#gtfo-lore
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sleepers are all mayans confirmed
or is it the floor of the MWP room being imprinted
it is not
a Mayan calendar just flew over my house.
The Mayans theory is not possible
just a quick question, is it possibly, as alpha is the only place with daylight/light surfaces, just a placeholder pattern for where the characters spawn in (as you said it's right behind where you load in) just curious
also it's not sand.
or is it aliens?
Guys.
is my dad an alien?
it's sandstone, it's a different texture completely to the ground around it
FRANK BISHOP CONFIRMED
It's lambda.
its an F to pay respects
Can you free cam in this game @eternal talon
don't think so
nope
i have no idea
not without mods
oh my god
Might be a good idea to get a top down shot of it for further analysis @eternal talon
it's a bit too dark
Yeah i know
if you want to run through b1, you can try
whether it's another planet or dimension or whatever, the impact was from space, so whatever the word is, it's aliens, in the same way that in event horizon, the hell portal is in space so even though that is demons, it's alien demons lol
Still might be worth it
aren't the alpha sections timed?
not b1
or d1
d1 is only after you start the alarm
b1 only after you use the terminal
What are you on about?
the impact of chibux crater or whatever it is called
probably. check the constellations
mountain sized sandstorms go brr
did anyone else google impact areas on earth after reading into legit chibux crator and get a little wigged out by how many confirmed giant impact zones/craters are on earth currently
because i didn't I'm big and strong like my dad
I’d do that if we knew average distance from earth
I think so
i was just saying that as a joke to cannibal
This is deep lore please do not joke lives and Merv's patience are on the line.
merv's nigh asleep, it's 9am for him
oh ok let's keep trying to find my dad then
the F is for Frank which could be my dad's name maybe
he used to write Fs in chat just like that
Your dad is Frank Bishop?
I don't know the writers have not finished my deep lore yet
I hope Bishop gets his vengeance, speaking from the heart now
anyone wanna run b1 with me to get a better pic of that sandstone?

I feel like he's the only one, well him and the other guy down there that broke free, who didn't deserve to get entered into legion
Bishop never broke free lol
Schaeffer is his name for sure
You mean schaeffer
Like we know he was a human before NAM-V got out
yeah he had some role in the deeper mining areas, he apparently had lvl 4 access out of 5
Who's the guy that apperantly never existed?@tall anchor
the theory is he was informed of things he wasn't meant to be through "illegal communication" or whatever they called it in the email log, so they slung him in legion
Do you mean bishop’s records being wiped so he never existed?
Oh yeah
sigh, loading into b1 again 109775240986821192 if you want to join to take pics
pic of what 😳
Yes, because apparently he installed spyware on corp. machines and tried to blackmail the big cheese of the company
sandstone i guess
My man frosty doing the madness out here
What do you call people studing rocks
May i please come
sure whatevs
chat channel?
vc 48
That wasn't Schaeffer.
I didn't even read that
If that was schaeffer man wouldn't be talking to us or the mimic thing
This was our man Jordy, the one who also has the log about his prescription dose and he's showing signs of severe addiction and a bit of mania.
Mania?
Manic episode.
Oh
Oh yeah my bad
I got the two mixed up
Also @subtle verge What’s your thoughts on this?
Ouch. It's just a coined name that everyone understands, there's literally no harm in calling it that for now since we don't have an official name yet. You're more than welcome to give it a new name like the aforemention Super Gears of Halo Theft Auto 5. No need to be rude, my guy.
It's good. There are a few things I would challenge here, but I think it's a good starter.
Oh yeah, I'm sure there's stuff to challenge, it was just a first draft
I carried losty through the level, we found several new pieces of deep lore on my dad
hahaha sure
best pic
Hmm...
It does have a very basic appearance of a Mayan carving; also kind of reminds me of a Fallout vault door.
Keeping an open mind: that's pretty big for the future, if it's not a red herring.
I mean its not something Random the devs clearly put it there
Ah yes, the sussy tile
geologists.
This is probably something completely different but the first association I had was the effect from the terminator just "removing" everything around him when he arrived in the first terminator movie. Except here its not shaped like a sphere around us but rather like a cylinder.
Why
?
not ur picture ^^
Ah yes my man a geologist on another planet
What
what
he's talking about the sandstone
Oh
I thought that would be obvious because you talked about it for the last few hours ^^
i dunno, it's behind where you teleport in, not on it. when i got teleported in b1, i turned around without moving
Yeah im confused
indeed
are you saying it might be tied to the teleporter?
i dunno, the shapes just don't really line up
It couldn't be
and you'd think it'd be cut in the sand, not out of rock.
I wish it had a similar effect in d1, then you could just say that its probably linked to being transported by and actual gate instead of these temporary jumps with unsecured artifacts
but no 😦
it's just there, it's own thing in b1
yeah thats too special to be just a random circle
well no, nothing is random per se, everything has to be modeled and placed.
I've also just realized why are there plants behind glass encaged
it said in the b1 voice log in the terminal the plants dried out insanely fast
Ah
relatable
but i mean it also said the soil isn't suitable for plant life,
yet the bramble exists.
So they managed to bring back planets or nah
the plants in the lab are from "excavation deep", so from within the complex
and I don't think bishop started to collect plants
must be some great plants
It's inherently misleading, and I reserve my right to say it's dumb to call it that.
Nah it's not
Everyone has a coined named for anything
I call the creature schaeffer talked to the mimic even tho that might not be even its name
@solar nova
Everything and anything in this game that doesn't have a name will most likely be coined by the community
But you don’t call it “Bishop” because that refers to something else.
Erm because bishop is one of the characters you play as and that is knowned
@raven moss
The creature that schaeffer talks to is not
Its common sense to name something that doesn't have one
@raven moss @solar nova why does both of you sound like people who complain on twitter
good news!
i found a heavy flashlight
honestly was dissapointed with the results. worse than the other pictures i managed
also this picture is taken from the exact position i spawn at.
so no, you don't spawn on it. it's right behind you.
Ah welp that's good so it's got nothing to do with the teleporter then
looks a bit like the 10cc logo 
Nah
@tall anchor you erm gonna keep updating that with logs because im only interested in logs
No
I don't have all logs
Im only interested in the main character logs and schaeffer logs
@tall anchor is there a way i can find those
For all your logs needs.
Also, a timeline: https://www.notion.so/GTFO-Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0
aww bugger I was trying to pawn off the work
Oh wait nvm
lets see if rav will do it
Ah schaeffer sounds so happy when he said "FUCK THEM" "FUCK THE WARDEN" like he finally has a sense of freedom but not really freedom he can atleast think for himself
He also shows sadness towards his dead teammates that he was with
It sounds like the broke the program but the warden got someone or at least something to kill them but schaeffer escaped
sounds like to me like schaeffer went for the longest kite after his party went down
reminder that in the complex, the warden probably isnt your biggest threat.
Yep
When schaeffer talks to us in A1 and D1 is is that all recordings left behind or nah
some of them were fresh, but by definition, all recordings are left behind
Ah
I wonder where he "HAD" to go at the end of D1 he just said "no no no, i have to go"
deeper, probably.
id wager a probably.
True
Because the more reactors that are the deeper the warden can reach
We turned on the elevator for KDS deep so at some point in the future we might even be able to go deeper
Idk my self i know the warden wants power
Hence R6D3 power hungry
id probably say the combination of uplinks and reactors lets the warden reach deeper
taking credentials, information, commands from terminals
So would the complex at this point be a mass grave given the number of causalities.
does anyone know what is being said when you click on a mission? it sounds like a message but its distorted.
Who the 4 dudes again
Hackett Bishop dauda and woods
There
So im woods
You can be anyone deeps
how
That audio file is from droni in #gtfo-media just search for sounds and you'll find it droni doing his magic
Well if you host your bishop if i remember correctly if join second your dauda if you join 3rd your woods and fourth is ummm hackett

That's what we call Schaeffer's Mimic
closest thing we've been able to identify the thing is another variant of Sleeper that's adapting to not be attacked by the other variants along with luring humans to it
What's known is the workers and researchers within the complex ARE the sleepers we've been tasked with killing due to a parasite
Its not a sleeper lmao its from the burning bodys hence its ashy skin
It's theorised to of come from the burning bodies
We dont have to kill them its just we sometimes have to protect ourselves
Yes schaeffer talks about a fire mountain of burning bodies
Talks about fire yes
could be unrelated
Yes paper tin skin with ash
True, but i also found ash on Red Alpha
Ash on red alpha?
With the amount off dust storms i don't think ash will be any where
ash comes down along with rain
That's just sand my dude
sand doesn't fall slowly
Last time i checked nothing fell slowly from the sky when you survive
It's during the survival
And there is no rain during that time
We've found evidence to suggest otherwise
Unless you got screenshots show me
This video here portrays rain
I don't want a video
timestamped along with particles falling down which i believe to be ash
That is the same stuff from B1
But one thing is certain
Thats floating in caves
Sand Doesn't Fall Slowly
and that to me looks like ash of some sort or some sort of substance
all we have is circumstantial
And if you paid attention to B1 theres the same slow falling stuff
neither you or me are right, only the devs will truly know
I know because I've been on C1 3 times and B1 5 times
I cross check both
Same stuff
Ok?
And there's no indecation of fire on Red Alpha
There is also the chance that it is unrelated
This mimic creature comes from the ruinsof the burning bodys and ash
Very unlikely
Explain to me why it's unlikely
Because how can that thing come over from that world to ours
How can the floaters?
Everything is so extremely hostile on that planet
i am not saying personally that i think the mimic came from red alpha, just an observation
The warden couldn't close the quantum tether leaving a literal gateway for them to come in
They're able to teleport short distances, be able to phase through objects and in one mission literally teleport from Red Alpha to another room without said quantum tether
They can't travel long distances
The floaters used the quantum tether to come through
look up during a fight
Those are the floaters that came through the quantum tether
short distance is one part of a room to another
Yep
its different to send something literal hundreds of feet from one side to the other
And if i recall correctly they come from under the bridge which is fuck knows how high
there you go
so explain how they could teleport fuck knows how high to the literal bottom of the rundown
Floaters teleport but last time i recall sleepers don't
alright mate
you do you and i'll do me
besides, the fun of this is our own interpretation
Eh true
But the mimic thing looks human and sleepers dont the only thing sleepers got that looks Human is there deformed bodys
But we might even see non human sleepers if we go deeper because of Allens at the center
that's why i believe floaters ARE infested aliens or my little idea which has no evidence but seems plausible is that it's biomass created by the parasite to be used as scouts/hunter gatherers but as i've said there's no evidence to support that
but again, could be anything until it's confirmed by the creators
The floaters we see are from red alpha not the where the allen's are in the rock on earth
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Thanks for the heads up, handled that spam 
I honestly think mods are the madness tbh always lurking coming to the rescue when needed
Lol!!
Whats so funny?
Nothing
it's possible he could've learned a couple words while on his tour of duty, that sort of thing happens a lot with wars out there, but yeah i don't think he actually says anything
WRDN is a DI.
we only know that he was on missions to venezuela and turkey
What if
yeah
Decision Intelligence if no one knows what DI stand for (ps not saying you don't know punkthulha)
yes
What if?
Sit down and explain why you confuse
Idk
i remember being the one to bring up what DI stands for for the first time by posting the wikipedia article on it since people weren't sure
Tbh i haven't seen you talk much but i do tend to forget people tbh
i haven't been as active recently
Explains why then
his main acc got hacked
it's been a pretty good while since i pointed out the DI thing and formed the idea for how hydrostasis worked
yeah, main account got nabbed and nuked
because a trusted friend of his sent him one of those scams
Damn bro
he was in a damn discord call with me when he did it and since nothing happened to him and he was talking so confidently about it i figured he already clicked on it
Yeah shit happens to quick dude
but no, he was so stupid and lazy that he managed to pass on the thing without actually clicking it himself
he never got hacked, he never clicked the link, but talked as if he did, so he passed the link on, and the link was malicious
and so he didn't get hacked, but i did
Damn
Now that I go back to listening to prisoner voice logs: Woods is Bible-Belt American as Bible-Belt American can get. Going over his voice logs, he sounds like a Annihilationist zealot; with a Tennessee/Georgia kind of accent.
I know this means nothing, but it's triggered some memories from my childhood where I used to hear this kind of zealotry before. Carry on.
definitely more georgia than tennessee
Depends; you get more towards the Nashville, TN area you hear his kind of accent all the time; more urban-southern. But I'll be honest: have never been to Georgia for more than a few hours, so I don't remember much of the dialects.
Now, you get towards the mountains, people start speaking in Cornbread.
yeah sounds about right. when i had to listen to it, he really sounded like somewhere northern, raised in a very religious family
I've never been in America so i wouldn't know
i don't exactly know how to describe his accent, but it's like a family living in the middle of the forest, somewhere northern
neither have i
he isn't exactly properly theist
True but i wouldn't know
some weird variant of theism, probably a different perspective of protenstantism or catholisism
It's a very southern urban accent; the use of 'brother' in his sentences points at that. Here in the midwest we say "y'all/ally'all/y'aller" and things like that. Northerners have a more pronounced vowel in their words: Minnesota (min-uh-so-tuh) becomes something like 'Min-ee-sow-dah' for people who live in that state.
i see
Yeah i realised he uses brothers as in erm a way to show he sees daude hackett and bishop kinda as family i don't know
And if you live in a state that borders Canada, say Wisconsin, instead of 'wizz-con-son' you would hear 'wizz-can-san' from the locals.
his use of the word brother is not something that's too southern, it happens but infrequently, and given his not-very-southern sounding accent (at least to me), i think his use of brother is actually a reflection of his religiousness
Could be true
had family living out in mankato, they would say minesota as "min-uh-so-duh"
might be particular to minneapolis
Yeah, Annihilationism is a very extreme sect of Christianity; usually the "you're all sinners, you're all going to hell," types have this kind of speech pattern.
I hear Mina-soda
Yeah, I guess I'm more used to hearing very rural accents seeing as I have lived in mostly rural areas. That would make more sense seeing urban environments with that lack of pronunciation.
Yes but he doesn't talk about end times does he
No, he more wants his own release.
His own release
well he has more of a "sent by god" belief demeanor
Ah
seeing how most of his combat situations have gone

and it's understandable why
i grew up in la grange, kentucky, about 20 miles E×NE of louisville, the accents are pretty strong in rural areas, but with the exception of particular areas of the states, actual accenting is a bit rare, i think woods likely grew up in a rural area but lost his accent from his time in the military
over a month crawling through enemy territories in turkey, every shot missing him
i lost my accent after moving to quebec city in canada, then had a quebec french accent for two weeks (which basically puts a "question mark" inflection on the end of every sentence and then spaces out sentences a bit more)
I could 100% see that. I lived in Scottsburg, IN most of my life; roughly 30 mins north of Louisville. So it does make sense that any previous accent he had could have diminished.
Happened to me; lost my Tennessee accent when I moved to Indiana, adopted a more urban accent instead of a southern drawl.

yeah, after moving to the east coast, i picked up a liiittle bit of a generic canadian accent on some words, and have recently been having my southern accent come back due to the words just coming out easier while i'm sick
@subtle verge @flat tiger @analog frigate alright its my time to sign off I've got work today so ye cheers
Have a good one, lad.
Night
see ya man, good luck with work
cya
have a good one
i'm pretty sure they are, otherwise they'd just be dead. nam-v doesn't make sleepers by itself, if at all.
Lossty is there a writer dev on the discord that has ever come in to verify thoughts on lore like your rock circle
I am still convinced it's being overthought and it's just intended as a visual placeholder for where "the teleport" brings you in, like a landing pad
even though you spawn in front of it
also i cleared d3pe overnight 😄
ah, good on you. was it the hell i said it'd be?
yes
I was very fortunate there's a badass speed runner that specializes specifically in d3
technically 4 i believe over 2 runs
sky has been running a lot of c3 the past couple days.
but back onto the topic of lore
if anybody would know devs in here, it'd probably be daraxus
nothing like this has ever happened as far as i’m aware
There is one developer who frequents this channel that I know of, D0c, but like all of the other devs, he is under an NDA so he can not confirm or deny anything.
An accurate representation of how he comes along:
Gifs like that.
There was, once upon a time however, a moment he stated to not look too deep into D4s data cube jumping as it was "a bad rabbit hole", however he has since deleted that comment which I think might have crossed the line of the NDA, though it is possible that it may have something to do with canon lore.
I deleted it (and we don't confirm or deny lore theories) because the lore is for you guys to figure out. it wouldn't be fun if we gave the answers to things
and because I didn't want to keep getting pinged when it kept getting quoted. 
but if you want to know all the secrets of gtfo make sure you play
This. I've read them all about 5x now just to attempt to memorize them.
lol thanks punk and thank you Doc thank you for dropping in to confirm
he's saying that bc he knows my papap is down there
Hey, @shut mountain , quick question for you whenever you're not busy! 
Shoot away
@subtle verge
You can always shoot a question away, just might take a day or two for me to reply
if im on dnd but always
Would it be alright if it is a DM?
Yeah its fine
If its heavily moderation related preferably mod contact, but if its something specifically for me or admin you can always shoot it to me or Moon
Awesome! I just wanted to ask before I just threw a dart without a heads up.
smh my head rav is always busy wdym
I have social anxiety leave me alone
lmao
Going back on topic - What the hell is the rundown 5.0 logs page on the wiki
and how can I best assemble these into the page I made yesterday
Best to ask those who frequent the #wiki-chat because I'm clueless on how Wiki works.
It's more about the contents of the log rather than the actual wikitext
(b/c I know how the wiki works, I'm just struggling to understand r5's logs
OH. What context are you looking for?
Like.. how are you listing them?
By date or by alphabet or
(open the page)
Oh, that's weird
I guess I was looking at the wrong page yesterday
ignore me
For reference: the way the wiki has all the logs listed on the dedicated logs page is different to the way it is on the main R5 page, and I was too tired yesterday and looked at the wrong page.
<https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_005_Logs#QVC-911-POP-4.LOG>
Any idea on who the british voice is?
Is that just a legion recruiter?
The "Hello, Woods" guy?
Not entirely sure who it could be, really.
in the transcript i've listed him as "Recruiter"
also no
it wasn't about religion
woods spiraled off into that
due to what happened in venezuela and turkey
but the recruiter tried to keep it more proper interview talk
iirc someone had an idea that he was bishop but the voices don't match up
also intonation and word usage is different
It's possible we might be able to ID who it is if we learn which Genesis Operatives were part of the Sigma generation.
I think lilliana means the second audio log for woods @analog frigate
So how should I 'title' the audio log then?
oooh my bad
haven't done the transcript for that one yet
sorry
I'm not doing transcriptions, I'm working on the timeline page I made yesterday
I want to title it something that readers will be able to search through and find it easily
i've been doing them (at least when i have the time)
'Woods Interview - 0X' (X being the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) or something along those lines for that specific log, I think.
So like 'Woods Interview - 01' or something.
it should be 2
I've been aiming to call them something relevant
Hmm... It's really hard to call it something specific when we know very little of it's context/origin.
Could name it something from the interview; like a memorable line?
"Have you reset me before?"
Something along those lines; whichever you feel is more empowering.
I'd just like it to reflect the contents of the log for people to be able to find and connect
I could do "Woods #1 - "God told you to kill those men?"
I like that.
Just edgy enough to be realistic, but not so edgy that it looks like a Black Veil Brides poster on a teenagers wall.
LMAO
Think I might hit up a voice channel and figure out if there are any hints to who could be sigma/tau generation of KSOs.
Sigma
Ive seen that name before in game
On a log or something can't quite remember
Yeah, two of the R5 logs talks about Sigma/Tau generation of Genesis Operatives (GOs).
I believe there's one mentioning "symbols" an operative was responsible for. Sounds like Woods.
Yeahq
Tho i don't remember what the log about but i remember sigma and tau
Sigma gen.
Yes
D-Lock Block Cipher
Sender: Ellis Carnegie
Receiver: Angela Klein A106
Date: June 8th 2052
Subject: Behavioral anomalies among Sigma gen
Ms. Klein,
I recommend only using Tau gen until we have fully investigated the
issue with Sigma gen. The Pretoria lab is running some tests on our
GOs and our remaining Sigmas to isolate the behaviors you mentioned.
A few questions:
1. Can you send photos of the self-harm you indicated with 0-2056?
We need to confirm if the scarring is indiscriminate or
definitely religious. Our records show this operative has
exhibited similar behavior before, despite multiple resets.
2. The head banging behavior is known in toddlers, but we did not
see that behavior in any of the Genesis Operatives. Does it start
immediately after resuscitation, or after some period of time? I
would like video evidence for the records and a more detailed
report please.
3. Can you send me a list of the operatives you marked as faulty and
sent to recycling? We track both organ and tissue stocks here so
we can trace the history should we need it.
Ellis Carnegie
Kovac Research, Pretoria
Ah yes there we go
That does sound a lot like Woods now that I put it into perspective.
Ye number 1 is definitely talking about woods
Knowing that Woods is a Sigma is a bombshell for chad theory.
100% agreed.
Why do they need gens?
because they are generations
Controlling for variables.
there is a multitude of them
Ah
multiple batches
Designating them as generations helps them perform research for the Legion project more consistently, as they'll have multiple samples per generation that have been developed using similar if not identical methodology.
we don't really know their generation i believe
at least the audio logs show nothing iirc
The only confirmed is Bishop being part of the Genesis generation. "Evaluation of Genesis 1395", R5A3 audio. GO, Genesis Operative, I guess.
But nothing about the others.
Not sure if that's the actual quote, I haven't been able to find transcriptions of any of those audios anywhere
That's something I'm reading on. But yeah, you're definitely right that Bishop is Genesis. I'm going backwards and reading on when each of the main prisoners became part of Legion/KDS. For example, Woods has been around since 2028.
Do we find anything about the prisonners and the guardian ?
the guardian as in the warden?
Yes sorry
don't worry about it
yes we do
the prisoners (dauda, hackett, bishop and woods) are what we call KSOs (Kovac Special/Security Operatives)
they were originally managed by the BIOCOM
a military DI made by KDS (Kovac Defence Services)
So we're not playing random guys. It's the same 4 guys being sent over and over
which then got basically hacked into and it's protocol changed to WRDN (The Warden)
quite right
but we aren't the only ones
yes. we are basically the warden's special forces. the best it has.
edit: but yes, it also has many other teams
you get the special benefits of living!
we do only play as the four, but there are over 2 thousand more
Do the warden have an army kinda. Every end of mission it says we are mentally "unstable" are we getting drugged for those missions ? Do we have mental illness ?
How is death in the lore
we are very mentally unstable
if you die, you die. checkpoints are not cannon
the levels are riddled with bodies of previous attempts
some even stacked nicely (d3 main bh)
as Punkthulhu theorises, they are brainwashed as to become the perfect soldiers, a private army for KDS
not necessarily. most have hard hats* and stuff so can be assumed to just be the workers of Gargantua
those are from researchers in the complex and possible other failed expeditions by other prisoners
also death isn't canon
we always do the mission and get out alive
Okay i see. They HAVE to finish everytime
yes.
I guess they have ptsd and that's why they are so stressed when you meet sleepers or do your weapons (hitting their heads, walking around)
the 4 canonically have never died. we are the A team, though it's implied that the warden has other primary teams for the more dangerous missions (ie: retrieving the matter wave we left in b1)
yes, and also their background
some were "insane" before the whole thing
most are very heavily troubled. hackett killed his 'brother'?
and his mother
what are the other backstories, daraxus?
We get their background during missions on terminal ?
that's the only i can remember
yes
i know one was corporate espionage and blackmail
I only went to B1 max so for now i'm a bit in the fog about everything as far as i know it's some kind of sickness from a laboratory ? Failed experiments that we see in B1 for example no ?
the hydrostasis units also continually wipe their minds, so yeah, they are likely having some deep internal troubles.
so dauda was a researcher working for KDS, bishop got into the legion program because he tried to blackmail davies, and woods was an amazing soldier most of the time
that's the basic overview
that's a deep topic
ah, BISHOP was the blackmail one
we have the main thing: NAM-V
i couldn't remember if it was him or woods
actually
well we know what nam-v is for the most part. just a couple of kinks.
What
baco, first i suggest reading this
it's a small summary and FAQ about gtfo
currently me and punk are working on an updated version to replace this one
nice, can't wait to see it!
been putting alot of research and study into this channel
haven't been this invested in gtfo lore since r2
well the lore does go pretty deep
oh, daraxus, did you see my post about that sandstone carving?
i got a pic with the heavy flashlight
^
best pic i probably got was this one with a squad.
Okay that's really interesting but if i understood well, humanity is kinda doomed ? That's not much people alive after the outbreak
yup
yeah. basically 95%+ of humanity is dead.
nam-v got out of garganta and killed most of humanity
Damn i'm disappointed in Humanity
99.995%
Superior species my ass
well you can't exactly blame them
luckily though, only the virus and not the parasite, so at least there aren't sleepers for the survivors to deal with.
that's not fully confirmed
Virus kill, parasite turn you into a sleeper ?
we still don't know for sure that NAM-V causes or doesn't cause sleepers
go-to theory is, yeah.
it's a bit complicated
we know it's a symbiotic relationship
mostly
we really need a pdf just for this specific topic, huh?
well it's not like i don't have one at hand
"Symbiotic" still turn you into a monster that try to kill other living things
no, the parasite and the virus are.
not the parasite and humans.
Ooooh
the virus makes hosts, the parasite controlls them, and keeps them alive to keep the virus alive and spreading so it doesn't burn itself out of fuel.
that's still a theory though ^
But don't you get blood on yourself or wounds by the sleepers
remember to take everything with a grain of salt
You should get infected aswell
not exactly
point being; together, the virus can be far more lethal and fast acting without worrying about killing its own infected supply.
and the virus gets to claim weakened hosts easier and with less resistance.
when we get back in our HSUs, the virus is stopped from spreading, or gets reversed.
as dauda said: "we're all infected"
sald
What is the ambassador role btw ?
update newsletter
How do they achieve that ?
i dunno, probably same way disinfectant packs work.
oh, disinfectant packs work differently
they remove the toxic fog infection
which is different
here is another document explaining what it is
The HSUs, Hydro-Stasis Units, put things in to a stasis, to the point of cell death, using a synthetic amniotic fluid. This stasis stops the virus, and presumably parasites if we have them on us, from working. We aren't for sure exactly if we remain infected after we're revived from stasis, however.
It's still an on-going mystery to us.
Definitely worth checking out the FAQ in the pins. We also have a dedicated Wiki with every audio and text log to date, as well as a timeline which you can find in the pins, as well!
Wait so each time you leave a mission you go to "sleep" and get waken up for another mission ?
It's a lot of reading, but it helps you get a baseline idea of what we have to work with and where we're at.
quite right
That is correct!
LMAO i understand why they are mentally unstable now
Never ending fight for your life
Oh man, that's a huge rabbit hole that I'm working on.
I'm theorizing and uncovering as much as I humanly can on Project Legion and how it affects the human mind and body.
Can't believe none of them tried to shoot themself yet. As you said there must be some kind of brainwashing
I'm currently working on a theory for it, and it all points to Project Legion.
yup
TL;DR of what I have so far: Project Legion is a way to make the ultimate soldier who follows every order without question or emotion. They're given a directive, they do it.
Why not use robots instead
And we can see that in a recorded log we have available to us, where a KSO (Kovac Security Operative) is directed to stand in a closet for 6 minutes.
Cost, time, maintenance, upkeep, things like that I'd imagine. It's known that Kovac Defense Services (KDS) uses prisoners and war criminals, as the individual keeps their instinct to kill and training with firearms, however the HSUs wipe memories over long periods of exposure.
What did i miss
not much, just explanations
Erasing combat experiences. Sound bad to me
There are robots in Garganta, however, though I am more on the boat that they were used to move heavy equipment and boxes around.
they don't exactly do that
they still keep it to some extent
and they receive further training afterwards
Yeah, it's not a 100% wipe, it's more long-term memory loss.
very
It's incredibly deep.
Like how we believe that NAM-V has wiped out 99.98% of the human population on earth.
But that's not proven, just lots of theory and calculations.
Could be fake to make the prisoners "hateful" and need to get a revenge
But that's a lot of overthinking from me
they can't really do that
as far as we know, they can't really think for themselves
although schaeffer kinda has
We know of one individual who has somewhat broken the hold that WRDN has over us, and that's Schaeffer, who we hear talking to us often.
well schaeffer broke away from the warden, didn't he?
seems so
Wdym ? They still feel fear, they can thanks their team mate and stuff. Where are they stuck in their mind ? If i make sense
as punk said, brainwashed
they can think yes, but not to a high extent
it's mostly military tactics
The main prisoners aren't mindless drones, they still for the most part have bodily autonomy.
I think the warden is smart enough not to erase any combat experience and stuff
However they're programmed to get the BIOCOM's/WRDN's task done.
it wasn't it that erased it, it's KDS with the Legion program
biocom is gone, isn't it? when the world ended?
not really
No, BIOCOM still exists, Warden just took the system over.
the Warden is the BIOCOM, just under a different protocol
Why doesn't the warden send more people at the same time ?
it probably does
there are expeditions with the goal to help missions in nearby sectors
It does! For example, R6C3, we're a distraction for another team of prisoners.
the lift can only fit 4 pods though, right?
Imagine maps where you could meet other teams
There were some in R5, as well.
Oh good
is that confirmed?
it'd have to go all the way back up and all the way down
Yes
The team is a distraction, but that there are other prisoners?
hud display literally states their progress
that's the lift we use down the main shaft, we don't know if more prisoners are sent in immediately after it's raised up
yeah. another team does the mission, we basically keep the baddies off them
Yeah, two tanks and hundreds of sleepers.
Yes, it's confirmed that there are other prisoners. Schaeffer, for one, is a good example. And then we think there are at least 2000-or-so more that we don't know of.
teams of 4 are probably just standard because that's what most of the equipment is made for
security scans, esc.
The machine they are dropped in is made for it too.
The main thing I'm curious on for that mission is if one of the other missions in the rundown is supposed to be the mission that the other is distracting for.
Dude
That would be great
But according what they say it doesn't work
Since we always play the same 4 guys
Let me phrase this in a way that I understand: you're asking if R6C3 is a distraction for another mission that we are responsible for completing as well?
Didn't realize that lore wise that's how it was set-up.
R6C3 is an expedition to clear out an area for a mission that other prisoners are going to do
We aren't the only prisoners being sent on missions, no. There are probably tens of other teams going on an expedition at the time we're being sent on missions.
to me there has always been the ambient soundscape where randomly it sound like a dying giant with or without gunshots.. just assumed that they wanted me to think theres operations hapoening elsewhere atst..
it could be others, yeah
Jesus im gone for 5 mins and so much to read
that's the lore chat for you
We're slow for a day or two, then it's nonstop for a week, then back to being slow for two days, repeat.
Aren't warden protocols to distract the sleepers so that the other prisoners can do their missions quickly with lesser problems
or in the ye old days, it was active always, trying to scrape all the lore left in r5
doesnt check the lore channel for 2 days
100+ messages
duck has had it quite the same

with 600 messages
damn boy
not really
new method of torture: make people read 600 messages worth of gtfo lore
eh it's been kind of repeating
I love it
would be cool to sometimes see some npc crew doing something in the distance or have a mission to actively assist or be assisted by a team (not too close tho) .. a figure standing on an unreachable ledge an saluting us as he runs off or sth
I don't think Warden Protocols have anything to do with how the Sleepers react; the protocols are simply what the Warden's logic & directive is; it's protocols are basically just: "Here's my end goal, here's what I need to do to achieve it."
Behind closed doors, guys hitting it with their hands screaming for help that kinf of stuff
nailed it, yes
We theorize that we'll see Schaeffer and his little mimic friend at some point.
we hope :)
That'd be a good way to introduce blood/Motion Sensor doors in a rundown.
Ngl, seeing another human being in the complex after so long will be hella strange
i love it
R5B4 was to be a distraction so that the other prisoners can do there mission
Right, but Warden protocols had nothing to do with it.
Don't we have a weapon to see what's behind doors anyways ?
the biotracker works differently
The protocols are just there to activate reactors, gather information, etc.
Oh wait what is a warden protocol i thought thats the 30min survive thing
oh
Oh im wrong then sorry i thought tbe warden protocol was the 30min thing
yes that's the name for the type of mission
Haha no worries. The protocol is just "here's the mission, go do it."
it is in fact called "warden protocol"
Ah okay
but it refers to the specific protocol the warden gave
rather being the actual warden protocols
they are a bit conflicting in terms of names but it still makes sense
But from what i know R5B4 was to be a diversion to help the other prisoners get there mission done and extract when they were finished
"Survive for 30 minutes to allow another team to do their mission" or something.
yup
that kinda makes me think how many teams of prisoners are doing a mission at the same time we do
or around same time
would be cool to hear a human scream once in a while, or doors opening/closing
or shots
Judging by the size of Garganta and how much we physically travel in the expeditions, I'd assume at least 10 other teams or so, maybe.
Welp whats with the pipe banging that says hello i don't know which rundown that was from
You can hear doors every now and then.
R4B1.
Sense when
Kinda struck me as odd we dont ever see any signs of another team being in the same level as us like opened lockers/chests or fresh bodies ig
would be a nice detail.
😭 guess im deaf
That's because we're the "alpha" team, so to speak.
We're normally the first to be sent down.
Since R1. When you open/close a door, you get an ambient echo from it. If you listen to the ambience of the game, this echo is included as a sound you can hear.
Damn, unlucky.
(w/out interacting with a door yourself)
Because if i may be mistaken we're the first one's to go down to these levels sometimes i think not always
Wow really got any audio i can listen to
always wondered why those noises played, thought it was like pipes breaking or creaking, not other doors/living creatures interacting with them
I do hear roars sometimes randomly
So i assume that's a team doing an alarm scan or something
Damn
Either I don't remember hearing any of those or my team is usually too talkative for me to listen in on the ambience 😂
yeah, probably too talkative
Not sure what to think of it tbh, but it is distinctly the same sound effect.
I did a lot of solo runs in R1
so that's when I heard all that stuff
ambiance related noises
Same. Also easier for me to notice if I turn my fan off.
Yeah i turn music down lol to hear shit because it gets irritating to hear constant music in my ears when i play gtfo
Sometimes I play music because I don't have to rely on my hearing when im with my team, when im with strangers thats a diff story
Yes
Wyvrenking literally finished the whole rundown without hearing man is a madness
i eely on the combat music, and its ending.. and i love the deep chernobyl horns u sometimes get when u open a door an walk in
@keen mantle is a tough nut yes.
Yep
hopefully r6.5 or r7 will bring about more cool stuff, more answers..
Speaking of - anyone know when extension/r7 is coming out?
3 different file formats of the new and improved version of GTFO lore introduction. feel free to say if anything has to be added but remember that it has to remain mostly surface level.
I want to know what the mimic creature is because as of now that thing is down there with us
nope, just updated introduction, FAQ and summary
(it's the same summary and faq file but with an introduction, but don't tell anyone)
and also the teleporting sleeper'y creature thing in the dead-end mineshaft, appeared, screamed and vanished or sth
ah
Wha?
it's one of the 3 unknown sleepers
The mimic creature and the thing that teleported in the dark are two different creatures not the same
yep, "also"
Ah
Hold your horses, 3? I thought we only had the mimic thing and the one who manifested from the dark and chased that one dude
the paperskin audio is creepy as hell
didn't chase him, only scared him and disappeared
yeah that, whoops
i'll now write a small paragraph with them
Imagine hearing the mimic just talk and stuff id shit my pants bro
word
Wait till it starts repeating what WE say.
Mans just sneaking quietly next moment i hear are you a dog or a cat person my friend
I'll just die inside
hopefully new logs etc give some expl about the desiccated plants on teleport, could it be dimension/teleport/timetravel all combined
Hackett, probably: starts teaching it how to swear
Teleportation not time travel
Imagine you're a prisoner chillin in the dark and then you hear a disorted voice: "FUCK"
1: the talking schaeffer creature is pretty self explanatory, you all know it
2: the unknown type of shadow that scared a worker and then just teleported and disappeared. it's not exactly a shadow since the worker saw its shape, not shadow. also the way it just somehow disappeared is very odd
3: the pMother - i have no clue what it is, only its name is mentioned once and that's it
Yes
pmother new boss???? 
possibly
Wait i thought the big fucked mutated mother was called the pMother
Probably not, seems to be related to the neonate and, if you buy into the Rise project speculation, it's probably related to a KDS project.
The one with the ribs
No, there's nothing to indicate that.
so something like a cyberdemon type thing?
Hence why I think people calling it that is a bit annoying.
Can I get a brief explanation what Rise Project is and where the pmother is mentioned?
bioweapon?
No clue.
This isn't resident evil lol
we know almost nothing about the rise project
It's a bit less direct than that.
the cyberdemon is from doom
I know
I was referring to this
ah
Ya know resident evil with the bioweapons
gtfo lore is almost as unclear as game lore can get, but it's the most beautiful of them all
i know
I mean some parts of the game has been debunked and stuff right just not everything
Its like FNAF when it was beginning to get popular 😂
The Rise project we know nothing about, but the idea is that it may be something to do with the neonate HSUs we see. However, the linking here is more-so intuition than anything we've seen in logs and such.
The neonate and pMother trial samples are seemingly related. In R2, our first objective (R2A1) is to collect the pMother trial samples, which for unknown reasons seems to be the first objective in a chain of objectives leading up to retrieving the neonate (R2E1).
Because everytime something is answered a new question comes along
not at all, we have only theories, then those theories bring more theories and questions
and it all leads back to NAM-V in some way
and after that, not having enough information
Ah so pMother is yet to be seen ans then the neonate thing
So yeah 3 new creatures
mentioned, but never seen
Ye
pMother is probably not a sleeper, though, imo.
it's somehow related, probably in terms of DNA, but that's the only relation
So we got something that talks we got a worse mother and the neonate thing could that possibly be the thing that chased the guy or girl in the shaft?
So non sleeper monsters
There's a good chance it's something Project Insight was working on, but now that we know more about KDS and their research initiatives there's a pretty strong possibility that "pMother" is "project Mother."
Could the pMother even be passive
we don't know
None, more likely some kind of artifact or something that was manufactured or otherwise.
There's just not much reason to associate it with a creature when the stronger explanation, for now, is that it's something more mundane.
those being they are the original species of red alpha but turned into sleepers, or that they are the original sleepers
Ah
there is some connection between sleeper in any case
.. project insight?
it would be very weird thing to just throw in a completely new thing
So the deeper we go the more mutated sleepers we'll see and possibly allen's sleepers?
A research organization that works under Dreyfus Industries.
well, we still haven't gone to 2k
Project insight is the MWP i think
the meteorite is going to be a very interesting experience
Yep so theres more monsters to be added
got it
we do have 3 that were mentioned
more opportunities
Ye but well they probably not even that deep tho
we still haven't met schaeffer, seen the talking creature, seen the possibly grown up neonate, seen the pmother
a lot of things
not confirmed that we have
Me or dara?
no need to be mean about it ray
You.
yeesh
Nothing connects birthers, a sleeper miniboss, and a "trial sample" related to the neonate.
Look man, my knowledge of pmother and r3 is old as fuck
Can't wait for it to turn out the neonate HSU is a modified mother of sorts.
cause that sure did not look like a human 🤨
Okay so I'm honestly really confused now
We never see the baby, we see a leather cover.
I mean nothing fucking looks human besides the 4 characters
more specifically a shell of sorts
Yes, it's a fabric.
Wtf