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Ok damn. Good find Amanes.
You can see me breaking down after I found that maybe it wasn't for earth or at least maybe it had interesting info
Gotta say though, itll be kinda funny if the violent clusterfuck that is Alpha Planet is located in a place with such a peaceful sounding name
Cause the two sea coordinates weren't that interesting
How far is that place from Earth?
I mean gas at high temperature being ejected at 600 km/s doesn't sound that peaceful
Around 3800 ly at worst
we can check for any star systems with known exoplanets there
The nebula is the product of only One supernova
and the star that resulted from it is a white dwarf, any planet would likely go undetected because of the gasses
The central star, a white dwarf, was identified in 2009, using the upgraded Wide Field Camera 3 on board the Hubble Space Telescope. The star has a current mass of around 0.64 solar masses. It is surrounded by a dense equatorial disc composed of gas and dust. This dense disc is postulated to have caused the star's outflows to form a bipolar structure similar to an hourglass. This bipolar structure shows features such as ionization walls, knots and sharp edges to the lobes.
hmm true
We only detected the white dwarf in 2009, which makes detecting a planet even more unlikely
it doesn't seem unlikely that they would pick such a place for the location
the issue is that it doesn't have any special qualities
just a random nebula
Maybe the log that is to release later today will give us some direction
It is known as one of the brightest Nebulas and also, its explosion dates from after the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event which supposedly brought the artifacts in the Chixculub crater
holy shit man that’s such a good idea
not necessarily, like I have speculated before, it is very possible that the meteor did not come from destination alpha.
I don’t think we can assume this to be true unless we get actual numbers.
did anyone else get an email from santonian
email?
yep
From Steven Boyle?
oh i did
Where?
I think its from the ambassador email list
nice. more lore
ye
schaeffer is born in two days
Holy Vernon Miles seems angry af
ye
Bro he from missouri
normal level for the higher ups in smc and kds
Who’s gonna check the link at the bottom 👀
Address it mentions
i'll go ahead
and just send it here
k
So hes born at the day we get the R6 extension. Maybe a hint Schaeffer will return in the new levels
does schaeffer spawn w/ clothing or does he begin life.... shirtless?
.... sorry.
i believe i didn't make mistakes
you do
it's not a non-existent page
I mean we can check from each other now lmao
the page's contents are 404
whats the hotkey to bring up source code
click them little arrows too
o nvm thought y'all were looking at the email
reading is a wonderful thing and i should do it lmao
Maybe something will appear when R6ext is out?
Yeah theres definitely something there
agreed
Disagree
well the only think to do now is wait
something will arrive later since it doesn't even appear to have the /intranet and then /services directories
will the credit go to f bishop?
its possible that they will update the address to have contents
we just have to wait for extension
I can go to the address in St. Louis on April 12th to see if anything is there
Watch Schaeffer get born
lmao
haha
Im pretty sure they picked an abandoned place to avoid sending ppl to random houses ^^
Well it’s right next to a graffiti wall
was it sent out early?
It's a warehouse
inb4 people go to the crater
Crater time
in before people go the Butterfly Nebula 
and find out that ||the complex is actually real||
Brb going to red alpha
GTFO 2022 promotional material: garganta constructed
its where you're eventually having the dev studio right?
we're developing IRL
Holy shit guys they made the complex into a real thing can u believe it
why do you think it takes us so long
actually yeah, that's what has been happening during the "delays"
All files for Garganta are now classified as B tier clearance and above. I’m not sure what clearance your PA has, but if they are C tier and you are connected to the server with their log in credentials – you’ll get a “server not found” response.
?
yeah exactly
we can't do anything yet
until we get access
Mad props for making those reactors @frail pollen I know the prisoners always do a little trolling when trying to shut them down
Must take a long time to build irl
how big is it gonna be?
U think the devs have to go through a class 4 s alarm while building it
Nah I bet they just put all the doors behind them under emergency lockdown
yea I was gonna say you would probably have to print multiple pieces for it to be anything but small
ye
Thanks! Here's a sneak peak at what we had to deal with in the Crater
Hello! New here, checking the email as everyone seems to do here, would need some more info from y'all...
That Santonian Industries website, is it brand new with that email https://santonianindustries.com/ ?
Homepage of SANTONIAN Industries, strategic investors group.
Or was it part of a plot before?
Oh wow! That’s intense!
i think there are two possibilities with the link: we somehow get access to it through unknown methods or we actually have to use an in-game terminal since it would already have clearance
the website itself has been around for a long time
but the email is new
i think after people beat a level
including the directory we can't access
imagine if the extension was just r7
Pranked
3 level r7
lol
shit
I will then assume the archives 1 through 6 + corrupted have all been figured out on the website terminal. 👍
Thanks!
Mail chimp lol.
were in 2065 or something
he means lore wise. in-game
lore wise 😐
ah
we still dont know
well he's in his 40s or 50s by this point
he could be over 200
So i’m older than schaeffer 😏
true
well that's age, not biological age, but that would make sense
and we know most likely Davies had a hand in recruitment
as the mail says
he is not a good candidate
still, we can't be over 40 years past the last mail
Hi, i just got an email of a candidate record sheet and some other stuf
all ambassadors have
how come?
it's about schaeffer
Whatcha got so far?
the facility wouldn't be able to function after being inoperative for that long
Can someone send me the full text of the email in the following format?
```
[email]
```
Here or DMs works.
sec
i got it and im not an ambassador
becus i havent linked my discord yet
what?
i've done the email thing just not linked my discord
ye
it's two emails about schaeffer and then his candidate sheet
at the bottom of which is a link we don't have access to
Is the document an attachment on the email?
Massive preesh, btw
the image is an attachment
Heres a better pic
thats a full pic
well we don't know if Gargantua is completely destroyed or not. I would agree though I doubt it is anymore than 40 years from the last dated log (2058 I think).
what i'm wondering is why is there so much space after the image?
Also, what is the subject line (if anything) of the actual email?
hol up
Re: Re: New employee CRS files
Oooo what is this I see
Its “Re: Re: New employee CRS files”
this
Oh, so it's the actual subject in the log. Noted.
does this
that's normal
My best guess so far? To give the actual impression of a spam/misdirected email and not give out the email subscription signature from Mailchimp at a glance
it's 10c stuff, not related to the rest
oh okay
I wouldnt say “spam”, id say more of the feeling of a missent, “leaked” document
Yeah
Hey has anyone clicked on the image of the website
Clicking on it beings up a terminal
true
long time ago
the santonian one or the one in the email
On the website
he means the santonian terminal
Click on the logo sitting on the website.
it has been around for a long time
Oh
can someone send the link to the website?
Homepage of SANTONIAN Industries, strategic investors group.
Has anyone figured out the corrupted logs?
yes
Ahh okay. Sorry lol.
no problem
we originally started getting them on a timer before R6 dropped
(sidenote: checking the pins, and as a programmer I really laughed seeing the use of the brainfuck programming language in 2021)
what link????
i see two ways of the link being used:
we somehow get the access level and can open it through our browsers and stuff
or we use it in an in-game terminal since it would already have B class access
there is no link in this email
i got a 404
so this gives us nothing
yet
personnel below class B access see 404
Terminals don't have access levels per se, logs were just dispersed there as per the Lockdown procedure of 10/2053
we aren't even personnel, we are slaves
Interesting. Signed by Davies, too.
true, but could be a way to open the link with clearance
Wondering if the hash part of the URL could apply to something else, right now
hash=9j3G!j-M!ozjMuFCqp.JZdtYch4sQNtqk6mX_bR64eZCvVvtgU8HZ4@C2fNJm!bpyKQd3iwgwnmTw6dqgXER!ntQUYDhquvGXPe
not really
looks like part of a url
Has anyone tried SQL injection, yet?
no
nope
someone try that
i don't know what that even is
but i don't think we should do it
Has this been a tactic previously used? 😮
Tbf, no.
I FOUND SOMETHING
Not sure if they want us to actually hack the website.
I agree that we shouldn't rely on doing this
Not at my PC, but what if you replaced the hash= with a # ? Hashes in URL point to specific spots on a page.
yes
404
What is it Luxy
Darn.
i dont think the website is actually setup properly
this email doesn't say anything new at all
only confirms that schaeffer is a bit of a nutcase, which we already knew
nothing, just an error, disregard
It confirms he was like this before it went to shit though
it gives us access to new possible locations, also new personnel is listed
Which is new
i come back to the chat and your treating it like you just found the ark of the covenant
lol
I do find it interesting that felons are allowed C-level clearance. I'm surprised they're even hired there at all. Though, I guess manual labor tends to have that class of people versus white collar.
and it's just restating stuff we already have known for over a year
maybe so, but it is nice to know specifics, and get some immersive stuff.
the HSU wipes memories, not personality.
more people equals more work done
also the laws don't really matter down there when people noncompliant get shot and burned in a corpse pile
i think the hash= message is some kind of code, no clue what though
Yes but he coulda lost it when everything went down
that's not how that works...
we still have our personalities
hackett didn't loose his accent
👀
War changes people
there is no works with the HSUs since we know almost nothing about how they work
this isn't fallout, or war.
We can assume something like October 2053 could have affected people
how do you enjoy the chatter in the lore channel calle?
It's the best chatter!
well everyone was freaking out when shit hit the fan, but everyone isn't KSOs
2 out of 4 prisioners are soldier that participated in a war crimes, woods killed a bunch of people and hackett its more of a psyco
and they all act the same.
because memories
because they all fucking nuts, woods its a war criminal, hacket its a fucking serial killer that went into the program on purpose, bishop blackmailed a CEO, and dauda was fucking around with the sleepers
THEY DONT HAVE THOSE MEMORIES
bishop might probably be the only good guy there tbh lmao
THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE TODDLERS
IT DOESNT EFFECT THEM SINCE TO THEM IT DIDNT HAPPEN
that's unknown if they do
they could retain something
they could be completely blank slates
then look at bishop in the Rebecca stokes log
or how Schaeffer only went back to """normal""" after breaking loose
there's voice lines in the game of them reacting to their own memories being exposed in their voice logs, they don't retain those memories..
btw the /intranet/services/export/go directory doesn't have any files attributed to it
as far as i know they dont loose their memory when they get back up, when finishing missions, there was suppose to be a reaction from the audio logs during r5a2 but apparently it bugged so we couldnt hear them
sad times 
wdym "get back up"
those were some good reactions too
you mean returning to the surface between missions? 100% yes they do.
they are in HSUs
both the start, and the end of the mission
Woods was doing religious self mutilation, even as a KSO
source.
how do we know, the screen usually just fades, we could just die and left the boddies there and get disconnected by the cortex interface, we dont really climb the hsu's
he probably pull them from chase wiki
everything there its neatly organize
really pog
how do we know we don't magically teleport into hsu's when we drop at the start of every expedition?
are we faeries phasing through walls thousands of meters up to drop again?
how do we know a robot or smth doesnt shove us back into one?
the datacenter robots?
not even up for debate
idk, was just a proposition
im in this lore thing pretty late
because we drop down the same hole, every time, for the past 2 bloody years
Ms. Klein,
I recommend only using Tau gen until we have fully investigated the
issue with Sigma gen. The Pretoria lab is running some tests on our
GOs and our remaining Sigmas to isolate the behaviors you mentioned.
A few questions:
1. Can you send photos of the self-harm you indicated with 0-2056?
We need to confirm if the scarring is indiscriminate or
definitely religious. Our records show this operative has
exhibited similar behavior before, despite multiple resets.
2. The head banging behavior is known in toddlers, but we did not
see that behavior in any of the Genesis Operatives. Does it start
immediately after resuscitation, or after some period of time? I
would like video evidence for the records and a more detailed
report please.
3. Can you send me a list of the operatives you marked as faulty and
sent to recycling? We track both organ and tissue stocks here so
we can trace the history should we need it.```
nah just read chases wiki, you'll catch up, i mostly guide myself from inside the game
Mmmm
Woods ID in the legion program is 2056
link?
Behavorial anomalies log.
pins
kk
well that's inconsistant with the other logs we've seen like the red alpha log
its not the same hole, but multiple
so that doesn't make any sense
do you agree we are DROPPING DOWN? every time?
how do you think we get back up?
have you played r4d2?
Are you perhaps mixing Woods w/ Bishop?
theres multiple hsu bodies
every level since day 1 has us begin, and end in an hsu
even if we only see the start.
Note that this is anormal behaviour, and Schaeffer going rogue seems definitely anormal
schaeffer got forgotten because everyone in his squad bloody well died.
that does make sense, since we wake up in the exact same surprised fashion every single time
they could easily let the bodies die and just pick and implant their current memories into the next hsu
THATS NOT HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS
????
this isn't the year 4,000
if memories had been retained, the squad wouldnt react the same way every time, theyd get used to it
Let's chill a bit shall we 
hes the one that needs to chill kekw
what lore does to a mf
We've pretty much confirmed that it's not cloning or memory swapping.
The resurfacing behavioral patterns has been a recurring theme in a lot of logs. They don't retain memories, but they exhibit behaviors in line with their "pre-Legion" personalities that they themselves aren't aware of. Usually the program sticks them in an HSU for an extended period to get rid of it and start over.
THANK YOU
ah, gotcha
We call it 'Chad Theory' as a running joke.
Never said you needed to 
^^
would you care and explained it to me, instead of been like him and overreacting
it takes up to almost a year for the initial HSU proccess to be complete
because memories kept resurfacing
But i'd rather not call the patrol
that is why it takes foreeever to turn someone into a KSO
whats a KSO?
That's why Dauda has the dreams
Kovac Security Operative
kovac security operator?
the people we play as
yes
people either hired into the position, or people from project legion
ah gotcha
all legion are KSOs but not all KSOs are legion
so its still a theory then?
It's just a running name to explain it all.
we are the warden's most VIP team
we just don't die
canonically,
we do every single expedition first try
and always come back
we are badass mofos in lore
oh nice

that would make sense
One could also imagine the game is the warden simulating the environment to then basically micro manage the prisoners into doing the mission after
Guys, does anyone receive this letter?
yes
all of us here
everyone did
Ambassadors did
not only apparently
Homeboy from got arrested from drunk driving kekw
what a chad
we don't know what it's for
thats lore right there
So, what's up with the link below?
404
all it does is confirm past inferred schaeffer lore, and gives us a link that we can't use yet.
for now
Don't forget about domestic battery and being born the day of the extension
we can't access it yet
and illegal possession of firearms
schaeffer in extension !!!!!!
Hopefuly im wrong in what im thinking
Interesting, so maybe later it will show us something?
I just noticed he was born on april 12th
maybe, probably. who knows
I can't wait until your review of R6.5 with the whole "Please shut up Schaeffer" 
TL;DR - The prisoners are preserved in the HSUs. Right before we drop into a mission, the startled deep breath is us "waking up" and our body, for a lack of a better term, is jumpstarting itself from stasis. When we do drop, we drop into the giant 2km hole mechanically, however we've pointed a few times that it's feasibly impossible to drop for so long at the speed we do, so we just imagine that we're maneuvering through certain pathways to reach whatever area we need to be in.
When we finish the mission, it's assumed that the pods come back, we climb back in, and we're taken back to the surface or wherever the HSUs are stored until the WRDN needs us again. Coupled with the plethora of logs that have zero reference to any sort of cloning technology, we can safely assume that cloning or memory swapping simply doesn't happen or exist.
@manic shuttle
i love schaeffer. schaeffer's great
#TeamSchaeffer
WHY DO YOU DO
It seems very unlikely that chad theory is false rn. There's no evidence of clones or memory swapping or anything of the sort.
"Congressional Requesters report" is the log that defines what "KSO" means, and it seems to refer to anyone kept in hydrostasis and managed by BIOCOM.
yes
what
DON'T SLEEP
That's when they lose your mind
THAT'S WHERE THEY LOSE YOUR MIND
ic ic
The only thing that really gets me about this email is that it reveals that they chose Scaheffer based on his compatibility with the Legion program, but it also states that he's "recalcitrant, defiant, and rebellious" which is the exact opposite of what they want.
One could assume that the name Project Legion might be a reference to some form of cloning, however there has been zero reference or acknowledgement that such a thing exists.
but what about the neuro link
it's between the warden or biocom and KSOs
This seems to just be the HUD.
kind of like a canonical explanation to our control over the team?
damn no wifi controling prisioners
think the neural link in halo, every UNSC unit has them, not only spartans
Yeah, the Neural Link is just a fancy way of saying: "Hey, KSO, go do this," in the HUD on their mask.
it's just for data, info, tactics, orders, esc
gotcha
As we know that KSOs simply follow orders without question due to whatever occurs in the HSUs.
I dunno about that, it's unclear why he was selected but it doesn't seem like it's Legion related.
Thankfully in r6 they increase the neural link budget and actually have objective progression !
wait wait wait
Davies and Clinton seem to be the reason why he was let in
it says C tier or below
could mean C B or A levels
so it could be his candidacy for legion
No
I mean there's a pretty blatant censored section that is most likely Legion-related
Security clearance, not in-game level tiering.
This is a hiring application for a normal job, though. All of the uncensored references are for his mining supervisor role.
For example Doctors are C
I'd assume that they allowed him in due to the second line of psychiatric results. Obstinate meaning that when he's made up his mind, he's going to do that specific thing.
the anomaly is that it's an overridden re-review to forcibly hire him
yeah
This seems like a stretch to me.
thats what one guy in the convo is saying, that why re-review the application if the guy was denied already
He old
note that HSU stops aging
So, feasibly speaking, if he were to become a KSO, he'd have the perfect trait to do what his "mind," AKA the Neural Link, told him to do.
28 then
or 29 depending on how fast they can intergrate him into legion
also where does it say it stops aging all together?
while inside maybe, but they wouldn't keep him in an hsu forever
HSUs put the entire body into stasis, i.e. all function of the body just stops.
Down to the cellular level.
while in stasis yes
The Fountain of Still life Log
but they wouldn't hire him to keep him in stasis 24/7/365
They hired him as a pit boss
he would still age
he became a KSO after the 2053 incident
just slightly slower
at an unknown date
so he'd still probably be in his late 40s
This application is also labeled as 2050, he'd be 28 by this time.
Or rather, it was exported in 2050.
Typo, yes.
I'm allowed a typo every once in a while without the need for jumping down my throat. Lmao.
yeah
was just confused
Did anyone type in the link from this morning's email? Im trying to do it with a friend and something isnt working in it.
It leads to a 404.
damn
We don't have the access clearance to view it.
...
ohhhh, gotcha. we thought we were typing it wrong.
we could
to get the clearance
im gonna do it right now
careful you might get a writing job with 10C
gotta love how that log pretty much confirms aliens in a sentence
why so?
@dull crest @frail pollen do you do your hiring out of ambassador@10chambers.com?
I didn't get an email. 😦
it may be in your spam
Now the flying potatoes makes sense in a game for me
mine was too
allens, or aliens?
Wouldn't the Encrypted Coordinates log be more of a case for aliens?
im gonna read the wiki
balls
oh well those you can see in-game
Haha, no
you are a go
that was a joke lol
Forge > Johnson
I miss johnson
what is?
We now know that B035 isn't Steven Boyle.
i miss forge
he got a promotion?
and we know about Vernon Miles
They were both good characters. both died saving super soldiers
that's not that the IDs are
B035 should be Andrew Clinton
Yeppers.
Fixed, was reading the bottom email.
you have green light to engage the "john doe" application
won't do anything
He does a little trolling lmao
party pooper
you havent tried :D
i have
o
@solar nova Question since I didn't know you were the one maintaining the Notion since Chase's busy.
What evidence is there for both of the Stokes to be Husband and Wife? From what I read I imagined they were brother and sister
emails do take time, you know.
i had to
It's possible, but the way they talked to each other it gave me a way different vibe.
It's also a bit unlikely for brother and sister to have similar career paths, but marrying someone you meet through work is a lot more probable.
Also, Gustavo Peres is tagged in a Log that implicates another Gustavo, since I don't believe they sent a Politician on the EF 01 Expedition
"Howie" and all.
It's the closest match.
I'll consider taking it off, though.
I can see the argument.
Hopefully we'll know in ext if it was a cat or a dog person
Way too early, thats something for R9 
he better be a dog person or else im uninstalling
^the devs on the way to the coords in the atlantic
There is a Peterson entry, which I think is much less speculative to just leave there w/out Gustavo until we can verify who that person is.
There's also a "Ben" that's unaccounted for.
devs on the way to the butterfly nebula 3000 lightyears away
nah that's this
imho that is one of the coolest finds in the lore channel so far
though imo given the fact that the sky is completely empty, i doubt it's in the heart of a nebula
The EF-01 expedition logs now have four unspecific researchers in the personnel database, until we can get their full names.
i think the Atlantic coords are alot more likely
well d1's sky is covered in clouds so
The only problem with this idea is that Gustavo by itself is an incredibly specific last name, even today it's an incredibly uncommon last name. I don't think 10C would blindside us with something like this, but the possibility does remain open.
It is a first name, not a last name,
i have this one saved
You're right, bruh moment.
Happens to the best 😅
Even so, my point still stands clearing the middle of the statement.
It's a unique name in the current lore.
c1 and d1
where these clouds at?
not in the sky
ah ok
also that moon is WAAAY too bright
For the Notion specifically, at least, I want to try to minimize speculation. This is also why the Kovac shipment log (w/ a bunch of neonate HSUs) isn't tagged with "Rise Project."
Isn't Husband/Wife speculation? 
i mean like, that is THE biggest reason imo why it can't be in a nebula
or any kind of major star system
we also don't even know if planet alpha is in the butterfly nebula
the entire sky is completely dead
Yeah, that's fair. Having confirmed bits is definitely important.
so rn i'm about 80/20 in favor of the atlantic
I also don't think the Stokes are partners, there's no real indication of that form of affection in their communication.
Possibly, but I don't think it rises to the same level. It's very heavily implied.
It appears to me more sibling love than partner level.
Alabama?
But that's looking at it at face value.
The complete different readings we have would tell me otherwise but fair
I had the same view as you Punk ye
It's also possible that it's kept that way since it's going through a work email, though, right?
Would want to keep the professionalism up and the interpersonal stuff away from any prying eyes of higher ups.
But we know that Rebecca is at Garganta, while the other is still in Texas or something. I don't quite remember.
no? doctor stokes' lab is c1
Rebecca is also talking about writing to Howard, though, so it seems the roles switch at some point.
The logs are there, but I dunno about that.
Perhaps not a moon, but a white dwarf star?
Most of the evidence we have currently suggest the floodways are largely occupied by Kovac.
@analog frigate and me had a chat about a month ago about the stars on destination
we never really had a good look at the "moon"
but it could be
it can't
gamma radiation would kill you if it was that big in the sky
big as in close
why is it so luminous for a hunk of rock?
also it would be much much brighter
the moon also is
pretty bright but this is more
the moon irl doesn't have god rays and make night look like afternoon
it's more reflective
i'm not sure what it can be, but no way for it to be another star
that's no moon
Couldn't this be a visual artifact of the star shining through the atmosphere? Similar to our own sun.
I don't really see why it having radiation would prevent it from being a star if the planet has a sufficient magnetosphere
yes, but our atmosphere is nowhere near that thick
and it doesn't appear that thick during b1 during the day
brightness is too low
about the same as moonlight
if it's a star, it would already be much more luminous
i don't know where your living, that is like 300% maybe 400% brighter than the moon
and for it to appear that big in the sky, it would be like daytime
To be fair, our moon isn't actually all that bright. It's one of the least reflective objects in our solar system. It's only so bright because everything around us is so dark and blocks intervening light.
that does make sense when taking into account the coords for the nebula we got
but still, even with a proper magnetosphere, it would be chaos
because this is not that dark, at all. where on earth it gets to be pitch black, you can see here clear as daylight
Why would kovac wanna secure a sewer system
actually it really fits with the nebula we found
Why is it assumed that we had any intention of staying at Destination for prolonged periods? I still don't see how the radiation discredits the idea
"i wouldn't want to stay more than 5 hours without protection"
it doesn't just makes it very dangerous to stay there for long periods of time
No idea, but their vehicles are there and even the plant sample containers are Kovac manufactured.
Seems like it was used for transport, and possibly other purposes. We have no idea what the plants in the grow beds are even for.
also there isn't any harmful radiation since durant never mentioned anything
oxygen?
i talked to a mechanic of 40 years the other day, the ventilation system in Garganta that we have seen is sooooo extremely unrealistic with all the vehicles we find down there
Have you considered that it might just be electric based?
ventilation shafts would need to be at least 6ft across and huge pumps would be needed all the way to the surface
maybe, but i'm just saying
vetalation system is lacking
I'm just throwing a wrench at ya'. Lmao.
But was there anything specifically saying there isn't radiation? Lack of information should not be used as proof
"i wouldn't want to stay more than 5 hours without protection"
Yo, I'm having a hard time confirming the gamma ray thing?
also occam's razor
i doubt durant would keep out the fact that there is high quantities of radiation
it's not something undetectable
and he did mention the hazards on the planet
and he didn't specify what they were.
Considering that we have coordinates pointing to the butterfly nebula, at the center of which is a white dwarf, which is known to be a very hot star and have been on a planet that is very dry with a sky that appears to be lit by the same color wavelength of a white dwarf, it's a pretty solid theory
Well not solid, but not dismissible without consideration
I honestly think the chances of randomly ending up with the exact coordinates of a nebula are rly rly low
And yet we landed on one that is not only named, but relatively close?
i could point at the sky right now and point to the exact center point of an entire galaxy
nebulas don't even have any planets, do they?
Yeah but the chances of it being the exact coordinates that you can find online or just landing at some outer edge of some nebula is a difference
aren't they just giant clouds of gas?
also wouldn't these exact coordinates be in the middle of a star?
no idea but I would assume so
so you are thinking a planet being in THE CENTER OF A SUN would be more likely than just in the ocean somewhere?
that is what i have issue with
i don't see it as likely
well we dont know what the coordinates are for and I would assume its easier to give us coordinates of the nebula instead of a specific planet
GTFO doesn't give us straight answers, that's been the case since forever
the fact that we have the exact coordinates is quite convincing
how do you know the coordinates aren't wrong? has someone fact-checked them?
yea I looked. it has the correct declination and right ascension.
At any point, if any number were off even a little bit, the final result would be some form of gibberish.
yea that could be incorrect, but the fact that we got the exact coordinates makes it hard to ignore
That it's exact coordinates for an object in the sky is itself incredibly unlikely.
what's even special about this place?
well that's not a reason for anything
the seemingly random coordinates we got point exactly to that nebula
Does there have to be anything special about it? As far as I know this conversation has been solely about what some coordinates might point to and then the significance will be pieced together later
ray was SO SURE of the coords on day 1 though
outside of the coordinates specifically pointing there, no
he even posted his math
well the coordinates were correct
Amanes just figured out it might not be for earth
Yes, because the probability is intuitive to me.
I'm pretty new here so maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand why you're so adamant it couldn't be coordinates to a nebula?
the center of that nebula is a star
c1 isn't us boiling alive and our skin melting
A non-garbage result from some decoding process is genuinely extremely unlikely.
Especially when the decoding process is chaotic, as many of the steps are.
and i'm not saying it can't be
Who said C1 was directly at the coordinates?
i'm saying i don't think it's likely because of that reason
Ok but if you found the coordinates for a treasure chest, and the coords just pointed you to an island, would you only search that one point? Or the whole island?
The coordinates are presumably pointing to an object in the sky that you can Google, not the exact spot we go to in-game.
Not my best example but still
i didn't think my skills with base64 would be relavant, but it turned out to be the key to cracking the cypher
i just, i don't know what to think of it
It's also important to remember that... We don't know exactly what's going on at the center of the nebula. There's a whole bunch of hot gas being lit up by ultraviolet radiation there. That's where the fiction part of science fiction comes in
they say extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, is it that wrong that i just want a little more? if true, this is massive.
What was the context for the log we extracted these coordinates from btw? I haven't played since 6 was extended
Its totally fair, just wanted to point out the exact coords aren't that big a of a dealbreaker 👍
The quote is poorly formulated.
A successful series of decoding steps are, in-fact, extraordinary evidence.
Website only log, released a few days ago.
Oh cool. I'll have to comb through those to catch up
I'm still pretty new to the lore but it's been neat so far
i am still kind of in shock that translating it from base64 actually got anything useful at all
This is the log surrounding it
did that link in the ambassador email lead anywhere?
we can't access it
idk what the symbol on the end of the first line is, looks like an @ but I cant be sure
hokep
^
Hmm, yeah I guess the log itself doesn't give much context, does it lol. Could this be a part of the data that we sent back at the end of d1?
no, that was a genome database
realistically, probably to either the parasite or nam-v
why it was there?
who knows.
maybe durant's team was studying it before they went dark
only thing extra was something Amanes noticed:
ACCESS -BIOCOM -29$525GVTHR2%456FS
this access key was used by the Warden in another log already
Was that actually hidden for you in the email? @final sentinel
Was just sitting at the bottom normally for me
idk if it was because of gmail formatting but yeah it was camoflauged
ah I see
Interesting, about the access key. What was the context for the previous usage?
dakstar pulling the trolliest move and doxxing an employee at 10cc for lore reasons
The other one was this log:
https://www.notion.so/Power-Control-System-Alerts-2909f58bdedc4c3a8570f3d6ad3309a1
Basically Warden trying to get access to different generators
just because the decrypted cords found in the log point to the butterfly nebula does not mean that planet alpha is located there.
i have no idea what it's significance would be were it not the case
Rhetorical question: what's the significance of the coords being there if Destination isn't there? I'll have to think on that one.
well GTFO is telling a story, we haven't learned everything yet
Origin of the virus/parasite perhaps
The Mars mission didnt fail, they actually survived, send false info back and are exploring the Butterfly Nebula 
well i mean true, but r6 was already a good canyon-sized leap
How could you say something so brave, yet so controversial?
i'm thinking that the aliens have something to do with the creation of the nebula, maybe they blew up the star in an act of survival or something like that. then remnants of the explosion found its way to earth/ planet alpha.
what, like a dyson sphere?
also i'm pretty sure it can't be remnants from a star
since the crystals and stuff were on destination
no, dyson sphere's purpose is to capture the energy of a star. i'm saying that they just straight up blew it up.
what are they, the necrons?
im basically saying that the aliens might have had something to do with the creation of the nebula

WHAT IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN
Necrons confirmed, alright
@dull crest I can’t believe they give up this easy 😬
wdym give up?
do you know the research we have done!
16th century colonial era spanish/mayan medical doccuments,
gravitational forces of stars,
TIME DILATION,
triangulation, and a ton of other nonsense
maybe i should email svante...
I think he means the link
there is nothing left to research anyhow. wdym give up? is there more?
ik XD
Well, the link and we still need to look more into the ocean option
The last time 👀 was posted was under the depth map of the ocean right?
Make it 2
i'm assuming nuclear?
Thy flesh is weak
does anybody have any fire alarms?
my brain is too smooth for this
I litteraly found Nebula coordinates what do you guys meaaaaaaan I give up this easily

preferably old fire alarms
why is there a ton of empty white space at the end of the ambassador email?
since they have small quantities of radioactive isotopes
yeah that's what led me to CTRL + A
and finding Svante
I can’t find my way home from my own doorstep. I should shut up…
if you want us to find stuff, don't bury it at the bottom of the atlantic ocean
or in a Nebula Three Thousand light years away for that matter
i found the voice logs in the link quite creepy and i didnt bother reading the rest cause brain smooth
Hey that's not too far away... on a cosmic scale
I want to find stuff
your keys i presume
i think a rocket taking off in stockholm would be rather noticeable
It’s not a lake, it’s an ocean
necrons???
oh they sorted the directories differently on the santonian website
It used to be:
Achive006
CORRUPTED
ARCHIVE005
ARCHIVE004
ARCHIVE003
ARCHIVE002
ARCHIVE001
Now its:
ARCHIVE001
ARCHIVE002
ARCHIVE003
ARCHIVE004
ARCHIVE005
ARCHIVE006
CORRUPTED
This changes everything 
i thought it was a pond of ||pines||
You can’t swim in pines
Did you try?
yet
well i mean PINEapple juice,
Imagine all the stickiness
i don't even know what's going on anymore
it would not matter because it would literally take 3000+ years to get there traveling at the speed of light. if you used the fastest spacecraft ever, the parker solar probe, it would take 6,096,514 years to get to the nebula.
which is kinda a long time lmao
just makes you realize we are not really going anywhere without FTL travel
So which logs are the new ones on the site? I don't remember the names of the ones I read a while ago
Are they all in Corrupted or are there new ones in 6?
The email is why I checked in here actually, figured there'd be some talk about it
the last 5 logs in archive006 were the ones that were in the corrupted folder during R6
have been moved out for the new 2
Gotcha, thanks
wait so you guys could open the CRS-JSC-003 file?
I think thats just this image
Dont react with popcorn, or I'm gonna have to stare at this sheet for 1 hour 
what is your plan if nobody ever solves it?
I can design a reactor
as in a working one?
i'm pretty sure that's 100% illegal
uhhh yes it is
same difference
are you endorsing your playerbase to break federal law?
i'm pretty sure they'd be liable if someone actually does
nope
since they sell in the USA
btw does it a coordinate ?
Yes
not on earth..?
Coordinates of the Butterfly nebula in the Night sky
.
in the sky from earth yes
i am fairly certain they need a disclaimer to not actually do that
Gamma Enhanced CRS
won't help
the blackened out words don't actually exist
a part of the font is just black lines
there isn't actually anything
any special thing about this Butterfly nebula..?
White dwarf star at the center, relatively close to earth
outside of the coords pointing specifically there, not that much
Also, it's pretty 🙂
You can see the full document if you type the URL at the bottom...
It's indeed pretty
Do we?
We didn't manage to get on that url
if you have it we're interested over here
3000ly away, white dwarf, started existing around the same time that Chucxulub happened
kinda average and somewhat young
I've been typing out the url again myself incase there was a typo
Can I post it here ? I will not be banned for spoiler ^^
you won't
You won't
but we didn't find anything from the link
God damn it we did
huh
fucking damn
wdym by "the same time as Chicxulub"?
ok
it's ~65 million years old
"cha" is in fact "oha"
humm interesting
how'd you find the redacted text?
lmao
although this one isn't signed
on the url at bottom
wdym?
we just all typed incorrectly
wasn't that a 404
what's the full link?
no, the LINK
that image is the link
h.ttps://www.santonianindustries.com/intranet/services/export/db453x913/go/hash=9j3G!j-M!ozjMuFCqp.JZdtYoha4sQNtqk6mX_bR64eZCvVvtgU8HZ4@C2fNJm!bpyKQd3iwgwnmTw6dqgXER!ntQUYDhquvGXPe
you can't copy paste a png into the google search bar
I typed it in as a c not an h as well so it's probably good I hadn't finished typing it yet lol
I only laugh at myself
We can find Stellar coordinates but we can't copy correctly a link
And the way I look, I laugh a lot
I believe we have a case of Skill Issue
Indeed
anything interesting in the unredacted text?
@vocal cove You need to lurk better, you're giving them clues just by being active here...
what i'm wondering is how many we can find
but with that 32 or something size hash, not gonna happen
The opposite of redacted is just "dacted", trust me
You are a clue
i'm so confused
You are confused
i am frostty

your jedi mind tricks won't work on me
Just from a first look, its mostly explicitly stating he'll work at garganta and that Dr. Teale was the one doing his Psychiatric evaluation
i don't understand what he could be spoiling, it's only listed as "branding"
💋
Crap
Yeah, I don't think Simon knows anything 
Get to the chopper @acoustic harbor!
SIMON NOOOOO
hahahaha
Haha, we were afraid that we messed up att first…
Don't do it…
