One more thing
#gtfo-lore
drowsy furnace
Not just that. When we get out of said expeditions, it seems to know our health
drowsy furnace
Why are we never fully equipped when we get sent down to the areas
Honestly, that might be because we begin in hydrostasis
finite vine
Not just that. When we get out of said expeditions, it seems to know our health
well that could be determined once we are put back in hydrostasis and hooked back up to the NRV probe
dull geyser
When you finish a thing does it still give the sanity health and infection thing?
finite vine
When you finish a thing does it still give the sanity health and infection thing...
yea, i think so
finite vine
Why are we never fully equipped when we get sent down to the areas
probably because the warden does not want to waste resources on us, because of limited resources.
also for gameplay purposes
dull geyser
Figures
drowsy furnace
Skyrope
finite vine
whats up
drowsy furnace
Not much
Though one thing… stuck to me
The alpha two bit
How did someone get up there?
And those crystals. They mean something
finite vine
the crystals are probably native to the planet, and they probably have some kind of quantum property that allows teleportation.
drowsy furnace
It seems like it’s farmable
finite vine
true. probably mineable. they must be extremely expensive.
could be a motive for the warden
drowsy furnace
Yeah… enough to make a teleported to the planet it comes from.
Begs the question, why that particular planet?
finite vine
I think the meteor they were digging into probably contained an alien spaceship from the planet
drowsy furnace
It doesn’t feel like they beep booped buttons on the teleporter stuff
finite vine
yea
drowsy furnace
It seems like the crystals have a connection somehow to that thing
finite vine
yea, like a catalyst or waypoint.
its hard to explain, the crystals will teleport people to the planet they originate from
drowsy furnace
Yeah.
The devices they come in seem like a container for them so they don’t go haywire
subtle verge
Why are we never fully equipped when we get sent down to the areas
The Warden sees us as necessary sacrifices for it's goals/ambitions. With that in mind, if you were sending a team to their potential deaths, why would you want to equip them with more resources when they can easily scavenge them?
finite vine
also probably a container to connect them to the data cubes
and harness the power more efficiently
drowsy furnace
There’s a lot more to this than meets the eye
subtle verge
The Warden sees us as necessary sacrifices for it's goals/ambitions. With that i...
I see it as more of a means of preserving what resources remain, as we aren't the only team being sent into the complex, just the plot-armored ones.
finite vine
the matter wave projector actually has a lot of meaning in its name. matter waves are a quantum mechanics concept, that states that matter can be described as a wave instead of a particle in small quantities. google wave particle duality.
drowsy furnace
Yeah…
Seems like they’re using this to teleport… what I’m thinking is that they take our bodies
And transfer the waves to the native planet
The matter waves
That’s at least what I think is happening
finite vine
yea. but "projector" makes me think that we are actually not there physically and are just experiencing the matter waves from the planet projected by the projector.
drowsy furnace
Perhaps.
finite vine
which I guess does actually make sense... if matter is projected to you then I guess it actually travels to you
drowsy furnace
Though… if that was the case, then how did we do the terminal stuff back in ||b1?||
finite vine
yea so we have to be there physically
subtle verge
Daraxus and I did a good amount of resource gathering and reading on quantum physics and mechanics. He and I think that, with the quantum tether in place, the teleportation is just a folding of time and space, the tether being the connection that keeps us in the same portion of time from Point A to Point B.
Also, no need to spoiler tag things. Chances are if you're in this channel, you're accepting the notion that you will see a lot of spoilers.
drowsy furnace
Honestly I’m imagining something along the lines of an anime teleportation when you said that
finite vine
Daraxus and I did a good amount of resource gathering and reading on quantum phy...
I agree. However, worm holes are more of a general relativity concept than a quantum mechanics conecpt
subtle verge
It's more than just worm holes, per se, more...
I'm not sciency enough to give a really good description, I guess, but in my own head I think of a rubber band.
drowsy furnace
Worm holes feel more dimension travel based
finite vine
I see it as our matter waves are being projected to the planet.
not disagreeing with worm holes though
subtle verge
This graph kind of explains what we think:
finite vine
yea.
subtle verge
Yeah, I'm fully open to anything and everything within reason.
drowsy furnace
So… the distance is folded?
finite vine
So… the distance is folded?
space time is folded, and a worm hole is formed to take a shorter distance through space time
drowsy furnace
It looks like the initial distance is folded
subtle verge
Yes and no. Space and time is folded, however the distance itself is not.
drowsy furnace
Something is folded that’s for sure
drowsy furnace
It’s something like that I’m guessing
finite vine
there is a good general representation of what a worm hole would look like in the movie
subtle verge
A layman's term of how quantum tethering works:
Let's say two neutrons have a string with infinite length attached to them. That string keeps both neutrons at the same exact time frame as each other no matter what distance these two neutrons travel. If one thing happens to one of the neutrons, it also happens to the other neutron at the exact same time in the exact same way.
drowsy furnace
They think of us as intruders perhaps? Or would they view us inferior, superior to the point of threatening, or… test subjects
drowsy furnace
A layman's term of how quantum tethering works:
Let's say two neutrons have a ...
I see… though I’m not taking quantum physics so it’ll be a while to comprehend.
finite vine
A layman's term of how quantum tethering works:
Let's say two neutrons have a ...
I thought quantum tether was a made up word...
finite vine
in what
subtle verge
It is incredibly science fiction.
finite vine
cool
subtle verge
In the fact that it's simply an idea, versus what we know of how quantum physics works.
drowsy furnace
So any thoughts on those aliens?
finite vine
probably from a separate planet within our universe
subtle verge
One moment please:
drowsy furnace
Oh no definitely little question. The thing I’m wondering is their viewpoint of us humans
subtle verge
A biology report written by our very own biology expert: Dr Grem (and associates).
As far as we know, they don't really have sentient thought outside of natural instinct and a hive-like mentality (note: they are not hivemind, think ants or bees).
knotty harness
is this doc 'official'
or is it written in the gtfo style by someone in community
subtle verge
It's someone in the GTFO community however he has credentials in real life.
drowsy furnace
Punkthulu my interest isn’t exactly…
knotty harness
aight
subtle verge
The Meat Balls & The Kraken?
subtle verge
Meat Balls are just a community coined name, we don't really have a name for them ourselves, not officially.
drowsy furnace
Do they act like jellyfish?
subtle verge
And The Kraken, as well.
knotty harness
it's curious how they're so ludicrously hostile to human life
'Oh no, four dudes are on that platform! BETTER DO FUCKING EVERYTHING TO MURDER THEM'
- the kraken
drowsy furnace
it's curious how they're so ludicrously hostile to human life
We don’t know what previous teams did before we got there
knotty harness
ah, fair
subtle verge
Honestly, we don't really know much about them outside of their incredibly aggressive nature and the fact that the Meat Balls have crystals implanted on their bodies which allow them to seemingly phase through walls and teleport.
knotty harness
the log about the scientists exploring with Bishop before Bishop returned somehow suggests that they always were this ludicrously hostile...and also that they hunt with intelligence, in packs, and avoid being ambushed
'bishop keeps moving us but they find us every time, even in pitch black'
subtle verge
Again, think more ants or bees. Hive-like structure and mindset, protect the colony/territory.
Anything that's not 'them' is a threat.
knotty harness
which is an issue when it seems like the whole-ass planet is their territory
hopefully all the genetic data we downloaded from D1, ends up telling us wtf they are
subtle verge
We also don't know if they're even natural as they are. There's theories and hypothesis floating around here that they too might be infected by the parasites and aren't naturally like that.
knotty harness
maybe the warden is as confused as we are
i doubt the warden would have left the tether open on purpose to let the meatballs through
it's not prisoner efficient 🙂
drowsy furnace
The meat balls don’t seem…
Natural
Remember, you said that they got crystals on their bodies
subtle verge
It's all hypothesis at this point until we get some crumb of concrete evidence.
Which, hopefully will come in 6.5 extension.
subtle verge
Again, think more ants or bees. Hive-like structure and mindset, protect the col...
^
We don't really know, honestly.
drowsy furnace
I mean something like how they attack
subtle verge
All we know is aggression towards intruders to it's territory.
knotty harness
with copious usage of fireworks, duh
subtle verge
Like the lasers/Meat Balls?
drowsy furnace
I’m wondering exactly as to how they attack
We might be able to… compare that to something if possible
subtle verge
We don't know. It's not something that I remember seeing a conversation about, honestly.
drowsy furnace
Well… yeah
If I go back to b1, I’ll go check on that
Deal?
Or whatever expeditions I find them in
royal finch
I cant find the moment where it was mentioned- so I'll just ask again
Warden is most likely a military DI called BIOCOM that was uploaded by someone to override a computer ai ?
Did i get that right?
subtle verge
If I gave a best guess? I'd say... something similar to how a harpoon snail works.
Warden is a military DI that took over BIOCOM.
drowsy furnace
Punk, do you by chance know or heard which expeditions I might encounter them in?
royal finch
Warden is a military DI that took over BIOCOM.
Thanks!
subtle verge
Punk, do you by chance know or heard which expeditions I might encounter them in...
We first see them in B1, but if you want to see them immediately, the very beginning of D4 has them chasing you.
drowsy furnace
I’ll get on that
royal finch
I always thought they shot shards as projectiles since they have them growing on their bodies. 
drowsy furnace
So… hmm… we get the matter wave projector from a1, take it to b1, then after the test, we get the hsu sample for coordinates for something in c1?
knotty harness
c2 has you fixing the generators to power the matter wave projector station in d1
warden is something like INSUFFICIENT POWER FOR JUMP GATE STATION - TAKE THESE CELLS TO THE GENERATORS
and that's the mission
so im assuming that the rundown missions are chronological by letter
c2 is before d1, etc
drowsy furnace
Something along those lines…
finite vine
c2 is before d1, etc
actually only the primary missions are linked together chronologically.
a1, b1, ect
drowsy furnace
I see…
subtle verge
The only mission that's really "loose" in terms of canon is D4. The jumping around with the chips is a bad rabbit hole to theorize, per Doc.
finite vine
yep
knotty harness
i dunno it really seems like c2 preps d1 but if you say so
subtle verge
The logs, however, full send.
drowsy furnace
Full send?
subtle verge
Full send as in "it's all canon."
echo lodge
whats the canonical name of the starfish in b1? i just keep calling them Patrick starfish
harsh saffron
whats the canonical name of the starfish in b1? i just keep calling them Patrick...
"Floaters" but your name for them is arguably better ^^
haughty ore
From now on, I'm calling them Patricks 😂
analog frigate
i was pinged 3 times, what is it
flat tiger
Warden is a military DI that took over BIOCOM.
biocom already was a DI, wrdn is a process that overrode biocom's primary objectives and introduced the rundown protocol
wrdn is basically just highjacking the DI functions of biocom to achieve new goals by giving objective stacks as biocom normally would to the legion.
wild plank
funkey
craggy hollow
"Floaters" but your name for them is arguably better ^^
meatballs/sentinals
wild plank
meatballs/sentinals
I call em Flying Polyps after these
https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Flying_Polyp
craggy hollow
❤️ a prisoner after mine own ||black, shriveled|| heart
flat tiger
i call em cacodemons or meatballs
not because of recent doom games doe
i guess the doom 3 cacos are more accurate than the old ones though
subtle verge
I always forget Cacodemons are a mob in DOOM. When I think of Cacodemon, I think of Magic: The Gathering's Dread Cacodemon card.
wild plank
i call em cacodemons or meatballs
The community rejected my idea of Scout Tendril spaghetti with floater meatballs 😢
subtle verge
But I do like the idea of calling them Cacodemon.
craggy hollow
i call em cacodemons or meatballs
cheap chinese cacodemon is what i've heard lmao
analog frigate
But I do like the idea of calling them Cacodemon.
technically it makes sense seeing how cacodemons are
subtle verge
technically it makes sense seeing how cacodemons are
True.
analog frigate
only thing is that ours don't bite
subtle verge
Prisma/Prism Cacodemons.
craggy hollow
spaghetti-o sauce at best
flat tiger
lack of turkey gobble death sound makes me sad
subtle verge
craggy hollow
horror fleshlight
craggy hollow
lmao
craggy hollow
i already have one, thanks :p
analog frigate
why has this channel become memes
flat tiger
that discord scam is why i nuked my previous account
graceful lotus
I havent
craggy hollow
don't worry, it'd go over your head
flat tiger
friend of mine said he got it, and since i figured he already clicked it, i trusted it, prior to hearing about it going around
graceful lotus
graceful lotus
friend of mine said he got it, and since i figured he already clicked it, i trus...
oof thats tough
you should use that one website to check if your info got leaked
flat tiger
yeah, it pisses me off that he was the target and was just too stupid and lazy to bother clicking it
if my info leaked it doesn't matter, i already disconnected shit from that account and nuked it
craggy hollow
both of those statements show a fundamental misunderstanding of their goals and methodology
they target everyone and they get what they want quickly
flat tiger
yeah, no, i get it, they want to scrape any info off anyone they can
flat tiger
i just don't care
oh no, they know my email address
that uses a completely different password and has multiple steps of authentication
craggy hollow
you're just one in a pile
flat tiger
in a pile of piles***
craggy hollow
we're all compromised 110%
flat tiger
you know the amount of sites that get cracked daily that we all likely had to make an email and password for?
craggy hollow
if a masters and work in cyber has taught me anything it is this, abandon all hope
i'm pretty aware, yes
flat tiger
my dad was in a warez BBS back in the early 90s and taught me the biggest thing with cybersecurity: anything can be taken if someone has the determination to do it.
craggy hollow
cyber didn't exist in the slightest back then
analog frigate
lads could we keep this place lore related
#general is a good place to talk about this
would probably attract more people to the convo as well
craggy hollow
ok ok, get back to writing fanfic
flat tiger
cyber didn't exist in the slightest back then
he has not stopped pirating since
shit a lot of shit is still stored on unsecured FTP servers that can be publically accessed if you know how
craggy hollow
and my uncle works at nintendo. you better stop before daraxus writes your death in to a wiki.
wild plank
and my uncle works at nintendo. you better stop before daraxus writes your death...
"you better stop before I have wikipedia change your article to past tense"
lilac island
lol
craggy hollow
no lol, only lore!
lilac island
lorel
craggy hollow
lmaore
lilac island
Why was woods shot and why did he shoot 18 marines?
because blah blah blah god
And are the characters we control clones of the original 4?
subtle verge
Why was woods shot and why did he shoot 18 marines?
More than likely had a very manic episode due to his zealotry.
subtle verge
And are the characters we control clones of the original 4?
No, they are the real deal. They've just been in hydrostasis for a long time.
craggy hollow
how long? it's circa 2050 yea?
craggy hollow
the beginning of nam-v spreading you mean?
do you wager that was roughly when they went IN to stasis?
analog frigate
nam-v was around that time
analog frigate
do you wager that was roughly when they went IN to stasis?
possibly
but probably later than that
craggy hollow
sure
analog frigate
we have dates up to 2057 iirc
craggy hollow
of our prisoners directly?
not sure why i thought it was so much earlier. makes more sense though.
subtle verge
Using logic and reasonable deduction: I'd estimate we're around the years 2065-2070.
analog frigate
I mean they have super cool holos
they supposedly had those before the whole disaster
robust apex
- Wood's shooting is in 2048, it's not known how long it is between his incarceration and when he enters hydrostasis.
- It's highly probable that Hackett enters hydrostasis either at the same time or after him as he was interviewing Woods.
- Bishop was stationed in Venezuela in 2028, the bishop audio log is dated three years later so he may have entered hydrostasis in 2031-2032. The log states that he is explicitly "for the legion" Bishop is confirmed as a KSO in the Stokes logs which at the earliest would be 2054, we know that as genesis 1395 he took at least 15 months to be properly memory wiped, possibly longer.
- Dauda entered hydrostasis as a result of the complex's collapse at some point. It's not known when this is but it probably wasn't the 2053 event (as it would be imagined that given the complex was still functioning after this that someone might have got him out again, unless warden shenangigans were involved) and is more likely to be something in the range of 2054-2057
craggy hollow
would follow that there has been a decline in tech advancement/innovation since the initial infection which would imply that yea it was all there at the start
robust apex
In response to whoever was asking about how long everyone had been in there; it's likely that bishop has ~20 years on everyone else
lilac island
So
whats the point of going to the complex
and teleporting to the desert?=
and is the desert another planet/dimension, or earth?
subtle verge
whats the point of going to the complex
The Warden sends us to Garganta (The Complex) to essentially do it's bidding. Exactly what it's end-goal is, we don't know.
analog frigate
and is the desert another planet/dimension, or earth?
another planet
yet unconfirmed if it's another dimension
lilac island
so it is another planet
analog frigate
nothing confirmed yet
lilac island
And any idea what the swarms are?
Lovecraftian things pretending to be humans, infected people...
analog frigate
swarms?
lilac island
The sleepers
lilac island
What are they?
open tree
Flying spaghetti monsters
lilac island
infected people, a creature trying to pretend...?
analog frigate
punk could you explain at the moment i can't
analog frigate
infected people, a creature trying to pretend...?
so
the humanoid ones are mutated people
the ones from red alpha we have 2 theories
either the original sleeper species
or the original species of red alpha, infected with the sleeper parasite
open tree
If you have a moment, can you better explain the comet bit? I had heard a video explaining the corporations at hand were mining where a comet (the one that wiped out the dinosaurs I belive?) had settled for a material used in high volume hard drives (petabyte drives I believe).
analog frigate
analog frigate
If you have a moment, can you better explain the comet bit? I had heard a video ...
they made the mine originally to mine iridium since prices skyrocketed
they stumbled onto the chicxulub meteorite by accident
open tree
Gotcha, thanks!
open tree
Definitely, thanks!
wild plank
:D
analog frigate
around that yeah
lilac island
around that yeah
And where is that "Nature of sleepers" document from?
dull geyser
So nam-v fucked all up, and only 25000 people remain in the world'
So is it nam-5 in numerals or is it nam-V?
analog frigate
nam-virus
lilac island
maybe, is the purpose of going into the complex to try n find a way to find a cure to nam-v or eliminate the hivemind?
dull geyser
maybe, is the purpose of going into the complex to try n find a way to find a cu...
Not quite a hive mind more akin to bees or ants
dull geyser
And how have the prisoners not been affected by nam-v?
They can be
Because of the infection stat
analog frigate
And how have the prisoners not been affected by nam-v?
sealed in HSUs
they cause nam-v to slow down
effectively making the person dead
analog frigate
Because of the infection stat
that's not nam-v
infection is different
another doc
lilac island
What is infection, garganta flu?
dull geyser
infection is different
K
lilac island
Wait hydrostasis p much kills the person?
dull geyser
Wait hydrostasis p much kills the person?
I’m not great at the lore right now
ember cave
Big bad rock carry bad sick. Bad sick make bad monsters. Bad people make bad decisions. Bad ai sends us to bad dreams.
Then something about bad plants
analog frigate
don't talk about the plants
lilac island
Plants?
analog frigate
we don't talk about those
it's the magic plants
they aren't connected to lore btw
ember cave
Pineapple Express
analog frigate
just a nonsensical thing
analog frigate
no
analog frigate
no
hazmat suits
highest grade
the parasite that carries nam-v can go through it
which is quite insane since it's supposed to be able to completely isolate a person from the outside world
ember cave
No enemy collision ez task for them
lilac island
the parasite that carries nam-v can go through it
So the prisoners are infected with nam v
analog frigate
as dauda said: we're all infected
lilac island
How tf arent we turnin to zombos then
analog frigate
sorta
dull geyser
Was I close?
analog frigate
yes
dull geyser
Oh
analog frigate
which stops the virus from spreading
dull geyser
So like a calorie a month type thing?
analog frigate
then it would take time for the virus to start spreading again
but by that time we are back in HSUs
dull geyser
I see
lilac island
I mean, dudes are saving the world
analog frigate
as said by other personnel: they are like robots, machines
analog frigate
I mean, dudes are saving the world
they are doing what the warden wants
if it wants to save it
then yeah
but we don't know
lilac island
Who controls the warden tho?
dull geyser
Who controls the warden tho?
Pretty much makes choices based on intel
analog frigate
it governs itself
lilac island
There seems to be people who still give orders though
finite vine
Who controls the warden tho?
we don’t really know. some say that the warden solely does what it wants, but it is possible that there is human influence.
lilac island
I wonder how they keep themselves not infected
analog frigate
personally by the evidence we have, probably not
finite vine
it’s more like 50/50
lilac island
also, tbh, how do the prisoners if they hate living so much with all the remarks they make, just kill themselves? They are like "man we are dead, getting sent to this nightmare"
analog frigate
they can't
lilac island
Im suprised they havent just shot themselves
analog frigate
they physically cannot do that
finite vine
well if they did that then we wouldn’t have a game
analog frigate
they can only do what the warden wants
finite vine
they physically cannot do that
wdym
analog frigate
the neural cortexes
lilac island
One thing id like for the game to have tho
is more on the scavenging part
I remember the old 2017 trailer had references to a sort of trade
From the stuff of the complex
Maybe they had a sort of shop or trade system in but removed it?
finite vine
the neural cortexes
the only evidence we have of prisoners being controlled by biocom/ warden was in that log describing the kso walking into that closet for 9 min then leaving.
finite vine
and the way the characters talk in game make it seem like they have the will to live
analog frigate
also waht stokes said
analog frigate
we do
extreme
they don't care about anything
but just do what they are ordered by the BIOCOM at the time
now it's the warden
analog frigate
yes
lilac island
Do you guys think the game had a scapped trading system?
lilac island
like payday, scavenging things that could net you currency
and you could use that currency for things
finite vine
Do you guys think the game had a scapped trading system?
a lot of things were scrapped from alpha
lilac island
a lot of things were scrapped from alpha
What else?
lilac island
i see no evidence of such
Old 2017 trailer, makes remarks to "Scavenging and trading"
finite vine
some of the things can still make a return though.
analog frigate
don't mind the 2017 things
lilac island
I think its woods saying "This is good stuff man, it will trade"
analog frigate
the lore wasn't figured out then
lilac island
I want more of scavenging a bit
Maybe even finding more than just ammo packs or suck, maybe even special weapons
finite vine
yes
i don’t think the prisoners are being controlled by the warden. Schaeffer is kinda proof of that.
analog frigate
he isn't a KSO
only some kind of high figure in the engineering department of smc
we don't know if he has a cortex
finite vine
neither was dauda
analog frigate
true, but we don't know if schaeffer has a cortex
finite vine
yep. we don’t know if the cortex controls people though.
finite vine
we don’t even really know what the NRV probe or the cortex is fully.
analog frigate
and they are the only ones acting like machines
finite vine
only KSOs are known to have them
really?
analog frigate
yeah
finite vine
dope, do you know what log it was?
finite vine
that big for lore i didn’t really know that
finite vine
a couple i think
i’ll have to look
analog frigate
that big for lore i didn’t really know that
not really
it just proves what we know about the cortexes
lilac island
Yknow
for being a hyper advanced AI
the warden should know about silenced weapons
lul
lilac island
Scavenged?
lilac island
what was KSO again?
analog frigate
Kovak Security/Special Operative
also you can spell Kovak as Kovac as well
both are said
finite vine
not really
well i mean it provides information for the nrv probe and cortexes. we didn’t really have any info on those.
dull geyser
what is the nrv probe reaction and why does it matter
analog frigate
what is the nrv probe reaction and why does it matter
we don't know
robust apex
true, but we don't know if schaeffer has a cortex
We know schaeffer was originally sent on missions in a group similar to the prisonners; we also know that he claims that the warden's signal is weaker at lower levels. From this it seems a fair bet that he's got a cortex. Especially as he disappears at the end of 2053 after leaking information over hearsay it's highly probable that he got bishoped.
One question of interest is how many times are we repeating the same missions? Some of the schaeffer "non-pre-recorded" logs vary between runs of the same mission
agile plinth
One question of interest is how many times are we repeating the same missions? S...
unknown
it's not even known if we really are repeating the missions
it might just be some game design thing
i don't see why we would need to repeat expeditions
at least the ones that actually have varying audio logs in them
robust apex
i don't see why we would need to repeat expeditions
Warden could be on the fritz; it forgets which missions are or aren't completed, wipes our memories and sends us down to do them again
Or some missions just have objectives that are technically repeatable, C3 for instance
analog frigate
Warden could be on the fritz; it forgets which missions are or aren't completed,...
that's possible seeing how messed up the servers are judging from the logs
spiral lodge
Hi there 😄 Is there a place where the lore for this game is written? Story-wise and so on? 🙂
cobalt mulch
check the pinned stuff on this channel, there's some
flat tiger
@spiral lodge holy shit i've seen your hunt showdown videos recently LOL
some stuff is in the pine, some isn't unlese i'm wrong
spiral lodge
<@326437804009848833> holy shit i've seen your hunt showdown videos recently LOL
Oh, man! Appreciate it 😄
I'm looking to do some similar videos about GTFO
flat tiger
there is a LOT, huge wealth of stuff with GTFO and a some of it is pretty in-depth
honest merlin
he isn't a KSO
I think he is/was made into a KSO like Dauda at some point because he refers to the prisoners as "so many of us working through the maze". He either deserted his team or his team got wiped and he is the only survivor.
analog frigate
true
honest merlin
And considering how he refers to the Warden and has similar memory loss as the playable characters... he is a KSO.
Or an ex-KSO after he went insane.
It should probably be fixed on the lore summary document that Schaeffer is/was a KSO
analog frigate
i believe it's not mentioned in the first place
me and punk weren't certain about it at the time
honest merlin
I remember it having been in there at some point, what is the most up to date summary?
honest merlin
Thanks
heady nest
What is GTFO lore
dim scroll
GTFO lore
wispy torrent
gtfo lore
dull geyser
@heady nest @wispy torrent @dim scroll check the pins for some good starts
analog frigate
this as well
analog frigate
I know that one of the bots had a warden insignia
warden insignia?
heady nest
warden insignia?
fancy word for logo I think
analog frigate
you mean the smc logo on woods' shirt?
heady nest
emblem or sumn like that
analog frigate
heady nest
you mean the smc logo on woods' shirt?
smc is Santonian righ
analog frigate
yes
heady nest
No i swore one of the bots had the warden door logo on it
analog frigate
well i suggest taking a picture of it
dim scroll
<@312942680407539713> <@758141382744997938> <@208595588709613569> check the pin...
Why are you pinging me lmao
flat tiger
wispy torrent
ZAMN
dull geyser
Why are you pinging me lmao
Sorry I got my second booster and am really fucked in the head rn
dim scroll
lol
heady nest
ZAMNNNNNNN
craggy hollow
Sorry I got my second booster and am really fucked in the head rn
it's never going to save you from nam-v
dull geyser
Oof that sucks
brave schooner
Fully expecting GTFO to become the world's most #%%$# up prison break
Can't wait to see what sort of stuff Schaefer gonna put us through
analog frigate
Can't wait to see what sort of stuff Schaefer gonna put us through
depends if we ever meet him
or if he is still alive
brave schooner
If we assume he is alive, I wonder how he could survive. Everything is infected, whatever could he eat?
cobalt mulch
what im thinking is how did sch hack himself to the pa system / recordings..
analog frigate
If we assume he is alive, I wonder how he could survive. Everything is infected,...
depends how infection works
brave schooner
He did seem to have a lot of issues with that
In the first recording, he didn't know the thing was on
cobalt mulch
has he hijacked parts of the complex systems or sth
analog frigate
what im thinking is how did sch hack himself to the pa system / recordings..
he was head or at least a high position in the engineering dept of smc
he knows the inner workings well for sure
cobalt mulch
that could be the answer to surviving, he knows where the canned goods are etc
analog frigate
true
brave schooner
And if he was high employee, he may be able to bypass security scans
analog frigate
he definitely was
brave schooner
Which is a big deal.
I was thinking about how you could theoretically activate a door and then hide in a closet after the bioscan completes
analog frigate
otherwise he couldn't have passed through any security door
analog frigate
Which is a big deal.
I was thinking about how you could theoretically activate ...
engineering dept
the whole reason we have alarms is since it's a lockdown
and the warden doesn't have permissions
all it can do is manage to have the door open
while schaeffer can probably disable the alarms as well
brave schooner
Yeah, I read the logs about the activation of scans and "nothing in, nothing out" protocols. A smart move, all things considered, only now it works to our detriment.
Schaeffer probably installed the things at the time, thinking about how his mental status is really fucked, I'd say he's an old timer in that place. I just don't see how he can also be part of Legion if he was engineer for the complex
analog frigate
he wasn't exactly a part of legion
iirc it's more of a dauda situation
just put himself in an HSU and that's it
brave schooner
Ooooh, yeah, that makes sense
analog frigate
he received training after the fact
brave schooner
So... any theories on what place we are teleported to on R6?
It looks like another planet, really.
analog frigate
currently we call it red alpha
there are multiple theories on what it is
a planet in our universe we bend spacetime to get to, a planet in another dimension we teleport to by switching places with particles there using quantum entanglement, earth in the far future we get to by time travelling or something similar
brave schooner
Those crystals are interesting, if they even are crystals. The presence of research stuff in that place could indicate researchers going in and out of that place to study. So many possibilities. Thinking about it, it's probably not a teleport, that'd be too good and a tech that would not be limited to complex only.
Dimension travelling is a good one
analog frigate
it is completely limited to the facility
brave schooner
Gives a caveat to this teleporter
brave schooner
Whoa
analog frigate
2 workers immediately disappeared by mishandling it
just popped out of existence as 2 other witnesses say
brave schooner
Definitively related to that new element they found
brave schooner
Hmmm
Wasn't there a log were a guy replaced a drill that hit some cretasium and then commited suicide? The depths seem loaded with cretasium veins, which could explain why people went bananas and correlate the element to that particular problem.
placid beacon
greetings lore channel
you'd be correct on funny drill
as for the theories on where alpha two exactly is, im a supporter of dimensional travel
it seems plausible tbh
analog frigate
Wasn't there a log were a guy replaced a drill that hit some cretasium and then ...
cretasium doesn't cause such effects
jordy killed himself because of mental trouble
brave schooner
it seems plausible tbh
Same, I think teleporting would be too good.
analog frigate
me and @subtle verge talked about it once
placid beacon
me likes my funny metaphores
brave schooner
Or dreaming of being at a new place
analog frigate
This graph kind of explains what we think:
here's a message referring back to the convo
brave schooner
Truth be told, nothing we see is definitive. All the psychological issues our characters have and the ones this world can cause make it all unreliable.
analog frigate
ah no, we have audio logs with jordy
2 iirc
and then the suicide report
we get an idea of how workers feel
not seeing the sun for half a year
isolated
darkness and depressing stone and metal walls
subtle verge
And only being allowed 20 minutes of 'sunlight therapy' per a psychologist's orders.
analog frigate
yeah
brave schooner
The psychologist told jordy she could give him a pass for 1 hour.
I remember seeing that they were planning on increasing psych evals, mandatory physical exercises 'n stuff, I don't remember reading that they actually went through with those plans
analog frigate
yeah we don't have confirmation on that last part
we can assume but that's still terrible conditions
brave schooner
So, here's a thing.
I assumed, every time we go down for an expedition, we follow the hole that they kept digging downwards and stuff. Why does it look like they drilled through the complex itself in some areas? There's actual metallic rubble around the holes we stop in
analog frigate
we drop down the main shaft but turn in different diections
dull geyser
New thing
Could the nrv probe be to see how much we are turning into a sleeper?
Because the sleepers are anything but reactive
analog frigate
Could the nrv probe be to see how much we are turning into a sleeper?
most likely not but possible
since we constantly get new readings and we basically have the chad theory confirmed
royal finch
chad theory?
analog frigate
we aren't clones but the same people running every mission and doing it successfully
royal finch
OH
oblique venture
gotta say , just recently got into this game and the little tidbits of worldbuilding I am picking up through dialogue and environments is fascinating
i don't have a full understanding of everything since I just started pretty much but I find it pretty cool
oblique venture
was wondering , are you playing some sort of prisoners?
oblique venture
so you didn't actually commit any crimes? I was under the impression you played as some sort of criminals being used for a fucked up experiment
royal finch
Well... bout that...
analog frigate
we are Kovak Special/Security Operatives (KSOs) that were sealed away in HydroStasis Units (HSUs)
analog frigate
Well... bout that...
yeah some did
oblique venture
find it interesting how your character breathes REALLY hard when getting into the match , sounds like you are being put into a sensory deprivation chamber
which is some messed up stuff
royal finch
I mean- we're literally controlled by a neural probe connected to our brains and neurons ig
and thats the top of the iceberg
😂
you're in for a ride
oblique venture
since I have only played with bots so far I actually don't even know who player number 1 is supposed to be anyways
with the other ones I at least got a general idea with their names and whatnot
analog frigate
this game goes very in-depth
oblique venture
but the guy you play as I have no clue about
analog frigate
you play a variation
analog frigate
as either woods, bishop, dauda or hackett
those are the main characters
the 4 that we are and go down
oblique venture
have also been spending quite some time taking a detailed look at the monsters, really cool how they look
steel solar
wait do we (as in prisoners) want to be there?
oblique venture
im guessing not
oblique venture
considering you wear some dirty ragged clothing, being put in a chamber where you gasp for air as you are lowered into a hell maw
found that bit funny too when I read the intel bit
steel solar
wait so why dont they just ,,off,, themselfs
oblique venture
controlled I think
analog frigate
except a correction: schaffer is a KSO
oblique venture
and i doubt they want to die
steel solar
and i doubt they want to die
true
oblique venture
I am guessing that they still got the hopes of getting out of there sometime
analog frigate
they are almost completely controlled by the warden
oblique venture
also word, gonna read that while I wait for a B1 run. I got pretty far solo but bots just walked straight into a big guy and he took 1 swing and killed all 3 of them
analog frigate
as an event described: one of them entered a closet and just stayed there for 6 minutes doing nothing before leaving
oblique venture
almost shat myself when I saw the 2 brutes somehow being completely hidden in the fog until I was sprinting right in front of them
analog frigate
also @subtle verge has been working on a theory about legion
he can explain to you very well what exactly the KSOs appear to be
oblique venture
gonna read the summary as I wait , may as well
subtle verge
Yeh, mostly conjecture and deductive reasoning, but waiting on more concrete information before I remove the tinfoil hat and put it in to the "fuck yeah, I was right" stack.
analog frigate
while i will be gone for a bit to make pasta
oblique venture
seeing as somehow i keep getting booted out of my own matchmaking
that was a quick and sweet read
was curious myself what exactly the complex is
knowing these creatures are aliens explains their outlandish traits and completely inexplicable biology anyways
really love how when you dismember them they will just continue walking as a barely held together pile of meat, adds a lot to the terror
makes me also wonder how hitting them over the head with a melee can instantly kill them but when they are alerted to you popping their head somehow doesn't in some scenarios?
is this tied to their beating heart thing that activates when they detect you?
subtle verge
Ah! One moment...
royal finch
knowing these creatures are aliens explains their outlandish traits and complete...
Well- the humanoid sleepers are mutated humans
:D
oblique venture
so the meteor crashing killed a bunch of humans, makes sense
royal finch
No no no
analog frigate
punk can send the sleeper analysis
analog frigate
ty
oblique venture
thanks punk, brb gonna read it
placid beacon
the sleeper analysis is far better suited to explaining their biology
ye
its a really good read
subtle verge
That is a very in-depth biology report from our local biology expert: Dr Grem (and associates).
royal finch
so the meteor crashing killed a bunch of humans, makes sense
Garganta dug into the meteor by accident, releasing a virus (NAM-V) kept inside of it which caused the mutations, originally they searched for iriidium because the prices of it skyrocketed
oblique venture
ah I see
analog frigate
That is a very in-depth biology report from our local biology expert: Dr Grem (a...
cmon like half of it me and dagga did
but yeah grem did a lot
subtle verge
cmon like half of it me and dagga did
Haha just running with the gag, mate.
oblique venture
a thing about the weapons which I also found interesting
subtle verge
I always appreciate you and your work, Daraxus.
oblique venture
a lot of them seem really impractical and crappy, is that just how they were made to combat the sleepers or are they just not bothered to give prisoners anything decent?
they got this heavy industrial feel to them
subtle verge
SO.. a somewhat TL;DR of that:
placid beacon
@oblique venture latter
subtle verge
They're hand-me-downs from the KSO armaments. The current time-frame is around 2065-2070, by proxy, if we go by the most recent logs that we have (2057).
oblique venture
really love the aesthetic of the weaponry anyway, feels so much more visceral than standard military guns, like this it feels like you are just scrapping with them for your life around every corner, using barely functional weaponry
i see
oblique venture
found it quite interesting then that they dont give you 100% ammo starting off, they give you like half, maybe a little more , just cus they dont really care if that ammunition is lost to you
subtle verge
We theorize that it's no later than 30 years after the world was essentially wiped out by NAM-V.
oblique venture
so the 9.5 billion people alive mentioned in the tldr is not true?
subtle verge
But we guess it's around 2070.
analog frigate
so the 9.5 billion people alive mentioned in the tldr is not true?
that's the time estimate
placid beacon
royal finch
But we guess it's around 2070.
Im pretty sure theres like 25,000 people left alive? 🤔
analog frigate
but only around 25k are alive
subtle verge
The projected world population is 9.5 billion people around the year 2050
Using real-world stats.
royal finch
I want to have a mission outside in a big ruined city crysis 3 style 😂
analog frigate
that would be very nice to have for lore
subtle verge
Im pretty sure theres like 25,000 people left alive? 🤔
Yeah, we theorize that with current social response to Covid, and with NAM-V having an R-naught of 17 versus Covid's 5.7, we theorize that mass extinction 6 has happened, leaving roughly 25-30k people.
Plus or minus.
royal finch
I like to imagine that more oxygen than in garganta made some new mutations, maybe even plant-related, or animal-related 👀
analog frigate
run with both calculations and varying simulations
in the best scenario, within 150 days, 98.7% of humanity is gone
and the rest gone by the end of that year
analog frigate
I like to imagine that more oxygen than in garganta made some new mutations, may...
in mines there is generally less oxygen
mutations are happening due to the sleeper parasite, detailed in the sleeper analysis
also there is the long known theory of nam-v causing it but we haven't been able to definitively prove it yet
analog frigate
that's possible
but we don't know the consequences of such a mass extinction event
we also don't know if nam-v is exclusive to humans
if animals in general also get infected
it's going to be pretty plain up there
placid beacon
sleeper dogs ):
royal finch
but we don't know the consequences of such a mass extinction event
I like to think sleepers had to like, yknow, feed on something so maybe once majority of the humans got infected or died they switched to animals 👀
placid beacon
cannablism perhaps
royal finch
purrhaps
placid beacon
brave schooner
this is a good read <@!200641181745414154>
Dayum, why is this not pinned?
quick grove
Yeah, we theorize that with current social response to Covid, and with NAM-V hav...
So humans are extinct or nah
dim scroll
ye
quick grove
Dang
So what the 4 prisoners are going to be the saviors of humanity or nah
Why collect data
Why do all of this but not try to save humanity
dim scroll
no idea + no idea
we don't know what WRDN protocol is used for
neither who made it & who made BIOCOM execute it
quick grove
So the warden just woke up one day and said right duada hacket bishop and i don't remember the other characters name your just going to be sent down into this abandoned facility to collect data to restart reactors to restore ventilation
It seems pointless
dim scroll
No
oblique venture
pretty sure the warden is an AI? at least thats my understanding of it
an AI that was injected into a system
dim scroll
BIOCOM existed a long while ago
quick grove
I believe the Warden is a person
quick grove
BIOCOM existed a long while ago
What you mean
quick grove
it's an AI
I mean we can't be sure what the warden is
oblique venture
a link to a message
quick grove
What have you made me download
oblique venture
its not a download
dim scroll
It downloads nothing you monkey
oblique venture
you jump to a message
quick grove
For me it is
quick grove
It takes me to a GTFO fax
dim scroll
Bruh
quick grove
Click on it
dim scroll
It leads to this
quick grove
Yeah im on a phone ya big dummy
quick grove
Sos
oblique venture
so true
dim scroll
The Warden is an injected Decision Intelligence (DI) in the BIOCOM system. It's origins are unknown, however the DI allegedly has set parameters to accomplish specific tasks.
Exactly what it's endgoal is remains unknown, however it utilizes the prisoners as fodder to accomplish it's goals by any means necessary. ```Ah
dim scroll
The thing is the WRDN code made BIOCOM go completely crazy
dim scroll
to the point it acts by itself
quick grove
So your telling me this mother fucker got self thought
dim scroll
It's a decision AI
Its sole purpose is to decide whatever is the best decision regarding of the datas it has access to
It doesn't care about saving mankind
quick grove
So it makes decisions based on what's critical
dim scroll
ending it or whatever
quick grove
But then why try to save HSU pods
dim scroll
the only HSU he saved was the baby in R2E1
All of it to extract datas iirc
on other HSUs it's retrieving DNA samples
it doesn't give a shit about the lives within them
cf R4A2 overload
quick grove
DNA samples for what
dim scroll
no idea
quick grove
To make new copys of the 4 prisoners
dim scroll
in R4A2 overload you disable all life supports within the sector
aka disabling all HSUs
quick grove
I belive the prisoner's are clones
quick grove
So what happens if dauda hacket bishop and woods die
Is that it or Does it have more prisoner's
quick grove
Im telling you man human clones
dim scroll
as we're releasing KDS officers
aka more prisoners
There would be no point in releasing them if cloning was a thing
quick grove
Wait releasing KDS officers
dim scroll
R5E1's ending
quick grove
Couldn't get there
dim scroll
all of the HSUs had KDS officers in them
quick grove
Okay
dim scroll
and the command we're inputting is to release them from their HSUs
quick grove
And so the warden just lets them go or nah
dim scroll
we also know there are at least 230 prisoners
quick grove
Jesus
dim scroll
roaming within the complex
quick grove
Roaming
dim scroll
to follow warden's orders of course
quick grove
Working for the warden or against it
dim scroll
aside from schaeffer
dim scroll
This was R5E1's last room
quick grove
Id wonder if the 4 characters would meet him
quick grove
This was R5E1's last room
I saw that in a youtube video had no fucking clue what was going on
So is it possible that the 4 characters might meet schaeffer
dim scroll
who knows
dim scroll
i think he's trying to contact everyone
through logs
definitely
I think R4E1's main objective was to follow him
sorta
quick grove
So wouldn't the warden like send people out to find this dude
dim scroll
R4D2 as well
dim scroll
Warden may not consider schaeffer a threat
quick grove
Damn
quick grove
Well being the only one with memories stuck down under ground for who knows how long and being alone who wouldn't
dim scroll
Not only that
quick grove
Who this mother fucker even surviving without food
quick grove
Not only that
Not only?
dim scroll
He knows much more stuff than we do
quick grove
I would assume so
dim scroll
& he may never be able to go outside the complex
quick grove
Why that
dim scroll
Because warden controls the main elevator
dim scroll
the one we use to dive into levels
quick grove
Wouldn't he just try to hop on and hold on for dear life
quick grove
How
quick grove
Well i don't think woods dauda hacket or bishop will just kill a another human being
dim scroll
it may not think of schaeffer as a threat, but schaeffer trying to escape would be a problem if its main objective is to silent the whole outbreak thing
Sleepers are mostly humans
quick grove
Oh so people don't know about the outbreak
dim scroll
if the first ones may have an alien origin, humans can be infected to become sleepers
quick grove
So sleepers are only underground correct
dim scroll
no idea
quick grove
Ah
dim scroll
we know there is a NAM-V outbreak
placid beacon
we've no idea of the situation above sub-surface
dim scroll
but we don't know if NAM-V is the cause of transformation
quick grove
And NAM-V is the sleeper virus
dim scroll
or if it's only another effect of parasites
placid beacon
its completly plausible that whatever happened in the complex has the potential to effect the wildlife above
dim scroll
or not related to it at all
dim scroll
monke sleeper
placid beacon
fish sleeper
quick grove
Someone did try to warn the world but the mother fucker got abducted by helicopter people
quick grove
money before mankind
And the warden sees data as money
quick grove
No the warden only cares about data
dim scroll
for what purpose ? no idea
dim scroll
maybe to make a NAM-V vaccine because this is the task given to it
quick grove
What is he even going to do with all the data
dim scroll
maybe to exterminate all sleepers
to recover as much data as possible for another project
or anything else
quick grove
maybe to make a NAM-V vaccine because this is the task given to it
So it is trying to save Humanity
dim scroll
if it was to shut the complex down, it could've asked us to simply destroy it
which it didn't
quick grove
Yep
dim scroll
he's not trying to save mankind
quick grove
And it won't because of its programming
quick grove
But up to the 4 characters?
dim scroll
no
quick grove
Bruh
dim scroll
if someone else "above" the warden exists, then it can decide
quick grove
Bruh
dim scroll
we don't know if someone is related to the warden actually
as for now, the only person that's survived the outbreak is schaeffer
everyone else is dead
quick grove
Well we all know the warden is a dude AI
dim scroll
which is kinda weird actually
Like aren't the employees closest to the surface supposed to survive pretty easily ?
quick grove
Well why did the evacuation start
dim scroll
because of outbreak
lol
there is even a lockdown protocol
listed in pins
which included shutting down reactors
the point was to contain the sleepers
quick grove
I would seriously like to see whats beyond the hole before you drop in because there are and i swear catwalks for people to walk on at the surface
quick grove
the point was to contain the sleepers
Point my ass now its trying to collect data
dim scroll
Another thing that's weird is how you always dive at night