#gtfo-lore
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I love reading "Steam update available"
yes
Yes
I want more
Did you see his birthday pic on Sunday?
I did! I even said happy birthday to the handsome fella.
Still feel a bit sorry about that 🙂
thats ok, you even said its not ext related ^^
wtf it's at 12
indeed

what was running through your mind when we got to the really exotic stuff like looking at star charts, & ancient 4,000 year old Mayan medical text documents?
i guess it's safe to say it isn't an exponential curve
because it wouldn't slow down then speed up between 10, 11, & 12
Sacrificing the children to the God of Sun
😳

It mostly reminds me of my time being on your side just so eager for info and trying to piece together clues
odds on you make the warden go to 13
I have been reinvigorated like never before. Bless.
inb4 it randomly jumps to 666 for an hour then back to 12
that would be top tier trolling
i learned from the best back when i used to play the MMO "Guns of Icarus". i was a top-tier shitposter for the Anglean Republic.
my specialty was memes using nothing but stills of the 1982 classic "THE THING" by john carpenter.
Did the WRDN bot skip 10 and 11?
Ah ok
My only guess as to the WRDN bots purpose is to tease stats for R5, which had 13 expeditions. Maybe it'll reset, count stats for r6, and then we'll get something leak wise.
For example, the 12 could mean 12/13 expedition stats recorded. This is a stretch though.
I like that and at least it has a direct connection to the bot with the twitter account
it seems possible but then it would be weird how expedition 10 and 11 have very little data
Momma flaps
@solar carbon said mother might make fog
looks sorta like the wheezer from dead space
… they do make fog
After spawning babies usually they fill the area with really thick fog
It cant be infectious
yeah, but it doesn't last. it goes away after the mother dies
And they usually use their flaps a bit when they do it I think ive got a gif of it
I do not
13
interesting
what if this becomes like
a curve
I've had the idea of it being something like signal strength increasing and decreasing with the new planet orbiting
far fetched but possible
sounds fun at the very least
Friday the 13th...
uhhhhhh
he knows ^^
today is tuesday
At least it's not a 23-19.
is it Tuesday. Darnit. Abort!
check your calendar
and the 15th
go back to 12
OH
YOOOO
jeffgoldblum.gif
perfect time for some chores around the house until im older
H Y P E. AAAAA
I only got to the numerical age question before it stopped replying.
yeah but still
same
seems like the next set of missions
Well it got to 13
Which, by the way: numerical age is something like: "25 years, 11 months, 26 days"
Not just "25" or "26" or whatever.
Same lol
i heard something about a pdf\
Oh my
your bot is literally dead
You killed it!
Guys we beat the Warden
pdf? elaborate what you are looking for
LONG LIVE SCHAEFFER
like some people got through the bot commands and got a pdf
Final boss killed boys
RESIST
something ab it in general
it's at 14
It is back!
Okay, that's pretty cool. The TL;DR of the document is: "We may want to use your voice in our game, and you can't be compensated for it because you're volunteering."
A chance to be a part of the game, eh? Neat.
Well I’m too young for it
Yooo, thats neat!
pretty interesting
i would volunteer but i would die if i heard my voice in a recording xd
no, it's literally just 25
what if this is the mimic??
YALL. What if these lines will be used for the mimic? Voices that don't belong to it, saying things that dont connect
XD
I reckon its the mimic
👀
"There’s something else in here. I hear it, footsteps in the tunnels. In the walls, I hear it. Growling but not… not like one of the creatures. It… it tries to talk. To anyone, to no one but it’s using a voice that… that doesn’t belong to it. The words make no sense."
Per definition, numerical age is specifically that format, though.
It fits so well, right?
That would be so cooool
OOOH
U RIGHT
I've also had to use that format in a small number of legally binding documents.
Dude if I heard my own voice trying to call out to me my heart would drop into my stomach at mach 12
or 69
Imagine the voice shifting every sentence. A stitched together string of nonsense.
thats terrifying
Based on if we are right or not, another ominous name for the mimic could be "the community"
*calamity flashbacks intensify
👀 I see y'all are goin wild with the theories
bro what if it's like an abombination of all the KSO's that we woke up in KDS Deep?
in what context?
Hmm.. that's too close to Project Legion, I think.
Like wasn't the whole point of R5E1 to wake up a bunch of security officers?
What if they all took the drop from the drop platform in E1, and then all were warped and twisted into some kind of amalgamate?
No. We opens the pods and stole all of their clothing
Snatcher voice lines 👀
with all of their memories and ideas merging into one collective conciousness
which could be why there are so many lines
or it could be an allen
whats an allen >:)
a type of wrench
being serious tho u could be right
an alien seems possibe
Aliens vs prisoners
do we know that?
yes
oh i guess we know that
read pins
XD mb
check the "for dummies" doc
D:
a part of a super soldier program
not your "super strong" super soldier
kinda thing,
but more super as in never disobeys
has great combat skill,
like a private army of deathly loyal subjects.
Oh shit, these voices are gonna be the lost KDS security forces
What if??
given how it's just one line per person, i doubt it
This shit is coool af
did we have any mention of the mimic before KDS Deep?
and they aren't really full sentinces
nope, thats new with r6
or was it just R6C2
or atleast mine wasn't.
okokok
mine is a full sentence, 2 even
i don't think they have to be full sentences
just c2
it would help if there were more context to the lines
Mine was a full sentence, with an added fragment
"of course they're reading our letters" could be spoken many ways
I had to activate my RP voice, and I just read the script.
yeah i was gonna rp but OBS broke my mic
Smashing down a door and you hear yourself muffled on the otherside lmaooo
i legally can't sadly
so now it sounds like im coming from a tape recorder
I'll hide it. You know the place.
Gonna try and record it to sound as otganic as possible
Try and remove mic noise lol
it will be funny to hear punk's voice all of a sudden from the dark though
i mean, if it is an amalgamate
Wait, did we all get different prompts?
yah
with or without a space between "of course" and "they're reading our letters"
"I'll meet you there at seven. Ish"
i got "he is in isolation, no one gets to see him"
so this will be the KDS Deep fruition day
More than likely. Dude. This is going to be so dope.
WOOOOO
yeah
also
well sadly i won't be able to do any
but still cool nonetheless
neat
Calle randomly dropped the date Friday the 13th before the bot thing happened
and May has a Friday the 13th
coincidence?
yeah copium
Calle has also dropped song lyrics that were completely unrelated. Don't trust him blindly.
hopefully he is at least having fun by messing with us
oh lol ok
I trust Calle blindly 
calle throwing us all
"We have a place in Mexico."
seems a little more conversational than the other prompts
Definitely seeing some repeats of quotes
yeah mine definitely came from a guard
yeah so they can layer them maybe?
i'd LOVE that
they could do some cool stuff with a huge quantity of voice clips
Kinda how we give names to all the creatures. We call the one voiced by the community "the community"
Also because it just sounds kinda ominous
Legion
"The people"
I got "That's very mysterious"
Maybe a scientist? Or snarky prisioner?
Very hyped to see these get used
I fully expect these lines to be those lines you see when you select a floor
I do wonder if this has to do with Project Legion.
I got "You remembered my birthday!" So I ain't sure
maybe but I just thought of it when thinking about other cases of many ppl kinda converging into 1 thing
"What would the WARDEN want with these anyway...
"That's very mysterious"
"And It's ATTRACTING the damn sleepers"
"Let's just get out of here already"
Huh... yeah, that's a tough one for my theory
now that is something I wouldn't want to hear in 20 voices at the same time from the dark
definitely some lines are related
they all seem like KSO small talk
what KSOs are writing letters?
i mean maybe
who knows
yeah i mean, mimic coulda gotten them too
remember, KSOs during biocom were basically drones
Yeah, stuff like that.
workers weren't KSOs
I'm thinking it's a mix of audio logs.
and small talk
Because right there is a reference about the Warden.
So it could just be collective conversations over a long strand of time?
seems like it
gtfo visual novel with voice acting
I know
I was elaborating on this
ok someone might have noticed this before but in the intro, it says "Entry point: Section 5, area E1
putting in media
yeah, for R5 it was
Rundown protocol 4.5 completed. Access from section R4E1 established.
oh you mean that intro, nvm ^^
kewl kewl, just checking
what about at the beginning of r1?
no idea I started in R3
Just check an R1 video and see
some prisoners are not part of the "super soldier program" (i'm assuming your talking about legion)
for example, Dauda, right?
technically he wasn't legion
after he got out his HSU we don't really know what happened
but he became a KSO
could've hypothetically gotten training from other KSOs
well scaler speculated that when someone came along to recover and Dauda's memory was wiped they sent him into the legion program
since there was nothing they could do
they put him into legion
I don't think we have a date stamp for the prisoner audio logs, do we?
Double checking.
i dont think so
nope
nope
how do we know he became a KSO?
remiund me what a KSO is
he is "mind controlled"
really?
only KSOs are known to have that property
But we don't have evidence to that claim, do we?
well he is like bishop, hackett and woods
just doing what the warden wants
Kovac Specialist Operative / Kovac Security Operative / anything around that.
there are a decent lot of similarities that indicate that he is a KSO
I don't see that. are you observing that in game or through logs?
k
Just wanted to say that the quotes are repeating -- we have multiples of the same one already... Honestly I really think it's going to be actual voices instead of just text on the Interrupted Transmissions (in mission info)
Putting this here, for reference
#general message
The best ones become the voice ingame
you forgot to add mine
he is one of the 4 playable characters
which would be?
What do you do for a living?
wait nvm it is there
well that does not mean hes "mind controlled" nor does it mean that the other prisoners are either.
im just blind
all good
we know that the other prisoners are mostly under such an influence
how so
they are KSOs from the Legion program
we know that Legion members are sorta like that
well we dont know if Dauda is a KSO or from the legion program
or schaeffer
well we know schaeffer is a prisoner like us
(the main characters)
who are from legion
verified from the interview audio logs we found in r5 i think
he seems like a KSO when accounting for the similarities with the other 3, which are Legion
and we know that Legion members are basically brainwashed
the only similarities they have are that they are in the same group what are the similarities
I still consider KSOs to be any operative under BIOCOM.
defacto making him seemingly be a KSO of some kind
i'm talking about behaviour
which is doing what the warden wants
he just does it
like the other three
But here's my wrench to throw into that idea, @analog frigate : We don't know enough about Project Legion to know how they get to the point of 'mind control.' As far as we're aware, the only thing that the HSUs do is wipe long-term memory. Now, we can assume and speculate that they go through a kind of psychotherapy or some kind of REM/Dream-like influence in the HSUs, but we don't know that.
The only thing we know about Dauda is that he was a scientist/researcher, and that he threw himself into an HSU to get away from the Sleepers.
exactly
yea the only behavior we can observe is that they chatter amongst each other in game, which seems quite normal to me
it seems like the reason they have to do what the warden tells them to do is because if they dont, they will be left in the complex to die
true, but doesn't necessarily have to include any influence while inside an HSU, it's enough to remove the memories to form a blank slate, from which to build a soldier, seemingly from birth (as in mental status)
i mean it as in how we complete the expeditions
I wonder if the Boys get any recreation time
not in-game chatter
that is not concrete enough. because we, the players, complete the expeditions.
true, but lorewise, the 4 do
true, but not necessarily. there are logs of KSO's acting like robots, and Bishop (while a KSO) acting like a robot, but that was way before WRDN took over.
like during the 2050's
I guess what I'm pointing to is: what's the process to get to that point of skill with a firearm, and what's the process of understanding the BIOCOM/WRDN stack and following it to the T, when all we know is very little about his background?
you're right
the process is quite simple imho. imagine waking up, having no past memory besides your name, and you see on your visor, do this or be left to die.
so no "mind control" is required. at least to the extent of the robot kso from the closet log
Sure, but that wouldn't explain his innate ability to effectively use a firearm like the others, who we know are previous combat veterans.
I'm not saying there's no chance that Dauda also isn't one, but just that we have no history outside of the logs we do have.
reminds me like a concept of those "implants" in prey
could be something like that
good point, but im sure you will pick it up quick once sleepers are sprinting at you. it also helps to have 3 other teammates that can use them quite well to learn from.
Which would make sense when you effectively have that, as Daraxus stated, blank slate.
its hit or miss because we dont even know what kind of firearm training came with project Legion
I'd bet money that it would be a more elite version of military training, as the whole project is theorized (I don't think we've proven this) as we know it to build that ultimate PMC force.
Project Legion?
Yessir.
yea I could see that.
they can probably shoot so well from having the muscle memory
its like coming back to something you havent done in ages
you either pick it up again quickly or you just dont
Right, and I've made that distinction before with all but Dauda however many weeks ago that I last hyper-focused this topic, but I do think that over time Dauda would have picked up on it, too.
i mean dauda probably has some weapon experience already since he was on the run being hunted by other people
i'm thinking that he could have been "trained" him in combat and similar stuff due to him losing a large part of his memory
actually
that would make sense lore wise
and give the devs a reason to add a weapon training ground
? I don't recall him ever being hunted down in the scenario that required him to use firearms. We know he was on the run from Interpol for the Cornerstone Trials and was picked up in Chad by Rutger Werner and was forced to sign a contract with SMC under the threat of being exposed.
also there is the fact that we cant really know if dauda is good at shooting, because we are the actual players
I mean it's possible, I suppose.
You think he would have had enough time to be taught these skills under immense pressure and threat from Sleepers/WRDN? I could see it, though it makes little sense to his success/survival rate thus far.
Yes I was
Tbf, it would be like 1 newbie getting carried by 3 people.
Plenty of leniency.
It'd be like giving a football to a professional NASCAR driver and telling him to score against England; they don't really mix together too well, you know?
Yeah, that is true, I suppose.
sorry for the ping but I found what the entry point was for R1
same thing
ok
for the alpha it shouldve said entry point surface or where legion was originally started in garganta
Love how thats a screenshot from Markiplier
yes
on the santonian website, [EBDT-B55-VFS.LOG] under corrupted, they underestimated, ". . . Unlike previous pandemics (Hook, COVID19 – 21, Respo-Z2), . . .". I find it mildly amusing that 2 years is an underestimate, but could it be fixed?
you don't need to use spoiler tags in here
well, I didn't want to ruin it for someone who hadn't seen it
I'm not sure what you're asking here. Would you please elaborate?
That's just the classification. The log is insinuating that there were 2 other strains of Covid pandemic that has happened since the current global pandemic.
well lets hope it isn't too accurate
I know that Covid-19 means coronavirus from 2019, but in the event I'm wrong, the pandemic did have a vaccination by 2021, anyway.
Actually now that I think about it, it makes sense for the current pandemic to be labelled C19-21. Forget my previous statements.
Lol
The r6A1 log talking about the namV virus definitely feels familiar haha
What's up with Schaeffer? Is he still in Complex, hiding from warden? And what is the intelligent creature he found?
No idea + supposedly a creature that mimicries
No idea about what it is & its origin
Schaeffer might be alive but there's nothing that can confirm it
Okay, cool
hypothetically he is in fact still somewhere in the complex
there really isn't much of a known way to get out besides the main shaft, but that is only doable with the elevator which only the warden is known to control
the "mimic" is mostly unknown but there are some theories on its origin
a supposed politician, or just someone in power in yucatan, Gustavo wanted some bodies burned
iirc the reason was some dirty work by KDS and SMC
taking into account the description of it (sort of ash covering it, pale skin, multiple bodies fused into one) it could be a mutated pile of bodies fused into one from all those burned bodies
but that's still a theory and there isn't much proof
it's mimicry is unknown and how it can "regenerate" by fusing its body parts is also unknown
I'm 99.999999% sure that Schaeffer is alive, because of his dialogue in R6A1; he's directly speaking to us.
It would be weird if he just left a message that played directly when a door was opened.
indeed
just wondering
Have any of you guys found out there's two seperate logs for the room before matter wave?
(Schaeffer ranting)
Just making sure im not the only one to stumble on this.
yeah thats one of 2 logs that has multiple variations, the audio in B1 also has 2 variations but only varies slightly
yea i assumed they made it that way so people could have replay ablility
but it doesnt really matter seeing how they talk about the same things
would have been fun if they actually had different messages but then again, would be pretty annoying to get the other versions by reloading over and over ^^
ye ^
How likely is it the Durant team is dead on Destination?
Basically depends how much time passed between the time bishop returned alone and the events of the game. I would assume they would all die sooner or later with no way back and no way to resupply.
If they don't get killed by their attackers first
they brought requisitions with them though, didn't they?
i know they brought plants, but they died during the trip
and there is equipment and even buildings on destination
I mean yeah, but I doubt their supplies would last multiple decades. So, if for example the game takes place in 2080 or something, they should have run out of supplies at some point
that depends also, i suppose
they could have brought seeds, or other things to make it relatively infinite
True but the second log made it sound like they would die within the next few weeks anyway, being picked of one by one
so farming would probably not be an option
do sleepers attack structures?
they attack doors because they see people go through them i mean,
but if they make an entirely enclosed structure
surely they could have found a way to make it safe?
given the multiple forward base locations (b1 & d1), surely they would have encountered the floaters before the cutoff of communications
i'm not saying it's likely, but there might be a chance
I always assumed they were attacked by some things that can teleport, because Durant makes it clear there was no actual way they could move around normally and that they are on the run.
also i suppose would be relavant, do we know how nam-v spreads? is it airborn?
how would they always know where they are? that's a bit strange.
they smell their fear

no idea ^^
He says its possible they use hunting techniques, so I would assume tracking is something they are capable of
Oh and I forgot Durant himself says that they will die there for sure, and I would trust his word on that
what were they doing with multiple forward bases out there anyway?
i thought jumping was inconsistant
Could have been build by later expeditions when they figured out how to stabilise the jumps, if they ever did
They're pretty much confirmed dead since Bishop was the only one to return with the device, on top of the log where Bishop talks about his crew and the KSOs being killed by whatever it was that was hunting them (assumed to be the floaters).
Not to mention it's been years upon years since they made that jump.
Curious. Is there in the lore anywhere about other prisoners that consist of female ones?
it’s possible that they could of been taken as hostages by aliens or something like that. because if I remember correctly, durant said they were just being taken by the creatures, not specifically killed. I personally think they died, but it’s possible they were taken as hostages as well.
While plausible, it's incredibly unlikely. I say that because we've seen the bodies scattered around the research sites, we've seen what the floaters do, and it's described that the creatures that they experience can manifest through solid surfaces.
if they manifest through solid surfaces, that makes it even easier for them to take them alive.
by teleporting
and if the planet does experience time dilation, then who knows how long bishop was there for.
probably months.
Correction: I misremembered the log.
"They plucked [name] out of the center of us."
I respect what you're getting at, but it would make zero sense from what we can visually see and interpret in-game.
well I mean we don’t even know if the creatures that were attacking them were flyers or not.
No, but we can make an incredibly educated guess with how we're attacked in the same rough location they were first attacked.
ok that’s true. but remember the log that described the miner that encountered a entity deep down in the mine? the one that teleported?
there are most likely other creatures
that can teleport
idk. it seems possible. especially if bishop was there for months before escaping. I would first assume that they died there though.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just going by what we have experienced thus far. On EF-01 we've only experienced the floaters and the kraken, and as far as we can tell, at least to my knowledge, there aren't any other entities on the planet aside from those.
And yeah, I can see that being the case. Even so, let's say they were captured, I guarantee that they are dead due to lack of food and water, let alone anything their captors would potentially put them through.
woah woah woah
i doubt the allens took them as hostages
this is 65 million years after they fled to earth
there is no way there are any left alive on destination, and i would bet, at all
well those are very bold assumptions ngl
- why would they have fled to earth if they could still live on destination
- why do we encounter no ruins if they are still there
3)if they didn't flee, why did they send the meteor
Even if they were captured, I'd bet they were tasty morsels for the young. Lmao.
please clarify, are you talking about the sleepers, or the allens?
i doubt the sleepers would take "hostages"
- we don’t even know if they fled destination alpha.
- we literally explore 2 km of the planet so far
- we don’t even know if the meteor came from destination alpha.
they don't seem to have any higher thought other than kill/grow the hive
aliens.
the things that attacked durants group.
i agree with that.
We're talking about EF-01 and Durant's team.
the floaty bois (aliens) or ancient aliens (allens)
don’t know. i don’t think it’s the floaty things, because durant would of said something about that. all he said was that people kept getting “plucked” away and taken. i’m thinking it has something to do with the teleporting creature in the log with the santonian miner.
hmm. i don't know. i just don't see how any non-infected allens could have survived on destination with infected like the kraken just wandering about on the surface
the surface seems entirely barren other than plantlife, and the only actual life we've seen has been infected already.
yea true, but we barely know anything about NAMV or the native life on destination alpha.
granted, we've never seen the underground, but still
well, we know the floaties are infected, since sleepers don't attack them in the complex, and we know the kraken is infected because it and the floaties don't fight
the thing we download in d1 is the genome to something, likely nam-v
so i mean,
it's not like it's not open to debate
the planet is thoroughly fucked.
what we talking about
else that just goes back to the point; why send the meteor in the first place if it wasn't
allens, aliens, and nam-v
before we were talking about if durant's team or anybody could still be alive during the time of the game
ok
@finite vine what did i miss that led to you guys discussing there still being living allens on destination!?
i’m not saying they could still be alive necessarily, i’m just saying that they might of not been killed right away, and that is possible that the creatures that hunted them took them and are intelligent.
I mean no one really proved that there are not aliens on destination alpha. it’s still up for debate and we need more info.
hunting is a rather instinctual thing though, any animal can and does do it, it's not neccessarily tied to intelligence
Well, it is associated with intelligence, it just doesn't require anything that advanced.
well we know there are aliens on destination, everything there is alien to us. i was talking about allens
we don't have a name for them in lore
so allen is the best we really have
I meant the ancient aliens, the ones that made the fossil, the MWP and the data cubes.
yeah allens
The fossil's architects.
yes, allens.
I wonder if the NFRAMEs are at all associated with the neonate and R3D1.
Like, we're relieving the data load from "explicit NFRAME units" in R4C1, and we have a similar objective in R5C3 for secondary.
So, it might be the case that this is essentially a maintenance objective associated with the neonate.
well why not use a data sphere then?
instead of going through all of the difficulty with the neonate
Not sure I understand.
My postulation is that these are objectives associated with the neonate, whatever is being done with it, and that's why we're handling data spheres for these objectives.
ok so you are saying that everything we do with the n frames after r3 has a relation with the neonate?
Yes, that's what I think might be happening.
ok yea I guess that’s possible
Would make it one among our long-term goals.
what do you think is inside the data spheres?
and what kind of data might they store?
data cubes data spheres, what's next?
data triangles
The data pyramid 👁️ 👄 👁️
Not sure. I assume it's something to do with the nFrame functionality.
do you think it’s biological like the neonate, or artificial like a normal data drive?
like a human brain inside of it lol
A really really big SSD.
Might also just be a storage container for a fuckton of HDDs.
Or any data storage, for that matter.
yea, i would agree to that. it just makes me wonder how data is transferred along a giant needle?
well actually, there could be something inside the needle, like wires.
It's probably something like a multi-tool.
It might also be that it's entirely standard read/write, and anything associated with the neonate in specific is just handled by the neonate HSU itself.
Unclear how reliably this can be interpreted, but does seem to indicate that "research data" related to the nFrames is something we're after.
If it is related to the neonate, might be DIY research or we're gathering information that's a prerequisite for taking additional steps with the neonate.
Could also just be unrelated, and the nFrame research data is just of some unclear value to the WRDN.
it probably has something to do with NAM-V
Maybe, but the PGD is the first instance of something we've seen that's likely to have a clear relation to NAM-V.
Everything else has been fairly nebulous in terms of what the WRDN's long-term goals are, including the purpose of downloading the PGD.
the enemies were birthed from microwaved foil
best theory so far
^
nonono, the monsters were born from the gross mass of hair and shit in shower drains
KDS Deep, although it's not known explicitly.
It seems like GLPs, OSIPs, and the Cryo cases are all resources for maintaining HSUs.
It fits well into the rest of the objectives in R4 and R5, which seem to be largely related to activating KDS Deep.
Power collection especially.
Let me know if this is the right channel to post this.
I'm working on a project involving all of the GTFO logs in order, and I'm on "Santonian industries" plus the wiki page for the logs. And R2 only has one log that's in pieces, according to the wiki. But Santonian industries list it as one log. This is fine and better for what I'm doing but there are also two other logs listed. Is this correct? they seem unrelated and from R5. I'm also not seeing a log on Santonian industries in R4 that's listed on the wiki. (02EX2.LOG) Am I missing something? or is the site not properly updated?
Any help is appreciated.
You're half correct about asking here
You can ask people in #wiki-chat about the missing logs in the wiki, but for the website this is the right channel (though idk how to help you 😳 )
lol I dont want to spam both channels.
The R5 logs in the R2 archive are most likely user error on 10C's part, there's no clear reason for them to be there.
The Lore Database has all of the logs (and then some) and the ability to organize them by date, if you needed that.
You can kind of do it on the main log page.
thats why i was cross referencing with the wiki
You can search by rundown. I might also add more board views, I'd have to look at what views I can actually add.
Weird
i can add the rundown filtering but i can't use it for some reason
clicking on it does nothing
thanks what im trying now.
Yeah, use the chronological board.
I think only one thats in chunks.
Okay, I've added a Rundown board view.
oh shoot, you're a legend.
So is the santonian industries site just not properly updated?
Wym?
its missing one for R4
Oh? Which one?
02EX2.LOG
It might be renamed, some logs are, although I have no idea what to.
I did see some changed and used the screenshots on the wiki to find them but that one seems to just be missing.
Hmmm, I might have to check them all over to see what's up.
It's not regularly updated, though, they just add all of the logs at once every time they release a new rundown.
I thought as much
It seems like they sometimes also add all of the logs ahead of time and flag them to display gibberish until they turn it off.
I know they did that for the R5 logs.
archive006 is just blank on the site.
yeah the current rundown logs arent listed there before they switch to the next one
So I guees I'll just use the log database and the wiki mostly for my project.
I want it to be in the order the players would find them from R2 to R3 and from A1 to A2.
So the database is good. thanks.
yeah database is probably the easiest to navigate/order stuff definitely
definitely has the most useful info. only thing I'd like is the "Zone" the log was in.
I have a list for R5 and 6
I need all rundowns. but I could look up maps and do it that way I guess.
I can send you the lists for 5 and 6 if you want, older Rundowns should be easier anyway with the lower amount of logs
That would probably be pretty helpful.
The amount of logs in R4 vs. anything prior is a massive difference.
Maps also got bigger in general.
oof. I started playing late R5.
Hm I just realised I only started noting the zones halfway through 5, at least I got R6 completely covered ^^'
still appreciated
Alright, think I'm good now! Thanks for the help guys!
What on earth are you guys talking about with proteins, (glps?) And this santonian industries thing
I don't know any of this
Homepage of SANTONIAN Industries, strategic investors group.
i found your youtube channel
GLPs are a gather objective, along with PIDs, PDECs, OSIPs, HDDs, and plant samples.
Click the logo
"missing image"
Click the missing image
a terminal\
There you go, it's essentially an official log database.
As opposed to the wiki or Notion.
logs command isn't working
LIST
also why use this when we have the wiki and notion?
CD [item]
what?
We've had unique lore on it exactly once, but there's no reason to use it, it's just what somebody was running.
It's also worth checking on every now and then for teasers.
what is corrupted?
R6 teasers.
R6 logs before it was released
also didn't you say r6 logs weren't on it yet?
but also logs we dont even have in game
what is archive006
also corrupted had some logs from R5 extension before we even knew about the extension
what were you talking about protiens? what are glps?
Gather objective items in R5/6
GLPs are a gather objective, along with PIDs, PDECs, OSIPs, HDDs, and plant samples.
that tells me literally nothing
I don't have the query information on-hand rn.
what are pdecs and osips?
i know pids are the id cards for staff
Partial decoders, OSIPs are a hormone.
Hard Disk Drive
Glucagon peptide hormones (Glp)
Query information.
You can query them on terminals.
But can't in R6 because there are none.
stuff
What specifically?
all
GLPs and OSIPs, as well as the proteins in cryo cases, are probably used for HSUs, although what exactly is unclear. This is a speculative explanation, though.
PIDs and PDECs are used for security access.
HDDs contain information. They've been collected for research data and possibly for security access, we're not always told.
Plant samples are completely unknown, presumably collected for the sake of research.
plant samples?
Tubes that store some sort of plant, yes.
pic?
where the fuck did all of this stuff come from?
thats from R5
i skipped two rundowns and there are 50 new objective items?
R4 and R5 added most of them.
Not actually very surprising when R2 and R3 had exactly one gather objective between them.
i played through all of r2 and 3, and i don't remember jack diddly
i even have pics from e1 in one of them, but i can't for the life of me remember
other than "stuff" with the neonate
just a bunch of random missions
did r2 even have the neonate in it?
i remember the first bunch of missions were just a ton of big doors and waves
You get the neonate at the end of R2E1, and then most of the stuff you do with it is in R3.
and i was messing around with the new weapons
This is actually kind of important, Kovac was keeping these plant samples, not Insight.
why is that container spelt with a K?
Which implies that Kovac was doing its own research in the floodways.
it's kovac not KOVAK
I wonder if that's a typo...
tax fraud, change the company name to save money
Odd.
I'll defer to the logs, I guess, which largely use Kovac.
It is weird that Kovac manufactured the container, though.
maybe its from their research department and they just dont have a seperate logo
That's my thought, but it's surprising it's not something Insight was in charge of.
Late to this conversation: but I do vaguely remember Kovac/Kovak had both spellings in logs.
Whether that was a typo oversight from 10c or not, or if my memory is just fucking with me, couldn't tell you.
could the plant sample tubes be the things that went through to alpha two with bishop and that group? the ones they said popped open on the way over?
(from the log on alpha two, if I'm remembering it correctly that is)
i don't think so. for a couple of reasons
1: how would it have gotten back to garganta for us to find it
2: why are there plants inside it instead of just dust, since they died several hundred times over during the jump to destination
well what I meant was they're like more of those, not the specific one yknow
but they're more of the things they sent over with them to send over if they were to go again
how do you know that they died several times over during the jump?
I thought it might of been something in the atmosphere that killed them. at least that’s what was said in the audio log from b1.
Yeah nah number 2 seems a bit to much man
"Months even years ago"
A plant cannot last year's without water or sunlight.
It says it during the log?
Not explicitly, but he says it looks like they died months, even years ago
And that he sprayed them with water just before the jump
How so?
What? No it didnt
"The capsules must have popped open during transit, the plants have been exposed and withered away to nothing. Although the soil in the capsule is bone dry. I prepped these plants myself and when they left my lab, the soil was saturated. And even in this environment the plants should have survived weeks but they look like they died months even years ago. "
"WITHERED AWAY TO NOTHING"
"THE CAPSULES MUST HAVE POPPED OPEN DURING TRANSIT"
in this log they are currently, as in, right now, as in, during the log, sending KSOs to gather stuff they sent over the past few months
so it isn't a misinterpretation, this is their transit from garganta to destination, not just around on the planet.
besides, they said they "SENT THE CAPSULE 3 DAYS AGO"
so it didn't come with them at the time. so the only transit possible at all was during the jump
so it literally couldn't have moved until they got there
cont: it said "there might be something in the atmosphere we're not picking up", but he also said that they were prepped for destination's environment. and it was only 3 days.
even at the start of this he said "ALICE: MASK!" so it's safe to say he's talking about his crew.
Strange lore
To keep it brief since we've had this discussion before: I believe that there's a time dilation issue due to the quantum tether cut. The pod was sent three earth days prior to Durant's team / KSOs to EF-01. When they make their jump three earth days later, the capsule is discovered to have popped open, the plants are bone dry, as if they had been exposed for months or years, and Durant believes it has something to do with the environment.
However: over the course of days for them, the scientists don't suffer the same fate as the plants. They don't appear to be and aren't desiccated after only mere days.
My theory is that the plants were on EF-01 for months or maybe even years because of time dilation. That being said, I have no proof other than word-of-mouth because we don't know how long Bishop was on EF-01 with its measure of time compared to the week on earth when he returned.
Hopefully there will be a log in the future that clarifies the difference of time, if there even is/was a difference in time, that Bishop survived on EF-01 compared to the week on earth.
yeah time dilation seems to be the most likely.
the movie Interstellar had a great scene explaining this phenomenon in a simple way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lznM-fygfqo
though that raises the question: was the warden waiting years for our squad to return from b1 and d1?
and segments of c1 & a1
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yeah bishop coming back in just a week makes literally zero sense according to reality. realistically, that should be 100% impossible
since time works both ways. it isn't time travel.
depends on the orbital eccentricity of the planet
while it's closer, time would run slower compared to earth
and vice versa when it's further
yes, but being there his return would be later relative to earth
it would be relative to the time dilation
which is already relative to the gravitational force around it, it being the planet
so time-wise he would return maybe months later depending on the scale of the gravitational force
not necessarily
in 3 days, durant says it is possible years passed for the plants
so for a week, it would be months for the people on earth awaiting bishops' return
yes but that could have been when the planet was closer to the source of the massive gravitational force
iirc we don't really know how long they were on the new planet
stokes' audio log
okay,
and we know the plants were there for 3 days
before bishop left
and durant says it was months maybe years
so going with an estimate in the middle,
we can calculate how long bishop SHOULD have been gone for
that also depends on the method of transportation
since it's using some FTL method of travelling between the planets
yes, this is assuming the allens' teleportation technology is instant.
but then they vary in how you actually reach the other point
not a ministucle ammount
alcubier drives are also instant if tuned properly
also accounting for it being two set points, it easily can be instant
what type of wormhole ftl
there are two that i remember
one which bends space to make it like a portal from the portal franchise
this one. like the classic paper demonstration
still, even with a generous estimate, there is no way bishop should have returned in only a week.
and then one which squishes spacetime and moves spacetime around you to transport you
both work differently
we have to proof of what type of FTL is used
when the minimum bounds Durant states is months (plural)
the effects can be different
so even if they were there for only a day, which they wouldn't be since durant had enough time to notice the tether being broken and unable to return, would be at least two weeks, maybe more earth time
again, it's all based on relativity
since 3 days for the plants is 2 months minimum, so 1 day would be almost two weeks
with the lowest possible estimate
something could have changed in between that time when they first transported the equipment and when bishop came back
we have no way of knowing currently
what about how we return?
you can't make estimates on this
we return the same way
time seemingly doesn't pass between us coming and going
the mission carries on as normal
enemies gone stay gone, they don't repopulate the zones in our absence
i don't understand, what is the missing variable?
that's the issue
to do a rough calculation
@frail pollen can you ask Simon what kind of FTL the WMP the Allens created uses to transport us to Destination?
That you'll have to discover on your own
and how, pray-tell, would we do that?
that's assuming r7 even continues r6's storyline. r4 didn't for r3.
no, probably only weeks. we were only there for like at most, an hour.
it depends on the planets speed relative to earth. it would only depend on the orbital eccentricity if the planet comes close to a very large gravitational influence.
that as well yes
If durant said that he sent the plants 3 days ago, and once observed on Destination Alpha, they seemed like they were there for 2 months, and time dilation is occurring due to velocity (ignoring gravitational influences b/c we have no evidence of them right now) then:
Earth is moving at 0.999132% the speed of light relative to Destination Alpha.
If Bishop was gone for 7 days for observers on earth, then he was on Destination Alpha for about 168 days.
I think for transportation we should assume that no dilation effects occur within the jump. For now at least, until we get more info, because we literally have no idea how the MWP works.
i suppose we should factor out any influence until we learn what the influence is
well just because they popped open during transit does not mean they experienced what ever killed them during transit.
okay. while we can't time b1 and d1 because it's specific to the players own pace, how many seconds were we on destination in a1 and c1?
in that we could calculate how long we were gone for aswell
no, but what i mean is from the instant they arrived to the instant they get there, they were exposed to the time dilation and apparently aged into dust like some reference to an Indiana jones movie.
the entire time they were there, was longer than the time they were there. a Schrodinger's plant.
time dilation is confusing
(it wasn't the atmosphere or something in it, it was time being fucky from the transit)
for all intense and purposes, time is relatively "normal" until you jump back and forth
while the time was slower on destination, on destination it was fine
the gas masks were made in china
but for earth it was fine until durant got there with his team and the times were no longer in sync
idk it's fucking wierd
realistically, we have no clue who made them, but it's probably just some standard issue kit for Kovac
They're not really gas masks, anyway. They're filter masks, more for keeping dust particulates out of our lungs.
O
a gas mask wouldn't have exposed skin like some of the masks in game do.
i remember i saw a mask on the cover art
it made the guy look like he had shades on
this one
case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_gas
Mustard gas or sulfur mustard is a chemical compound belonging to a family of cytotoxic and blister agents known as mustard agents. The name mustard gas is widely used, but it is technically incorrect: the substance, when dispersed, is often not actually in a vapor, but is instead in the form of a fine mist of liquid droplets.Mustard gas has a l...
just because you don't breathe it doesn't make it deadly.
gas masks and propper suits cover 100% of the skin on a person
the masks in game are just essentially fancy respirators.
vs
different designs different purposes.
also why it doesn't protect you against the toxic fog.
it's particulates are either too small for the masks' filters, or it is based on skin contact.
watch a youtube vid on time dilation, it will help it make more sense. time dilation is not time travel, time still passes normally for the plants on planet alpha and for the observer on earth, it’s just that time passes slower on earth relative to planet alpha.
I did. I linked that one talking about interstellar
Mask filters are incapable of filtering that toxic fog at one point filters become toxicated they wont protect you after a certain amount has been filtered instead they Will poison the user thats why u need to change it (we use disinfect/station as a mean to clean the filters) ı hope we can use oxygen tanks at one point that would be cool
Im sure it is the first one the particules are too small for the filters
The toxic fog is definitely not blocked out by the filters, as the filters we use are only for dust and debris filtration so tiny shards and particulates don't shred our lungs. The toxic fog, some of us theorize, mostly has to do with skin contact, as it makes the most sense as to why it's removed when we wash ourselves with decontaminant/the decon machines. If it builds up enough, we start getting that liquidy breathing and start taking damage.
Need more evidence on this
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PUGP9QcbTQBEJnSwfNI_XdY931Zoeq6fMu8bwn4LJas/edit?usp=sharing
Here's the multiple theories we've come up with as to what the fog could be.
Currently we have 3 possible theories on what could be causing the fog to be toxic:1 - Toxin, something like Sarin 2 - Parasite, something microscopic in nature 3 - Dust, most likely Cretasium We have managed to rule out it being a parasite and dust. Below are listed proofs of it being the thre...
Wow that was enlighting
Thanks
"the nam-v virus is described as a parasite that can go through hazmat class a suits" how out of date is this pdf??
That one is... before my time.
The only contribution I had to this was the cyanobacteria one.
I think this was originally made back in R3-R4.
the great R5 lore depression
late r5 basically
it's old but still correct about the topic it's written upon
nam-v isn't the parasite. they are seperate tho
at the time the logs to prove that didn't exist
It is now March 20th, and I have a birthday request: more lore when
Happy Birthday ^^ 🎉
Happy birthday champ, dont let the sleepers bite while you look for lore in the complex 
or do let them bite you. maybe you'll learn something new.
you'll become spiderman sleeperman
Enjoy this 24 hours
happy birthday!
Lmfao. April Fools event idea, right here!
Happy birthday!
it was used to unlock a terminal
The final log in Schaeffer's "Deeper" logs was locked behind that password.
Wasnt that the c3 one
Yes.
How do people feel about the objective type tags for repeating objectives?
Currently, the tags are structured to loosely indicate what the optional objectives were, but would it be better as instead a general overview of the objectives being done?
Different question, are the Rundown descriptions documented anywhere?
So I have a question. Is the matter doohickey crystal from the first mission of this rundown supposed to look like the nodules formed on the bodies of some sleepers?
My personal opinion is no.
Which ones do you mean?
I think I found that they were only R5 and R6, the intel at the top.
I remembered more, but they were actually A1 descriptions.
oh yeah true
Anywhere i can get all the email and audio logs found within the game?
Roadmap for R6 casually confirming the "other place" is another Dimension 👀
yeah with those "dimensions"
I don't think that's what the use of dimension is intended for.
In game design, dimensions are up, down, left, right, in, and out.
Wym?
They've been referred to that way in datablocks, so it might be an internal name.
Especially since it's a game system.
That being said, assets are placed on layers of planes, or dimensions. The players and sleepers, for example, share a 2-dimensional plane. While the flyers/floaters have their own dimensional plane.
My best guess for what they mean by dimensions are the use of asset transfer (the teleportation) to another dimension (plane), which effectively increases their amount of playable space.
Well, I can just confirm that, the dimension system is literally just what allows them to have multiple different maps available at a time. It's used for the prioity missions and it's used for D4.
It's all labeled that internally.
We could probably have labeled that a bit clearer 🙂
It's all good. So long as you guys know what it means in-house, I don't think we care too much about the specifics.
Based God help us if the in-house doesn't know what terms mean. 
I didn't really meant that as a serious discovery, its just easier to write down "dimensions" and everybody knows what they mean whether or not that's the actual lore meaning ^^
tbh that's probably one of the harder things about writing patch notes - having to choose terminology that doesn't reveal too much / isn't confusing / doesn't mislead anyone (whether lore or elsewise)
I definitely do not envy you guys on that front. I used to write the patch notes for a Conan Exiles roleplay server many moons ago (we had four in-house mods). We weren't a million+ dollar company, obviously, so we could be more lax and semi-professional in our patch notes and pull the curtain back just a little bit more than what you all probably want/do.
Absolutely agree...
I mean: "Hey they only list new audio logs on the roadmap, that means we won't have a single text log in extended" 
Oh god please do not spread this bad juju.

epic warden is on 16 now.
Oh no!
Sorry for the spoiler
^^
There was some other stuff in that list that I thought would trigger discussions in here thou
Oh really?
I'm curious as to what you mean, Calle.
BX, CX, DX
The X indicates we are on the new planet Xenoranon 
There's nothing really lore-related with the list, as far as I can tell. I mean new logs, new dangers, sure.
Maybe they hired George R.R. Martin to write three new waifus in the GTFO Elden Ring expansion.
