You guys rock!
rich blaze
Agree, this is what I hear too
subtle verge
I damaged my hearing as a youngin' so sometimes I mishear or can't hear things.
subtle verge
YES, PERFECT.
serene fractal
"Stack [unclear]. Hold here."
[unintelligible]
"Return to KDS Deep."
Regarding this one though it's for sure either we're or they're on the move now. I'll give it another listen later
lilac island
One of the missing audio files from CX
subtle verge
Regarding this one though it's for sure either we're or they're on the move now....
Honestly, I think I hear "they're on the move now" or "we're on our own now."
lilac island
R6-5 CX Audio that plays when opening last door
subtle verge
Both you and Amanes have it, I just can't figure it out precisely.
It definitely sounds like a "w" beginner.
So I'm leaning towards "we're on our own now."
serene fractal
Listened to it again, I think you're right about starting with a w
I think Amanes had it on second listen. We're all alone now
subtle verge
Also trying to figure out what the KSO said about a station.
"Make your way to your designated [bolster/oyster/olster/???] station."
Around 48-49 seconds.
Contextually and phonetically, I think bolster makes the most sense, but I can't 100% it.
serene fractal
Hmm at first I thought he said officer station without giving it a second thought but yeah I'm not sure now that I listen again
starts with an O for sure ends in ER, maybe TER
subtle verge
Slowing it down, phonetically it sounds like "Olster" or "Ulster"
Maybe it's an acronym?
serene fractal
What's the first word they say when they barge in?
subtle verge
"Make your-- Make your way to your designated [...] station."
rich blaze
Officer
If we look at the Lockdown report
before being cleared to go up
they need to go by a KDS Officer
serene fractal
You heard officer as well then?
rich blaze
I just go by what seem to make the most sense
serene fractal
or you mean for the first word
subtle verge
I can hear Officer, but that's a very heavy accent for that one specific word that's not really heard anywhere else in the log.
analog frigate
i can't tell what it is exactly, but i agree with amanes
subtle verge
Sounds like a heavy Welsh accent.
analog frigate
the lockdown report log says that workers must report to their nearest officer station
serene fractal
I don't think the first word is a stutter of "make your" I think it is something else
analog frigate
and it's the only thing that would make sense
rich blaze
* Rescind pre-approved gate clearance for all personnel. Passes must be shown. Visual approval is rescinded.
* Clear local cache on all Retinal/Fingerprint/DNA scanner units after every use. No historical data to be stored on any devices. If the Central surveillance records have already been decrypted, this should happen automatically. If not, physically remove the network cables on the local device.
* Seal all bulkhead doors and isolate inter-deck access control to A Class personnel only. Local control can remain with C class personnel.
* PID badges to be scanned at the assembly point and confirmed against the Central Personnel Database(CPD). Once matched, evacuation via any evacuation designated elevator is permitted.
* Any person that cannot be matched with the CPD, or who present at the assembly point without appropriate identification, should be escorted to a KDS holding room until they are cleared by the on-duty KDS officer.
* No persons should be allowed access to an evacuation designated elevator unless they have been matched by the CPD, or approved by the on-duty KDS officer. No exceptions.
[...]
HUMAN RESOURCES
* All personnel should gather at their designated assembly points prior to evacuation.
* Remind employees that they should move in a calm and orderly fashion.
* All personnel are limited to (1) N - 137B Storage Unit for personal belongings. All N - 137Bs must be screened for biological and radioactive matter then tagged with a PID number. The units can then be claimed at the appropriate Pneumatic Delivery center on the surface. Any unmarked N - 137Bs will be sealed in the sub-level 02 vault indefinitely.
* Any person attempting to transport contraband out of the facility should be moved to a KDS holding room. The confiscated items should be locked in the KDS vault, and the on-duty KDS officer should be notified.```at 44 seconds
subtle verge
Very well. Interesting. I'll relisten to 44.
serene fractal
48 sorry
subtle verge
Phonetically I hear "mayor" which makes me think it's a stammering of "make your"
Like the guy is double-checking/surveying the room while he's trying to speak.
serene fractal
Maybe. It's too muffled for me to really hear that one and I don't have an alternative suggestion
subtle verge
Hearsay on. This is-- what the fuck?! Is it on? Art, Art, I'm leaving you this on HearSay cause I don't... I don't know how else to reach you. It's fucking happening, man, you were right, I'm sorry. I- I didn't understand. I thought you just got the virus, er uh... I thought you might be in Teale's office so I uh... I dont know what to do. I went to a station but they just-- they just ripped us apart! They're all dead: Vix, Casper, Gianna, I can't stay here. They've locked the elevators. I think I'm gonna go deeper. If you're still tapping HearSay and you, and you hear this, fuck man find me! Please? I'll be uh--
KSO 1:
Hey you! Make your way to your designated officer station.
SCHAEFFER:
I was there! They're they're all dead! What's going on?
KSO 1:
I will not ask you again.
SCHAEFFER:
Fuck, I'm going!
KSO 1:
Sector clear, moving on to-- Hold! Receiving stack update. Hold here.
KSO 2:
We're on our own now.
KSO 1:
Return to KDS Deep.
KSO 3:
We are meant to engage?
KSO 1:
Confirmed. Return to KDS Deep immediately. We have our orders.
KSO 3:
Moving out!
KSO 2:
Where are you looking?
KSO 1:
Unauthorized surveillance. HearSay off.```Oh was it Vix? I thought I heard Vince
subtle verge
Vix/Vicks. There's a hard K/CK sound in there.
subtle verge
"Hey! Make your way"
Oh you know what, on a 15th listening I hear: "Hey you, make your way"
serene fractal
I thought the first syllable was like an A so yeah that would be a lot closer
subtle verge
Thanks for the help, guys. I'm trying to get transcripts available so we can throw it to the WWs (aka Wiki Weirdos cough cough @harsh saffron @solar carbon cough cough) so they can make the wiki look pretty and fleshed out. ❤️
That way us LL (aka Lore Chads) can go back to making tinfoil hat theories.
subtle verge
Haha. I'm just poking fun at Killa mainly. They like to come in here sometimes and meme on us a bit.
Friendly rivalry even though we work hand-in-hand with each other.
serene fractal
When does the bucket get its own wiki page?
solar carbon
Who summons the
solar carbon
Thanks for the help, guys. I'm trying to get transcripts available so we can thr...
Lore Losers
Also I only do enemy stuff or just random clean up
It’s my job and im damn proud of it
solar nova
The first log, around the 1:00 mark. I hear: "Sector Clear, moving on to- Hold! ...
[Receiving stack update. Holding. (Inaudible), return to KDS Deep.]
Oh, "we're on our own now," damn is that hard to hear.
solar carbon
Who Lore Losers when we getting a log saying all the things the mimic said
Cuz I understood like 5 words
subtle verge
Oh, "we're on our own now," damn is that hard to hear.
Yeah, man. That one threw me for a loop for so long. Thankfully Amanes and Donk had my back. Lmfao.
subtle verge
Cuz I understood like 5 words
I'm working on it slowly. I'm going down the list on the Notion.so. I should have at least a rough outline of all of them done by Monday.
solar carbon
kk
im in GTFO-22 if you wanna talk about wiki and lore shit
@subtle verge
what if we merged wiki chat with lore chat not fully but like put them next to each other so we can kinda share some of the data
solar carbon
like
put both channels next to each other
use threads to explain certain things
and give out info for the wiki workers to add onto the wiki
serene fractal
Makes sense to me
serene fractal
Although we'd need a pretty stringent process of confirming something as uh... confirmed. Rather than a theory
solar carbon
if the lore lovers could work on also gathering basic info like enemy stuff
eternal talon
that's the primary difference between the two. GTFO-lore is mostly theorcrafting and gathering new data
analog frigate
Although we'd need a pretty stringent process of confirming something as uh... c...
we can make a list of requirements
eternal talon
wiki-chat is 100% confirmed things only
solar carbon
turn the lore lovers into the collection of info lovers
ye
turn the lore people into data collect and then give us the confirmed data so we can add it
cuz i gotta do my own research currently
to find my info
analog frigate
i'll start working on a method of deciding if something works for being in the wiki, or should remain in the lore chat
subtle verge
I just wish the lore channel and the wiki chat were next to each other in the side bar.
subtle verge
<@156901751838998528>
I would be down, however I am currently not home at the moment. Rain check?
solar carbon
hm?
subtle verge
To join you in chat to discuss lore/wiki stuff.
solar carbon
sure
solar carbon
i'll start working on a method of deciding if something works for being in the w...
kk
eternal talon
i feel like it's really unnecessary ngl
stone vine
yo som i noticed in schaefers house cx when hes reading off names
he was writing them on the whiteboard and crossing them off
eternal talon
yeah
stone vine
he said bishop but there were no names that started with f
i wonder if bishops name is there
eternal talon
the log on his terminal states that.
stone vine
but it doesnt start with f
subtle verge
Bishop's name isn't on the whiteboard.
analog frigate
i wonder if bishops name is there
there is no frank in the names
stone vine
oh wait
i never checked
if we figured out his name
LOL
his name is frank? 💀
yall didnt see me
subtle verge
Langley
Griffith
Osgood
Kluiveri
Cromwell
Lopez
Henrikson
McKenny
Keller
Maddox
...
These are all the names on the whiteboard.
subtle verge
Dunno if anyone posted the new board
And here's the whiteboard post patch.
serene fractal
Do we have a collective document of information we've found but don't yet know significance for? It would be helpful to have that instead of always having to go back in the chat
solar carbon
like 120% charge
solar carbon
odd
dim scroll
med 6 and tool 6 as well
solar carbon
dim scroll
gae
analog frigate
Do we have a collective document of information we've found but don't yet know s...
if you want i can just make a list and send it
solar carbon
do I change it to 6?
analog frigate
but i'll have to finish two other things first
dim scroll
yes
solar carbon
cuz 6 is pretty rare
analog frigate
do I change it to 6?
yes, we encounter 6 a lot
dim scroll
still exist
solar carbon
ok
dim scroll
it's not a bug tho
analog frigate
it's not a bug
analog frigate
6 is common on "boss" parts of expedition
analog frigate
like the kraken section, r5b3/c2
and a decent lot of others
like reactors
nope
subtle verge
Do we have a collective document of information we've found but don't yet know s...
I'm supposed to be working on that, but I've not had time due to IRL. I'll get it done when I'm back home here in an hour.
I think I'll make a google doc that has a link of all the google docs we have available, that way we can clean out the pin tab and just have one central link.
analog frigate
I think I'll make a google doc that has a link of all the google docs we have av...
wait till the end of the weekend to do that
fixing some things
subtle verge
wait till the end of the weekend to do that
100%, I'm not going to go hard on it. I still need to figure out what we even want on it.
analog frigate
i suggest we approach most important things like the important characters, sleepers, facility ect
eternal talon
I think I'll make a google doc that has a link of all the google docs we have av...
rav said she was doing that
serene fractal
I'm probably going to get through at least CX this weekend, maybe DX; is there anything I should be on the lookout for that people wanted another look at but don't want to have to go back in to find?
analog frigate
but we will have to also explain what we know for certain for things like project legion and project insight
solar carbon
has anybody ever seen a 5 use lock melter?
analog frigate
yes
solar carbon
I dont recall ever seeing that ngl
solar carbon
hm
analog frigate
but that was probably a bug so i suggest leave it at 4
analog frigate
only regular consumables have been seen going 120%
solar carbon
so ik basically everything besides how shitty mines where and how many hack locks you had to do
subtle verge
rav said she was doing that
Yeah, but a guy can make life easier on our local Hackett Lover, eh?
solar carbon
idk never played it
eternal talon
hack locks didn't exist in r1.
neither did padlocks
at all
for lockers either
r1 didn't have locks on lockers of any kind
i remember that specifically
solar nova
r1 didn't have locks on lockers of any kind
It had hack locks.
analog frigate
ah, the old hack tool
solar nova
R1C1 was a hack-fest.
eternal talon
the wiki needs to be fixed then.
solar nova
No alarms on hacks, though.
analog frigate
the wiki needs to be fixed then.
it doesn't
eternal talon
and i certainly don't remember it being a hack fest
analog frigate
page for padlocks refers to both physical and electrical
analog frigate
no one is booing anyone
eternal talon
r1c1 is my favorite level in gtfo, period.
eternal talon
no one is booing anyone
it is on the r2 wiki page though
solar nova
It specifically says Padlocks
eternal talon
the wiki does need to be fixed
eternal talon
It specifically says Padlocks
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Locks click it
it goes to both electric and physical
solar nova
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Locks click it
Yes, it is a redirect.
eternal talon
daraxus JUST said that
analog frigate
r1c1 is my favorite level in gtfo, period.
personally r5b3 is just the best
solar nova
Padlocks redirects to just "locks," because there are not separate pages for padlocks and hack locks.
solar nova
The redirect makes no statement of fact about the new features claim on the R2 page.
It's the reality of how the wiki pages are constructed.
eternal talon
and yet hack locks aren't mentioned in the r1 wiki page
solar nova
^
solar nova
I have a lot of nostalgia for R2D1 as well, but R2D2 was just so good.
eternal talon
my rights as an American says your wrong
analog frigate
i only remember r5 expeditions
eternal talon
most levels are kinda samey when you've been playing for a while
solar nova
I loved R5D2 tbh.
eternal talon
i'm sure some masochist liked it
doesn't mean it's objectively wrong
anybody can like anything
solar nova
I like reactors w/ preambles and the good ending (a level where the players split up).
eternal talon
it's what an opinion is
analog frigate
shadows, more shadows, lights out, toxic fog everywhere, you have to run through the entire map while in non-toxic fog from which you can't see anything, the lights are off and the layout is beyond confusing
solar nova
Fog was non-toxic?
eternal talon
Fog was non-toxic?
before r2 it was.
analog frigate
when running to extraction i think so
eternal talon
and still, some fog is, some fog isn't
solar nova
when running to extraction i think so
Don't you mean R5D1?
eternal talon
even today
analog frigate
Don't you mean R5D1?
probably, my memory isn't the best
solar nova
R5D2 was a reactor startup.
analog frigate
but they were both pain
solar nova
in labs
solar nova
It is still the definitive version of R1D1, though.
It did everything Deeper did for its main objective, but better, and hard as fuck.
R5D1 forced you to visit side zones, and then also wanted you to visit even more side zones because you got so few resources.
analog frigate
also if you get a tiny bit lost with the weird layout, you will immediately be swarmed by shadows
while running to extraction
it was
solar nova
Tbqh, though, I think I'm probably not going to find a new favorite level anytime soon.
That honeymoon phase for GTFO is passed for me, same as how many people have heavy nostalgia for R4 and R5.
R2 pre-nerf o7
analog frigate
yeah, r4 ad r5 were a different breed from r6
but all rundowns are good
because it's gtfo
of course it's good
anyway, i suggest we get back to keeping it lore
solar nova
R5C1, though.
Extremely underrated.
Always been a massive shitpost.
Troo
What do people think of the horticulture log?
D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier3.exec_branch/SNesbittB081.flagged
Exciting! I'll have Bartolo prep the tanks. Let's do this!
Geordie McInnery
Hydroponics Engineer
- No Light? No Problem
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D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier3.exec_branch/GMcInneryC511.flagged
Geordie,
Expect a shipment of the NPS prototypes from HeliForm in a few weeks. I'd like to start with some simple modifications to the Solanums and perhaps to the Gramineae depending on if it works as advertised. Let's start with something not too complex so we can compare the genetic structure before and after use.
Susan
There's very little context here, but this might indicate that the plants in the floodways are in-fact an Insight project.
subtle verge
Toxic fog (cyanophyta) theory noises
soft tartan
The recent bx voice log confirms parts of it. Schaefer was normal and once he steps into HSU he turns all ooo Oo aaa aa like a chimp
solar nova
Research division for Dreyfus, they take over operations at Garganta once Santonian starts to dig up some weird ass shit.
Interesting...
solar nova
I'm curious what their genetic engineering was.
I assume it'll be related to the unknown biomass they've been finding.
eternal talon
you aren't thinking about the parasites as we know them in the lore,
you are thinking of the giant tentacle thing in the early access trailer, right?
wdym no
that was never a thing
also pls don't talk about cut content
you can be banned
it's rule 12, you would get banned
i am not kidding.
i do not make the rules, i'm trying to help you here, PLEASE stop talking about it
datamines aren't acceptable at all
rich blaze
even tho i don't think it's bannable. I don't think it's supposed to play a part in the current lore
solar nova
Probably won't be a thing, sadly, but who knows.
subtle verge
I don't think the parasites would be fun mechanically unless they're the size of the Hunt: Showdown leeches.
But cut content doesn't necessarily mean content that will never be used.
solar carbon
Interesting
manic shuttle
You should probably post the mocap sessions and other the other stuff so people like him dont think its datamined
finite vine
I don't think its been confirmed, but it appears to be likely.
manic shuttle
wasnt like a whole google drive with those things in it or am i remembering wrong
subtle verge
Once upon a time we had a biologist in here who did a case study on the sleepers, and his analysis made the conclusion that the parasite used the intestines of the host as a, for lack of a better term, bungie cord. Not sure whatever happened to ol' Dr Grem.
hot burrow
What you nerds taking about
lilac island
Intestinal Bungie Jumping of course. Totally normal conversation.
serene fractal
poop bucket spotted
subtle verge
inner sphinx
my first question is who the hell broke through this wall
my second is who the hell fixed the wall behind it
real pewter
maybe someone drill into the wall by accident
and he has to fixed the wall himself
serene fractal
So, with all the dismembered sleepers in Schaeffer's place... is the implication that he's been harvesting...organs? With the bucket? @frail pollen
final sentinel
my first question is who the hell broke through this wall
kool-aid man
subtle verge
Confirmed. The Kool-Aid Man is the bucket is the Kool-Aid Man.
inner sphinx
the real horror of the complex
quick grove
So what have we gather from the new lore goodies given to us
Any links connected or anything new
solar nova
So what have we gather from the new lore goodies given to us
The year is 2063
quick grove
?
solar nova
And the neonate is in-fact associated with the Rise Project.
quick grove
And the neonate is in-fact associated with the Rise Project.
Don't really know much about this
solar nova
Don't really know much about this
It's something that KDS was doing, seemingly related to KSOs. We still don't have much info about it, other than that it's something to do with the neonate HSUs they have and they're trying to make better KSOs.
solar nova
And we know now that the mimic is dead right
Seems like it.
quick grove
It really is a shame
lapis crystal
quick grove
?
dense saffron
The year is 2063
we don't know that the current year is 2063, just that the furthest year that's been mentioned is 2063 iirc
rich blaze
it may be it and I think it is, but yes it's not confirmed
faint river
how did the man in dx die?
boreal sleet
Bonked by Schaeffer
cobalt mulch
the lore audio log with "are you a dog or cat person", along w/ the new ones
birthday 32000 seconds ago, need to reboot.. .. an experiment w/ some cortex chip or other, dunno
real pewter
feel like the devs are going ham on the mimic thing
agile plinth
how did the man in dx die?
unknown, only a bullet hole in the head
agile plinth
The man? Do you mean the mimic or am I going mental?
he means specimen 22
agile plinth
Also, what even is the mimic?
the mimic is what we call the talking creature schaeffer has met multiple times now, supposedly killing it in one of the logs
crisp sage
Makes sense then, I've only been around for R6
agile plinth
with the "are you a cat or dog person" log
also @solar nova we can't know if it is 2063
yes we have logs from then, but nothing to tell how much time has passed since those logs
schaeffer doesn't help since hydrostasis invalidates any time passed and makes assumptions useless
if specimen 22 is the mimic, then we do sorta have a time frame, although if it is, we still can't confirm
harsh saffron
with the "are you a cat or dog person" log
isn't that log R6C2?
agile plinth
is it?
i remember it from earlier
since we wrote about it in the outdated sleeper analysis
which was late r5
harsh saffron
hm, strange
agile plinth
i remember it from r5, although it could be my memory giving up again
harsh saffron
the cat/dog person log is from R6C2, but maybe I'm forgetting a log with the mimic from R5
agile plinth
R5 definitely had a lot of logs with the mimic
subtle verge
unknown, only a bullet hole in the head
Small update: he beat the daylight out of S22. We hear it in one of his logs.
serene fractal
Have we seen sleepers in the state they were right near Schaeffer's hideout? Like we've seen dead ones but they almost look like he was harvesting stuff from them
agile plinth
its description is from r5, a couple other logs and that audio log
subtle verge
Knocked da fuqq out, permanently, in other words.
agile plinth
Small update: he beat the daylight out of S22. We hear it in one of his logs.
we confirmed he beat up s22?
he beat up something
just don't know what
subtle verge
we confirmed he beat up s22?
Yeah, the mimic is begging for its life or trying to convince Schaeffer not to do it as Schaeffer is doing it.
It's kind of heartbreaking, to be honest.
agile plinth
ah yeah
but then it would be the mimic, not s22, until we confirm they are the same thing
serene fractal
Btw, which log is the term neonate used again? I know it's used to reference the mimic thing but I can't remember where the name is actually referenced
subtle verge
but then it would be the mimic, not s22, until we confirm they are the same thin...
Fair point.
agile plinth
Btw, which log is the term neonate used again? I know it's used to reference the...
r4 i believe has us retrieve it
subtle verge
I will say I think it's heavily implied.
agile plinth
or r3
subtle verge
But we've been led astray before.
agile plinth
I will say I think it's heavily implied.
it does seem so but there are some irregularities
schaeffer beat the ever living shit out the creature in the log, while s22 only has a gunshot wound in its head and no signs of blunt force trauma
most things beaten up with what we can assume to be a sledgehammer, would be mangled beyond recognition
serene fractal
One more question, I ran out of time to do the secondary objective of CX last night so I just did main; is there any lore stuff in that section?
agile plinth
but again, we know that the mimic appears to have regenerative abilities, so it is invalidated, since we don't know how they work or to what extent
harsh saffron
One more question, I ran out of time to do the secondary objective of CX last ni...
1 text log
serene fractal
Been reading through logs and I'm pretty convinced neonate = thing that talked to Schaeffer now. The description of several expeditions was about retrieving components to resuscitate the neonate and imprint it, it mentions something to Schaeffer about gathering the items.
Related to that, I think it would be very helpful to have a document of descriptions on what exactly occured on each expedition instead of having to infer from the teaser blurbs
Idk if we have dates for when those expeditions occured or not but if we can cross-reference those with the new Schaeffer logs we can probably establish a timeline
Yeah, for people who joined late. I don't really know what the objectives of previous rundowns were other than having to infer from quick descriptions like "recover neonate hsu". I don't know where the hsu was or if the context was important
serene fractal
we retrieve it at the end of r2
I was just checking the expedition blurbs and the first time it's mentioned is r3 though?
finite vine
I was just checking the expedition blurbs and the first time it's mentioned is r...
the neonate was retrieved from cold storage in r2e1
it was the main focus of r3 though. we processed it in r3.
serene fractal
I see. But yeah that kind of thing is why I think a list of what the squad does in the expeditions would be useful
eternal talon
r4 i believe has us retrieve it
neither, we get in in rundown 2. we use it in rundown 3.
r2e1
it's also labeled as "dreyfus undustries", not insight, not kovac, not santonian
eternal talon
I see. But yeah that kind of thing is why I think a list of what the squad does ...
check for dummies doc.
to a limited degree for past rundowns, since, y'know, hindsight, but r6 is completely covered in each level.
it has a picture of a baby on it. c'mon
floaters aren't in r6b1
wouldn't make sense to spoil the level in the menu screen
it has NEVER been the case
serene fractal
Yeah I get it's supposed to be a surprise, but since it can't be played anymore, it would make sense to have full descriptions of what happens somewhere
frail pollen
warden, have you heard about the bucket?
eternal talon
Yeah I get it's supposed to be a surprise, but since it can't be played anymore,...
that's what the players are for.
you missed it, you missed it. that's how it is
players tell descriptions
if r6 was your first rundown and you weren't on the discord or other, you would never EVER know lore from past rundowns.
serene fractal
I... understand that. What I'm asking for is for players who did do it, to write what happened so I don't have to constantly ask people
eternal talon
that is fundamentally how it works. rundowns are wiped clean-
eternal talon
I... understand that. What I'm asking for is for players who did do it, to write...
-oh yeah, for dummies doc
i've been covering that for r6
it's in the post apocalypse section
serene fractal
if r6 was your first rundown and you weren't on the discord or other, you would ...
Untrue. I found the Santonian site myself and started at rundown 6 and listened to/read all the logs