gtfo-lore

[maiden crystal]

the circle at the beginning of alpha 1 is a circle of salt, to keep time travelling spirits away from the time travelling plants

[timid palm]

Could be a dumb lore question but I read like a full thing about the lore, so is “the egg” is gargantua built inside of it? Or is gargantua built like connected to it and that’s what we see with those big drill level room sets?

[eternal talon]

oh god your going to sent him crazy with that line

[eternal talon]

no, it's either the, or in the, meteor.

[timid palm]

What??? Sorry I can’t understand that

[eternal talon]

it is connected to the complex at the very bottommost levels where the miners drilled into it.

[timid palm]

Oh ok

[eternal talon]

it's not man-made.

[timid palm]

So basically the complex is built on top of the egg

[eternal talon]

it's not man-made. it's either THE meteor, or inside the meteor. it's from red alpha.

[eternal talon]

i guess? depends on alot of things.

[timid palm]

Weird the lore for this game hurts my brain

So the meteor and the egg could be 2 different things

[maiden crystal]

No @timid palm , the crator is the suspected impact site of the meteor that scientists expect may have wiped out the dinosaurs (true story)

[eternal talon]

i don't think it was an intentional thing.

[eternal talon]

yes.

[maiden crystal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater

[timid palm]

And basically the egg is in that radius and the complex is built on top

[analog frigate]

not exactly

the radius of the mine is the Chicxulub crater

[timid palm]

Christ

[analog frigate]

more precisely, inside a sinkhole within the city of Merida, Yucatan

[timid palm]

And then so did NAM-V come from mining into the egg? I’m a bit lost on where that actually comes from

[analog frigate]

it came from within the meteorite

[eternal talon]

red alpha, originally, but on earth? yes. same with the parasite.

[analog frigate]

also what egg are you referring to?

[timid palm]

The big node of “iridium”

[analog frigate]

oh, that isn't connected

[maiden crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4IwQnPXO0A&list=PLxG2cStugOy0w3uhHPkeLX_nKa3qGOK9Z once you finish the rundown, or before if you don't care about spoilers, here's some great content on the lore up to last rundown all in one place

[analog frigate]

the mine was originally built as an iridium mine

since prices had skyrocketed

[timid palm]

And the mine is the complex

[analog frigate]

yes

Garganta

[analog frigate]

also that video is quite outdated

[maiden crystal]

yes because iridium is used in this world for (as i understand it) large scale storage devices (like a hard drive x a billion)

[timid palm]

So bam-v origin is from the red alpha, but also in the meteor

[eternal talon]

i'll watch it anyway later. to see what it says

[analog frigate]

not exactly

earth got NAM-V on it through the meteorite

[eternal talon]

meteor is from red alpha aswell. nam v came to earth WITH the meteor

[timid palm]

Oh I see now

[maiden crystal]

meteor is from the future

[analog frigate]

we don't know about the presence of NAM-V on red alpha

[maiden crystal]

sent back in time by merv

[eternal talon]

it and the parasite came in the meteor

[timid palm]

So basically it’s not like a space meteor it got magic-Ed here from the red alpha

[maiden crystal]

no it's more like time cop

[eternal talon]

your going to make him blow his brains out when he gets back online

[analog frigate]

we don't know how it arrived

[timid palm]

Ah alright

[maiden crystal]

he will be ok

[timid palm]

It’s just kinda there

[maiden crystal]

i will go back to the future to recover his body

Ice cream check that playlist

[analog frigate]

only thing we know is that it hit earth 65 million years ago

[maiden crystal]

the first vid is not the most recent theres 4 in there

[timid palm]

I’ll watch it once I’m home 👍

[maiden crystal]

yes and that was in the past, hence time travel confirmed

[timid palm]

Great

[eternal talon]

noooooooooooooooooo

[maiden crystal]

No, quit your job, leave your wife and watch it now on your childs ipad as you kick them out of the car

[timid palm]

Good thing I’m still in school 😎

[analog frigate]

also ice cream, i recommend reading this (or at least the file format you want)

[eternal talon]

bad cannibal, bad.

[timid palm]

I just got interested cause I saw a post on the Reddit about the lore

But it didn’t go over everything

[analog frigate]

well it goes pretty deep

[timid palm]

And so are people that are not in the complex have man-v also right?

[analog frigate]

meaning?

[timid palm]

So technically there could be sleepers on the surface

[analog frigate]

we don't know if NAM-V causes sleepers

[timid palm]

Oh I thought it did

[analog frigate]

or if the parasite that does cause sleepers escaped

[timid palm]

It took like 5 weeks and you just went primal mode

[analog frigate]

but yes, NAM-V destroyed the world

i suggest reading a file, it goes over it

[timid palm]

So basically the sleepers kinda just came with the meteor also

[maiden crystal]

it is lit, if you enjoy any kind of scifi horror feat ominous corporations underground ala Half Life/Portal, or Control

[analog frigate]

that's a part we aren't really certain about

[timid palm]

Not exactly humans infected with man-v but could be

The main question is never answered

[analog frigate]

they could've come from the meteorite or just workers that got infected

[timid palm]

Yeah

[analog frigate]

again, we don't know if NAM-V causes sleepers

there are a lot of connections

but nothing definitive

[maiden crystal]

i have definitive proof

[timid palm]

No 100% positive answer

[maiden crystal]

of all of my theories

[timid palm]

Just speculations

[analog frigate]

(as in no log proof)

[analog frigate]

yes

[timid palm]

I guess time will tell

[analog frigate]

yup

but again, i suggest reading the summary and faq

[maiden crystal]

yes..time

[timid palm]

Have we figured out what the “creature that walks and talks is”?

I think it’s in c2 logs

[maiden crystal]

yes

[timid palm]

And Schaefer is talking about it

Is it a sleeper or do we not know

[maiden crystal]

I actually, in all seriousness, have not heard of that

[analog frigate]

the talking schaeffer creature

one of the 3 unknown but mentioned sleepers

[timid palm]

There’s also a log in d1 I think that is a miner explains what seemed to be a sleeper just appearing by him

[analog frigate]

we know that it is a sleeper of sorts

[timid palm]

Which I thought was a floater but it sounds more like a striker

[analog frigate]

there are some theories about where it came from

but it's some kind of sleeper for sure

with the ability to mimic

[timid palm]

Just something we haven’t seen in game yet

[analog frigate]

yes

[timid palm]

Interesting

[analog frigate]

we also have 2 more unknown ones

[timid palm]

Same with the walking Schafer creature

Or talking I guess

I thought he was talking about a scout but they don’t speak

Nothing really does

[analog frigate]

well the description is very specific

[timid palm]

I couldn’t pick up much from it

[analog frigate]

cyan/green veins, multiple bodies fused into one, humanoid looking with something off

[timid palm]

And the paper thin skin

[analog frigate]

paper white

as in colour

[timid palm]

Which. Sounds similar to a sleeper

[analog frigate]

yes

[timid palm]

Wack

[analog frigate]

it's very likely it's a sleeper

but its origins are unknown

[timid palm]

But the fact it just appeared is weird

[analog frigate]

not very

mutation variations can appear

[timid palm]

I guess so it is some mix of the floaters powers and a sleeper

[analog frigate]

seeing how many sleepers there are in general, one being drastically different isn't unlikely

[timid palm]

That’s true

[analog frigate]

why floater powers?

[timid palm]

End of b1 they just like appear and chase you down

The miner said the creature just appears to

[analog frigate]

ah

that's a different creature

what we call the shadow variant

[eternal talon]

allens

oh

[timid palm]

Is it not the same portal magic the floaters have

[eternal talon]

those

[analog frigate]

it somewhat goes with the description but its properties are of a shadow

[timid palm]

Oh weird

Oh I get what you mean

[analog frigate]

we have the talking schaeffer creature, shadow variant and the pmother as things that are mentioned but never seen

[timid palm]

So more like a shadow that reveals itself

[analog frigate]

it sounds like it

since the worker saw it's shape, not shadow

[eternal talon]

no, the shadows are completely invisible

[timid palm]

Big wack

[analog frigate]

shadow variant

[eternal talon]

of what

i'm confused

[analog frigate]

what the worker saw was a variant of shadows

some different mutation

and again, i suggest reading this

i have different format versions of it, if you prefer a docx or pdf

@timid palm

[pine rapids]

I'd love a pdf version of it!

[analog frigate]

@subtle verge our fancy structuring in the docx and pdf version fucked up the txt one

[pine rapids]

Thank you, I just got into the game and wanted to understand the lore

[analog frigate]

that's very good, the file will give you a bit higher than surface level of understanding about the lore

if you have any question, feel free to ask

[pine rapids]

I will thank you for being so welcoming

[subtle verge]

FFFFFFFFFF

[analog frigate]

i'm fixing it rn

[subtle verge]

Bless

I'd offer to help but "working" atm.

[analog frigate]

there are like 5 paragraphs between a sentence

[analog frigate]

it's aight

[eternal talon]

a different mutation of the shadows? the shadows are already mutations. (shadow striker, scout, giant, esc)

[analog frigate]

yes

imagine it like a tree

with the beginning being what makes a sleeper

then a human (i'm only talking about the humanoid ones since we don't know about the kraken or flyers)

from then on it goes into strikers or shooters (mothers and tanks are special case)

from then on there are hybrids, chargers, scouts, big boy variations, shadows

and from shadows

there is another mutation

which caused the shadow variant we see described

btw @shut mountain, could you remove the pin with the old version of the summary and faq, and pin this one instead?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15mz7Ly3dR9dn62-OTWl8UdPnp_5IYHc0uizfj2fxxoM/edit?usp=sharing

[finite vine]

I would just make it a google doc so you can update it whenever you want without having to upload a new one.

[shut mountain]

Can do. And yeah, maybe a google document would be a better idea

You can freely update it, and I would only need to pin it once

[timid palm]

damn read that guide thing and the sleeper anatomy

thats crazy that 9.8 billion people are just gone

and the fact only ~25k are left

not even from the sleepers either

[analog frigate]

well as you know, i'm a dumbass

probably will do that as well

if i had thought of it

and i can just add it in

[eternal talon]

what's the lore, on how we get our guns? is it like the cosmetics, where we just have a selection and we just get to 'keep' them and bring what we want before dropping down in hsu?

[analog frigate]

scavenging leftover KDS gear

whatever is left

[eternal talon]

well yeah, but before dropping down we get to pick what of a selection we want to bring with us

[analog frigate]

yeah

[eternal talon]

is there like an unplayable armory? in-between missions that the warden sends us to to make our loadouts before rundown missions?

we have a lot of tools and guns at our disposal

and literally zero personal storage* space

[analog frigate]

we don't know anything about it

[eternal talon]

does the warden send other teams to get guns for us?

[analog frigate]

we can presume there are some sort of armouries

[analog frigate]

we don't know

[eternal talon]

could we have a rundown mission where we can go into a security sector, get some uber powerful superweapon, and use it on the way back to extraction?

[analog frigate]

^

[eternal talon]

thinking like the bfg from doom

[analog frigate]

there is nothing about it at all

[eternal talon]

honestly surprised we don't see turrets, more automated defenses.

especially around the lower levels like in d tier.

where most of the security forces were

[analog frigate]

a while ago there was a talk about it

[eternal talon]

what like, level generated "hostile" tripmines and turrets?

[analog frigate]

about the possibility of security stations

[eternal talon]

yeah, maybe a security booth we could activate defenses on like ceiling turrets, then defend a certain number of waves there down like 3 hallways or something

[analog frigate]

yeah

it's an idea

but there is nothing in-game about it

[eternal talon]

is it the warden saying "OVERLOAD" on the PA during an overload sector?

also, what's the meaning behind the phrase; "it's gonna get darker before dawn!"

[analog frigate]

we don't know but most likely not

[analog frigate]

right before the end is the hardest

[eternal talon]

that doesn't make sense. it's not darkest right before the sun comes up

[analog frigate]

it is

[eternal talon]

how could it be?

[analog frigate]

"This is because the Earth's surface heats up during the day and then gradually cools during the night. Just before sunrise the ground has cooled for the longest period possible, so the temperature will then feel coldest compared to the beginning or middle of the night."

[eternal talon]

it's obscured by the entire planet until it comes back up again on the horizion

[eternal talon]

huh.

coldest, yeah that makes sense

[analog frigate]

heat has an effect on the air, which then has an effect on the light that passes through it

imagine the phrase like how tanks appear right before the end of a reactor

the darkest before dawn

[eternal talon]

do the characters have different unique dialogue for waves?

[analog frigate]

check the wiki pages

all lines are listed there

[lilac island]

I wish we had more voicelines for sleepers instead of the 2-3 same ones

It's still nice to hear it. Would be nice to have characters speaking by themselves sometime

[eternal talon]

what, like rambling?

[dim scroll]

i think he means the characters' voicelines

Which is kinda sad actually

They could have voicelines for tank like "What the hell is that thing"

Or voicelines for shadows

[cobalt mulch]

we got one for tank.. it screamed in d1 and the briish bloke said " ooo thats the sound of us dying" or sth

[dim scroll]

did it ?

i don't remember

[cobalt mulch]

but i get what u mean, more and variance

[dim scroll]

Chargers as well

Like "those black things again, beware of their fists"

Or, for mothers "do not let her hatch"

or "why is that thing here "

etc

[cobalt mulch]

seconded, would be cool.. kinda like the fall damage or bioscanner dialogues

[dim scroll]

Also unique voicelines for each alarms

They could be useful for new players actually

In reactor they could say "We have to find that terminal for the code"

[cobalt mulch]

and they could give mommy a snore of her own instead of charger brick-shuffling

[quick grove]

TTT

[dim scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/934432046313529384/lilcasper.v2-04122021-0001.mp4 this ? 😳

[cobalt mulch]

nailed it, aces :)

[lilac island]

so yeah the monsters are basically the thing

its a viral contagion

that colonizes cells

[subtle verge]

Wow, this is a surprisingly well done post. https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/sbso2y/whats_the_story_we_know_so_far_theories_and/

Aside from a few small errors, I give my props to this person.

[lilac island]

Wait. What do you mean mothers

New kind of monsters i haven't met yet

I'm afraid already

[subtle verge]

C2 and D3 beckon you.

[placid beacon]

@lilac island terrifying pieces of shit that refuse to die basically

[lilac island]

Fuck no

I'm out

At least scouts get down

[placid beacon]

true

its a similar sort of situation - if you dont kill it now, shit gets real really fast

[lilac island]

Sweet. Everything i hate

[lilac island]

Can't wait to beat B1 and get fucked by the brand new monster on my pregression

I feel like after doing a few run it become a piece of cake

[subtle verge]

To be fair -- Mothers die pretty easily if you know what you're doing and are quick about it.

[placid beacon]

for the inexperienced crew or if you mess up initially, it hurts

[lilac island]

I will see in time

[quick grove]

Yeah if you haven't done B1 yet i feel sorry for you when you have to experience D2 and D3

[tall anchor]

b1 is fun as heck

[knotty hollow]

B1 is ez mode what you talking about?
TBF I remember dying to the floaters of all things on B1 a few times.

[spare kiln]

Can we talk about the robots that are in d2 tho and why d2 is just vegetation (not gonna say the enemy as that a huge spoiler for that level)

[analog frigate]

no need to hold out on spoilers

people expect them here

the robots seem like general usage for something like heavy lifting

[azure mango]

they almost look like exoskeletons if I'm thinking of the right thing

[analog frigate]

there was an idea that they were exoskeletons but they can't fit a human without killing them

[spare kiln]

You are mostly correct and yeah they are a very tight fit

[analog frigate]

yeah, but there aren't any attachment points, if the arms were to bend back it would snap the user's arms from the shoulders, and there is a camera and location for internal processing

[azure mango]

what if that was the point to like crack someone open?

or something?

[spare kiln]

No it seems there usage is to much objects around

[analog frigate]

i doubt that robots that appear in a lot of places would be used to kill people

[azure mango]

i guess you're right and the lack of blood doesn't support the idea

[spare kiln]

Now the bring the question the chargers

[analog frigate]

what about them

[spare kiln]

I feel like d2 is there nest for them

Like everything there is chargers

Well beside that 1 tank

[azure mango]

well there's a lot of chargers in d4 too

[analog frigate]

do you have a picture of the nest?

[azure mango]

and d4 has that black pulsating blob in the ceiling that was in previous rundowns where chargers spawned

[spare kiln]

No not really as it was my first playthrough and I just have these questions since like d2 just entirely looked like a biodom

[analog frigate]

yeah that's how the nest sorta looks like

[analog frigate]

well then could you describe what you see?

[spare kiln]

Yeah I can

Like you know the secondary objective where you have to fight the meatballs the room before that is just very foggy and dark which had a shit ton of chargers with tiny blobs on the ground

It seemed like it was a nest before, but I guess everything just hatch

[analog frigate]

i see

well i'll need a picture of it before i can talk about it since i'm not certain what it is

[spare kiln]

I can defenity try tommorow to get a pic of it

Anyways that my question about d2 I have at the moment

[harsh saffron]

The blobs in d2 are there to indicate the presence of mothers from a gameplay perspective. But yeah I don't think we ever had that many blobs in such a high density before.

[analog frigate]

duck, do you have a picture of it?

[analog frigate]

ah

[harsh saffron]

thats not the room kinda like that (and its d2 as well)

[twilit girder]

seems normal to me

[analog frigate]

yeah those are mother sacks/blobs

[twilit girder]

I'd call them tumors

but

[harsh saffron]

yeah some rooms have just a bunch of these cramped onto like the smallest bridges ^^

[twilit girder]

they huge

[analog frigate]

they aren't tumors

sleepers are born from them

at least some sleepers

[spare kiln]

Ah no wonder the look wrong when they are out lol

But yeah it what infinite duck said it like those blobs

[twilit girder]

But, those sack are the weak points of tanks, so how would they be born for it

[spare kiln]

That's different tendo

[twilit girder]

Thats the part i dont get

[analog frigate]

the tumors are different

[twilit girder]

They used the same texture though

[analog frigate]

not exactly

the sacks have a different shape

and are less spherical

[spare kiln]

Tumor on monster are actually tumor, tumor on walls are not as they are egg sack that meaty

[analog frigate]

also iirc tumors are more pinkish and without veins

[quick grove]

Yes

Wait i tumors does a veins just not insane amount

[spare kiln]

Yea

[cobalt mulch]

cool animations on the egg sacks btw, creepy gestation

[spare kiln]

They be grooving to Michael Jackson latest beats

[quick grove]

Yes

[lilac island]

Cursed

Asf

[analog frigate]

<@&408548765599793173>

[eternal talon]

why are there so many of those in this server

[analog frigate]

it's a big server

with a lot of people that will just click on it and not look much

since it's apparently working well

[quick grove]

Why don't they get a bot that auto deletes the stuff

[harsh saffron]

there is, thats what's getting through

[eternal talon]

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrv

[quick grove]

Ah so they are by pashing it

Frostty

[opaque tinsel]

me and my buddy are looking for two people to do c1 with

wrong one sorry

[lilac island]

I need those fish emotes

[quick grove]

Welp

[spare kiln]

@analog frigate

This was i was talking about yesterday, and yeah it wasnt on d2 it was on d4 my mistake

[eternal talon]

what dis?

[quick grove]

Ye what is that

[gentle otter]

ayo what the fuck is that?

[finite vine]

kinda looks like an something that could of been extremely mutated by NAM-V. If I have to guess, it could of been growing inside the meteor or something like that.

looks wack

[eternal talon]

think i've seen a similar thing in dead space

[spare kiln]

Yeah, but it's a giant striker with a unbilcord attach to a meteor

You can find it in d4 at 3rd checkpoint before the end

@daring hare @gentle otter

It seems like what frosty said like if you look up close it just disfigured so badly you couldn't even tell what it was beside it being huge and have same head as a sleeper

[gentle otter]

Ohhh.

Okay.

[eternal talon]

what's going on here? sombody delete their messages?

[spare kiln]

What?

Don't think so

[eternal talon]

these messages seem all out of whack

like your responding to sombody but it's just your messages

[radiant cloud]

l o r e

[spare kiln]

Yeah it's a bit wack and yes l o r e

[eternal talon]

<@&408548765599793173>

ty

[analog frigate]

looks like a failed mutation, a genetic error

[spare kiln]

Ah thank you daraxus

[lilac island]

So I think this is a thing we're trying to figure out, where did this meteor come from?

[analog frigate]

currently it's presumed it's from red alpha

the way it got to earth is not really known

[lilac island]

Alright

Say the meteor came from red alpha, how would these parasites exist within the planet?

[analog frigate]

although it's assumed that it didn't just fly into the solar system but somehow teleported within the inner planet circle

[analog frigate]

we don't really know

[lilac island]

Alright

[lilac island]

That would explain our research into quantum tethering

[analog frigate]

it's not really research

the matter wave projector was found in the meteorite iirc

[lilac island]

The machine itself was found in the rock?

[analog frigate]

we just used it

seems so

then it was utilised by us

[lilac island]

Thought just the material could of been

[analog frigate]

the crystals were a part of the meteorite yes

[lilac island]

But the machine itself is where I'd ask if your sure

[analog frigate]

personally i'm not

but it appears that they found it, not made it

better if you check the logs to form your own opinion

[lilac island]

Sounds alright

I wasn't there for rundown 1.0 to 5.0 so trying to put the pieces back together

So the parasites and the virus came from the meteorite along with the crystals, they act as stabilisers for quantum tethering leading to the discovery of a different place that is as of yet unknown to us, parasites came loose from excavation along with the virus, the parasites was locked down but the virus wasn't and left only 25k alive due to extreme lock down is as far as I've gathered

That I think has been put as concrete

[analog frigate]

mostly yes

although the 25k alive estimate is done with calculations and simulations

it's very likely that that's the number of alive but it's still not log confirmed

[harsh saffron]

I just imagine the writers checking your estimate and including "24,999 ppl are still alive" in the next log just to troll ^^

[analog frigate]

that's possible

wouldn't be painful though

[harsh saffron]

true, thats close enough ^^

[lilac island]

One thing I'm curious about is are we all underground or are we sent down from the surface

[analog frigate]

sent down

[lilac island]

Presence of rain says the latter

But curious

[analog frigate]

from the surface facility Chixulub

that's above Garganta

[lilac island]

And the rest of the world?

[analog frigate]

we haven't seen it

[lilac island]

Hmm

[analog frigate]

we can only assume how it looks like

[lilac island]

So it's anyone's guess

[analog frigate]

one thing which is very odd to me is why we always drop when it's raining

[lilac island]

We came up with a theory about that

[analog frigate]

yes

but it depends on another theory being proven true

that being if NAM-V causes sleepers

or if it's something else

[lilac island]

Not exactly

[analog frigate]

why so?

[lilac island]

The parasite seems only to respond to people when they are walking

Not when another screeches

Or one dies

[analog frigate]

that's because they appear to use some sort of low to mid frequency echolocation

that's why lock melters and fog turbines don't wake them

[lilac island]

That would explain the clicking too when they wake

[analog frigate]

but for how punching in the face of a sleeper 8m away from them doesn't exactly wake them up, i'm not certain

[lilac island]

Game mechanic

[analog frigate]

seems to be yeah

[lilac island]

But it kinda works either way

[analog frigate]

true

[lilac island]

Rain drops creating noise

They still give off sound waves to be able to mask other sounds

If all you saw was noise you wouldn't know which one was a target

[quick grove]

But if you hit a hammer on the ground or against the wall everyone looking at you like a snack ye

[analog frigate]

because it produces low frequency sounds

of concrete being smashed of just metal being hit

[lilac island]

Makes sense

[quick grove]

That creates low freq

So the devs could be the funny ones and add a noise meter lmao

I mean they kinda already have

If you run insta awake

[analog frigate]

yes, but at some point they probably learnt that those sounds can be ignored

[quick grove]

If you normal walk they will instantly do the wierd glow

But if you crouch its just ye i guess

[lilac island]

Depends, why else would they drop if it was raining if not to stop the parasites from attacking the elevator?

[quick grove]

?

[analog frigate]

that's true

the elevator is loud as fuck

and we are going down a tubular shaft

[lilac island]

It's not a coincidence that it rains every time

[analog frigate]

the sound would echo down to the lowest levels

rain probably masks it in some way

[lilac island]

Must do

[quick grove]

Could explain blood doors

[lilac island]

Look at the clickers in The Last of Us

[quick grove]

Maybe they heard and were ape shit against a door

[lilac island]

I like your thinking

[quick grove]

That thing only relies on sound

[lilac island]

Echo location

Same as the sleepers

[analog frigate]

btw they also probably use pheromones to communicate in some way (at least at some point in their life) and they can feel the effect of light on their skin

[quick grove]

Ay thats just a thinging

[spare kiln]

Though the blobs on the walls the infect you shy away from the light

[lilac island]

Theory has been put out there aswell to scouts specifically

[quick grove]

Sleepers and spitters are light sensitive

[analog frigate]

they appear to feel higher frequency light more, since the green and red glowsticks both don't bother them (red glowsticks were for halloween)

[spare kiln]

Yeah I'm just putting it out their about the blobs that's all

[lilac island]

No pigmentation you said in the document @analog frigate

[analog frigate]

and higher frequency light is coincidentally absorbed more by the skin than lower frequency

[lilac island]

Making the victims of the parasite albinos

[quick grove]

Ah

[analog frigate]

i don't see how pigmentation has something to do with this

[lilac island]

Albinos

Sensitive to light

[analog frigate]

ah

[lilac island]

Skin condition

[analog frigate]

yeah good point

[lilac island]

Possibly why they've stayed underground

[quick grove]

Sleepers are already fuckin albinos because they be livin underground getting no sun

[lilac island]

Sensitive to UV rays, burns in sunlight

[quick grove]

Mmm crispy sleepers

[lilac island]

Potentially

I might say

[analog frigate]

we don't really know if they are affected by sunlight

[spare kiln]

Hm then what about the chargers and shadows?

[analog frigate]

we've never seen a humanoid sleeper in the sun

[quick grove]

I wonder if there is any evolved form of sleepers top side on earth that is if there is sleepers

[analog frigate]

chargers are just a mutation resulting in extreme skin pigmentation (leading to the black colour) and other things that lead to spikes and such to be formed

shadows are a complicated story

[lilac island]

Could be a form of carapace

[analog frigate]

they somehow either bend light around them, or literally don't have a physical form

the first option being more likely

[spare kiln]

Yeah which explains why the need of bio tracker

[analog frigate]

there is a theory about it

but i haven't developed it fully yet

[lilac island]

Form of active camouflage?

[spare kiln]

Possibly

[quick grove]

How the fuck they hiding there tounge then

[analog frigate]

they somehow appear to completely bend light around them, but leave a shadow

which means they do absorb light in the visible spectrum

[quick grove]

Ye

I'm confusion

[analog frigate]

but then i don't understand how we don't see their shape

[quick grove]

Yes

You see a shape until ot violates you

[analog frigate]

if a shadow exists, something has to block light to form it, and it will have to actually be visible always

[spare kiln]

Maybe it's like latte black where it absorbs light, but doesn't give a define feature

[analog frigate]

they don't reflect light, since we would see them

but they also don't absorb light somehow

since then we would see a perfect black shape of them

kinda like an object painted with the darkest paint in the world

no details visible

but you can still see the lack of light

[spare kiln]

Hm hopefully we get more info about the shadows since they are very confusing creatures

[lilac island]

May I ask do we have something as a representation of what's being said as plausible?

Say a insect of some kind?

[analog frigate]

i'll whip up a drawing of it

[dim scroll]

Chameleons ?

[analog frigate]

they still are visible

[quick grove]

Well you see the sleeper until its like right infront of you

[analog frigate]

this doesn't make sense on a physics base

[quick grove]

I know

[analog frigate]

they both don't absorb light and absorb it

they don't reflect it

[lilac island]

Not if it bends light around it

[quick grove]

Ye

[analog frigate]

and they don't appear to bend light, because then they wouldn't have a shadow

hmm

[spare kiln]

Yeah so everyone get a picture idea about them

[quick grove]

I think you only see that until its infront of ya

[analog frigate]

the fact that they're translucent is an issue

[lilac island]

Chameleon may actually be right

[dim scroll]

yup

if they were bending you'd see them purely opaque

[analog frigate]

yes

[dim scroll]

As no light would pass through them

[lilac island]

What if it isn't transparent?

[dim scroll]

However if they were not opaque, you'd see their organs

[quick grove]

[analog frigate]

the issue is that it is

[lilac island]

Ok run me through it

[analog frigate]

yeah they don't have any internals

we don't see the tongue stored anywhere

so they have properties of being invisible

but then they still don't make sense

[lilac island]

Cause all I'm thinking is active camouflage

[quick grove]

They don't have a device for that

[dim scroll]

"device" ?

This is not MGS lol

[analog frigate]

not only that, but active camouflage works by bending light

[lilac island]

Don't need a device if you can just blend into your environment like a chameleon but more advanced

[quick grove]

Maybe it's something to do with there body(for example like skin cells and cells and what not i don't know)

[analog frigate]

which they apparently don't do

[analog frigate]

then they would be opaque

if there are 2 people around it

since it would mimic the background behind it to hide

[quick grove]

Maybe the cells or skin has a way of bending light

[dim scroll]

They don't

[analog frigate]

but if there are two people, it would have to do it for both of their prespectives (which isn't possible to happen and not be seen)

[dim scroll]

otherwise you wouldn't see through them

[lilac island]

I'm just thinking active camouflage for the sake of simplicity

[dim scroll]

It's as if light passes through them

But at the same time it's bended

[analog frigate]

and they both do and don't absorb light

[quick grove]

Im tell yall it's something to do with there skin or skin cells or cells in there body

[lilac island]

There's no real way to compare or explain it

[analog frigate]

with modern day physics, we can't explain it

[lilac island]

So best way to put it

[analog frigate]

they have 2 opposing properties at the same time

[lilac island]

It's invisible because it is

[analog frigate]

that's the best we can do

[lilac island]

It's not a fun explanation

But it's the only one rn

[dim scroll]

If they were 100% opaque the answer would be easy

smh

😔

[quick grove]

I mean we've seen some wierd shit in GTFO maybe its a mutation to the cells or something

[lilac island]

It clearly is a mutation

But to compare it to something is impossible

[dim scroll]

Did anyone check if it has to do with light orientation ?

[analog frigate]

it doesn't

[dim scroll]

sad

[analog frigate]

but there is overlapping

as in, if you look at them to see through multiple skin layers, it gets blacker

which from a refraction standpoint again doesn't make sense

light would decrease with the first layer, and then increase with the second

so shadows are just magic

just like the plants

[lilac island]

So we believe the sleepers to be mutating into different variants due to the sleeper, shooter, giant, hybrid, charger, tank and others

[analog frigate]

the tanks and mothers are complicated

[lilac island]

But the rest aren't

[dim scroll]

Well they are made of several bodies

pM is even weirder

[analog frigate]

the rest of the humanoid ones are mostly mutated

[lilac island]

So they use biomass

[analog frigate]

that's different

that's the talking schaeffer creature

[dim scroll]

Not only that

Mother is made of at least 2 bodies

[analog frigate]

and we haven't seen the pmother

[lilac island]

That's made from multiple bodies?

[dim scroll]

Wasn't pM considered to be the big mother tho

[analog frigate]

could just be using both the arms and legs as actual legs

[analog frigate]

never linked

[dim scroll]

What about tank then ?

[lilac island]

One thing is certain I believe

[dim scroll]

3 mouths from a single humanoid ?

[lilac island]

The parasite clearly gathers biomass

[analog frigate]

still could be a mutation of sorts

that why i said the tanks and mothers are complicated

[dim scroll]

😔

[lilac island]

Not just that

[analog frigate]

they could be mutated but they also appear to be born as to have such mutations

[lilac island]

But the spitters too are literal forms of biomass

[analog frigate]

the spitters are odd

they are made by the sleepers somehow, not mutated from humans or something

[lilac island]

I don't think it's coincidence though

Sounds like they gathered biomass and have it secrete the blue liquid

Along with merging multiple bodies together like Necromorphs

[analog frigate]

we've figured out how they "spit"

they gather moisture and using high pressure, throw a couple litres at the player

dealing both blunt damage and giving infection

(they probably have some cyanobacteria on them to cause it, or just straight up the toxins)

[heady nest]

I have a lore: D1 is Deez Nutz

[pure folio]

Looks like a rundown of scientists who discovered dimensions and those dimensions contained these creatures also known as parasites. Some parasites are different than others. They breached through the portal and attacked our world. Then started to cause infections in humans. When the infected humans reach 100% they become one of them.

[analog frigate]

there are a couple things wrong with that

[quick grove]

Continue pls

[pure folio]

Yeah it's my theory

not entirely right but it could have be the cause from maybe another reality

[quick grove]

Nah

The parasite was found in a rock

[pure folio]

A rock!?

interesting

was the rock from space?

[analog frigate]

we don't know when dimensional travel happened, sleepers and the parasites were from the meteorite that was already on earth for 65 million years, only the flyers came through the portal after we left it open, the infection players receive is different

[pure folio]

oooh

[analog frigate]

also we don't know how the portal thing works at all

[quick grove]

Yes the crater center rock thingy the meteor

[pure folio]

these parasites came from space

[analog frigate]

i suggest checking the top pin in the chat

it has a summary and faq about lore

[quick grove]

Yep from a different planet because allens teleported a rock to Earth to find salvation but not knowing they doomed them self and earth as well

[pure folio]

This is some interesting lore right here

[analog frigate]

the lore is quite interesting

[quick grove]

Yes very interesting

And now everyone gone quite

[heady nest]

wait

what was the voice clips in C1 gates about

didnt get to hear it well

[analog frigate]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0_Logs

[quick grove]

^

[analog frigate]

you can scroll down to C1 and you'll find the Stoke's logs

[heady nest]

where

[analog frigate]

here

[quick grove]

Just scroll down

[heady nest]

Stoke deez nytz

[quick grove]

Unable to detect funny

[spare kiln]

It's just a normal troll nothing new there

[heady nest]

bit of a Wednesday afternoon fun

hold up

on the first gate why did Dr Rebecca Stokes turn into Howard Stokes

nvm it was Dr Rebecca's Husband?

[analog frigate]

howard is her husband

[heady nest]

Yeah I realized

so thats why when I grabbed the matter wave projector I went to some desert place

[analog frigate]

what?

[pure folio]

For some reason, this reminds me of the pandemic

[dim scroll]

Well

because it IS a pandemic

Protocols remain the same

[heady nest]

whats Kovac

[analog frigate]

Kovac Defence Services

a military company

one of the richest in the world

they really missed out on calling the company Kovac Defence Solutions

[heady nest]

or Kovac Military Services

feel bad for Rebbeca Stokes

[quick grove]

I mean thats what happens when your poking in place's where your not wanted

In the end it was humans who were responsible for humanitys downfall

She kinda gets what she deserves i guess

Everyone in the facility

[analog frigate]

why so?

they didn't know

they followed orders

the people giving those orders are in the wrong for not stopping

but look buddy, i'm an engineer

that means i solve problems, not problems like "what is beauty"

because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy

[quick grove]

Ah so the person that owns SMC needs to pay?

[analog frigate]

dreyfus?

pay for what?

[quick grove]

Wait

I have bamboozled myself

[analog frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-nerds-giggle-fortnite-video-games-characters-gif-17229870

[heady nest]

Poor Rebecca

[dim scroll]

Poor Jordy

[heady nest]

whos jordy

[quick grove]

someone who got killed by the drilling machine if i remember correctly @dim scroll

[analog frigate]

jordy killed himself

[dim scroll]

Dude jumped at the drillhead

[heady nest]

LOL

[dim scroll]

😔

[analog frigate]

all he wanted was to see the sun

[quick grove]

Why

Was my mans just suicidal or did he know something

[analog frigate]

suicidal

[quick grove]

At least my man didn't die of a virus or get eaten by sleepers

[quick grove]

Damn any reason why i need a log pls

[analog frigate]

https://www.notion.so/f46c0c48ecc14044b46d3093a7bf80cb?v=b161b05ae0c549489a92d244962c4167&p=5bca531484f84e838aa6a7466cf78228

[quick grove]

Thx

[dim scroll]

Way better to kill itself tbh

Since humans have to be alive to be transformed into sleepers

[quick grove]

Yeah nah man fucking smelled it

He knew something was coming

[dim scroll]

You may think the human's consciousness is still there when fully transformed

[quick grove]

And he warned hersey

[dim scroll]

Therefore we're killing plentfully conscious humanoids 😳

[quick grove]

He told her decay

It smelled like death

[quick grove]

Maybe ye

Damn man tried to get out because he could be eaten by sleepers or at least be infected

But he chose the easy route

[dim scroll]

Well

he chose the best route at this point

I'd rather kill myself than live in that fucking nightmare

Especially if i knew beforehand there would be no escapes

[pure folio]

what if you kill yourself in a nightmare just to be in another nightmare?

[quick grove]

Mans literally smelled it

[pure folio]

🤔

[quick grove]

He knew they were close to em

So we at least know allens smell like decaying dead bodys

@dim scroll its quite interesting jordy knew something was coming

[pure folio]

the dimensional theory idea was a underrated movie I watched

these 2 mad scientist discovered the portal to other dimensions that leaded these "things" that started infected those 2

[quick grove]

Eh i don't think dimensional travel could be a thing

[pure folio]

you're right

it was a movie made up to make this horror story

[quick grove]

I feel like allens teleported a piece of their planet to earth to find salvation and didn't realize till the end they still had parasites on them and the crashed because one turned and attacked everyone and they all got knocked the fuck out and woke up as allen sleepers 65million years ago fast forward to where they crack open the ruins or something

Here comes allens sleepers spewing and miners ripping everyone and everything to shreads

And after a few years 98.99 of humanity has died due to NAM-V

[analog frigate]

aight dev leak

we goin outside the planet

[dim scroll]

If the bars are supposed to be part of a letter, that's letter E fo sho

[analog frigate]

let's analyse this

we have weird white specs in the foreground

[dim scroll]

Someone mentioned a reflection as well

[analog frigate]

two orange lines of sort in the back

[dim scroll]

Considering the light it seems to be at night

[analog frigate]

and a weird dim light in the back

[dim scroll]

Moonlight probably

[analog frigate]

hmm

[dim scroll]

D1 has the same lighting

[analog frigate]

but then what could the orange lines be

[dim scroll]

I think it's black lines

rather than orange lines

orange may be the background

[analog frigate]

ooh yeah you're right

[dim scroll]

With the black lines being something written on it

That's why i thought it was an E

[analog frigate]

this is a top down view of the planet

[dim scroll]

Thing is it has the same color as lockers & boxes

[analog frigate]

the white specs seem like clouds

the orange is the surface

and then the black is odd

[dim scroll]

Could be indeed

[analog frigate]

the light could be a surface facility

i'll upscale it to see what i can see

[dim scroll]

I think this is an object we have to retrieve from red alpha

[topaz flare]

calle was doing sooo good and than THIS!?!?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[analog frigate]

hey rey

[dim scroll]

Like a box

[topaz flare]

hi Daraxus

[analog frigate]

alright upscaling it reveals almost nothing

but it does seem like looking down at the planet from orbit

if we were on the planet itself, i don't see how this sight works in perspective

[topaz flare]

hold'up

[dim scroll]

We see 2 lights on the left tho

I don't think you'd see such a thing from a satellite view

[analog frigate]

where?

[dim scroll]

These

i think it's a reflection of 2 lamps

Because of the perspective it doesn't seem like clouds

[analog frigate]

hmm

[dim scroll]

Also we can see some black bars if we look closely

[analog frigate]

so like colour on the visor itself?

[dim scroll]

There is a lack of structures as well

we saw on red alpha there were lots of hills, canyons & rocks in general

[analog frigate]

not that you'd see many structures from orbit

[dim scroll]

You'd at least see some of them because of depths

[analog frigate]

hmm

[analog frigate]

it looks like it's going down a corridor

the light at the end i mean

[dim scroll]

Except if Red alpha has been cleaned at the surface, i don't see how such a perfect surface exist lol

[analog frigate]

if you turn your head to align with the orange lines it looks like some flashlight or just light at the end of a tunnel

do you see a face?

i just got that moment where you see a certain shape

like how the clouds assemble?

[dim scroll]

No but there is a structure

Close enough lol

[analog frigate]

here is some shit looking outline

but it kinda gives an idea

[dim scroll]

There's that as well

Something circle-shaped

Rotated (180°) just in case something new appears

[analog frigate]

yeah i've been rotating it as well

[dim scroll]

Looking at it like this it does feel like an abyss

[dim scroll]

with a light at its bottom

[analog frigate]

yeah it does look like falling down

but then the white stuff doesn't make sense

although it's not in focus

so it could be something like liquid on the visors

[pulsar rampart]

Hear me out guys hear me out

A crevasse

You guys know what has a crevasse in it’s face

Sleepers

Bam

You can disguise yourself as a sleeper

[real pewter]

why is rundown 6 logs on Corrupted instead of Archive006?

[analog frigate]

how do crevasses and sleepers have something in common

[pulsar rampart]

Nothing I was kidding

[harsh saffron]

because they dont add the most recent logs to the archive until the rundown is over

[analog frigate]

@dull crest how much did you have to downscale this

[harsh saffron]

also those logs in corrupted didnt show up in the actual rundown yet

[wild plank]

Facial structure

[pulsar rampart]

On the bottom right side it kinda looks like a face, I mean you got the eyebrows and everything

[analog frigate]

yeah but then it gets into an issue of perspective

[dim scroll]

@dull crest send us a 144p leak next time please

JPEG format

[real pewter]

ok

understandable

[dim scroll]

How does it work with extended ?

They wait for R7 to get released ?

[harsh saffron]

last time they did yeah

[dim scroll]

or R6 EXT will release R6's logs ?

e

[analog frigate]

at least we know that we are going to have an ext

[dim scroll]

Well that's to be expected

[analog frigate]

but then what is this supposed to be

[dim scroll]

As to what that thing is no idea

[harsh saffron]

Graffiti on a locker (just because its the same color)

no idea tho

[dim scroll]

I thought that as well

[analog frigate]

even with upscaling it still looks about the same

[dim scroll]

the lights match

[analog frigate]

but then what is the white

[harsh saffron]

hm

[pulsar rampart]

Shaffer with a flash light

POG?!

[dim scroll]

It looks a lot like the santonian logo tbh

[analog frigate]

but how does this work in 3d space

[dim scroll]

the upper part at least

[harsh saffron]

Could also just be the promotion image for the extension tbh

[analog frigate]

true

[harsh saffron]

and they just use the same orange because it looks cool

and because you keep within your colour palette

[analog frigate]

but then why would they post an image with like 0 meaning when you know the last couple of rundowns

there was obviously going to be an extension

but then what the hell is this

[placid beacon]

someones foggy ass glasses

[dim scroll]

Could be a lot of things

a box with black outlines, a real crevasse, a picture of the said crevasse

etc

[analog frigate]

the issue is you can't see distance in it

[dim scroll]

it could even be a poster at this point

[harsh saffron]

Ngl we are probably not supposed to make out anything with the zoom being so strong anyway

[analog frigate]

everything is just out of focus

[dim scroll]

bruh i wish there was some white disk on the pic

We could've figured the moon

😔

[subtle verge]

To me, this looks like small air bubbles as someone is diving through an underwater cavern, the light in the background being a diffused lamp of some sort.

[dim scroll]

Bruh the image is named crop2

[harsh saffron]

underwater confirmed

[analog frigate]

i can see that, but what are the orange lines on the side then?

[harsh saffron]

but honestly, I like the idea punk ^^

[subtle verge]

Cavern walls, of course.

[dim scroll]

What cavern has such orange walls ?

[subtle verge]

Just.. rocky walls.

[dim scroll]

Aside from red alpha being flooded for some reason

lol

[analog frigate]

one of an orange ass planet

hmm

[subtle verge]

Certain sandstones gives off that orange hue, especially in a low-light environment.

[dim scroll]

Also we've never seen rain on red alpha

although C1 had some water

[analog frigate]

the light diffusion also makes sense

it's consistent on both "walls"

so it's a point source

[subtle verge]

I'm on my phone, let me get to my PC and I'll examine it further.

[analog frigate]

bubbles appear to be going up while looking at the picture

so we could be swimming in a cavern horizontally

[hasty pier]

i think it's just red alpha at night, with you looking up at the moon

[analog frigate]

we see the moon in d1

there it's bright af

here it's barely anything

[hasty pier]

the bubbles just look like normal mask stains to me idk

[analog frigate]

yeah

[hasty pier]

lemme check something rq

[subtle verge]

The diffused and blurry white blobs we see with the 'bubbles' are smudges on the mask.

[dim scroll]

Where do droplets come from tho

It's not from infection

[subtle verge]

Idk. I'm not calling it or anything, just giving my take as of now.

[dim scroll]

Red alpha (at least for now) never had rain

I mentioned mit tho lol

[analog frigate]

being underwater also makes sense due to how blurry it is

[subtle verge]

Wasnt referencing you, just speaking openly. ❤

[dim scroll]

Aight 😳

[analog frigate]

i've seen images that are lower res and have more detail

[dim scroll]

me & the boyz on our way to fight tanks underwater

[placid beacon]

underwater tanks

[analog frigate]

it's like someone cranked up the AA to the max

[subtle verge]

100%.

[analog frigate]

there is almost no detail

but enough resolution for there to be any

[dim scroll]

It's the "everything work" pic

[hasty pier]

disinfection packs/station

[subtle verge]

Well, what gave me the idea was: look at the edges of the orange blobs -- they're jagged like rock.

[dim scroll]

true

forgot that

Something's bothering me with the crevasse idea

[hasty pier]

are we 100% that alpha one and two are the same planet?

[dim scroll]

At the edges of the pic there are other black outlines

[analog frigate]

yeah

[dim scroll]

Yet the distance between them seems to be the same

[hasty pier]

rip

[dim scroll]

alpha on & alpha two are outposts on red alpha iirc

[dim scroll]

Anyway, is such a thing possible ?

[analog frigate]

it could be a light pointing forward

[dim scroll]

To have such consistent crevasses ?

[subtle verge]

It could also be a "dream sequence" since we hear Dauda reference having a dream where he feels suffocated and heard screams.

[dim scroll]

well fuck

if it's a dream everything can be true

lol

[subtle verge]

And hes waking up from it, hence the diffused light in the background.

[analog frigate]

being underwater is pretty suffocation inducing

[subtle verge]

But that's SUPER thinking outside the box.

[analog frigate]

hmm

[hasty pier]

i dont want to assume dream/simulation theories cause that just makes theorizing impossible lol

[analog frigate]

has dauda ever complained about feeling like being a tiny box?

or like he is cramped into a tiny space

something like how jordy felt the walls were depressing?

[subtle verge]

Right, I'm just coming at it from all angles of possibility even if it seems like lunacy lmfao.

[hasty pier]

fair fair

[placid beacon]

the matrix - extreme edition

[subtle verge]

I dont think so; I'm only referencing the official trailer(s) and his audio logs.

[analog frigate]

i see

could the white stuff be a reflection from the visor?

[subtle verge]

The blobs, yeah.

That's 100% reflection from the visor.