gtfo-lore

[lilac island]

they were literally off the grid

i first believed we were on the surface of the planet

due to not knowing what planet we were on

[tall anchor]

I mean, it depends on general distance

[lilac island]

is it confirmed we are on earth?

[tall anchor]

Depending on how extremely far the planet is, you could starmap the night sky onto ours

[subtle verge]

Garganta is on earth.

[lilac island]

alright

[tall anchor]

tip of mexico to be exact

[subtle verge]

"Red Alpha" is not it's real name, but a coined name -- we don't know.

That's the place we jump to.

But yeah, we're in the Chicxulub Crater in Yucatan, Mexico.

[lilac island]

it's clearly a different planet entirely

we're lucky it has oxygen xD

[tall anchor]

It has very similar physiology to earth though, which is very interesting

Like, sandstone rocks and the like, it could easily be in arizona tbh lmaoooo

[lilac island]

planets have been found to be like earth before

i believe there is one in another solar system we found a time ago

forgot the name of it but it was 5 years ago i believe

[subtle verge]

I personally believe that we bend space-time to get to where we go, and that we use a quantum tether to keep Garganta/Earth and Red Alpha in the same time-space.

[lilac island]

i think your right

[subtle verge]

Even though it's a massive distance from one to the other.

[lilac island]

this is where i point to einstein

Theory of relativity and all that

[subtle verge]

And I believe it to be the case because of the audio log that states "I sent watered plants over, I check on them, it looks like they've been dead for months, even years."

[tall anchor]

I’m in the boat of your not actually tethering time

[tall anchor]

OH, I assumed that was because of the aridity

[lilac island]

i do not believe we can control time

[subtle verge]

Nah, they were in a very protected container.

[tall anchor]

That’s a very good point

[subtle verge]

They sent it a week before the researchers jumped themselves.

[lilac island]

i believe it to be a simple teleporting device

how though can't truly be specified

which, i'm kind of ok with

[subtle verge]

Are you familiar with how quantum entanglement works?

[lilac island]

No

That's more research to look into

[subtle verge]

I won't go into the nitty gritty, however there is a theory that through quantum entanglement, you create a quantum tether.

And that tether ties two protons together, and keeps them together even though they might be trillions of lightyears away.

Those two protons stay in the exact same time-space as the other.

[tall anchor]

Oh lord we don’t actually know how long bishop survived on that planet

[lilac island]

so you believe that this has happened enough times to create a literal hole to jump from one location to the other?

[subtle verge]

The way I like to explain it in a very simple way: imagine there is a quantum tether from your left ear to your right ear. If I were to put a little dot on your left ear lobe with a marker, the same exact dot would appear in the same exact place on your right ear at the exact moment that marker touched your left ear.

Even though the marker never touched your right ear, it still affected it.

[lilac island]

i get that

that would mean you're in two places at once

[subtle verge]

Not quite

[lilac island]

say i was to move further away from that area?

would that take me away from the entry point?

[finite vine]

this is actually a really good observation.

[subtle verge]

It's not that you're in two places at once, it's that both protons experience the same state regardless if one is affected by another force or not.

Basically meaning:

Those protons, no matter the distance, would experience the exact same time-space.

[lilac island]

alright

i'm a bit dumb in that regard xD

[subtle verge]

Lmao. It's very, very, complicated.

[lilac island]

alright

[subtle verge]

I don't know if I fully understand it myself, but I'm trying my best.

[lilac island]

One thing i will do is throw a curveball

[subtle verge]

It's a very niche portion of quantum physics.

[lilac island]

Explain how we go back into that area when picking up datacubes?

[subtle verge]

The data cubes actually interact with the MWP. There are slots in the MWP for those cubes.

[lilac island]

AH!

[subtle verge]

Exactly how it all ties together.. I don't know, I never really thought about it.

[lilac island]

Now i get ya

[finite vine]

yep

[subtle verge]

However, Stokes does mention the data cubes as anomalies and how it interacts with the MWP.

In an audio log.

[lilac island]

I would say look more into it

i think it will explain more if we can link it together

[subtle verge]

Perhaps.

[lilac island]

doesn't hurt in trying

[subtle verge]

I'm all for it. I need to sober up from this edible before I do, though. I won't remember it in the morning.

[lilac island]

XD

"This Edible Aint Shit"

[subtle verge]

Ever since I moved to Chicago, I didn't know what I missing out. Now my brain power is becoming tenfold what it once was.

I can theorize MORE.

[lilac island]

YES!

But yeah, i kinda like what i'm hearing

although i will say, it's not all about the details

[subtle verge]

I'm telling you, fi you're a lore junky like I am, this game is the epitome of lore hunting.

[tall anchor]

Oh, punk

[subtle verge]

And interpretation.

[lilac island]

Funnily enough this is my first time actually Lore Hunting

[tall anchor]

you asked about the blue veiny creature that someone sees

[subtle verge]

Hey, it was my first game to lore hunt too!

[subtle verge]

Schaffer's mimic, right?

[tall anchor]

Schaeffer?

[subtle verge]

That's the only one I know of.

[tall anchor]

Yeah

[subtle verge]

Then there's the shadow-creature seen in the depths.

By one of the workers.

[lilac island]

Blue eh?

[tall anchor]

I just thought you’d be interested in the skin paleness, as that’s usually connected with collagen mutations

[subtle verge]

Oh, man, Shadow let me LINK YOU THESE AUDIO LOGS, MY GUY.

[lilac island]

XD

But hold on

[lilac island]

Blue right?

[tall anchor]

I personally have one, makes my skin strechier and more see-through, giving more view to veins/blood vessels

[tall anchor]

There’s something else in here. I hear it, footsteps in the tunnels. In the walls, I hear it. Growling but not… not like one of the creatures. It… it tries to talk. To anyone, to no one but it’s using a voice that… that doesn’t belong to it. The words make no sense. I… I saw it once: White, blue veins under paper skin, so clean. Almost human; almost. It was covered in dust or maybe a powder or ashes. From a… from a fire… Yes… a fire. I remember the fires. Outside from the person who was here before me or is that a dream? A mountain of bodies on fire. Smoke blocking the sun. The dead and twisted… [sobbing] This is my fault. It’s all my fault! There is more than one. At first, when the creatures heard it, they tore it apart. As they ripped into it, it kept talking; trying to speak. It had no fear. Now the creatures don’t see it anymore, it walks through them like a ghost. If it has no fear it can’t be one of us. Next time I see it, I’m going to kill it.

[subtle verge]

"Blue veins under paper skin, so clean. Almost human; almost. It was covered in dust or maybe a powder or ashes."

[finite vine]

the part about keeping garganta and red alpha in the same time space seems like a good theory, but I also think an important thing about the quantum tether is that it is probably a direct link to the people that the MWP transported, so they can be transported back.

[subtle verge]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0

Ctrl+F --> SC3-3BF-03 (Found in R6C2)

Ctrl+F --> SC3-1BG-98 (Found in R6C2)

Just gives those a listen.

[lilac island]

Paper Skin, within the parasite report it may have a link there

[subtle verge]

That's how it would work, yeah. It's a gateway, so to speak.

A two-way street.

[lilac island]

Blue veins makes me want to link it to the spitters

they carry a blue like substance

liquid

[subtle verge]

So read/listen to that first one, then listen to that second one I mentioned.

I think it'll come together a bit more.

[lilac island]

I mean i don't think there's reason to believe this but, what if this was someone undergoing transformation of becoming a sleeper?

or is it simultaneous?

[subtle verge]

It's possible, however I think it's more of an evolution of the Sleeper.

Listen to that second log and I can explain my theory on it.

[lilac island]

Alright

i'll take a listen

[finite vine]

also, the observation you mentioned about the plants withering away, seeming like they have been on red alpha for months, could have something to do with time dilation. however, time dilation actually generally slows things down for the observer, so it does not really make much sense that the plants, once sent to red alpha, seemed much much older, years older in fact. It is probably possible to calculate the amount of dilation occurring. @subtle verge

[tall anchor]

it would be very easy if we had the plants in front of us

[finite vine]

Well if we knew how long the plants seemed like they were on the planet for, and how long the observer (people on earth) thought they were on the planet for, it might be possible to get a general idea.

[lilac island]

when the creatures heard it, they tore it apart. As they ripped into it, it kept talking; trying to speak. It had no fear.

when the creatures heard it, they tore it apart.

The creatures being the sleepers

[subtle verge]

Did you listen to the 2nd log?

[lilac island]

not yet

but still

[tall anchor]

Earth put them there the week before jump

and they seemed completely desecrated 'as if they had been there for months'

[lilac island]

I have now heard the second log and i'm now on edge

that's fucked xD

[subtle verge]

Notice how it seemingly has very practiced sentences, then notice that it doesn't answer any of the questions that Schaeffer throws at it. My theory is that it doesn't actually know how to speak like we can or really even understand communication, but it works like a parrot or lyrebird in the idea that it can mimic sounds as either a defense mechanism or a predatory mechanism to lower the guard of it's prey.

My thought process goes along the lines of: it's a new subspecies of Sleeper. It's familial pheromone is either different or masked, as it can "walk through them like a ghost," which makes me think it can secrete a pheromone that makes the other sleepers unable to detect it as it travels.

Hence why the sleepers originally attacked it.

[lilac island]

Hold on

[subtle verge]

And it may or may not have some form of regenerative ability to it.

[lilac island]

it very well could be

remember that with the clicking, the vocal chords were fucked beyond recognition

[tall anchor]

sleepers 'smelling' or tasting their prey would be interesting

[tall anchor]

there's echolocation

[lilac island]

there is

[subtle verge]

It works both ways, actually, which is really interesting. If a tether is 'cut' from one place to another, time would speed up for both places if you look at it from both perspectives.

[lilac island]

That is true

i was thinking the same thing

if it can slow down

why can't it speed up?

[lilac island]

If you look into the subject itself the vocal chords of the body itself are shredded by the parasite while the transformation process occurs

[tall anchor]

The problem that makes me struggle with this is 'how do the sleepers know where you are'

[subtle verge]

For example: If I were on Red Alpha, you were on Earth, time would speed up in between us, even though your second and my second might be the same. I could look at Earth and see that it's fastforward in time by 10 years and it would be 10 seconds to me. And it would also appear that way to you. 10 seconds for you is 10 years for me, etc.

[lilac island]

I think this would be simple

I was thinking that maybe it was the vibrations within the ground

kinda how some insects understand movement

[tall anchor]

oh wait it is vibrations within the ground

i'm a dumbass, sorry

[subtle verge]

We can notice that sleepers don't have eyes. There could be 100 different variations to answer this question, really.

I stand on the concept of pheromones.

[lilac island]

You're not

[subtle verge]

Like how ants and bees work.

Humans secrete pheromones, as well, but we can't detect it like they can.

[lilac island]

Ok, i'd like a basis off tht

What parasite goes off of pheremones?

[tall anchor]

Because there was a way of efficiently killing sleepers by sprint jumping, so the game only counts the steps on the ground as actual steps, allowing you to jump in mid air and keep moving

and hitting your hammer against the floor wakes them up

[lilac island]

it also explains why when you get close they ping aswell

[subtle verge]

The only one I can think of are nematodes.

[lilac island]

ok

i do not think you are wrong

but further evidence is needed

[subtle verge]

And I'm going off the basis of what we see Scouts secrete when they scream.

Not only do they scream, but they secrete that bright blue 'dust'

[lilac island]

That is true

but that's only a short distance

and it alerts an entire horde a few rooms down

[subtle verge]

Pheromones can be detected a lot further than what we can visually see, though.

[lilac island]

Hmm

[tall anchor]

It would make sense if it was a wave of some sort

[subtle verge]

A female tiger in heat can be detected upwards of 10 miles away, for example.

[tall anchor]

Because we know waves can pass through solid rock

[lilac island]

Then the opposite occurs

why doesn't the entire level descend on us?

[subtle verge]

Partially, I think it has to do with game design for one.

[lilac island]

of course

i was expecting that xD

[tall anchor]

I agree that it's game design for sure

[lilac island]

but besides that

[subtle verge]

The other side of me thinks that the metal walls and doors are probably thick enough after a certain point that things in a certain distance can't detect it.

[lilac island]

i still think more evidence is needed for it to be classified as a theory

[tall anchor]

But it's gotta be waves, how the hell else are they going to know where Schafe and the people who MWP jumped are if they're removed and hiding?

Because there's that second researcher who survived's log, he talks about how bish constantly has them moving to another place, and they find them every time

[lilac island]

depends on what waves we're talking about

[subtle verge]

Who are you talking about?

Oh are you referencing Dr Durants 2 audio logs?

[finite vine]

I’m talking about relativity’s time dilation, which also works both ways. it’s just in all instances of time dilation that i have heard of, time is sped up for the observer (people on earth). which would mean that red alpha is either traveling really fast (which is unlikely), or near a large gravitational influence (which it is not because it has normal gravity). that is not the case though, because time was sped up for the plants, and not the observer. i probably confused a lot of people, and i will eventually dive deeper into this and write something more comprehensible later on lol.

[tall anchor]

The guy who goes with bish and the other group as they go through the Quantum entanglement portal thingie to Red Alpha

[lilac island]

one thing i would like to say on this

If we're saying it's an entirely different planet it means that something else could change to have it die that fast

we don't exactly know what but it is a possibility

[finite vine]

yea like something in the atmosphere, which dr durant suggested in the log.

audio log

[subtle verge]

Oh, yeah, KSOs and Dr Durant's research team.

The only survivor of that expedition was Bishop.

[tall anchor]

Yeah, before he dies there's a log about how the floaters always find them

[lilac island]

Speaking of Which!

[subtle verge]

Right. Floaters are an entity of their own, and I don't really understand anything about them other than what we can visually observe.

[lilac island]

If the sleepers are parasites

WHAT ARE THE FLOATERS!

A different alien speces?

[subtle verge]

Not a damn clue, really.

[tall anchor]

Because if NAM-V+parasites+organisms communicate/sense where people are without conventional eyes or ears, then they would have some sort of vibrational wave recceptors, which could explain how scouts work, and why they're alerted by alarms/reactors and the like,

[lilac island]

I have alarm bells ringing

[subtle verge]

We think that they're an infected native species to Red Alpha..

But we really don't know.

[lilac island]

We could be dealing with an entirely different organism here!

[tall anchor]

My working theory is that the floaters are NAM-V + Parasite infected organisms

[subtle verge]

Go run D1 and you'll get some more insight.

[tall anchor]

Because they share similarities with sleepers

[lilac island]

There's always similarities when it comes to parasites so i've gotten very excited

[subtle verge]

When I said it'll answer some, but offer even more questions.. I mean it.

[lilac island]

They could be working off of normal echo location like originally suggested

[tall anchor]

Sleepers are also humanoid and have specific gamete-related abilities and attacks too, which means there's gotta be some kind of overlap

[lilac island]

because they float

[subtle verge]

They also traverse through solid objects. 😄

[lilac island]

WHAT?!

[subtle verge]

Like walls, and solid ground.

[lilac island]

EXCUSE ME!

[subtle verge]

Yep.

One moment:

[lilac island]

THEY CAN PHASE THROUGH WALLS?!

Alright so this is clearly a different alien species

or its own damn lifeform that was created out of biomass that somehow breaks the laws of physics to phase through objects

[finite vine]

are we sure this is not a gameplay design decision?

[subtle verge]

They're able to quantum leap, too. Part of me thinks it has to do with the crystals that's imbedded in their backsides.

Though, it could very well be a game design choice.

[finite vine]

yea i’ll agree with the teleporting and crystals

[subtle verge]

At this point, I know so little about them that...

I'm open to really anything.

Lmfao.

[lilac island]

Are we saying they're able to literally do a star wars

and do a small distance hyper speed jump

[subtle verge]

That is correct.

You'll see it later on. I think D2 extreme.

[lilac island]

Alright

Well then

i'd say more research is needed

but if what you say about the tether exists

[subtle verge]

So in B1, we left the quantum tether open because WRDN couldn't turn it off for whatever reason, so they followed us in to Garganta.

[lilac island]

then we need to explain those bastards

[subtle verge]

As far as we know, that tether is still open.

[lilac island]

That is true

that makes me think we've left a portal to the other world open for them to pour through

[subtle verge]

So I'm thinking the crystals embedded in to them allow for some small-distance teleportation.

[lilac island]

which they do in B1 to hunt us down

[subtle verge]

And maybe even the ability to phase through solid wall.

But, again, could be game design.

[lilac island]

probably game design

but the teleportation, i want to go back to that

with the Matter Wave Projector both in the log you've just shown and what you have said goes back to quantum tethering

are we suggesting the crystals can be utilised to create tethers in reality for short distance teleportation?

[tall anchor]

Well yeah

[subtle verge]

I would say so, yeah.

[tall anchor]

They'd require less power/juice than the long distance one

[subtle verge]

As to the science behind it.. couldn't tell you.

[lilac island]

well

This is Sci-Fi

we won't have all the answers

[subtle verge]

I'd imagine it's just a smaller variation of the larger jump, really.

[finite vine]

I think the tether uses matter wave frequency’s as a pathway back to earths. when the MVP detects the quantum tethers frequency, it transports all matter waves within the projection radius to where the quantum tethers matter wave is originating from.

[lilac island]

I would think so to

[tall anchor]

And assuming Red Alpha is at least a lightyear away, the ratio of power needed would be more than enough made by the aliens' body

[lilac island]

this makes me excited xD

[subtle verge]

Definitely a possibility. When I visualize it, I just see it as a high-speed internet cable that allows for real-time communication and data transfer over a very large distance.

[tall anchor]

• I'm just using basic power principles here, not confirmed.

[finite vine]

so the floaters detected the quantum tethers matter waves and they used it to transport to earth.

[lilac island]

that i can believe

but what i'm hearing is that they can jump from one end of the room to the other

[subtle verge]

Uhh they don't do that visually in-game.

[tall anchor]

which is incremental compared to what the matter wave gen must be pulling

[subtle verge]

But I'm sure they could if they wanted to.

[lilac island]

They just fart and they teleport

"Oops"

[tall anchor]

How much would the matter wave gen be pulling though?

[lilac island]

Better Question

[subtle verge]

Light spoilers: when you trigger the extreme part of D2 or D3 (can't remember which) you fight a Titan and floaters that just start popping in from little flashes of light on the celing.

It's a fairly large room, too.

[lilac island]

I have a theory

[finite vine]

wdym

[lilac island]

I wouldn't say the matter wave projector itself

but the material used for it

as it's foreign

[lilac island]

My theory being that what if the Matter Wave Projector was starting to become unstable?

[subtle verge]

IIRC there is mention that it uses the new material, Cretasium 77A, as a part of the device.

But that the material gets eaten up quickly.

[tall anchor]

Ah, that's it's power source then

[lilac island]

That would be correct

[finite vine]

yea i’m pretty sure the crystals we see in the MVP, on the floaters, and on Red Alpha are cretasium crystals

[subtle verge]

I don't think it's the power source, I think it's mentioned that it's used as a stabilizer.

[lilac island]

Then we're back to square one

[subtle verge]

It's in one of Stokes audio logs, I think.

[tall anchor]

Well, there's gotta be something that's giving literal terawatts of power

[lilac island]

if it's used as a stabiliser then why would it give the floaters the property to teleport?

i think there's more at play with this mineral then just a stabiliser

[subtle verge]

I'm not sure. Remember, in B1 we don't use the MWP itself, we throw it in to a device that, I assume, is used to amplify it's power.

[lilac island]

that is true

[subtle verge]

So we're not feeding off the MWP itself entirely, we're amplifying it's properties with that giant room.

[lilac island]

but the MWP itself was able to send us to Red Alpha

[subtle verge]

For a very brief moment, though.

[lilac island]

Correct

So how?

[eternal talon]

allens.

[lilac island]

XD

[eternal talon]

well i mean... ^

[tall anchor]

Ah

[lilac island]

I will say

Not yet fully proven

[eternal talon]

then esplain

what on earth is that sandstone carving

[lilac island]

No idea

[tall anchor]

https://chandra.harvard.edu/resources/faq/black_hole/bhole-4.html

[lilac island]

not enough information to base it off of

[tall anchor]

So, in order to hold a wormhole open long enough for space travel, an incredible amount of negative energy would be required. For example, it has been estimated that to create a wormhole with a diameter one millionth the size of a proton, wormhole engineers would need negative energy equivalent in magnitude to the energy generated by ten billion suns in one year. As you can see, this would be a very expensive way to travel!

To create wormholes you'd need shedloads of power to create the negative energy to keep it stable

[lilac island]

These crystals are also the power source

Has to be

[eternal talon]

they grow naturally on red alpha

[tall anchor]

But if Stokes says Cretasium 77a is used as a stabilizer, where's the energy coming from?

[lilac island]

That's the reason they deteriorate fast, due to the energy they produce it deteriorates the mineral itself

all we need is an electrical current

like quartz

[lilac island]

Possibly

i mean there's a clear tether

[eternal talon]

no, it's factual.

[lilac island]

evidence?

[tall anchor]

We’re looking into the possibility that the behavior of the artifacts may be inhibited or regulated in some manner by Cretasium 77A

[eternal talon]

^

^

evidence.

ity bity crystals.

[lilac island]

Nothing else states it

[eternal talon]

other than your eyes?

[lilac island]

that could be anything

[eternal talon]

oh come on

don't even

[lilac island]

i shall

Find me a log that states as such and i'll believe you

other then that

[eternal talon]

who needs a log WHEN ITS IN GAME DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES

[lilac island]

it's one piece of evidence that doesn't point anywhere

[tall anchor]

They are on red alpha, I wouldn't say they can be known to be natrual

[lilac island]

other then black crystal go brr

[eternal talon]

you don't need a log to tell you where your HSU is in your mission

[lilac island]

Look my friend

can i call you friend?

[tall anchor]

Anyway, if the floaters are all thats left of """intellegent life""" I highly doubt someone's growing these crystals

and if they're all over red alpha, that means they clearly grow somehow

[lilac island]

I will say that is the case, i'm just speculating that it could act like quartz

[eternal talon]

have you heard of stalagmites? rock that grows naturally.

it's nowhere out of the realms of possiblity

[tall anchor]

Yeah, I'm in agreement with you

[lilac island]

I will submit that clearly the mineral is connected to the planet

[tall anchor]

I'm just trying to think of how it grows

[eternal talon]

you wanted quartz? ^

[lilac island]

however any other way is pure speculation

[lilac island]

That's the right way to think of it

[eternal talon]

i spent like 4 hours today combing the desert for info

[tall anchor]

I wonder if it is natrual to that planet, but that's hard to point in either direction

[lilac island]

We won't know until more evidence is given

[tall anchor]

Maybe it's the atmosphere?

[eternal talon]

is there evidence in logs for that carved sandstone circle?

no, but it's clearly there.

[subtle verge]

I don't fully understand geology too well, but it would seem very hard-pressed to find crystal naturally forming without some kind of incredible amount of pressure, right?

[lilac island]

Correct, look at diamonds

[tall anchor]

Not neccecarily, heat can work as a factor as well.

[subtle verge]

That is true.

[lilac island]

That too

[tall anchor]

For example, ammonium flurosilicate grows near fumaroles

[eternal talon]

weren't we literally talking about pressure earlier today?

with like airplanes, and stuff?

[subtle verge]

Atmospheric pressure, yes.

[eternal talon]

with gargantua being deep underground and us being teleported ontop a mountain and the felt pressure being the same?

[tall anchor]

Do we know if the felt pressure is the same?

[lilac island]

we do not

[eternal talon]

@analog frigate

[subtle verge]

The pressure difference from being 1.5km under the surface to being on earth's surface is fractional at best.

[tall anchor]

Like, is that stated somewhere because that would be very interesting

[subtle verge]

Using real-world standard.

[lilac island]

we can compare it similarly to earth's gravity because nothing changes when we switch planets

that's about it

[tall anchor]

Atmosphere is similar enough that you'd be fine for a while but not over 6 hours

Why six hours?

[subtle verge]

So long as there is fresh air being pumped in to a mineshaft, the atmospheric pressure is fractional.

[eternal talon]

something in the air @tall anchor

we don't know what

[tall anchor]

cellular replication usually goes around 12 hours for skin/epi cells, is it affecting your skin?

[subtle verge]

Multitude of things. It could be what Dr Durant said: a potential unknown anomaly in the air, very little foliage, etc.

[lilac island]

This links back to our plant

[eternal talon]

very little foliage?

there is bramble everywhere

[tall anchor]

Foliage doesn't mean much really

[lilac island]

The plant that the doctor put into Red Alpha

it looked as if it died years ago

[subtle verge]

But foliage does a lot for an environment in terms of providing shade, like trees, etc.

[lilac island]

what if it's the same thing that attacks us

[eternal talon]

^

[subtle verge]

Blocking wind, stuff like that.

[lilac island]

That is true

[subtle verge]

That's looking at it from my outdoorsman eyes.

[tall anchor]

So if the plant and us are dying on that planet, would it be something that interferes with DNA? I'm sure there's something that could effect nitrogenious bases

[eternal talon]

these plants probably won't do much for blocking wind, they are thin and sticky

[lilac island]

Do plants have DNA?

[tall anchor]

Lack of nitrogen would kill the plant?

[eternal talon]

and have you SEEN those dust storms?

[subtle verge]

I don't think the plants died from anything like that.

[tall anchor]

Earth plants have DNA

[subtle verge]

We tethered to Red Alpha to send the plants over

We then cut that tether

[eternal talon]

^dust storms

[subtle verge]

One week later on earth, we reopen that tether.

And we go through, all of a sudden those plants died months or years ago.

[tall anchor]

Yeah, but the cells would* kill themselves if their DNA got screwey

[lilac island]

We get it, doesn't mean what you say is true

[lilac island]

Denaturisation

[subtle verge]

Part of me believes it has to do with the time dilation.

[lilac island]

and it would be their enzymes

[eternal talon]

are you saying, that it may not be true that those are dust storms?

really?

[lilac island]

Did i say that?

[eternal talon]

you said it may not be true

what do you think that means

basic grammar

[tall anchor]

I think he's saying the dust storms wouldn't affect the plants because they were encapsulated

[lilac island]

that your theory may not be true

[eternal talon]

it's not a theory

[lilac island]

they may be dust storms

[eternal talon]

there is a picture

[lilac island]

My Friend

[eternal talon]

a photo is a thousand words

[lilac island]

I Am Not Talking About The Dust Storms

[eternal talon]

so keep talking.

[lilac island]

The Theory of Said Dust Storms Having An Effect Is Theory

things can be implied

doesn't mean it's true

[tall anchor]

aaaanyway to get back on track, a lack of nitrogen would kill all earth based living things by the drop of a hat

[eternal talon]

so they would just have no impact on flora and fauna? it's heavily implied by their existance

[lilac island]

That is true

without nitrogen we have no life

[eternal talon]

the atmo is like 70% nitrogen, right?

[lilac island]

so nitrogen is present

[eternal talon]

on earth

[tall anchor]

No, there are substitutes for nitrogen

[lilac island]

That is correct

alright, lets hear it

[tall anchor]

I'm saying that all earth based life would be fucked, including the water in the plants bowls

[tall anchor]

are you asking me?

[lilac island]

I was wondering if there was a substitute on the planet we could think of

[tall anchor]

Ammonia probably

[lilac island]

out of curiosity

[eternal talon]

but we can breathe just fine

[lilac island]

Oxygen would be the cause of that

[eternal talon]

yeah but isn't ammonia deadly to humans?

[tall anchor]

Ammonia based life would have to be below freezing too

-77c?

[lilac island]

If broken down within the human system, Yes

[eternal talon]

given it's a desert, i doubt it's the case.

[lilac island]

As a gas, no

[tall anchor]

There's snow in c1 right?

or, snow based stuff

[eternal talon]

there is what?

pics

sauce

me needs to see this

[lilac island]

No

it's night

[tall anchor]

I vaguely remember you get pulled picking up the first data cube into a mountainous environment?

[lilac island]

in a rocky environment

[eternal talon]

no, all 3 are like in caves or somethin

[tall anchor]

Oh, my bad then

[lilac island]

No problem

[eternal talon]

it's the same place for all 3 aswell

[subtle verge]

I think it's rain, actually.

Liquid of some sort.

[lilac island]

I would like to say

[subtle verge]

I don't know if it's H20, but it's a liquid of some sort.

[eternal talon]

i would notice if it was rain. pics

[lilac island]

During the night of deserts they can become to the point of having ice on your face if you're wearing a Shamag

[tall anchor]

Anyway, lack of nitrogen was a bit of a spilfoil hat, the other stuff compounded on would have killed us in the world for sure

https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/94658/life-without-nitrogen

[lilac island]

and we are wearing gasmasks

[subtle verge]

to the right of the sight. It's hard to get a pic of it.

[lilac island]

meaning that the ammonia would of been filtered out right?

[tall anchor]

I was reading this the other day while I was writing a short story for homework

[subtle verge]

But R6C1 Main by Fireblade is the video.

[eternal talon]

i genuinely don't see what you are talking about

[tall anchor]

depends on the quality of gasmask & the size of the particulate

[lilac island]

Punk?

[subtle verge]

That's some kind of droplet moving on the Y axis.

[eternal talon]

i dunno what that is, but it isn't rain.

[subtle verge]

Watch the video: GTFO R6C1 Main by Fireblade.

[lilac island]

if that's rain then looks like we're dealing with something close to earths atmosphere

[subtle verge]

What's up? Talking about hazmat?

[lilac island]

Yep

[subtle verge]

Prisoners wear a Class B mask with Class D apparel.

[lilac island]

Can the masks our characters are wearing able to filter out poisonous gasses?

[subtle verge]

Negative, Class B can filter out fine dust particulates.

Poisonous gasses and other things of that matter, you'd want a Class A mask or SCBA gear.

[lilac island]

so we would be dead if it wasn't like earth

am i right?

[subtle verge]

More than likely, or suffer extreme lung damage.

[lilac island]

So we have to conclude here that it's the same as earth

which means that is more then likely rain and that this may just be a biome

so it isn't conclusive

[subtle verge]

Now, that being said, there are some masks in the apparel section that look like they have oxygen canisters

But generally, those kinds of masks would need to be fitted and measured to the dimensions of your face.

[lilac island]

Alright

[subtle verge]

And the prisoners use surplus gear leftover by Kovac.

[lilac island]

So do we think it's possible?

[subtle verge]

It's hard to say, really.

Generally, if there's breathable oxygen, that means that Hydrogen is abundant enough to create rain in an environment.

[lilac island]

which we have a maybe on due to the screenshot

to be fair that could be anything

[subtle verge]

If you pull up the video, you can see it moving downwards on the Y axis.

[lilac island]

for the sake of theory lets say it does

and it is rain

[subtle verge]

https://youtu.be/CKoaXCHHQ78?t=1707

At the timestamp.

[lilac island]

it's nearly 7AM and i'm knackered

i'm doing it for the sake of i'm interested, not calling your evidence into question

[subtle verge]

Just being thorough!

[lilac island]

And that is rain

and Ash

We have ash particles in the area

[subtle verge]

On that note, though, it is becoming 1am and I think it's time for sleep.

[tall anchor]

I want to find out what the extra material is in the atmosphere that’s danagerous to humans

[tall anchor]

Probably the burnt human bodies

[subtle verge]

?

[lilac island]

that looks more like from a volcano

[subtle verge]

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, Lilli.

[tall anchor]

There’s that log about how they were burning bodies with the virus outside of gargantua

[subtle verge]

Oh, that was years and years before current events.

[tall anchor]

yeah i realised that like two seconds after i posted it

[subtle verge]

Plus, the video is on Red Alpha, not Garganta.

[lilac island]

I've got a theory

I don't think our alien friend would not like it

[subtle verge]

Swing it, I'mma go brush my teeth and get ready for bed.

[lilac island]

Looking at the biological reports of the sleepers they clearly show loss of pigmintation

along with them showing clear signs of albinoism

[tall anchor]

I saw the start screen on the youtube video and immediately thought you were talking about gargantua’s rain as well

[lilac island]

so the sleepers themselves would react to UV rays if shined on them

possibly burning them

Taking that into account why do the floaters not show the same signs if these were a different lifeform?

I personally think it could be biomass collected by the parasites to act as hunters/scouts to use as more biomass

[tall anchor]

Because they’re in the sun the whole time?

[lilac island]

Possibly

[tall anchor]

Also they’re a completely different organism, there’s a lot extra going on

[lilac island]

True

[tall anchor]

oh i just understood what you meant

[lilac island]

it is loose i admit that

but the biomass would not be affected by the albino problem

it would be immune to daylight

[tall anchor]

I’m under the assumption that the virus/parasite directly affects different species differently, and creates versions under what it reacts to.

[lilac island]

it even shields the parasite from the light and uses it to shoot at us

But it seems to be making mutations from human bodies and creating "Variants" of itself

seen from the giant, sleeper, scout and now our schaffer friend

[subtle verge]

I actually do have a theory on why we seem to only drop during heavy rains. 👀

[lilac island]

it's shown to use biomass to create certain creatures like the spitters

cause i refuse to believe that's human

again, i do not have any solid theories

[tall anchor]

Like, the virus reacting to someone with a uterus would make a shooter, because of the presence of literally hundreds of thousands of eggs, while we have other variants of shooters that are all human females but modified in some way that would make sense - a hybrid would be someone who might have a higher level of testosterone in their body than someone else.

[tall anchor]

It could be an embryo of of some sort

[tall anchor]

owowowo please do share

[lilac island]

so the spitters are fetuses?

[tall anchor]

We have neonate hsu’s, it wouldn’t be much of a stretch

[lilac island]

that makes me laugh

[tall anchor]

I mean, neonates appear to be premature babies

[subtle verge]

Think about it: rain defuses sound to a degree. 👀

We drop in to a pit that reverberates and possibly even amplifies certain sounds. Perhaps WRDN is taking extra precautions in the event that it could be discovered from an off-shore source and be investigated.

[tall anchor]

ooh

[subtle verge]

It's trying to stay secretive.

[tall anchor]

It’s also preventing alerting the sleepers on our way in too

[subtle verge]

Perhaps it is.

[lilac island]

On the surface level sure

but the further down we go the less effective it becomes

[tall anchor]

Well, error alarms were mostly on lower levels

especially in earlier rundowns

[subtle verge]

Yeah, natural winds underground would blow the majority of rain away from hitting the bottom of the pit.

[lilac island]

so it is plausible

good thinking

it also works into them using the grounds vibrations

if the vibrations are everywhere they wouldn't bat an eye to more vibrations barrelling down into the ground

same as when all you hear is noise, a gunshot won't alert you the first time, second time you realise what's going on

[subtle verge]

Or, if you're like me an live in Chiraq, you get used to it after a while.

[tall anchor]

👀

[lilac island]

Yep

[subtle verge]

The natural sounds of Chicago: honking cars and gang bangers.

A musical.

[lilac island]

Ah Yes

If it were only the 80's

[subtle verge]

<@&408548765599793173>

[tall anchor]

Scam

[lilac island]

yep

[subtle verge]

Please and thank you.

[lilac island]

Got his ID

Where can i get this guy to get banned?

[tall anchor]

i got excited too for a second :<

[lilac island]

XD

Poor Lilliana

[tall anchor]

don’t worry about it, they’ve got it

[subtle verge]

The mods will take care of it.

THANK YOU MODS LOVE YOU

[lilac island]

i meant off discord

we have proof of a scammer

[tall anchor]

right click on their name -> report

[lilac island]

damn

[tall anchor]

Yeah they’re pretty quick

[lilac island]

if i knew to do that instead i would of had him

either way

i kinda want to look into Hackett and Dauda's backstory

don't know the american's name

[tall anchor]

Woods

[lilac island]

Of Course it is

[subtle verge]

They all have voice logs!

[tall anchor]

^ they’re amazing voice logs

[subtle verge]

Dauda was a KSO scientist.

[lilac island]

Hackett is my favourite character because he's irish and funny

[subtle verge]

You would get along with Ravenna, then.

[tall anchor]

I just want his santonian-themed hoodie

[lilac island]

"I don't know why i look at this thing"

[subtle verge]

She is the proclaimed wife of Hackett, and she's an admin in the Discord.

[lilac island]

"Ping, Ping and Bloody Ping"

[subtle verge]

And she loves us here in this channel.

[tall anchor]

yeah because she’s a massive nerd too

which is great

[subtle verge]

200%

[lilac island]

Well then, did i miss the wedding? xD

[subtle verge]

Lmao. Long before I joined the lore channel.

[lilac island]

Well then

[tall anchor]

Aye, it was back in the day of 2018

Feels like almost yesterday sometimes

[lilac island]

if it wasn't for nerds we wouldn't have the things we have now

[tall anchor]

I was there for her first wedding, I believe i missed the one with hackett

[lilac island]

starting to sound like a questionable character

HOLD ON!

[tall anchor]

Hey, she got married to Elon Musk, aka The Warden

[lilac island]

It was covered in dust or maybe a powder or ashes. From a… from a fire… Yes… a fire.

[subtle verge]

I can't imagine what life is like being married to a DI.

[tall anchor]

GTFO discord lore is meta in all hell

[lilac island]

Ashes

What did we see on Red Alpha?

C2

Ash along with rain

it was falling from the sky

[subtle verge]

Daraxus and I theorize that it came from a pile of burnt bodies in Garganta. Schaeffer has been on the run since R4, I think.

[lilac island]

possibly could also link to earth

[subtle verge]

Maybe it was R5. I forget.

[tall anchor]

correct?

[lilac island]

but it came from ashes

it could be from a pile of burnt bodies or it could of came from the rift from the MWP

That's a loose theory again

[subtle verge]

Anything is a possibility in the world of GTFO.

[tall anchor]

why would the MWP create ash?

[lilac island]

It doesn't

Red Alpha does

[tall anchor]

i’m confused lol

[lilac island]

Red Alpha during C2 had Ash coming down from the sky and Rain

[subtle verge]

Also, just for clarity sake: Red Alpha is a coined name for the place we go to. Red Alpha is technically the catastrophic failure of a Mars mission... canonically.

But that's aside the main point for now.

[lilac island]

yep

[tall anchor]

we really need a better name for it lol

[lilac island]

So this is something the community came up with

[subtle verge]

I'm pretty sure we'll get a name in 6.5

[lilac island]

but i think it's safe to assume it came from 1 of two places

[tall anchor]

is 6.5 speculation or will happen?

[lilac island]

either a pile of burned bodies

[subtle verge]

Usually extensions have a buttload more lore than main.

[lilac island]

or from the place we call Red Alpha

[subtle verge]

They're working on more patches according to devblog. I'd assume we'll get an extension before 7.0

[lilac island]

sounds fun

[tall anchor]

ooh yeah that makes perfect sense

[subtle verge]

I'd have to contemplate that one a bit, really. It's implied that sleeper-like anomalies have been around for a little longer than the initial invasion.

When SMC cracked 'The Egg'

[lilac island]

its a theory

but he mentioned the fires

and you said about them burning bodies years and years ago

[tall anchor]

Yeah, that one stumps me tbh

[tall anchor]

Yeah, they got rid of a bunch of dead bodies.

[subtle verge]

I think more bodies were burned as time went on with NAM-V causing a massive issue within Garganta.

[tall anchor]

State of Truth AM baybeeeee

[lilac island]

So i think it's either or

[subtle verge]

At least, I'd like to think that.

[tall anchor]

(speaking of, i should design a state of truth logo for funsies)

[lilac island]

although i would like to know one thing

and this is based off of the MWP

[tall anchor]

Probably too many dead bodies to deal with properly

[subtle verge]

"Caller, welcome to the State of Truth AM. Whatcha got for us?"

[lilac island]

can it still hold a quantum tether without the stabiliser?

[tall anchor]

I don’t think so, A1 kinda proves that

[subtle verge]

Mmm... I'm not really sure.

Perhaps for a very brief moment.

Like A1, yeah.

I don't know if it can go for much longer than that.

[tall anchor]

Like, we touch the artifacts, get teleported for a few minutes, then we get pulled back

[subtle verge]

Also, it's implied that we have more than one MWP.

Because we somehow get another one.

Don't ask me how.

[lilac island]

I have a theory

about the teleporting meatballs

[tall anchor]

we get another one?

[subtle verge]

We left the first one in B1.

[lilac island]

maybe

[subtle verge]

We somehow get another in D1.

[lilac island]

well damn

[tall anchor]

is it dropped down with you?

[subtle verge]

I don't know if that's oversight or if it's canon.

[lilac island]

it is implied we have other prisoner teams working

maybe they got another MWP

[subtle verge]

... Maaaaybe? It's been a minute since I last booted the game up.

[lilac island]

don't worry

i'll get there eventually with my friend

[subtle verge]

Hell yeah.

[lilac island]

then i can confirm

but one thing i want to think about is how the fuck do they teleport?

[subtle verge]

I'm booting it up now, I'm deadset on this curiosity train.

[lilac island]

it really stumps me

No punk

go sleep

[subtle verge]

C H O O - C H O O

[tall anchor]

chugga chugga chugga

[lilac island]

i shovelled the coal and it's started whirring

shit xD

[tall anchor]

the prisoners?

[lilac island]

The Floaters

[tall anchor]

I figure that the black crystal artifacts have some kind of quantum property

[lilac island]

I want to give our good friend here a chance

one second

[tall anchor]

They probably have a lot of Creatium 77a built into their body assuming they come from red alpha

[subtle verge]

Surpriiiiise

[lilac island]

Lets say he's right

that Creatium 77A is natural

[tall anchor]

That’s too big of a plot hole for the devs to ignore

[lilac island]

XD

[tall anchor]

Well, the crystals aren’t C77a

[subtle verge]

Uploading some candid shots for curiosity sake.

[lilac island]

i did this...

I'm sorry xD

[tall anchor]

C77a is just used to help stabilise the crystals

[subtle verge]

There, now we have some risque pictures of the MWP.

[lilac island]

look at the crystals

they're black, not orange

why?

[tall anchor]

They’re always black?

[subtle verge]

Always have been black.

Or a very dirty black.

[lilac island]

but in A1 it's orange

[subtle verge]

Like muddy river at night kind of black.

[tall anchor]

sun colour or smth?

I promise you they’re black in every mission

[lilac island]

Then why are they orange in A1?

Or do they change colour in sunlight?

[tall anchor]

On red alpha?

[subtle verge]

I think I know what you're talking about; a very gentle orange outline in the MWP, right?

[tall anchor]

They’re in the glow of the sunset

[lilac island]

Huh

I'll check it when i wake up

[subtle verge]

Sounds good lmao.

[lilac island]

but i think somethings to look at are this

[subtle verge]

Alright, off to bed for me it is. Good night, friends!

[lilac island]

How exactly does the Tether work

[tall anchor]

I should probably do the same lmaooo

[lilac island]

i do believe it to be correct as its implied

2. We need to learn more about the sleepers

[subtle verge]

https://www.livescience.com/28550-how-quantum-entanglement-works-infographic.html

It's partially a question of entanglement.

[lilac island]

NAM-V i believe is self explanitory

it's just those 2 and that should explain everything i need to know

Story elements themselves... i don't think there's much of a story, just world building and i love that

anyway, good niiiiiiight

[subtle verge]

Niiiiiiight

[analog frigate]

<@&408548765599793173>

also good morning

[analog frigate]

damn

<@&408548765599793173>

[quick grove]

Uh oh

[quick grove]

Sorry

[analog frigate]

nah

[quick grove]

Forgive me

[analog frigate]

it was because two scams happened at the same time

[quick grove]

[quick grove]

Two scans?

[analog frigate]

the free discord nitro ones

2 were sent at the same time

[quick grove]

Oh

Makes sense

I thought you meant scans so i got mad confused

Miss read i have

An idiot i am

[eternal talon]

not orange

it's just lighting

they do look pretty cool though in this lighting, the light refracting through this crystal

also good morning

@analog frigate did you update the intro to gtfo lore with the plant life and storms on red alpha?

[analog frigate]

not yet

[tall anchor]

Is there anything written about the biosphere of red alpha?

I’ve been doing a huge amount of reading lately on that subject (Worldbuilding for a short story) and I’d like to throw something together

[subtle verge]

https://youtu.be/BAIh5IccmG4

[tall anchor]

LMAOOOOO

[subtle verge]

"So much sand, you really wouldn't believe it."

[lilac island]

Sounds like Afghanistan

[tall anchor]

In all seriousness though, has a breakdown on the planet been made?

[subtle verge]

Negative. We only really know what we've seen thus far.

[finite vine]

not really anything comprehensive

[tall anchor]

interesting

[subtle verge]

If you want to be the forerunner for it, be our guest. Lmao.

[tall anchor]

I didn't need to do homework anyway

[finite vine]

one thing I noticed, is that there has to be a lot of dust in the atmosphere, because the sunsets are blue. just like on mars. so a lot of mie scattering is occurring because of the dust.

[subtle verge]

<@&408548765599793173>

WE GOT A LIVE ONE, HERE

Bless. ❤️

[finite vine]

actually nvm, I was assuming that the d1 boss fight was taking place at dusk, but the moon/ sun / whatever is providing the blue light looks too high for that to be the case

[tall anchor]

Show a screenshot?

[tall anchor]

That's too big for it to be a sun, so it's probably a moon reflecting light into the atmosphere

[analog frigate]

it's a moon for sure

[tall anchor]

The blue is probably coming from either the moon reflecting more blue light, or the atmospheric composition

Could be krypton, xenon, or mercury vapor (which would explain what they don't want to breathe in)

((based off of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-discharge_lamp))

esp. considering they don’t have the proper equipment

[agile plinth]

definitely not mercury vapour

i think that it would be noticeable that people are getting heavy metal poisoning

and that one person who durant told to have a mask on would most likely be dead

[tall anchor]

he kinda did die anyway though lmaooo

[tall anchor]

But where does the water go? (sorry for ping)

There has to be a large amount of vapor of some sort due to the fog in D1, as well as cloud formation

[subtle verge]

I'm not entirely sure, really. I don't even know if it is water. I just know that it's falling from sky to ground outside of that cave area.

[worthy flower]

Afghanisand

[analog frigate]

this entire topic has too many unknowns

we don't know where we are on the planet, how good the tech they used to detect things is, the star system it's in

there just isn't enough to figure out if there is water

for an example, we could be in the planet's version of sahara

and if we move somewhere else there are some rainforests or something

[lilac island]

Yes

[lilac island]

That is correct too

though we can infer a few things from how it acts within the game i believe

[analog frigate]

not much

[lilac island]

best we've got

[analog frigate]

<@&408548765599793173>

[tall anchor]

Yea, I'm not excluding that possibility that the rest of the planet could have water

[tall anchor]

Any thoughts on anything I've missed / overlooked with my theorycrafting?

[quick grove]

Mmmm acrobat pdf

[quick grove]

What about them rock carvings that lostty frostty found

[maiden crystal]

there's rock carvings in the ??? level?

[solar nova]

Stop calling it red alpha ffs.

[maiden crystal]

why is everyone calling it red alpha, that's just a log in-game describing a confirmed mars mission right?

[solar nova]

^

Triggers me more than calling the big birther the pMother.

[maiden crystal]

lol

As a mystery area, i have to say it is currently open to interpretation, so it really could well be related and somehow it is Mars, too early in the writing to let it trigger you 😛

But i do actually agree with you, i just scrolled up before you said that and was like "why are they all referring to it as basically Mars" lol

[tall anchor]

I'm using the term red alpha because everyone else is calling it red alpha

[solar nova]

Well stop

"Everyone else" is dumb af.

[worthy flower]

im everyone else.

[maiden crystal]

the wiki just calls it Alpha or ??? that's what i call it because that's it's name atm apparently

[tall anchor]

Alpha 1 and 2 are sites on ???

[raven moss]

Petition to call it Geoff

[solar nova]

In the desert, yeah.

[worthy flower]

lets just call it large sodium rock.

[maiden crystal]

I want to call it sandy funtown happy gogo deathhouse 5 modern warfare

[quick grove]

Oi i will call it what i want oky

[maiden crystal]

I have to say though, because I'm sure the devs look at this for ideas, if you're one of the writers and reading this, thank you for giving me a lore/world to dig into that is right up my alley at a time when so many games don't offer this

[solar nova]

A compelling af non-linear story.

[tall anchor]

I'm enjoying the fact it's reality based sci-fi that doesn't give you the answers

[maiden crystal]

yeah man i don't read books, but I've spent hours reading the wiki pages

[tall anchor]

mood

[quick grove]

Lol

[maiden crystal]

yes the mystery is good, it may actually have a negative impact if they canonically explain more

[tall anchor]

they've avoided explaining more untill peices have been put together

At least, that's my observation

[solar nova]

We are very gradually learning various plot points.

[maiden crystal]

They told me that the game is actually all about me and how handsome i am and how much i love sand and darkness

well, that's just my observation

[quick grove]

Yes for now red alpha remains a mysterious place

[maiden crystal]

*sandy funtown happy gogo deathhouse 5 modern warfare

[quick grove]

?

[solar nova]

To think we spent a rundown with absolutely nothing besides our objectives, and then the next rundown we had a single email.

[raven moss]

It’s the planet’s name

[maiden crystal]

yup i think rundown 5 amped it up from like a couple of emails a rundown to 30+ pieces of info in logs etc

[solar nova]

No?

[raven moss]

Pretty sure it is.

[maiden crystal]

yes it is ask my dad

[solar nova]

Red Alpha is a Mars mission.

There is no name for the place we go, only the particular research stations (alpha 1 and alpha 2).

[tall anchor]

sandy funtown happy gogo deathhouse 5 modern warfare is the new name of the planet then?

[raven moss]

My dad works for Nintendo and he says that the name is sandy funtown happy gogo deathhouse 5 modern warfare

[solar nova]

^

[maiden crystal]

Yes confirmed

by my dad

[solar nova]

I'm convinced.

I've seen the light.

[tall anchor]

Seriously though, I wish they had given us a code name in d1 of the place, that would have been cool

[quick grove]

Nah planet doesn't have a name but most of the community has settled with red alpha

[tall anchor]

then it wouldn't be confusing

[maiden crystal]

@tall anchor actually mentioned it, according to the wiki, in all seriousness, the areas we go to are Alpha 1 & Alpha 2, and the name of the area those are inside of (the planet) currently, officially, according to the wiki if that's managed by devs, is "???"

[tall anchor]

The wiki is mostly made by the community

[maiden crystal]

But we shouldn't take it all too seriously because again, this stuff is still being written and hasn't been explained and may never be explained the writers might not even have a name or place for it yet

but my dad says

sandy funtown happy gogo deathhouse 5 modern warfare

[tall anchor]

The only dev who has actually done something on the wiki is D0c, and he bans people

[quick grove]

We don't go inside the planet when we teleport

The complex is underground and thats on earth

[maiden crystal]

it might even be just earth at a different time i think there's a log that says it could possibly be time travel

[quick grove]

Alpha one and alpha two are the bases of the people who went to red alpha

[quick grove]

No there isn't a log that states this

Never has

[tall anchor]

That's refering to quantum entanglement theory

[eternal talon]

not this time travel nonsense...

[quick grove]

And if the writers went with time travel its lazy writing

[tall anchor]

Basically the quantum tether could connect us to Spikey Desert World 2 at different points in time

[maiden crystal]

oh i get you

[quick grove]

I just died a little when i saw time travel

[maiden crystal]

you want to be my new dad?

all of you

[quick grove]

No

[maiden crystal]

I need guidance

[worthy flower]

maybe

[maiden crystal]

thanks Clay

[eternal talon]

step 1: don't be a dick. @maiden crystal

[quick grove]

I kick out kids who talks about time travel

I've had to much of that

[eternal talon]

step 2: don't be a cannibal

[tall anchor]

But yeah, it's not time travel, you're just connecting to the other planet at a later point in time theoretically

[quick grove]

Step 3 don't talk about time travel

[worthy flower]

shaeffers audio logs are recorded in the future and sent to the past via the MWP

[tall anchor]

Either that or something merc'd the plant

[quick grove]

you wanna die

Talking about time

[worthy flower]

its about time.

[quick grove]

You are suggesting time travel my boy

Don't

[eternal talon]

and now for today's sponsor

[tall anchor]

my boy

checks pants

sorry no

[rancid zenith]

okke someone indulge me on RUNDOWN*5 cause I wasnt there for it and now I get vibes of travelling the clock in rundown 6 considering what you guys are writing

[eternal talon]

my MAN

[worthy flower]

is it lost tity frost tity?

[quick grove]

What?

[eternal talon]

what?

[tall anchor]

checks pants again

still no

[eternal talon]

my woMAN

[maiden crystal]

if you're travelling anywhere, even if you're not, technically you are travelling through time, so I'm still saying, Back to the sandy funtown happy gogo deathhouse 5 modern warfare 2 future 2 commence

[quick grove]

[eternal talon]

forward is easy. backwards is hard.

[maiden crystal]

prepare my time travel gloves boy

[quick grove]

No teleportation is instantaneously

[rancid zenith]

There had an aneurysm writing MB lads

[quick grove]

No need for time travel

[worthy flower]

my ears have burst like an overcooked hotdog

[quick grove]

And you can't send communications from the past to the future

[maiden crystal]

even stepping off the teleport pad is travelling through time

[quick grove]

What rundown you playin man

[maiden crystal]

we have to reach 88 miles an hour or whatever it was that is what the crystals are for

[rancid zenith]

As in what have i missed in rundown 5, following up to this one

[worthy flower]

just read the logs on the wiki

[eternal talon]

back to red alpha

[worthy flower]

back to red alpha part two

[quick grove]

Dude just stop because your speaking nonsense right now

[rancid zenith]

nah fam to much letters

[maiden crystal]

There's a pretty good youtube vid by that Professor lad that covers the basics of the lore and another by him that updates info on the prisoners and key characters

[raven moss]

If I write a note, then mail it to someone, they will read it later, ergo I sent a communication from the past to the future.

[quick grove]

Just do a quick youtube search and you'll be up to date yes

[rancid zenith]

And here I am coming over to the lore channel to be sent back o youtube. Thanks!

[worthy flower]

instruction failed, accidentally watched 4 hours of souls lore.

[quick grove]

Okay you and cannibal are just trolling

[maiden crystal]

Merv, you seem tense, i believe some quality time travel at my wonderful timeshare in the beautiful sandy funtown happy gogo deathhouse 5 modern warfare could really benefit you

[tall anchor]

uuuh, not much. biomasses move, we had a weird high security cargo to crack open, and then at the very bottom we unlocked ||all of KDS Deep, which is a HSU storage structure, and an elevator to go deeper||

[maiden crystal]

5 acres of saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

lush sand

[worthy flower]

im going to send all the sand back through the mwp

[rancid zenith]

so we dug to bedrock and got ourselves more watery tombs, got it.

[eternal talon]

allens.

[worthy flower]

allens

[maiden crystal]

lostty is that the carving you found?

[eternal talon]

sandstone is carved spherical patterns

[tall anchor]

basically.
there was another mother and a tank or something? nothing major really apart from that

[rancid zenith]

wait.. is that...

[eternal talon]

directly behind where you teleport in in b1

[worthy flower]

red alpha stone henge

[rancid zenith]

Is that Lambda over there?

[tall anchor]

OH NO IS THAT THE MAYAN CALENDAR

[eternal talon]

part of the cliff face is carved out too

[tall anchor]

PLEASE GOD

[maiden crystal]

lol

i was going to say that it looked like that lil