gtfo-lore

[west yew]

I gotta ask what exactly is the story for this rundown?

[eternal talon]

i've got it

1 sec

[eternal talon]

WIP v2 of the "for dummies" doc, read the "POST APOCALIPSE" r6 section

though i haven't added the extension to it yet.

[west yew]

so it seems that we dont actually know anything

[eternal talon]

Rundown 6.5: In BX, we attempt to locate Alpha Three, and unexpectedly teleport into what appears to be a massive mining facility on the surface of Destination.
In CX, we attempt to recover power to local zones by activating emergency generators, and along the way uncover Schaeffer's hideout and his plan to fight back against the warden.
In DX, we attempt to download the Genome that we collected in D1, and end up discovering Subject 22 deep within a DataVault after escaping the subterranean portion of the mines seen in BX.

here ya go

i've got more, but i gotta dig through the logs to find the dates and splice it with the rest of the pre-apocalypse section.

[west yew]

huh

[eternal talon]

we know a quite a bit more with 6.5,

especially in regards to schaeffer

we pretty much have his whole story to this date covered.

[real pewter]

he didn't die right

[eternal talon]

we don't know, but i doubt it

the voice log at the start of DX has him going to fucking town on the mutant, you can hear him absolutely tearing it apart, straight outta DOOM

schaeffer is a badass

[real pewter]

the thing must be really weak

[eternal talon]

it was still trying to talk to him as he was tearing it limb from limb

[real pewter]

isn't that mean that thing don't need anything

to survive or something like that?

also

schaeffer has the virus

[eternal talon]

we don't know, the log abruptly starts after an uplink scan

[real pewter]

so he could die in the future

i heard a little bit of like

[eternal talon]

not quite, hsu's seem to kill it

let me find the log

[real pewter]

from the

[real pewter]

ye

i thought i heard the mimic told schaeffer he has the virus

[west yew]

but the whole teleportation thing is still pretty unknown

[eternal talon]

it couldn't survive for more than a few hours

that's how we are alive as well

schaeffer is fine

[west yew]

So wait there is a cure for the virus in GTFO?

[real pewter]

the hsu

[eternal talon]

afik HSUs are a kovac specific thing

and most of humanity is already likely dead by this point

[west yew]

damn

thats lame

[eternal talon]

sadly this log doesn't have a date.

[final sentinel]

and it'll scream at us like in the CX log :3

[eternal talon]

@shut mountain Would you kindly please replace the 📌 of the previous "FOR DUMMIES" document with this one? This file has been updated with lore received in the extension. o7

[analog frigate]

just make it into a google doc so it doesn't have to be pinned again with every revision

you can just change the doc and the link will remain the same

[eternal talon]

i really don't like using google docs

[eternal talon]

i have hundreds of .txt files on this drive, it's just how i've always sorted stuff like this in various games

[shut mountain]

Here ya go champ

Im here either way to ping stuff but in the long run google document is better

it also does not have a word limit unlike discord messages

💀

[eternal talon]

that's why .txt files are pog

that one doc is only 22kb

a google doc of similar size i have is 104kb

it's not much difference, but with hundreds of files, it adds up

[shut mountain]

If its cool with u all I might make a "navigation list" so that I can pin that, that way its still gonna be easy to access all of them

and i can just update the link to it whenever you guys update it

[eternal talon]

i mean that's fine

read the sentence above that.

[shut mountain]

the partial decoders are also used to be able to read the logs i believe

[eternal talon]

also, these are GAMEPLAY synopsis

[shut mountain]

part of the reason why we collected them

[eternal talon]

"(Note: The text below is a very rough synopsis and is not to the same degree in depth of research and validity of the above document.)"

[shut mountain]

Alrighty @ lore folks of all sizes, species, genders...etc. Can you all compile me a list of your current documents that you have here passed around, with links to the "most recent" version?

[eternal talon]

👆

[shut mountain]

Ill toss this navigation draft up to you guys when i have them all, and if you like it i can pin that so each of them are easily accesible instead of having to scroll to much even in pinned channels, if not i can just keep pinning for u all

[eternal talon]

also the only expedition confirmed are not cannon is d4. (in r6)

EVERY other expedition is 100% canonical.

[analog frigate]

i'll have to work out a new revision of the sleeper analysis

although it will take some time

and fix the toxic fog one

[eternal talon]

technically no, but it is the first rundown

the more important lore is the stuff above anyway, stuff we see in text and audio logs

[eternal talon]

i got the basics of it in the for dummies doc included now

[shut mountain]

Take yer time, and ping me when it's done

No rush at all, im a patient camper

[eternal talon]

r4 and r5 aren't written at all. if you played them and want to give a gameplay summary, feel free to @ me. i'll have a look and include it in the next revision once r7 comes out

[rose cradle]

does anyone have a recording of the audio log where schaffer is panicking and running away during the emergency and he’s talking with someone else, it was hard to understand the other voice

[harsh saffron]

I have one, but its not very clean and still pretty hard to understand the 2nd person.

[rose cradle]

tysm, i’ll have a listen at it

[subtle verge]

I love that log in a morbid-ish kind of way. It offers so much to the atmosphere of how dire the initial downfall of Garganta was. All the people in the background screaming, the still sane Schaeffer, the KSOs, etc.

[harsh saffron]

Yeah same, Really loved to have a log thats actually during the downfall of garganta

[soft tartan]

The Schaefer logs are so good only got the Bx ones but I can’t wait to hear the cx and dx one. Based on what I’ve heard I’m finding more evidence of chimp theory

[eternal talon]

what is "chimp theory"?

[shut mountain]

Serious discussions only michal

[scenic wagon]

When that gun was racked in bx’s log my team started freaking out for some reason.

[shut mountain]

before i delete you

[soft tartan]

But did you hear the bx log? I hear a low rumble from him (“oooo Oo”) before he locked himself in a hsu

[soft tartan]

https://youtu.be/zbFSbnErPP0

[scenic wagon]

o_O

No

[shut mountain]

Bruh

[subtle verge]

It's not even a consistent theory. How did Joe Rogan convert the primates into sleepers if he was simultaneously having a disco party with StockPhotoMan_3.jpeg in a club with MatPat from the Blues Clues Brothers band?

That alone debunks the entire argument.

[soft tartan]

I think you forgot the most important argument that during that Joe Rogan Podcast Elon took a big boof of the reefer and exponentially expanded his brain to engulf and expand the lore of GTFO itself. This alone debunks your entire rebuttal

[shut mountain]

Both of you are gonna be sentenced into 5 minutes of HSU containment

[rich blaze]

Rav is putting you into HSU cause she's involved too

[soft tartan]

Next to shaeffer I hope

[rich blaze]

and doesn't want her deal for shirtless hackett to be found

[subtle verge]

Back on the topic I saw from earlier, do we want unproven theories in the collective pin, or do we only want confirmed bits?

Like the TL;DR of the lore, etc.

[serene fractal]

It would make sense to me to have the tldr lore be confirmed only, and then either a section after it or a separate document that is current running theories

[shut mountain]

I can make two categories for unconfirmed and confirmed ones too,

whichever works for u and easier

[analog frigate]

that's the main idea of the summary and similar stuff

we try to get all the confirmed lore

and that's what we tell new folks

when they have questions which are related to the unconfirmed theories, then we give the theories

otherwise a lot of confusion occurs

[soft tartan]

I have an idea for unconfirmed lore

[hybrid depot]

ayo question

who's the dead guy in dx

[lilac island]

you mean subject 22?

[hybrid depot]

is that Schaefer

[solar nova]

Subject 22

[hybrid depot]

like towards the end

who dat

who subject 22

i haven't been listening to the logs that much

[lilac island]

Pretty sure we don't know yet. I've been reading through the older logs and I haven't found any reference to it yet

[solar nova]

It's probably the mimic, but hard to know.

[lilac island]

^that's my personal bet

[subtle verge]

Visually, Subject 22 could very well be the mimic as it does share similarities with what Schaeffer described.

"White skin, as if covered in ashes, almost human but not quite."

But we'd need more proof to really substantiate the idea.

[shut mountain]

one of the hands is quite "splashed", it can easily look like a claw in the dark

[ember bluff]

so schaeffer didn't get consumed into the mimics whole legion thing then?

I have yet to do DX still

[subtle verge]

It's more-or-less still tossed up in the air.

I can't say we really know for sure either way.

Narratively, I don't think there would be a reason to kill him off -- yet.

[ember bluff]

i don't think it is murder

[subtle verge]

(As he still holds the secret password for Shirtless Hackett pinups.)

[ember bluff]

more like taking over their persona

can the mimic absorb knowledge?

[analog frigate]

unknown at the moment

[subtle verge]

We don't know.

[ember bluff]

it just seemed that way based on the audio log with schaeff in the panic room in CX

they guy chooses us

the*

and henrikson

and then refers to himself as "us" in the audio log

I just assumed he was merged with the mimic in some way at that point, or it is the result of memory loss in the HSU

especially since he was seeking out specific skill sets

[analog frigate]

doesn't appear so

as far as we know, he made it to KDS Deep

but couldn't open the HSUs that were being used

to wake up someone

[subtle verge]

I'd imagine during the Mimic's meltdown at the end of the log, Schaeffer made his exit stage left.

[analog frigate]

so he got into an empty one because otherwise he would starve to death

[ember bluff]

i meant CX

not BX

sorry

[analog frigate]

definitely left the scene somehow

[ember bluff]

the panic room where you input the second password

the log there he is naming our group and henrikson

chosen for medical profession, hacking, etc

[subtle verge]

I'll be honest: I've not played passed BX, been busy with IRL so I can't really give you a solid answer since I don't fully know the context. I've just been keeping up with logs posted in here.

[ember bluff]

he was after specific qualifications

I wish i recorded it zzzz

I should rerun for it

[subtle verge]

Waiting for them to pop up in the Timeline/Wiki.

[harsh saffron]

Same

[ember bluff]

I will go find CX group and rerun

[ember bluff]

bucket

[frail pollen]

Don't mind me and my bucket

[analog frigate]

the bucket

[frail pollen]

I'm just looking for my bucket

[ember bluff]

please explain the bucket

[frail pollen]

I will explain after its found

[subtle verge]

The bucket is your crown, king.

[harsh saffron]

its up there ⏫

[ember bluff]

time to look for bucket

[unborn steppe]

I'm confused by that. When the characters where put into legion they lost all memories. One of Dauda's reactions to his own log is even him laughing at the fact he was supposedly a doctor. I think Schaff is just going nuts

[serene fractal]

Considering the bucket has been posted twice now, I would sure like to locate the bucket

[ember bluff]

watch the bucket not even be in the EXT

or this rundown even

[subtle verge]

🟥 🐟

[ember bluff]

yes, red square fish indeed

[frail pollen]

square blue

red pill blue pill

the matrix

gtfo is the matrix confirmed?

gtfo is the matrix, confirmed.

[subtle verge]

Every day this channel further drives me to take the black pill.

[ember bluff]

i mean

he did post it twice

[subtle verge]

Red Herring

[ember bluff]

i know

that is what red square fish means

[frail pollen]

#gtfo-chat message

[ember bluff]

oh wow

the most interesting part of that conversation is that they didn't know about /shrug

or /tableflip

how does someone not know that

[analog frigate]

i believe the bucket is of great importance

[serene fractal]

It's the lore bucket

[ember bluff]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[frail pollen]

Just so you know I'm not sending you on a wild goose chase, I did just verify that the bucket is in the Extension

[subtle verge]

I'll be sure to add that to my bucket list.

[frail pollen]

Here's a bucket to put that list in

[serene fractal]

What a beautiful bucket

[ember bluff]

ok so time to look for bucket

when I have people interested in bucket searching to run with anyway

[analog frigate]

we should notify people that they need to look out for a bucket

[frail pollen]

Don't set your expectations too high

[analog frigate]

i won't and don't

but we need the bucket

[ember bluff]

I think it is just a funny meme

pretty sure this leads to nowhere

[frail pollen]

I'm just surprised no one has found the bucket yet

[ember bluff]

to be fair, how many are actually looking out for it

[subtle verge]

Considering that the bucket is just, well, a drop in the bucket compared to what else is available...

I can see why.

[lilac island]

Does the bucket even really exist though? I’m not so sure

[cobalt mulch]

interact with the bucket and your tool changes to mapper? :)

[frail pollen]

The bucket has been a top priority and moved multiple times during the development cycle to ensure that it's current spot is perfect

[ember bluff]

interact with bucket and you become a biotracking bot

[cobalt mulch]

so theres a leak in the roof, a potential way out for the quad?

863m roof.. :)

[ember bluff]

cool

why haven't you climbed it then

We're gonna climb out and find out we were in a truman show situation all along

[snow yarrow]

I have a small question about the new ping

Inside, the doors end up sealed for some undefined reason and to avoid starvation, Schaeffer willingly enters an HSU, turning him into the KSO we occasionally encounter on our expeditions in-game.
How was this finding concluded?

[solar nova]

New ping?

[lilac island]

prob means the new pinned message

[solar nova]

Ah

[finite vine]

a voice log from BX

[pearl grotto]

Tarkov bucket, hope it keeps the sleepers away or smt idk

[pearl wave]

seen but cant remember where the bucket was lol

[manic shuttle]

It keeps the pmcs away

[pearl wave]

cx near special terminal?

[harsh saffron]

I found the bucket. I don't think it can get better than this

[frail pollen]

yessss

now what's the buckets purpose?

[final sentinel]

Thermonuclear weapon

Definitely

[harsh saffron]

I would suppose its true meaning will never be understandable for mere mortals. But I think Schaeffer used it for sanitary purposes.

nvm, Dak got it right

[pearl wave]

he definetly was cultivating SOMETHING in that

still fun how bucket has no bottom

[harsh saffron]

it transcends our physical plane of existence, normal matter will simply phase through it

[frail pollen]

the bucket has rusty holes in it

[cobalt mulch]

schaeffer wore it while playing his guitar?

[small zenith]

does anyone have a picture of specimen 22? I was playing w ppl but they picked it up/found it before I could see where it was

[pearl wave]

its up in the channel

@small zenith

[dim scroll]

It looks like the green guys from R4D2 if you played it

[small zenith]

Frankly terrifying! Thanks!

[dim scroll]

What GTFO does to a mf

[pearl wave]

anyone got a sniper zoom of the inside of bucket?

[serene fractal]

Is there anything else in that room where that same shade of yellow can be found? I've only done BX so far so idk the context for this room

[harsh saffron]

I don't think so, but also didn't really check for that ^^

[cobalt mulch]

just dmr zoomed. no obvious secrets. a pile of... something between the holes. could almost smell it.. :)

[frail pollen]

But did you taste it?

[serene fractal]

Probably lemon flavor

[lilac island]

Has anyone gone to the effort of recording the 6.5 audio logs yet

[eternal talon]

i got all the .txt logs

afik i haven't seen anybody go through and collect all the audio logs

though i put the names of all that i found in chat here the day the expedition dropped

[lilac island]

Well, I'm setup and ready to do it so I suppose I will

I'd like to make a checklist before I go, do you happen to know if anyone has a list of all relevant terminals?

[eternal talon]

not the terminals, terminal IDs change every single run

i do have a list of every audio log i found

way above

[lilac island]

Cool, I'll check that out

thank you!

[eternal talon]

while i was first going through it with @cunning bobcat i posted rough details on location, the ID of the voice log, and a short but rough transcript of most of them

[lilac island]

wow you have a lot of messages to sort through ahah

[eternal talon]

everything in the "for dummies" doc is either copied word for word from text logs in game, slightly worded differently to fit better with sentence structure, or the inclusion of small parts from the more important audio logs.

Edit: aside from the information below the disclaimer in the post apocalypse section

[lilac island]

do you know around the time you posted it

[eternal talon]

well yeah, i am VERY active in here

[lilac island]

I can see that

[eternal talon]

yeah, let me go get you a link to the top when we started digging in the extention

afik we were one of the first teams to go gathering all the lore

[lilac island]

I'm on page 12 and only at 5pm yesterday so far

[eternal talon]

so it is right near the very beginning of the 12th

[lilac island]

Awesome awesome

Once I get the recording and edit it down to just the audio segments, who should I send them to?

[eternal talon]

got them. 1 sec

^

^

^

^

^

^

^

[lilac island]

perfect, tysm!

[eternal talon]

it looks like that's all we posted in chat here, by the time we got into DX alot of other people had also joined the hunt

[lilac island]

Now I just need to find a team, off to lfg for me haha

I'll try to grab door/environmental audio logs too

[subtle verge]

IIRC all of the audio logs usually get ripped from the game files, or so I've been told.

[stark ore]

How do you access this log btw?

[snow yarrow]

btw what's the full name of KSO

kovac security office?

[solar nova]

Kovac Security Operative

[snow yarrow]

√

[solar nova]

Bro, did you just checkmark me w/ a square root sign?

Imma steal that tech.

[snow yarrow]

lol yep

[compact kindle]

Do we have any clue to what John Schaeffer’s stalker may be?

[rich blaze]

Some peeps here were talking about a Neonate baby

[compact kindle]

White paper skin, visible blue veins, covered in some sort of powder, capable of human speech…one of them were killed once by the sleepers, but not anymore…

….Neonate…Baby?

Oh! From R3!

[rich blaze]

Yep

[solar nova]

Does anyone know if there are logs specifically in Alpha Three (BX or DX)?

Or are all of the available terminals just auto gen?

[harsh saffron]

You can find it in CX; on the Terminal in Zone 181A. Not sure if that answered your question ^^'

[harsh saffron]

Didn't play DX so far, but BX should only have 1 terminal (or I didn't find the others) and that one only has an auto gen.

[rich blaze]

No Log in BX, had other priorities in DX

[harsh saffron]

Priorities besides logs?

[dull crest]

Can confirm.

Best dev leak (no pun intended) ever

[solar nova]

All new text logs are in the log database. I'll work on pulling and organizing the audio logs tomorrow. Might actually take some time, I need to check which audio files are which logs in-game.

How many audio triggers are there on doors, again?

I recall 2.

[quick grove]

Did you get hit over the head?

[quick grove]

There's only one you know that right it can regen lol

[dim scroll]

The bebi you get in R2E1

Nothing mentioned a single neonate iirc ?

We retrieved one but i highly doubt there is only one of them in the complex

[boreal sleet]

I think there is a bunch of them inside R4D2 Tank room

[quick grove]

Okay so when can i get the new mimic sound audio recorded by scheaffer?

[harsh saffron]

Do you mean a specific one? Because there multiple Schaeffer + Mimic logs
Like this one #gtfo-lore message

[quick grove]

I meant the new one

[harsh saffron]

Hm, I'm not sure which one you mean

was it a specific level?

[quick grove]

Nvm that's the one

Aight looks like the mother fucker can't speak much needs more time to learn and it don't seem like it wants to leave scheaffer alone

Quite interesting

@harsh saffron do we know more about the creature?

[harsh saffron]

Haven't played DX yet and I'm pretty sure I haven't found every log in CX. So I'm probably not the best person to answer that ^^

[quick grove]

Mother fucker the thing is 7 and a half hours old

[harsh saffron]

What I listened to so far was mostly more examples of the thing following Schaeffer around and talking to him

[harsh saffron]

Yeah I'm sorry I gave one of my team mates my spot for DX yesterday

[quick grove]

So its been following scheaffer around in the complex

[quick grove]

Nah your all good

[harsh saffron]

Sounds like it, there are at least 2 logs in CX where the thing is trying to talk to Schaeffer while he is moving around the complex, even when sleepers are sleeping right next to them

[quick grove]

Can i have second logs?

[harsh saffron]

let me check if someone posted it already, didnt get around to recording the CX logs yet

[quick grove]

Ah oky

[harsh saffron]

doesn't look like it, or I skipped past it. I can send it to you later if you want

[quick grove]

Aight

Sounds good

[harsh saffron]

[eternal talon]

no? "one of them were killed once by the sleepers" this isn't said at all, the log says they attacked it, they didn't kill it. as far as we know there is only one.

[harsh saffron]

Tbf the log says "they tore it apart" so I can understand both interpretations

[dim scroll]

It says he still roams after having been attacked

[eternal talon]

"white, blue veins under paper skin, almost human, almost. it was covered in.. dust.. maybe a powder, or ashes! from a from a fire! i remember the fires, outside from the person who was here before me

[dim scroll]

And schaeffer talks to it as well

[eternal talon]

"at first when the creatures heard it they tore it apart, as they ripped into, it kept talking, trying to speak. it had no fear, now, the creatures don't see it anymore, it walks through them, like a ghost. if it has no fear, it can't be one of us. next time i see it, i'm going to kill it"

[dim scroll]

There’s something else in here. I hear it, footsteps in the tunnels. In the walls, I hear it. Growling but not… not like one of the creatures. It… it tries to talk. To anyone, to no one but it’s using a voice that… that doesn’t belong to it. The words make no sense. I… I saw it once: White, blue veins under paper skin, so clean. Almost human; almost. It was covered in dust or maybe a powder or ashes. From a… from a fire… Yes… a fire. I remember the fires. Outside from the person who was here before me or is that a dream? A mountain of bodies on fire. Smoke blocking the sun. The dead and twisted… [sobbing] This is my fault. It’s all my fault! There is more than one. At first, when the creatures heard it, they tore it apart. As they ripped into it, it kept talking; trying to speak. It had no fear. Now the creatures don’t see it anymore, it walks through them like a ghost. If it has no fear it can’t be one of us. Next time I see it, I’m going to kill it.

[eternal talon]

^

IT in the singular sense

[dim scroll]

"As they ripped into it, it kept talking; trying to speak. It had no fear. Now the creatures don’t see it anymore, it walks through them like a ghost."

Therefore it's still alive

😳

[eternal talon]

unless that voice log in DX during the staircase of death is him tearing it limb from limb

because whatever Schaeffer was attacking, he was going to TOWN

[dim scroll]

Surely

[harsh saffron]

I didn't say its dead, I just meant I can understand how somebody would think it is

[dim scroll]

Even when it says it keep walking after having been attacked ?

[eternal talon]

yeah, but it's referenced in a singlular sense, not plural. that's what i was saying

[dim scroll]

People have to read the entire log

Not only the part they're interested in

[cobalt mulch]

anyone gone to the updated glass board in cx re: lore related (maybe?) ..

[dim scroll]

nah

[harsh saffron]

not yet

[dim scroll]

inb4 henrikson is gone

😳

[cobalt mulch]

spec 22 was just shot, not dismembered.. ahh the mystery..

[harsh saffron]

now that would be spooky

[eternal talon]

yep, or bashed, but it does have a hole in the side of it's skull

[dim scroll]

Even if specimen 22 was dismembered there are chances it's not the mimic

[eternal talon]

no gun or anything nearby, so more than likely not a suicide

[dim scroll]

I'd be really surprised if schaeffer didn't mention its green suit

Also schaeffer was in R4D2 iirc ?

So he may have seen the guys at the end as well

[cobalt mulch]

the talk about rebooting was most prolly a big thing

chips, cortex interfaces...

warden trying to create an avatar to self-carry out stuff.. dunno..

[eternal talon]

imo the biggest thing found in this rundown extension for me was probably either us finding out schaeffer's reason to becoming a KSO and how that occurred (trying to find anybody left alive, crawling through vents making a journey to KDS deep, getting locked inside, and climbing into a pod to avoid starvation)
or the unidentified "life form" that was found and had an autopsy performed on it.

[harsh saffron]

Agreed👍

[eternal talon]

this is that log btw ^

the schaeffer stuff is pretty much told exclusively in audio logs to us directly by Schaeffer just after the place was wiped out

[quick grove]

It has a name and its called mimic

[quick grove]

Life form?

[eternal talon]

yes, but that's not what i was saying

i was saying IT and not THEY,

i wasn't saying we don't have a name for it

[topaz flare]

ok ok

i have question

WHY IS UNIT 22 SO FUCKING DEFORMED

[quick grove]

Ah

[harsh saffron]

thats kinda rude 😦

[quick grove]

We fucking don't know

[hot burrow]

to much lean

[topaz flare]

the mans dead i don't care

[harsh saffron]

Good point

[topaz flare]

but its good to finally see what it looked like

and im...

kinda confused and dissapointed

[quick grove]

What?

The mimic?

[topaz flare]

yes

well

its not a mimic anymore

[eternal talon]

i doubt 22 is the mimic

[topaz flare]

cause its a human body

[quick grove]

Send photo pls

[eternal talon]

it's not covered in ashes,

[hot burrow]

this thing

[eternal talon]

it is human, it isn't ALMOST human

[quick grove]

Oh no that bitch ain't it

[topaz flare]

it is

cause sheaffer killed it

[quick grove]

Also the mimic can't me die due to it being able to regen

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/scp096-gif-22646499

we found him

[hot burrow]

facts

[topaz flare]

how do we know his regening

[eternal talon]

i didn't hear that anywhere

[quick grove]

Umm because schaeffer said so

[eternal talon]

log????

[topaz flare]

where

what log

we need logs

[quick grove]

Thing got torn apart and it got them parts back

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-bernard-the-office-i-want-names-snitch-nark-gif-15817480

[topaz flare]

but scheaffer said its sent by the warden

maybe it was a diff unit

[eternal talon]

????

[topaz flare]

think about lostty why would warden want to know what tf happened to unit 22

[quick grove]

Ummm sorry what now

[topaz flare]

and scheaffer thinks this as well

[eternal talon]

because he had us go through all the bullshit of reviving it in r2 and r3?

it's almost certainly the neonate

[topaz flare]

was that Unit 22?

[quick grove]

Unit 22 don't look like it got blue vains

[topaz flare]

i never played R2/R3 so idont know

[eternal talon]

NEONATE =/= mimic

neonate is the baby cradle we resuscitate

[hot burrow]

wait we thinking 22 is the neonate from R2/3?

[eternal talon]

yeah?

[hot burrow]

ok

I was thinking that too

just wanted to be on the same page

[topaz flare]

whatever it is its bound to a HSU

cause in R4 we saw a lot of dead bodies in D2 apex door

(the last tank door)

and all the bodies looked like this one

but had masks

or some kind of head cover

[hot burrow]

ya they did

[topaz flare]

so whatever unit 22 is

its from a HSU

did we put the neonate inside of a HSU?

like what did we do to it

at the end of R3/R2

[hot burrow]

Its was already in a hsu

[eternal talon]

the neonate WAS an HSU

[topaz flare]

like a bigger HSU

becasue neonate was a small hsu

made for babies

[eternal talon]

i never stuck around until the very end of r3,

but it could be possible with genetic engineering it just grew very fast.

[quick grove]

Warden must've sent someone to change it

[topaz flare]

maybe

[eternal talon]

or it's been locked in the data vault since it was a kid

[topaz flare]

but i think i know what warden is doing

ok everyone hear me out

[eternal talon]

since we have to open the bulkhead door to get in there with a scan

it was locked in

until whatever shot it, shot it.

inb4 sleepers learn how to use guns

[quick grove]

Must've been either schaeffer or other prisoners freaking the fuck out

[eternal talon]

since that mofo 💯 has a bullet-hole in his skull

[eternal talon]

we don't even collect it, WRDN just wants to find out what happened to it

we leave immediately after

we don't collect nothing, the objective is just to see it

it wasn't another team

or we wouldn't have to be there in the first place

[hot burrow]

"look how they massacred my boy"

[eternal talon]

we coulda just walked right out to extraction

[topaz flare]

what is the legion program suppose to do?
wipe your memory in hopes of removing your emotions (i think its because of that) cause as we know it seems sleepers can't sense someone if they don't have fear or something like that so warden is most likely using mimics to replace the prisoners as we have emotions and a gasp of reality
we have to remember in cannon the group of 4 (woods duada hackett and bishop) most likely never really died in the complex and done there task without dying

thats my theory anyway

please read ):

[hot burrow]

cute

[eternal talon]

wipe your mind, control your brain with neural interfaces, drugs, and (probably) cocaine

it turns people into basically flesh and blood robots

[topaz flare]

again no emotions

[eternal talon]

nobody sits in a broom closet for 6 minutes and leaves without saying a word

[quick grove]

Damn

[eternal talon]

BIOCOM was having issues with certain frequencies controlling the poisoners, but that was like in 2052

[topaz flare]

i think this theory has alot of good points as in C2 scheaffer says it walks among them and the mimic doesn't have any fear and if it doesn't have any fear it can't be one of us (aka prisoners)

[eternal talon]

so it's probable they fixed that for most of the KSO roster between then and now

[quick grove]

Typical BIOCOM

[eternal talon]

could be how schaeffer escaped though

since after entering that HSU he was..

wait wait wait WAIT.

IMPORTANT

VITAL INFORMATION

WHEN WAS THE FIRST SCHAEFFER LOG?

AND WAS IT BEFORE WE OPENED KDS DEEP?

[final sentinel]

yes

R4 i believe

[eternal talon]

it was before????

[final sentinel]

i think?

[hot burrow]

its was like in R4D2 I think

[eternal talon]

HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET OUT OF KDS DEEP THEN

[final sentinel]

WRDN

[hot burrow]

just went there

[final sentinel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal talon]

warden literally didn't have control yet

of kds deep

we get it access

[final sentinel]

frosto is right he did seal himself in

[harsh saffron]

R4C1 if I remember correctly, but in that log he was already confused

[hot burrow]

oh ya

thats it

[eternal talon]

there is no fucking way he could have woken up by himself

it's like a medically induced koma

and the WRDN couldn't

[final sentinel]

sooooo did the mimic wake him up?

[eternal talon]

who the fuck woke up schaeffer?

[eternal talon]

how would it get in there?

all the doors are locked tight

[final sentinel]

the screams of the damned

[eternal talon]

they still are when we go and open it later for wrdn

this is going to sound bat-shit insane, but hear me out

the only enemies we know that can teleport in the complex at this time are the allens...

[final sentinel]

huh well if he was already confused maybe it was just starvation delerium

[eternal talon]

nononono, he wasn't a KSO before. he left a log of him saying it wouldn't be him anymore if anybody found him in KDS deep

and that audio log isn't in KDS deep, it's in his hideout, god knows how far away

[final sentinel]

oh ok so we had an r4/5 log with him insane?

[harsh saffron]

that log is at the end of BX but you are still correct

[eternal talon]

this is insane information

he was locked in there tight with no way out, it was still locked when** THE SQUAD** got there, there were no teleporting entities other than the **allens **in the complex by this point, it has to have something to do with them

unless you go and say the devs fucked up with their lore

[final sentinel]

nah I don't think they'd do that

[eternal talon]

this shit is crazy

[harsh saffron]

I'm pretty sure somebody let him out in time so he could leave his post-hsu messages

[final sentinel]

but whomst

[harsh saffron]

no idea who tho

[final sentinel]

hmmm

[eternal talon]

nobody was alive down there, his log says explicitly everyone was asleep in KDS deep

[final sentinel]

Avengers Endgame moment: it was a rat

[eternal talon]

and when we get there the place is FLOODED with sleepers

[eternal talon]

even if that was the case, how did he get out of the room and not just starve to death near the terminal?

or fall down the shaft?

[quick grove]

Goodnight my fellow lore enthusiast

[final sentinel]

I mean didn't he use vents before?

just vent

[eternal talon]

yes but KDS deep's chamber for HSU storage is sealed shut

the only way in is that double bulkhead door

[final sentinel]

Maybe he made the drop

[eternal talon]

if you look at pictures it's just one taaaaaaall shaft filled to the brim with HSUs

[harsh saffron]

maybe WRDN could get him out, but was unable to get access to the rest KDS deep
or power went out for a section of kds deep and he woke up again

[eternal talon]

no, duck. listen. he couldn't have gotten him out because the doors were still locked until we got there

also,

if that was the case,

the wrdn could have had him use the terminal RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOOR

to give wrdn access

months possibly YEARS before we go down there as the squad

[final sentinel]

yeah so we assume schaeffer didn't wanna listen

[eternal talon]

right out of the gate, he wouldn't have a choice

look at bishop during the stokes log

also this is prior to schaeffer breaking his coding, so to speak

he'd still be 100% in control by the warden

he would have no say in the matter

body, or mind

because he only broke free when he was in control by the warden already

since he talks about his team getting wiped out

and being the only survivor

the only even remotely possible answer we have is one that is so fucking insane it might just make sense

some, piece of **allen **tech or the **allens **themselves teleported him to an accessible part of the complex for some reason

there is just no possible way the plot could be consistent otherwise

[final sentinel]

I mean he did have a log right before the MWP

[eternal talon]

there is just no other way he could have gotten out of there with it a) still being on lockdown
b) still being under the WRDNs control but not opening KDS deep months before we do,
c) not sit and starve to death if he was woken without wrdns control

and that's not even talking about the thousands of sleepers between him and "normal" warden operational territory

this was an E tier level

[final sentinel]

bro frost poppin off

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate, do you have any ideas of how this could have happened canonically?

without absolutely fucking the timeline?

i just don't have a clue

i'm stumped

[harsh saffron]

Time travel 👀

[eternal talon]

i don't even think that works really

unless he comes back with still all the drugs n' shit in him and his memories erased

[analog frigate]

what exactly?

[eternal talon]

we know from the new log Schaeffer enters a pod in KDS deep right?

[analog frigate]

i suppose so yes

[eternal talon]

the doors are sealed shut and he can't escape, right?

[analog frigate]

correct

he enters hydrostasis

[eternal talon]

how the fuck is his first log POST WRDN CONTROL outside of KDS deep?

since WRDN hasn't accessed KDS deep with our help yet

[harsh saffron]

Clone theory, we meet different version of Schaeffers consciousness, ez solve

semi serious

[eternal talon]

WRDN wouldn't have had his HSU

he physically couldn't have

[analog frigate]

we don't know when the log was recorded

it could've been before he entered KDS Deep at all

[eternal talon]

it was him POST WRDN though

after he broke free

given that it was there

and we found it

BEFORE that level

when it was recorded wouldn't matter

the fact we found it did

[analog frigate]

it would in fact matter when it was recorded

events in expeditions don't go canonically down

[eternal talon]

you don't go play the KDS deep mission then jump back and do previous levels, daraxus

that isn't how it works

[analog frigate]

we found the log before KDS Deep yes

but we didn't free him or something similar

[eternal talon]

and that log shouldn't exist then

[eternal talon]

he was in KDS deep, locked up

[analog frigate]

why should it not

[eternal talon]

in a medically induced coma

[analog frigate]

you saw his HSU or something?

make a point that makes sense

let me draw the timeline out for you

since it appears you disregard time again

[eternal talon]

i really feel you will see the same thing i see

the instant you start connecting these logs

but genuinely, please do

this shit don't make any sense at all

because either i missed something, or i found the holy grail of lore deets.

[analog frigate]

very difficult to write with a touchpad

anyway

here

[eternal talon]

so i was right??

those two can't be happening at the same time

you can't write Shakespeare in a coma

[analog frigate]

we have no exact time or date for when we go there or when he recorded the audio/sealed himself in HSU

[eternal talon]

what does that log say

which log is that

[analog frigate]

could you tell me how you got that

[eternal talon]

^

[analog frigate]

all of his audio logs???

[eternal talon]

NO

[analog frigate]

don't have any specific time?

[eternal talon]

what logs

at all

do we find of his pre-kds deep

what are they

pre- WHEN WE GO TO KDS DEEP

i mean

[analog frigate]

we don't know

[eternal talon]

to unlock it for wrdn

wtf you mean we don't know?

[finite vine]

yea it is kinda weird that we heard a Schaeffer log before KDS deep was activated. How did he get out if he locked himself in?

[eternal talon]

this is simple

[analog frigate]

because again, we don't have any time

[eternal talon]

we do

it's what logs you find

in-game

just give me them

[analog frigate]

probably deployed like us

[eternal talon]

from any level before the KDS deep level

that include Schaefer

[analog frigate]

i don't get how he couldn't have recorded them prior

[eternal talon]

he literally couldn't. it's a medically induced coma

[finite vine]

well we know he was deployed with a group, but if he was inside deactivated KDS deep then how did the WRDN access him?

[eternal talon]

i'm..

look

i'm going to make this real simple

i am looking for the logs

that include schaeffer

before we go to KDS deep

from any level before that

i will then look at those logs

if any are post wrdn control

i am right

[analog frigate]

then check the wiki for the logs prior to R5E1

[eternal talon]

that is what i am doing

[eternal talon]

thank you

[finite vine]

someone could of moved him around. I don’t think we really know much about KDS deep so there might be something we are missing.

[eternal talon]

he said everyone was asleep when he got there

[analog frigate]

why should've the warden accessed him before we went there

[eternal talon]

the warden physically could not have accessed him

[analog frigate]

yes

[eternal talon]

because that's why we go to kds in the first place

so if a post-control log was found before we go play that level

then something teleported him out

or time travel, or some whackey shit

[serene fractal]

Holy shit 300 messages in the past hour

did something big come up?

[eternal talon]

huge

inconsistencies in lore

[analog frigate]

so you are telling me that you assume that there is a post-control log

and don't actually know if there is

[eternal talon]

yeah

that's why i was asking if anybody had them

so i don't gotta go dig

i'm like 99% sure

there is

[analog frigate]

i know almost every r5 log

there isn't

we didn't even know he went to KDS Deep then

[eternal talon]

he was introduced in r4 though, right?

i could have sworn somebody said that

[eternal talon]

that doesn't matter in terms of timeline

[harsh saffron]

R4
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_004_Logs#SCHFR001.REC
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_004_Logs#SCHFR002.REC
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_004_Logs#SCHFR003.REC
R5
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_005_Logs#SQ5674_Y.LOG
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_005_Logs#DTLA-SCH-4PR.LOG
I think these are all Schaeffer audio logs in R4/5

[analog frigate]

those are all of them yes

[eternal talon]

This is... my name is Schaeffer. That's- (laughing) That's all I know. (stuttering) I don't remember. (grunting) Focus... Yeah, I know. Yes I know! It's okay. They can't hear me down here. FUCK THEM! (laughing) FUCK THE WARDEN! (laughing) (clearing throat) Call me Schaeffer. I don't know who you are, or if it will ever be heard. I don't know. I'm not going back up. They'll be looking for me, the warden. I must- maybe they think I'm dead! What if they've come for me? What if I'm giving myself away here? What if I- Listen... I was in a group, there were four of us. They're all gone. But I think there are others. Maybe you, if you're hearing this. Maybe, you came after us! Or, before. Or, I don't know. I don't know! But there are signs. I've seen signs. There are others here, I know it. There's blood, fresh blood. The air, it smells different. Something ALIVE was here. Maybe they can help me! Yeah, that's it! But how do I trust them? They... have... to... prove themselves! Yes, yes! They have to go deeper. They have to get me... something... yes... YES! They have to get me something. Not here though. They have to go deeper. Go Deeper. I'll be waiting.

this is in r4

[analog frigate]

the text ones you should be able to find if ou just scroll through

[eternal talon]

it is CONFIRMED

[analog frigate]

very quick to jump to conclusions

[eternal talon]

we found this during r4

waaaay before we did r5e1

[eternal talon]

not at all

there is plain evidence in front of you

to support my claim

that something weird happened

since this should NOT be possible

this log (SCHFR002.REC) CANNOT exist for us to find before we go and access KDS deep, since he would still be asleep in there, but there it is.

this log directly is post-warden control. the one where he talks about his squad dying too, he literally says "fuck the warden"

[serene fractal]

Could uh. Could I get an explanation of what inconsistencies you're talking about because I have no idea how far I need to scroll up

[eternal talon]

(SCHFR002.REC) PROVES, beyond a shadow of a doubt, something or someone got schaeffer out of KDS deep through unnatural means since the place is still locked up tight, and outside of the WRDN's control when this log is recovered by out team, and thus, impossible for it to have been written were this false.

what it was that got him out of KDS? we don't know. but we know it couldn't have been Schaeffer just randomly awakening because, y'know, Medically Induced Coma, and it was outside the WRDN's range before he sent us down there to give him access.

[serene fractal]

Also, are y'all seriously ignoring the fact that 2 10 Chambers folks have mentioned the bucket now?

[analog frigate]

no

the bucket is important

but we haven't found it yet

[serene fractal]

We did though

[harsh saffron]

we have

[analog frigate]

what

where

[eternal talon]

it's what teleported Schaeffer out of KDS deep
(jkjk)

[harsh saffron]

CX

[analog frigate]

which zone?

[harsh saffron]

right next to Schaeffer hideout

[analog frigate]

or anything important near it?

[analog frigate]

oh

[harsh saffron]

one second, Im looking for the pic

#gtfo-lore message

[analog frigate]

that's good

i believe it is of great importance in some way

[serene fractal]

I had assumed that 300 messages must have meant someone found something important about it but I'm not seeing anything scrolling up

[eternal talon]

you belive that, but not the holy grail?

[eternal talon]

we did wdym

[analog frigate]

there wasn't anything really

[eternal talon]

i just posted it

(SCHFR002.REC) PROVES, beyond a shadow of a doubt, something or someone got schaeffer out of KDS deep through unnatural means since the place is still locked up tight, and outside of the WRDN's control when this log is recovered by out team, and thus, impossible for it to have been written were this false.
what it was that got him out of KDS? we don't know. but we know it couldn't have been Schaeffer just randomly awakening because, y'know, Medically Induced Coma, and it was outside the WRDN's range before he sent us down there to give him access.

[eternal talon]

false

[analog frigate]

monty python isn't the most convincing person honestly

[eternal talon]

@serene fractal

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-just-a-flesh-wound-kicked-flesh-wound-wound-gif-12275696

[serene fractal]

when was this log? I only started playing at rundown 6

[eternal talon]

r4

an entire rundown before we go to KDS deep

where he was sealed up shut in an HSU

so something teleported him out of there before we got to KDS deep, and before that log was written

idk why you are so adamant i'm jumping to conclusions Daraxus, i put all of the evidence in this chat log directly in front of you

do you just not want to admit that i found something major?

i've been wrong before, alot. but this i actually found something here

with logs to back it up

[finite vine]

there is. Schaeffer describes himself and 3 other prisoners being controlled by the warden.

[serene fractal]

Ok so what did we do in KDS Deep? Listening to this on its own doesn't lead me to think any shenanigans occurred but idk the context for finding this one

[eternal talon]

i was almost certain there was, i didn't know what log it was

[eternal talon]

we go into it and get access for WRDN to be able to use the 20k or so HSUs inside i have been told

actually i think it's something like 25k

i don't remember

it's ALOT of KSOs though

it's basically the primary warehouse for all of Kovac's Legion Program

[serene fractal]

Interesting

Oh by the way, do we have any idea what the weird robot looking things are? This is an entirely unrelated question to the topic but they freak me out whenever I see them because I feel like one of these days we'll find one that's active

[eternal talon]

i have no idea

[serene fractal]

Is there anything else in the game that matches the off-yellow of whatever is in the bucket?

Do you think when whatever was talking to Schaef said "you gathered the items", it could be whatever was in the bucket?

[harsh saffron]

The emote is called Poopbucket, just before you look depper into that mystery

[subtle verge]

I actually do want to know what items are being mentioned.

I wonder if its talking about the MWP/Data Blocks.

[serene fractal]

One other thing I was thinking about; since the thing calls Schaef friend, do you think the thing could have been created from Art? Or do we know what happened to Art?

[harsh saffron]

I think thats the last log about him
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs#WRU-TYR
So yeah he's most likely dead

[subtle verge]

Art got torn to shreds. 😦

Second best guy, right behind Jordy.

[floral lance]

We heard descriptions of subject 22 throughout r6, now after seeing them do we have idea where it came from or what it is?

[subtle verge]

There's no concrete evidence to point one way or another in my opinion, however I believe it could very well be Schaeffer's "friend" by the description alone.

We'll have to wait for solid confirmation, I think. Though, I'd like to speculate that we already know.

[analog frigate]

btw did someone check what changed in some glass board in CX?

[serene fractal]

Something changed somewhere?

[subtle verge]

Patch notes state that a glass board was changed in CX. 👀

[serene fractal]

Oh huh, yeah it sure does say that

[royal finch]

So, anything new that we discovered through extension? Any mentions of who's Henrikson?

Haven't checked this channel for a while.

[shut mountain]

🤫

[final sentinel]

it is the chosen one

[royal finch]

👀... if they give the bucket lore...

[royal finch]

whats in the bucket, tell me now!

[shut mountain]

Nah-ah, my head will roll if I do :(

[subtle verge]

Least we'll have a bucket to keep it safe!

[subtle verge]

As far as I'm aware, Henrikson is a new name.

[frail pollen]

someone say bucket?

[final sentinel]

man I wish the bucket had garlic in it

[subtle verge]

Would keep the vampire sleepers away, at least.

[frail pollen]

||This is my bucket. There are many like it, but this one is mine.||
||My bucket is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.||
||My bucket, without me, is useless. Without my bucket, I am useless.||

||.tag bucket||

@shut mountain

[subtle verge]

Based Full Metal Jacket Bucket posting.

[serene fractal]

The bucket is the Warden

[royal finch]

Bet.

[floral lance]

See from my understand I’m of the assumption the entity wants to BE schaffers friend, but Schaffer doesn’t see it that way. Like say the subject was tested on and told friends share gifts with each other. He can bring a sleeper to Schaffer and say “here we are friends now” but that doesn’t mean Schaffer agrees to being friends. Imo the subject is part of a group that has been tested/interacted with by the warden or others and subject 22 is one who was able to get out of captivity. Thus others are able to see him around the complex as well. Iirc in r6c1 one of the logs talk about how people who worked in a certain part of the complex were being killed off for trying to share info possibly about these subjects.

[full hull]

Bucket needs to show up every rundown as an Easter egg

[subtle verge]

It's plausible, but given the dialogue between the Mimic/Subject 22 and Schaeffer, it more sounds like the Mimic/Subject 22 is attempting to persuade Schaeffer into letting his guard down or attempting to get him to assimilate in some way. However the log you're probably referencing is when Igor Rostock (Generalist Engineer) was killed by a KSO for "entering a restricted area" (sic).

[rich blaze]

Art's been known as dead since a while

Gianna is the new confirmed dead

[full hull]

Anyone check the list in schaeffer's gamer hole after the patch?

[subtle verge]

I'm also curious as to what Teale & Stokes were hearing, as they both are interrupted by whatever noise they hear in their HearSay logs.

Unfortunately Teale's is text-based versus Stoke's. But, c'est la vie.

[lilac island]

personal bet? they were suffering from the same hallucinations the people they were treating were suffering from

[serene fractal]

Yeah that's what I figured the implication was

[lilac island]

I don't think there actually WERE things they were hearing. The audio log with the text log actually straight up says "there is silence for x seconds"

[subtle verge]

That does make sense, considering what NAM-V does to someone and how infectious it is.

[subtle verge]

And we know that Teale was in close contact with Edgar, who began suffering schizophrenia/psychosis before the latest log.

[lilac island]

I've got all the audio logs recorded, as soon as I get out of the meeting I'm in I'll upload the audio here

[subtle verge]

Dope. Have been waiting on those.

[lilac island]

err

correction haha

I've got the logs from BX

need to do CX and DX today

[subtle verge]

I'm late to a lot of the conversations that happened yesterday. Finally had time this morning to go over the logs.

So anything and everything helps.

Good to see that the clone theory is thrown out the window, though.

[eternal talon]

punk, can i get your opinion on what i found?

i found a massive inconsistency in the lore

[lilac island]

oooh interesting

[eternal talon]

^

according to the extension audio log, he was trapped in KDS deep

but we have audio logs from him **after **he broke free of the warden, **before **we would have gone to KDS deep in the first place to give WRDN access to it

[subtle verge]

Let me pull them up really quick and I'll get back to you.

[eternal talon]

the log in question was recovered in r4. regardless of when it was written, it was an entire rundown before we even opened KDS deep to the WRDN

[lilac island]

(First Audio Log from BX)

[eternal talon]

duraxus doesn't want to acknowledge it and thinks i'm jumping to conclusions

[lilac island]

Note, in the audio log you'll here some various background noises, environmental effects and banging.
This was mostly due to the, er, overenergetic teammates I was playing with haha

It wasn't from the recording itself.

[subtle verge]

Understand that we're skeptics when it comes to these things. Lore inconsistency is a very hard topic to discuss and pinpoint because there are points in time where we think we've discovered something like that only to have it completely covered in a later rundown, or we took the information at face value without piecing things together. I'll get back to you when I go over it all. I assume we're looking at the "Deeper" audio logs from R4?

[eternal talon]

yeah, i get that,

but the thing here is;

the new log from 6.5, that talks about schaeffer going into hsu to avoid starving, right?

he says he didn't find anybody there, that they're all sleeping

and he got locked in, and could not get out

how the FUCK did he get out of a medically induced coma in an HSU, get out of KDS deep, get under the wardens control from there, and then proceed to do the events as we know them with his team getting wiped out?

since that log where his squad gets wiped out,

is from rundown 4.

[lilac island]

Audio Log 2 - R6.5 BX

[eternal talon]

kds deep, where we go in to open the place, lift the lockdowns and give WRDN access to the HSUs in there, is at the end of R5

i literally don't undersand it

[subtle verge]

Let me go over it all and I'll get back with you. Are there audio logs from the CX/DX that give more context?

[eternal talon]

the only way he could have gotten out of there at all is if someone teleported him or him and his HSU pod into wrdn accessable territory, since he was recruited like any other squad

[solar patio]

i mean anything could have gone wrong with the HSU system that ejected him early. The timeline stuff is more complicated.

[subtle verge]

I know of the ones in BX.

[eternal talon]

well i'm talking specifically about two logs from 6.5

the ones where he says he is making his way to KDS deep by traveling through the vents,

and the one where he makes it to KDS deep and gets locked in

[subtle verge]

My guy, I haven't seen all the logs from 6.5. I'm asking which logs should I look at?

[solar carbon]

Nerds

[subtle verge]

To understand where you're coming from.

[eternal talon]

i don't remember the names of them, i'm sorry.

[solar patio]

are the 6.5 logs dated?

[solar carbon]

I swear I always look at this chat and it’s always active

[eternal talon]

i don't think they were in DX

i don't remember many audio logs in DX at all, really

[solar carbon]

Lore lovers

[subtle verge]

Become one of us!

[solar carbon]

I cant

Im a WW

Wiki Worker

[subtle verge]

Haha

[solar carbon]

Not a LL

Lore Lover

[eternal talon]

they might both be in CX

since i didn't hear them when going through BX to get the audio logs with @lilac island yesterday

[analog frigate]

back then we had a different term

lore mole

[subtle verge]

Cool. When the audio logs get uploaded either here or the wiki/timeline I'll piece it together.

[lilac island]

Frostty, wanna help me get the CX logs in a few hours?

[eternal talon]

i can go right now

i want to prove this to daraxus

[lilac island]

I can not :(

[eternal talon]

that i actually found something major

[solar patio]

if they aren't dated perhaps the newer logs did happen earlier (before R4) but we only found them now?

[lilac island]

I'm actually at work rn haha

[eternal talon]

the log is post him turning into a KSO

he says during it that his squad was wiped out

[solar patio]

i can help as well if you need another person.

[lilac island]

Audio Log 3 - R6.5 BX

[eternal talon]

this is one of them!!!! @subtle verge

[lilac island]

lol

[eternal talon]

the one with him making it to KDS deep must be in CX

i'll go try and find it

[lilac island]

uhh

no

that's the one I'm editing rn

[eternal talon]

you have both of them?

of him making it to KDS deep?

and getting locked in?

[lilac island]

he gets to KDS deep and hsu's himself in the one I'm currently editing

[eternal talon]

fan-fucking-tastic

@ that shit to Punkthulhu

[lilac island]

poor schaffer so hungy

almost ready

[serene fractal]

Hungy boy

[solar patio]

Ahhhh i got you. So he basically went into the HSU to avoid starvation. The warden deployed him as a KSO but the problem is that the warden did not yet have control of KDS deep?

[eternal talon]

yes

[latent hatch]

Can I ask you a question here? audio log for R6.5 DX?

[eternal talon]

this is an entire rundown before he would have had access to schaeffer if he was still there

so something happened to schaeffer and his pod to teleport him out of KDS deep

[solar patio]

Thats what the lore channels for :)

[solar patio]

but he had a squad after he got out too.

[eternal talon]

yes, because he was under the WRDN's control

[latent hatch]

I don't know the GTFO story yet Could you tell me the identity of the people you are talking to here?

[eternal talon]

that same log in R4 he says "fuck the warden!"

[lilac island]

Audio Log 4 - R6.5 BX: Schaeffer HSU's Himself

[analog frigate]

the main voice you hear that's understandable is john schaeffer

[eternal talon]

@subtle verge this one

[analog frigate]

then the secondary one that sounds corrupted is what we know as the mimic

at least sounds like it

can't really tell from all the noise

[latent hatch]

ohohoh... THX

I was looking at https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki, but the worldview was too complicated to understand Thank you.

[serene fractal]

Yeah it's the same voice as what's been referred to as the mimic recently

[analog frigate]

you can check the pins

there's useful stuff there

[serene fractal]

Even leads with the same statement

[eternal talon]

there is a "for dummies" lore doc

[analog frigate]

also the notion timeline

[eternal talon]

if you are new, trying to get into the lore

[dreamy hornet]

Is there a running idea on what the mimic is? Is it BIOCOM, sleeper hivemind?, something else?

[analog frigate]

it appears not related to the biocom/warden

also sleepers aren't a hivemind exactly

they are a hive

[serene fractal]

But it knows the warden

[eternal talon]

BIOCOM doesn't exist anymore, it's the WRDN now, sleepers are a hive, not a hivemind, and we got no clue what the mimic is

[analog frigate]

close to ants

[dreamy hornet]

o good point, i guess my thought was something closer to "sapient agent of the hive" then

[solar patio]

Maybe... and this is really going out on a limb here. Could the warden have sent another team to kds deep to get shaeffer and possibly other HSU's before the full takeover of kds deep later by our main squad? Or could the warden have limited control of the sector and us taking it over was to use it as a drop off point to go deeper?

[dreamy hornet]

good to know that the mimic isn't the WRDN

[eternal talon]

WRDN is an AI

[analog frigate]

it seems to have one of the chips that the biocom used

or a corrupted one at least

due to it's digital sounding voice

also the fact that it knows the warden somehow

people have multiple ideas on what it is

the neonate, subject 22, some mutated sleeper variant we don't know

currently only speculation

[eternal talon]

it does have a bullet hole in it's head tho

[analog frigate]

a bullet hole

not blunt force trauma

[eternal talon]

likely a pistol or smg, small caliber due to the size of the entry point.

[analog frigate]

schaeffer beat to death whatever was in that log

[eternal talon]

no, it is a bullet hole, i am almost certain

i used to hunt alot

[analog frigate]

that's unknown

not only calibre matters, the type of bullet as well

out of the scope though

[lilac island]

lets be honest here the model is a little hard to tell

[analog frigate]

yes

[lilac island]

it could very well be someone trying to cut something out/off it's head

I think there was a theory about removing the WRDN chip thing

but that's all heresay

[eternal talon]

i don't want to post pictures of IRL gore here but..

[lilac island]

please don't

[eternal talon]

you can compare yourselves

i'm not.

[lilac island]

ty

it's true

[analog frigate]

bullet hole entry and exit differ from the type of bullet

[dreamy hornet]

Our group is just the most successful group of prisoners right?

[lilac island]

even in the 6.5 premission logs

[eternal talon]

yes. exit is usually alot bigger

[analog frigate]

hollow point shatters within the cranium

[lilac island]

it mentions sending multiple groups

[analog frigate]

ap leaves only a hole

only much higher calibres like .308 cause large holes even when ap

[eternal talon]

i know how bullets work, dude. i'm a midwesterner. everybody i know either owns a hunting rifle or a shotgun, usually both

[analog frigate]

well here no one has guns

[lilac island]

personally speaking It feels like we're supposed to interpret it as a bullet hole.

That seems like the correct assumption to make based on what we see.

[eternal talon]

data vault

[lilac island]

End of DX

[eternal talon]

very end of dx

nope

[lilac island]

It's very odd. The warden specifically wants us to Confirm the State of 22

[eternal talon]

just find the corpse and we leave