gtfo-lore

[eternal talon]

think how mongols would throw black-death ridden corpses over walls during sieges.

[quick grove]

There will most likely be an end to all of this right

[eternal talon]

maybe, we don't know. that's up to the devs.

the complex is bloody massive.

[quick grove]

True

[eternal talon]

and we haven't even seen that much. we have tram networks, the sectors near the surface or at surface level, the deep down in/around the meteor, and all abouts.

[scenic yacht]

It's possible that the parasite isn't even intended to help the parasite. Maybe its just a natural virus developed alongside the virus that we aren't immune to. Think of smallpox killing the Natives

[quick grove]

There is another 500m to go down because they made it to 2km didn't they?

[eternal talon]

well we do know they are symbiotic.

[finite vine]

yea, thats were the egg is

and the inner

[eternal talon]

so by definition, they must help eachother.

[quick grove]

EGG?

[scenic yacht]

where does it say they are?

[quick grove]

There's a fucking EGG

[finite vine]

it is a mass shaped like an egg

[eternal talon]

i'm not sure where it says specifically.

[royal finch]

Oh boy

[finite vine]

I dont think it is a biological egg though.

[eternal talon]

it's just more a given. you'd have better luck asking daraxus

[quick grove]

[royal finch]

Woo, now we have an egg in the meteorite!

WHAT COULD GO WRONG

[eternal talon]

what's this about an egg?

[finite vine]

"The mass extends 2,215 (+/- 372m) meters from apex
to nadir. Width estimate is 1,247 meters (+/- 208m). As suspected, it is
largely made up of the newly discovered Cretasium 77a material, and
surrounded by a thin membrane of iridium."

[finite vine]

from log
WKRP-817-CIN.LOG

[quick grove]

Okay okay so we know the complex is 2km deep but how long is the complex in width

[royal finch]

Yes

[eternal talon]

big.

[finite vine]

its probably a lot wider near the top than the bottom

[eternal talon]

miles, would be a given.

[quick grove]

No

[eternal talon]

it's at minimum the size of the crater.

[quick grove]

Kilometers pla

Pls*

[eternal talon]

google size of the crater.

[finite vine]

no way, that would have to be absolutely huge

[quick grove]

And the carter is huge id assume

[eternal talon]

it is absoloutely huge.

but it's not very dense

it's got many branches, as you can see on the rundown screen

[quick grove]

Whats the craters name again

[finite vine]

chicxulub crater

[quick grove]

Where the complex is right

[finite vine]

now that I look at it, it is probably that large

[eternal talon]

9,800 square miles.

[finite vine]

yea

[finite vine]

actually nvm, that is still huge

[eternal talon]

16k km

[scenic yacht]

bro there is no way the complex is as big as the crater

[eternal talon]

it's not that thick. again

you said how WIDE

look at the map in the rundown screen

it's mostly very long branches

like roots.

[quick grove]

25,450 km²

[subtle verge]

Judging by what we see, Garganta is approximately 1.5-1.75km wide at top-side, and 2km deep.

[quick grove]

Its huge

The complex is massive

[eternal talon]

if anything, most of the facility itself would be under the land portion, but it is without doubt that it would extend through the underwater bits aswell.

[quick grove]

There is going to be no end to this

[eternal talon]

though i wouldn't get your hopes up for any underwater levels. it is still very, very deep underground.

[quick grove]

I don't think underwater levels would work tho

[eternal talon]

i said DONT get your hopes up.

[quick grove]

That's just an easy escape for the prisoners

[finite vine]

I mean depending on how deep they are diving at, they would run out of gas before they get to the surface. then they would be in the middle of the ocean if they make it to the top, if they dont bend or blow up their lungs.

[quick grove]

True

[quick grove]

Still an possibility of survival if the get to the top id assume

[eternal talon]

that's not how water pressure works...

[quick grove]

I know

I know

[finite vine]

yea if they dont get the bends or asphyxiate

[eternal talon]

you'd die from ascending too fast.

[scenic yacht]

There wouldn't be any water levels because the Campeche Bank (coast of yucatan) is only 200 meters deep. We're way past that lol

[eternal talon]

it takes DAYS.

[quick grove]

True

[scenic yacht]

its not a deep bank at all, comparatively

[quick grove]

How far away is the the complex from the core of the earth

[scenic yacht]

lol not even close

[eternal talon]

it's not that deep merv.

[quick grove]

Ah

[scenic yacht]

the core of the PLANET?!

[quick grove]

We're not that close to it

[scenic yacht]

the core is 2,900 kilometers deep

[eternal talon]

the bottom of the crater is only 20km down

[quick grove]

But we've gone 2km deep tho

[eternal talon]

so 22.

still nowhere near.

[quick grove]

Yeah fair enough

Im stupid i didn't read right

[scenic yacht]

whats weird is Schaefer keeps telling us to go deeper, he says go past 2 km or something as the Warden's grasp gets deeper

[eternal talon]

probably to wherever the meteor is.

[quick grove]

No go past 1.1km

[scenic yacht]

and if the Warden was BIOCOM, which has control of the whole facility

the complex cant go to the bottom of the crater then

or anywhere near it

[eternal talon]

well no, they cracked the meteor and it all went to hell

[quick grove]

Schaeffer wants the characters to go past 1.1km

[eternal talon]

place was overun in a month, and i'm shocked it took that long.

[finite vine]

we have been past 1.1 km

[eternal talon]

security forces must have been some badass mofos

[scenic yacht]

arent we way past 1.1km

[quick grove]

Yeah and then people typed in resist and nothing worked lol

[finite vine]

1.3

[quick grove]

That sounds more like and end game thing we as players would do

[finite vine]

nah resist was a password to a secret terminal in r5c3

[eternal talon]

so it probably only goes as deep as the top layer of the meteor when the miners hit it.

[finite vine]

it played an audio log

[quick grove]

And was the terminal found

[finite vine]

yea

[quick grove]

Whats the log

[finite vine]

its an audio log by schaeffer, I forgot what it was called

it was basically him ranting about the warden

[scenic yacht]

as he does

[quick grove]

Ah oky

So nothing special

Type in resist and something will happen Schaeffer said

[eternal talon]

what do you think it would be like to have a rundown going into the heart of the meteor?

[quick grove]

[quick grove]

It would be fucking crazy

[eternal talon]

finding the hive and god knows what alien tech

there'd be thousands of the things.

[quick grove]

We'd have to turn on the cooler thingy to keep temps bare able down there

As the logs said previously

[eternal talon]

given there are artifacts all over the facility, it must be a lot.

and yes, the artifacts are alien stuffs.

[quick grove]

I know

Imagine a crystal on earth having the ability for people to teleport

[eternal talon]

though it's impossible given the time frame, would be neat to see a live alien, or maybe even fight an infected one.

[quick grove]

I think its possible

We haven't been down that far yet

[scenic yacht]

cryochamber alien, baby

[eternal talon]

65 million years is a LONG time.

[quick grove]

True but who knows

[eternal talon]

even alien power cells or whatever they might have had left by the time they fled red alpha might have not lasted that long.

[quick grove]

Reproduction for 65mil years straight lol

[scenic yacht]

how about the devs do a "Prometheus" the aliens fuckin' hate us and want the virus to spread. The alien could be in a cryochamber too

[eternal talon]

given the fact.. that the parasite AND virus made it to earth on the meteor..

it's safe to say any aliens onboard would have long since died.

[finite vine]

yea dr. stokes mentioned that "they" might of used the matter wave projector as a propulsion system.

[finite vine]

yea that would be dope

[eternal talon]

well yeah, given the gravity of planets like saturn and jupiter that often throw off meteors,

the aliens probably deliberately opened a portal and yeeted the rock through directly at earth

[quick grove]

Maybe

[eternal talon]

there is no way any aliens would want the virus to spread.

given what happened to red alpha

[scenic yacht]

OR maybe the aliens had serious BEEF with the dinosaurs and meant for the meteor and the virus to kill them instead of us lol

[quick grove]

Thats also a good question how did the parasite get on the meteor

[eternal talon]

the fact that the meteor is on earth at all shows very clearly they were trying to escape.

[quick grove]

Aliens put them on there

[eternal talon]

probably the same way it got out of the complex.

one person was infected when they sealed it off or teleported in the aliens case and it was too late to stop it.

merv, there is no way aliens put them there on their escape pod basically.

red alpha is in ruins

you can'

can't even see any trace of the civilization anymore

it's all dust storms and dead air.

[scenic yacht]

WELL in Prometheus the virus they developed to kill us got out of hand, the meteor could really be a ship of sorts the aliens just crash landed onto Earth after the virus killed the crew

[eternal talon]

only think left is a couple bramble species and infected wildlife

[quick grove]

Oh wait so your saying that the aliens was infected

[eternal talon]

yeah

[scenic yacht]

could be an ancient civilization, as to why their planet is in ruins

[quick grove]

Oh

[eternal talon]

or at least one on the meteor and the rest got infected on the way.

[quick grove]

Makes sense

[eternal talon]

@scenic yacht good theory, but their homeworld is completely fucked.

red alpha is gone.

[quick grove]

So the hentai monsters(floaters) aren't alien?

[eternal talon]

they are.

but not the aliens that made the tech

think of it like infected birds.

[quick grove]

Oh

[eternal talon]

just native wildlife

[scenic yacht]

could be an ancient civilization

[quick grove]

Ah fair enough

[scenic yacht]

millions of years

[eternal talon]

and given the time frame (65million years), they've been eating eachother for a long time

[finite vine]

yea that's what I was about to say. I mean it could be possible if Red Alpha is not the aliens home world.

[quick grove]

Why don't they attack the sleepers?

[eternal talon]

so the civilization that was advanced is LONG dead

that, i don't know.

[scenic yacht]

yes, because the virus got loose

the universe has been going for a LONG time

[eternal talon]

the parasite and virus that was underground on earth certainly evolved differently,

given their sensitivity to light

[quick grove]

True

[scenic yacht]

possibly

[eternal talon]

and that they are still trying to hybernate, even after getting out of the rock.

[vivid yacht]

yeah its ATLEAST 2021 years old

[quick grove]

A dark place underground

[vivid yacht]

the universe i mean

[quick grove]

That explains there pale white skin

[quick grove]

Wait what now?

[eternal talon]

the ones on red alpha aren't sensitive to light

and don't hybernate to save resources, the floaters seem to constantly be hunting

[scenic yacht]

sleepers on Red ALpha?

[eternal talon]

given why they are already awake when we teleport in

[quick grove]

That wouldn't work

[eternal talon]

there are no sleepers on red alpha that we know of.

sleepers are infected humans

with the virus and parasite

[quick grove]

What you mean chief?

[scenic yacht]

who are "the ones" on red alpha

[quick grove]

Joe mama

[eternal talon]

the floaty bois, kraken, and any others we haven't seen yet.

[quick grove]

Jk

[quick grove]

Im joking btw

[scenic yacht]

how could sleepers be humans, when they found sleepers drilling into the meteor

[eternal talon]

they didn't.

they found the virus and the parasite.

[vivid yacht]

i was sayin unverse is atleast 2021 years old :/

[eternal talon]

probably from an infected alien that was hybernating

[vivid yacht]

:D

[quick grove]

No humans drilled into the site we as humans found the parasite,parasite thought mmmm nice new host and infected humans

[eternal talon]

mhm

[finite vine]

its actually kinda hard to tell

[eternal talon]

we woke it up when we cracked into the meteor

[quick grove]

This doesn't make any total sense what so ever

[quick grove]

Yes and then we got infected

[eternal talon]

or, we woke whatever it was infecting up.

[finite vine]

I dont think we know where sleepers came from yet. we dont know if they were already in the meteor when it was drilled into

[eternal talon]

then whatever was infected originally rotted and died from not hybernating, or could still be there in the hive,

and thus sleepers came about.

nonono.

[finite vine]

something came out of the meteor though

[quick grove]

So good question do the meteor like the actual rock exist in irl as well

[eternal talon]

sleepers ARE infected humans.

[scenic yacht]

theres a document that @analog frigate posts called something like the "Biology of Sleepers" in it it says the first sleepers were found in a cave in the meteor and released by miners by accident

[placid beacon]

nature of sleepers

[scenic yacht]

so how would the first sleepers be humans

[eternal talon]

someone link that pdf

[quick grove]

Sleepers are human man

[eternal talon]

could be refering to what was infected on the meteor under the earth

given the time frame, it might as well be considered the "earth strain" of the virus-parasite

[quick grove]

The parasite infected us as humans and thats how we turn into sleepers

[finite vine]

there is no way to determine if santonian employees found sleepers in caves.

unless its stated in a log, which it is not

so thats just speculation

[scenic yacht]

well the document doesn't claim it as speculation

[quick grove]

Docter daude said he experimented on people who already turned into sleepers no?

[finite vine]

well the document does not contain all factual information. some of it is unproven.

[scenic yacht]

ask @analog frigate about it is all I can say, he'd know where he got the info from

all I know is apparently there were sleepers already in the meteor

[quick grove]

Parasites

[finite vine]

unless there is a log I missed, then I don't see how he came to that conclusion

[eternal talon]

let me see if i can find that pdf...

[quick grove]

If there were sleepers on that meteor the day it hit the sleepers would have been dead

[finite vine]

not saying that sleepers were not already in the meteor before it was opened, im saying that we dont know.

[finite vine]

well there is mention of myans and stuff. it is possible that an earthquake opened up and people fell into it or something

[scenic yacht]

Found It! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HR8ij7DxmU8F-2H4QYqaEnoBQJ1qABHF4l5ml7JTuPI/edit

[finite vine]

lol

[scenic yacht]

go to "Ecology" second paragraph

[eternal talon]

Originally discovered when mining in the location of the Chicxulub crater,tucked away in an underground system that miners drilled into.

[finite vine]

yea, that is not proven

[eternal talon]

it doesn't say sleepers specifically, or the parasite-virus that makes them.

it could be either.

we'd need a source for where that doc got it either way.

[scenic yacht]

wut, its talking about sleepers

[quick grove]

The presence of the infected personnel beneath the Chicxulub crater, henceforth referred to as the Rundown complex, is a well documented, well known anomaly. It has been detected not only by the numerous expeditions that have been sent, but as a known hazard to operations and life beneath the surface of the Rundown complex.

[eternal talon]

Upon this gateway being opened, the sleepers began to attack and inhabit the complex

doesn't mean they were there already, just that the attacks started when it was opened.

[finite vine]

this suggests that sleepers came from inside the meteor, which we dont really have any evidence of this.

[finite vine]

seems like its implying that sleepers came from inside the meteor to me

[quick grove]

"infected personal"

[scenic yacht]

"Upon this gateway being opened, the sleepers began to attack and inhabit the complex." It literally says gateway

[quick grove]

Gateway meant as the door that kept them locked away

[scenic yacht]

yup

[finite vine]

kinda seems like conflicting information

[eternal talon]

it is.

sleeper is a vague term already, as it's not used for the red alpha creatures.

[quick grove]

So someone opened a door and let the personal that was already turned attack those who where in the complex

[eternal talon]

it's mirky.

[finite vine]

yea, gateway could also mean hole

[eternal talon]

whatever was infected, spread it to the miners. that's as complicated as it really should be.

[scenic yacht]

I don't know the source, but according to this and @analog frigate the sleepers were already present in the meteor

[quick grove]

The only hole here is the hell we get sent down into

[tall anchor]

So what have I missed?

[eternal talon]

not that one. that's basically an elevator that for some god aweful reason uses helicoptors instead of freight lifts.

[scenic yacht]

sleepers in the meteor already

[eternal talon]

^very debateable

[tall anchor]

Was that confirmed to be written?

[finite vine]

no, its not confirmed to be true

[eternal talon]

only in this one doccument we are arguing about,

[finite vine]

not by any logs at least

[tall anchor]

Because I was making the argument earlier that NAM-V’s potency depended on the inner egg being opened

[scenic yacht]

and this document is written by @analog frigate and friends so its pretty credible

[tall anchor]

that’s not what credible means

[eternal talon]

^

[scenic yacht]

well its a source id trust

[eternal talon]

if it's not written by 10 chambers it's not 100%.

[finite vine]

some of it is speculation, but it does make some good points based on real observations

[tall anchor]

Yeah, I like primary sources rather than secondary

[scenic yacht]

well sadly the primary sources are thin rn

[eternal talon]

what is this inner egg?

are you refering to the meteor itself, or something within it?

[finite vine]

something inside the meteor

[eternal talon]

interesting.

[finite vine]

dr. hammerstein mentions it

[scenic yacht]

The inner chambers described by Hammerstein is known as "The Inner"

[eternal talon]

from the virus-parasite, or the aliens?

[tall anchor]

Yeah, there’s a log somewhere about an egg / The Inner

[finite vine]

r6d2 i think

[quick grove]

Sometimes the point of the source isn't true

Gotta accept that fact

[scenic yacht]

"The Inner" is where Hammerstein finds all the Hammerstein artifacts including the data cubes

[eternal talon]

so alien.

interesting.

[quick grove]

The EGG is most likely the parasites id assume

[tall anchor]

My argument is that NAMV affected the miners in a reduced form as they dug into it, and then upon reaching The Inner, the full force of NAMV was released

[eternal talon]

possibly the ark or whatever you want to call it, where the aliens were to get away from the parasite and red alpha to make it to earth

would make sense if the hive or egg or whatever would be there, i suppose.

[tall anchor]

I mean, we don't know too much about The Inner, right?

We know it exists, but apart from that there's nothing?

[scenic yacht]

nope, just that it was built by REDACTED, as mentioned by Hammerstein

[eternal talon]

so aliens.

[scenic yacht]

so Hammerstein has a name for whatevery entities created the chambers

[eternal talon]

the redacted is kinda uneccessary here.

[tall anchor]

Hammerstein gave them a name, that's what's redacted

[eternal talon]

we know the floaties couldn't have done it.

[scenic yacht]

yea he didnt just redact the word "aliens" lol

[eternal talon]

they were still on red alpha.

[tall anchor]

I began writing up a theory that the floaters are just another species affected by NAM-V

[eternal talon]

@scenic yacht no, but maybe the species' true name or whatever. not just aliens.

it's basically a given @tall anchor, like the kraken.

[tall anchor]

Because they do similar attacks and the like

[eternal talon]

native to red alpha

[tall anchor]

I agree, I just wanted a proper framework on physiology

[eternal talon]

gotta remember though, just nam-v doesn't make the infected. just kills. it's the combination that makes sleepers or whatever you want to refer to the red alpha variants as.

[tall anchor]

For reference, this was my theorycrafting that started this conversation

[eternal talon]

virus makes host, parasite controls.

[scenic yacht]

"I believe we are looking at evidence of [redacted]. I am confident that the chambers were been constructed by [redacted]" NNT-453Y (Found in R6D2)

Project Insight has a name for whoever built the chambers

[eternal talon]

translation of some sort of alien hieroglyphics or something?

[tall anchor]

I'm confused, are you saying there's two entities at work?

[eternal talon]

there are. a virus and a parasite.

the virus got out and killed 90% of humans on earth. no sleepers.

virus and parasite in complex, sleepers.

[quick grove]

The chambers are most likely to keep the parasite and the virus at bay until we as humans idiotcly drilled into said chambers and inleased a horror upon earth

[eternal talon]

they are symbiotic organism.

that is confirmed.

[tall anchor]

Is that in a log I've missed?

[eternal talon]

i have no idea. i've not read the logs, but it's a given from what each does individually

been talking about this for the past couple days in here

with daraxus and others

[subtle verge]

I forget the name, but it's the log that talks about the parasite able to eat thru Class A Hazmat and infect people with NAM-V.

[eternal talon]

^that one

i think mentions a bit

[quick grove]

Yeah

[eternal talon]

which one was that? i forgot. it's been like 3 days.

[scenic yacht]

translation, or maybe he understood the language already because it was a HUMAN LANGUAGE! cough time travel theory cough**cough

[eternal talon]

oh god not this again

[quick grove]

Oh god

[wispy torrent]

gtfo lore

[tall anchor]

oh lord

[eternal talon]

@scenic yacht have you solved this yet?

[quick grove]

[scenic yacht]

why would I need to? Its a video game lol

thats the solution

[subtle verge]

D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.med_core/DLockwoodA074.flagged

Dean,

As requested, I have compiled the analysis of the affected subjects.

The subject's physiological changes do seem to be permanent. The ossification of the fibrous cartilage in both the spine and menisci appears to start at the brain stem and spreads rapidly, possibly due to the greater intercellular space offered. Attempts to slow the spread have so far been unsuccessful.

Affected subjects show signs of cognitive reduction within a few days, which accompanies the bent or stooped posture. They are able to continue menial work for several weeks, before succumbing to the pain and physical disability.

Opiates and derivatives ease the pain of the subjects, and we have been administering liberally as no other form of palliative care appears to work.

I have our entire cellular biology department working on this, but so far little progress has been made. Even after the parasite is removed, the viral load increases. We cannot stop the progress of the virus, and our only defense is SCBA Level A suits when in NAM-V hotspots. Even with this level of protection, the parasites are finding ways in.

Transition from initial diagnosis to cellular collapse takes approximately 5 weeks. We have yet to discover what happens thereafter. I will keep you posted.

We need more narcotics. Our stocks are running low.

Ron Sullivan```

[quick grove]

[eternal talon]

because your time travel theory has literally zero basis and is easily refuted by basic science.

[eternal talon]

ty o7

[scenic yacht]

basic science, its a sci-fi video game

[eternal talon]

this game is heavy on realism

[tall anchor]

oh

[scenic yacht]

lmao

HEAVILY on REALISM?!

wut

[eternal talon]

not like that.

realistic-ality?

[tall anchor]

Okay, so the parasite gives people the virus and that virus got out

[eternal talon]

shit that actually makes sense.

[subtle verge]

Please don't start this again. This is not a discussion that should be had in the lore channel.

[scenic yacht]

ok i wont start lol but TTT!

[tall anchor]

The parasite piggybacks on the virus's progress and takes control of motor functions

[eternal talon]

hold on @tall anchor let me see if i can find the log for you of this\

[eternal talon]

yes

[quick grove]

No you will not start this again

[scenic yacht]

thats what i indeed said

[quick grove]

Plain and simple

[tall anchor]

I'm just trying to reword the logs and make sure I got it right

[eternal talon]

here you go

^ @tall anchor

[quick grove]

Smartest women alive right here

Give her the a golden medal

@tall anchor

[eternal talon]

also what logs?

[subtle verge]

It's not really stated how the virus got out top-side outside of the log that gives us the first glimpse of death in Florida. Also keep in mind that none of the sleeper transformation thru the parasite or virus or both has been confirmed. Speculatory at best until further notice.

[tall anchor]

Okay, interesting.

[eternal talon]

we do know it's the virus though that wiped out earth, and didn't leave sleepers on the surface.

[subtle verge]

We don't know if it left sleepers or not.

[eternal talon]

so the sleeper transformation is kinda mute because they are still corpses regardless of how they look.

[subtle verge]

There's not a lot outside of global extinction that's been stated.

[quick grove]

Because everyone is fucking dead

We don't know that theres no one to tell us this

[eternal talon]

yeah, but it's under the impression it's a virus to the outside world, not zombies as it would likely be seen by the general populus

[subtle verge]

I'm simply offering to keep an open mind. Daraxus and I were the ones that calculated the number for global extinction 6.

[quick grove]

Fair enough

[eternal talon]

i still think it'd be really noticeable if there were sleepers on the surface.

the 15% that survived wouldn't have because the virus wouldn't have died out

it would be way less than that.

15% of 7 trillion is a LOT of people

[subtle verge]

99.98% of the world is gone.

Not 85%

[scenic yacht]

7 trillion?

[tall anchor]

Wait, 7 trillion? that's the number being used for 2050?

[subtle verge]

And that's calculated at 9.5 billion people using 2050 statistics.

No, Losty's numbers are wrong.

[tall anchor]

Yeah that sounded a lot more right, thank you punk

[eternal talon]

hold on hold on maybe i'm just very confused

maybe it was billion not trillion

i don't remember

[scenic yacht]

lmao idk if earth could hold 7 trillion people ever period

[eternal talon]

the game is set in 2050?

[tall anchor]

7.2bn is today.

[subtle verge]

In the year 2050, there is a calculated 9.5 billion people.

[eternal talon]

^

[scenic yacht]

trillion is a STUPID big number

[quick grove]

No its between 2065-2070

[subtle verge]

The game takes place in, what we theorize, is 2065-2070 with current logs as evidence.

[tall anchor]

The logs are all set in 2040-2052

[eternal talon]

still, a lot more people than would be expected with that amount of sleepers everywhere

[subtle verge]

Up to 2057 at this moment.

[eternal talon]

also, kinda wierd given they are light sensative.

[tall anchor]

Oh, has the timeline site not been updated?

[subtle verge]

No, Chase hasn't updated it in quite a while.

[quick grove]

And we wake up as prisoners a few years later if i recal correctly

[subtle verge]

The Wiki has everything.

[eternal talon]

so yeah, still gonna doubt there are sleepers on the surface. would be even worse than it is now, as hard as it is to believe.

the virus-parasite combo is just a hyper-lethal blitzkreig nightmare of biological warfare

even super-advanced space allens weren't able to handle it

humans would and are way worse off against them.

that, and the kicker,

[quick grove]

We can't even handle covid lmao

[eternal talon]

only humans died, not birds and animals.

so it could be assumed the virus is needed to jump species.

[subtle verge]

This is unconfirmed.

[eternal talon]

oh.

well damn you daraxus

[subtle verge]

When Daraxus and I did our calculations, we left animal transfer out of the infection rate because we have no evidence that animals are infected.

[eternal talon]

imagine a covid going 4x faster with a 100% lethality rate that also left behind zombies.

[quick grove]

[subtle verge]

However, if we were to have added it into our calculations, all of humanity contracts the disease within 13 days, all of humanity ceases to exist in 20 days.

Versus the 5-6 years of NAM-V in current data.

[eternal talon]

which is more likely canon wise? in terms of time frame

[quick grove]

Is that when it got to the surface

[subtle verge]

I couldn't really tell you.

[eternal talon]

because we know the parasite is the smarter of the two, just given it's biology.

[subtle verge]

This would have started when the Florida residents died.

That would have been Day 1.

[eternal talon]

so would just prove more than the parasite didn't get out with the virus.

if animals were spared.

or at least, not infected

[quick grove]

Ah okay

[eternal talon]

@subtle verge whatchu think allen stuff is in the meteor and would we ever get to explore it in a rundown on your best guess?

[quick grove]

I would assume that the parasite is sensitive to light?

[eternal talon]

@quick grove the earth strain that was underground for 66 million years, yes.

not the red alpha strain

[quick grove]

Ah

I know this

So parasites possibly got to surface but died the moment it got there before it was fully developed?

So only the virus survived

[subtle verge]

Best guess? I think when we reach a certain depth, we'll have a few missions where we are without the presence of WRDN. As far as getting down to the meteor... I think we'll get to the point where we see the drill and the meteor, however I don't think we'll ever go inside of it.

[eternal talon]

ehhh, light doesn't kill them as far as we know

just pisses them off

[quick grove]

Oh

[eternal talon]

@subtle verge that's a shame. imagine all the cool alien stuff that could be waiting in the meteor. like red alpha levels of new uniqueness

[subtle verge]

I genuinely don't think it'll be big enough to explore in that sense.

[eternal talon]

the meteor is 9 miles wide..

[subtle verge]

Like we're talking maybe the size of a large boulder.

No, the impact zone is that wide.

Not the meteor itself.

If a meteor were that large and hit the earth, the earth breaks apart like an egg.

[eternal talon]

The meteor that is thought to have killed the dinosaurs, is estimated to be about 10 to 15 kilometers wide. It created an impact carter of over 150km across

-google

thats 7-9miles

@subtle verge

in the universe of gtfo, given it's alien in origin and not just space rock, a good size up to 5 miles likely could have survived.

[finite vine]

the egg is like 1.5km wide and 2 km tall

with tunnels all inside of it

we are for sure going inside of it

the meteor is "the egg"

[eternal talon]

i thought you guys said a little bit ago the egg was inside the meteor

[subtle verge]

Is this in a log?

[finite vine]

yea

[subtle verge]

I don't remember reading that, ever.

Garganta is ~1.5km wide, and 2km deep.

[finite vine]

MSL report K-UX-DeepScan

[subtle verge]

Not Kilometerrs, just meters.

[finite vine]

yea, 1.5km/ 1500 meters

• or - 208 m

is the width

[subtle verge]

to nadir. Width estimate is 1,247 meters (+/- 208m)```

[finite vine]

yes

[subtle verge]

Oh, I misread that.

[eternal talon]

1.2km

still over 1km

[subtle verge]

My apologies. Definitely not on a THC high atm.

[eternal talon]

the chunk of red alpha that is the meteor is fucking HUUUGE

[finite vine]

the egg is this mass that is in the ground. it was either the meteor itself, or was contained within the meteor

[eternal talon]

well it wouldn't really make sense for the aliens to send an egg as the escape craft.. is it just egg in shape?

[finite vine]

yes

its not an actuall egg

its just the shape of an egg

[eternal talon]

if its NOT INSIDE the meteor, i mean

cool.

[finite vine]

it is probably a spacecraft

or just an odd deposit of cretasium

[eternal talon]

wouldn't really make sense for it to be a spacecraft though,

[finite vine]

with tunnels in it

[eternal talon]

if they just yeeted it through a portal

rather than just flying it to earth

[finite vine]

well it does make sense, if the aliens flew it to earth

[eternal talon]

besides, why fly when you can teleport as a race of aliens as advanced as this?

[finite vine]

well they might not of been able to teleport something that big

[eternal talon]

sky, it had to have teleported to avoided the gravity of jupiter/saturn, if not having serious thrust capability

[tall anchor]

Not neccecarily

[finite vine]

using orbital mechanics, the spacecraft could of probably used jupiter as a gravitational sling shot. or, just flew past it

its not like jupiter is a black hole

[tall anchor]

It would have been affected by the gas giants' gravity, but it depends if earth was it's target or not

[eternal talon]

but your forgetting one thing.

[tall anchor]

Even then, you wouldn't need much deltaV to avoid being stuck

[eternal talon]

one, very MAJOR thing

i can get the parasite/virus and it's host hybernating underground for 65 million years, but...

what was the distance between red alpha and earth?

in lightyears

[finite vine]

we dont know

[tall anchor]

I mean, depends on tempratures really.

[eternal talon]

that's a bit of a stretch for it to survive, even in hybernation

we do know!

in-game

[finite vine]

how

[eternal talon]

i could have sworn it said

[tall anchor]

Low tempratures generally can last millions of years

[finite vine]

i dont think so

[eternal talon]

in one of the a1b1c1d1 levels

it said the distance and it was something rediculous

[tall anchor]

DNA, if stored properly can last millions of years

[eternal talon]

it's not dna though

they got infected when they cracked it open

not by digging with alien tech

[finite vine]

If I recall correctly, dr stokes didnt even know where the matter wave projector took people. like at all.

[eternal talon]

i swear it said somewhere in some text box

i am not crazy

[tall anchor]

As long as it's a low enough temprature inside, it's very possible that something can last that long

[eternal talon]

it was something like 20-30 didgets long

in lightyears

[finite vine]

damn I got no clue

[tall anchor]

that's bigger than the known universe

[finite vine]

true

observable universe

[eternal talon]

i don't remember where it was

but i swear to god i read it in-game

that was before i re-downloaded this discord, too. about a week ago.

[finite vine]

well if the distance was 20-30 digits long in light years, thats impossible

[eternal talon]

god, that kind of pisses me off now. i don't remember what level it was or where it was.

[subtle verge]

It's not stated anywhere.

[tall anchor]

Yeah, known universe is only like 460,000,000

[subtle verge]

I just checked.

[eternal talon]

you can't have played through the levels in 40 seconds

it was said one of the times you got teleported to red alpha i think

[subtle verge]

... Do you not know there's an official Wiki?

With transcripts?

[tall anchor]

aye

[finite vine]

diameter of the observable universe is like 90,000,000,000 light years i think

[subtle verge]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_6.0

[subtle verge]

Pretty close! Just looked: 93.016 billion light years.

[eternal talon]

it wasn't in one of this voice logs.

[subtle verge]

You can also check in previous expeditions.

[eternal talon]

it was just like a text box

no it was r6

[subtle verge]

I checked R4, 5, and 6.

[eternal talon]

was just like a week ago when i ran it for the first time

i literally haven't played since r3. it was r6.

[finite vine]

could of mistaken it for like the random numbers on one of the objective transmissions or something like that

was it a text log or through an update from the in game HUD?

[eternal talon]

hud

was not a text log, not a voice log, nothing like that.

[finite vine]

yea it was probably some random number from one of the pop ups

[tall anchor]

oh I vaguely know what you mean, but I thought it just said something like "SURVIVE"

[eternal talon]

nope

not that level.

was either a1 b1 or d1

was not data cubes.

think it was either a1 or b1

when you first get to go to red alpha in one of those missions

[tall anchor]

It's not b1 afaik

It's gotta be a1

[eternal talon]

i swear to you it said lightyears and some long ass number

i can solo it real quick and check if you want

[tall anchor]

it could have been b1

[subtle verge]

Oh, you're talking about the Checksum

_Transmission Checksum: <numbers>

[eternal talon]

no i don't think so

i'm not sure

god i'm so confused now

i was certain

[tall anchor]

There's something that pops up after you do the scan in b1

[eternal talon]

well b1 is a bit harder to solo "real quick"

[subtle verge]

On the initial jump in b1:

[eternal talon]

nope

[subtle verge]

Computer in b1

Where you fend off until you're pulled back.

[eternal talon]

fuck i don't know then

does it not say lightyears anywhere at all?

[subtle verge]

Negative.

Not in any of the text/audio transcripts, nowhere in any of the videos I'm skimming through.

[eternal talon]

i'm losing my mind

i just loaded into a1

[scenic yacht]

if it said lightyears that would be a MAJOR discovery that would confirm Red Alpha as being a planet, it would be known by now and well documented.

[tall anchor]

yeah, if there was an LY limit you could figure out from the stars where it was

[subtle verge]

There were quite a few of us who read and theorized and memorized everything for weeks upon release of 6.0. It would blow my mind if we didn't catch a distance.

[scenic yacht]

lightyears would be maybe the biggest discovery of R6

confirming aliens and a planet

[subtle verge]

If that is the case, that would all but confirm a few things.

But I highly doubt there was any form of known distance.

[scenic yacht]

I agree, it would be known by now

[eternal talon]

never say never

this is literally where ALL of my theories for r6 have come from

is this one popup

[subtle verge]

Reasoning states that the research team may have been able to confirm that, but since they all died due to corporate espionage >insert dramatic buh buh buhhh here< I don't think we'll know until a later time.

[eternal talon]

i was so sure of it i didn't even ask once

[subtle verge]

If you can find it, send it and @ me.

[eternal talon]

i am looking rn

half way through a1

looking for yellow key

[scenic yacht]

you could use this to discredit my Time Travel Theory, TTT

[eternal talon]

why you think i've been saying it's impossible?

[quick grove]

What did i miss

Oh god

Your back witht the TTT

[scenic yacht]

and you've just never brought up this supposed popup with lightyears on it when we first talked about TTT?

[tall anchor]

I want to know how the hell Creatserium 77a ate through the silicone

[eternal talon]

i had just forgotten about it

[quick grove]

If you have the technology you can travel light years in an instant

[subtle verge]

What do you mean?

[subtle verge]

Oh, right, that audio log.

[quick grove]

Red alpha is a different planet no?

[scenic yacht]

not confirmed

[subtle verge]

Technically, Red Alpha is the name of the space shuttle/mission that was being sent to Mars.

[quick grove]

So we on mars then?

[subtle verge]

The community has coined the place we go to as 'Red Alpha'

No.

[tall anchor]

Yeah definetly not mars

[quick grove]

Okay so red alpha is a space shuttle

[subtle verge]

It's just a community coined name for the place since there is no official name.

Yet.

[quick grove]

And we call the planet alpha two?

Wait im confused

[subtle verge]

Red Alpha = Coined name.

Alpha 1 / Alpha 2 are the names of bases that we go to.

[quick grove]

Ah

[tall anchor]

Red Alpha being a space shuttle that crashed into mars is to put into context why Kovak’s in deep shit

[quick grove]

Ah

So the planet we are on doesn't even have a nams

Name*

[subtle verge]

Correct.

[quick grove]

Aight I call it "dry as fuck planet"

[scenic yacht]

I call it "Future Earth" TTT

[quick grove]

[tall anchor]

This, and to why our characters say ‘This place is huuuuge’ every level

[quick grove]

The complex is huge

I mean id love to be in thier shoes

Not really tho

It be hell

[scenic yacht]

where is the 2057 log people talk about in d4? all i see on the wikis are two logs. Both undated, one talking about BIOCOM/WARDEN overriding every system and another about the WHO saying the virus is bad

[finite vine]

the date is in the meta data stamp

it looks something like 5704---

its on the warden log

[eternal talon]

it's not on a1

[scenic yacht]

i see

[eternal talon]

bloody ell, i don't remember for the life of me where i saw that

[scenic yacht]

In your imagination

[quick grove]

Man just fuckin solod A1

[finite vine]

facts

[eternal talon]

what happened to the "GOOD" machinegun?

i miss it so.

[quick grove]

Damn only 25

[eternal talon]

it was a very different gun

[quick grove]

That aint a machine gun

[subtle verge]

KLIW-432-B6Y (Found in R6D4)

[eternal talon]

it was actually good.

[subtle verge]

shortwave transmission intercepted@27mhz
meta3.date_stamp(570420.114318)

//transcript follows…

UNIDENTIFIED MALE
This is [inaudible] Sakura broadcasting from Geneva on behalf of the World Health Organization we are broadcasting on short [inaudible] radio [inaudible] every day the World Health Organization recommends all people remain isolated until further notice there is still no treatment for the nam vee [inaudible] currently no vaccination [inaudible] misinformation and misdiagnosis [inaudible] there is no naturally occuring immunity from nam vee due [inaudible] the world health [inaudible] has authorized an [inaudible] to find the origins of the virus it is believed to be located in the yucatan peninsula possibly near the [inaudible] access to a radio transmission device please contact us [inaudible] frequency at any time this station is monitored twenty [inaudible] will reach the peninsula in the three days [inaudible] staff do not have access to food or water and will be there exclusively to search for the origins of [inaudible] however representatives will have details of all operational evac centers and can provide details on the location [inaudible] will repeat on the hour every hour this is the world [inaudible]

../BIOCOM.
.. transcript ends//
intercept log updated
alert system flagged```

meta3.date_stamp(570420.114318)

[scenic yacht]

wait, so the WHO's first broadcast about NAM-V being a phase 6 global pandemic was March 14th, 2053 XCEP-THEM-365 (Found in R6A1).

[subtle verge]

April 20th, 2057.

[finite vine]

what are the numbers after the period

[scenic yacht]

BUT apparently NAM-v would kill all humanity in like days

so how would the WHO broadcast 2057

four years after

[subtle verge]

This is where my IRL job shines

[finite vine]

do you work in the medical field?

[subtle verge]

No, I work with humanitarian aid and specialize in Hazmat.

[finite vine]

cool

[eternal talon]

did the scope used to be different or is it just me?

also, what was the lore behind this thing? the baby HSU?

[finite vine]

we dont really know

[scenic yacht]

chill i need @subtle verge to explain this to me

[finite vine]

I have some theories thou

[scenic yacht]

finna be long apparently damn

[subtle verge]

Just being thorough!

[eternal talon]

what's gonna be long

[scenic yacht]

how the first WHO broadcast stating NAM-V being phase 6 is 2053, the last broadcast is 2057

if it was that deadly it shouldve wiped out everyone in like days

fucking roetegen 17 or some shit lmao

[eternal talon]

again, it was only half.

didn't have the parasite to fuel it.

so it would be weaker, by default.

[scenic yacht]

it was given rotegen 17 (idk the actual word lol) a real world rating. meaning it would spread everywhere in days

with a 100% fatality rate

without the parasite

[eternal talon]

well then yeah, why didn't it?

[subtle verge]

Some of the more serious humanitarian aid organizations (FEMA, Red Cross, WHO) have stations set up around the globe, usually in tandem with other countries equivalent organizations, where there are tons of backup generators, HAM and satellite radios, medical equipment, and general supplies for survival and enough humanitarian aid supplies until a supply chain is back up and running.

So, let's say for example, nuclear war happens, causes a collapse of mankind, xyz: after securing a safety net for themselves to work on operations, these stations then "open for business" so to speak. They will use civilian radio waves to push out the HA's message, similar to how your phone or a weather alert radio would alert you of any natural disasters or nasty weather.

The batteries in these places can last years before they need replaced, and usually the broadcast created by these HAs would be played on a 60 second loop (or shorter/longer depending on the scenario).

That all being said: it's likely that WRDN picked up one of these broadcasts, as these kinds of broadcasts become very 'static-y' if their batteries are dying.

[scenic yacht]

THATS what im ASKING

so basically your saying its automated?

and likely everyone is dead already

[subtle verge]

It's not 100% autonomous, someone has to press the 'Play' button, but once that button is pressed it will continue until someone stops it or the batteries die.

[scenic yacht]

so the last people are in geneva, switzerland. Hoping others are alive too

[subtle verge]

Yeah, pretty much.

Very isolated tribes, as well.

[scenic yacht]

I am Legend vibes

[quick grove]

Damn

[eternal talon]

so why don't we see ruins on red alpha then if it's made of this super crazy metal thing?

[quick grove]

?

[scenic yacht]

a question with no answer yet

[subtle verge]

I'm not sure what you're asking -- the way I read it is: "Why don't we see remains of previous life?"

[eternal talon]

also, i already did. the gravity would be too high in the future for flying creatures with the proportions of the floaty bois.

i did that days ago

[quick grove]

Hehe

[eternal talon]

you guys said the egg or whatever part of the meteor is made of some wierd metal? what was the name of it?

you'd think the aliens' structures would be made of the same sort of thing, or at least some of them would be, sort of like steel.

[scenic yacht]

ive discredited your discredit by saying simply

its a videogame

[subtle verge]

Cretasium a77?

[eternal talon]

yeah what's that

and what's the eridium stuff

[quick grove]

Dude you haven't discredited anything we proved you countless times wrong now

And discredited your TTT

[scenic yacht]

youve said that a bunch but yall literally havent

[eternal talon]

between future and space allens, it's allens.

[quick grove]

Lmao

[eternal talon]

let me get the list again....

[subtle verge]

Cretasium is the new material that was discovered along the meteorite. Iridium is a real-world material. Iridium is the second densest naturally occurring metal, part of the platinum grouping.

[eternal talon]

sigh

[scenic yacht]

Time Travel Theory is a valid theory that hasnt been disproven

[quick grove]

If your "future earth" is set in the future where is the human building?

[scenic yacht]

losty if you bring up that list about physics without realizing were playing a video game lmao

[quick grove]

Umm devs base things on physics dummy

[scenic yacht]

a very distant future could mean anything. Erosion, warden getting nukes to fight sleepers causing chaos, etc etc

[quick grove]

There would still be ruins

[eternal talon]

once AGAIN, list.

[scenic yacht]

once AGAIN videogame

[finite vine]

it is possible to travel to the future, but not to the past

[eternal talon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[quick grove]

"once AGAIN videogame" won't disprove our facts my guy

[finite vine]

at least according to Einstein

[scenic yacht]

its a video game guys lmao

its not real life

[finite vine]

yea true lmao

[small bobcat]

bruh video games still have their lore

[quick grove]

But physics are man

[eternal talon]

just because it's not real life doesn't mean it isn't based on certifiable truth and 'plausibility'

[scenic yacht]

its a literal sci-fi video game

[finite vine]

yea im sure the devs got advice from a physicist or something like that to make the lore for r6

[scenic yacht]

the sci-fi genre

[quick grove]

And sci-fi uses physics

Every single thing has something to do with the word physics

[eternal talon]

literally all you have to do is prove the list wrong

[scenic yacht]

literally video game

[eternal talon]

and then your theory is even possible at all.

without, it's just wright out.

[scenic yacht]

literally use something from in game and prove the TTT wrong

oh wait you cant

[quick grove]

"Literally video game" doesn't prove your theory of TTT right my guy

[eternal talon]

the fact that it's teleportation not time travel?

[scenic yacht]

yall keep saying "but muh physics prove your VIDEO GAME theory wrong" use something from in-game and prove me wrong

[finite vine]

well we dont really know if it is teleportation for sure... but it seems likely

[eternal talon]

YOU CANT GO BACK IN TIME

[scenic yacht]

SAYS WHO

[eternal talon]

EVERYTHING

[finite vine]

it is a video game

thou

[scenic yacht]

THE VIDEO GAME POLICE?!

LMAO

[finite vine]

are you traveling in the past or future in your theory?

[scenic yacht]

future

[finite vine]

ah ok

[eternal talon]

we go there and back in-game.

[scenic yacht]

Red Alpha is future Earth

[eternal talon]

the and back is the part that matters here.

[scenic yacht]

ok and?

[eternal talon]

not to mention all the other stuff.

[small bobcat]

i dont think red alpha is future eath, the landscape doesnt seem right

[quick grove]

Transports the player to a different location @scenic yacht

Nothing to do with Time travel

[finite vine]

a community member wrote that...

[scenic yacht]

future earth is a different location lMAO

[finite vine]

whoever wrote it could be wrong

[quick grove]

True but this is the wiki and whats said in the wiki is ultimately the facts right?

[finite vine]

in terms of gameplay, it does transport the player to a separate location.

[subtle verge]

Yeah, the Wiki is ran by a dedicated few from the lore channels.

[finite vine]

not necessarily.

[quick grove]

True

But nothing indicates time travel

[subtle verge]

When it comes important items like the MWP, we add and remove certain information as it's delivered to us.

[scenic yacht]

the phrase different location isnt even a problem lol, any location other thatn where the expedition team was currently at is different

even on future earth

[finite vine]

^

[subtle verge]

So what we know about the IX Syringe today, could be completely different tomorrow.

[quick grove]

If red alpha was future earth there would be human ruins left behind even after nukes

[subtle verge]

And we'd update that.

[scenic yacht]

depends on many factors, mainly how far into the future

[quick grove]

And this includes buildings

[quick grove]

That doesn't make sense tho

[vagrant fiber]

Is there one sun in the sky in Red Alpha or can any other astral bodies be seen?

[eternal talon]

erosion

i looked.

[scenic yacht]

erosion pal

[eternal talon]

you can't see anything but dust storms

[quick grove]

Yeah but there would be signs

[scenic yacht]

theres only one sun

coincidence?!?!?!

[eternal talon]

yes.

[scenic yacht]

TTT!

[quick grove]

And alpha one and two would be gone as well

[vagrant fiber]

Red Alpha isn't Mars.

Correct

[finite vine]

only thing to observe is that the sunsets are blue, which indicates a lot of mie scattering from the dust in the atmosphere.

[quick grove]

Erm many planets can have one sun

[vagrant fiber]

The atmosphere seems to be breathable

[finite vine]

yea it is

[scenic yacht]

alpha one and two were labs teleported when experimenting on the hammerstein artifacts, as mentioned by Rebecca

[quick grove]

In fact any system can have one sun

[agile plinth]

why was my main acc pinged 4 times here

[quick grove]

Teleported

[scenic yacht]

COINCIDENCE?!

[quick grove]

He said it

[eternal talon]

honestly it doesn't make sense how it is breathable. there are no plants other than bramble

[scenic yacht]

you can teleport to the future lmao

[finite vine]

yea but there are plants

[quick grove]

If it was future earth there wouldn't be an atmosphere left

[finite vine]

its probably an early planet. one of the scientists did say that the atmosphere is only breathable for a few hours

[agile plinth]

mercury was breathable before its atmosphere was stripped off

[vagrant fiber]

Right given we should be in highest lvl biological gear but Warden gives us only ramshackle.

[quick grove]

Teleport and time travel are two different things man

[scenic yacht]

depends on many factors, mainly time

[quick grove]

No

[eternal talon]

@finite vine

[scenic yacht]

you can teleport to the future

[eternal talon]

this isn't making nothing for oxy

[subtle verge]

Buildings and remnants of us would last maybe a few thousand years at most; and we're talking all plastics dissolving. Buildings would crumble to dust in about 1-2k years.

[finite vine]

lol

[agile plinth]

that's a thing on every planet within a certain distance of its star

[scenic yacht]

exactly

[subtle verge]

WIthin 500 years, there would only be greenery seen from space.

[finite vine]

especially with that weather.

[quick grove]

Thats not how it works

[eternal talon]

literally the ENTIRE horizon on red alpha is dust storms

[vagrant fiber]

Right and there isn't any volcanic activity

[agile plinth]

not anything known

[small bobcat]

Red Alpha is, from naked eye observation, a mountainous desert

at least we know there is plant life and the air is breathable, so it aint mars

[scenic yacht]

I have literally a notepad with notes about possible Time Travel Theory, TTT in the works as we speak

[agile plinth]

we already have figured out it can't be mars a while ago

[finite vine]

liquid also exists.

[agile plinth]

gtg

[small bobcat]

I SAID IT AINT MARS

[quick grove]

And if there was nukes as you said the earth would be green again lmao

[small bobcat]

[screeches]

[eternal talon]

another pic of horizon, all dead.

look at THOSE MOUNTAINOUS DUST STORMS

no, literally higher than mountains

[scenic yacht]

i never confirmed nor denied the nukes being actually used, as there is no in game proof

i just said its possible

[subtle verge]

Have a good day, bud!

[quick grove]

"a very distant future could mean anything. Erosion, warden getting nukes to fight sleepers causing chaos, etc etc" quote HazardGO

[scenic yacht]

"could mean anything"

[eternal talon]

can you please explain these dust storms, if it's earth, hazard?

[scenic yacht]

hmmmm

[scenic yacht]

what does that mean to you merv

[quick grove]

Anything but you said this tho "a very distant future could mean anything. Erosion, warden getting nukes to fight sleepers causing chaos, etc etc"

[scenic yacht]

dust storms could be many things, aftermath of nuclear warfare due to Warden, atmosphere doing to trash, erosion, etc.

[eternal talon]

look how massive they are.

[scenic yacht]

yes those are examples of "anything"

[quick grove]

Thats definitely not earth

[scenic yacht]

they are muy big

[small bobcat]

theres gotta be some SERIOUS changes if it really is future earth. Those mountains, sandstorm, alien crystals, plants

[eternal talon]

they are taller than mountains

even the dust bowl wasn't THAT bad

[quick grove]

And wasn't the crystals found only in the meteor?

[scenic yacht]

no mountains and plants on present day earth?

or sandstorms?

[eternal talon]

matter wave crystals are on red alpha.

[small bobcat]

do you see those plants in present days?

[eternal talon]

pic for reference

only think anywhere close i could think of is tumbleweed

[scenic yacht]

yes?!

lmao these bruh?!

in the desert sure

[eternal talon]

it has little yellow and pink flowers

and i do mean LITTLE

[scenic yacht]

man i could see these plants a few hours from me lmao

yall need to go to dry ass areas

[quick grove]

[scenic yacht]

plants just look like that present day

in areas

[quick grove]

I live in the driest part of the world lol

[eternal talon]

explain how these

[quick grove]

Well not thee driest by dry non the less

[eternal talon]

can fly here

[small bobcat]

i live down under and i dont see a lot

not one of those plants for sure

im going the History Channel route and calling aliens

[scenic yacht]

the time travel hole was left open, more than likely by the Warden in the future on purpose

[small bobcat]

alien planet or dimension

[eternal talon]

no, how they can fly

[quick grove]

Hehe my fellow brother from another mother

[eternal talon]

not how they got through.

[quick grove]

You mean quantum tether?

Because that's how to logs explain it as

[scenic yacht]

they can fly because of gas and tentacles as explained by "The Nature of Sleepers" written by many including Daraxus and Punkthulhu

[quick grove]

Well isn't oxygen a form of gas?

[scenic yacht]

yes, the quantum tether can be explained as anything the devs need it to be. Including a time travel portal

[scenic yacht]

yup

[eternal talon]

what's floating in the air here? only visible with flashlight on

[quick grove]

Dust?

[scenic yacht]

could be many things, dust is the more likely

[small bobcat]

yeah that could be dust particles

[scenic yacht]

sand?

[quick grove]

Nah you can't communicate from the past to the future lmao

Thats impossible

[eternal talon]

^

AHAHAHA

[quick grove]

That would literally break the law of everything

[eternal talon]

I FOUND IT

[scenic yacht]

I keep repeating this line to both of you but let me say it again......

says who? the VIDEOGAME POLICE?!

[eternal talon]

the first time we ever see chargers

this is the cieling

someone earlier today wanted a pic

[quick grove]

Says fuckin physics bitch

[scenic yacht]

woah pal

[scenic yacht]

calm down no need for name calling

[small bobcat]

...shit, Hazard is using lack of concrete information and artistic license to keep his time travel idea alive. As in "You cant prove it isnt because devs havnt said it isnt"

[scenic yacht]

if youre getting this upset consider walking away

[quick grove]

I literally just disprove your TTT LMAO

[small bobcat]

theres no point arguing this lmao

[eternal talon]

@worthy flower ii found it

[scenic yacht]

just prove me wrong using in game sources

[scenic yacht]

keep saying that pal and ill keep repeating the same thing as well..... says who? the VIDEOGAME POLICE?!

[small bobcat]

theres no sufficient in game sources to get past the handwavial "it could be anything"

[quick grove]

Jesus that black goo looks to be every where

[quick grove]

Says physics

[mystic pilot]

mfw sleeper bodies actually get recycled

[eternal talon]

that's in the room the very first time we see chargers/hybrids.

the only time we see anything like this afik

[mystic pilot]

turn into black goo and get collected into that to birth more

[small bobcat]

bro, dudes getting out of it by implying that in game sci fi logic may be different from real world stuff

[scenic yacht]

exactly, so it makes no sense as to why it cant be Time Travel Theory

[quick grove]

Its literally inhumanly impossible to communicate from the past to the future

[scenic yacht]

lol is it video game impossible

[small bobcat]

its pointless to argue with him about this

[quick grove]

Yeah don't know where he gets that shit from

[quick grove]

And a video game uses physics lmao

[scenic yacht]

wow its so weird how a video game may differ from real life physics, so strange

[quick grove]

Anything and everything uses physics

[scenic yacht]

then bring up LITERALLY anything else

im not telling yall to bring up physics lmao

[mystic pilot]

another planet is the popular theory isnt it

[scenic yacht]

somehow yall think its a gotcha moment by bringing up real life physics

[mystic pilot]

mars being on the highly unlikely end of that spectrum

[quick grove]

Yes because it is

[small bobcat]

most of the stuff in game lead to implications without outrightly stating the whole picture

[scenic yacht]

no in game proof

[quick grove]

Because it is

[eternal talon]

popular theory is another planet yes, but not within our solar system

[small bobcat]

so you get a free pass to handwave everything as "doesnt mean its not time travel :))))"

[mystic pilot]

on the subject of physics

[scenic yacht]

just give me some proof that its not time travel and ill be wrong, its so simple

[mystic pilot]

i would like to point out there are many sacrifices made for the sake of gameplay

[scenic yacht]

yup

interesting

[mystic pilot]

things being invulnerable to gunfire for no apparent reason being one of them

scouts, spitters, the front of a tank

[eternal talon]

(old menu for anybody feeling nostalgic)

[subtle verge]

My favorite is the terminal velocity drop loading screen.

[mystic pilot]

yeah