#gtfo-lore

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final sentinel
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kinda like the drop shaft

eternal talon
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it's not a gun, i'm just trying to explain it in a way that makes sense

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like >

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instead of 0

serene fractal
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was going to read through it but 450 messages is quite a bit lol

final sentinel
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the drop shaft with all of the material twisted and pointing upward

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i mean that's where my mind goes

eternal talon
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kinda, but nothing new if you are already familiar with the lore.

final sentinel
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i have been introduced to this rabbit hole :3

eternal talon
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Schaeffer in-lore

final sentinel
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schaeffer in game

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insane ranting

eternal talon
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hahahahahaha

solar nova
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Energy blasts that drilled to the surface.

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Doesn't seem to be a traditional explosion.

final sentinel
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equipment must've been constructed on top to figure out what happened, then sleepers were discovered

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that'd make sense as to why there's fog equipment down there

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bc there doesn't seem to be any reason for it in the context of normal mining operations (idk im not a miner)

subtle verge
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Time travelling ion cannon thrusters caused the explosion.

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Robert Losier is the one to blame.

final sentinel
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whomst?

subtle verge
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It's a meme, relax.

eternal talon
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oh hi medic

full hull
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Going back to the whole is cretesium man intelligent lifeform made or naturally acurring while it is possible that cretesium could maybe occur naturally it is much more likely to be artificially made as its easier to create the conditions needed to form an alloy in a lab than in nature, additionally if they had the technology to harvest the center of a star(a possible explanation of cretesium occuring naturally) it would probably be easier and faster to simply make a new core of a star or similar heat

full hull
eternal talon
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i found a physical description of the allens

full hull
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Also if this was naturally occurring cretesium it probably wouldn't be uniform and harder to work with

eternal talon
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they are Goro from mortal combat

full hull
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Also is the current theory that the stuff on the back of flyers is cretesium or more tumor scab things?

eternal talon
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no clue

full hull
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I wish I took a screenshot of the live one I found stuck in the floor in D4

eternal talon
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they look almost my calloused tumors, or dried solidified blood

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like a very rough scab

full hull
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Yeah that's kinda what they look like to me too

analog frigate
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they appear to be crystals

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the same teleportation ones

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since they appear the same and also seem the source of their ability to teleport short distances

eternal talon
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interesting. so if the allens also have these large lumps of callused tissue, it would confirm that theory?

full hull
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Actually, this debate might get cleared up tomorrow

eternal talon
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how so?

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we may encounter the mimic tommorrow, not neccessarily the allens

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unless the mimic is an allen, but the descriptions don't match perfectly

south lake
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I really don't get why you keep calling them 'allens' instead of 'aliens'

eternal talon
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we don't have a name for them

south lake
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Okay?

eternal talon
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and we have like 4 species of alien now

full hull
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Related logs and we have confirmed atleast one creature that looks like the flyers in it, that will give us another look at the back things

hot burrow
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wtf did miss. aliens?

eternal talon
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so allen being the ancient aliens and aliens being the other aliens helps us by not confusing the two

eternal talon
hot burrow
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oh

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ok

full hull
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And some third alien in the 6.5 trailer

eternal talon
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this is why clarification is important. its the same red alpha destination alpha thing again, except this one is a whole lot simpler and doesn't need to change until we get an official name

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i've been calling them allens for months

south lake
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You could just call them 'Infectors', given the assumption is that NAM-V hitched a ride on the meteor, which seems(?) to have originated from their world

eternal talon
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regardless, you can't get much simpler than allen

south lake
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I'd argue "allen" is more confusing, especially when people new to the lore get involved.

full hull
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Question, do we spell it allen or alIen

eternal talon
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same case for red alpha

south lake
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Red Alpha isn't a case of confusing naming, it's a case of people using the wrong name for something.

eternal talon
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ALLEN is the ancient aliens ALIEN with an I is all the other infected lifeforms on destination

full hull
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Aight

eternal talon
south lake
full hull
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Now what do we do if an important character named Allen shows up

eternal talon
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the confusion was the problem

south lake
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Please reread what I just said.

eternal talon
full hull
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Aight

eternal talon
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allen or allen

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or the alien allens

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🔧

full hull
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The you know, thoose guys

eternal talon
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and if we get another, we put it in italics

south lake
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Woe to the world if you were to ever actually get directly involved in the sciences, Frosty.

eternal talon
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allen, allen, and allen

south lake
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No one would ever be able to figure out what the hell anything is called.

eternal talon
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oh c'mon, it's not that bad

south lake
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Yeah, it really is.

hot burrow
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ya

full hull
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It's there their and they're all over again

subtle verge
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It throws me off really hard a lot.

eternal talon
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literally nobody has brought it up as a problem for the multiple months i've been doing it

subtle verge
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'Cause I see it and immediately want to think it's an inside joke/meme of the channel.

south lake
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Probably because they were being polite.

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Or didn't know better

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Or some combination of the two

eternal talon
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i dabbled in calling them precursors since they came before, but that didn't catch on

south lake
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Because "Precursors" is generally reserved for the precursors of a civilization

hot burrow
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some halo shit

south lake
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And implies that they made us if there's no explanation given

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Which.. clearly is not the case

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Not without potentially making the Faithers angry, at least. (But then they get angry at everything, so)

eternal talon
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i can't officially name them, i don't know what you want from me

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we don't have very much info at all on them to work with

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architects? MAYBE

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i dunno

south lake
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Since they were infected, why not Patient Zero for the collective group of them, assuming there were multiple?

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In this case Patient Zero would apply to the species, rather than an individual

eternal talon
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because patient zero implies the first infected human

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this goes both ways

south lake
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Patient Zero is not exclusive to humans

eternal talon
south lake
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Patient Zero is a designator specifically for the first documented patient in a disease epidemic

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Not necessarily human

eternal talon
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what do you think people are going to think if they hear about a patient zero?

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that's even worse than allen

south lake
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It's far easier to explain than "allen" VS "alien"

eternal talon
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allen is a NAME, are you insulting every allen out there?

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that they look similar is the point

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it's a NAME to call these ALIENS that we don't have an official name for

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i mean geez

south lake
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..I legitimately wonder what the hell goes on in your mind sometimes, Frosty.

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And then I decide I'd rather not know.

hot burrow
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whats wrong with calling them aliens again?

south lake
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It's "confusing"

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As if "allens" isn't

eternal talon
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chaos, winter, suppressed memories, and tea.

hot burrow
eternal talon
sonic citrus
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you guys can be so quirky sometimes

south lake
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Preaching to the choir.

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Since "Patients" apparently can only be human according to Frosty's weird-ass logic

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I put forward the suggestion of calling them Subject Zero

eternal talon
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you said what most people would think

south lake
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You literally just fucking said that Patient Zero implies they're human

eternal talon
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IT DOES

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100%

south lake
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No, it does not

hot burrow
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Patient Zero works with anything

south lake
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That's what I said

subtle verge
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The only problem I have with the term alien is that the sleepers aren't technically aliens to earth, they have more natural history than humans.

south lake
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Aye

hot burrow
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They have done it with monkeys, bugs, etc

subtle verge
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Floaters, Kraken, etc. I'll concede to.

south lake
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Sleepers are, if anything, heavily mutated humans.

full hull
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Patient zero can be any species but can imply human depending on context

eternal talon
hot burrow
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I can imagine a home world full of krakens and flyers

full hull
eternal talon
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i'm refering to floaters, kraken, the new things, and the ancient allens

eternal talon
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it is the common definition, TODAY

south lake
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Since you're being a twit about it

eternal talon
solar nova
# eternal talon

Language is flexible. Allens are probably not in the same class as animals, so it could go either way.

eternal talon
south lake
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The term has been expanded into general usage to refer to an individual identified as the first carrier of a communicable disease in a population (the primary case), or the first incident in the onset of a catastrophic trend.

full hull
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It depends alot of context

south lake
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Specifies INDIVIDUAL

full hull
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What was the original context this argument sprung from

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Gimme the log

solar nova
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In-fact, there would probably be two patient zeroes.

eternal talon
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it isn't a log

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medic

solar nova
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The first allen infected, and the first human infected.

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Both are completely legitimate uses of the term.

eternal talon
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it's edeon arguing we shouldn't call the aliens we have no name for allens

hot burrow
subtle verge
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I also have a problem with "ancient alien" theory because we don't have evidence for the claim, and that's including data blocks and the MWP.

south lake
eternal talon
solar nova
sonic citrus
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Does Allen have some meaning that I don't know or have you chosen it "arbitrarily"?

full hull
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Then it depends on if your talking about the first being EVER infected, the source of the infection on earth, OR the first human infected. Yes context matters

full hull
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They could all be called patient 0

south lake
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Patient (or Subject) Zero is the originator, which would be the aliens in this case. Patient One would be the first human infected.

subtle verge
sonic citrus
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Okay, it seems like a meme

south lake
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Also because people don't like disagreeing with Frosty for this very reason

hot burrow
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Lets fucking call them extraterrestrials

eternal talon
hot burrow
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I dont give a fuck

eternal talon
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we are taking about making a term to specifiy ONE

south lake
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"Allen" is a shit term for that

eternal talon
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rude

solar nova
# south lake Not how epidemiology works.

Not really, it's context dependent. Patient zero will depend on what perspective you're taking when analyzing a disease. Are you looking at the disease's general history, or are you only looking at the human population that it's affecting?

south lake
hot burrow
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Lets just make Aliens the placeholder name for right now until more stuff comes out

eternal talon
full hull
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How about we call them whatever the hell we want and assume we are all smart enough to pick up on context?

eternal talon
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and that's ignoring everything else

hot burrow
full hull
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Aight

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Ted is a cool name

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I'll call them Ted too

hot burrow
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bro ted lore

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out of this world

south lake
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So much for the lore channel being fucking organized, I guess.

full hull
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Ted lore is important

solar nova
full hull
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Teds came from outer space just to give us all mega aids

sonic citrus
south lake
solar nova
south lake
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And yet you're deciding to argue it. As I said, I'm not going down that road again.

eternal talon
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@subtle verge

solar nova
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Also, you whipped out "from an epidemiological perspective," so that's your own sword you're falling on.

eternal talon
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i normally don't agree with rayalot alot, but 100%.

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here is data blocks too

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half the page is in highlighter

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i'm pulling more gimme a min

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gonna pull 3 dozen logs

solar nova
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What does this have to do with what we were on about?

eternal talon
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apparently punk thinks allens aren't confirmed

solar nova
south lake
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Frosty, "confirmation" for you seems to mean "anything even slightly hinting towards xyz"

eternal talon
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what creatures from destination have we seen that look like this?

south lake
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Your mindset seems almost crackpot conspiracy theorist in how it operates

eternal talon
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it is not at all edeon

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this is literally plaintext

subtle verge
# eternal talon <@156901751838998528>

Where exactly does this say it's not of human origin? Lack of evidence for one claim is not a reason to claim evidence for another.

It's vague at best.

south lake
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That some dude saw the shape of something in the darkness

south lake
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You know what people have trouble discerning shapes and colors in?

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Fucking darkness

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And it's extremely fucking dark in Garganta

eternal talon
south lake
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You know what's also a thing?

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Hallucinations caused by extended residence in the underground.

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Humans are not meant to be crammed in tunnels for years upon years

eternal talon
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edeon, can you just stop?

south lake
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You first.

eternal talon
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we know this log isn't just hallucinations. we've heard descriptions of similar creatures before from schaeffer

solar nova
south lake
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Yes, Schaeffer, who's totally psychologically stable.

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/s

eternal talon
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again, this is a video game

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not irl

subtle verge
solar nova
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Bit of a jump to say what is probably some kind of sleeper has been there for years and years, and also that wouldn't make them terrestrial either if they are only here because of the fossil.

eternal talon
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we aren't getting this from some loonie in a psych ward, this is lore deliberately given to us by the developers

south lake
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Okay? That distinction doesn't change the fact that some tunnel digger and batshit madman's testimonies are unreliable at best

eternal talon
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this is a STORY

south lake
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Someone hasn't read many good books then, I see.

eternal talon
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nobody would just write something for it to never come up later

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that's bad writing

south lake
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Do you not understand what misdirection is?

eternal talon
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arguing to you is like licking sandpaper

solar nova
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Usually you're gaining something from misdirection, not just lying to the reader for no reason.

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What is the proposition being argued, anyway?

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That the fossil is alien? That NAM-V is alien?

eternal talon
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well yes

south lake
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Frosty's argument is "so-and-so saw aliens, so there's aliens"

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Because apparently a story isn't allowed to mislead people

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Ever

eternal talon
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with as little information as we've been given? no

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we are dripfed info

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that's how gtfo has always told it's lore

solar nova
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Well, sleepers exist in universe, so I'm not understanding how this influences the general proposition.

south lake
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Sleepers exist, sure, and we know the parasite doesn't originate from Earth.

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But some tunnel digger that's been down there for god knows how long saying he saw and heard some monstrous creature in the tunnels doesn't automatically mean aliens

eternal talon
eternal talon
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atleast the sleepers we've seen on earth

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the ones on destination, the floaties, can

solar nova
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So it sounds like you agree? Sleepers are alien, by proxy of what creates them being alien.

eternal talon
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but floaties aren't humanoid

hot burrow
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whats going on now?

eternal talon
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talking about ancient aliens existing and i'm desperately trying to prove the obvious

hot burrow
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ah

south lake
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Obvious and yet you're the only person seeing it.

hot burrow
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the usual

south lake
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Sure.

eternal talon
solar nova
eternal talon
solar nova
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What feature?

eternal talon
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none of the human sleepers we have seen have had this ability, only the ones unique to destination

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teleportation

solar nova
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You don't understand

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You're alleging teleportation

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but the log doesn't necessarily demonstrate that in the text.

south lake
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AFAIR the tunnel digger never said anything about the thing teleporting

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Only that it was gone when he looked back, or some such

eternal talon
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one sentince

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word for word

solar nova
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I remember this log differently.

eternal talon
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here is the link

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i've reread this log alot today

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almost every single thing i've said in the past 20 minutes are copy-pastes from logs

subtle verge
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Still not substantial evidence. Anecdotally: if you thought something materialized in front of you, you would think it's either a ghost or from another dimension as well.

solar nova
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That might be misdirection, though.

south lake
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And again

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People can't see for SHIT in the dark

solar nova
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I think "there was a sleeper" is much easier to just assume than "it teleported," although the wording is definitely strong.

sonic citrus
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materialised in the dark doesn't necessarily mean appeared out of thin air. It likely means "became visible"

south lake
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You ever watch people walk out of a patch of pitch black?

eternal talon
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he heard it teleport

south lake
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Yeah? Guess what tunnels also do

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Distort noise

solar nova
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Sure, I'll grant it then.

south lake
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For all he knows it could've been clinging to the ceiling

eternal talon
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thank you my man

solar nova
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It seems likely there was a humanoid sleeper, and it teleported.

eternal talon
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he says he saw it standing

south lake
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Before or after the sound

eternal talon
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before

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the sound is it leaving

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it's a dead end tunnel

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with the exit brighly lit

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for 25 meters

subtle verge
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That's incorrect, it ends 25 meters before the end of the tunnel.

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"The light ends about 25 meters from where the end of the tunnel."

eternal talon
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well yeah. the exit/entrance to that dead end tunnel is brightly lit

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for 25 meters

subtle verge
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Because of that remaining darkness, he turned his headlamp on, but can't much further because of the dust etc.

south lake
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So dust, darkness, remind me how people's eyes work again?

subtle verge
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With a descriptor like that, it more sounds to me like the sound you'd hear when you're getting tongue lashed.

eternal talon
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then he sees it, and he runs

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he starts yelling and werner, a different person, shines a flashlight down the tunnel

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the tunnel is empty

solar nova
south lake
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I think it's possible, but to state it as fact is asinine.

solar nova
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Well, to be super clear, I'm asking about intention.

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So, if it's misdirection, it's still intended to present that way.

south lake
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I think the intent was to emulate how someone is prone to exaggeration and suppositions when figuratively smacked in the face with an extremely traumatic event.

eternal talon
south lake
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The human brain has a nasty tendency to jam puzzle pieces where they don't belong when things don't make sense.

solar nova
south lake
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The fact he wasn't able to see it clearly, didn't know what the sound was and yet makes an assumption despite not seeing the source.

solar nova
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From the writer's perspective, what is this log about?

eternal talon
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it's two people

eternal talon
south lake
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Frosty, would you shut up?

hot burrow
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ooooo

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you going to take that

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you should fight him

eternal talon
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you started this war, plunged skyrim into chaos

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i'm not about to start a fight over a petty arguements

south lake
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The fuck do you call pushing people's buttons then? Entertainment?

eternal talon
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oh i'm sorry, is that not what you have been doing to me for 10 minutes?

south lake
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Get your head out of your ass. Maybe you'll be able to see clearer.

eternal talon
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i'm not going to sit here and fight with you like toddlers

south lake
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Go on, then

subtle verge
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Anyway, I'mma go to the store. Anyone need anything while I'm out? Melatonin? Pack of smokes? 6-pack? A cup of Santonian Coffee from Santoniabucks?

eternal talon
subtle verge
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Noted. Expect a care package to your indicated Project Insight P.O. teleportation pads in approximately 45 minutes.

solar nova
eternal talon
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indeed. everything we have points to him actually seeing something

south lake
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And for the record, my messages don't show up as "Typing..." because of a plugin I have.

hot burrow
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cute

eternal talon
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this log has a typo, also damn this redacted. would save me sooo much trouble

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you literally couldn't get closer to confirming aliens right-out

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literally milimeters

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@dull crest this log says "were been constructed" typo?

eternal talon
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hi duck

harsh saffron
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There are a few typos in logs actually. I remember like 6 or something.

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hi hi

sonic citrus
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Oh, I noticed in EBDT-WDX-5RA it says Renumeration instead of Remuneration when reading it

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In case that hadn't been spotted

eternal talon
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do you agree than ancient allens are all but confirmed in plain-text?

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i feel like i'm going crazy

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everyone was on the same page but now suddenly not

harsh saffron
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I have been reading everything here so I would rather not get involved ^^

eternal talon
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whyyyy

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this is fundamental lore

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it is crucial to everything

hot burrow
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The name allen is crucial

eternal talon
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if not ancient allens, we might as well go back to the lore we had in 2019

subtle verge
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The shit slinging isn't crucial. Also fuck this red light it lasts way too long.

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I swear it's on a 5 minute timer.

hot burrow
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tbh I would prefer the 2019 lore

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then this

harsh saffron
subtle verge
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I was fully stopped and my car idled and turned off ok

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Onwards!

hot burrow
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skill issue

harsh saffron
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Ok, I'll give you a pass then Hackett_Heart

harsh saffron
harsh saffron
sonic citrus
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Do the devs pick up those minor changes?

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tbh I don't know if the log I mentioned appears in game or was from the website or something else

eternal talon
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how did andrew clinton die

harsh saffron
harsh saffron
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I will be serving as the Project Manager for Santonian Mining Company until a suitable replacement can be found. The tragic loss of Andrew has affected us all deeply, but we must carry on regardless. That is what he would have wanted.

I will attempt to make myself available to you as much as possible but would appreciate patience as we make changes in response to the tragic events of October 13th.

sonic citrus
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Okay excellent, keep up the good work Duck I'm counting on you

soft tartan
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Is there anything in the logs supporting the chimp theory?

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Lets revisit

shut mountain
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Im about to ban this person

radiant cedar
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do it pls

shut mountain
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if anyone asks it was admin abuse

soft tartan
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They want to ban me because I’m closing in on the truth

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Those coordinates discussed by Amanes might point to the Atlantic but what if there is a chimp laboratory down there?

frozen inlet
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are we returning to monke?

eternal talon
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hopefully not

soft tartan
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hopefully yes

eternal talon
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we got pretty close about 10 minutes ago

harsh saffron
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finally returning to the best theory WoodsPraise

eternal talon
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chad theory?

harsh saffron
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Maybe PirateSimon

frozen inlet
dull crest
harsh saffron
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wdym? you haven't read every single log? 👁️

dull crest
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Imagine that 🙂

eternal talon
dull crest
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The logs are written by Adam Gascoine and Simon, I’m not really involved

cobalt mulch
cobalt mulch
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i apologize and i immerse as u and all of us lore-heads, i love the myth to death

harsh saffron
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I forgive you ^^

cobalt mulch
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i frickin wanna see the fossil and get a better description or even a video evidence of the event that bore the upward tunnels

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i wanna hear more of schaeffer or even get to see him someday

harsh saffron
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video logs 👀

cobalt mulch
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i want to see the mimic and not have to cfoam and mine and shoot it to death, first something cool

eternal talon
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singleplayer rundown mission with you and an ai schaeffer?

cobalt mulch
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nah, that would destroy everything, NPCs suck bigtime

eternal talon
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tell that to dragons dogma

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companions in that game some of the best i've ever seen

cobalt mulch
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corrected i stand, haven't played.. but the lore stuff u guys are doing, the decrypting and figuring out and chasing the leads, it's a constant 3d-glasses and popcorn event

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awesome stuff

eternal talon
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and the other 40% with arguing and yelling over text

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it's so so.

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sometimes i really miss the old basic lore,

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is alot easier to digest without having to dig through ciphers and all kind of nonsense to access basic information we know already.

eternal talon
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given the new trailer,

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it looks like that mountain-high sandstorm is coming right for us.

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@0:22

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the terrain also looks identical to a1

cobalt mulch
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sandstorm or explosion of somekind?

eternal talon
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it really looks like sand

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unless an explosion threw up sand, i dunno

frozen inlet
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possible that we need to take cover from the sandstorm and in the cave (if it the same place) we discover something horrible and retreat into the sandstorm and it follows us out

solar nova
eternal talon
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DISSAPOINTING

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what in there ISNT r6 trailer footage?

frozen inlet
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this part

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im sure it is D2

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without the fog

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for some reason

solar nova
gaunt imp
cobalt mulch
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(doesn't sound like any of the 4 to me)

full hull
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They showed the kraken fight in the trailer again

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I will sue for false advertising if we don't refight the kraken this is a joke

solar nova
cobalt mulch
#

ty

subtle verge
#

All of the voicelines in the trailer we've heard in-game.

full hull
#

We have yet to actually be running on an open plain like in the trailer no?

#

maybe we will in 6.5

solar nova
#

This looks a lot like A1, even.

#

I doubt it's a tile unique to the trailers.

subtle verge
#

Actually yeah, that is A1.

#

That's roughly 50 meters out from where you're ported in.

#

The cave you mentioned, Ray, would be about an inch or two to the left of the edge of the screen.

finite vine
#

maybe that part of planet alpha we briefly jump to during A1 is where alpha three is located at.

keen mantle
#

It showed what looked like a pod opening up

full hull
#

Reminds me of deep rock galactic cave leaches

toxic wagon
#

Damned Cave Leeches

agile plinth
#

shafe birthday today

frail pollen
topaz hollow
#

The coolest piece of "lore" in my opinion was Schaffer leaving the tape in one of the E1 levels saying he could hear us progressing through the area, then he gets cut off by sleepers attacking him

dim scroll
#

R4E1

topaz hollow
#

That's the one

#

with the completely insane Tank error right?

dim scroll
#

It wasn't that insane but yes it's this one

topaz hollow
#

to someone who started in r6 it looks pretty nuts to me

#

Honestly KDS seem like even worse employers than Deep Rock Galactic

vocal cove
# solar nova This looks a lot like A1, even.

All our trailers are being recorded in game/rundown (no special maps are being made just for trailers). Sometimes I record in an earlier build, so things might differ a bit from the final version.

full hull
#

Aw shit, this extended is probably gonna be huge for the lore

full hull
#

Did anyone grab all of the lore while we had the dev build for afew seconds?

shut mountain
#

No abuse

#

or I'll grab you by the neck like a chicken handL

lilac island
#

Promise?

shut mountain
solar nova
full hull
#

Nice, I understand none of that

harsh saffron
#

oh no, im gonna have to leave until my group can play, have fun Hackett_Wave

solar nova
full oar
#

terminal also has audio log

full hull
#

Teale is probably infected too

#

That's either an audio hallucination or something is actually in the walls in r6.5

#

God I hope nothing is in the walls

rich blaze
# solar nova

This kinda looks like they clear people of any Virus/Sickness during HSU

full hull
#

Then why didn't we cure NAM-V by shoving people into HSUs?

solar nova
agile plinth
#

solanums

full hull
#

Oh fuck

#

I thought the devs said there was no time travel?

#

This seems like time travel

agile plinth
#

we'll see

agile plinth
#

@solar nova are those from within garganta?

agile plinth
#

yeah but is that expedition in garganta

full hull
#

Almost certainly

solar nova
full hull
#

Is that a person inside a sleeper?

#

The fuck

serene fractal
#

it's a sleeper bag 🏕️

eternal talon
#

audio log TLK-WRL-295 on the bridge in b level

#

can't record audio, but it's there

#

collecting pics of all other logs

hot burrow
eternal talon
#

another audio, just before extracting coords, same terminal, PRG-TLX-778

#

oooh schaeffer log

#

he is moving through the vents, half-life style

#

there are a hundred of them in the commissary

#

he is going to KDS deep

#

this appears to be pre-KSO-ification of him.

#

audio right next to extract TLK-WRL-295 (QTS-BNN-996?)

#

he made it to KDS deep

#

they are all in hydrostasis, he doesn't know how to wake them

#

he locked the doors, but he can't get them open

#

he says he is going to starve to death

#

so he willingly goes into a HSU

#

he says if someone ever comes to get him out, it won't be him anymore, but he refuses to starve to death

analog frigate
#

so i was correct in him being a dauda-type KSO

#

entered because he had no choice

eternal talon
#

i will keep posting and after i beat them all, i will dump a copy of EVERY text log

#

o7

#

heading into the C level now with @cunning bobcat

unborn steppe
#

well good luck transcribing whatever the fuck the creature is saying in CX (zone 184)

#

that hurt to listen to and the massive silence at the start makes replaying it annoying

analog frigate
#

possibly send an audio file of it and we can do it

unborn steppe
#

aight gimme sec

eternal talon
#

very start of C, audio PTJ-CRU-9D9

#

another state of truth broadcast

#

talking about building Garganta destroying habitat

#

"talking about mass extinction of land and sea species"

#

heading to a complete and total environmental collapse in the yucatan

#

though i doubt he would have known just how true he was

#

he is talking about the concrete, contaminants and stuff from the construction

forest pawn
#

so smart frosty

eternal talon
#

i don't have to do this

#

i don't have to help

forest pawn
eternal talon
#

NOBODY IS **EVER **NICE TO ME

#

I DOUBT IT

forest pawn
#

THEN I GUESS IM THE FIRST ONE

unborn steppe
#

also when u guys get to the main area of CX theres a hidden ladder that leads to i think schaffers hideout

#

it has a terminal locked wiht passwords im probably not gonna get to. Im playing solo w bots and C levels tend to not be that easy with them

analog frigate
#

well send the terminal stuff here

#

i won't really have a chance to play the extension

solar nova
unborn steppe
subtle verge
analog frigate
#

i'll try but dunno

#

not much free time to do anything these days

subtle verge
#

That's fair.

analog frigate
unborn steppe
#

gl main thing I got from it is the creature was born 7.5-8 hours ago but the whole time travel thing makes it unreliable. Also I think it ate schaff 😦

analog frigate
#

it wants shafe to become on of them

#

a "friend"

#

join ???

subtle verge
#

GOD DAMN THATS CREEPY.

analog frigate
#

i'll try and listen closer on headphones to discern what it's saying

eternal talon
#

another audio file while messing with power generators in the sewers, T43-777-45M

subtle verge
#

I'm getting out of bed. I gotta listen to these.

eternal talon
#

it's a schaeffer log

#

he says stay there, then silence

#

uhhhh... power went out? again?

#

that log might start an alarm

unborn steppe
#

just wiped dont have time to try again gl guys. the code for schaffs terminal are in 186

raven bay
#

is voice is cringe as f

unborn steppe
#

i cant make out what its saying when asked about the warden. "yes (gave?) life I am very young"

#

is the creature the neonate from rundown 3?

raven bay
unborn steppe
#

ok so it was born 27354 seconds ago = 455.9 minutes = 7.5983 hours

eternal talon
#

another audio log, the energy power terminal, Y6T-UH7-811

#

schaeffer

#

...

#

ITS THE MIMIC

#

"we aren't so different"

#

"hello scha.."

#

"is anyone there?"

#

"Hello?"

#

"i am a friend"

#

"We are not affraid"

#

banging

#

"are you a human"

#

loud screaming

#

"your not making any sense"

#

"we will try again"

#

more loud shuffling heard

#

end log

analog frigate
#

shafe: stay there, ok?

creature: i am the ?one ?dizzener??, no, i am the ?finder of one's misery?, the (unintelligible) my liberty. yess, we are not so different, you and i.

shafe: where'd you come from? did the warden send you?

creature: warden, yes, (unintelligible) i am the real-

shafe: FUCK THE WARDEN, KEEP AWAY FROM ME, BACK OFF!

creature: ?you gather the pitanance?, it is my birthday, born 27,354 seconds ago

shafe: HUH, WHAT? BORN?

creature: to start, to exist. i hope that you ?loss? our work in ?alt? and all true false future self should reboot

shafe: what? that doesn't make sense

creature: you should make a conversion of ?medical? (unintelligible) and of your mind. FRIEND

shafe: you, YOU KEEP AWAY FROM ME. BACK OFF! I MEAN IT-
[i don't include shafe speaking after this since it's understandable]
creature: YOU FOR MASS ?? WHEN YOU BECOME ONE OF US AS THE ?HAMMERMASS? THEN FRIEND (completely unintelligible)

#

this thing

#

i think it's the neonate

#

also that's a very rough transcription

#

i can't understand almost anything with the echo and background noise

#

it seems like the warden sent it to make shafe lock himself in an HSU

#

but i'll need the rest of the logs to provide a conclusion

unborn steppe
#

I'm trying to transcribe aswell but only what the creature says since schaff is easy to understand

analog frigate
#

yeah, the creature's speech is a bit too garbled

#

someone needs to ~~||datamine ||~~record the audio without echo

#

but that's around the best i can give you in terms of what it's saying

#

i'll need to de-noise it to get anything more

raven bay
#

nhmmm, i can try, i finish to test BX 🙂

eternal talon
#

i got schaeffer's terminal open

analog frigate
#

what's the pass

eternal talon
#

ROOF

#

but it could be different per run

analog frigate
#

interesting

#

what's on it

eternal talon
#

audio log.

#

TY5-ERS-23B

#

he is typing

#

saying names

#

what kind of person understands them?

analog frigate
#

someone will probably record it soon enough

eternal talon
#

heavy breathing

#

i have to understand numbers

#

we are numbers..

#

i need a programmer?

#

like BISHOP

#

wasn't he a programmer?

#

hacker?

#

yes yes

#

christie, fortuna, no, harrison

#

computer science

#

as good as bishop?

#

questions with no answe

#

now, who can fix things?

#

make them work for us instead of the warden

#

hear that? IM COING FOR YOU

#

you haven't got mine!

#

oh we need a medic, like dauda

solar nova
eternal talon
#

they work so well, just like them,

#

i need a woods i need a hackett,

solar nova
#

Also, I'm probably going to wait for 2 weeks to start pulling files for the Notion.

eternal talon
#

oh- time to move

#

end log.,

analog frigate
#

so he has been monitoring our group for some time

terse spoke
analog frigate
#

and is trying to get people like us

eternal talon
#

it worked for me and Exterminator

#

that error alarm in the dark was BULLSHIT

#

invisible sleepers coming from EVERYWHERE

terse spoke
#

yes

#

we respawn 3 time

analog frigate
#

or d3

#

haven't played in a long time

terse spoke
#

is c3+d2

raven bay
#

it's just me or there is a lot more of scratching noises in the walls / conduits than usual in BX ?

analog frigate
#

coincides with what teale said

unborn steppe
#

"are you a prisoner? no I am not confined or restrained I am up in the ?pride? of my liberty"
"yes we are not so different you and I"
"warden yes ?clone? life I am very young"
"you cant hurt ?the items? it is my birthday born 27,354 seconds ago"
"to starve, to exist I hope that will ?wash? our work in out and ?if? true false future self should reboot"
"you made conversion of (unintelligible) of your mind. friend"
I can't understand the rest

analog frigate
#

yeah that's close

#

except it said something about medical stuff after conversion

solar nova
#

CX as well.

#

Might be a thing for the base game, too.

analog frigate
serene fractal
#

Gonna run that audio through a couple different filters and see if I can't get something easier to hear

analog frigate
#

sounds good

unborn steppe
#

also theres a second log in that terminal I should've screen capped. It's a bunch of flagged phrases BIOCOM detected in messages. Mainly that project Rise are not clones but use genetic material.

analog frigate
#

maybe rise is connected to the neonates?

solar nova
#

Probably

#

Do new logs confirm?

#

I haven't actually been reading them, just screenshotting and posting.

analog frigate
#

from the ones you posted, nothing conclusive

solar nova
#

Damn, the neonate idea is still where it was before, for now.

pearl wave
subtle verge
# analog frigate shafe: stay there, ok? creature: i am the ?one ?dizzener??, no, i am the ?finde...

Schaeffer:
St--stay there, okay?

MIMIC:
Are you a prisoner? No, I am not confined or restrained, I am (in the prime? am the product?) of my liberty.
Yes, we are not so different you and I.

Schaeffer:
Where did you come from? Did the Warden send you?

MIMIC:
WARDEN, yes, hello my friend. I am very (unintelligible)--

Schaeffer:
Fuck the Warden! Keep away from me! Back off!

MIMIC:
You gathered the items. It is my birthday. Born 27,354 seconds ago.

Schaeffer:
Huh? WHAT-- born?

MIMIC:
To start to exist. I hope that will (unintelligible) our work in how to (catalogue?) true, (falsk? [Swedish for "dishonest, false"]), future self, shill (shall?) reboot.

Schaeffer:
What does that mean? You're not making any sense.

MIMIC:
You met conversion, a (vanguard? avenger? [Uh-ven-grrl is what I hear.]) Do not all your mind, friend?

Schaeffer:
You get away from me! Back off-- I MEAN IT!

MIMIC:
You for mass sea of when a (unintelligible) as one to the higher (more? form?) and friend, friend for we are... >growling noises<

eternal talon
#

besides, i was the first person to even get the code for the terminal

#

YW

analog frigate
#

as in shafe's mind will change

eternal talon
#

this level is nothing but error alarms

#

in secondary

#

STILL error alarms

subtle verge
pearl wave
#

password for it changes with seed it seems

#

for us it was either rude or dude

unborn steppe
#

I'm also thinking of the audio logs in BX. So Schaff put himself in HS as a last resort like Dauda knowing he "wouldn't come out the same". That means the pods are already programmed to wipe minds. I thought that maybe some humans were left after the outbreak sending prisoners back down. There's a good chance the world is dead and biocom is just doing things Glados style

solar nova
analog frigate
solar nova
#

If you have a good HEL gun player, they can solo waves.

analog frigate
#

since he has to stay guard constantly

#

almost constantly

subtle verge
#

Just for clarification.

analog frigate
#

which KDS abused

native flower
#

looks like schaff merced that mutant finally

analog frigate
unborn steppe
native flower
#

couldnt tell over our own gunshots

analog frigate
subtle verge
#

It's not specified how long it takes, unfortunately.

analog frigate
#

we still don't really have a time frame of when things occur while we are roaming around

hardy ferry
#

Specimen 22 from the end of DX

analog frigate
#

although no more than a century has passed for sure

#

maybe 50 years for a tighter frame but not much to back it up

native flower
#

is spec 22 the mimic or just some random guy

analog frigate
#

appears to be random

#

the 5 day old mimic doesn't seem to be anything like that

#

also it invalidates our previous theory of it coming out of the bodies gustavo wanted burned

#

or at least is a big argument against it

subtle verge
#

Well, I don't think the pile that Gustavo wanted burned was in Garganta, it was a small village in the affected area, right?

#

Or town or whatever.

#

It's not specified.

analog frigate
#

near the chicxulub surface outpost of garganta supposedly

subtle verge
#

Hmm...

raven bay
analog frigate
#

couldn't have been inside

subtle verge
#

I'm more than positive there were multiple body burnings.

analog frigate
raven bay
#

ah yes my bad

#

remember now

subtle verge
#

"White skin, like it was covered in ash, almost human."

analog frigate
subtle verge
analog frigate
#

also probably were workers disposed of

#

so the chance of them mutating is very likely due to their constant exposure to whatever causes sleepers

terse spoke
#

i think is the booster that let tto mutating

eternal talon
#

we just finished cx with secondary

#

we didn't see any strange creature

#

we saw the new floater in bx, but nothing new in cx

analog frigate
#

possibly a picture of the new floater?

#

or at least a description

eternal talon
#

yes we have!

#

will send it along with everything else once we do DX

analog frigate
#

sounds good

eternal talon
#

got a good look while it was machinegunning me to half health

#

it's like a hybrid

#

it fires allotta shots lotsa fast

terse spoke
#

i heard that you can kill it

eternal talon
#

also 1 sniper shot

#

but you can only damage it's mouth while it's charging

#

it'll glow red slightly in it's mouth

#

that's the only time you can deal damage

terse spoke
#

lol, we just run around

eternal talon
#

we camped the stairs

#

i put down a fuckton of foam

#

and we only shot fliers

#

but yeah,

#

we didn't see any new creature in CX at all.

#

and we 100%ed it

shut mountain
#

HackettVibe what part of the lore is the most important to you all this extension

terse spoke
#

the audio log

analog frigate
#

and the lack of shirtless hackett

dreamy hornet
#

all of it haha

serene fractal
#

It's really tinny but some of the things are easier to hear now. I also truncated the silences so it's faster to analyze

shut mountain
eternal talon
analog frigate
serene fractal
#

I tried to remove the background nose as well so that def helped

#

The reverb is still a little high though

analog frigate
#

it first says: i'm not prisoner, no, i am not confined or ???, i am in control of my liberty

serene fractal
#

"you gathered the items"

analog frigate
#

what items could it refer to?

terse spoke
#

boosters?

serene fractal
#

I am not confined or restrained

analog frigate
#

there hasn't been any mention of schaeffer collecting anything

serene fractal
#

Warden, yes, hello my friend, I am very gone

eternal talon
#

Exterm is taking a small break, and we will get right into DX collecting all of the logs

#

o7

serene fractal
#

Lost hardware (unintelligible) in out, and or, true false

analog frigate
#

it's partially digital

#

like a cyborg

serene fractal
#

I think it said "should we reboot"

analog frigate
#

its voice sounds like it and the fact that it can keep track of time in precise seconds

pearl wave
#

corrupted machine?

analog frigate
#

it is mainly humanoid though

pearl wave
#

well corrupted the chip one of the text logs speaks about

#

that people get implanted

analog frigate
#

could be a specimen with a corrupted chip yeah

serene fractal
#

I can't quite make it what's being said before "version"

#

Emidican?

analog frigate
#

at what time is that?

serene fractal
#

1:21

analog frigate
#

you ??? can

subtle verge
#

It sounds like conversion to me

analog frigate
#

between two people or something similar

subtle verge
#

The phonetics work out that way: you con-ver-shun

analog frigate
#

ooh

serene fractal
#

1:28 (unintelligible) other (author?) mind

subtle verge
#

MIMIC:
You met conversion, a (vanguard? avenger? [Uh-ven-grrl is what I hear.]) Do not all your mind, friend?

#

That's what I stated in my initial transcript.

analog frigate
#

sounds pretty much like what it says

serene fractal
#

Should I put this truncated version somewhere where it won't be lost in messages?

analog frigate
#

better to

subtle verge
#

Might be the best option, yeah. I'll download it as well to have a spare copy.

serene fractal
#

I can drop it in gtfo media as well

analog frigate
#

yeah that would be good

subtle verge
#

I'm curious as to why it starts freaking out at the end there. You can tell about 60% of the way through, it starts to elevate it's speech to be more guttural.

#

Or primitive, I suppose.

serene fractal
#

Maybe it did reboot? whatever that means

subtle verge
#

Hmm. That would be interesting, because we know at a base level it's near human, per his description from previous logs.

analog frigate
#

that would explain its sudden change to guttural screaming which then quickly disappeared without anything else happening

#

it didn't even sound like it made a step during that period

subtle verge
#

It would make sense, though. "It is my birthday. Born 27,354 seconds ago." --> 7.6 hours.

analog frigate
#

but then why would it consider its birthday to be after 7.6 hours?

#

or maybe because it's the same day?

subtle verge
#

Let's say it does go through a reboot process: it's plausible that whatever this creature is has a baseline of what it remembers, but somewhere along the way it got damaged and it resets itself to its last "backup" which, in this scenario, would have been its birthday.

#

So every.. 7.5-8 hours, it resets itself back to that last backup.

#

But that's baseless, just a thought.

analog frigate
#

that would make sense though

#

normal software has an internal clock from which it does a check for file integrity and such after a certain period of time

#

this could be in a 7.5/8 hour period after which it detects corruption and reverts to the last saved version

serene fractal
#

I just think it's interesting that after the reboot he just goes "friend 🤗 "

analog frigate
#

also coincides with its mention of "version"

serene fractal
#

Which level is this log from again?

analog frigate
#

CX

eternal talon
#

wait what?

#

we did all of cd

#

cx

#

where was this log?

#

we looked in EVERY terminal

#

we were there for almost 2 hours

analog frigate
#

the person who sent it said that it's from CX

eternal talon
#

it's not..

#

we cleared that map top to bottom in a grid pattern

#

i have hundreds of pictures of logs, and that isn't one of them

#

and i've posted the name of every audio log i've found in here

analog frigate
#

@unborn steppe said it's from there

eternal talon
#

what does the log say exactly?

#

some sort of man-machine hybrid?

analog frigate
#

it's in a terminal in 184

eternal talon
#

that is not in CX at all

#

we are in the lobby screen going to head into DX,

#

i don't memorize zone names

#

what was in the log

#

because that soulds like NOTHING we've found in that level

analog frigate
#

the creature talking to schaeffer

eternal talon
#

can i get a transcript?

#

there are several instances of that

analog frigate
#

there are 3 if you scroll up

eternal talon
#

whatever about being born 7.6 hours ago is NOT in CX

serene fractal
#

what

serene fractal
eternal talon
#

yes, that log is indeed in CX. we found that one also

serene fractal
#

Well yeah that's where the 7.6 hours comes from

eternal talon
#

wait, it keeps going?

analog frigate
#

the audio log has variations like a lot of other logs

eternal talon
#

ours shut off mid-transmission

subtle verge
#

Yeah, it's 20-30 seconds of silence.

eternal talon
#

the lights and power in the level went out

subtle verge
#

Then it kicks off to be the creepiest shit yet.

eternal talon
#

no, no, like, it ENDED

#

the log shut off sound

#

ended

subtle verge
#

Bad luck.

eternal talon
#

the lights went out and we had another error alarm

analog frigate
#

that was probably unlucky timing

subtle verge
#

Haven't played any of the new stuff yet. Work sucks.

eternal talon
#

the only thing we heard was "stay there!", silence, then the power cut.

subtle verge
#

Finish that log out, man. It's worth every penny.

#

Fucking. Gnarly.

analog frigate
ember bluff
#

that was power cut from someone initiating the next cut

#

it still goes

eternal talon
subtle verge
ember bluff
#

no logs so far have actually cut power themselves in BX/CX for us

eternal talon
#

we are gathering all lore from every level

#

we have spent almost 2 hours on each level combing,

#

we spent 1 1/2 hours on cx alone

ember bluff
#

team members talk over it a bit

eternal talon
#

that is ALOT of jumbled audio

ember bluff
#

that is CX

#

in the ditch

#

it is jumbled, but a male voice has multiple lines

#

one is like "what is a rundown?"

#

and something about memories

eternal talon
#

your teammates talking constantly certainly doesn't help

#

does the log ID match with any we had found?

analog frigate
eternal talon
#

i posted all the numbers in chat

ember bluff
#

yeah sorry, I can't control that with randoms

solar nova
#

Deafen

ember bluff
#

it seems to likely be some of the player log clips

solar nova
#

ez

ember bluff
#

lemme find number

eternal talon
analog frigate
#

ok it is KSOs talking

eternal talon
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CX is filled with ditches

serene fractal
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I gotta get back to work now but if there's a cleaner version of the log and nobody else has done it I can try and clean it up later

analog frigate
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"i don't have clearance"

ember bluff
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ditch near extraction

analog frigate
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"we don't have our memories"

eternal talon
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we didn't find jack shit in the giant extraction room

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though it doesn't help that there were no lights

analog frigate
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prisoners talking

ember bluff
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"they don't have any memories"

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no we

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not*

analog frigate
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ah

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yeah true

ember bluff
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Log file number is 5R3-8M4-HCX

analog frigate
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then it's either scientists talking about legion or prisoners talking in their memoirs/hearsay stuff

ember bluff
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I wish I had recorded the terminal number

analog frigate
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terminal number is commonly random

ember bluff
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well, there is the log file number

analog frigate
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logs appear on a terminal in the same location, though it can have a different ID (the terminal that is)

ember bluff
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they don't have any memories, that's the problem

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refers to KSO's i assume

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the referencing "rundown" is like

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idek

analog frigate
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maybe then garbled hearsay data

ember bluff
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feels fourth wall breaking

analog frigate
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not necessarily

ember bluff
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there is definitely a more clear male voice with multiple lines though

analog frigate
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rundown could be some in-game term

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just not *our*

ember bluff
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i think that is connected to schaff's annoying mimic pal

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or is literally the same thing

analog frigate
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could be

ember bluff
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it did repeat his own lines back to him in one log

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makes sense it would be interested in memories

analog frigate
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maybe that's why the speech is garbled, it tried to get information from a corrupted file

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and only got certain prominent lines

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after that, nothing makes sense as shafe said

ember bluff
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if I can get another run I will try to isolate all these as audio by muting discord lol

analog frigate
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that would be good

ember bluff
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I don't know if any of those were lines provided by players

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or just garbling

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I didn't hear my own line at least, but hard to hear anything coherent in it

analog frigate
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the quality of the audio is too good

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but they could've cherry picked player lines

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and went with that

ember bluff
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i imagined they would be cherry picking regardless

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well...time to try find another group since my friends are all busy

pearl wave
raven bay
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don't know if it's lore related, but someone know why they use BX, CX, DX notaiton for this expeditions ?

pearl wave
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cause3 they aint directly relarted to the main missions? / play in the past/future?

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thouigh i understand less about the lore now then before extension xD

raven bay
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xD

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in previous rundown, expedition on same tier are chronological ?

pearl wave
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they atleast had some relation?

eternal talon
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schaeffer voice directly after uplink in DX

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ARE YOU HUMAN?

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WE AREN'T SO DIFFERENT, YOU AND I

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oh

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this is that log you guys already posted

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damn schaeffer is angry

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"die you fucking mutant"

eternal talon
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mutant?

solar nova
eternal talon
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"i'm not taking orders anymore, i'm giving them"

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schaeffer is badass

pearl wave
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schaefer assismilated the mimic?

analog frigate
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unknown

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it's possible

pearl wave
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do we have any of the "miscellaneous" hsu / warden calculation log screenshots?

analog frigate
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but we don't hear any signs of quarrel afterwards

subtle verge
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Side note: I really want to know who voiced the Mimic. False chords are hard to maintain for that long, especially when you try to growl and scream the way it did.

analog frigate
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actually that would be interesting to know

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of course, there would be editing to make it better, but that's still very impressive

shut mountain
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My game theory is that the mimic is voiced by Kellen Goff

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But im pretty sure we could just ask Simon LMAO

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But listen to his voice as fiddlesticks from league

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Kinda insane

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Even without the filters