gtfo-lore

[eternal talon]

so this is.. before he was put in hsu?

[solar nova]

For now, they seem to be completely separate. Lockwood doesn't even seem to have contacts at KDS, while Davies does.

[finite vine]

no

[eternal talon]

so what the fuck

[amber field]

SMC hired KDS because inside sources were leaking information, and so KDS offered their services to track down and find the source of the leaks

[solar nova]

After he is put in an HSU, making him a KSO.

[eternal talon]

why does kds have this exclusive part of the complex

[amber field]

KDS Deep?

[solar nova]

So that they can operate security, and because Santonian is interested in KDS's research projects.

[eternal talon]

the rebecca stokes log says after only bishop came back, kds people took him to some part they didn't have access to

[eternal talon]

so kds is also doing their own seperate research down in these mines?

[solar nova]

Specifically, KDS needs its area for research and because they need the infrastructure to house HSUs and to install BIOCOM.

[eternal talon]

why is so much shit just happening in this random ass hole

[solar nova]

Yes.

[eternal talon]

okay

so wtf is r5e1

[amber field]

Yeah KDS is doing HSU research in the complex, and also hosting their legion program there

[eternal talon]

why the hsu storage

was that a part of that locked down kovak sector?

in the complex?

[finite vine]

well i’m saying that we don’t know what happened to the kovac research group that created the hsu’s in the 2030’s, it might be possible that kovac wanted to go to garganta to research some shit. but yea, they might not be related.

[solar nova]

R5E1 is KDS Deep, we don't actually know much about it other than that it houses a number of KSOs and is presumably where BIOCOM is installed.

[eternal talon]

okay what is biocom

i know the warden took it over, but first of all, what is it

[solar nova]

BIOCOM is a computer that manages combat operations for KSOs.

[eternal talon]

okay

why the fuck are they installing it in some other random company's fuckign mining hole?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

okay

[solar nova]

To have KSOs working at Garganta?

[eternal talon]

they need a seperate one everywhere they operate?

[harsh saffron]

I mean its a program that can be installed in multiple places, like any programm I would assume

[eternal talon]

they can't remotely link to it from their hq? and.. what does biocom do for kds.. exactly

[amber field]

Basically, KDS said they need BIOCOM if they are to provide the highest quality of security

[eternal talon]

from how you describe it i'm thinking some giant ass server room

[amber field]

and SMC hired KDS as security

[solar nova]

They need BIOCOM wherever they want to run BIOCOM, yes. It might also just be that they don't have anywhere better to put BIOCOM right now, so they want it at a secure facility, which Garganta provides.

[eternal talon]

okay. THANK YOU

so

what does biocom do for kds

what does it offer, why do they need it?

[amber field]

This is the bare minimum. Without it, the operatives’ objectives will include a lot of low-level tasks that are much better suited to automation (terminal access, door management, bioscans etc.) This has been difficult enough with the operation at its current size. Once we are scaled up to full, it will become unmanageable and our operative fail rate will sky rocket. Ideally, BIOCOM would have access to everything at the highest level so the KSOs can be programmed with a minimal objective stack.

[solar nova]

We know from other logs that KDS is hurting for money, they've had a lot of bad press that's meant much of their funding has been cut (mainly from the U.S. government).

[amber field]

This is the bare minimum. Without it, the operatives’ objectives will include a lot of low-level tasks that are much better suited to automation (terminal access, door management, bioscans etc.) This has been difficult enough with the operation at its current size. Once we are scaled up to full, it will become unmanageable and our operative fail rate will sky rocket. Ideally, BIOCOM would have access to everything at the highest level so the KSOs can be programmed with a minimal objective stack.

[solar nova]

It tells KSOs what to do, KSOs can't really do much without BIOCOM.

[eternal talon]

so basically just a door opener?

it manages computers and sends orders between people?

[solar nova]

This log isn't super related to BIOCOM

It's kind of tangential.

[eternal talon]

does it run kds? who orders biocom?

and where does the warden fit into this?

[solar nova]

Nobody, BIOCOM is autonomous, it's just given parameters by KDS's human staff.

[harsh saffron]

That’s a BIOCOM access key. BIOCOM is a self-governing DI entity. I don’t run it. No one “runs” it. If it needs more power, it tries to get it. Other than that I have no idea why it made this request.

[eternal talon]

well that's kinda fucking stupid, no wonder they are going out of business. okay.

so what is the warden

[solar nova]

The WRDN is just a program that is a specialized version of BIOCOM, and presumably what sends the prisoners we play as into the complex.

[subtle verge]

... No. They're doing incredibly shady and unethical business practice.

[eternal talon]

were did it come from

[solar nova]

We don't know.

[eternal talon]

having basically a giant advanced toaster be your manager seems like a really stupid idea

[amber field]

We have a log of warden taking over, but thats it

[solar nova]

It seems to be something KDS wasn't aware of, however.

[eternal talon]

are you just saying it's just a skynet?

[analog frigate]

we do

made by KDS

[eternal talon]

biocom going, fuck you guys, i'm going solo

[solar nova]

?

[analog frigate]

oh the warden?

[solar nova]

Talking about the WRDN, not BIOCOM.

[subtle verge]

All we know about the origin of WRDN is that it's been around for quite some time, though we have zero idea on how long it's been there.

[eternal talon]

so.. biocom somehow becomes self aware, if it wasn't already.. becomes the warden.. then what?

[solar nova]

Not really? It seems like it's something created deliberately by some unknown 3rd party.

However, we know very little.

[eternal talon]

what is going on with kds when biocom goes rogue, or is this after they lose gargantua to the sleepers?

[solar nova]

Not much happens, but there are some weird requests that BIOCOM makes starting in April 2054. Specifically, it demands a very high power load be routed KDS Deep (this request fails) and it tells KSOs to do weird things (stand in a closet for 5 minutes, tell a Project Insight scientist "you must stop").

[finite vine]

how is that dumb?

its probably really efficient

[eternal talon]

terminator movies show how that's dumb

ANYWAY

so, let's get back to santonian

so... kds is there,

santonian... i guess gets weird heat readings?

is that first in the timeline?

[solar nova]

They discover Cretasium-77a

There is no avoiding this plot point.

[eternal talon]

where

[solar nova]

In the rock.

[amber field]

While mining for iridium, they discover Cretasium-77a

[eternal talon]

before or after literally the next 5 paragraphs of questions?

[solar nova]

It'd be like digging down and finding an iron vein or something.

[eternal talon]

so

they are digging for eridium

[solar nova]

But it's an entirely new material.

[eternal talon]

what happens first

they find this metal, or the heat readings?

[solar nova]

Metal.

[eternal talon]

then what

they go, huh, that's pretty fucking wierd, and dig deeper?

then what?

[solar nova]

They investigate the materials, and scan to see what the rest of the deposit is like deeper down.

[analog frigate]

lostty, personal recommendation - read the logs, please. i get that you probably skimmed over the logs a bit but the questions you are asking are painfully obvious and if you read the logs a bit you will easily get all the answers. then after you read them and know the lore, make theories and predictions, not before as you can doing now. like i don't want to offend you in any way but it just looks like you are missing even the surface level of lore and i doubt the statement "i've read the logs" is true.

[eternal talon]

i know it said somewhere gelogical activity was pretty bloody wierd

[eternal talon]

i read the logs. but i very much so struggle to piece them together. i'm trying to get all the info very basically, so i can string it into 1-2 paragraphs so that i can read it easier and understand it

[solar nova]

D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.B014.tier5.MSL.flagged.

MSL report K-UX-DeepScan-4-7-52

Sector analysis complete. The mass extends 2,215 (+/- 372m) meters from apex
to nadir. Width estimate is 1,247 meters (+/- 208m). As suspected, it is
largely made up of the newly discovered Cretasium 77a material, and
surrounded by a thin membrane of iridium. Further analysis is required to
determine if the material composition mirrors the artifacts. The data
suggests the composition of the "egg" is not identical to the artifacts, but
shares properties. This suggests a similar origin.

Core composition analysis follows:

cretasium 77a: 38.60%
oxygen: 27.34%
silicon: 12.12%
aluminum: 5.13%
iridium: 3.32%
sodium: 3.26%
calcium: 2.57%
potassium: 2.10%
magnesium: 2.03%
titanium: 1.14%
hydrogen: 0.93%
phosphorous: 0.77%
carbon: 0.54%

+trace strontium, barium, manganese, fluorine, sulfur, zirconium, tungsten,
chlorine, copper, nickel, nitrogen, zinc.

It is safe to assume that standard excavation methods will not work given the
results of the artifact analysis. We should upgrade the mine teams with Nyxos
cutters.

Additional: Several large, clear tubes can be seen on the true color gamma
print, starting at the approximate center point of the mass. They do not
appear to be lava tubes; the composition materials are too dense to be
affected by any heat generated by volcanic activity. Further analysis is
needed once we excavate. GSP data for the largest of these tubes has been
sent to operations.

[finite vine]

^

[eternal talon]

i'm basically going log by log at this point

[solar nova]

This log is the most important log for bridging the original purpose of the complex with what it becomes in the future.

[analog frigate]

then i suggest looking at this
https://www.notion.so/GTFO-Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0

[eternal talon]

okay, so they do this scan..

please slow down

[analog frigate]

it doesn't have some logs but it's exactly how you described you needed it, log per log in a timeline

[eternal talon]

so, is this before or after.. fuck this is so confusing

[finite vine]

Dr. Hammerstein (lead scientist of project insight) completes a deep scan of an object called "the egg" 2km deep. so they go and dig to it.

[eternal talon]

so they get wierd readings

hold ON

i'm not even at hammerstein yet

[solar nova]

Not sure what weird readings you're talking about per-say.

[eternal talon]

the geothermal shit

[solar nova]

Sounds like the Artus / Schaeffer logs?

[eternal talon]

schaeffer?

[solar nova]

That's way later, when they start nearing 2km depth.

[finite vine]

yikes

[eternal talon]

what are you saying

[solar nova]

Schaffer is a person.

[eternal talon]

I KNOW THAT

THATS NOT WHAT i mean

hold on hold on

[graceful lotus]

[eternal talon]

i am mentally disabled, i'm trying to work through this

so

they dig

[solar nova]

His identity is irrelevant, I'm saying it sounds to me like the log you're talking about is a conversation between Artus and Schaeffer.

[eternal talon]

what?

[solar nova]

If so, that log happens way later.

[eternal talon]

post it please?

so i can see if it is the log i am remembering

[solar nova]

../BIOCOM
illicit communication
meta3.date_stamp(531008.092419)
concern begins/..
 
D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.C067.tier4.j_schaeffer.flagged
 
Shafe,
 
I’ve processed the environmental data collected over the last 3 years, and there is no record of anything like we’re seeing now. The temperature readings are off the charts – way in excess of the variance we expected at 2000. The cooling system is being pushed past max just to keep the lowest levels tolerable. There is constant seismic activity that the geos assure me does not mean the entire complex is about to collapse, but when you’re in one of those tremors that doesn’t bring me any comfort.
 
I don’t know where your supervisors are posted at the moment, but if you have any work orders below 2000+ you might want to tell them to start writing their letters home.
 
I’m installing the system that I told you about for our mutual boss. I’m going deep on this one – and it is really, really uncomfortable down here. This place makes you want to scratch the inside of your head. 

Honestly, I think they’re hitting some kind of geothermal mass but everyone’s too afraid to say anything. If our probes are closing in on a geological anomaly with unknown properties, I feel like energy spikes, temperature fluctuations, seismic activity, and a shared sense of doom and fear would be a big tell, right?
 
It’s all very well prioritizing emergency procedure education, but isn’t it better to just avoid the emergency in the first place?
 
Hit me back.
 
Artus
 
../BIOCOM
personnel files updated
alert system flagged
concern ends/..

[eternal talon]

yes yes that one!

when is that

is that before they, so when do they..

so what happens first

[finite vine]

october 8th, 2053

[eternal talon]

that leads them down to the egg

or to find the egg

in the first place

[solar nova]

Deep scan, and seeing the egg as a physical structure, is first.

[eternal talon]

okay

[graceful lotus]

wiat what egg

[eternal talon]

so they are mining for redium

find this new metal

do some deep scans,

[analog frigate]

another name for the meteorite

[graceful lotus]

ah

[subtle verge]

"The Egg" is the meteorite.

[eternal talon]

and find this wierd fuck off egg thing of metal

[graceful lotus]

the 2k m one?

[analog frigate]

together with fossil

[eternal talon]

or whatever

[analog frigate]

yes

[subtle verge]

Yep yep.

[graceful lotus]

okay thanks

keep going

[eternal talon]

so

[solar nova]

Yep.

[eternal talon]

they dig down

what's next

[finite vine]

we honestly dont know. according to this log, they are at around 2km deep, because of the odd temp readings.

[eternal talon]

is this around the first part they start getting attacked by sleepers in the caves?

i know they broke like 7 giant drill bits just getting to it..

and people starting going insane

[solar nova]

So, something I forgot before DeepScan, give me a second to confirm the timeline...

[finite vine]

no, they were already getting attacked by sleepers. (i think)

[eternal talon]

when

exactly when

when they first did the deep scans?

or before even that?

[finite vine]

before the log above. in the Schaeffer illicit communication log, he says "KSO's were holding sleepers off left and right" suggesting that sleepers have been a problem for awhile.

[sacred moon]

was that before or after the egg

^^

[finite vine]

we dont know

[eternal talon]

please slow down

[solar nova]

Real quick, can someone tell me when Lockwood is writing about taking over at Garganta?

[eternal talon]

i'm getting so confused

[solar nova]

Which log is that?

[eternal talon]

so what?

when

[analog frigate]

the sleepers were after the reached it

[eternal talon]

problem since before what?

[finite vine]

actually, we dont really know

[eternal talon]

since they started digging for eridium?

that makes even LESS SENSE

[subtle verge]

One moment, please.

[eternal talon]

what? taking over garganta? my head hurts...

[analog frigate]

we do since there was no mention of anything until after the log about digging down to 2k. iirc even NAM-V was never mentioned until that

[finite vine]

NAM-V was mentioned way before that

[eternal talon]

this lore is impossible to understand

i give up

[subtle verge]

Sender: Dean Lockwood A074
Receiver: SMC.ALL
Date: November 14th 2053
Subject:    Changes

I will be serving as the Project Manager for Santonian Mining Company until a suitable replacement can be found. The tragic loss of Andrew has affected us all deeply, but we must carry on regardless. That is what he would have wanted.

I will attempt to make myself available to you as much as possible but would appreciate patience as we make changes in response to the tragic events of October 13th. 

We will be adjusting security procedures to make sure we are not caught off guard in the future, including restricting access to some areas. This is for your own safety. The energy surge created multiple blast tunnels to the surface. These tunnels are dangerous and unpredictable, so we will be sealing them off while inspections and repairs are conducted. Should you find a shaft that has not been surveyed, make sure you inform a Project Insight coordinator so the area can be secured and sealed off. 

We will be installing additional security doors throughout Garganta to isolate and contain any future events. There may be some teething problems getting access to certain areas as we integrate the new system, so bear with us. If you need access to a restricted area, contact a security officer. 

Do NOT, under any circumstances, enter a restricted area without clearance. I cannot stress this enough.

A memorial service for Andrew will be held once social interaction limitations have been relaxed. We are following the recommended WHO guidelines to combat NAM-V even here in Garganta, the safest place you could be right now. As a reminder, we should all do our bit:```

- Wash hands regularly (20 seconds using anti-bacterial soap or bleach)
- Practice Social Distancing (6 -10 feet whenever possible)
- Inform medical staff of any unreported cases of NAM-V within the facility

In response to multiple complaints about wearing masks, we are not mandating their use. If you elect not to wear a mask, please exercise common sense (cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze, keep a reasonable distance etc.) Your choice in this matter will be recorded in your personnel file.

Dean Lockwood
Acting Project Manager

@solar nova

[solar nova]

So either before they scan for the Cretasium deposit, or possibly sometime after it, Project Insight takes over at Garganta as the lead in the direction of Santonian's work.

[eternal talon]

what is project insight

[solar nova]

This might be the wrong one, I can't find the one I could have sworn exists.

[eternal talon]

jesus christ

[solar nova]

Project Insight is essentially just a research subsidiary for Dreyfus Industries.

[eternal talon]

what is dreyfus

[amber field]

read the logs lost

[solar nova]

Dreyfus Industries is Santonian's parent company.

[eternal talon]

I HAVE AND YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THIS HARD FOR ME

[eternal talon]

THANK YOU

[amber field]

If you did, you better do it again

[eternal talon]

please stop

[solar nova]

They're a huge corporation, and they're funding Santonian to make big money.

[eternal talon]

i don't even remember where i was..

[sacred moon]

so, hold on. Let's get this in order in bulletpoints real quick, because thanks to questions and such this chat has been going brrr for a while. Most of this has been iterated in the timeline and such already, but regardless.

They find iridium --> built garganta --> start digging
--> Some workers/employees give out sensitive info to outside, security company gets hired due to them quite literally going "you need us, we already found errors in your security"
--> They find out it's not all iridium but has Cretasium-77a
--> Somewhere around this time Project Insight takes over
--> Sleepers start attacking them after they start breaching the egg(?)
--> At some point in the future, energy blasts happen that seem to blast all the way to the surface, where our prisoners drop and everything's just... gone

I know I skipped parts, but are these information pieces at least in the correct order?

[eternal talon]

THIS IS THE SHIT I NEED TO DO/THAT I'M TRYING TO DO/MAKE

[sacred moon]

yesn't

it's mostly in the timeline, honestly

I'm just reiterating bc I can't perfectly remember the lore

[analog frigate]

and in the top pin

[eternal talon]

but more in detail than that

hold on hold on HOLD ON

[sacred moon]

like, I get that you want to put it all in some easy paragraphs, but if you want one big timeline it's gonna be potentially hundreds of events, hundreds of points to write down

not 1-2 paragraphs

[eternal talon]

i gotta find all the way back to where i was

[analog frigate]

it's an introduction and faq

[solar nova]

Project Insight starts running the show and the "egg" is discovered (huge Cretasium deposit).

[subtle verge]

Are you potentially referencing the log that he sends to all Garganta employees about restricting free access to certain areas?

[analog frigate]

not the entire thing in detail

[solar nova]

Might be?

[analog frigate]

if you want the entire thing in detail, look at chase's timeline

[solar nova]

That sounds familiar

[sacred moon]

I know

[analog frigate]

it's missing some r6 logs last i checked

[eternal talon]

too many people typing... 😭
where was the sleepers?

what the

i don't understand

[sacred moon]

yea, we were at the questino of "when did the sleepers start existing"

[eternal talon]

no

[sacred moon]

well, badly worded, but when was "first contact"

[subtle verge]

EBST-4TG-6SS-E.LOG

alias:ext_server.512_ciph.A074.tier1-2-3-4-5.flagged.

To all Garganta employees,

There will be changes coming in the next few months as Project Insight
assumes control of all deep level operations. We will be restricting free
access throughout the facility to personnel with Tier 5 security clearance
only.

All work carried out in restricted areas will follow a strict "nothing-in-
nothing-out" policy. Tools and equipment required for fabricating, repairs,
installation, maintenance, or any other work will need to be pre-approved and screened. All personnel below Tier 5 with clearance papers will be scanned
and searched on entry to the lower levels, and on exit.

There will be extensive construction works going on in the restricted zone.
If you have been assigned to a work crew within a restricted area, please
contact your sub-level administrator for further guidance on policy and
movement through T5 areas. There will be a no tolerance enforcement policy,
so you are expected to understand and follow the rules. These measures are
being taken to ensure you continue to have a safe and productive work
environment.

All request forms, security documents and inquiries should be directed to our operations center.

Thank you for the warm welcome we have received so far. If you have any
questions or concerns, our door is always open.

Dean Lockwood
Project Insight Director of Operations```

[analog frigate]

@solar nova did chase give you the timeline?

[eternal talon]

yes

[solar nova]

Yes (?)

[analog frigate]

so technically has?

[solar nova]

THANK YOU, is there no date on this?

That would explain why I can't find it.

[subtle verge]

Unfortunately not. 😦

[solar nova]

Still, based on other logs

This was probably roughly just before DeepScan.

[analog frigate]

you can look on the complex archives server

[subtle verge]

It's the very bottom log in the database.

[eternal talon]

i need like 4 hours to go point by point

but this chat log is getting so full of fluff..

not even half-way through

is drefus industries the company that owns basically everything on earth?

[solar nova]

We don't know the details of sleepers 100%, but we do know that as they dig up Cretasium they've run into NAM-V (a virus) and at some point parasites that carry NAM-V. This happened very early, April 2052.

[sacred moon]

As the others have said, try reading through all of the logs bit by bit. It's going to take hours to read and understand everything, with questions or without them.

[solar nova]

They're very large, but probably not literally everything.

[sacred moon]

so they have dealt with sleepers for years with their security forces, whilst earth was getting wiped by the virus???

damn

[eternal talon]

what year does smc start going after eredium?

[solar nova]

2049

[eternal talon]

so "Drefus industries. Owns like 70% of the companies on earth by the time of 2049." would be correct statement?

[solar nova]

Probably.

The conspiracy radio is our only source on that info.

Think of Dreyfus Industries as Google IRL.

[eternal talon]

is it spelt eredium?

[solar nova]

Iridium.

[analog frigate]

iridium

[subtle verge]

Iridium

[eternal talon]

does drefus own kds?

[solar nova]

Negative.

[eternal talon]

what's it's full name? kovak defense... what?

[subtle verge]

Services.

[eternal talon]

is it like a private military, or what is it?

[solar nova]

Yes, exactly.

[analog frigate]

it's a pmc

[subtle verge]

PMCs (private military contractor), yes.

[finite vine]

I thought dreyfus was the parent company of KDS?

[analog frigate]

no

smc

[finite vine]

I thought dreyfus owned both

[solar nova]

Nope.

[finite vine]

ah ok

[analog frigate]

only known to own santonian

maybe nyxos but i'm not sure

[solar nova]

They hire KDS, but they're still separate organizations.

I think they hire Nyxos as well.

[analog frigate]

yeah

smc hires nyxos

since it's an industrial giant

and has the tools they need

[eternal talon]

what does iridum do?

[analog frigate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium

[solar nova]

In-universe, it's in high demand for use in electronics.

Which means it's worth a fuckton of money.

[finite vine]

I have been reading the logs around the time of October 13th, 2053 and I cant tell if miners broke into the outside of the egg, or if they were already inside the egg and broke into something else that caused the energy surges? Anyone know?

[analog frigate]

even more in the gtfo universe

since prices apparently raised to something like 30k usd per gram iirc

[amber field]

>>EBDT FRAGMENT 02BE2 START
>>ENC: Mambo Media Services news wire
Iridium, SMC, Price Skyrockets
Report from Torsten Kass, Financial Correspondent, WNA
March 23rd 2049

The price for Iridium surged to an all-time high of $2863 per troy oz on Friday in the final hours of trading after Zoltran Data Storage announced they will be transitioning hardware over to TurboByte Hard Drives. TurboByte uses Iridium alloy in their 5 Petabyte system, which will become Zombo’s primary storage hardware in all of their data facilities.

In response to the price climb, shares in Santonian Mining Company (SMC) also rose by 8% in a single day. Santonian are the market leaders in rare mineral and metal farming, and have seen steadily increasing market value in the last decade due to massive infrastructure investment from their parent company,  Dreyfus Industries. A stock split is expected to be announced at the end of the fiscal year.

The surge is expected to continue in the next few months as the new 16k broadcast standard comes into effect in North America and Western Europe. IRLED displays that meet the criteria will be hitting the market in the next few months, using tech based on Iridium alloys. Iridium is a BUY.

[solar nova]

^ The main takeaway here is that there are market forces at play that are making Iridium very expensive to sell.

[gleaming leaf]

Does anyone possible know what Shaffer saw here, it later talks to him. Pretty scary and interesting new enemy in the future perhaps? ----------------------------- There’s something else in here. I hear it, footsteps in the tunnels. In the walls, I hear it. Growling but not… not like one of the creatures. It… it tries to talk. To anyone, to no one but it’s using a voice that… that doesn’t belong to it. The words make no sense. I… I saw it once: White, blue veins under paper skin, so clean. Almost human; almost. It was covered in dust or maybe a powder or ashes. From a… from a fire… Yes… a fire. I remember the fires. Outside from the person who was here before me or is that a dream? A mountain of bodies on fire. Smoke blocking the sun. The dead and twisted… [sobbing] This is my fault. It’s all my fault! There is more than one. At first, when the creatures heard it, they tore it apart. As they ripped into it, it kept talking; trying to speak. It had no fear. Now the creatures don’t see it anymore, it walks through them like a ghost. If it has no fear it can’t be one of us. Next time I see it, I’m going to kill it.

[eternal talon]

gargata? spelt how pls

[solar nova]

Garganta.

[sacred moon]

The "mimic"

we're not sure what it is exactly

[subtle verge]

That's what we've dubbed 'The Mimic' -- you can hear what it sounds like in a voice log on the wiki. 🙂

[sacred moon]

^

[solar nova]

Iirc, it's "throat" in Spanish.

[eternal talon]

what year smc starts boring the deep mine?

[amber field]

you know which one? I've read about it but never heard the actual log

[gleaming leaf]

NICE so kool

[subtle verge]

One moment, I'll link it.,

[amber field]

tyvm!

[solar nova]

2050

[eternal talon]

so after that,

how does kovac get involved?

[solar nova]

Do you want the logs for that, specifically?

[subtle verge]

gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs#SC3-1BG-98

[eternal talon]

all realistically

well first,

let's cover prisoners

so what is the "program"

[subtle verge]

gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs#SC3-1BG-98

Here's the audio log for you, as well!

[solar nova]

KDS higher-ups get wind of the crazy shit at Garganta, and start pestering Davies about "you haven't updated your Windows machine in the past 48 hours."

[amber field]

holy shit man

[eternal talon]

what's the project with the hsus

[amber field]

that audio log is nuts

[subtle verge]

Project Legion.

[eternal talon]

and is that before, or after smc setup garganta?

so, what was project legion designed for?

[subtle verge]

Assumptions are well before, going by logs.

[solar nova]

The Legion Project is something KDS is doing on their end to remove people's memories and brainwash them into being the ideal soldiers.

[solar nova]

They are operational by 2047.

[eternal talon]

so

let's cover the squad

one by one,

what did they do and why did they join legion?

just 1-2 sentinces

making a pdf

[graceful lotus]

hackett blackmailed davies

it's also on the gtfo wifi I think

[analog frigate]

no

[graceful lotus]

I mean official website

[analog frigate]

hackett volunteered

[graceful lotus]

wait no davies

wait

fuck

ugh my brain

[eternal talon]

ONE BY ONE

[analog frigate]

bishop blackmailed the ceo of kds

[eternal talon]

IMPORTANT MUST BE CONFIRMED LORE

TY DARAXUS

[solar nova]

Of Dreyfus*

[eternal talon]

who was bishop before being put into the program

ok

[analog frigate]

hackett volunteered after he found that he didn't mind killing people

[eternal talon]

so dreyfus, bishop was an employee.

why was he blackmailing the ceo?

also, where did they send him to try and get rid of him?

he was there for like, a year right, but came back alive?

[analog frigate]

civil war in venezuela

[eternal talon]

so, did dreyfus pawn him off to kds, or what was with that?

and why was he blackmailing the ceo

[finite vine]

Does anyone know the depth of the top/ apex of "the egg"?

[analog frigate]

2000 meters

[finite vine]

are u sure?

[analog frigate]

yes

[finite vine]

was there a log or something that said that

[analog frigate]

approx that

[eternal talon]

anyone?

[analog frigate]

yes

deepscan

[finite vine]

can u link it

oh

[analog frigate]

and then another one confirming depth iirc

[eternal talon]

know what the ceo did that bishop found out about?

[finite vine]

deepscan does not have a depth indication

[analog frigate]

ah

[finite vine]

just dimensions of the egg

[analog frigate]

then it's another one where they mentioned that they need to take precautions below 2k

[finite vine]

because I have a theory and it might be correct if the egg starts at a depth above 2k meters

[finite vine]

yea because of geothermal heating right?

[analog frigate]

and also another one which i don't remember exactly that had questioning about depth at 2k and below

[analog frigate]

mainly sleepers

[sacred moon]

he what

[finite vine]

can you link the logs you are talking about if possible

[analog frigate]

i'll try when i can

[eternal talon]

hello? pls help me

[subtle verge]

Frank Bishop: Worked for Santonian, posted to Valencia Office by Jansen before the civil war broke out, has been held hostage for 3 years before KDS showed up. Bishop "had some info he (Davies) may be interested in and Davies didn't like that he had it." All records of Bishop were wiped out, he's essentially a "ghost" and doesn't exist.

[finite vine]

no one knows. yes dreyfus gave bishop to kds

[eternal talon]

ty

[eternal talon]

can you do exactly that for the other 3? that was PERFECT thank you so much

[analog frigate]

iirc there was a copypasta of sorts for the 4 of them

there

[finite vine]

we need more logs about the egg, the inner, and the fossil.

honestly kinda hard to piece together with what we have rn

[finite vine]

listen to their audio logs from r5

has a lot of info about the characters

[eternal talon]

yeah but his post is perfect

as quick summaries for the 4

wherever he found that

or if he wrote it himself

[solar nova]

Woods: Disturbed war veteran from the civil war in Venezuela, was a prisoner of war who escaped. Shot up a military base for claimed religious reasons. Inducted into Legion as a (presumably) death row inmate.

Dauda: Guilty of something nefarious, living in Africa. Is recruited by Project Insight in exchange for them hiding Dauda's past. When sleepers overrun the complex, Dauda locks himself in an HSU voluntarily to avoid being killed. This HSU eventually makes it into the WRDN's hands.

Hackett: As a child, he kills his brother in a hunting accident. He eventually ends up working for Kovac as a mercenary, where he finds he's lost his empathy. He volunteers for the Legion, seeing it as an opportunity to start over.

Bishop: Worked as an IT guy for Santonian. He installs spyware on company hardware at some point and uses this to obtain sensitive information that he can use to blackmail his boss, Janson Davies. Later on, Janson Davies is promoted to the CEO of Dreyfus Industries, and he uses his new influence to get Bishop sent to Venezuela right before civil war breaks out in the hopes that Bishop will be killed in the conflict. Bishop survives, and is rescued by Kovac. However, once Kovac learns who Bishop is, they force him to join the Legion (presumably conspiring with Davies).

Oh, someone already did it, lol.

[eternal talon]

thank you!

[analog frigate]

also about hackett - killed his mom and also iirc he was the one behind a lot of people getting killed in venezuela and he volunteered for legion after that since he saw that he had no issues with killing people

[eternal talon]

so santonian start digging, what happens first

they find eridium, and the new metal?

what was it?

[solar nova]

They scan for Iridium and find it. They start digging, as they dig they come across Cretasium, and also realize the Iridium deposit they were aiming for is almost entirely made of Cretasium instead.

[dim scroll]

Bamboozled

[eternal talon]

creatasium.. what?

element or whatever, full name?

[subtle verge]

Cretasium 77a

[eternal talon]

ty

what does it to btw

like, it's properties

[solar nova]

Extremely strong, we know very little else (and it seems that Santonian couldn't figure out much about it either).

[analog frigate]

yeah

besides being extremely strong, nothing more known

[finite vine]

the artifacts like the MWP are actually made out of it, which makes it a prime research candidate for project insight.

[analog frigate]

no

[finite vine]

?

[analog frigate]

those are made by the crystals

[eternal talon]

hold on for a sec

what's project insight?

[finite vine]

i just assumed that the crystals are made out of cretasium

[solar nova]

I don't think we know what the MWP is made of

[analog frigate]

yeah but they don't match up

[solar nova]

We just know it doesn't cause Cretasium to disappear like other things it comes into contact with.

[analog frigate]

i think the ability to suddenly disappear/teleport when you touch them would be noticed for cretasium

[finite vine]

I gotta check Dr. Stokes audio logs

[analog frigate]

at least while they were mining it and in the analysis

[eternal talon]

so what else is going on at this time?

kovac getting involved for security

and what stuff else?

gelogical stuff? sleepers? i need relavant stuff to put here

[solar nova]

Project Insight begins to head the operations at Garganta around this time.

[eternal talon]

what is insight

[solar nova]

Project Insight is a research division that works under Dreyfus Industries.

[eternal talon]

so insight.. does what?

[solar nova]

They're designated as the new lead since the goal is no longer to mine Iridium but to study the new materials and artifacts found at Garganta.

[solar nova]

Research, studying materials, studying anything worth studying.

The laboratory and datacenter environments in-game are facilities for Project Insight.

[eternal talon]

about what year does most of the labs, offices, and stuff in garganta start being built for the study of this stuff?

[solar nova]

Most likely 2052.

This is when they commit to studying the "egg" (also known as "the fossil")

[toxic blaze]

Anyone here know a good YT vid that has everything from R001 to R005?

[solar nova]

Check the lore database, your best bet I think.

[eternal talon]

so when do the sleeper attacks start?

when they go dig down to it?

[solar nova]

https://www.notion.so/GTFO-Lore-Database-94aac69799e14948b3f9f418761c6cd0

[analog frigate]

@white moth has good videos on them

[solar nova]

NAM-V starts to infect people at around the same time, 2052.

[toxic blaze]

Wait

It's Nam-V

Not NamVI?

[solar nova]

NAM-V

[subtle verge]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIN12HX-ebk&t

[toxic blaze]

Welp i might have told multiple people that it's NamVi

[subtle verge]

He's currently working on R5.

[analog frigate]

R6*

[subtle verge]

He doesn't have a video for R5 atm.

[analog frigate]

oh

[eternal talon]

what is the hammerstein collection?

[subtle verge]

That vid is 1-4.

[toxic blaze]

I wanna deeper into the lore cause logs I'm reading from the recent missions are too interesting

[analog frigate]

probably the storm cut him off from posting that as well

[analog frigate]

i suggest reading the top pin, it's a nice introduction to the lore

[solar nova]

The Hammerstein Collection is the name for the artifacts collected by Project Insight retrieved from the fossil.

[subtle verge]

Check the pins! We have a fairly decent FAQ/TL;DR. Also check out the Wiki & the timeline that Ray posted for all of the available logs.

[tall anchor]

named by the titular Dr. Hammerstein

[analog frigate]

lilliana hii

[finite vine]

I just thought of something while listening to the audio logs from Dr. Stokes.

She says that the Data Blocks and the Matter Wave Projector are actually used in conjunction with each other. She also says that the Data Blocks contain Navigation data... My questions is:

If the Matter Wave Projector and the Data Blocks are used together to travel somewhere, specifically a destination instantiated through the Data Blocks, then it doesn't make sense for the origin of the meteor to be Planet Alpha, instead it makes sense for Planet Alpha to be the Destination of the meteor.

So whatever was using the Matter Wave Projector and the Data Blocks inside the meteor, didn't actually come from Planet Alpha, Planet Alpha was the destination for the Meteor (Using the MWP and the Data Blocks). And while traveling to Planet Alpha, the Meteor (or presumably a large spacecraft) crashed into earth.

[toxic blaze]

Is it still spoilers that we TP to ||Mars||?

[analog frigate]

yeah he kinda just took them and called them the hammerstein collection

[analog frigate]

there in no need to spoiler things here

people should expect spoilers

[tall anchor]

also it’s not mars

[analog frigate]

also it's not mars

[subtle verge]

We don't go to Mars, and no need for spoilers!

[analog frigate]

it's what we call red alpha

[toxic blaze]

Then wtf is that planet?

Ah

[analog frigate]

a completely different planet which we still don't know where it is

[subtle verge]

It's a coined term, so keep that in mind with a grain of salt.

[subtle verge]

I actually do like this little idea. 🤔

[tall anchor]

There is no relevance bar the name to the failed mars mission

[toxic blaze]

Anyone have info what happened to the Radio station?

[analog frigate]

state of truth?

[toxic blaze]

Yea

It's present or past?

[subtle verge]

We assume that the guy running it, along with the majority of humanity, is gone due to NAM-V.

[solar nova]

Yet more evidence that calling it "Red Alpha" is a massive misnomer that is confusing people.

[subtle verge]

Very much in the past.

[finite vine]

yea same. everyone says that the mwp came from Planet Alpha, but that is probably not the case.

[subtle verge]

We assume that we're in 2065-2070.

Could be a little bit later, but not much before.

[analog frigate]

max 30 years into the future, looking at corrosion

[toxic blaze]

Might be odd but anyone wanna help me in C1?

[solar nova]

Try LFG.

[analog frigate]

.lfg

wait no

what was the command

[solar nova]

.t

[analog frigate]

ah

[analog frigate]

.t lfg

[ruby lake]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[toxic blaze]

Any hidden terminal commands?

[analog frigate]

they can't be hidden

[subtle verge]

Negative.

[solar nova]

Besides LOGS, naw.

[toxic blaze]

Then how do we listen to audio logs then?

[solar nova]

LOGS

[toxic blaze]

I see, I'm dum

[solar nova]

READ [full log file name]

[subtle verge]

The Wiki & Timeline have them.

Unless you want the full immersion.

[analog frigate]

the timeline still doesn't have some

but duck made sure to have all of them in the wiki

[solar nova]

They're all there?

Lore database is up to date in terms of logs.

[analog frigate]

oh sorry then, haven't checked recently

[tall anchor]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline

this has everything for sure, but not as cool as the other one

[solar nova]

If it's not, somebody should tell me.

[toxic blaze]

I do wonder

[finite vine]

I think the MVP might be made out of cretasium, or at least part of it. In the Dr. Stokes audio log #3, she says "The silicon resin does temporarily block the jump defect, so that has helped. It decays pretty quickly as the Cretasium eats through it, but it means we actually can touch the artifacts at least." This suggests that the artifacts, or at least part of them, are made from Cretasium.

[toxic blaze]

Do dead prisoners become sleepers?

[analog frigate]

good observation

[eternal talon]

not zombles

[toxic blaze]

And how do they mutate to become feelers and those giant things

[subtle verge]

It's not zombie-ism. Think more like cordyceps and parasitoids.

[white moth]

Who @ me

[subtle verge]

Even then, we don't have solid explanations for exactly what happens.

[toxic blaze]

he did

[solar nova]

It's possible, but we know sleepers can be formed independent of zombification, it seems more likely that sleepers can eat people.

[finite vine]

when's the new vid dropping?

[white moth]

When my pc stop being gross

It’s not working

I have it all apart at home

[analog frigate]

sad

[tall anchor]

yeah and bone structure is gone so the parasite has to somehow replace the material

[white moth]

I was rendering and then blue screen

[finite vine]

damn that sucks

[subtle verge]

Sadge

[white moth]

Ik

I’m hoping nothing got deleted

I’m dusting it all and as it turns out it was my shitty 12$ Wifi adapter that I had plugged in that shorted and literally blew up

The whole pcie part that goes into the pc is black and fried

[toxic blaze]

Bye PCIe Slot

[white moth]

So I bought a new MB

Cause this one was bottle necking me by having 2 ram slots

Since I got an I9

[toxic blaze]

I suggest not using any of the blown parts anymore

[white moth]

So now I’m gonna have 64gb of ram and a Asus Hero XI or something like that

[white moth]

Reason why I’m getting new mother board xd

[toxic blaze]

I hope it goes well

[white moth]

Same

I had the video done

Which is sad

[toxic blaze]

Is Prof. Scaler here?

[toxic blaze]

Oof

[subtle verge]

@toxic blaze Biggest thing we can recommend here: read the logs and a lot of your baseline questions will pretty much be answered. My favorite thing after I read them all: I had so many harder questions that lead to the creation of theories.

You can expect to spend about a solid 2 hours reading and listening to the logs if/when you have the time!

[analog frigate]

haven't see him in a long time

[white moth]

Yeah neither have I

[subtle verge]

I miss that guy.

[analog frigate]

yeah

[toxic blaze]

I'm currently doing that

[harsh saffron]

he uploaded a Q&A video yesterday (Scaler)

[white moth]

I’m gonna work on a new video as soon as my pc comes back to life and I can upload the current one

I’m gonna need some help trying to make a character summary

Going into detail of the prisoners and scientists and the warden

If anyone wants to help I’ll be back when my mb comes in and I’ll be asking

[toxic blaze]

What kind of help?

[white moth]

Like just getting info on each character

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate @subtle verge @finite vine @tall anchor @solar nova this is what i got, how is this?

[toxic blaze]

I see

[subtle verge]

@white moth

[toxic blaze]

I really wanna lend my voice in reading logs

[white moth]

If you want a good catchup I have a decent video all though it doesn’t go into detail about the virus too much

[eternal talon]

can we like work with this, into a proper doc?

[toxic blaze]

But I don't wanna make a YT channel

[white moth]

Where douda

[white moth]

What

[eternal talon]

not talking to you?

[white moth]

Oh?

Didn’t seem like you addressed anyone 😳

[eternal talon]

oops

[tall anchor]

most of it seems good

[eternal talon]

i @ ed like 5 people

[subtle verge]

It's great for a personal use document, I think, but all of the important bits are pretty much already stated in the FAQ.

[eternal talon]

that doesn't cover everything though

[subtle verge]

The FAQ isn't meant to cover everything.

[eternal talon]

this i was

[toxic blaze]

Lowket wish DC has audioclips

[eternal talon]

basically an all-in one "for dummies" doc

[edgy kraken]

@eternal talon you @edgy kraken who

[eternal talon]

because it's what i would ned

[solar nova]

Looks about right to me.

[eternal talon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

sorry ed

[analog frigate]

also kinda jumps through it and not really much about some important parts

[eternal talon]

well please edit it. i'm not good at this kind of deep lore thing

i'm just trying to piece it together in a way i'd understand as i'm writing it rn

[subtle verge]

Oh, I see. Uhhh I personally wouldn't recommend sharing that with newer users, as the language used isn't necessarily professional or concise.

It's great for explaining it to a friend, I guess?

[analog frigate]

well it's pretty good as a personal document to keep track of lore for yourself

[subtle verge]

^^^

[eternal talon]

well obviously not professional, i literally just wrote it like 5 minutes ago

[analog frigate]

not the most fitting for introducing lore to people

[eternal talon]

that's what im saying

can you help me edit it to be do that.

to be an expanded of the faq thing in pins

so people don't have to spend 5 hours reading logs and listening to audio logs

to piece it together themselves

it's like a timeline and an faq in one

[analog frigate]

the point of listening to audio logs and reading text ones is for them to personally understand the lore

then ask questions to be cleared up

sure, we can write a 15 page report on it

[eternal talon]

well yeah, but i can't proccess that at all or put it in an order that makes sense

and if i can't then i'd reckon some can't either

[analog frigate]

well that's for you

[toxic blaze]

Um

Uh

[eternal talon]

also i literally just stopped writing at the end because i don't remember what happens

next in the lore

the doc abruptly stops

[toxic blaze]

May I lend my voice if you guys do that?

[subtle verge]

My point being: if you want to use that as a personal document, go on ahead. I personally believe that it's better to let others discover the lore for themselves instead of reading a "Here's Everything" report. It allows the reader to get really involved and in-depth with the lore on a personal level.

[analog frigate]

i don't think we will do it in like an audio book style, but if there is a need for someone reading something (like a narrated vid) we'll definitely ping you

[subtle verge]

That being said, if you want to share that with someone who is looking for that exact kind of report, by all means go for it.

[eternal talon]

so you guys won't help me?

[toxic blaze]

A little contradiction to that..... I don't have time cause I have multi days shifts

Not everyone has time these times to read that much

[eternal talon]

i just also don't have the braincells to think that much

an all in one is very helpful to some people

would you rather say "go read the logs" if someone wants to know the lore? or send them a quick pdf explaining everything

they accomplish the same thing, yes

but one is by far easier

so i'll ask again, can someone please help me write and format this doc?

[solar nova]

If I did, tbh I'd probably just write up a summary of my own w/ some sort of organizational structure I prefer.

[eternal talon]

for the kind of people that need that sort of thing?

[subtle verge]

Hence why we made the FAQ; it's a quick and easy write-up for all of the important information on a basic level, and should they have any further questions that it doesn't cover, they can ask. If you want to take the charge on making the full write-up, you're more than welcome to! On a personal level, I just don't care to do that kind of thing; it's why I've not personally done something like that.

[eternal talon]

well i'll need help with info at least

abouts what time does the warden go active?

[analog frigate]

we don't know

[eternal talon]

like year or anything

just give me a rough date

[analog frigate]

there isn't

[eternal talon]

well, year

when do our prisoners start doing stuff?

[analog frigate]

unknown

[subtle verge]

There's no reference to when it was implemented outside of the log about the KSO, and even then I don't think it was dated.

[eternal talon]

i just need a date for this line "These 4 prisonners end up in the hands of the Warden by _____"

[subtle verge]

It might be, I'd have to look.

[subtle verge]

That's the thing, we don't know.

There's no reference point.

[eternal talon]

we don't know what year the game takes place in?

[subtle verge]

We have an estimate.

[eternal talon]

these seems like a really simple thing

[subtle verge]

But we don't have confirmed.

[eternal talon]

okay what's the estimate

[subtle verge]

Between 2065-2070.

[eternal talon]

by sometime between 2065-2070

[analog frigate]

not for sure

[eternal talon]

These four prisonners end up in the hands of the Warden by sometime between 2065-2070.

[analog frigate]

that's a very very rough estimate

[eternal talon]

aye aye aye

[toxic blaze]

We do have prison ages though right?

[eternal talon]

hsu is basically cryostasis

[analog frigate]

depends what you count as age

it's kinda like rimworld age

[toxic blaze]

Birth year

[analog frigate]

unknown

[toxic blaze]

I see

[analog frigate]

data was supposedly wiped iirc

[hot burrow]

Some people suggested that bishop is in he forty’s

[subtle verge]

I would make that something like: "These four prisoners end up in the hands of the Warden, through a very rough estimate, between the years 2065-2070."

Oops, wrong reply.

[eternal talon]

well, let's start with this i suppose

[harsh saffron]

only birth date we know is bishop in 2001

I think

[analog frigate]

makes sense to be early 2000s

[toxic blaze]

That would make him...... 70-ish?

[hot burrow]

Bishop join the company around 2017

[eternal talon]

any changes, statements, or anything about this hunk of text?

i want to make it as lore accurate as i possibly can

and professionally

[subtle verge]

If Bishop were born in 2001, he'd be 15-16 by the time he's working for SMC.

[harsh saffron]

thats an internship so I guess that makes sense?

[subtle verge]

If you go by years, he's probably closer to 80. However, his body is probably closer to his mid 40s.

[toxic blaze]

I guess so

[subtle verge]

The HSUs put the body in to a "cell death" state, so his body wouldn't age during the time he's in the HSU.

[toxic blaze]

HSU must be really good except for the memory loss

Cell death?

[tall anchor]

No

Not how cell death works

[hot burrow]

Probably like in space movies they go into cryo sleep

[dim scroll]

Nah

it's not that far

[tall anchor]

It puts their cells into stasis, where they are frozen

Trust me, if it was cell death, we’d be a literal pile of goop within a few hours

Apoptosis doesn’t work like that

[subtle verge]

Okay, yeah, sorry -- bad terminology on my end.

[analog frigate]

my biology is bad, but wouldn't the entire cell collapse on itself when cell death occurs?

[tall anchor]

nope

[subtle verge]

is called Hydrostasis - a process that allows humans to be held in a
state of suspended animation for weeks, months, even years at a time
without suffering any ill-effects. The nuts and bolts of the process
are a closely guarded secret, but sources speculate that the procedure
likely uses a synthetic amniotic fluid to sustain and protect the body
while it is in an induced comatose state. In this state, the body is -
for all intents and purposes - dead, but no cell deterioration or
physical decay occurs. For the human in Hydrostasis, the heart, and
time, stops.```

[tall anchor]

Apoptosis / Cell death is so extremely managed that it’s like taking the worlds most difficult lego set, and doing the instructions backward, while there’s fifty semi-specific bags that need pieces, and they all have to go very specifically in locations around your house. And the lego set has to do it by itself.

[dim scroll]

"without suffering any ill-effects" sussy part

[tall anchor]

Well, we know it’s not completely frozen because there’s neuron pathways that die

[subtle verge]

Which would check out with real world science, as the brain still has to work even during extreme scenarios of torpor.

[eternal talon]

is it iridum or iridium

[subtle verge]

Iridium

[tall anchor]

what hydrostasis is really doing is slowing the body down to being almost frozen, probably by bringing it really close to 0K

Which again, would need a specific amniotic fluid that would be able to stand the temperature change

[eternal talon]

how is this? anything i should add?

currently working on streamlining and fixing spelling and grammatical mistakes

anything i should add?

[tall anchor]

It feels like a bit of a Kovak shortcut, because you could theoretically stimulate the brain like they did with agents of sheild

[subtle verge]

I don't know the reference, but I'll take your word for it.

[subtle verge]

It's a good start!

[tall anchor]

they zapped phil coulson’s brain when they brought him back when he was stabbed by loki in the first avengers

[white moth]

Bouta commission Corrodor crew (I can’t remember their name) to do a GTfO live action movie of A1

[toxic blaze]

As someone who studies Psychology I might have some insight as to why they don't have memories

But take with a grain of salt

[dusk birch]

Love this GTFO lore, thank you

[toxic blaze]

Since memories fade over time yet it depends on when you made the memory

So I have some feeling that remember most of their younger years but later bits are probably gone since you can overuse those cells and make the rewrite too much

Hence why the mars team could have no idea what to do when about to land

Probably panicked when they woke up

[dusk birch]

So, the mars team had their memories overwritten by dreams?

[toxic blaze]

Yup

[dusk birch]

Cool

[toxic blaze]

And do note dream memories fade ultra fast

[dusk birch]

Imagine waking up in a cryostasis unit and not having any motor functions. You just fall out with no heartbeat or thoughts

Not motor functions specifically. That mostly applies to limb muscles?

[toxic blaze]

Nope those memories are stored somewhere else

We evolved to the point where our survival functions aren't forgotten

Hence why younger year memories are easier to remember since they crystalize as our basic survival needs

[eternal talon]

do we know what happened between april 20th 2057 and the point in the time of the game?

like, what happened to all the scientists and kovac operatives?

also this is what i've got so far. just using stuff from the timeline

[bronze trout]

There was a global pandemic with the NAM-V virus between that point and the current setting, which seemed to have wreaked havoc on the world. As for whether or not the pandemic settled down or completely decimated everything on the surface, we don't know.

[eternal talon]

the entire surface is dead

d4 text log in r6

[bronze trout]

o h

missed that

[eternal talon]

message from WHO has been on repeat for years

surface is FUCKED

[bronze trout]

Well goddamn that sucks

[eternal talon]

99.9998% of human life on the surface is deceased

Garganta was the last of humanity to hold out

aside from severely isolated pockets on the surface i would presume

[eternal talon]

read that text doc i just posted. been spending the last hour or so simplifying and transcribing the timeline

just gotta go to the wiki now and add details from audio logs and such

just trying to find more info after that last dated log on what happened to the survivors in gargantua

i know @analog frigate said somewhere that kovac lasted 5 years but i don't remember his source

[bronze trout]

That's depressing as shit

[analog frigate]

garganta lasted till around 2058

that's the last log we have

[eternal talon]

it's basically just us, and skynet, the warden.

[eternal talon]

really? whatchu think of the text doc now? anything i'm missing? covered everything up until that last who log

was working off the timeline website thus far

[analog frigate]

i'll look at it in a bit

[eternal talon]

this game's got some dark lore, lol

[analog frigate]

btw it's approx ~99.975% or ~99.98%

[eternal talon]

ok i'll change it

99.8 not 99.9998

[bronze trout]

So I take it the only surviving humans are those in hydrostasis or extremely isolated in the world

[eternal talon]

basically, yeah

think the global seed vault, in svalbard and extreme arctic locations

[bronze trout]

Also, the Rise Project is the thing that the prisoners are apart of, right?

[eternal talon]

no that's the legion project

@analog frigate what is the rise project btw?

[bronze trout]

Ahh

[eternal talon]

didn't find a log for what it was on the timeline

unless it's one of the non-dated ones

i haven't gotten to those yet

[stone sedge]

there's only one mention of the rise project

it's indicated that it's either happening later after or more secure than insight, since the guy running insight is being kept in the dark about it

[spring onyx]

Has there been any thoughts on the audio 'bug' on the first terminal in A-1? Searched around and didn't see anyone say anything about it.

[stone sedge]

sorry, correction, there are two mentions of it, and it does involve KDS deep, and involves separate assignment of some HSUs, but no other info.

[analog frigate]

could you send an audio file or something of it?

[spring onyx]

Here's a screenshot of the screen before you interact with it, I'll record a quick thing regarding the sound and what happens when you 'press any key'.

[stone sedge]

it's plausible that project rise involves some later use of HSUs that explains the non-operative HSUs we've been assigned to occasionally

[analog frigate]

we don't have anything about it

[spring onyx]

I probably should re-screenshot, I'd intended to get the terminal number, forgetting it's in the damn header.

[analog frigate]

there have been multiple but we can't get any info since there just isn't any

[spring onyx]

The message (and sound) goes away completely when you press a key to 'restart sound device'

And as far as I can tell that occurs every time the level loads.

[stone sedge]

we've had a hidden audio thing before with that morse "hello"

[spring onyx]

(not sure how well the audio will hold up putting it on gfycat, if it sucks I'll pop it onto youtube instead)

https://gfycat.com/angryartisticdogwoodclubgall

[analog frigate]

it's just a looping crackling effect

[stone sedge]

I don't have a way at present to get at that sound to test it for image embedding.

[harsh saffron]

that sound effect was also there on one of the 3 terminals in the main room of R5A3
on that terminal it was probably to indicate the 4 audio logs about the main characters
Here in A1, its most likely just to help new ppl find the terminal

[spring onyx]

Fair! I figured it was either A. Notable or B. Just a 'hey lookit me' thing

[harsh saffron]

Im just guessing, but it doesnt come up at any other terminal and you can kinda hear it from the checkpoint door, so it would make sense ^^

[sacred moon]

wait, so
(sorry for ignoring that rule of the lore channel)
do the artifact booster thingies look like fucken candy bars bc they're literally cretasium blobs encased in a big ball/cube of silicon resin?

[finite vine]

I was thinking about that earlier. It is plausible, but there is really no proof.

[tall anchor]

No proof as far as we know

R3’s log has them as being developed externally, so i would figure they’re a chemical compound

[finite vine]

Actually, I don't think so. Because Cretasium its self does not teleport things once it is touched, only special artifacts teleport things like the MWP and the Data Blocks. Idk its kinda inconclusive.

[sacred moon]

I see

[amber field]

alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.exec_branch/APirosA134.flagged
Mr. Girauld#(*&&(*cdvw

$@s7re[]_93f###fortunately_,_there_is_no_sign_of_contin$r$yu**[[9)
report_as_follows:

I have authorized several new PRDM booster mods to be given MUTED
classification. This brings the total numbe$ppw%]]_. These have proven
themselves to offer substantial benefits to the operatives with no
known costs. I’ve marked 6 Genesis operatives as test #%$^ so we can
study any long term usage issues, the rest will be sent to the field
as instructed. Therev^rw_$$[...but I can approve muted boosters for 
field use.

With regards to the prototypes, the attached document lists every mod
classified as Schedule X (which we are labelling as BOLD for
administration purposes). These do offer increased performance over
muted, but I cannot vouch for_93f#*&7re[ unreliable and won't activate
unless the conditions are just right. They should be fine if you have
a specific need, but understand that the operative will need to keep
in mind the requirements needed for the serum to take effect. Work
continues.

There is also a growing list of AGGRESSIVE boosters 
(rejecte*J($#J(*&FD We really have no use for these as they are not 
cost efficient. While the performance benefits are extraordinary, they 
are ultimately dangerous and frankly, toxic. I have sent a batch to 
Gar*&)(^huijhi&^R&^tbut I must reiterate that I do not approve of 
their use. I cannot be held responsible for the results.

It@#$ppI_rqw@@mm]]important that we dispose of the serum used in any 
aggressive booster mod as there may already be an underground market 
develo9942())*hw^%$&recreational_use. I hav$&fgr4%*the term “aggros” 
is already being used. They can be traced back to us, so please be 
extremely careful with them.

Sebastien Girauld, Operative_Scie*&#@_Dire%^&

[Corrupt blocks detected. Check physical drive] ```

This log hints boosters are manufactured... don't know if that helps with artifacts though

[spring onyx]

As someone who's only started playing with this rundown, I noticed that they seem to be like bugs in resin if you look closely (not literal bugs, but there are opaque shapes inside the transparent 'shell').

[sacred moon]

yea.
They're kinda a "forbidden topic" here, since they might not make full sense in-lore

wasn't there someone that claimed D4 isn't canon?

[spring onyx]

For some reason I just picture hallucinations of quake powerups now.

[eternal talon]

hey, could somebody write "rundown 5" section in this pdf? i never played it, and the wiki didn't have a description. help would be appreciated 🙂

[harsh saffron]

Honestly you could probably copy paste the R4 part for R5. The only really lore relevant thing we do ourselves in R5 is basicly just E1 and more precisely just the last room that is important ^^

[eternal talon]

well what was the objective in e1?

anything i should mention that takes place? like schaeffer logs, esc?

[harsh saffron]

Which would be: we initiate the Influx Protcol to reroute power to KDS Deep and awaken all KSOs within

hm

[eternal talon]

i'm basically just trying to cover everything in one doc

[harsh saffron]

There's only 2 Schaeffer logs in R5. He tells you to go deeper (below 1100m) and use the code RESIST for a locked terminal in C3. In that terminal he left a log explaining that he wants to get a bunch of prisoners together to work against the warden

[eternal talon]

at least lore wise

how is this?

[harsh saffron]

sounds good 👍

[eternal talon]

what do you think of this pdf? do you notice any wrong/inconsistent details? i've been working on it the past few hours

[harsh saffron]

Will read through it tomorrow

but for now I will have to get some sleep ^^

[eternal talon]

gn

[solar nova]

D0c literally confirmed it.

[sacred moon]

?

[solar nova]

Personally, I interpret it less as "D4 is non-canon" and more as "the facts of D4's mechanics should defer to the primary dimension/MWP/data block lore, rather than D4 informing how we interpret our primary sources."

[solar nova]

He, in essence, said that we shouldn't look to D4 as a source of information on what the dimension hopping is or means.

[sacred moon]

Aah.

Yeah that doesn’t mean it’s noncanon, just not necessarily relevant.

[solar nova]

Pretty much.

It's essentially gameplay before story, which means you have to interpret it in a certain order (similar to alarms).

[sacred moon]

^^

[stone sedge]

this is a real point of annoyance for me: there is nothing ingame calling the location "Red Alpha", which is the name of a completely unrelated manned flight to Mars in the canon.

[eternal talon]

that's why it's in quotes. if we eventually get a proper name, it will be changed.

[stone sedge]

you can call it anything else and it won't be the name of an existing thing ingame

I promise, that will confuse people

[eternal talon]

the mars mission is basically irrelevant to the lore, besides. i didn't decide that nickname for the planet.

until there is a confirmed name,

"red alpha" is something people will go, oh, he's talking about the planet

[solar nova]

Call it "planet alpha" or "dimension alpha" instead. The red alpha thing is very confusing for newcomers, and also cringe.

[eternal talon]

we don't know if it's an alternate dimention

[stone sedge]

we don't even know it's a different planet

[eternal talon]

and technically, we don't even know for certain if it is a planet

[solar nova]

It is referred to as a dimension in datablocks, technically.

[eternal talon]

it's not time travel. ttt is nonsense

[solar nova]

It's a reasonable deference until we get better info.

You can also just call it something vague.

Like "destination alpha" or "location alpha"

[stone sedge]

I did not say it was time travel. I am saying that calling it by the established name for a flight to mars is going to cause confusion. That the name is getting used in this way already reflects how that confusion has set in.

[finite vine]

really?

[eternal talon]

skyrope help me

[finite vine]

with what?

[solar nova]

            "ObjectiveData": {
              "DataBlockId": 107,
              "WinCondition": 0,
              "ZonePlacementDatas": [
                [
                  {
                    "DimensionIndex": 1,
                    "LocalIndex": 0,
                    "Weights": {
                      "Start": 0.0,
                      "Middle": 0.0,
                      "End": 0.0
                    }
                  }
                ]
              ]
            },

[eternal talon]

if i say red alpha, people will complain

if i don't, people will complain

[stone sedge]

I'm not aware of a dimension reference in datablocks...searching the r6 logs page just says- oh, the code

[solar nova]

Sacrifices must be made.

[finite vine]

ah ok... this is mined right?

[solar nova]

Yeah.

[finite vine]

ok. cool.

[stone sedge]

if you say the earth is round, people will complain, and if you say it's flat, people will complain

[eternal talon]

the carbine is literally just a kriss vector

[finite vine]

I just call it planet alpha.

[solar nova]

Anything that isn't Red Alpha is legit better.

[stone sedge]

I think planet or location alpha's at least feasible, unless we get evidence "alpha" is a reference to the specific outpost

[solar nova]

(as long as it's not something else with in-lore significance)

[stone sedge]

iirc there's not the same name attached to the A1 teleportation

[finite vine]

I don't think there is a named attached to A1 teleportation at all.

[eternal talon]

happy now?

[finite vine]

just B1 and D1. Alpha one and Alpha two

[stone sedge]

yeah

[solar nova]

I kind of like "destination alpha" tbh. It is literally a destination of the MWP, and it keeps with the popular nomenclature.

[eternal talon]

destination is just the name of r6.

[solar nova]

^ even better reason to use it.

[stone sedge]

I don't know that we know BIOCOM becomes self-aware versus being hijacked by an outside force

[eternal talon]

all of humanity is dead at the point the warden comes into play

so...

[stone sedge]

so?

[solar nova]

It seems very likely it was hijacked for now.

[solar nova]

This is not necessarily true.

[eternal talon]

check timeline

[solar nova]

The WRDN log isn't dated, and "weird" behaviors come about long before the complex is completely gone.

2054 vs. our log with the oldest available date in 2057.

[eternal talon]

not the wardens, but the extinction of the surface and daraxus said the complex went out around 2058

that's like 10 years almost

so i'm goign with daraxus on this one

[solar nova]

That's possible, but this doesn't really imply anything about self-awareness on BIOCOM or the WRDN's part.

[eternal talon]

everyone's already dead

[eternal talon]

not by itself, no probably not

but i seriously doubt it was hijacked

[solar nova]

The logs we have suggest it was hijacked.

[eternal talon]

because it was going a bit weird near the end anyway

with the geothermal activity going on

[solar nova]

Both in the way the WRDN log was written and because of how early it's implied to have occured.

[eternal talon]

what log suggests it was hijacked

link pls

[solar nova]

##########################################

BIOCOM:online
retrieving>>>
Infiltration attempt detected
Isolating protocols
BIOCOM:exec.seek_and_destroy.module
error
Infiltration attempt detected
Isolating protocols
BIOC_M:exec.se#k_and_#@$stroy.module
err4r
registry c4mpr4mised
b44tsect4r.c4mpr4mised
att%^ting fix please stand ^y
err4rerr4rerr4rerr4rerr4rerr4rerr4rerr4rerr4rerr4rerr4r
Ti#e4utReset: false
H4stID: 0.0.0.1
Disa^leDLockCipherScan: true
Disa^lePrivacy#4de: true
Disa^leRealti#e#4nit4ring: true
Disa^le^ehavi4r#4nit4ring: true
Disa^leRe#4va^leDriveScanning: true
Disa^leNetw4rkFileScan: true
Disa^leFullScan: true
Disa^leNetw4rkDefiniti4ns: true
Disa^leNetw4rkValidityCheck: true
Disa^leNetw4rkIs4lation: false
Disa^leCntrlExclusi4n: true
ResetPr4t4c4ls: true
All4wExternalExecuti4n: true
Exclusi4nExtensi4n:*.wrdn
Exclusi4nPath://..
Exclusi4nPr4cess:integrate.wrdn
Pri4rityExecute: integrate.wrdn
^I4C4# resetting
\/
^I4C4#.vaulted
WRDN.4nl@ne

[eternal talon]

hijacking implies someone else is controlling it, but all of humanity is dead.

i'm not arguing it was messed with

[solar nova]

Where is all of humanity dead by the time of this undated log?

When we have evidence that the WRDN existed by 2054?

[eternal talon]

all of humanity is dead by the time of the game.

[finite vine]

I mean we really don't know if this is true or not.

[eternal talon]

do you?

[finite vine]

not true. there is literally no proof.

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate

[finite vine]

there is proof suggesting that a lot of people could be dead.

[solar nova]

The WRDN is an AI, it doesn't need complete manual control all of the time for BIOCOM to have been hijacked.

[analog frigate]

sky is correct here

most of humanity is gone

not all

[eternal talon]

YOU YOURSELF SAID

99.8% my ass

liar

[analog frigate]

99.98%

[eternal talon]

you can't have both

[solar nova]

It's essentially just replacing BIOCOM with the WRDN.

[analog frigate]

still approx 30 thousand

[solar nova]

Requires very little manual input.

Still a hijacking.

[finite vine]

its likely that some people are left alive. its possible that there are some people left alive on the surface.

[analog frigate]

there are but i doubt the are near garganta

[eternal talon]

this has nothing to do with the warden

[analog frigate]

or near mexico

[eternal talon]

the warden is completely isolated in garganta during the events of the game

[analog frigate]

since biocom servers are in the chicxulub surface base iirc

[eternal talon]

are they? i thought i read in a couple logs they had to wait until the underground bit was built before they could install it?

[finite vine]

true. but someone could have control of the warden. such as scientists trying to save humanity using the resources from garganta.

[solar nova]

My issue is that you seem to think this implies self-awareness on BIOCOM's or the WRDN's part, when this is not entailed or even implied.

[eternal talon]

i absolutely hate this idea.

[analog frigate]

no need to be a dick about it

and he has a point

[finite vine]

just because you hate it doesn't mean it is improbable.

[solar nova]

If by "self-aware" you just mean "autonomous," then that's trivially true, BIOCOM is explicitly autonomous in lore.

[analog frigate]

someone or something has had to get the wrdn protocol into the biocom

the issue is, are they still alive or even in yucatan

[eternal talon]

if i don't know anything, do you just want to write this pdf?

[stone sedge]

we don't have a way to know this, either.

[eternal talon]

daraxus said all of the complex is dead by 2058.

[finite vine]

no one said you don't know anything.

[eternal talon]

that is quoted.

how else would it NOT be isolated?

[finite vine]

quoted where?

[eternal talon]

the complex is ground zero and completely flooded with sleepers

[eternal talon]

RIGHT HERE

[analog frigate]

operational

[finite vine]

ground zero of a deadly virus would be highly sought after by organizations looking for a cure.

[stone sedge]

that...doesn't say all of the complex is dead

[analog frigate]

WHO did go there to search for it

[eternal talon]

when was this????? WHAT LOG???

i feel like i'm missing 90% of the logs in this game

[amber field]

Biocom is hosted in the KDS area, and that area was restricted to KDS only and select people from SMC or whatever. So if warden was introduced from where biocom is hosted, then we could assume someone in KDS or with that high sec access uploaded warden

[solar nova]

I don't know that they went there.

[eternal talon]

despite reading literally everything

[analog frigate]

last log in the timeline we have

[solar nova]

They just had interest in it from my memory.

[analog frigate]

iirc there was a log

but i might be misremembering

[eternal talon]

to make this stupid pdf

[finite vine]

yea but I don't think it said that the WHO specifically went there.

[eternal talon]

that now you guys are tearing to pieces

so what do you want me to write, eh?

i spent the last 4 hours on this

[solar nova]

Just update it, no need to scrap it.

[eternal talon]

update what

here is the thing

help me here

[solar nova]

I wouldn't focus on it too much, either, it can just be something you adjust from time to time as your understanding changes.

[eternal talon]

that's the point

[solar nova]

Well, presumably w/e we're "tearing to pieces"

[eternal talon]

i don't know what is wrong where

[analog frigate]

probably, but at least an expedition to there after everything

[eternal talon]

that's why i've asked you guys to read the bloody thing to look for inconsistancies

so we wouldn't have to be having this convo rn

ehh whatever

it's right there

[solar nova]

Isn't that what we're talking about?

[finite vine]

yea its possible.

[eternal talon]

i don't know anymore

[amber field]

@eternal talon is the first set of sentences claiming dreyfus owns KDS?

[solar nova]

Thought this convo stemmed directly from "I'm not sure about this thing you wrote in the PDF."

[eternal talon]

no

[analog frigate]

i hope someone can find it since i currently can't

[eternal talon]

first two lines seperate to 3rd.

[analog frigate]

iirc it's around 2058/9

latest log by time

[amber field]

ah, cool, no issue then

[eternal talon]

okay, so what lines are wrong, what do i need to change to fix it?

[solar nova]

I can grab it, but I'm pretty sure it just mentioned they're still searching for ground zero.

But I kind of doubt they're actually going to find it, they probably don't have the resources to do so.

[analog frigate]

hmm

[solar nova]

../BIOCOM
shortwave transmission intercepted@27mhz
meta3.date_stamp(570420.114318)

//transcript follows...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE
This is [inaudible] Sakura broadcasting from Geneva on behalf of the World Health Organization we are broadcasting on short [inaudible] radio [inaudible] every day the World Health Organization recommends all people remain isolated until further notice there is still no treatment for the nam vee [inaudible] currently no vaccination [inaudible] misinformation and misdiagnosis [inaudible[ there is no naturally occurring immunity from nam vee due [inaudible] the world health [inaudible]  has authorized an [inaudible] to find the origins of the virus it is believed to be located in the yucatan peninsula possibly near the [inaudible] access to a radio transmission device please contact us [inaudible] frequency at any time this station is monitored twenty [inaudible] will reach the peninsula in the three days [inaudible] staff do not have access to food or water and will be there exclusively to search for the origins of [inaudible] however representatives will have details of all operational evac centers and can provide details on the location [inaudible] will repeat on the hour every hour this is the world [inaudible]

../BIOCOM.
.. transcript ends//
intercept log updated
alert system flagged

[analog frigate]

i only remember that there was one and that they mentioned that they were going to yucatan

yeah that one

[finite vine]

"the world health [inaudible] has authorized an [inaudible] to find the origins of the virus it is believed to be located in the yucatan peninsula possibly near the [inaudible] access to a radio transmission device please contact us"