oh daraxus
#gtfo-lore
eternal talon
eternal talon
you said this
analog frigate
never said that
dim scroll
🤔
analog frigate
only said that they are more special
eternal talon
only said that they are more special
HOW SO
eternal talon
other than being special forces for the warden
eternal talon
they are idiots
aren't we all?
analog frigate
since we are the only ones known to ever complete every expedition we are sent on
dim scroll
Maybe there are better teams than us
dim scroll
Hmm yes
analog frigate
for now we are just the cream of the crop
eternal talon
if schaeffer broke free, could it be that the players could also?
gentle moon
Shit well there goes that drawing idea.
analog frigate
if schaeffer broke free, could it be that the players could also?
we can't know
eternal talon
we can't know
why can't we?
analog frigate
there is no information about it
dim scroll
Schaeffer mentioned that the signal is weakened as you go deeper into the complex
analog frigate
only schaeffer talking to himself saying that if you go deeper the signal degrades
dim scroll
There may be a point where the prisoners can regain control
analog frigate
but then how hasn't the warden taken control again when he was on the upper levels?
dim scroll
We reached 1311m (D4 included) for now 😔
analog frigate
there are some issues with what he says
eternal talon
only schaeffer talking to himself saying that if you go deeper the signal degrad...
yeah, but couldn't you just go down to the inner and remove the stuff and break free?
analog frigate
as i said, no information
eternal talon
yeah, but couldn't you just go down to the inner and remove the stuff and break ...
OOOOH
dim scroll
Maybe warden needs a constant connection
eternal talon
i would LOVE if this is a part of the story
dim scroll
However i don't think the prisoners will be free anytime soon
eternal talon
when we finally go down to the inner and break free. then have our own rundowns
dim scroll
What would happen afterwards ?
gentle moon
Man, I really started a lore debate... dope
dim scroll
Schaeffer giving us orders ?
analog frigate
Man, I really started a lore debate... dope
this is pretty calm compared to some other times
like talking an entire week about the properties of toxic fog
eternal talon
this is pretty calm compared to some other times
ttt, precursor allens, esc esc
harsh saffron
But Schaeffer took some CS studies in college, he can easily break the wardens control with that right? 
analog frigate
ttt, precursor allens, esc esc
those are still calm
gentle moon
like talking an entire week about the properties of toxic fog
Wow.
eternal talon
like talking an entire week about the properties of toxic fog
the fog is so wierd because of it's inconsistency with being called "infection"
analog frigate
the fog is so wierd because of it's inconsistency with being called "infection"
doesn't have anything to do with NAM-V
eternal talon
doesn't have anything to do with NAM-V
i know
analog frigate
and it is consistent
quick grove
I think the cortex interface is like the HUD of the players i think i could be wrong
gentle moon
I know that's why I asked my question before drawing a Prisoner holding another dead prison's helmet, in the fog.
eternal talon
Idea: on the rundown we finally go down to the inner, and break free from the warden like schaeffer did. then schaeffer gives us new orders and rundowns instead of the warden. like a 2.0, like how r6 was 1.0
analog frigate
I know that's why I asked my question before drawing a Prisoner holding another ...
you can still draw it, just because it's based on a prediction doesn't really matter
dim scroll
I think the cortex interface is like the HUD of the players i think i could be w...
Why do you think Cortex interface lost appear once you lose an expedition ?
lol
analog frigate
Idea: on the rundown we finally go down to the inner, and break free from the wa...
interesting prediction
dim scroll
Idea: on the rundown we finally go down to the inner, and break free from the wa...
That's what i was mentioning earlier lol
analog frigate
I think the cortex interface is like the HUD of the players i think i could be w...
technically the HUD is a part of it
dim scroll
That would imply schaeffer has enough provisions to provide us with what we need
quick grove
Why do you think Cortex interface lost appear once you lose an expedition ?
Ye that was a pretty dumb one tbh
analog frigate
That would imply schaeffer has enough provisions to provide us with what we need
we don't even know if schaeffer is still alive
eternal talon
That would imply schaeffer has enough provisions to provide us with what we need
he's survived somehow, so i would think he has some access to resources. not to mention, the many greenhouses in the complex, as seen in d2
dim scroll
Plot armor ig
analog frigate
i don't think schaeffer can have plot armour
dim scroll
such a shame we don't have dates about audio logs
eternal talon
im sure, the 4 of us would be able to last, even if schaeffer didn't.
WE have the plot armor
eternal talon
i mean think about it, we already find 90% of the stuff we use in missions in missions already
quick grove
Ah welp it doesn't explain A1 and D1 voice logs he knows your there so ye
eternal talon
gargantua has greenhouses, and by that also likely has clean water somewhere
heck, missions in a possible 2.0 could have us go and secure a greenhouse as a base of operations
analog frigate
gargantua has greenhouses, and by that also likely has clean water somewhere
had clean water
analog frigate
alright but that doesn't say the water is still clean
dim scroll
They are probably extremely well preserved
analog frigate
not only
dim scroll
Or modified
eternal talon
They are probably extremely well preserved
they are in open air planters.
and the greenhouses are even more open air
dim scroll
in R4D2's biome (datacenter iirc ?) you can see several dead plants
analog frigate
Ah welp it doesn't explain A1 and D1 voice logs he knows your there so ye
it does
eternal talon
i'm just saying, there's probably got to be somewhere the 4 could hold out as a base
dim scroll
Only in the sewer biome can you see "good" plants
dim scroll
the boyz
analog frigate
it does
it's a guarantee that prisoners are there and also he never says any names specifically
dim scroll
Anyway
analog frigate
what is our squad called btw?
there isn't one
eternal talon
could we coin one?
quick grove
it does
But he literally talks to us he knows the 4 characters specifically that goes down
analog frigate
could we coin one?
no
eternal talon
to make talk about the group easier?
dim scroll
I don't get why there are still plants in sewers but not in other biomes containing plants as well
eternal talon
didn't you guys do that for red alpha?
eternal talon
I don't get why there are still plants in sewers but not in other biomes contain...
who knows. maybe only those certain sections still have working water systems
eternal talon
well purifiers exist
analog frigate
But he literally talks to us he knows the 4 characters specifically that goes do...
hmm
dim scroll
Hmm yes
analog frigate
hey rey
dim scroll
The same purifiers that don't do shit to fog in the complex
topaz flare
hello whats the weekly/monthly lore also hi Daraxus
dim scroll
hello whats the weekly/monthly lore also hi Daraxus
Plants
topaz flare
and merv
analog frigate
hello whats the weekly/monthly lore also hi Daraxus
not much of anything new
dim scroll
Neural cortex
eternal talon
The same purifiers that don't do shit to fog in the complex
they do, we just have to turn them on. see r6c2
dim scroll
Schrödinger's Schaeffer
analog frigate
not much of anything new
just a lot of loose ideas and predictions
quick grove
Yes
topaz flare
i mean thats still something
dim scroll
they do, we just have to turn them on. see r6c2
hmmmm yes R6C2
eternal talon
also d1
analog frigate
i suppose me and punk made the mostly finalised version of the summary/faq
eternal talon
have air purifiers we turn on
dim scroll
Now why tf is R4D2's generator doing shit
quick grove
Oh @eternal talon did find a wierd carved rock in gtfo @topaz flare
analog frigate
backwards?
eternal talon
doesn't mean that that doesn't mean that systems are working somewhere
dim scroll
Well i say backward
eternal talon
not everywhere has fog.
topaz flare
any 'new' news on how sleepers move around?
dim scroll
It blocks all filtration
eternal talon
that shows that other purifiers are working.
dim scroll
So the whole level is filled with infectious fog
analog frigate
any 'new' news on how sleepers move around?
nothing much outside that analysis
quick grove
any 'new' news on how sleepers move around?
Nah they still violate you ya know
analog frigate
well a bit is missing since it was made in r5
topaz flare
Nah they still violate you ya know
oof
analog frigate
the flyers and kraken are new
but not that interesting due to lack of info about them
eternal talon
allens
topaz flare
also i just found a very good comparison to a game on how the fog works in the complex
quick grove
hello whats the weekly/monthly lore also hi Daraxus
But the only interesting thing we found well it was founded by @eternal talon was a rock that had carvings on it on red alpha
topaz flare
But the only interesting thing we found well it was founded by <@385612298045358...
i see i see
quick grove
Lostty you still got the rock carvings?
analog frigate
yeah but what does the carving have below it
eternal talon
uh let me see...
yeah i still have a couple pics
also here are those open air plants i was talking about
analog frigate
yeah but what does the carving have below it
is it just a carving or some contraption is below it
quick grove
You can clearly see a circle
topaz flare
thats the teleporter pad is it not?
analog frigate
it's the pattern that appears on red alpha after you teleport
topaz flare
hmmmmm
analog frigate
so then is means almost nothing as in guidance for teleportation or something
eternal talon
we have no idea what it is right now
quick grove
is it just a carving or some contraption is below it
You mean the contraption is sand lol
eternal talon
just that it's there
topaz flare
i mean it could be the teleporter but devs forgot to spawn us there
analog frigate
You mean the contraption is sand lol
exactly
analog frigate
i mean it could be the teleporter but devs forgot to spawn us there
doubt they'd miss such a detail
eternal talon
doubt they'd miss such a detail
that, and it isn't on d1.
analog frigate
yeah that's a thing
quick grove
i mean it could be the teleporter but devs forgot to spawn us there
Your might be right things happen could have been over looked by their side
analog frigate
we just kinda appear in d1
eternal talon
it's exclusive to the locale of b1 and the surroundings are carved out of rock and the thing itself is made of sandstone
eternal talon
we just kinda appear in d1
we also use the same kind of teleporter in d1
topaz flare
we just kinda appear in d1
maybe cause it was a custom teleport?
like tampered data cubes
eternal talon
so it's safe to say if it was from the teleporter, it would have been in d1, but it's not
so it was already there
eternal talon
we just don't really have anything to say about it thus far.
dim scroll
I think it has to do with datacubes' data rather than where B1 is supposed to teleport us
eternal talon
We gotta wait for devs
yeah
dim scroll
From what i'm understand C1's last datacube was the "valid" one
With the coordinates needed for D1
quick grove
Yes
dim scroll
What's strange though is that warden could've asked us to go extract the genome on C1
But there was no PC
eternal talon
is it just a carving or some contraption is below it
well i mean, it's raised out of the sand, so i mean it could be. but all you can see is just the raised bit of sandstone in the shape of a circle
so, no idea.
i had taken a far better pic of it before, but i can't find it now
quick grove
Could be sand that stonalized when we teleported lol
eternal talon
it's in this chat log somewhere
harsh saffron
*But there was no PC*
I mean the pc not being there is just so players dont get distracted and see the kraken in the distance and from a lore perspective its probably not planned because the cubes dont teleport us for long enough
eternal talon
Could be sand that stonalized when we teleported lol
again, not in d1. that's the biggest thing.
quick grove
True lol but that was meant as a joke
dim scroll
I mean the pc not being there is just so players dont get distracted and see the...
probably a plot hole but it'd have been a nice touch to see the PC
dim scroll
this ?
eternal talon
i spent like 4 days just trying to get a pic of it with the heavy flashlight lol
eternal talon
what does jeoloji mean
dim scroll
Nothing
quick grove
Yes
dim scroll
it's a fucked up way to say geology
quick grove
Lmao
dim scroll
Like this one
quick grove
dim scroll
arkeoloji
quick grove
3 friends studying a rock on a another planet in a game what has my life become
eternal talon
but i mean seriously, there has to be a better term to use when refering to our four players than just "the 4 player characters"
fuck it, i'm just gonna go with "the squad" from now on or something along those lines
sacred moon
Maybe warden needs a constant connection
but we don't have a connection over on red alpha, right? Like, it completely cuts off the map and everything with a big [No Connection]
dim scroll
True
so we technically could get out of warden's influence if we stood on red alpha for a sufficiently long time
Yet we don't
eternal talon
could the squad just not know that we can?
dim scroll
So either warden has a way to maintain connection (cf how the objectives update even on red alpha)
Or something's off
eternal talon
or that the warden knows and rushes us along?
dim scroll
I think warden still has a way to contact & control us
eternal talon
I think warden still has a way to contact & control us
well it could just be subroutines in our neural chip until we get back
basically pre-programming
dim scroll
How could the prisoners know what command to input on B1's PC tho
dim scroll
Like would the chip suddenly go "Hey that's the PC so time to type that code"
eternal talon
Like would the chip suddenly go "Hey that's the PC so time to type that code"
yeah
dim scroll
😔
dim scroll
Also for some reason C1's "SURVIVE" objectives are yellow rather than red
dunno if that's a visual bug or if that's intended though
eternal talon
again, could just be subroutines
harsh saffron
I mean the other KSOs also keep their objectives when they traveled with dr durant
eternal talon
if the warden can't send you messages,
what would you write it to say if you want the group to come back alive?
dim scroll
Nothing since i wouldn't know they would be teleported beforehand
On C1's last datacube there is no "survive"
Even though nemesis is right in front of us
eternal talon
Nothing since i wouldn't know they would be teleported beforehand
after the first teleport in a1, could have been added then
dim scroll
That as well
eternal talon
On C1's last datacube there is no "survive"
well we weren't being attacked at that moment
our vitals would be different
chip might not have sensed it
dim scroll
Yet nemesis attacked the outpost
dim scroll
Yes
eternal talon
and we had different orders then
dim scroll
It just appeared in front of us
So anyone would've thought it would attack right away
clever niche
The "survive" objective could just be a general command while the warden/subroutine is deciding what you should do,
harsh saffron
I mean, maybe the kraken is just too slow to react in c1 tbf, he isnt the fastest creature ever ^^
eternal talon
honestly, given it's a physical thing,
dim scroll
So the chip would go "Survive" if it doesn't know what to say ?
eternal talon
So the chip would go "Survive" if it doesn't know what to say ?
yes
dim scroll
Isn't nemesis spawning the floaters in C1 for the 2 first datacubes anyway ?
eternal talon
or something else depending on what info it has
it doesn't have to be a smart ai, just smart enough
the subroutine's purpose is to keep us alive and connected to warden. we can't do that if we are dead, so it tells us to not die.
clever niche
Yeah, to let the prisoners act/react with initiative to preserve the wardens resources.
eternal talon
i'm not saying the subroutine is intelligent or giving us grandiose plans or orders. just trying to keep us alive until we can get more orders, unless it was given info specifically for itself to do
like to locate that terminal and have us put in the code, for example
if you think about it that way, it's rather simple
dim scroll
Big brain warden tho
eternal talon
it's not coming up with orders on it's own, just attempting to follow commands from warden
eternal talon
Big brain warden tho
well it literally is a hyper-intelligent ai
it took over the biocom system and is classed as a DI
it's basically skynet
it's job is specifically to think.
skynet became self-aware on accident
dim scroll
This is not only thinking
eternal talon
it's planning
dim scroll
It's literally predicting extreme situations
eternal talon
strategy
dim scroll
Including lost connections
eternal talon
something like an ai can think many many millions of times faster than we can
dim scroll
Dunno who made WRDN & who injected it but that guy was a genius fo sho
eternal talon
with sheer proccessing power
harsh saffron
Yeah, if we are just the 2nd team every time, the warden might just now how most of the mission will play out already
eternal talon
not to mention we aren't the only team
clever niche
Yeah, the AI probably has a truly massive database full of possible situations and contingencies
dim scroll
Something else bothers me
eternal talon
the warden is commanding a hundred potentially hundreds of teams at the same time
dim scroll
Why not increasing the team's capacity ?
eternal talon
given it has thousands of prisoners to work with
dim scroll
Supposedly 6 or even 8 prisoners would increase survivability
Why not modifying the machine used to dive to make it possible
eternal talon
Why not increasing the team's capacity ?
could be due to the lift's limit of 4 hsus. we don't actually know, have to ask @analog frigate on that one
dim scroll
😔
eternal talon
we talked about it a couple days ago
clever niche
@dim scrollcuz devs haven't worked on increasing the player limit
dim scroll
Devs aren't canon tho 😔
livid night
resource shortage I would assume
eternal talon
it's also an ai, not exactly like it has hands
it'd have to have prisoners modify it
clever niche
Best headcannon I have until devs find a lore reason/implement higher player counts is that AI limits itself to cut losses in event of a failed expedition.
eternal talon
and given it's trying to keep us under control, i find that unlikely
dim scroll
Or it did predictions with prisoner count & the amount of objectives to clear
Supposedly under a limited time
And concluded that teams of 4 prisoners would be the most adequate
eternal talon
i mean look at c3
it knows we are it's most valuable squad
it used us as a diversion knowing we'd survive
quick grove
with sheer proccessing power
Well i mean the complex is big and BIOCOM was big there probably should be a "place"where the warden is housed or what not and it got it self a whole complex/facility so it got a lot of power if it wants it
eternal talon
so the other squad could do whatever it wanted them to
dim scroll
Nothing says there aren't other squads who are doing diversions for us to clear levels
There could even be one for each level we clear
eternal talon
Nothing says there aren't other squads who are doing diversions for us to clear ...
that's not what i said. it's confirmed there are other squads
dim scroll
Yeah
eternal talon
i'm saying we are the most valuable of the MVPs and it knows it.
quick grove
True
eternal talon
You do not speak of that level
what is up?
eternal talon
Also warden could've triggered its protocol without us going into C3
what protocol
eternal talon
actually C3's optional objectives give us a reason to do so
well clearly, the main is it's primary goal. it wants the others done, but it doesn't need them done. so it gives us them as optional with rewards for completion
quick grove
what is up?
It was the most hell bent and suffering mission i've ever done in GTFO thats why when i said R6C3 was easy
dim scroll
I don't think optional objectives are purely optional
eternal talon
well clearly, the main is it's primary goal. it wants the others done, but it do...
also wtf is with the cosmetics? is the warden using robots to knit sweaters to send us as cosmetics?
dim scroll
R4E1's reactor was necessary to access R5's maps
eternal talon
R4E1's reactor was necessary to access R5's maps
it's canonical we do everything
quick grove
I don't think optional objectives are purely optional
Well ye in R5 you had to do a certain amount of these objectives as well and some of em was reactors if i remember correctly from watching youtube videos and playing
eternal talon
pog squad
clever niche
Also, anyone else notice that the bat is the only melee weapon that seems like and actual weapon? The drillspear and sledgehammer seem to be mining equipment while knives are usually used as tools. What were the bats for? Guards/enforcement on the facility?
quick grove
Lol no
dim scroll
Well ye in R5 you had to do a certain amount of these objectives as well and som...
Reactors exist since R1
So naturally there is a purpose in restarting them
quick grove
So naturally there is a purpose in restarting them
I know but you still turn em on
dim scroll
Since they provide some sectors with power
quick grove
Lmao
dim scroll
I'm mostly curious about what they plan to do with all that red alpha stuff
It just came out of nowhere in R6
eternal talon
the inner and new sleepers variants i'd assume
quick grove
Yes
dim scroll
Aside from floaters & nemesis we didn't see anything tho
eternal talon
Aside from floaters & nemesis we didn't see anything tho
not yet though
remember, it's been 65 million years
harsh saffron
I would assume they planned that for a while tho, they always said they were holding back on lore before the 1.0 release
quick grove
R5E1 still has a purpose because theres an elevator going down so ye
quick grove
Really
dim scroll
actually it could go down as well
quick grove
Ye
dim scroll
No reason to think it's the last floor
quick grove
Yep
finite vine
is there a log or something that mention neural cortexes? I know KSO's were basically being mind controlled by BIOCOM (log EBDT-44-WSX), but I don't think we really know how... The only things we have in-game that have anything to do with mind-machine interfaces is the NRV probe and the Cortex Interface, both of which have little to no information regarding them.
Also, it seems like the current prisoners (Woods, Dauda, Hacket, Bishop) have the ability to think freely and do what they want. They banter back and forth and make jokes/ talk, which is confusing. Why were KSO's basically robots, but the current prisoners are not?
analog frigate
is there a log or something that mention neural cortexes? I know KSO's were basi...
iirc there were logs talking about KSOs
@subtle verge probably has them
and he's more knowledgeable on this topic than me
finite vine
alright
I know that there are logs talking about KSO's, but I was just wondering if there was anything about nerural cortexes.
eternal talon
is there a log or something that mention neural cortexes? I know KSO's were basi...
that is WHAT I MEAN
the squad has more self-intelligence
or whatever you wanna call it
self control?
control over themselves
finite vine
yeah they have more freedom, free thinking
analog frigate
we don't have other KSOs to compare against
only that one dude that sat in a closet for 6 minutes
eternal talon
only that one dude that sat in a closet for 6 minutes
lmao who
finite vine
we don't have other KSOs to compare against
yea we do, Bishop was actually described as a robot by Dr. Durant on EF-01 mission to planet alpha
eternal talon
yea we do, Bishop was actually described as a robot by Dr. Durant on EF-01 missi...
that is true
staring blankly and not talking, before being escorted away to a part of the complex locked down
that was in the last log of c1
stokes sounded so frustrated
subtle verge
is there a log or something that mention neural cortexes? I know KSO's were basi...
To my knowledge, there is zero logs that specify any kind of neural cortex device.
I think the only time the word "probe" ever comes up is talking about the Hammerstein Probe.
finite vine
ah ok.
subtle verge
I want more about the NCI too. 😦
lilac island
are we able to find out what the redacted bits are in some logs?
analog frigate
not really
depends on the level of corruption
some logs have a couple words slightly scrambled and they can be figured out
others are just completely gibberish
lilac island
oh the redacted bits is corruption? Interesting
analog frigate
ah those are just redacted
lilac island
analog frigate
we can't really know what they say
lilac island
oh if it ssaved it can be shown ,awesome, yea was just curious about those bits^
awee
tulip badger
so i've heard people say that this is a charger's face, is that true?
eternal talon
wtf
that thing still has a face
most of the mutations completely overhaul the head of the host
and it looks like it's jaw has been split open
quick grove
That my friends is an enemy that was a concept i think
An enemy that was i think in the test build before rundown 1
solar nova
Pretty sure it's closer to concept art.
I don't think it super means anything.
Might even be a corpse model.
subtle verge
Looks like one mean sumbitch, I tell you hwat.
rose hinge
staring blankly and not talking, before being escorted away to a part of the com...
IIRC from that same log it did say he eventually started talking, just that he wouldn’t tell them anything about what happened. Hard to say if it was that he was being robotic all the time or evasive in that moment and only robotic in carrying out his missions.
quick grove
Might even be a corpse model.
No its not it was an enemy in the alpha test build before R1 its an enemy thats been scrapped as far as i know
I asked like long ago when i first joined the server if anyone knows what that creature is because it wasn't ingame
quick grove
*Looks like one mean sumbitch, I tell you hwat.*
And yes lol looks like something you don't really wanna face
quick grove
Pretty sure it's closer to concept art.
And no lol thats a actual model not concept art
solar nova
The lore database should be up to date outside of special terminal commands.
Should be nice for viewing the timeline.
solar nova
Holy shit, our oldest dated log is the one between the Mr. and the Mrs. Stokes.
That's how late these projects were being worked on.
So all of this research was continuing while sleepers are already a thing and the energy blast has happened.
Makes me think there must be a bunch of logs we're missing in 2054 and beyond (2055? 2056?)
From the first mention of exploring the fossil to Andrew Clinton's death.
The fact that NAM-V precedes this by so much time suggests to me that they found something in the fossil that threw everything into chaos, possibly even unrelated to the basic sleepers.
solar nova
This log is Artus, btw.
Found out this ID was already put into the database under his name.
quick grove
Man died lol
quick grove
Yep
But it sounds like my man artus got ummm got ummm welp.....welp got eaten by a sleeper lol
quick grove
Nah my man's got molded he screamed for his life and then you just read unaudiable
Like my guy is getting chommed lol
Where can i find the log for that btw
dim scroll
Dead people don't seem to transform into sleepers
And i expect sleepers to not kill their enemies
rather transform them into sleepers as well
sacred moon
is that why we never truly die, only being "knocked out"?
them not killing us but infecting us however way they do it, probably parasite?
quick grove
Bro the personal data base is so fucking useless it doesn't want me to click on anything
Yeah its some use but you can't click anythijg
Anything*
@dim scroll yo can you get me that log pls
solar nova
../BIOCOM
audio intercept
meta3.date_stamp(561125.160643)
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D017
You're not listening to me I am getting no response at all not a bounce back the message is getting there nothing is coming back so it
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D017
Right so is the network down on your end
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D017
I tried that I tried everything at my tier blast doors media [inaudible] temperature con
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D017
yes temperature control I can't even turn on the fucking lights
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D017
How the fuck do I do that when there is no elevator I have no power fuck are you even listening to me I am trapped down
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D017
You know as well as I do there is only one thing that can override every system in the place and that’s [biocom] but I can't find any controllers down
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D017
So it's not even possible it could go wrong I am the one who is stuck here you fucking asshole oh no
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D017
Oh jesus christ no what the hell is that please come and get me please I am begging you
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D017
Oh no please you fucking assholes
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@quick grove There.
quick grove
Thx
dim scroll
Oh jesus christ no what the hell is that please come and get me please I am begging you
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D017
Oh no please you fucking assholes```The response is definitely "lol no"
quick grove
Mans got chommed by em
solar nova
I wonder if we've actually missed an environmental story detail.
It's possible that, as things went to shit, a lot of the infrastructure moved into the floodways, explaining why it was being used for transport and why there are plants housed there.
The main motivation for this shift being that the laboratories have lots of decrepit plants while the grow beds in the floodways appear well-kept.
Alternatively, Schaeffer has taken up gardening as a hobby, and the floodways is his best access to water.
harsh saffron
Now I wanna see Schaffer with a rake and a little hat 🙂
Oh btw Ray
the two Biocom intercepted logs from R6D4 can be dated as the 2 oldest logs we have (2056 and 2057)
solar nova
Oh btw Ray
the two Biocom intercepted logs from R6D4 can be dated as the 2 oldes...
Oh, they can be dated?
Do we know the month and day?
harsh saffron
yeah those "meta3.date_stamp(561125.160643)"
thats 25.11.2056 at 16:06:34
and the Broadcast thing is meta3.date_stamp(570420.114318)
so 20.04.2057 at 11:43:18
solar nova
Hugely appreciated, added to the database.
harsh saffron
but its still crazy that rebecca stokes was so late to join
its like "yeah the world is ending, oh btw you should rly go and steal hammerstein all the fame lol"
solar nova
CRAZY research project goin' on rn, only tangentially related to triggering the apocalypses.
harsh saffron
😄
harsh saffron
could also be that the lockdown report was written, and then pormptly almost ignored because "money over human lives"
but thats still pretty insane that they were walking around while everything was falling to ruins
solar nova
There's a decent chance things continued, just under lockdown.
tall anchor
Oh, they can be dated?
cough https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline
almost all of the work has been done for you
solar nova
*cough* https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline
almost all of the work has been ...
I prefer the Notion.
tall anchor
could also be that the lockdown report was written, and then pormptly almost ign...
lmao have you looked outside lately
tall anchor
I prefer the Notion.
hey i agree, i’m just saying feel free to rip off my work
solar nova
I'll keep it in mind.
harsh saffron
lmao have you looked outside lately
Nope, its cold outside. Thats why I stay inside 
tall anchor
lmaoooo
sacred moon
with that corrupted log of someone (WHO and stuff) trying to find the source of the virus at the end of that timeline
We don't know what happened with that yet, do we? Whether that's actively happening and they'll run into heavy sleeper territory + Warden going "You're not supposed to be here", or whether it already happened in the past?
like, if they'll run into the complex and actually locate it, dafuq's gonna happen?
Would they wake up sleepers and just die? Would they actually manage to contact the Warden somehow, and promptly get shut out due to not having proper access and all that?
solar nova
Chances are they don't have the resources to figure it out, and it'll be quite hard to stumble upon the complex.
We're in our own little world down here.
quick grove
And we're on an island right?
solar nova
A peninsula, but it's connected to Mexico.
quick grove
Ah okay ye I knew that
subtle verge
with that corrupted log of someone (WHO and stuff) trying to find the source of ...
We dont have any confirmation, so all we have is speculation through a calculated guess using what information we have about the NAM-V outbreak. A few of us subscribe to the idea of 'Mass Extinction 6' where humanity is basically gone due to NAM-V. Something like 25-30 thousand remaining humans left due to extreme isolation: hermits, uncontacted tribes, etc.
sacred moon
honestly probably a few more than that worldwide but I can see NAM-V having decimated 99.9% or so of humanity, yeah
subtle verge
We used the R-Naught value of NAM-V, 17 (this means for every 1 person infected, they will go to infect 17 others on average), with current Covid-19 social response and action, and the like.
sacred moon
there's obviously still some survivors with that message, but they likely won't last forever
makes sense
so, on the topic
are our characters just that good and first-try every single mission
with all "deaths" being non-canon
or does the warden have cloning tech
subtle verge
Yeah, 9.5 billion people down to 30k over the course of a year or two is nutty.
subtle verge
are our characters just that good and first-try every single mission
Canonically, they survive every mission.
sacred moon
oh my god they're good
subtle verge
We call it the 'Chad Theory' lmfao.
sacred moon
understandably so
subtle verge
If there is cloning tech, there has been zero evidence for it and zero mention of it, so we pretty much negate that theory in its current state.
eternal talon
No clones
wooden jasper
Accidentally posted this in the spoiler chat but: Anyone else got some theories as to what’s causing the monsters?
My running idea so far is that “The Fossil” was part of an elder god that crashed into earth, and the place you go to with the squids is basically a prison of sorts for it, or where it originates from. The infection is essentially how it spreads it’s influence as the sleepers all seem to be praying in different ways when inactive. Not sure what the kraken is though, could be an avatar of sorts for it, or essentially just it’s organic equivalent of an aircraft carrier. I’m guessing the artifacts we find could be like, fragments of it’s remains or something?
subtle verge
Accidentally posted this in the spoiler chat but: Anyone else got some theories ...
The Fossil is the Chicxulub meteor, the one that killed the dinosaurs. Inside of it were pre-historic variants of sleepers. Inside of the meteor also carried parasites, NAM-V, and a new-to-science element: Cretasium 77a. We suspect that the Matter Wave Projector and the blackened crystals we find during the post-EF01 recon (where we teleport to the celestial body) had something to do with the meteor reaching Earth.
As far as how the Sleepers formed, we suspect that it's either the parasite that causes the transformation, or it is possible that it's a NAM-V + parasite interaction.
eternal talon
Accidentally posted this in the spoiler chat but: Anyone else got some theories ...
Completely inaccurate. We know what causes the sleepers.
subtle verge
you mean NAM-V interacting with a regular virus on earth ?
Thanks for catching that. Not enough coffee in the system yet.
dim scroll
What was the reason for diving further than intended again ?
subtle verge
I typo'd.
dim scroll
Curiosity ?
eternal talon
Its far more likely it's primarily the parasite's doing. A virus does not have the means to control a host
dim scroll
Anything is possible at this point
eternal talon
Biologically speaking
subtle verge
Accidentally posted this in the spoiler chat but: Anyone else got some theories ...
Check the pinned comments for an FAQ and newbie guide to lore discovery in GTFO. Also, we have a biology report on the Sleepers if you would like to see that, as well.
As much as I love the idea of an Elder God points at my own name it's currently not a feasible theory by any stretch of the word.
eternal talon
Viruses could bearly considering intelligent
Let alone capable of controlling a much larger host
Look at cordaceps for example, that's a fungus designed specifically to do that
Not an individual cell based organism
And it's debatable calling viruses organisms
At all
Most sleepers follow a consistent train of mutation, something only the parasite would even be possible of being capable of
It could be requiring both the parasite and the virus yes,
But not the virus by itself
Of that I am certain
subtle verge
I will give that statement an A for effort, though, if the game were narratively a Lovecraftian-themed scifi horror.
eternal talon
Ergo, Case being that the surface is overwhelmingly dead, not infected. Or not turned anyway.
eternal talon
I will give that statement an A for effort, though, if the game were narratively...
Certainly would be an incredibly interesting theory, were it not for being inconsistent with the lore. Such a shame
subtle verge
The things I would do for a decent Lovecraftian/cosmic horror-themed game.
eternal talon
*The things I would do for a decent Lovecraftian/cosmic horror-themed game.*
Well I mean the allens could be large tentacle monsters for all we know.
We have no info on them yet.
Depending on, couldn't the egg be an actual egg and the inner is just the remains of a giant infected embryo of one of the allens?
That's the level of non-existant information on them we have
wooden jasper
y'know, something just occurred to me. There's a log that mentions a shadow striker seemingly teleporting right? Could their invisibility be a result of them somehow getting stuck between both earth and Alpha Red at the same time? Like they're not fully in either place, and as such not fully visible? Kind of like they didn't fully phase into our reality for some reason.
analog frigate
hypothetically possible
works out in quantum physics
although there are very specific requirements for such a phenomenon
mainly the energy needed to keep the particles balanced between both locations
or switching between them constantly
also that would mean they somehow have to be able to change position on red alpha the same as they do on earth
eternal talon
That doesn't really make sense endless there is an exact copy of the complex on red alpha
Because the complex is underground
So on earth they would be in a corridor, but on red alpha, in a rock
celest pagoda
y'know, something just occurred to me. There's a log that mentions a shadow stri...
I also remember the log describing a certain sound a detail
"Then I hear this sound - like a popping sound or… a clap of air, like a seal closing. THWAP!" as E105 describes
Is it a reach to think this is the same sound the Floaters make when they tele in from Red Alpha?
analog frigate
they teleport through the portal we left open from the mwp
they can also teleport short distances independently
since they have crystals imbued in their backs
eternal talon
since they have crystals imbued in their backs
They probably eat the rocks for nutrients. Like some animals on earth do
celest pagoda
Exactly, but the sound they make when they do that sounds a lot like how E105 describes the sound he heard
eternal talon
The ability to teleport in them is probably a side effect
celest pagoda
E105 also stated that the sector he was mining in was a dead end; nothing could have gotten in past him.
analog frigate
They probably eat the rocks for nutrients. Like some animals on earth do
no animals on earth eat rocks for nutrients
because they don't give any nutrients
celest pagoda
What I don't get is the entity described.
analog frigate
they eat the biological material on them
celest pagoda
It seems roughly similar to a shooter, maybe?
eternal talon
literally first search result my guy
analog frigate
What I don't get is the entity described.
it's unknown as of yet what it is
analog frigate
literally first search result my guy
yeah but then read why they eat the rocks
celest pagoda
Thats just going of off e105's desc tho, so
I cant say im confident in my thought on that
at all
analog frigate
yeah but then read _why_ they eat the rocks
do they eat them to actually degrade them as to absorb them completely, or some other process
eternal talon
yeah but then read _why_ they eat the rocks
i am not saying they eat the rocks TO teleport
i said it is probably not the intended result, but a positive bonus
wooden jasper
they might be performing some kind of metabolic process by taking energy from the crystals when they eat them.
eternal talon
The ability to teleport in them is probably a side effect
^
analog frigate
i doubt crystals would give anything when eaten
eternal talon
i worded it wrong when i said they eat rocks to get nutrients
more so to proccess nutrients
wooden jasper
i doubt crystals would give anything when eaten
bruh they can teleport stuff, they're BOUND to have massive amount of energy in them.
I think it'd be something like the Mutos in Godzilla feeding on radiation
subtle verge
I think Daraxus means 'give' as in the crystals probably have zero nutritional value.
wooden jasper
actually, do we know that the crystals are made of?
subtle verge
Like the rocks that the shipworm posted above offer.
eternal talon
I think Daraxus means 'give' as in the crystals probably have zero nutritional v...
i didn't mean they did, i meant they help to get nutrients and that's why they eat them
subtle verge
actually, do we know that the crystals are made of?
Negative.
eternal talon
actually, do we know that the crystals are made of?
teleporty stuff
i mean, the floaters have to consume it for some reason. i'm just thinking more basic here, like birds.
damn these cacodemon wanabees.
wooden jasper
They could be a form of life from that world. There's a microorganism/bacteria here on earth that looks like a rock, it lives in caves and they work together to form elaborate stone structures over the course of hundreds of years. The crystals could be similar, a side-effect of something creating them as part of it's life cycle. Maybe we're looking at it wrong, maybe they're essentially a waste product formed from floaters or a similar organism? Unlikely, but I wouldn't say it's out of the question.
eternal talon
They could be a form of life from that world. There's a microorganism/bacteria h...
thing is, ancient allens used these to power their tech. and they were found in the meteor under garganta. with no floaters to be found.
wooden jasper
thing is, ancient allens used these to power their tech. and they were found in ...
was that confirmed 100% though that it was aliens? I figured it was just the scientist theorizing the use of the crystals by whatever presumably made them.
eternal talon
given the tunnels in the inner were described to be almost like lava tubes but not, and the crystals look a bit like obsidian in color and shine, probably a metric fuckton down there
eternal talon
was that confirmed 100% though that it was aliens? I figured it was just the sci...
allens not confirmed, but wmp, artifacts, and data cubes not human in origin
and not from the floaties/kraken either.
subtle verge
was that confirmed 100% though that it was aliens? I figured it was just the sci...
The sleepers aren't aliens; in fact they have been on earth a lot longer than humans have. The floaters, I guess you could call them that by definition since they do not originate from earth (at least from our current perspective).
eternal talon
so heavily speculated on and implied, though we have little actual substantial info on them
eternal talon
The sleepers aren't aliens; in fact they have been on earth a lot longer than hu...
yes, not the sleepers.
sleepers aren't the allens we are talking about
the allens would be looooong since dead/extinct
wooden jasper
The sleepers aren't aliens; in fact they have been on earth a lot longer than hu...
That's what I'm saying, they aren't aliens. That's why I asked if it was confirmed all of a sudden lol
eternal talon
That's what I'm saying, they aren't aliens. That's why I asked if it was confirm...
well, it depends.
they care from the meteor, NOT earth, but they have been on earth longer than humans
if that helps.
just stuck in that rock underground for 65 million years.
subtle verge
The only things that are confirmed are what's written that we can find in-game. Everything else that we talk about in here is speculation. Some supported by evidence, others... tinfoil hats.
eternal talon
or atleast the precursors to the sleepers on earth have been
eternal talon
The only things that are confirmed are what's written that we can find in-game. ...
it's not tinfoil 😠
subtle verge
it's not tinfoil 😠
You're right. It's lunacy.
eternal talon
You're right. It's lunacy.
NO
it's common sense based on information and lack of information combined.
data cubes, wmp, and artifacts are not human made. and the sleepers that attacked the miners were not human, floaties, or a kraken
wooden jasper
Could it be that the meteor was originally part of a planet that the sleepers originated from, and the crystals shifted it into our universe at some point? I can't imagine why else they'd be in it.
eternal talon
primarily sources of information that concur that some unknown entities are the precursors to the infected on earth, and are likely also responsible for the meteor reaching earth in the first place
eternal talon
Could it be that the meteor was originally part of a planet that the sleepers or...
multi-dimentionality not confirmed
we also don't know the sleepers origin point
red alpha could likely be, but is just as likely to be just another planet destroyed by them
wooden jasper
I think if we can figure out what the Kraken is we can answer some questions.
eternal talon
I think if we can figure out what the Kraken is we can answer some questions.
not really.
the kraken is far more than likely just some large infected animal native to red alpha
like the floaties are
subtle verge
Could it be that the meteor was originally part of a planet that the sleepers or...
That was once upon a time a big talking point, however we came to the conclusion of: "We don't know," after hours of research on quantum physics and 50 different ideas/theories.
celest pagoda
"I have rejected that conclusion as there is no evidence of volcanic activity in this area and the chambers are too symmetrical to have been formed by any natural mechanism.
I believe we are looking at evidence of [redacted]. I am confident that the chambers were been constructed by [redacted], though, as yet we do not know how or why they were made. Certainly, a great mystery for me to tackle."
Going off of Hammerstein's research, its fair to say SOMETHING was alive in that fossil at some point.
I think what matters the most to figure out is weather that something was already dead by the time Project Insight rolled in, or if it was still alive/dormant.
eternal talon
Could it be that the meteor was originally part of a planet that the sleepers or...
they were in it because they had infected something in it. those precursor infected are what started the infection of sleepers as we know them on earth.
we know this in logs that state the miners were already under attack before reaching the inner
while this topic is murky in and of itself, it is by far the most likely theory at current that some ancient intelligent race of allens sent the meteor to try and escape red alpha, but the parasite/virus got on board and infected the survivors, then laid dormant with their new hosts underground after colliding with earth.
cut to 65 million years later when humans for Santonian dig into it, and start the infection of earth and discover these ancient artifacts, the artifacts, wmp, and data cubes from this species.
wooden jasper
while this topic is murky in and of itself, it is by far the most likely theory ...
Wait why would they not just make a space-ship?
eternal talon
Wait why would they not just make a space-ship?
human centric thinking applies here.
subtle verge
while this topic is murky in and of itself, it is by far the most likely theory ...
No, that is your theory. I can't think of a single time anyone has agreed that to be the most likely case. Lmfao.
eternal talon
^
subtle verge
My point being: that is not a unanimous idea that everyone subscribes to as "most likely."
Poll or not.
wooden jasper
human centric thinking applies here.
bruh how would they even get it into space without space ships? If it was made in space then they already had space ships of some kind right? That's why I suggested it was part of a planet that the sleepers were on originally. like it was destroyed and that chunk eventually hit earth.
eternal talon
My point being: that is not a unanimous idea that everyone subscribes to as "mos...
i did not state it as unanimous.
eternal talon
bruh how would they even get it into space without space ships? If it was made i...
human centric. given what we have already seen with the teleporters, they are FAR more advanced, or at least were, than humanity.
this kind of thinking led to the "grey aliens" in science fiction
subtle verge
"it is by far the most likely theory at current " Stated in different wording; semantics, but you get what I'm trying to say.
eternal talon
*"it is by far the most likely theory at current "* Stated in different wording;...
i do, and if you have a different theory, please put it out there for me to see. i'm just trying to piece the lore together the best i can, as is everyone else here
wooden jasper
human centric. given what we have already seen with the teleporters, they are FA...
So to be clear, they teleported into a meteor, then proceed to somehow move meteor away, instead of just teleporting to another planet entirely? What's the point of the meteor if the crystals can send us right to Red Alpha?
eternal talon
*"it is by far the most likely theory at current "* Stated in different wording;...
i should have added "imo", i agree. my mistake
eternal talon
So to be clear, they teleported into a meteor, then proceed to somehow move mete...
no. the meteor was a part of red alpha itself.
subtle verge
I'm not saying you're wrong, and I do have my own theories, however it is intellectually dishonest to not only yourself, but to everyone else to state that an idea is "a leading theory" when there is way too much discourse around that subject with the unknown.
wooden jasper
no. the meteor was a part of red alpha itself.
So the theory I proposed then of it being piece of the planet.
eternal talon
So the theory I proposed then of it being piece of the planet.
we don't know if the sleepers originated there as some sort of biological project gone wrong, natural evolution, or the same thing that happened to earth. and we don't know anything about the possibility of interdimentional travel in this game
so shifted, yes possibly, but through space, or, at least, not dimentions afik, it's kind of wierd and complicated since we have no real info on how their teleporters work
just that they do
again, it could be through dimensions, but we just don't know. that's what i mean, it's kind of wierd
eternal talon
I'm not saying you're wrong, and I do have my own theories, however it is intell...
i apologize, that was not my intent. simply that it was my leading theory from what i've seen/researched
wooden jasper
well it's called a matter projector, it probably "projects" the matter through some process to new locations. Like how a projector IRL projects shadows onto a wall when you place objects on the light in it.
subtle verge
i apologize, that was not my intent. simply that it was my leading theory from w...
All good man, no need to apologize. I'm not ripping on you or anything. ❤️
wooden jasper
hence the tether
eternal talon
well it's called a matter projector, it probably "projects" the matter through s...
allen stuff is so weird, yeah. it's just kinda hard to talk about it because we think about aliens, in ways that make sense to us humans, but in reality, they could be literally anything
they might have develpoed teleportation tech before rocketry, or gotten so advanced it's more efficient to just teleport matter into space and away than burning fuel to fly there on a conventional rocket, or they could have always used parts of their natural planet instead of steel-made rockets, we have no idea
i try to keep as impartial as possible, because so often when talking about aliens we think about it in human terms
and that makes things difficult
all we really know for certain, is their teleportation tech was so advanced it could travel many many many many times faster than the speed of light through one method or another, and had seemingly developed alot of tech around it to make it accurate, like the data cubes to mark a location, though we don't know for certain why they need three.
another thing is the artifacts we uncover in levels, we have no clue why there are so many, or even what they do
it could be related to boosters since collecting them gives us boosters, or the boosters themselves could just be a reward FOR collecting them. we have no idea.
eternal talon
All good man, no need to apologize. I'm not ripping on you or anything. ❤️
seeing as you hadn't seen the poll, have you seen the sandstone carving i had found in b1 a while ago?
alot of people took looks at it, and it's really intriguing
because it doesn't make any sense as to why it is there
subtle verge
another thing is the artifacts we uncover in levels, we have no clue why there a...
The boosters were manufactured by KDS.
subtle verge
seeing as you hadn't seen the poll, have you seen the sandstone carving i had fo...
And yes, I've seen them. Definitely looks interesting.
celest pagoda
For what we know on the Fossil: it is absolutely massive. Given the numbers in the deepscan log, its size in a range; the range puts the length at 1.15 to 1.61 miles, and the width at 0.65 to 0.9 miles. The fact that it is s o damn deep underground is what leads to believe it could of been a fragment of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs; still though, I have 0 concrete evidence of that suggestion so don't take my word for it.
eternal talon
The boosters were manufactured by KDS.
not the boosters, the artifacts we collect in levels that reward us with boosters.
eternal talon
For what we know on the Fossil: it is absolutely massive. Given the numbers in t...
if i remember correctly, the meteor is 7 miles? wide.
it is bloody well enormous
subtle verge
not the boosters, the artifacts we collect in levels that reward us with booster...
Those are the boosters themselves. It's just a game mechanic that they're not 1-for-1.
They were meant to be taken in small doses.
subtle verge
Artifact is just another term for object.
eternal talon
@analog frigate do you have any additional info on this?
i know you catalogue a ton of shit
analog frigate
boosters are called artefacts?
analog frigate
they are a part of the unwritten rules of this channel, being do not talk about them
but
they are in fact man made as far as log info goes
eternal talon
are they? that is dissapointing
analog frigate
probably something insight has been working on
eternal talon
they are such strange looking things
subtle verge
121UL6.LOG titled 'Boosters' if you want to read it.
eternal talon
you'd think it'd be the opposite, since the data cubes and wmp look man made, but the artifacts do not
subtle verge
Rundown 5
analog frigate
121UL6.LOG titled 'Boosters' if you want to read it.
yeah that says that it's made from us
eternal talon
alot of lobbies i have been in, people have called them rock candy
subtle verge
Futuristic Arby's.
I call them crack rocks because... reasons... that I do not want to discuss other than I've delved in to that underground market a few times. ANYWAY.
Yeah, the aggressive boosters are incredibly toxic when used, and have been stated that they shouldn't be used by the developer of them.
However muted boosters were approved for field usage.
subtle verge
Yep, for the KSOs. It would make sense, though. Essentially narcotics to push them beyond human measures; stronger, faster, less perceptive of pain, etc.
eternal talon
holding back an army of sleepers for YEARS, not strong enough? jesus
what's the standards for these guys?
analog frigate
the highest
eternal talon
if they can't benchpress a TANK are they out?
analog frigate
possibly
eternal talon
inb4 leaked images of KSO barracks with operatives benchpressing dead tanks
subtle verge
Even the strongest armies get wiped out by disease and arrogance.
analog frigate
if they can't benchpress a TANK are they out?
someone actually need to do fan art of that
hackett bench pressing a tank
eternal talon
is hackett a part of kso?
shut mountain
👁️
eternal talon
i thought he just went straight to the program because he killed his family or whatever
analog frigate
he volunteered
after seeing he has no problems killing people
after what happened in venezuela
subtle verge
Project Legion is part of KDS, yeah.
eternal talon
RAN by kso
subtle verge
It's one of the secrets that KDS has been keeping.
eternal talon
what's the deal with bishop in that stokes log then?
if he was already in the program
in c1 and b1
"security operative bishop" oh yeah i guess that makes sense. KSO.
subtle verge
IIRC Bishop has been around the longest; 2020-something from the contract log.
shut mountain
LMFAO HERE BEFORE THE PING
I had the urge to check on this channel for no reason and low and behold 😭 You all keep on theorising now
analog frigate
you're just extra-sense
someone send a text with the words "shirtless hackett" and you can immediately feel it
like spidey sense
subtle verge
LMFAO
amber field
artifacts are def just candy
subtle verge
Please cease
lethal bramble
C-Foam
lilac island
Do sleepers eat our bodies when we die?
analog frigate
we don't know
dim scroll
No idea 😳
harsh saffron
we dont die 🙂
dim scroll
However there are remains of bodies here & there
analog frigate
we dont die 🙂
canonically yeah
dim scroll
Considering their positions it feels like some of them killed themselves
harsh saffron
R7B3: Find Dauda's arm and bring it to the extraction point
eternal talon
we do have some. there is two pegleg cosmetics and a mechanical hand
and unless the warden is cutting off our arms for skins...
subtle verge
Why we have replaced limbs tho?
Cosmetics arent canon. :)
They are one of the unspoken rules in the lore channel:
- Booster Artifacts are a no-no
- Don't question the physics of the HSU drop
- Don't ask about breeding chambers
- Cosmetics aren't canon
Oh, and I forgot one:
- Birds don't exist
hot burrow
sacred moon
well it's called a matter projector, it probably "projects" the matter through s...
Was it named "Matterwave projector" by the humans from santonian that found it, or was it named beforehand?
wooden jasper
Was it named "Matterwave projector" by the humans from santonian that found it, ...
It’s what the scientists studying it call it
sacred moon
Time travel theory
ah.
quick grove
sacred moon
It’s what the scientists studying it call it
so, they call it a "projector" based on their loose, likely inaccurate understanding
a k a
It may or may not have anything to do with the concept of "projection"
quick grove
Im keeping my close eye on you boi
sacred moon
Sure, Merv. I'm sure you do.
quick grove
wooden jasper
so, they call it a "projector" based on their **loose, likely inaccurate underst...
Are you going anywhere with this?
Because understanding or not it’s still projecting you somewhere else and then Pulling you back to where you were originally.
elder citrus
Are you going anywhere with this?
Because understanding or not it’s still projec...
That's the assumption. That does not mean that is actually what is happening.
wooden jasper
Well you see, since a projector is something that projects rays of light to somewhere else, “Matter Wave” would imply the device converts physical matter into some form of wavelength or similar energy(?) to project it to someplace else. It wouldn’t make much sense to call it a matter wave projector if it was simply teleporting stuff. This would also explain why it only activates when someone or something directly touches it, as it most likely performs this upon contact.
@elder citrus I should specify that what I described happens in level two I believe, that being you get sent somewhere else, move to a farther locations, but still pop back into the place you originally left. Hence the comparison and name. Something that tipped me off was the way your vision expands outwards into Alpha Red rather than opening a portal to walk into it.
This would also explain why the floaters don’t warp around during combat
As it wouldn’t be a reliable method for movement without a definitive location prepared, which is how they could push through when it was activated.
But hey, I could be completely wrong, just going off what I’ve seen so far
sacred moon
Are you going anywhere with this?
Because understanding or not it’s still projec...
that's your assumption.
you are basing your entire assumption on the concept of projecting
and I'm literally just telling you that it may or may NOT have anything to do with projecting to begin with
eternal talon
Time travel theory
you mentioned it. what have you done?
@analog frigate GUESS WHAT?
sacred moon
I like your assumption, ngl
I'm still gonna say that it may or may not be projecting at all 
eternal talon
i just did another run of d1 to get your stupid fog pics
your welcome
because last time, you said the infection made it inconclusive
so how about now, eh?
analog frigate
never forced you do take them
analog frigate
i can already tell by looking at them that there isn't anything
the one looking down also only has shading changes and no real detail
eternal talon
the one looking down also only has shading changes and no real detail
...
are you asking me to run it again?
eternal talon
probably not, no.
analog frigate
since they probably made it so that nothing renders below to optimise the game and you won't be able to see it through the fog anyway
eternal talon
but now we have pictures showing directly that
so if someone asks about it in the future,
THEN i don't have to run it again
i also got some sweet pics of the teleporter in d1 past the omega door
eternal talon
i really hope we get an extention, sooner rather than later to get more cosmetics
get some more of that juicy lore too
quick grove
<@!544486890838032401> GUESS WHAT?
I don't know What i have done im sorry
finite vine
Well you see, since a projector is something that projects rays of light to some...
a matter wave is actually a quantum physics concept that states that matter can be described as a particle, as well as a wave that exhibits wave-like behavior.
So to me, it sounds like the matter wave projector uses the wave like properties of matter to transfer/ project them elsewhere.
fresh juniper
Would make for the cleanest execution method ever. Your body literally gets taken apart on a molecular level without you feeling a thing. Just don't bother assembling it back.
wooden jasper
a matter wave is actually a quantum physics concept that states that matter can ...
Damn, props to you my friend for figuring that out!
subtle verge
I think we spent the better part of 3 days on that whole discussion of quantum physics. Lmfao.
subtle verge
Good times.
solar nova
Realizing, the Artus log suggests that Artus wasn't punished for the BIOCOM logs.
Or, at least not that harshly.
Might also mean Schaeffer was alright.
eternal talon
who artus
can i see the log pls?
we talking about biocom biocom, or warden biocom?
solar nova
can i see the log pls?
../BIOCOM
audio intercept
meta3.date_stamp(561125.160643)
concern begins/..
//transcript follows...
D017
You're not listening to me I am getting no response at all not a bounce back the message is getting there nothing is coming back so it
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
Right so is the network down on your end
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
I tried that I tried everything at my tier blast doors media [inaudible] temperature con
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
yes temperature control I can't even turn on the fucking lights
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
How the fuck do I do that when there is no elevator I have no power fuck are you even listening to me I am trapped down
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
You know as well as I do there is only one thing that can override every system in the place and that’s [biocom] but I can't find any controllers down
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
So it's not even possible it could go wrong I am the one who is stuck here you fucking asshole oh no
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
Oh jesus christ no what the hell is that please come and get me please I am begging you
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
Oh no please you fucking assholes
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
[inaudible]
RESPONSE COORDINATOR
[Security tier not met. Update credentials for transcript]
D017
[inaudible]
../BIOCOM
personnel files updated
alert system flagged
concern ends/..
what is the punishing of here?
it looked to me like that was an automated reply system
solar nova
BIOCOM isn't acting strangely to our knowledge when Schaeffer is messaging Artus about entering the fossil.
solar nova
what is the punishing of here?
../BIOCOM
illicit communication
meta3.date_stamp(531013.130946)
concern begins/..
D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.D017.tier4.a_chaperon.flagged
Well fuck me, you called it Art.
What the hell just happened? The entire place shut down on us. Gianna said the mole broke through some kind of barrier. She noped the fuck out of there and told Insight to go and investigate it. Not that I’d call her a reliable source anymore. 4 of her team have bit it in the last 3 years, so… yeah. It doesn’t take much for her to GTFO.
So Insight charges in (FUCK THOSE GUYS) and clears the area. As per we don’t hear shit from them. I’ve got a 300 strong workforce all looking at their Pit Boss waiting for an order, only I know as much as they do so fuck me, right?
Then I remembered that backdoor you told me about, so a bit of rewiring here, a cable patch there and…I had a listen. DON’T PANIC. I was careful. Used up all my knowledge from CS studies in community college.
Anyway, I didn’t understand a lot of what the nerds were talking about but I did get that they sent a probe in to inspect the chamber. They’ve got KSOs holding off Sleepers left and right but they’re keeping it held down then suddenly BOOM. I know you must have felt it. We were topside and we felt it. Honestly, I thought the walls were going to collapse and we’d all be drowned then I remembered I built them so NAH WE GOOD.
I don’t know what it was though. Some kind of energy blast that fucked up anything in its path and left behind these molten passages. Like shit isn’t mad enough already on this job, now we got laser beams shooting at us.
Fucken. Nutz.
They’ve told us we’re all getting a week off while they figure out “the issue”. I know I’m gonna lose some people over this. They’ll risk the Kovac perimeter rather than go back down there.
Fuck this. Fuick them. Fuck you. Only not you. See you in Chix for stogie.
Shafe.
../BIOCOM
personnel files updated
alert system flagged
concern ends/..
See https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0, these are all very late in the timeline.
eternal talon
yeah i dunno. i don't really get the significance of this
solar nova
So, BIOCOM is logging an "illicit communication" between Schaeffer and Artus.
However, we have a log three years later that indicates Artus is still alive and at Garganta.
So, it seems like Artus was either not punished or not punished harshly.
eternal talon
who is piros
harsh saffron
"alive and at Garganta" can be enough punishment potentially
eternal talon
who is this person
solar nova
analog frigate
it's chaparon
eternal talon
WHO
solar nova
eternal talon
NO
solar nova
It's kind of hard to answer narrow questions about Piros, because Piros is in a lot of logs.
analog frigate
yeah i mixed them up
eternal talon
this tells me NOTHING about them
analog frigate
again, read the database
solar nova
this tells me NOTHING about them
Do you know what KDS is?
analog frigate
it has every log that they are mentioned in
eternal talon
KINDA
solar nova
Piros is a higher-up in there.
eternal talon
private military dudes that took over some part of santonians' complex for some reason
eternal talon
contract for what
analog frigate
to keep SMC secrets in the facility
analog frigate
it's not that simple
solar nova
Do you do your own plumbing?
eternal talon
Do you do your own plumbing?
yeah
eternal talon
been working with my pa in most handiwork since i was like 6
carpentry, plumbing, not really electrician stuff though
solar nova
Hiring KDS for security is the same idea as hiring a plumber.
It costs less, and is higher quality, from the perspective of Santonian.
eternal talon
it's not that simple
i don't think your intro to lore is enough. i need lore for dummies.
because it's basic shit i 'kinda' understand
eternal talon
let's start from the very begining
solar nova
Just read the lore database, tbh. You're asking questions that tend to be a lot more specific than what a general overview is for.
solar nova
Mhm
amber field
yes
solar nova
Yes, it's a subsidiary.
eternal talon
why did they build a facility where gargantua is
subtle verge
Hey Lost, have you tried reading the logs like we've suggested about 100 times? There is a lot of context there that you're missing, my guy.
solar nova
why did they build a facility where gargantua is
To mine Iridium.
amber field
to mine for iridium
solar nova
Big money
analog frigate
why did they build a facility where gargantua is
iridium
eternal talon
Hey Lost, have you tried *reading the logs like we've suggested about 100 times?...
yes. i've read all of them before. didn't help me at all
audio logs too. i literally went down the ENTIRE list the other day
subtle verge
All of these questions you're asking, the answers are there.
solar nova
Iridium is a rock. P sure it's a metal.
analog frigate
Iridium is a rock. P sure it's a metal.
yes
solar nova
It's used in electronics in-universe.
analog frigate
very useful at that
solar nova
Probably IRL too.
eternal talon
other than just standard mining tunnels
solar nova
why did they build the complex there?
Be more specific.
eternal talon
why did they have labs, facilities, and offices and shit down there
solar nova
A lot of the complex is literally just mining, actually.
eternal talon
and not just standard dirt and exposed mining tunnels like every other mine on earth
solar nova
Labs and such are there because they discovered anomalous materials and structures.
eternal talon
A lot of the complex is literally just mining, actually.
some of it is yeah, i'm asking about the other stuff
finite vine
why did they build the complex there?
because iridium is abundant inside of meteors. and they found a large vein of iridium on the peninsula
under*
solar nova
some of it is yeah, i'm asking about the other stuff
Cretasium-77a, for example, is a material they ran into.
eternal talon
Cretasium-77a, for example, is a material they ran into.
NOT THERE YET
DONT CONFUSE ME
finite vine
NOT THERE YET
DONT CONFUSE ME
you literally asked about it
eternal talon
because iridium is abundant inside of meteors. and they found a large vein of ir...
so they've cracked meteors before, to get this eredium stuff
solar nova
They also scanned the main vein of what they thought was Iridium, turns out it's all cretasium.
finite vine
so they've cracked meteors before, to get this eredium stuff
yea meteors from space are a very large source of iridium
eternal talon
so they go to the penisula, because a meteor was there, right?
solar nova
So they start digging to it and researching the artifacts they find there.
finite vine
yea most likely
eternal talon
and they were just doing standard mining for how long?
subtle verge
so they go to the penisula, because a meteor was there, right?
Because there was a large reading of iridium, not because they specifically were after the meteor.
eternal talon
Because there was a large reading of iridium, not because they specifically were...
ok
so when do they find the meteor, and the wierd shit starts happening?
finite vine
and they were just doing standard mining for how long?
about a year and a half until they got to 1.5 km i think
eternal talon
do they get kovac involved before, or after that?
solar nova
and they were just doing standard mining for how long?
Until April 2052.
finite vine
kovak gets involved sometime in 2052
eternal talon
kovak gets involved sometime in 2052
why
solar nova
It's happening in parallel, essentially.
eternal talon
because of the wierd shit, or something else
solar nova
because of the wierd shit, or something else
Both
eternal talon
so what did smc hire kds to do?
and why did they take over a portion of the complex?
finite vine
why
because iridium is a lot of money, and they need a security force. to protect personnel and their sensitive data.
finite vine
and why did they take over a portion of the complex?
wdym take over a portion of the complex
eternal talon
because iridium is a lot of money, and they need a security force. to protect pe...
why is their sensative data down in some fuck off mine in the middle of nowhere and not at the company headquarters
eternal talon
wdym take over a portion of the complex
c1 didn't the voice recordings from stokes say kds took bishop to some kovak only part of the complex?
finite vine
why is their sensative data down in some fuck off mine in the middle of nowhere ...
idk... logistics? everything in one place is usually better and more secure
solar nova
so what did smc hire kds to do?
Kovac gets wind of there being weird shit and wants to be hired. They provide evidence that security is lacking, and that a lot of sensitive information is accessible to the general public with enough digging, and offer to solve it on behalf of Santonian.
amber field
>>ENC: D-Lock Block Cipher
Sender: Anders Johanson
Receiver: Janson Davies
Date: September 3rd 2050
Subject: Conspiracy radio
Mr. Davies,
Thought I'd send this along. Please listen to the attached file. It's from an illegal radio station called State of Truth AM. He appears to have an inside source.
We're looking into where they are broadcasting from; we think it's either Nevada or New Mexico.
Aside from our on-site physical presence, we can also monitor all media and news outlets to help protect your brand identity and key personnel. That includes uncovering internal threats to security.
KDS is a complete solution Mr. Davies, and you need us. I am sending this file to you for free, as a gesture of our commitment to you. We will continue to track him down, but if you want the broadcasts to stop, we will need to shake hands.
Anders B035.
>>ENC://
>>EBDT FRAGMENT END ```so what's the deal with this log?
finite vine
Kovac gets wind of there being weird shit and wants to be hired. They provide e...
oh yea... kovac also has a research group as well. i wonder if some of the scientists from kovac research created project insight?
amber field
KDS is a complete solution Mr. Davies, and you need us. I am sending this file to you for free, as a gesture of our commitment to you. We will continue to track him down, but if you want the broadcasts to stop, we will need to shake hands.
KDS is a complete solution Mr. Davies, and you need us. I am sending this file to you for free, as a gesture of our commitment to you. We will continue to track him down, but if you want the broadcasts to stop, we will need to shake hands.
eternal talon
what is project insight
solar nova
c1 didn't the voice recordings from stokes say kds took bishop to some kovak onl...
You're probably confusing yourself. Bishop is a KSO, he's just part of the security detail for the EF01 expedition.
eternal talon
SLOW DOWN