#gtfo-lore

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rancid zenith
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wait! look!

worthy flower
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sleepers are all mayans confirmed

tall anchor
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or is it the floor of the MWP room being imprinted

eternal talon
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it is not

worthy flower
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a Mayan calendar just flew over my house.

eternal talon
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look down

quick grove
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The Mayans theory is not possible

maiden crystal
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just a quick question, is it possibly, as alpha is the only place with daylight/light surfaces, just a placeholder pattern for where the characters spawn in (as you said it's right behind where you load in) just curious

eternal talon
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also it's not sand.

maiden crystal
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or is it aliens?

rancid zenith
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Guys.

maiden crystal
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is my dad an alien?

rancid zenith
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Half life 3 confirmed.

eternal talon
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it's sandstone, it's a different texture completely to the ground around it

tall anchor
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FRANK BISHOP CONFIRMED

rancid zenith
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It's lambda.

maiden crystal
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what the heck is that line

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i didnt notice that before

worthy flower
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its an F to pay respects

quick grove
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Can you free cam in this game @eternal talon

eternal talon
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don't think so

tall anchor
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nope

eternal talon
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i have no idea

worthy flower
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not without mods

maiden crystal
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oh my god

quick grove
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Might be a good idea to get a top down shot of it for further analysis @eternal talon

eternal talon
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it's a bit too dark

quick grove
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Yeah i know

eternal talon
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if you want to run through b1, you can try

maiden crystal
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whether it's another planet or dimension or whatever, the impact was from space, so whatever the word is, it's aliens, in the same way that in event horizon, the hell portal is in space so even though that is demons, it's alien demons lol

eternal talon
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if you bring like a heavy flashlight or something

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into red alpha

quick grove
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Still might be worth it

maiden crystal
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aren't the alpha sections timed?

eternal talon
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not b1

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or d1

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d1 is only after you start the alarm

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b1 only after you use the terminal

maiden crystal
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guys

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be honest

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do you think my dad is up there?

maiden crystal
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the impact of chibux crater or whatever it is called

eternal talon
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mountain sized sandstorms go brr

maiden crystal
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did anyone else google impact areas on earth after reading into legit chibux crator and get a little wigged out by how many confirmed giant impact zones/craters are on earth currently

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because i didn't I'm big and strong like my dad

tall anchor
eternal talon
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do you see stars in d1?

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now that i think about it

tall anchor
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I think so

eternal talon
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i was just saying that as a joke to cannibal

maiden crystal
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This is deep lore please do not joke lives and Merv's patience are on the line.

eternal talon
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merv's nigh asleep, it's 9am for him

maiden crystal
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oh ok let's keep trying to find my dad then

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the F is for Frank which could be my dad's name maybe

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he used to write Fs in chat just like that

tall anchor
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Your dad is Frank Bishop?

maiden crystal
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I don't know the writers have not finished my deep lore yet

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I hope Bishop gets his vengeance, speaking from the heart now

eternal talon
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anyone wanna run b1 with me to get a better pic of that sandstone?

quick grove
maiden crystal
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I feel like he's the only one, well him and the other guy down there that broke free, who didn't deserve to get entered into legion

quick grove
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Bishop never broke free lol

maiden crystal
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no Schafer did

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or at least, whatever is calling itself Shafer claims he has

tall anchor
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Schaeffer is his name for sure

quick grove
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You mean schaeffer

tall anchor
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Like we know he was a human before NAM-V got out

maiden crystal
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yeah he had some role in the deeper mining areas, he apparently had lvl 4 access out of 5

tall anchor
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he and his team ran the mining machine

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until he lost it and jumped into the drill

quick grove
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Who's the guy that apperantly never existed?@tall anchor

maiden crystal
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the theory is he was informed of things he wasn't meant to be through "illegal communication" or whatever they called it in the email log, so they slung him in legion

tall anchor
eternal talon
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sigh, loading into b1 again 109775240986821192 if you want to join to take pics

dim scroll
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pic of what 😳

maiden crystal
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Yes, because apparently he installed spyware on corp. machines and tried to blackmail the big cheese of the company

eternal talon
quick grove
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My man frosty doing the madness out here

maiden crystal
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Frossty

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you have my axe but give me 5 mins

quick grove
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What do you call people studing rocks

eternal talon
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like the 3rd time i've solod it for pics for the lore channel

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it's not that bad.

maiden crystal
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May i please come

eternal talon
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sure whatevs

maiden crystal
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chat channel?

eternal talon
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vc 48

maiden crystal
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cheers

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anyone else coming? for the deep lore? for my dad?

subtle verge
quick grove
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I didn't even read that

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If that was schaeffer man wouldn't be talking to us or the mimic thing

subtle verge
quick grove
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Mania?

subtle verge
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Manic episode.

quick grove
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Oh

tall anchor
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Oh yeah my bad

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I got the two mixed up

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Also @subtle verge What’s your thoughts on this?

subtle verge
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Ouch. It's just a coined name that everyone understands, there's literally no harm in calling it that for now since we don't have an official name yet. You're more than welcome to give it a new name like the aforemention Super Gears of Halo Theft Auto 5. No need to be rude, my guy.

subtle verge
tall anchor
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Oh yeah, I'm sure there's stuff to challenge, it was just a first draft

maiden crystal
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I carried losty through the level, we found several new pieces of deep lore on my dad

eternal talon
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hahaha sure

quick grove
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Mmm

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Outlining time

subtle verge
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Hmm...

eternal talon
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i have other, rotated pics too

subtle verge
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It does have a very basic appearance of a Mayan carving; also kind of reminds me of a Fallout vault door.

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Keeping an open mind: that's pretty big for the future, if it's not a red herring.

quick grove
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I mean its not something Random the devs clearly put it there

dim scroll
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Ah yes, the sussy tile

quick grove
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?

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Saint your back

eternal talon
quick grove
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Huh

harsh saffron
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This is probably something completely different but the first association I had was the effect from the terminator just "removing" everything around him when he arrived in the first terminator movie. Except here its not shaped like a sphere around us but rather like a cylinder.

quick grove
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Why

harsh saffron
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not ur picture ^^

quick grove
quick grove
harsh saffron
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what

eternal talon
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he's talking about the sandstone

quick grove
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Oh

harsh saffron
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I thought that would be obvious because you talked about it for the last few hours ^^

eternal talon
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i dunno, it's behind where you teleport in, not on it. when i got teleported in b1, i turned around without moving

eternal talon
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and we don't see one in d1

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or a1

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or c1

harsh saffron
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indeed

eternal talon
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are you saying it might be tied to the teleporter?

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i dunno, the shapes just don't really line up

quick grove
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It couldn't be

eternal talon
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and you'd think it'd be cut in the sand, not out of rock.

harsh saffron
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I wish it had a similar effect in d1, then you could just say that its probably linked to being transported by and actual gate instead of these temporary jumps with unsecured artifacts

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but no 😦

eternal talon
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it's just there, it's own thing in b1

quick grove
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It means something

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It isn't random lol

harsh saffron
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yeah thats too special to be just a random circle

eternal talon
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well no, nothing is random per se, everything has to be modeled and placed.

quick grove
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I've also just realized why are there plants behind glass encaged

eternal talon
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it said in the b1 voice log in the terminal the plants dried out insanely fast

dim scroll
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😔

quick grove
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Ah

harsh saffron
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relatable

eternal talon
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but i mean it also said the soil isn't suitable for plant life,

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yet the bramble exists.

quick grove
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So they managed to bring back planets or nah

harsh saffron
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the plants in the lab are from "excavation deep", so from within the complex

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and I don't think bishop started to collect plants

quick grove
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Ah oky

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Fair enough

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Plants deep under

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Ground

harsh saffron
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must be some great plants

quick grove
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Yeah

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Who knows

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I wish they was the good stuff tho

solar nova
quick grove
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Nah it's not

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Everyone has a coined named for anything

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I call the creature schaeffer talked to the mimic even tho that might not be even its name

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@solar nova

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Everything and anything in this game that doesn't have a name will most likely be coined by the community

raven moss
quick grove
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Erm because bishop is one of the characters you play as and that is knowned

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@raven moss

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The creature that schaeffer talks to is not

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Its common sense to name something that doesn't have one

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@raven moss @solar nova why does both of you sound like people who complain on twitter

eternal talon
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good news!

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i found a heavy flashlight

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honestly was dissapointed with the results. worse than the other pictures i managed

eternal talon
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so no, you don't spawn on it. it's right behind you.

quick grove
cobalt mulch
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looks a bit like the 10cc logo 10CC

quick grove
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Nah

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@tall anchor you erm gonna keep updating that with logs because im only interested in logs

tall anchor
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maybe? idk im lazy

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you do it

quick grove
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No

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I don't have all logs

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Im only interested in the main character logs and schaeffer logs

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@tall anchor is there a way i can find those

subtle verge
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For all your logs needs.

quick grove
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Thank you thank you

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No

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Im not doing that

tall anchor
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aww bugger I was trying to pawn off the work

quick grove
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Oh wait nvm

tall anchor
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lets see if rav will do it

quick grove
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Ah schaeffer sounds so happy when he said "FUCK THEM" "FUCK THE WARDEN" like he finally has a sense of freedom but not really freedom he can atleast think for himself

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He also shows sadness towards his dead teammates that he was with

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It sounds like the broke the program but the warden got someone or at least something to kill them but schaeffer escaped

worthy flower
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sounds like to me like schaeffer went for the longest kite after his party went down

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reminder that in the complex, the warden probably isnt your biggest threat.

quick grove
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Yep

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When schaeffer talks to us in A1 and D1 is is that all recordings left behind or nah

worthy flower
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some of them were fresh, but by definition, all recordings are left behind

quick grove
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Ah

worthy flower
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if you're asking is that all of them in r6

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ill check

quick grove
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I wonder where he "HAD" to go at the end of D1 he just said "no no no, i have to go"

worthy flower
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deeper, probably.

quick grove
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Why

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Is it because the warden got access to go deeper

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@worthy flower

worthy flower
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id wager a probably.

quick grove
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True

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Because the more reactors that are the deeper the warden can reach

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We turned on the elevator for KDS deep so at some point in the future we might even be able to go deeper

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Idk my self i know the warden wants power

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Hence R6D3 power hungry

worthy flower
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id probably say the combination of uplinks and reactors lets the warden reach deeper

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taking credentials, information, commands from terminals

vagrant fiber
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So would the complex at this point be a mass grave given the number of causalities.

broken whale
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does anyone know what is being said when you click on a mission? it sounds like a message but its distorted.

wispy torrent
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Who the 4 dudes again

quick grove
wispy torrent
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So im woods

quick grove
wispy torrent
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how

quick grove
quick grove
# wispy torrent how

Well if you host your bishop if i remember correctly if join second your dauda if you join 3rd your woods and fourth is ummm hackett

wispy torrent
stray bear
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just did R6C2

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what the hell did schaeffer see

lilac island
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closest thing we've been able to identify the thing is another variant of Sleeper that's adapting to not be attacked by the other variants along with luring humans to it

lilac island
quick grove
lilac island
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It's theorised to of come from the burning bodies

quick grove
quick grove
lilac island
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Talks about fire yes

quick grove
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Yes and a mountain of bodys

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On fire

lilac island
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could be unrelated

quick grove
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Nah

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It wouldn't have an ashy skin then

lilac island
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It isn't ashy skin, the skin is see through

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it's covered in ash

quick grove
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Yes paper tin skin with ash

lilac island
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covered in ash

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Nothing is confirmed until we have a closer look

quick grove
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Yes so what do you get from burning a fuck ton of bodies

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Ash

lilac island
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True, but i also found ash on Red Alpha

quick grove
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Ash on red alpha?

lilac island
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yep

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C1, the data cubes when you survive on mountainous terrain

quick grove
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With the amount off dust storms i don't think ash will be any where

lilac island
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ash comes down along with rain

quick grove
lilac island
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sand doesn't fall slowly

quick grove
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Last time i checked nothing fell slowly from the sky when you survive

lilac island
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It's during the survival

quick grove
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And there is no rain during that time

lilac island
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We've found evidence to suggest otherwise

quick grove
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Unless you got screenshots show me

lilac island
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This video here portrays rain

quick grove
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I don't want a video

lilac island
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timestamped along with particles falling down which i believe to be ash

quick grove
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That is the same stuff from B1

lilac island
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But one thing is certain

quick grove
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Thats floating in caves

lilac island
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Sand Doesn't Fall Slowly

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and that to me looks like ash of some sort or some sort of substance

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all we have is circumstantial

quick grove
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And if you paid attention to B1 theres the same slow falling stuff

lilac island
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neither you or me are right, only the devs will truly know

quick grove
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I know because I've been on C1 3 times and B1 5 times

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I cross check both

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Same stuff

lilac island
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Ok?

quick grove
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And there's no indecation of fire on Red Alpha

lilac island
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There is also the chance that it is unrelated

quick grove
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This mimic creature comes from the ruinsof the burning bodys and ash

quick grove
lilac island
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Explain to me why it's unlikely

quick grove
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Because how can that thing come over from that world to ours

lilac island
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How can the floaters?

quick grove
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Everything is so extremely hostile on that planet

lilac island
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i am not saying personally that i think the mimic came from red alpha, just an observation

quick grove
lilac island
quick grove
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They can't travel long distances

lilac island
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look at the D missions

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i think i was referenced D3

quick grove
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The floaters used the quantum tether to come through

lilac island
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look up during a fight

quick grove
lilac island
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yet they come from a white light

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and there's no machine that's using a MWP around

quick grove
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Because the teleport short distance

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Just not long

lilac island
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short distance is one part of a room to another

quick grove
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Yep

lilac island
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its different to send something literal hundreds of feet from one side to the other

quick grove
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And if i recall correctly they come from under the bridge which is fuck knows how high

lilac island
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there you go

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so explain how they could teleport fuck knows how high to the literal bottom of the rundown

quick grove
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Floaters teleport but last time i recall sleepers don't

lilac island
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they're both infested with the same parasite

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that we know

quick grove
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No they are not

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Floaters aren't infested with the parasites

lilac island
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alright mate

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you do you and i'll do me

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besides, the fun of this is our own interpretation

quick grove
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Eh true

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But the mimic thing looks human and sleepers dont the only thing sleepers got that looks Human is there deformed bodys

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But we might even see non human sleepers if we go deeper because of Allens at the center

lilac island
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that's why i believe floaters ARE infested aliens or my little idea which has no evidence but seems plausible is that it's biomass created by the parasite to be used as scouts/hunter gatherers but as i've said there's no evidence to support that

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but again, could be anything until it's confirmed by the creators

quick grove
analog frigate
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<@&408548765599793173>

strange inlet
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Thanks for the heads up, handled that spam DanceDog

quick grove
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I honestly think mods are the madness tbh always lurking coming to the rescue when needed

wispy torrent
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Woods is arabic

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I heard him talk in arabic

quick grove
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Woods isn't arabic

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Never heard him speak arabic

analog frigate
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he never has

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he is american

quick grove
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Yes

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Was about to say after a quick google search

wispy torrent
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Lol!!

quick grove
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Whats so funny?

wispy torrent
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Nothing

quick grove
wispy torrent
flat tiger
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it's possible he could've learned a couple words while on his tour of duty, that sort of thing happens a lot with wars out there, but yeah i don't think he actually says anything

wispy torrent
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Warden is a robot

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Idk

subtle verge
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WRDN is a DI.

analog frigate
wispy torrent
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What if

flat tiger
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yeah

quick grove
flat tiger
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yes

quick grove
wispy torrent
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Idk

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Im so confused

quick grove
wispy torrent
quick grove
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Sit down and explain why you confuse

wispy torrent
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Idk

quick grove
flat tiger
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i remember being the one to bring up what DI stands for for the first time by posting the wikipedia article on it since people weren't sure

wispy torrent
quick grove
flat tiger
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i haven't been as active recently

quick grove
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Explains why then

analog frigate
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his main acc got hacked

flat tiger
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it's been a pretty good while since i pointed out the DI thing and formed the idea for how hydrostasis worked

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yeah, main account got nabbed and nuked

analog frigate
quick grove
flat tiger
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he was in a damn discord call with me when he did it and since nothing happened to him and he was talking so confidently about it i figured he already clicked on it

quick grove
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Yeah shit happens to quick dude

flat tiger
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but no, he was so stupid and lazy that he managed to pass on the thing without actually clicking it himself

quick grove
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?

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What you mean

flat tiger
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he never got hacked, he never clicked the link, but talked as if he did, so he passed the link on, and the link was malicious

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and so he didn't get hacked, but i did

quick grove
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Damn

subtle verge
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Now that I go back to listening to prisoner voice logs: Woods is Bible-Belt American as Bible-Belt American can get. Going over his voice logs, he sounds like a Annihilationist zealot; with a Tennessee/Georgia kind of accent.

I know this means nothing, but it's triggered some memories from my childhood where I used to hear this kind of zealotry before. Carry on.

quick grove
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Don't speak

flat tiger
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definitely more georgia than tennessee

quick grove
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I literally live in a house where my dad says end times are near

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It drives me nuts

subtle verge
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Depends; you get more towards the Nashville, TN area you hear his kind of accent all the time; more urban-southern. But I'll be honest: have never been to Georgia for more than a few hours, so I don't remember much of the dialects.

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Now, you get towards the mountains, people start speaking in Cornbread.

analog frigate
quick grove
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I've never been in America so i wouldn't know

analog frigate
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i don't exactly know how to describe his accent, but it's like a family living in the middle of the forest, somewhere northern

analog frigate
quick grove
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I find him as an extremist

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In his religion

analog frigate
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he isn't exactly properly theist

quick grove
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True but i wouldn't know

analog frigate
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some weird variant of theism, probably a different perspective of protenstantism or catholisism

quick grove
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Oh i see to much names that give me trauma

subtle verge
analog frigate
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i see

quick grove
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Yeah i realised he uses brothers as in erm a way to show he sees daude hackett and bishop kinda as family i don't know

subtle verge
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And if you live in a state that borders Canada, say Wisconsin, instead of 'wizz-con-son' you would hear 'wizz-can-san' from the locals.

flat tiger
quick grove
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Could be true

flat tiger
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might be particular to minneapolis

subtle verge
quick grove
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I hear Mina-soda

wispy torrent
subtle verge
quick grove
subtle verge
quick grove
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His own release

analog frigate
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well he has more of a "sent by god" belief demeanor

quick grove
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Ah

analog frigate
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seeing how most of his combat situations have gone

quick grove
analog frigate
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and it's understandable why

flat tiger
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i grew up in la grange, kentucky, about 20 miles E×NE of louisville, the accents are pretty strong in rural areas, but with the exception of particular areas of the states, actual accenting is a bit rare, i think woods likely grew up in a rural area but lost his accent from his time in the military

analog frigate
quick grove
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Man must've thought it was a miracle

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My guy they just have bad aim

flat tiger
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i lost my accent after moving to quebec city in canada, then had a quebec french accent for two weeks (which basically puts a "question mark" inflection on the end of every sentence and then spaces out sentences a bit more)

subtle verge
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Happened to me; lost my Tennessee accent when I moved to Indiana, adopted a more urban accent instead of a southern drawl.

quick grove
flat tiger
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yeah, after moving to the east coast, i picked up a liiittle bit of a generic canadian accent on some words, and have recently been having my southern accent come back due to the words just coming out easier while i'm sick

quick grove
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@subtle verge @flat tiger @analog frigate alright its my time to sign off I've got work today so ye cheers

quick grove
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Night

flat tiger
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see ya man, good luck with work

quick grove
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Thanks man

wispy torrent
eternal talon
maiden crystal
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Lossty is there a writer dev on the discord that has ever come in to verify thoughts on lore like your rock circle

eternal talon
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no idea

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ask daraxus

maiden crystal
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I am still convinced it's being overthought and it's just intended as a visual placeholder for where "the teleport" brings you in, like a landing pad

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even though you spawn in front of it

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also i cleared d3pe overnight 😄

eternal talon
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ah, good on you. was it the hell i said it'd be?

maiden crystal
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yes

eternal talon
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how many attempts?

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/wipes

maiden crystal
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I was very fortunate there's a badass speed runner that specializes specifically in d3

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technically 4 i believe over 2 runs

eternal talon
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not too bad then.

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was it Skywalk?

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he usually runs levels for newbies.

maiden crystal
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I still feel c2 was more of a hurdle

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No it was Khan

eternal talon
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sky has been running a lot of c3 the past couple days.

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but back onto the topic of lore

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if anybody would know devs in here, it'd probably be daraxus

tall anchor
subtle verge
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An accurate representation of how he comes along:

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Gifs like that.

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There was, once upon a time however, a moment he stated to not look too deep into D4s data cube jumping as it was "a bad rabbit hole", however he has since deleted that comment which I think might have crossed the line of the NDA, though it is possible that it may have something to do with canon lore.

frail pollen
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I deleted it (and we don't confirm or deny lore theories) because the lore is for you guys to figure out. it wouldn't be fun if we gave the answers to things

and because I didn't want to keep getting pinged when it kept getting quoted. PingHammer

vestal delta
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but if you want to know all the secrets of gtfo make sure you play

analog frigate
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and read all the logs

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also best to be up to date on most current theories

subtle verge
maiden crystal
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lol thanks punk and thank you Doc thank you for dropping in to confirm

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he's saying that bc he knows my papap is down there

subtle verge
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Hey, @shut mountain , quick question for you whenever you're not busy! Hackett_Heart

shut mountain
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Shoot away

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@subtle verge

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You can always shoot a question away, just might take a day or two for me to reply

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if im on dnd but always

subtle verge
shut mountain
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Yeah its fine

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If its heavily moderation related preferably mod contact, but if its something specifically for me or admin you can always shoot it to me or Moon

subtle verge
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Awesome! I just wanted to ask before I just threw a dart without a heads up.

tall anchor
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smh my head rav is always busy wdym

subtle verge
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I have social anxiety leave me alone

tall anchor
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lmao

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Going back on topic - What the hell is the rundown 5.0 logs page on the wiki

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and how can I best assemble these into the page I made yesterday

subtle verge
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Best to ask those who frequent the #wiki-chat because I'm clueless on how Wiki works.

tall anchor
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It's more about the contents of the log rather than the actual wikitext

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(b/c I know how the wiki works, I'm just struggling to understand r5's logs

subtle verge
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OH. What context are you looking for?

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Like.. how are you listing them?

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By date or by alphabet or

tall anchor
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(open the page)

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Oh, that's weird

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I guess I was looking at the wrong page yesterday

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ignore me

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For reference: the way the wiki has all the logs listed on the dedicated logs page is different to the way it is on the main R5 page, and I was too tired yesterday and looked at the wrong page.

subtle verge
tall anchor
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Is that just a legion recruiter?

subtle verge
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The "Hello, Woods" guy?

tall anchor
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Aye

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The british guy

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Should I just call this 'Woods Religion Interview' ?

subtle verge
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Not entirely sure who it could be, really.

analog frigate
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the recruiter?

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we haven't identified him

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no possible tag attached as well

tall anchor
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ah

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How should I 'title' the interview

analog frigate
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in the transcript i've listed him as "Recruiter"

analog frigate
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it wasn't about religion

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woods spiraled off into that

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due to what happened in venezuela and turkey

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but the recruiter tried to keep it more proper interview talk

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iirc someone had an idea that he was bishop but the voices don't match up

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also intonation and word usage is different

subtle verge
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It's possible we might be able to ID who it is if we learn which Genesis Operatives were part of the Sigma generation.

harsh saffron
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I think lilliana means the second audio log for woods @analog frigate

tall anchor
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So how should I 'title' the audio log then?

analog frigate
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haven't done the transcript for that one yet

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sorry

tall anchor
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I'm not doing transcriptions, I'm working on the timeline page I made yesterday

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I want to title it something that readers will be able to search through and find it easily

analog frigate
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i've been doing them (at least when i have the time)

subtle verge
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'Woods Interview - 0X' (X being the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) or something along those lines for that specific log, I think.

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So like 'Woods Interview - 01' or something.

analog frigate
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it should be 2

tall anchor
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I've been aiming to call them something relevant

subtle verge
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Hmm... It's really hard to call it something specific when we know very little of it's context/origin.

tall anchor
subtle verge
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Could name it something from the interview; like a memorable line?

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"Have you reset me before?"

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Something along those lines; whichever you feel is more empowering.

tall anchor
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I'd just like it to reflect the contents of the log for people to be able to find and connect

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I could do "Woods #1 - "God told you to kill those men?"

subtle verge
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I like that.

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Just edgy enough to be realistic, but not so edgy that it looks like a Black Veil Brides poster on a teenagers wall.

tall anchor
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LMAO

subtle verge
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Think I might hit up a voice channel and figure out if there are any hints to who could be sigma/tau generation of KSOs.

quick grove
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Sigma

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Ive seen that name before in game

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On a log or something can't quite remember

subtle verge
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Yeah, two of the R5 logs talks about Sigma/Tau generation of Genesis Operatives (GOs).

solar nova
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I believe there's one mentioning "symbols" an operative was responsible for. Sounds like Woods.

quick grove
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Tho i don't remember what the log about but i remember sigma and tau

solar nova
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Sigma gen.

quick grove
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Yes

solar nova
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D-Lock Block Cipher

Sender:   Ellis Carnegie 
Receiver: Angela Klein A106 
Date:     June 8th 2052
Subject:  Behavioral anomalies among Sigma gen

Ms. Klein,

I recommend only using Tau gen until we have fully investigated the
issue with Sigma gen. The Pretoria lab is running some tests on our
GOs and our remaining Sigmas to isolate the behaviors you mentioned.
A few questions:

1. Can you send photos of the self-harm you indicated with 0-2056?
   We need to confirm if the scarring is indiscriminate or
   definitely religious. Our records show this operative has
   exhibited similar behavior before, despite multiple resets.
2. The head banging behavior is known in toddlers, but we did not
   see that behavior in any of the Genesis Operatives. Does it start
   immediately after resuscitation, or after some period of time? I
   would like video evidence for the records and a more detailed 
   report please.
3. Can you send me a list of the operatives you marked as faulty and
   sent to recycling? We track both organ and tissue stocks here so
   we can trace the history should we need it.

Ellis Carnegie

Kovac Research, Pretoria
quick grove
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Ah yes there we go

subtle verge
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That does sound a lot like Woods now that I put it into perspective.

quick grove
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Ye number 1 is definitely talking about woods

solar nova
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Knowing that Woods is a Sigma is a bombshell for chad theory.

subtle verge
quick grove
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Why do they need gens?

analog frigate
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because they are generations

solar nova
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Controlling for variables.

analog frigate
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there is a multitude of them

quick grove
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Ah

analog frigate
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multiple batches

solar nova
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Designating them as generations helps them perform research for the Legion project more consistently, as they'll have multiple samples per generation that have been developed using similar if not identical methodology.

quick grove
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Ah okay

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So whats dauda bishop and hackett then

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They sigma to or nah

analog frigate
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we don't really know their generation i believe

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at least the audio logs show nothing iirc

quick grove
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Damn

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They the Chad generation

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Woods just evolved from sigma to Chad

burnt light
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The only confirmed is Bishop being part of the Genesis generation. "Evaluation of Genesis 1395", R5A3 audio. GO, Genesis Operative, I guess.
But nothing about the others.

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Not sure if that's the actual quote, I haven't been able to find transcriptions of any of those audios anywhere

subtle verge
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That's something I'm reading on. But yeah, you're definitely right that Bishop is Genesis. I'm going backwards and reading on when each of the main prisoners became part of Legion/KDS. For example, Woods has been around since 2028.

lilac island
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Do we find anything about the prisonners and the guardian ?

analog frigate
lilac island
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Yes sorry

analog frigate
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don't worry about it

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yes we do

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the prisoners (dauda, hackett, bishop and woods) are what we call KSOs (Kovac Special/Security Operatives)

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they were originally managed by the BIOCOM

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a military DI made by KDS (Kovac Defence Services)

lilac island
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So we're not playing random guys. It's the same 4 guys being sent over and over

analog frigate
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which then got basically hacked into and it's protocol changed to WRDN (The Warden)

analog frigate
#

but we aren't the only ones

eternal talon
placid beacon
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you get the special benefits of living!

analog frigate
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we do only play as the four, but there are over 2 thousand more

lilac island
#

Do the warden have an army kinda. Every end of mission it says we are mentally "unstable" are we getting drugged for those missions ? Do we have mental illness ?

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How is death in the lore

analog frigate
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we are very mentally unstable

eternal talon
cobalt mulch
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the levels are riddled with bodies of previous attempts

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some even stacked nicely (d3 main bh)

analog frigate
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as Punkthulhu theorises, they are brainwashed as to become the perfect soldiers, a private army for KDS

eternal talon
analog frigate
analog frigate
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we always do the mission and get out alive

lilac island
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Okay i see. They HAVE to finish everytime

eternal talon
lilac island
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I guess they have ptsd and that's why they are so stressed when you meet sleepers or do your weapons (hitting their heads, walking around)

eternal talon
#

the 4 canonically have never died. we are the A team, though it's implied that the warden has other primary teams for the more dangerous missions (ie: retrieving the matter wave we left in b1)

analog frigate
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some were "insane" before the whole thing

eternal talon
analog frigate
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and his mother

eternal talon
#

what are the other backstories, daraxus?

lilac island
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We get their background during missions on terminal ?

eternal talon
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that's the only i can remember

eternal talon
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i know one was corporate espionage and blackmail

lilac island
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I only went to B1 max so for now i'm a bit in the fog about everything as far as i know it's some kind of sickness from a laboratory ? Failed experiments that we see in B1 for example no ?

eternal talon
analog frigate
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so dauda was a researcher working for KDS, bishop got into the legion program because he tried to blackmail davies, and woods was an amazing soldier most of the time

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that's the basic overview

eternal talon
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ah, BISHOP was the blackmail one

analog frigate
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we have the main thing: NAM-V

eternal talon
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i couldn't remember if it was him or woods

analog frigate
#

actually

eternal talon
lilac island
#

What

analog frigate
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it's a small summary and FAQ about gtfo

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currently me and punk are working on an updated version to replace this one

eternal talon
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been putting alot of research and study into this channel

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haven't been this invested in gtfo lore since r2

analog frigate
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well the lore does go pretty deep

eternal talon
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oh, daraxus, did you see my post about that sandstone carving?

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i got a pic with the heavy flashlight

eternal talon
lilac island
analog frigate
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yup

eternal talon
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nam-v got out of garganta and killed most of humanity

lilac island
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Damn i'm disappointed in Humanity

analog frigate
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99.995%

lilac island
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Superior species my ass

analog frigate
eternal talon
#

luckily though, only the virus and not the parasite, so at least there aren't sleepers for the survivors to deal with.

lilac island
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Virus kill, parasite turn you into a sleeper ?

analog frigate
#

we still don't know for sure that NAM-V causes or doesn't cause sleepers

eternal talon
analog frigate
eternal talon
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we know it's a symbiotic relationship

analog frigate
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mostly

eternal talon
analog frigate
#

well it's not like i don't have one at hand

lilac island
#

"Symbiotic" still turn you into a monster that try to kill other living things

eternal talon
#

not the parasite and humans.

lilac island
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Ooooh

eternal talon
#

the virus makes hosts, the parasite controlls them, and keeps them alive to keep the virus alive and spreading so it doesn't burn itself out of fuel.

analog frigate
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that's still a theory though ^

lilac island
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But don't you get blood on yourself or wounds by the sleepers

analog frigate
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remember to take everything with a grain of salt

lilac island
#

You should get infected aswell

analog frigate
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not exactly

eternal talon
#

point being; together, the virus can be far more lethal and fast acting without worrying about killing its own infected supply.

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and the virus gets to claim weakened hosts easier and with less resistance.

analog frigate
#

when we get back in our HSUs, the virus is stopped from spreading, or gets reversed.

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as dauda said: "we're all infected"

analog frigate
#

i

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cmon

eternal talon
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hehehe

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i know

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just funny.

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a grain of salad.

lilac island
#

What is the ambassador role btw ?

eternal talon
analog frigate
analog frigate
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punk can answer

eternal talon
analog frigate
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oh, disinfectant packs work differently

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they remove the toxic fog infection

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which is different

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here is another document explaining what it is

subtle verge
# lilac island How do they achieve that ?

The HSUs, Hydro-Stasis Units, put things in to a stasis, to the point of cell death, using a synthetic amniotic fluid. This stasis stops the virus, and presumably parasites if we have them on us, from working. We aren't for sure exactly if we remain infected after we're revived from stasis, however.

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It's still an on-going mystery to us.

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Definitely worth checking out the FAQ in the pins. We also have a dedicated Wiki with every audio and text log to date, as well as a timeline which you can find in the pins, as well!

lilac island
#

Wait so each time you leave a mission you go to "sleep" and get waken up for another mission ?

subtle verge
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It's a lot of reading, but it helps you get a baseline idea of what we have to work with and where we're at.

lilac island
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LMAO i understand why they are mentally unstable now

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Never ending fight for your life

subtle verge
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Oh man, that's a huge rabbit hole that I'm working on.

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I'm theorizing and uncovering as much as I humanly can on Project Legion and how it affects the human mind and body.

lilac island
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Can't believe none of them tried to shoot themself yet. As you said there must be some kind of brainwashing

analog frigate
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they can't

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they are physically unable to

subtle verge
#

I'm currently working on a theory for it, and it all points to Project Legion.

analog frigate
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yup

subtle verge
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TL;DR of what I have so far: Project Legion is a way to make the ultimate soldier who follows every order without question or emotion. They're given a directive, they do it.

lilac island
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Why not use robots instead

subtle verge
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And we can see that in a recorded log we have available to us, where a KSO (Kovac Security Operative) is directed to stand in a closet for 6 minutes.

subtle verge
# lilac island Why not use robots instead

Cost, time, maintenance, upkeep, things like that I'd imagine. It's known that Kovac Defense Services (KDS) uses prisoners and war criminals, as the individual keeps their instinct to kill and training with firearms, however the HSUs wipe memories over long periods of exposure.

quick grove
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What did i miss

analog frigate
lilac island
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Erasing combat experiences. Sound bad to me

subtle verge
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There are robots in Garganta, however, though I am more on the boat that they were used to move heavy equipment and boxes around.

analog frigate
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they still keep it to some extent

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and they receive further training afterwards

subtle verge
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Yeah, it's not a 100% wipe, it's more long-term memory loss.

lilac island
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I see

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Gtfo lore is definitly interesting

analog frigate
#

very

subtle verge
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It's incredibly deep.

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Like how we believe that NAM-V has wiped out 99.98% of the human population on earth.

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But that's not proven, just lots of theory and calculations.

lilac island
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Could be fake to make the prisoners "hateful" and need to get a revenge

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But that's a lot of overthinking from me

analog frigate
#

they can't really do that

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as far as we know, they can't really think for themselves

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although schaeffer kinda has

subtle verge
#

We know of one individual who has somewhat broken the hold that WRDN has over us, and that's Schaeffer, who we hear talking to us often.

eternal talon
#

well schaeffer broke away from the warden, didn't he?

analog frigate
#

seems so

lilac island
analog frigate
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as punk said, brainwashed

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they can think yes, but not to a high extent

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it's mostly military tactics

subtle verge
#

The main prisoners aren't mindless drones, they still for the most part have bodily autonomy.

quick grove
#

I think the warden is smart enough not to erase any combat experience and stuff

subtle verge
#

However they're programmed to get the BIOCOM's/WRDN's task done.

analog frigate
eternal talon
#

biocom is gone, isn't it? when the world ended?

analog frigate
#

not really

subtle verge
#

No, BIOCOM still exists, Warden just took the system over.

eternal talon
#

that's what i mean

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it's just warden now issuing orders.

analog frigate
#

the Warden is the BIOCOM, just under a different protocol

lilac island
#

Why doesn't the warden send more people at the same time ?

analog frigate
#

it probably does

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there are expeditions with the goal to help missions in nearby sectors

subtle verge
eternal talon
#

the lift can only fit 4 pods though, right?

lilac island
#

Imagine maps where you could meet other teams

subtle verge
#

There were some in R5, as well.

eternal talon
#

at a time

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i mean

eternal talon
#

it'd have to go all the way back up and all the way down

subtle verge
elder citrus
#

The team is a distraction, but that there are other prisoners?

eternal talon
#

hud display literally states their progress

analog frigate
eternal talon
elder citrus
#

Yeah, two tanks and hundreds of sleepers.

subtle verge
eternal talon
#

teams of 4 are probably just standard because that's what most of the equipment is made for

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security scans, esc.

elder citrus
#

The machine they are dropped in is made for it too.

dreamy nymph
#

The main thing I'm curious on for that mission is if one of the other missions in the rundown is supposed to be the mission that the other is distracting for.

lilac island
#

Dude

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That would be great

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But according what they say it doesn't work

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Since we always play the same 4 guys

subtle verge
dreamy nymph
#

Didn't realize that lore wise that's how it was set-up.

analog frigate
#

R6C3 is an expedition to clear out an area for a mission that other prisoners are going to do

subtle verge
#

We aren't the only prisoners being sent on missions, no. There are probably tens of other teams going on an expedition at the time we're being sent on missions.

cobalt mulch
#

to me there has always been the ambient soundscape where randomly it sound like a dying giant with or without gunshots.. just assumed that they wanted me to think theres operations hapoening elsewhere atst..

analog frigate
#

it could be others, yeah

quick grove
#

Jesus im gone for 5 mins and so much to read

analog frigate
#

that's the lore chat for you

subtle verge
#

We're slow for a day or two, then it's nonstop for a week, then back to being slow for two days, repeat.

quick grove
analog frigate
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or in the ye old days, it was active always, trying to scrape all the lore left in r5

royal finch
#

doesnt check the lore channel for 2 days
100+ messages

analog frigate
#

duck has had it quite the same

royal finch
analog frigate
#

with 600 messages

royal finch
#

damn boy

quick grove
#

Jesus

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Madness

analog frigate
#

not really

royal finch
#

new method of torture: make people read 600 messages worth of gtfo lore

analog frigate
#

eh it's been kind of repeating

lilac island
cobalt mulch
#

would be cool to sometimes see some npc crew doing something in the distance or have a mission to actively assist or be assisted by a team (not too close tho) .. a figure standing on an unreachable ledge an saluting us as he runs off or sth

subtle verge
lilac island
#

Behind closed doors, guys hitting it with their hands screaming for help that kinf of stuff

cobalt mulch
#

nailed it, yes

subtle verge
cobalt mulch
#

we hope :)

subtle verge
#

If you haven't heard those audio logs yet, I highly recommend it.

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Fucking. Creepy.

dreamy nymph
royal finch
#

Ngl, seeing another human being in the complex after so long will be hella strange

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i love it

quick grove
subtle verge
lilac island
analog frigate
subtle verge
#

The protocols are just there to activate reactors, gather information, etc.

quick grove
#

Oh wait what is a warden protocol i thought thats the 30min survive thing

analog frigate
#

oh

quick grove
analog frigate
#

yes that's the name for the type of mission

subtle verge
analog frigate
#

it is in fact called "warden protocol"

quick grove
#

Ah okay

analog frigate
#

but it refers to the specific protocol the warden gave

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rather being the actual warden protocols

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they are a bit conflicting in terms of names but it still makes sense

quick grove
#

But from what i know R5B4 was to be a diversion to help the other prisoners get there mission done and extract when they were finished

subtle verge
#

"Survive for 30 minutes to allow another team to do their mission" or something.

royal finch
#

that kinda makes me think how many teams of prisoners are doing a mission at the same time we do

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or around same time

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would be cool to hear a human scream once in a while, or doors opening/closing

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or shots

subtle verge
#

Judging by the size of Garganta and how much we physically travel in the expeditions, I'd assume at least 10 other teams or so, maybe.

quick grove
#

Welp whats with the pipe banging that says hello i don't know which rundown that was from

solar nova
quick grove
#

...-..--...--- something like that

#

Ye ye

quick grove
royal finch
#

would be a nice detail.

royal finch
subtle verge
#

We're normally the first to be sent down.

solar nova
# quick grove Sense when

Since R1. When you open/close a door, you get an ambient echo from it. If you listen to the ambience of the game, this echo is included as a sound you can hear.

royal finch
#

Damn, unlucky.

solar nova
#

(w/out interacting with a door yourself)

quick grove
quick grove
hollow bough
#

always wondered why those noises played, thought it was like pipes breaking or creaking, not other doors/living creatures interacting with them

quick grove
#

I do hear roars sometimes randomly

solar nova
#

^

#

I don't have a recording, unfortunately.

quick grove
#

So i assume that's a team doing an alarm scan or something

quick grove
royal finch
#

Either I don't remember hearing any of those or my team is usually too talkative for me to listen in on the ambience 😂

hollow bough
#

yeah, probably too talkative

solar nova
hollow bough
#

I did a lot of solo runs in R1

#

so that's when I heard all that stuff

#

ambiance related noises

solar nova
#

Same. Also easier for me to notice if I turn my fan off.

quick grove
royal finch
#

Sometimes I play music because I don't have to rely on my hearing when im with my team, when im with strangers thats a diff story

quick grove
#

Yes

quick grove
cobalt mulch
#

i eely on the combat music, and its ending.. and i love the deep chernobyl horns u sometimes get when u open a door an walk in

quick grove
#

Nah

#

I want to hear where my enemy is at all times

#

But back to lore stuff

cobalt mulch
#

@keen mantle is a tough nut yes.

quick grove
#

Yep

cobalt mulch
#

hopefully r6.5 or r7 will bring about more cool stuff, more answers..

royal finch
#

Speaking of - anyone know when extension/r7 is coming out?

analog frigate
quick grove
#

I want to know what the mimic creature is because as of now that thing is down there with us

analog frigate
#

@shut mountain if you could possibly remove the old pin and add this one

#

ty Hackett_Heart

quick grove
#

@analog frigate any new theory?

#

Or has everything been discussed so far

analog frigate
#

nope, just updated introduction, FAQ and summary

#

(it's the same summary and faq file but with an introduction, but don't tell anyone)

cobalt mulch
analog frigate
#

ah

quick grove
#

Wha?

analog frigate
#

it's one of the 3 unknown sleepers

quick grove
cobalt mulch
#

yep, "also"

quick grove
#

Ah

royal finch
#

Hold your horses, 3? I thought we only had the mimic thing and the one who manifested from the dark and chased that one dude

cobalt mulch
#

the paperskin audio is creepy as hell

analog frigate
#

didn't chase him, only scared him and disappeared

royal finch
#

yeah that, whoops

analog frigate
#

i'll now write a small paragraph with them

quick grove
cobalt mulch
#

word

royal finch
#

Wait till it starts repeating what WE say.

quick grove
#

Mans just sneaking quietly next moment i hear are you a dog or a cat person my friend

#

I'll just die inside

cobalt mulch
#

hopefully new logs etc give some expl about the desiccated plants on teleport, could it be dimension/teleport/timetravel all combined

royal finch
royal finch
#

Imagine you're a prisoner chillin in the dark and then you hear a disorted voice: "FUCK"

analog frigate
#

1: the talking schaeffer creature is pretty self explanatory, you all know it
2: the unknown type of shadow that scared a worker and then just teleported and disappeared. it's not exactly a shadow since the worker saw its shape, not shadow. also the way it just somehow disappeared is very odd
3: the pMother - i have no clue what it is, only its name is mentioned once and that's it

analog frigate
#

possibly

quick grove
#

Wait i thought the big fucked mutated mother was called the pMother

solar nova
quick grove
solar nova
analog frigate
solar nova
#

Hence why I think people calling it that is a bit annoying.

royal finch
#

Can I get a brief explanation what Rise Project is and where the pmother is mentioned?

analog frigate
solar nova
#

No clue.

quick grove
#

This isn't resident evil lol

analog frigate
solar nova
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I know

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And here i thought the lore would only get more and more clearer...

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WELL THEN.

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ah

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Ya know resident evil with the bioweapons

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royal finch
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# royal finch Can I get a brief explanation what Rise Project is and where the pmother is ment...

The Rise project we know nothing about, but the idea is that it may be something to do with the neonate HSUs we see. However, the linking here is more-so intuition than anything we've seen in logs and such.

The neonate and pMother trial samples are seemingly related. In R2, our first objective (R2A1) is to collect the pMother trial samples, which for unknown reasons seems to be the first objective in a chain of objectives leading up to retrieving the neonate (R2E1).

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Because everytime something is answered a new question comes along

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and it all leads back to NAM-V in some way

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and after that, not having enough information

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So yeah 3 new creatures

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mentioned, but never seen

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Ye

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pMother is probably not a sleeper, though, imo.

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it's somehow related, probably in terms of DNA, but that's the only relation

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So we got something that talks we got a worse mother and the neonate thing could that possibly be the thing that chased the guy or girl in the shaft?

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There's a good chance it's something Project Insight was working on, but now that we know more about KDS and their research initiatives there's a pretty strong possibility that "pMother" is "project Mother."

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Could the pMother even be passive

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we don't know

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I mean we already got non sleeper monsters

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Floaters

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And the kraken

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There's just not much reason to associate it with a creature when the stronger explanation, for now, is that it's something more mundane.

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that's a touchy topic

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they are sleepers no matter in both cases

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Ah

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How so

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those being they are the original species of red alpha but turned into sleepers, or that they are the original sleepers

quick grove
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Ah

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there is some connection between sleeper in any case

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So the deeper we go the more mutated sleepers we'll see and possibly allen's sleepers?

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the meteorite is going to be a very interesting experience

quick grove
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more opportunities

quick grove
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Ye but well they probably not even that deep tho

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we still haven't met schaeffer, seen the talking creature, seen the possibly grown up neonate, seen the pmother

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a lot of things

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I thought we had seen the pMother

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I thought that was what was in R3D1

analog frigate
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not confirmed that we have

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Why do people think this?

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Why?

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Me or dara?

analog frigate
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no need to be mean about it ray

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You.

tall anchor
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yeesh

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Nothing connects birthers, a sleeper miniboss, and a "trial sample" related to the neonate.

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Look man, my knowledge of pmother and r3 is old as fuck

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Can't wait for it to turn out the neonate HSU is a modified mother of sorts.

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cause that sure did not look like a human 🤨

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Okay so I'm honestly really confused now

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We never see the baby, we see a leather cover.

royal finch
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That's... a leather cover?

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that looked like some damn muscle tissue 😂

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I mean nothing fucking looks human besides the 4 characters

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more specifically a shell of sorts

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Yes, it's a fabric.

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Wtf