gtfo-lore

[lilac island]

THE CODE WAS IN FACT ''HERE''

[stone vine]

[eternal talon]

What are we talking about?

[analog frigate]

nothing really

kinda been empty for some time

no one asks questions anymore since they probably the faq/summary

or they start typing but think it's a dumb question so they don't say it since they don't know that dumb questions are good

most theories have been discussed and nothing much can be formed until the extension arrives

[eternal talon]

We know what that leak picture is all about?

[analog frigate]

no

[eternal talon]

Do we know we are getting an extension, and not r7?

[analog frigate]

probably getting an extension

[eternal talon]

Well damn, I mean any day now

Or at least I would hope

[analog frigate]

calle would probably post a leak before it comes out

[subtle verge]

And then the leak is just another mask.

[analog frigate]

or the lunar new year mask

[subtle verge]

Or a newly introduced MTX color palette. /s

[eternal talon]

steampunk mask

[subtle verge]

Tbh I'd toss $7.50 for a Lovecraftian Horror-type mask.

Anyway, back to my echo chamber to await for extension.

[analog frigate]

i would if had the money

[analog frigate]

fancy

[subtle verge]

All the cool kids are doing it these days. I hear ego inflation through feedback loops makes you smarter.

[analog frigate]

eh

my place is a bit dark

[subtle verge]

I'm totally joking. Im catching up on some reading that I've put on the back burner for too long.

[analog frigate]

being productive i see

i wish i was, i say as i start up vic2

[sacred moon]

agreed

[eternal talon]

i just had the most broken game of GTFO i've ever had.

the game bugging out, multiple crashes, all kinds of whacky shit

[dim scroll]

First time ?

[eternal talon]

didn't even give me credit for the level

[dim scroll]

😳

[eternal talon]

which really is the BS

but, i did manage to get pics from d1

which was the level that my game was bugging on

i've done d1 before and it's never done that

d1 teleporter room door

teleporter fx

same plants as in b1

horizon is empty

close up on plant bud

peak of mountain on d1

moon and sky

[marsh wave]

@eternal talon my team and I also experienced quite a fun d1

Teamm8s picking up the fog turbine and being unable to drop it

Rejoining and still the same problem

6 bosses spawning inside of each other

And so on kekw

[dim scroll]

Should've set up the sentry on the moon

[tidal wraith]

Don't think devs would do this in pubs as intersting as it would be. If you can send us a report and any details via @ruby lake it would be appreciated

[dim scroll]

smh

[tidal wraith]

definitely didn't expect to see this in the lore channel

[analog frigate]

chonkyyy

how is it going

[tidal wraith]

Might be worth moving to #general

[fluid kraken]

If you were playing with guys using mods, then you don't get the level completion

[eternal talon]

1. i literally reported them
2. i've already 100%ed the rundown, so completion doesn't matter to me
3. sometimes, it's not the players choice who they match up with
4. it's not a serious problem for me, but it might be for someone newer to the game

[fluid kraken]

"Completion doesn't matter to me" then why were you complaining about that LMAO

[eternal talon]

because it would to somebody new to the game that actually needs that completion to progress?

besides, that's not talk for this channel. go to #general

[fluid kraken]

You posted it here in the first place but alright LMAO

[eternal talon]

i posted pictures for LORE. i mentioned it as an aside. besides, the mods removed those posts and pictures, so it's no longer relavant here.

[fluid kraken]

They didn't remove the pictures though 💀

[eternal talon]

they did the pictures that had the people's info in it and the illegal turret locations

but you can't see them, because as i said, the mods REMOVED THEM

[quick grove]

Lol because why would you want to play with hackers that just ruins the clean completion of someone who doesn't have hacks

[eternal talon]

^

[quick grove]

Common sense buddy

[fluid kraken]

I wasn't talking about new players when I said that, I was talking about him going "That is the bs" when he said that completion doesn't matter

[eternal talon]

we are right at the top of the mountain in this level, but we can't see anything over the cliff. so we must be extremely high up

[quick grove]

Ye new players who wants a clean completion i was talking about them to

[eternal talon]

pic over the cliff for reference

[fluid kraken]

They still wont get the completion if they are playing with people using mods, so they can always just try the level again.

[eternal talon]

enough about that

this is the lore channel

merv, please don't egg him on. he's a troll

[quick grove]

Okay so if i was a new player and i was in lostty frosttys position complaining about the fake dev /mod would this have been a completely different situation then?

[fluid kraken]

Yeah, because then you would have the right to complain, if you are doing it for the first time

[eternal talon]

<@&408548765599793173>

[quick grove]

Yeah they still want that clean rundown without mostliky playing without hackers

[analog frigate]

what the fuck is happening in the lore channel

[fluid kraken]

I wasn't saying that he couldn't complain, just pointing out the fact that he said he didn't care about the completion after not getting it smh

[eternal talon]

we need order in this council

[fluid kraken]

Also Lostty, why did you ping the mods when I am not even trolling here

[quick grove]

Okay lmao that doesn't make sense so if you a mad pro you can't complain about people hacking and faking being Dev lol

[fluid kraken]

I literally never said that

He complained about not getting completion and then said that he didn't care about it, which makes no sense

[compact sinew]

Hey guys

[fluid kraken]

I didn't say that he couldn't complain about it

[compact sinew]

Can we please move this out of the lore channel?

[eternal talon]

please save us

this is a mess

[quick grove]

Okay and what if he doesn't care he's trying to probably protect others from running into fake devs and hackers

[fluid kraken]

Sure, sorry

[compact sinew]

This isn't the place for this kind of conversation.

[quick grove]

Sos

[compact sinew]

If you want to report someone for modding or cheating in some way please use @ruby lake and we will handle it that way, it's not something that needs to be argued back and forth publicly, and especially not in the lore channel ♥

[eternal talon]

the lore channel is a place of peace and theory, not for beratement and argument.

now, finally back on topic

[eternal talon]

the plants.

ontop the mountain

[eternal talon]

^

[eternal talon]

god knows how high up

[analog frigate]

plants are a dead end

[eternal talon]

still grow

[quick grove]

Looks like tbe same to me

[analog frigate]

there is nothing about how they work

[quick grove]

From B1

They just show that there is rain of some sorts on the planet

[eternal talon]

like having a bit of shrubbery on the top of mount everest

it is at least an interesting thing, no?

[fluid kraken]

Actually I was about to say that there are plants that can survive without rain, but there are clouds in the sky

They could just be somewhat regular plants

Just look like regular desert shrubbery

[eternal talon]

the soil texture is kind of simmilar to what we see at alpha two, if a bit rocky

however

[eternal talon]

these plants are underground

or at least growing under the cliff face with minimal sunlight

[fluid kraken]

And completely exposed to the elements nonetheless

They'd get plenty of sun the cliff faces towards where the sun rises or sets

Just for smaller amounts of time

[eternal talon]

i suppose

still, surely it must be very cold that far up

[fluid kraken]

On the other hand, they don't have leaves, which means there probably isn't much photosynthesis going on anyways

[eternal talon]

and for a desert plant, that is a little strange

[fluid kraken]

Deserts usually get super cold at night, I don't think temperature would really be an issue

[eternal talon]

well i mean it would be a more consistent thing than most

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate is this the tops of the sandstorms, the clouds, or what is this?

it is hard to tell with my infection level

[fluid kraken]

Probably just fog or clouds, I don't think sandstorms would look like that

[eternal talon]

because if it is the sandstorm, then i think i know exactly what mountain this could potentially be, and it is visible from alpha two

[analog frigate]

what exactly?

[eternal talon]

just, what you see over the cliff face

[analog frigate]

i have to run it through some filters and depth maps

there is nothing in the horizon

literally nothing can be seen

[eternal talon]

That's kinda.. odd

[analog frigate]

if you manage to take another picture of the horizon without infection there might be some texture

[eternal talon]

I mean, it makes sense from a gameplay standpoint, but not from a lore one

[analog frigate]

it does from a lore one

you can't see far normally

and include all the dust in the air constantly

[eternal talon]

Yeah, It took me long enought to just get that one set of photos. I'm not sure I want to try and run it again

[analog frigate]

btw here are the pictures

[eternal talon]

yeah, damn that's kinda hard to interpret

[analog frigate]

there is zero gradient change in the horizon

[eternal talon]

what does that mean, realistically?

[analog frigate]

or just pixels to take anything from

you can't see because there is dust

[eternal talon]

does that give any info at all on where we might be?

[analog frigate]

no

[eternal talon]

elevation, distance, nothing?

[analog frigate]

nope

elevation maybe

but i'll need some pictures without infection looking down

to see down the mountain/hill

[harsh saffron]

When I was walking around the D1 arena it just looked like a big crater/wall at the far back (probably exactly what it is; a big round arena to fight and nothing behind it)

[eternal talon]

could that be where the meteor came from originally?

that's VERY interesting

[harsh saffron]

I want to believe there is a lore reason for that kind of design but realistically, it's probably purely to make the fight look cool 😦

[eternal talon]

the kraken is a very intriguing creature lore wise

i got a better picture of it this last fight,

it's surprisingly thin

and seems to be able to illuminate it's entire interior with red light before unleashing a homing attack.

[harsh saffron]

Wish I could do that

[eternal talon]

what, glow like a glow-stick when you are angry?

[harsh saffron]

yeah and homing attacks sound useful

[eternal talon]

oh, i forgot to mention in regards to this picture, there is a huge pitch-black hole at the back of one of the caves in d1

[harsh saffron]

Yup, I also noticed that these black crystals seem to grow rather fast. At some places, crystals seemed to have pushed pieces of metal aside.

[finite vine]

or the metal was built around it

it would probably look more warped if the crystal pushed the metal

[harsh saffron]

dont think so, that rock you see below the crystal destroyed the floor below and I don't see how that rock could have dropped down without the crystal pushing it down

[finite vine]

are you sure there is a floor below the rock? the floor could of been built around the rock too

any way we are kinda getting into the territory of level design that a level designer would not really think about imho.

[fluid kraken]

I don't think they would just build around it, it'd probably just be easier to move the crystal if it was already there. Panels might've just been loosely connected, or whatever is holding them in place could've rusted and weakened

[harsh saffron]

Yeah, sadly I deleted the screenshot of the floor below, but the floor below it looked rly destroyed

[finite vine]

ok

the crystal and metal are not even touching, so how could the crystal even move the metal if they are not touching?

[fluid kraken]

The crystal could've grown, moved the metal out of the way, and the panels could've dropped down on one side

That is why I said they must've been loosely attached, since if they were fully secure then they would've been warped

[finite vine]

the panels are ridged, it does not look like they dropped to the side.

also the panels were obviously put into the rock at a 45 degree angle with respect to horizontal, because half of the panel is inserted into the rock and the panel is not bent.

[fluid kraken]

They would've just removed the crystal if that was the case, since that'd save materials and time

[finite vine]

or it’s just a level designer making something look cool. imho it’s not enough evidence to determine that the crystals grow fast.

[harsh saffron]

Yeah could just be that. That's just what I thought the design implied but could also be something completely different ^^

[finite vine]

yea i guess its possible.

[knotty harness]

Yes

It was the tiger mask lol

[eternal talon]

not that one

[finite vine]

what other pic is there?

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate

the skybox lookin' thing

[finite vine]

can u post the pic? I don't see any images near the discussion of the leak.

[eternal talon]

#dev-leaks

[finite vine]

the most recent leak is the new mask for lunar new year

[eternal talon]

#dev-leaks message
this is related to the new year mask? how?

[finite vine]

yes, it is. it is an up-close shot of the tiger stripes on the mask...

also Calle even said that his moon emojis had something to do with it. 🌜

moon emoji --> lunar new year

I mean just compare the new mask to the leak. they are identical.

[covert ember]

And the facts line up too

Idea, santa mask?

[white moth]

internet garbage cause of snow storm

video aint gonna be up ;(((

im gonna make a video of me beating a overload door solo with a flight stick as my keyboard and mouse

[analog frigate]

at this point it's basically the tiger mask

[analog frigate]

it's basically kinda this

except cropped differently

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate do you have the WHO voice logs? @fierce bloom wanted them

[analog frigate]

as in the alert?

[eternal talon]

just the logs about the surface being dead, i suppose

from the CDC n' stuff

[analog frigate]

ye one moment

[fierce bloom]

👍

[analog frigate]

here is the emergency broadcast

apart from this what other logs?

like the KDS/SMC analysis of NAM-V as well?

[fierce bloom]

you can send a few its quite interesting

[analog frigate]

Mambo Media Services news wire
Manchester Eye
Mar 18th, 2053
 
Growing Concern over NAM-V
by Duncan Keith
 
Saturday night at the Manchester Royal Infirmary. Usually, the emergency room sees a steady influx of patients. It’s busy; but no more than they can handle. the Infirmary is well staffed and stocked and has a reputation for dealing with patients quickly and efficiently.
 
But not tonight. Tonight over 250 people crowd the waiting rooms. As one patient is seen, treated, and released, 2 more take their place at the end of the line. There are no beds left, not enough personal protective equipment for the medical staff, and a barely contained sense of panic among the cast-down faces of those waiting in hope that they don’t have “the Stoops”. This is a hospital clinging on, desperately trying to weather the storm. The storm of the NAM-V virus.
 
Since the WHO officially labeled the NAM-V virus as a pandemic, the number of reported cases has spiked. In part that is due to a more concerted testing effort, but it is also a sign of just how quickly this virus is spreading. Unlike previous pandemics (Hook, COVID19 – 21, Respo-Z2), this one debilitates its victims. There is no stay-at-home solution. If you have NAM-V, you need medical support. The long-term effects of the virus are still unknown, but once you start to feel the tightening in your bones and the persistent hallucinations you will need medical supervision, or the end will be swift. Medical intervention is the only thing that can slow the decline. Even if the patient does manage to survive the initial onslaught of the virus, it will remain in their system and can strike again without warning. Once you are isolated with NAM-V, you stay isolated.
 
… story continues on page 7```

[fierce bloom]

this is on the wiki ?

[analog frigate]

the last thing sadly not

[fierce bloom]

[analog frigate]

it's in the corrupted folder within the santonian website terminal

but infinite duck has made pages for every log from every rundown on the wiki

you can find the corrupted logs easily on the complex archives server

[harsh saffron]

Maybe I should just add the corrupted logs already and just move/rename them if they appear in an eventual extension

[celest pagoda]

Wanted to mention a thought I had about sleepers & mutation.

So we know sleepers adapt to changes in their environment; Shadows for example have adapted to the dark to become deadly hunters. Sometimes I wonder if things like the Tank have evolved in direct response to the KSOs/prisoner missions. Things like the bullet proof carapace of the Tank to combat gunfire seem to be in direct response to human actions. Or the patrol of the scout to detect outsiders & call for backup.

This then leads me to think; if NAM-V is truly the cause of the sleepers, and sleepers are on the surface, then how aggressively would they mutate in response to the CDC's actions, or the military at large?

If sleepers truly are on the surface, I have no doubt the military could have held off the initial mutations; strikers, shooters, etc. Although tanks are tough too, the military surely could pierce that thick armor plating.

My point is: what if there's something, or many things, outside on the surface that are far worse than what we've already seen in Garganta, as NAM-V will have faced far heavier resistance outside, and adapted to face it.

[eternal talon]

we don't know if nam-v causes sleepers.

[celest pagoda]

I know, my point is IF it does, then what I wrote above could be something to think on

[abstract ledge]

While not unreasonable, we don't really have a mechanism for them to evolve, right?

If sleepers take heavy gunfire, they die, which means it's unlikely they will come back with tank armor. Likewise, while it makes sense for "scouts" to exist to patrol the territories sleepers control, it doesn't explicitly explain their biological differences, such as tentacles or blueness.

It seems at least equally likely they just mutate rapidly (even base sleepers have a large variety in size and feature), and some just, almost coincidentally, are better at certain jobs - which they go to fill.

[analog frigate]

they aren't zombies

once they die, they die

[abstract ledge]

I am aware of this and very thankful for it

[analog frigate]

the biological differences are due to their hive-like nature

[abstract ledge]

Being in a hive doesn't biologically predispose to differentiation. For a simple example of that, bees

So far as I can tell (as a very new reader in lore community) we just don't know either way though

[analog frigate]

bees are different

as in roles

[abstract ledge]

In roles, but not physiology

[analog frigate]

that's the thing, sleepers mutate to be better fit for the task

[abstract ledge]

If you believe that, then we haven't actually disagreed yet

[analog frigate]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HR8ij7DxmU8F-2H4QYqaEnoBQJ1qABHF4l5ml7JTuPI/edit?usp=sharing

@abstract ledge this is a good read

[eternal talon]

Could there be any survivors down in garganta?

How long has it been since it broke out and the complex was overrun?

Isn't schaeffer surviving down there?

Have we come across any trace of kovak security forces?

In-game, I mean

Because we knew they were holding out down there the longest

I'm surprised we haven't seen any doors being barracaded with crates and stuff out of all the zones we've been through since r1

Blood doors are an oddity. How come every security door in the complex is closed? Are they on timers? Or controlled through electronic systems remotely?

Not a single one we have found left open

No signs of out of ammo turrets of defensive positions like sandbags, landmines, nothing of the sort

What do the sleepers eat other than their hosts to keep themselves alive?

[quick grove]

Didn't the warden do like a lockdown thing that closed off all doors and all security doors?

[eternal talon]

Why would sleepers be trying to beat down doors closed remotely, but not others?

[quick grove]

They were probably waken up when the door closed maybe the door made a sound when it closed

We truly don't know how blood doors came to be a thing or why the sleepers woke up maybe someone set them off or something we don't know

And we probably will never know

[analog frigate]

we don't know but most likely not

[analog frigate]

we don't know

[analog frigate]

supposedly but we don't know if he's still alive

[analog frigate]

probably mutated or eaten in some way

[analog frigate]

lockdown

[quick grove]

That wouldn't explain the logs tho so hold on to that one

[analog frigate]

we don't know

[analog frigate]

what log

[quick grove]

The audio logs he left for us on A1 and D1

Him talking to the mimic

Him obviously talking to him self

[eternal talon]

That's Schaeffer not kdf

[quick grove]

Yep thats who im talking about

[analog frigate]

how does this relate

[quick grove]

I actually got no clue

[analog frigate]

he isn't talking to himself

he is talking to the mimic

[quick grove]

Mans said in a previous log from a previous rundown "fuck the warden"

[analog frigate]

he does talk to himself

i am talking specifically about that log

he is talking to the mimic

[quick grove]

Yeah well he is recording him self too so

I guess its a 50 50 thing

I mean maybe this man found some got a bit more sane when he talked to something else

[analog frigate]

we can't know yet

[quick grove]

True

But we should also note that being alone can cause some serious problems to a person in a long term thing

[analog frigate]

yes

[quick grove]

And welp god knows how long schaeffer has been down there just walking endlessly

[analog frigate]

he is probably not the most sane due to that

[quick grove]

Trying to find a way out

[analog frigate]

also all the sleepers and such

[quick grove]

Welp logs show us that he's loosing it a bit but he's not completely gone

[analog frigate]

probably close

[quick grove]

Ye not seeing any human faces just the pale white things trying to always kill you

[eternal talon]

Why don't we find deployed sentries, guns, blockaded doors, n' stuff?

[quick grove]

True but id say he'll be better if he met the 4 characters

[analog frigate]

not like the could place that much and it would last

also they probably have but at the deeper places

[quick grove]

Because why would you want to deploy a sentry when you should be running for your life if doors are closing

[analog frigate]

not 1.3km

[quick grove]

^

[analog frigate]

i imagine there are a lot of insight defences down like 1.8km

[eternal talon]

*why would you pick it up if you were running for your life

[quick grove]

I mean why would you have anything heavy if you were running

The defense wasn't at 1.3km we know its near the egg/crack thing were allen sleepers stormed out to violate everyone

[eternal talon]

I want to see tons of abandoned turrets, guns, corpses, and destroyed battlements

How deep was the "wall"

The defensive line

Or whatever it was called

[quick grove]

I would probably thing 1.9km Or 1.8km something like that

[eternal talon]

Do we have a map/timeline?

[analog frigate]

yes

one on the wiki by lilliana and another one by chase that rayalot took over (i think)

[eternal talon]

No, I mean a map of the complex with dates for when the virus got where

[analog frigate]

we don't know how and when the virus moved

or the sleepers

[eternal talon]

We know there was a defensive line

[analog frigate]

and only maps of the expeditions, nothing of the entire complex

[analog frigate]

we have never seen it or gotten close

[eternal talon]

We know miners were being attacked from the day they cracked the meteor

How far down were the labs with the teleporters?

[analog frigate]

around 1km

[eternal talon]

Surely that stuff wouldn't be built too far from the meteor

They'd have to haul stuff waay far up to study it

[analog frigate]

iirc around 850 and the other at like 1100

[analog frigate]

depends

[eternal talon]

And given how big some of these machines are, they were probably under construction from before the sleepers got to the defensive line or when it was built

[analog frigate]

the facility was supposedly all finished before the sleepers came

[eternal talon]

Well that doesn't make sense AT ALL

How did they get the wmp to even build the machines

How did they do anything at all?

They wouldn't have access or known about the crystals, the teleportation tech, the artifacts... nothing

It's literally impossible

That's like buying a car before you buy the lotto ticket

[analog frigate]

the finished the facility was finished, then they dug to the meteorite

[dawn sparrow]

Idk they are just cool that way Ig

[analog frigate]

finished as in 1.5km down

[eternal talon]

Well those teleporters could not have been finished. Or even started

[analog frigate]

true but they could just be built after

you dig a hole in the side of a room

wire it

and done

a new room

[eternal talon]

Yes

My point being

[analog frigate]

that's the plus of making things underground

[eternal talon]

That's big machines

Really big

Takes time to build them

Dig new rooms

All that

[analog frigate]

so?

they had like 4 years or something similar to do that

[eternal talon]

So they were fighting sleepers for 4 years?

[analog frigate]

i am not sure

but for a while

[eternal talon]

Well they had to

That's what makes no SENSE

The stuff was in the rock

With the sleepers

You just don't get the stuff without the sleepers also being out

[quick grove]

They probably had the machine already built

[analog frigate]

it's from when sleepers originally appeared till 2057/8/9

[eternal talon]

They literally could not have

[analog frigate]

i don't see how it doesn't

[eternal talon]

It requires the wmp

[analog frigate]

they had multiple years to do it

[quick grove]

Maybe they found some crystals when they dugged in who knows

[eternal talon]

How can they have access to the stuff inside the meteor. But not the sleepers when they are in the SAME ROCK

[quick grove]

I would assume that the sleepers didn't attack immediately when they cracked open

[eternal talon]

Miners were under attack. Log says

[analog frigate]

i never said the sleepers weren't out when they found the wmp and stuff

we can't really know the time frame

[eternal talon]

^ "I am not sure but for a while"

[quick grove]

We don't know when the mwp was made

[eternal talon]

Daraxus said they FOUND it

[analog frigate]

i literally said that i'm not sure

[eternal talon]

Humans didn't make it

[analog frigate]

that's what seems likely

since stokes has no idea what it is

or basically anyone

and they call them artefacts

[quick grove]

A thing that size was most likely built before they got attacked by sleepers

[eternal talon]

Well the artifacts are certainly more Allen tech than the wmp is

[analog frigate]

not necessarily

they had enough time

[eternal talon]

Cranes, blasting charges, construction crews, that's at least a month minimum

[analog frigate]

such a thing like the teleport rooms could be dug out and furnished in around a year

[finite vine]

the log you are talking about isn’t talking about opening the meteor for the first time, it’s talking about digging into the inner part of the meteor. sleepers were already a problem.

[quick grove]

Do we have a good time frame when project insight started?

[analog frigate]

no

we know basically nothing about insight

[quick grove]

Because i know project insight was a thing to do with mwp

[eternal talon]

That's what I said

Sleepers already out and about

[eternal talon]

What is insight

[analog frigate]

only thing that we know about insight is that they are responsible for the artefacts, are highly confidential and have a lot of control over everything

[eternal talon]

Wdym responsible for the artifacts

[quick grove]

I mean if they built multiple of those machine's congrats to them for building something that big so quick

[analog frigate]

they are the ones that handle them

it's not quick

within a year they can be finished

[finite vine]

they are responsible for using and manipulating the artifacts, they did not create them. they were found within the inner. it’s called the Hammerstein collection.

[analog frigate]

yes

sorry i worded it incorrectly

[eternal talon]

Building underground takes much longer than building on the surface

[quick grove]

The big 4 death ray looing machine

[analog frigate]

there are a lot of unknowns

[quick grove]

Yes

[analog frigate]

we don't know the properties of the bedrock there, we don't know the tools they used

[eternal talon]

7 drillheads

[analog frigate]

yeah but what kind

[eternal talon]

Likely diamond

What else?

[analog frigate]

what material, size, shape

many other things

[eternal talon]

Probably pretty duckin big

Thinking like the drill dozer from drg

[analog frigate]

diamond is strong but not practical for such a thing

[finite vine]

we don’t even know when the complex became completely overwhelmed by sleepers, or if the complex even became completely overwhelmed at all. they probably had like 5 years to build the machines. from like 2057 to like 2056 or something like that.

[analog frigate]

yeah

4,5,6

something around that

iirc the last log we have is 2058 or something

[quick grove]

Someone talked about a special drill head i think don't remember who by

[eternal talon]

In logs. Miners complaining about breaking equipment

[quick grove]

Someone said they need a new drill head thats better than the ones they have i don't remember something like that

[analog frigate]

gianna

[eternal talon]

Gianna?

Who dat

[analog frigate]

she asked for them to check if Nyxos had anything stronger since their drill heads were constantly breaking

[analog frigate]

SMC mining dept worker

[quick grove]

Yes there we go

[eternal talon]

That the person who wrote the logs about digging and that one guy's suicide?

I mean that's also another thing

[analog frigate]

you can just check chase's database

he has personnel listed

[eternal talon]

Probably needs to be AT LEAST a man sized drill to fully woodchipper somebody

[analog frigate]

https://www.notion.so/f46c0c48ecc14044b46d3093a7bf80cb?v=b161b05ae0c549489a92d244962c4167

[eternal talon]

Whose chase?

[analog frigate]

chase is the guy that made the pinned timeline

[eternal talon]

What was the log?

With the drill that woodchipper'd a guy

[analog frigate]

new equipment needed

oh

that's incident report

[eternal talon]

Did it say anything about the drill we could use to scale it?

[analog frigate]

no

just how jordy killed himself

[dim scroll]

Oops

wrong channel for memes

😳

[eternal talon]

Rip jordy

[eternal talon]

Was he afraid of being turned?

[analog frigate]

he took the better way out

[dim scroll]

@eternal talon

Man just went Adios

[eternal talon]

Well I mean, it was big enough for him to walk into

I'd say that's pretty bloody big

[quick grove]

He smelled death he knew something was coming

[analog frigate]

also again lostty, go and read all the logs or at least most

[eternal talon]

Too many. I'd forget them by the time I'm done

Memory problems

[analog frigate]

definitely not

[analog frigate]

my memory is for sure worse than yours

i've forgotten things while i say them too many times to admit

[eternal talon]

Early onset dimentia?

[analog frigate]

sadly seems like it

but anyway

i suggest you read them

[eternal talon]

Aren't not all of them on the wiki?

[analog frigate]

all of them are there

duck made pages for every rundown's logs

[eternal talon]

Like those somebody mentioned yesterday that were from the website

[analog frigate]

they are on the wiki

he's also working on adding the santonian website terminal corrupted folder logs to the wiki

[harsh saffron]

added them earlier, now we should have every log on the wiki
I'm just gonna move them if we find them in case we get an extension

[sly sinew]

can someone give me a summary of what exactly is Red Alpha/desert and how are we getting teleported to it

[eternal talon]

it's an possibly multi-dimentional allen planet.

[eternal talon]

we are getting teleported to it with the use of the Black Crystals native to Red Alpha and the W.M.P.

both found in the Meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

it is assumed the meteor is a hunk of red alpha that was yeeted through space towards earth. as to why, be it a geological event or an intentional act by an intelligent alien species, is yet to be known.

[sly sinew]

Ah ty I'm bad at piecing together logs

[eternal talon]

take everything relating to red alpha with a grain of salt though

we still have very little information to work with regarding it.

@analog frigate jesus.. what the fuck is going on in this log

did he stab a shooter?

... did he just say "we all carry the virus now"???

i hear a blood door

[analog frigate]

he said "we're all infected now"

and he is right

[eternal talon]

dauda worked for drefus industries.. what is that?

[analog frigate]

everyone has NAM-V

[analog frigate]

parent company of SMC

[eternal talon]

oh dear, i hear tons of sleepers at the end of that log

what are they eating?

if dauda just got in a hsu

[eternal talon]

but wouldn't he be dead?

[analog frigate]

HSUs

[eternal talon]

what about hsus

[analog frigate]

they slow the speed of NAM-V infecting the person, possibly reversing it

[eternal talon]

what were the sleepers attacking?

[analog frigate]

not known

[maiden crystal]

oh my god

my dads down there

[eternal talon]

drefus industries are a super conglomerate?

[eternal talon]

down where today?

[maiden crystal]

you know by the door

[eternal talon]

the omega door, in d1?

[maiden crystal]

in the dark ominous hallway filled with metal

by the sleepy monsters

but yes drefus make everything, even the popcorn

[eternal talon]

log just said that

[maiden crystal]

well they don't make it, they own the companies that make everything

[eternal talon]

yok-11?

what was under construction for 20 months?

"no threat to you or your health" hahahahahahahahahaha

once it adapts to your species, it's game over

[finite vine]

the complex. the plans for garganta were made in 2049 and construction started in 2050

[eternal talon]

the innards of the meteor are emitting... heat?

[analog frigate]

encryption error

corruption

exists on a lot of logs

[eternal talon]

well i get that, that one just didn't look like one

i dunno

[dense saffron]

there was a massive explosion (described by schaefer as a "laser") a bit after this log

[eternal talon]

whats with the code at 1100m "RESIST"

[analog frigate]

schaeffer log

[eternal talon]

yeah, what do

[analog frigate]

one of C expeditions, r5

[eternal talon]

ah

what was it for

[analog frigate]

i don't remember currently

you can check the r5 log wiki seeing as you appear to be already on it

[eternal talon]

i'm just scrolling down the log page

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Logs

[analog frigate]

ah don't do that

[eternal talon]

why?

[analog frigate]

duck made pages with logs of each rundown

[finite vine]

it was an audio log. it was the password to a hidden terminal in r5c3

[eternal talon]

i'm literally half-way through

[eternal talon]

what did the terminal do

[analog frigate]

gave you an audio log

[finite vine]

it only had an audio log on it

[analog frigate]

by schaeffer

[finite vine]

that was the only purpose

[analog frigate]

yes

[eternal talon]

what the.. long clear tubes? is that inside the meteor?

[finite vine]

yea. they are tunnels

within the meteor/ the egg.

[eternal talon]

allen tunnels?

or human tunnels

[finite vine]

probably alien

[eternal talon]

"clear tubes" doesn't sound like a natural formation

[finite vine]

sleeper infestation

[analog frigate]

they are described as being similar to lava tubes/channels

[eternal talon]

no

[analog frigate]

in another log

[eternal talon]

it literally says "THEY DO NOT APPEAR TO BE LAVA TUBES"

[analog frigate]

ah

[eternal talon]

the very next sentince

[analog frigate]

yeah

similar

but not

since the composition is too dense

but structure is similar

[eternal talon]

also lava tubes are not clear

your thinking of obsidian,

which is a solid rock

[analog frigate]

that's not what clear exactly means

[eternal talon]

lava doesn't make glass

[analog frigate]

it does

[finite vine]

it’s still hard to tell if the log that Schaffer wrote on october, 2053 was describing the inside of the meteor, or just right outside of the meteor. you know the log saying that the mole broke through some kind of barrier?

[analog frigate]

obsidian is glass

[eternal talon]

obsidian is not see-through or clear at all

[analog frigate]

glass isn't necessarily see-through or clear

[eternal talon]

yet these pipes are.

[analog frigate]

it's the physical internal structure that characterises it

[eternal talon]

and they are described as 'pipes'

[analog frigate]

don't take things too literally

they are described as some tunnels

[eternal talon]

word is gospel spoken from god

what is nadir

[finite vine]

“clear” means that there is open space/ air within the egg

[analog frigate]

clear as in they are not filled with anything

[analog frigate]

yeah

[finite vine]

yea

there are also talk of chambers deeper inside the egg. these chambers were where the hammerstein collection and the matter wave projector were found.

[eternal talon]

ha.

[finite vine]

this was before the complex was even built

[eternal talon]

wtf killed the crew then?

[finite vine]

we don’t know.

no idea actually. maybe an earthquake?

[eternal talon]

now what in the fuck is this

this is way before we let the fliers through

so what's this?

[analog frigate]

that's one of the mentioned but unknown sleepers

the shadow variant

[eternal talon]

a shadow, yeah. clearly

but no shadows can teleport

and we haven't seen a shadow flier

[analog frigate]

we do know

dirty work for KDS and SMC

clint replied to burn them

[finite vine]

well yea... he was talking about the bodies that were already dead. we don’t know how those people died.

he didn’t kill them, he only burned the bodies

[analog frigate]

we can assume he somehow "disposed" of them before burning them

[finite vine]

that’s the log describing a miner that saw some creature really deep in the mine.

[eternal talon]

allen chambers and corridors?

[finite vine]

not really

[analog frigate]

it's a part of the gustavo situation

gustavo was someone high ranking in the yucatan peninsula

[finite vine]

gustavo literally said he does not know what killed them.

true

[analog frigate]

hm

[eternal talon]

also how tf did they get down to the inner to get samples without being torn apart by the precursors of the sleepers?

musta not been that many then

[eternal talon]

@dull crest allen tileset when

[finite vine]

facts. i’ve been literally hoping for it since r1

[eternal talon]

not sleeper. ALLEN

sleeper stuff would probably be organic in nature

[finite vine]

true. alien would be more organized/ constructed

[finite vine]

they had legion and kds provide support

[eternal talon]

that's a neat name, precursors.

the origin of the sleeper infection on earth

[finite vine]

I remember reading your theory on why the science team with Bishop lost contact with garganta knfe they jumped to planet alpha. I think you said that they wanted to try to kill gustavo, but I honestly don’t think it goes that far.

[analog frigate]

wasn't mine

[finite vine]

I think it was ur theory. cant remember thou

[analog frigate]

punkthulhu's

[finite vine]

oh ok

[eternal talon]

ah, i see it now

[finite vine]

if only we had a time stamp for that log

[eternal talon]

well we can assume it was sometime around whenever they were sending expeditions into the inner

[finite vine]

yea it would have to be before they did that

[eternal talon]

allen sleepers pog

new enemy type

[finite vine]

yea probably another intelligent species. kinda like the engineers from alien.

[jovial lark]

metro vibes

[eternal talon]

DarkEye V-Drum gas mask gives MEGA metro vibes

is he talking about sleepers?

[dim scroll]

.mp3.mpeg

😳

[eternal talon]

that's just the format it gave me when i downloaded from the wiki

[harsh saffron]

yeah .mp3 is just part of the name as well as the format ^^

[eternal talon]

allen?

we got any leads on this thing?

AHA!! 'WHOEVER CREATED the fossil(the meteor)!!"

ALLENS CONFIRMEDED

[analog frigate]

why does stokes saying "whoever" mean that aliens made the meteor somehow

[eternal talon]

that the meteor was MADE

[analog frigate]

that's not definitive

[eternal talon]

but-but-but

[analog frigate]

no

general wording doesn't prove that

also stokes can't know

she has expressed in other logs that she is completely in the dark about the whole thing

[eternal talon]

if you had to give someone a rundown, on the jidst of the lore with theory, what would you say? allen theory is by far and away the most likely so far

i get what you mean entirely, but at the same time i wanna keep digging and living my dream

allens man. it's always allens.

[analog frigate]

i understand why you think the alien theory is what it is

it's just that it's taken too far out

i agree, something had to make the artefacts

[eternal talon]

the inner isn't sleeper made

[analog frigate]

but everything else is kinda based loosely on that

[eternal talon]

if it's composition is being compared to stone

[analog frigate]

i'm not talking about that

the meteorite is organic

[eternal talon]

i'm sorry?

[analog frigate]

organic in nature

it's naturally formed

i think i worded it wrong

[eternal talon]

very very so

organic means biological

[analog frigate]

yeah i realised

[eternal talon]

you mean geological (I HOPE)

[analog frigate]

no

natural

[eternal talon]

yes, geological

bloody rocks

dirt

gravel

stone

[analog frigate]

yes

and cretasium

[eternal talon]

SO GEOLOGICAL

ahh, i think.. this can be solved with a simple poll

Poll time:
do you believe the ancient precursor allen theory is LIKELY to be true.
agree:🟢

disagree:🔴

neither agree nor disagree :🟠

[analog frigate]

i don't think a poll proves it

proof and facts do

[eternal talon]

no, it wouldn't prove it

[analog frigate]

this is just opinion

[eternal talon]

but it's consensus from multiple people's research and opinion, yes.

not just my own

[analog frigate]

well i don't disagree nor agree

[eternal talon]

there you go

[harsh saffron]

as in: Aliens that are more advanced than us exist at all
or: Aliens that existed on earth/created humans?

[eternal talon]

the log that kills 90% of theory on red alpha because it's inconsistent

[eternal talon]

ancient allens from red alpha sent the meteor to earth to try and escape the parasite/virus. that theory, the one i've been rolling with for quite a while now

i'm saying precursor of the infected on EARTH, not precursors of humans

sorry for the misunderstanding

[harsh saffron]

ah np

[finite vine]

i don’t think the fossil is the meteor. i think it is inside it

[sly sinew]

the warden is an artificial intelligence? I just read the doc and I never knew that I always thought the warden was a mysterious figurehead

[eternal talon]

yeah, no. the warden is a hyper-intelligent AI that took over the biocom systems and gained control of all the prisoners and HSUs.

not really anything can stop him either though, more than 99% of humans on the surface are dead.

[sly sinew]

Dang that's wild skynet is in charge of the rest of the human race, also there's only four prisoners?

[eternal talon]

no. afik, there are thousands

we are just the wardens' most competent and 'elite' team

[sly sinew]

Ah

[eternal talon]

in c3, we are literally sent to be a decoy team for another team doing an expedition

[harsh saffron]

yeah, we are not alone ^^

[eternal talon]

woah, sauce for pic?

what rundown?

[harsh saffron]

thats KDS Deep in R5E1 last room

[eternal talon]

i'll have to watch a vid

thanks

[eternal talon]

so what's the deal with d4 not being canon?

[analog frigate]

sorta funky

doc said that we shouldn't look too deep into it since it's a concept only

it was deleted and we thought he went a bit too far and over an NDA

but then he said that he just wanted to leave the challenge of figuring it out for us and to not be pinged constantly

so there is a bit of confusion on if it's canon or not

[eternal talon]

well i mean the data cubes were tampered with, so that's a start, is it not?

the data cubes are of allen origin, right?

or are they human made to work with the wmp

[analog frigate]

but it introduces parallel dimensions and other things that literally break every single aspect of our current lore

and make everything possible and likely

[eternal talon]

when did it introduce parallel dimentions?

i've played it before

all it does is teleport you around a bit

[analog frigate]

how we teleport to another part of what seems garganta

[eternal talon]

probably same way the flyers do

[analog frigate]

but sleepers and items re-spawn without any rhyme nor reason

i don't remember exactly what causes it to be an issue

but i remember that it completely breaks things and figuring it out is illogical

[eternal talon]

normal data cubes teleport us to red alpha when picking them up

it only makes sense ones tampered by humans would do some funky shit

i think it's just locally teleporting us

[analog frigate]

yeah but this is more than funky

[analog frigate]

it's not

[eternal talon]

again how

[analog frigate]

there is no how

[eternal talon]

i don't remember any timey wimey stuff

and lockers didn't respawn last time i ran d4

[analog frigate]

there isn't time travel

someone else can clarify why exactly it breaks our established logic

all i remember from that conversation a while ago, is that it just doesn't make any sense and if it is canon, then gtfo lore is broken

[eternal talon]

what about it is wierd? i do not at all remember what you are going on about

and if it's like your describing, i certainly would have remembered

how would gtfo lore be broken

[tulip badger]

Hey, so I've heard a few people tell me that the Complex in inside the Chicxulub crater, is this actually true or are my friends just pulling my leg?

[analog frigate]

it in fact is

[eternal talon]

it is. we got coordinates too

[analog frigate]

more precisely, a sinkhole within the yucatan peninsula.

in the city of merida

[tulip badger]

Alrighty, so it is at or near the crater that wiped out the dinosaurs?

[analog frigate]

it is in it

[tulip badger]

Oooooh nice

[eternal talon]

it is. the meteor is under gargantua

[analog frigate]

they even dug into the meteorite that killed the dinosaurs

[eternal talon]

^sleepers came from here

[tulip badger]

Also, I'm interested in getting into the lore of the game, is there anywhere specific I should start?

[eternal talon]

pins

[analog frigate]

i suggest looking at the first pin

it's a summary/faq of the currently lore

[eternal talon]

doesn't include everything though. just confirmed stuff

[analog frigate]

yes

[tulip badger]

~~Can't wait for rundown 23 to have infected Dinosaurs ~~

[analog frigate]

only mentions theories

but generally it's an introduction

[eternal talon]

nah, allens are more likely than dinos

[tulip badger]

Oh, I was joking

[eternal talon]

i was not.

[tulip badger]

Though I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of dinosaur-like creatures, hulking things with heaps of teeth.

Also technically speaking, isn't the infection considered Alien?

[eternal talon]

the infection is also, allen.

[analog frigate]

depends how you look at it

[eternal talon]

yes.

[analog frigate]

it has been on earth longer than humans

compared to it, we are aliens

it's about how you view it

[eternal talon]

that's not the city these coords are at.. it's "Lxil" how accurate are these?

[analog frigate]

it is in merida

[eternal talon]

21 08 57 n 89 29 32 w

[analog frigate]

because they say it's made in the sinkhole in merida

[eternal talon]

is that the region or something?

[analog frigate]

yes

yucatan state

[eternal talon]

it's like literally right outside the town of lxil

[analog frigate]

it's right next to merida

[eternal talon]

ah, yes. i see it on google maps now

merida is a giant city to the southwest

[tulip badger]

well it didn't initially come from earth did it?

[eternal talon]

no

it came from the interplanetary possibly interdimensional location known to the community as "red alpha"

not to be confused with the mars mission. also called red alpha.

[analog frigate]

the rocket sent was called that

but it's unimportant to lore so confusion is mostly avoided

[eternal talon]

big words means big brain

[eternal talon]

in regards to alot of the current speculation and theories by the community you could always ask either me, Daraxus, Merv, Skyrope, Saint-Funky, Infinite Duck, LilianaMirrors, or Punkthulhu

we are the most active people in this channel.. unless i am forgetting someone, who i'm sure will remind me swiftly

[tall anchor]

EF01 is the canonical ‘code name’ for the planet

[dull crest]

Tim Allen, of Home Improvement? I dunno man, seems a bit off?

[quick grove]

Lol

[quick grove]

I feel very special seeing my name being mentioned

[harsh saffron]

I always felt like EF01 is supposed to be the name of the "expedition", so something like Apollo 11/13 for space missions.

By your command, this is security operative Bishop requesting EF01 clearance. [Pause] Clearance has been granted. EF01 is operational. You may proceed Dr. Stokes.
and
This is doctor Durant, EF01 has arrived.
at least make it sound like that to me

https://twitter.com/stevebsteve2/status/1488548346411188226
GTFO twitter account casually confirming the time travel theory 👀

stevebsteve (@stevebsteve2)

GTFO just keeps getting better and better. So atmospheric. Not a lot of lore so far. But you know it’s awesome when a good squad of friends makes a 6 hour session fly by #gtfothegame @GTFOthegame

Twitter · Feb 1, 2022, 4:22 PM

[sacred moon]

so, who can elaborate?

[tough egret]

I'm sure it's just a joke on how 6 hours flew by for those guys however it would be wicked if they were confirming it.

[harsh saffron]

yeah most likely that, would have been funny tho ^^

[crisp sage]

Nah yeah it's just them saying how a good group can make the time fly

Which is very true

[dim scroll]

"Not a lot of lore so far"

😔

[harsh saffron]

In B1 of all places ^^

I think there's like 5 logs there
But tbf if you are a new player and don't know about the terminal logs and are used to cutscenes from other games I can see what they mean ^^

[solar nova]

Does anyone remember the log that had either a receiver or sender that was unknown but can be identified via their personnel ID?

[harsh saffron]

I think there are a few of those

We have that audio log mentioning a personnel id and we don't know the actual person that it belongs to

[harsh saffron]

Do you mean this one?
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs#WRU-TYR

[solar nova]

I don't think so, I believe it was related to DeepScan, but I'd need to check.

Any personnel IDs w/out explicit reference to a person would be nice to have a list of, though.

[harsh saffron]

We had this one in R5 with the id B014
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_005_Logs#WKRP-817-CIN.LOG
and we only found out thats Gallus Hammerstein with this corrupted logs for R6
https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs#MAH-HS-666.LOG

And I didn't even add that to the characters page yet smh

[quick grove]

You wanna die? (just joking)

[quick grove]

Fool you underestimated my power

[harsh saffron]

something something high ground

• I mean: don't try it anakin

[quick grove]

Its over Anakin i have the high ground

[harsh saffron]

oh yeah, didn't watch these in like 10 years ^^

[quick grove]

Lol

Anyway

Time travel isn't possible

Suck my left nut if you disagree

See i left you with 2 choices you either suck or agree @harsh saffron

Hehe

Gonna answer buddy @harsh saffron

[harsh saffron]

No

[quick grove]

You can't choose that as an answer

Either two

[harsh saffron]

Both

[quick grove]

Lmfao

Wait what

You c- you can't do that

No

[harsh saffron]

Just went through all logs again to check and I'm pretty sure the only ID without a known employee is indeed C085, who is mentioned in the first audio log by dr stokes in R6C1.

[solar nova]

Thanks.

[solar nova]

DeepScan does have it too, but it appears to be marked in the database, so all g.

[harsh saffron]

Ah ok ^^

[eternal talon]

Noooo... c'mon this has to be a joke. No way on earth TTT is true. It can't be

[real pewter]

so, time travel?

[eternal talon]

NO

We must bury this like KDO buried the Red Cross

Incendiary weapons have been green-lit

[crisp sage]

It is a joke lmao

Y'know, the entire thing about time flying when having fun with friends and shit

[eternal talon]

🔥

[crisp sage]

Oh I see it now.

BREH

[eternal talon]

NO

🔥 🔥 🔥

@quick grove help me

[real pewter]

it is time travel my dude

back

back to the past

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate get the hair spray, we need more flames

[real pewter]

the warden do knows about the "past"

[eternal talon]

DOESNT MEAN TIME TRAVEL

anyone can know about the past.

because it's the past.

[real pewter]

why so specific tho

schaeffer in A1 said specifically that one word

[eternal talon]

NO

[real pewter]

like

why would he said that

when he can say: "The warden Brainwash you"

[eternal talon]

because the hsus make you forget.

[real pewter]

but do you know how long schaeffer has been out of the hsu?

[eternal talon]

because he's fucking insane

[sacred moon]

you, as the player, don't know about the past.
The Warden does.

That's how I always interpreted that audio log at that door in A1

[real pewter]

why "the past"

and not some other word

[eternal talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nb3q1oROOg

[celest pagoda]

aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[analog frigate]

"the past" is used to talk about the past of the KSOs/prisoners

since they have been basically brainwashed, their memories removed, only the warden knows what happened before

[eternal talon]

that's what i said

[subtle verge]

Oh my. I missed some good content.

[analog frigate]

not really

[subtle verge]

/s

sweating nervously

Reading that tweet makes me laugh, actually. That has to be someone who frequents this channel and knows that meme.

[analog frigate]

well calle does read the chat

[eternal talon]

i find it so wierd that the lore channel is basically it's own group of people

i don't really ever see anybody from the rest of the discord hop by except for one or two people every now and then asking basic questions

[analog frigate]

i don't do anything in other channels

i sit here and wait for things to happen

[harsh saffron]

lies! you comment on punks cat pics!😡

[analog frigate]

mm true

[subtle verge]

I really only frequent the lore, pics, and wiki channels.

I haven't even opened up the general chat since I've been a part of this server.

[analog frigate]

i have sometimes

it's chaos

so i just don't go there

and that reminds me, i haven't finished the transcript of prisoner's audio logs

[eternal talon]

that dauda one was interesting

i just wanna know what the sleepers were attacking

like if he was trapped with others and entered an hsu to escape, and watched the others get torn apart while going into cryo

[harsh saffron]

I would imagine since we dont hear other ppl, that they just try to break down the door (its literally the same sound thats playing on blood doors) and then just them entering the room and trying to find ppl to kill

[eternal talon]

well i mean it was the 'attacking' sounds

[harsh saffron]

yeah I mean while he was still recording its the blood door sound

after that is normal attacking sounds true

[eternal talon]

blood door is just sfx of them beating on a door

[eternal talon]

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beat you to it, @quick grove

[quick grove]

Yep

Anyway time travel would be lazy writing teleportation seems more likely because if allens had the same technology why wouldn't they then use it to stop the NamV

The crystal are a big part in this whole thing

[subtle verge]

I discredit all ideas of aliens because of this one easy trick (Doctors hate him!):

This is the peak human form. You may not like it, but this is perfection.

[analog frigate]

he's so buff that even bullets do nothing!

[eternal talon]

here is your emoticon, merv.

[gentle moon]

Can the helmets/masks be removed, just wondering or are they stuck onto the prisoners? Like I know it would be unwise to take them off in the unhealthy environment.

[analog frigate]

as far as we know they can be removed

but the prisoners physically cannot do it themselves unless commanded

[gentle moon]

Got it, thank you.

[eternal talon]

like mind control? i wasn't under the impression that's how the hsus work

[analog frigate]

not the HSUs

the neural cortexes

[analog frigate]

ty duck

[eternal talon]

what is that

[analog frigate]

🤨

every KSO has one

[eternal talon]

what is it

[analog frigate]

a neural cortex

[eternal talon]

WHAT DOES IT MEAn

WHATS IT MADE OF WHAT DOES IT DO WHY DO THEY DIE?

[dim scroll]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_cortex

[analog frigate]

like a kind of chip directly attached to the neural system

[dim scroll]

😳

[analog frigate]

that's the cerebral cortex funky

[dim scroll]

ye

[analog frigate]

not what neural cortex means

[eternal talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEyUeCyXl1Q That is a VERY old reference

[dim scroll]

Though i expect it to be the part where the chip is placed

😳

Or for the chip to act like the cerebral cortex

[analog frigate]

i expect it to be on the part where the spine connects to the brain

[analog frigate]

not exactly

it's like a BCI

[eternal talon]

but why, is there a chip in their brain?

[analog frigate]

control

[eternal talon]

what's a bci

[harsh saffron]

thx for reminding me about these, they are awesome ^^

[dim scroll]

c o n t r o l

Let's see

[analog frigate]

brain control interface

[dim scroll]

google payday 2 BCI

[analog frigate]

already a thing that exists

[dim scroll]

Le funnee

[analog frigate]

basically it reads the neural patterns of the brain and can stimulate cells to cause certain actions

[dim scroll]

Surprisingly the warden can't use it to transform the prisoners into emotionless war machines

😔

[gentle moon]

But the helmet can be removed from a fellow dead prisoner?

[eternal talon]

don't the primary 4 have more self-control than the other prisoners?

[analog frigate]

the legion program and BIOCOM already have

[eternal talon]

to what extent?

[analog frigate]

as said prior, only if commanded to do so

[dim scroll]

We don't know shit about that

We only know that schaeffer managed to do so