#gtfo-lore | GTFO | Page 214

small bobcat Dec 30, 2021, 12:56 PM

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i looked at the virus symptoms from the wiki and saw some similarities

icy swift Dec 30, 2021, 12:57 PM

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it can be a cause but we dont know for sure as there has been no documentation or anything revealed about its long term effects

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yea hence i said stupid theory

small bobcat Dec 30, 2021, 1:00 PM

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from what ive seen, i think people die first before being turned into sleepers (reading up on the symptoms, and some corpses having the head split - seemingly too clean to be killed by sleepers)

icy swift Dec 30, 2021, 1:02 PM

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we think that the original virus/parasite uses humans as hosts and then sleepers are born

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there is a proper theory

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📎 The_Nature_of_Sleepers.docx

small bobcat Dec 30, 2021, 1:03 PM

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shit, a whole ass words document

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kudos, man

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Dr. Grem and Associates worked hard on that one.

small bobcat Dec 30, 2021, 1:09 PM

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you could slap an intro page and the covers on and this could go into the box edition official guide

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 1:11 PM

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I'll leave that to those guys. ihavenofacebutiwillstillscream They will 100% go back to that at some point if/when we get concrete biology reports in canon form.

small bobcat Dec 30, 2021, 1:11 PM

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man it is so good

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 1:13 PM

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I'll go back to my 'Jansen x Gustavo' and 'infection fog' theories when we learn more about those, too. I've been meaning to update my fog theory with counterpoints to my original claim.

small bobcat Dec 30, 2021, 1:15 PM

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nice

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i didnt realize the extent of theorycrafting and lore people go

icy swift Dec 30, 2021, 1:17 PM

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we do have some intense discussions here

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 1:17 PM

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We ~~torture others~~ go back and forth fairly often when something interesting comes up.

icy swift Dec 30, 2021, 1:17 PM

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sadly its out of my timezone ;-;

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Want me to @ you next time? Lmao. Normally these convos happen between 4p-10p my time (CST).

icy swift Dec 30, 2021, 1:27 PM

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subtle verge Want me to @ you next time? Lmao. Normally these convos happen between 4p-10p my...

idm
but i'll be sleeping when that happens so idk how much of a use that is
thanks for the offer thouh

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Ahh, gotcha.

tawdry saddle Dec 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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I have some questions about several logs:

In Rundown 2 there is one big log that consists of several small ones (ingame).
But now I find two more logs on the page https://www.santonianindustries.com/ under Rundown 2.
CRP-991-B.LOG
CRP-991-A.LOG
(Both are not in the wiki).

The contents of these logs are in summary exactly identical to the one from Rundown 5 found in A1.
121UL6.LOG
(This log is in the wiki.)

So: CRP-991-A.LOG + CRP-991-B.LOG = 121UL6.LOG

Why is the log 121UL6.LOG not on the page https://www.santonianindustries.com/ under Rundown 5?
Why are there two new logs much later?

These logs completely confuse me.

SANTONIAN Industries

Homepage of SANTONIAN Industries, strategic investors group.

solar nova Dec 30, 2021, 2:29 PM

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tawdry saddle I have some questions about several logs: In Rundown 2 there is one big log tha...

Weird, but I don't think anyone knows why this is the case. These logs were definitely not in R2.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:31 PM

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that does align with what punk said about distance travelling

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it could be that it's a long distance jump, that bends space and time to cross a large distance

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but then why didn't that happen to humans that traversed?

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:40 PM

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analog frigate but then why didn't that happen to humans that traversed?

Its possible that the environment itself is dangerous to life over time. The plants were there for a week before humans joined up. Durant even noted: "I wouldnt want to be here for more than 5 or 6 hours without protection."

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:40 PM

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the plants aged almost years during the jump

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durant said that he expected they would survive a couple days on the planet

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but they completely died during the jump

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:41 PM

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No, they appeared to have aged that way in the time between the jumps.

icy swift Dec 30, 2021, 2:41 PM

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they died

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Not the jump itself.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:41 PM

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hmm

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Which does iterate a potential time dilation.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:42 PM

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huh

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so that yet again works with your theory

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since gravity and speed can affect time greatly

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to either not age or age extremely

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Which would also go with the current real world theory of faster-than-light (FTL) travel.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:43 PM

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ah that's somewhat correct

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there are different types of FLT

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:44 PM

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That's true.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:44 PM

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but the ones that bend space and time to "teleport" to another location

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:44 PM

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What if that is the point of the quantum tethering? To keep point A and point B within the same time despite the folding of time and space for travel?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:48 PM

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quantum tethering is quantum entanglement

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at least that's the thing that applies to it

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otherwise it's a made up word

solar nova Dec 30, 2021, 2:51 PM

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analog frigate quantum tethering is quantum entanglement

Do we know this?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:52 PM

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not for certain but it's the only thing that sounds related

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tether and entangle are similar words

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:54 PM

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A very basic understanding of how I think it works.

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Note: head canon theory.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:55 PM

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not really

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there is a relation between them

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you jump to the position that you are tethered to

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also that diagram isn't exactly correct

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Well, my thought process is something like...

The tether was there to transport the equipment/plants, after that was done, the tether was cut for safety and power conservation, then the tether is then reapplied when the researchers make their jump. During that tether cut, a large amount of time had passed.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:58 PM

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here's a garbage diagram

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but you get the idea

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 2:59 PM

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A lot easier to understand than mine for sure.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 2:59 PM

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and the tether manages where exactly everything folds and where you will jump to

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Another thing: we don't see any blood on the bodies on red alpha, do we? Just husks of corpses?

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I don't remember; I'm not sure if they've just used the bloody pulp assets or not.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 3:01 PM

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on red alpha there are no corpses or anything iirc

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Hmm... Swear I remember one or two, guess I'm misremembering.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 3:01 PM

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well it's a thing we can check at some point

shut mountain Dec 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Red Alpha is B1 right? That one has a corpse

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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I'm just wondering if there are corpses, if viscous blood is still present on their bodies, or if they're completely new assets that show desiccation.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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shut mountain Red Alpha is B1 right? That one has a corpse

ah yes ty rav

shut mountain Dec 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Just not on site, there is one tucked away on the way to it

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right side when you see the hole in the cave

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 3:03 PM

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hmm

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Ahhh, neat. I'll go take a peek soon.

shut mountain Dec 30, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Ye ye

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It's a not very hard to find, just easily miss-able.

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Cause my idea is: if there is no viscous blood on the corpse but desiccation is present, we can probably determine a timeline.

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Otherwise if it's a reused asset... eh.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 3:04 PM

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i think it's like mummified

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looks kinda like every other body

shut mountain Dec 30, 2021, 3:05 PM

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subtle verge Otherwise if it's a reused asset... eh.

It's re-used asset

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Feck.

shut mountain Dec 30, 2021, 3:05 PM

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It's your santonian corpse that you see laying around in the complex

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But it is there

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Well, that's kind of a bummer, but understood.

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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well it doesn't help us

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sadly

shut mountain Dec 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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So people defo died left and right, could have been the corpse of the guy who was promptly kidnapped by the flying stressballs

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if i recall that log correctly

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head empty rn

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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I'll think more about it while I do my farming run on RS. ihavenofacebutiwillstillscream

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 3:09 PM

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yeah i'll think about it

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have to go get my 2nd vax though

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i'll be back

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Have fun! 2nd shot is where you start hearing Elon Musk's thoughts and seeing the pretty 5G waves in the sky.

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:42 PM

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ok so i just got into gtfo and the lore intrests me. can someone give a chronology of events that have happened?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:43 PM

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vapid prairie ok so i just got into gtfo and the lore intrests me. can someone give a chronolo...

the shortened version?

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:43 PM

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please

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Santonian made an iridium mine in the Chicxulub crater radius, specifically Yucatan, Mexico. at some point they did a scan of the deeper parts and found the meteorite, that they then proceeded to dig to. from it came a virus called NAM-V and the sleepers. after that the virus destroyed the entire world with around maybe 50 thousand people alive. we are KSOs (Kovac Security Operative) that survived due to being in HSUs (HydroStasis Units) which are owned by KDS (Kovac Defense And Security iirc). KDS had a contract with Santonian and that's why they are related

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that's a kind of messy but shortened version

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:51 PM

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but wait why are we refered to as "prisoners"

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:51 PM

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the Warden

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sorry i forgot to write about that

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the BIOCOM is a military DI made by KDS and the US military

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it is currently the Warden since it got taken over and out under a different protocol

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to it we are expendable prisoners

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:53 PM

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so what is santonian after?

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what is so important that they would sacrifice the remenants of humanity?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:54 PM

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originally iridium but then it was to research Red Alpha

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:54 PM

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vapid prairie what is so important that they would sacrifice the remenants of humanity?

that whole thing was an accident

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they didn't know about NAM-V until it was tok late

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:55 PM

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whats red alpha?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:55 PM

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a planet we get transported to

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:55 PM

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ohh

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the one that looks like afghanistan

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:56 PM

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not mars though

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:56 PM

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vapid prairie the one that looks like afghanistan

kinda

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:57 PM

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also isn't iridium that element that made the entire pacific ring of fire detonate in project wingman?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:57 PM

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i think that was just the ballistic missiles

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or i haven't gotten to that part yet

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:58 PM

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so lemme get this straight

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this company

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santionian

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wants the funny rock

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:58 PM

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no

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the found the meteorite by accident

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:58 PM

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hmm

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:59 PM

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they wanted iridium since prices skyrocketed

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 3:59 PM

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so they want the funny element

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then they found something they shouldn't have

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then put 99% of humanity into the forever box

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 3:59 PM

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sorta yeah

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:00 PM

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so then what does the warden want with red alpha?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 4:00 PM

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we don't know what the warden wants

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:01 PM

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and is the wall of flesh lookin mf a mama sleeper

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?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 4:01 PM

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it just sends us on expeditions and we just do them

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 4:01 PM

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vapid prairie and is the wall of flesh lookin mf a mama sleeper

the kraken?

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:01 PM

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yea

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whats his deal?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 4:01 PM

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not currently known

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there are some theories

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that it's the original species of Red Alpha except mutated by the sleeper parasite

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or that those are the original sleepers

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:03 PM

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so the timeline is basically santonian wants the funni element -> finds a funny rock -> the rock is not funny and takes a shit on humanity -> the remenants of humanity go down the big hole and does the wardens bidding

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is that it?

agile plinth Dec 30, 2021, 4:04 PM

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basically

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:04 PM

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are there any promenent theories on what the warden wants?

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perhaps time travel to unfuck earth?

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or something like that?

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or does he just want to go astra militarium and exterminatus red alpha?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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vapid prairie are there any promenent theories on what the warden wants?

nothing proven yet

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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vapid prairie perhaps time travel to unfuck earth?

not known

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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vapid prairie or does he just want to go astra militarium and exterminatus red alpha?

probably not

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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or maybe all 4 prisoners were the ones who were responsible for the entire ordeal and this is their own personal hell

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idk

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im just throwing shit at the wall

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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vapid prairie or maybe all 4 prisoners were the ones who were responsible for the entire ordea...

nope

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there are more prisoners than the main 4

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minimum 232 i believe

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:07 PM

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so has anyone cracked that weird code?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:07 PM

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check the pins

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:07 PM

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the one with the plus and minuses

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:08 PM

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the brainfuck code was figured out by serefim

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:08 PM

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bro how

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:08 PM

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headaches

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we've worked on the code for some time

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but it was figured out a while ago

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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can you send the message id?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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^

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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so thats it?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:09 PM

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that's all we got

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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a command line?

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man

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this is more fucked up than ace combat lore

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and i thought that was fucked up

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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well i've started playing ace combat

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a bit too final fantasy for me

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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i can understand that

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:10 PM

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project wingman is better

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:11 PM

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have you finished pw?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:12 PM

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not yet

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probably on the last stretch though

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anyway

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gtfo lore

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any more questions?

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:14 PM

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actually

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yeah

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if the warden knows what the fuck is going on

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why cant he just tell us outright?

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why would he make us do these chores

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:15 PM

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vapid prairie if the warden knows what the fuck is going on

it doesn't

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and why would it want to tell us anything anyway?

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the more in the dark we are the better

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:16 PM

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also something i find weird is that why dont we have any memories of what we were doing before hydrostasis

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 4:16 PM

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It's speculated that Dauda has something to do with the release of either NAM-V or the Sleepers according to one of his logs, however it is possible that in a fit of pure panic he's just trying to ask for redemption from the gods for his sin(s) in life and believes that their release on the world is due to his sin(s).

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Brains do wonky shit when in fight-or-flight mode.

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:16 PM

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aside from almost dying in expeditions

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:16 PM

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vapid prairie also something i find weird is that why dont we have any memories of what we wer...

HSUs cause memory loss

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:16 PM

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vapid prairie aside from almost dying in expeditions

canonically we never die

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that's the chad theory which is the one that makes the most sense

vapid prairie Dec 30, 2021, 4:17 PM

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subtle verge It's speculated that Dauda has something to do with the release of either NAM-V ...

isn't the religious guy woods?

subtle verge Dec 30, 2021, 4:18 PM

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He's the fanatic, yeah.

icy swift Dec 30, 2021, 4:40 PM

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hes a bit off the rails as well from what we have heard and seen

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 4:50 PM

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what message was deleted just now

ember goblet Dec 30, 2021, 4:50 PM

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this is a little part of my story

📎 4.txt

wild plank Dec 30, 2021, 4:52 PM

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vapid prairie im just throwing shit at the wall

🐒

ember goblet Dec 30, 2021, 5:28 PM

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txt ok? Or word better?

analog frigate Dec 30, 2021, 5:28 PM

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both are ok

ember goblet Dec 30, 2021, 5:28 PM

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👍

dull orchid Dec 30, 2021, 6:52 PM

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which log was this

finite vine Dec 30, 2021, 7:33 PM

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i’ll try to find it

finite vine Dec 30, 2021, 7:38 PM

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dull orchid which log was this

it was BCOM-3ED-0946.LOG

shadow igloo Dec 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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vapid prairie why cant he just tell us outright?

that assumes the warden is sentient. its basically confirmed to be an AI called biocom. it has goals. and it completes those goals by using assets like us. nothing more.

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its not any more aware or intelligent than the pre programed tasks you'd give your computer. its a bit smarter in that it can make informed decisions here and there. but i doubt it can decide to do anything it wasnt told to

leaden dagger Dec 30, 2021, 11:43 PM

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yeah, high doubt of it being sentient

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just advanced

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it would be stupid to make a sentient AI designed for war

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or if it is sentient, its probably got SOME boundaries

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not complete Singularity intelligence

warped wigeon Dec 31, 2021, 12:09 AM

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Are spitters mentioned anywhere in the lore?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 12:28 AM

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leaden dagger yeah, high doubt of it being sentient

completely depends of what you count as sentient

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a DI technically can do almost everything

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you give it a goal and it will do it

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unless it is physically impossible

vernal kayak Dec 31, 2021, 1:11 AM

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wait so
i dont know if this has already been establish but what if all of the mosters are other prisoners who were experimented on or like infected

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 AM

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they aren't prisoners

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just mutated Garganta workers

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at least the humanoid ones

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 1:13 AM

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how did the prisoners become 'prisoners' though, simply because warden picked them up and keeps them in garganta?

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because at least bishop was previously an employee

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 1:14 AM

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they are prisoners because they are utilised by the warden

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but they are just KSOs

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mainly the whole stuck in HSU business is why they can't rebel

vernal kayak Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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oh ok

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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i guess i was asking 'why them?'

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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because they are KSOs

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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happened to be in the hsus warden could deploy?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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and the only ones alive

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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i dont know what a kso is

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Kovac Special Operative

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iirc

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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i see

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so, no random lab techs being thrown at problems before or after we go in?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 1:16 AM

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nope

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specialists

dapper pine Dec 31, 2021, 3:45 AM

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coughs in SCP D-Class

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but actually skilled and with guns

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 3:45 AM

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d-class and the actual scp fireteams are different though

dapper pine Dec 31, 2021, 3:45 AM

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ik

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but pretty much KSO's are treated like D-Class.

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 3:46 AM

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the warden throwing some lab techs at a problem to get information like d-class would be neat though

dapper pine Dec 31, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Disposable.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 3:46 AM

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dapper pine but pretty much KSO's are treated like D-Class.

currently yes

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 3:46 AM

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||fireteams are pretty disposable too||

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 4:09 AM

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I'd like to believe that there are more prisoners getting sent down there, but we're just following the story of these guys, canonically chads to survive everything

ember cave Dec 31, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Yeah there’s bodies of other geared people lying around. would assume it’s prisoners that are in the gear like ours.

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 4:13 AM

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there has to be at least 1 other group though, the ones we run diversions for

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 4:13 AM

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There are other groups, for sure.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 4:13 AM

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small bobcat I'd like to believe that there are more prisoners getting sent down there, but w...

there are since there are missions to clear zones for other purposes

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 4:13 AM

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The exact amount? Not sure, though Daraxus did state around approximate 230 at least.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 4:13 AM

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well

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 4:14 AM

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*In regards to HSUs

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 4:14 AM

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yes

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since KDS Deep

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there are about 1300 KSOs there iirc

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 4:14 AM

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everyone in an hsu is a kso?

ember cave Dec 31, 2021, 4:14 AM

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😂 mostly my bodies in e1

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 4:14 AM

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those are the only ones that are put in HSUs

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 4:15 AM

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why?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 4:15 AM

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HSUs are made by KDS

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so KDS uses them for KSOs

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 4:16 AM

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i saw that there are also random HSUs in the complex but i dunno if people inside are still "alive" or nah

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 4:17 AM

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seems incredibly bizarre to me that an organization just throws people in stasis all over the place and stores them like commodities, but only soldiers?

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 4:17 AM

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i think it cant be that its ALL KSOs

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i remember somewhere that some people also went into stasis to escape the sleepers

ember cave Dec 31, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Took the blue pill huh

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 4:18 AM

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escape the sleepers or the virus

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 4:18 AM

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They had KDS clearance, which would therefore make them KSOs or above in terms of clearance.

ember cave Dec 31, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Sleeps by plants

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 4:20 AM

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either way, it'd make sense that the warden picked out the officers first and foremost

mystic pilot Dec 31, 2021, 4:21 AM

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wouldnt the hsus predate warden?

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or are you saying, from the people in hsus, warden priorities those with combat training

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 4:22 AM

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mystic pilot or are you saying, from the people in hsus, warden priorities those with combat ...

that one yes

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 4:27 AM

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what exactly are the monsters

ember cave Dec 31, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Virus produced from plants? I can’t explain the how the variants work tho cause I have no idea why some came to be

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Sleepers=people? Giants=shaq people? Mothers= Karen’s?

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Current signs point to infected humans.

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HR8ij7DxmU8F-2H4QYqaEnoBQJ1qABHF4l5ml7JTuPI/edit

Google Docs

The Nature of Sleepers

The Nature of Sleepers Table of contents Introduction Anatomy Ecology Behavior Relation to Endemics Infection Results Future Topics Acknowledgements and References. This document is the legal property of the Santonian conglomerate of companies. Any attempt to reproduce, resell or edit this doc...

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Written by Dr Grem, Daraxus, and Dagga. 🙂

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This is moreso a biology report.

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 4:42 AM

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I mean they're def infected humans

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the question is by what

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some sort of ET parasite or a manmade pathogen

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 4:43 AM

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et parasite

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 4:46 AM

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The parasites that came from the meteor in Chicxulub.

ember cave Dec 31, 2021, 4:50 AM

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There’s a log about the plants

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 4:51 AM

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idk what kinda fuckin plants would turn people into john carpenter the thing monsters

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 4:51 AM

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Are you referencing the voice log from R6:B1?

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 4:52 AM

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the kinky kinda plant?

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butyeah iirc there was a snippet talking about how aztec/mayan people also faced the sleeper problem, or similar kinda monster?

ember cave Dec 31, 2021, 5:03 AM

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subtle verge Are you referencing the voice log from R6:B1?

Maybe i thought it was a text log on c2 but I do the pot so my memory isn’t peak

icy swift Dec 31, 2021, 5:04 AM

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small bobcat butyeah iirc there was a snippet talking about how aztec/mayan people also faced...

they did not mention sleeper problem iirc

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 5:05 AM

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i saw some mentioning of "flea demons" or something similar so i made a stretch

icy swift Dec 31, 2021, 5:05 AM

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lemme check

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 5:07 AM

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Oh, it was a reference to 'great plagues'

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'Flea Demons' = viruses.

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 5:08 AM

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oh

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 5:08 AM

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Things you can't necessarily see, but spreads and harms greatly.

small bobcat Dec 31, 2021, 5:08 AM

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darn

shadow igloo Dec 31, 2021, 7:41 AM

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subtle verge 'Flea Demons' = viruses.

Wouldnt flea demons be refrencing the bubonic plauge

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Which was bacteria

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 8:40 AM

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disease in general

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= viruses

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pestilence

flat tiger Dec 31, 2021, 11:08 AM

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demon tick

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 12:17 PM

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It does seem likely though that the Mayans and Aztecs might have faced the Sleepers during their time.

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It did stop though once the Conquistadors showed up according to one of the logs in the game.

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Those guys brought along their own illness that eventually killed those civilisations off.

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 2:48 PM

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shadow igloo Wouldnt flea demons be refrencing the bubonic plauge

"Flea Demons" is a made up term for whatever diseases/illnesses the Mayans faced. There's no recorded use of that term anywhere that I can find.

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But I was also making a generalized statement; viruses, disease, bacteria, etc.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 5:10 PM

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indigo gale It does seem likely though that the Mayans and Aztecs might have faced the Sleep...

they couldn't have

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since the meteorite wasn't dug into

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 5:56 PM

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analog frigate since the meteorite wasn't dug into

there are logs that mention earthquakes uprooting disease and affecting the mayans.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 5:57 PM

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true but i don't see how that would cause sleepers to appear

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NAM-V maybe

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 6:01 PM

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possibly

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 6:21 PM

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subtle verge https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HR8ij7DxmU8F-2H4QYqaEnoBQJ1qABHF4l5ml7JTuPI/...

i suggest you turn off the edit mode because right now anyone can change or delete what you wrote

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:12 PM

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lilac island i suggest you turn off the edit mode because right now anyone can change or dele...

Thanks for the heads up; one of the guys must have forgot to do so. Changed it.

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:16 PM

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finite vine there are logs that mention earthquakes uprooting disease and affecting the maya...

There are quite a few diseases that can happen due to natural disasters. For example, my company requires all strike teams to get vaccines for whatever country we're going to help after a disaster.

Things like malaria, dengue fever, leptospirosis, acute respiratory infections, diarrheal diseases (cholera, typhoid, etc.) and more can be caused by such disasters.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:17 PM

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true but it's odd why they would specifically have that as a log

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it's connected in some way

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Which log is it?

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R5 or R6?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:19 PM

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https://www.notion.so/Where-did-the-Mayans-go-dc3413b0d1b145b2bfe84819bb2d75fb

Chase's Notion on Notion

Where did the Mayans go?

Mambo Media Services search query
Keywords: virus, Mayan, Maya, historic, flea
6,724,158 results returned. Filtered by relevance:

“Where did the Mayans go?” - Our Earth magazine 9/25/43

A new theory regarding the sudden demise of Mayan culture has been presented
by Dr. Yvette Hernandez at the Anthropology Forum convention. Dr. Hernandez’s
res...

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R5

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Hmm... not sure why it would be there, especially when it's dated at Sept. 25, 2043.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:20 PM

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yeah

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that's a bit early

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also flea demons makes sense

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since NAM-V is spread by parasites

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it could be referring to that

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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So it's a database search, obviously, like you or I would use Google. I wonder if whoever is searching is looking in to how the bubonic plague spread, or other diseases caused by fleas.

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Or, rather, carried by them.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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yes

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:22 PM

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And how it could correlate to NAM-V.

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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so gtfo is basically the Last of Us and Doom combined?

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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I can see certain comparisons, I guess?

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But nothing really substantial.

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Who is da Warden

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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military DI

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Is it like GLaDos? 🤔

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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The Warden is a military DI.

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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or is it a peron

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person

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mmm

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:23 PM

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the BIOCOM under a different protocol

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Like GLaDos, but no sentience (that we know of).

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Are there only 4 prisoners?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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again, depends what you count as sentience

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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lilac island Are there only 4 prisoners?

at least 230

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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analog frigate again, depends what you count as sentience

This, too.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:24 PM

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it can make decisions

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plan

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Maybe there is a prisoner supply issue, since on the game it says prisoner is recommended for retirement but its always override 🤔

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:25 PM

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there isn't

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we released around 1300 (iirc) in KDS Deep

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well

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not released

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but gave to the warden

lilac island Dec 31, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Furthermore, the apparel give robotic limbs now further pointing to Prisoner Supply issue 😎

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:26 PM

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there is no possible prisoner supply issue

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there just are too many KSOs

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Apparel isn't really canon outside of the general description of attire.

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Class B facemasks and Class D clothing.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:28 PM

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well it's no longer class d hazmat clothing

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iirc they wear an almost full body suit

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kinda class c level

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:32 PM

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It's standard military-like attire; boots and gloves don't look like they're made of chemical resistant material.

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I guess the masks would be C level, since they aren't self-contained breathing apparati.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:33 PM

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they are class c

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:35 PM

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By CDC standard, they're wearing Class D attire w/ Class C masks.

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A class C hazmat suit is chemical resistant, taped at the cuffs for hand/arm and feet/leg protection.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:36 PM

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true

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Like I said before, hazmat is my IRL territory. Lmao.

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Then again -- this is sci-fi at heart, there could be some crazy cool military gear that is technically class C by that year.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:38 PM

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possibly but it does just look like regular clothing

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:39 PM

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I do know of a company that is working on integrating class-C material in to standard military attire, but they've not really made a big breakthrough with the tech yet.

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It's incredibly expensive.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:40 PM

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well KDS is one of the richest companies on earth

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:40 PM

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That is true.

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Full self-contained mech suits.

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Make it canon.

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:43 PM

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subtle verge The Warden is a military DI.

I mean, a person/Ai/whatever that took over Biocom to reach it's/his/her own goals is different from what you said technically. the warden can be anything that can interact with a computer really ^^

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:44 PM

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although everything points to it being an AI

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there isn't anyone that can actually operate it

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since almost everyone is deceased or some are alive but in extremely isolated locations e.g. antarctica, the ISS (if that exists, probably does) ect

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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yeah but even then there has to be someone that programmed the warden, AIs don't just radomly decide to take over super secret military DIs for fun

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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it doesn't appear that an AI took over

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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Part of me wonders if there is someone operating The Warden at a base level, but allowing The Warden to do a variation of Machine Learning to be able to make snap decisions on the fly.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:47 PM

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someone uploaded the other protocol

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but when?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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subtle verge Part of me wonders if there is someone operating The Warden at a base level, but...

could be but we can't really know

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:48 PM

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analog frigate it doesn't appear that an AI took over

ok you lost me, didn't you just say its most likely an AI?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:49 PM

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it is the BIOCOM under a different protocol

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:49 PM

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yeah

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:49 PM

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a person uploaded the warden protocol

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no AI took over

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it only got sort of switched

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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oh ok yeah, meant the same thing mb ^^

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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the DI reprogrammed

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:50 PM

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harsh saffron oh ok yeah, meant the same thing mb ^^

it's aight

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:51 PM

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did you read the log where the wrdn apparently tested when it could get away with?

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 7:51 PM

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analog frigate there isn't anyone that can actually operate it

there is really no proof of the warden just being an AI with no human interaction or intervention.

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its probably an AI supervised by scientists.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:52 PM

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who can operate it

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there really doesn't appear to be anyone

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 7:52 PM

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people that used to work in garganta

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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they are either dead from sleepers or by NAM-V

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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no proof of that

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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and they would have to be protected by a KSO

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:53 PM

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finite vine no proof of that

most likely

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i'm speaking theoretically

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:54 PM

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harsh saffron did you read the log where the wrdn apparently tested when it could get away wit...

📎 WRDND3.txt

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 7:54 PM

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i get that, but we dont even know if NAM-V spread around the entire world

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:55 PM

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seeing the hospital logs and general outside activity, it definitely has

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then using the NAM-V analysis we can determine how detrimental it was to humanity

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:56 PM

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harsh saffron

hmm

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how have they not noticed that the warden was installed?

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

Tenor

hackerman

▶ Play video

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:56 PM

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still, it gave an output log

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from that you will see another process being initialised

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Woah that's interesting.

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:57 PM

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idk maybe it only gives out these logs when somebody requets them and the person just took over in the middle of the night and deleted every trace?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:57 PM

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nope

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unless the person who programmed the BIOCOM is a dumbass

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and made it specifically not give output and diagnostic logs

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Wait, wait, wait, I'm trying to understand what it means by: It went to a storage closet, unlocked the door, waited for 6 minutes inside the closet, then returned to the environment tech and continued with the original stack.

As in... the KSO went to the closet, just stood there for 6 minutes, then came back?

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WAIT I'M DUMB.

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It's probably talking about one of the robots we've seen.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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probably

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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nope thats an kso

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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interesting

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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they talk about them like that all the time

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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which level was this log on

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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durant even says: "they are robots"

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 7:59 PM

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finite vine which level was this log on

d3

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 8:00 PM

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harsh saffron durant even says: "they are robots"

wow asshole

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Huh... but... why would a human KSO just stand there for 6 minutes? Unless KSOs lose all sentient thought outside of directives?

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 8:00 PM

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subtle verge Huh... but... why would a human KSO just stand there for 6 minutes? Unless KSOs ...

mental trauma possibly

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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I think marcus is right in his assumption, biocom/wrdn added that objective for them

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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It reminds me of the Warhammer universe where criminals get mind-wiped and turned in to thralls that do nothing but follow orders.

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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aka tested what they could get away with

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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But their mentality is still trapped in their mind; they know what's happening, they still think and feel and see, but they have no control over their bodies kind of thing.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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subtle verge It reminds me of the Warhammer universe where criminals get mind-wiped and turne...

well most KSOs are criminals

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at least appear to be

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:01 PM

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This is interesting...

finite vine Dec 31, 2021, 8:03 PM

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its actually weird that humans would act like robots and just follow orders without question, even an order that's like "go to the closet for 6 min"

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I know they literally live in hsu pods and have no memory of their past life, but that is still odd.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 8:03 PM

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probably something related to the memory loss side effect of the HSUs

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or some kind of control using the neural cortexes

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:04 PM

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and drugs

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 8:05 PM

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a lot of drugs for sure

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Btw big f in the chat for Andrew Clinton who died in "tragic events" a few months after aggressively telling kds to fuck off, because they killed someone from SMC thenboom

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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big oof

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f

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ngl andrew and bishop both knew what ppl they were dealing with and they still go ahead and try to get themselves killed

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:14 PM

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What was the other game I was thinking of... SOMA, I think? Where they can transfer minds from human to hard drive to pilot robots?

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They used a lot of drugs and scifi-like tropes to transfer sentience, iirc.

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Idk, kinda' gives me those vibes.

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Man, now I'm curious if the drug thing could be real, because if they are it'd have to be some pretty heavy endorphin of some kind.

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Applying the tinfoil hat here: but what if that was the point of Project Legion / Rise Project?

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:25 PM

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subtle verge Applying the tinfoil hat here: but what if that was the point of Project Legion ...

Rise* Project smh FingerGuns

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Rise* thank you.

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I was thinking of the private WoW server for some reason idk.

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I mean, the name fits, right? "Project Legion" ... create a private military of individuals who follow every order without any additional thought?

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:26 PM

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I just assumed the rise thing is related to the teleportation stuff, since its mentioned at the time time (I think) and KSOs are send along with the expeditions

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and they obviously have separate commands instead of "keep the scientists alive"

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:27 PM

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subtle verge I mean, the name fits, right? "Project Legion" ... create a private military of ...

indeed

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:29 PM

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harsh saffron and they obviously have separate commands instead of "keep the scientists alive"

Maybe it's something along the lines of a "priority list" right? Like... think of games that give you optional objectives on top of main objective.


Optional: Keep the scientists alive.```

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Or it could just be a front/test to see how effective they are in certain scenarios?

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:30 PM

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maybe also that yeah

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Something to keep in mind, I suppose.

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:31 PM

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subtle verge Maybe it's something along the lines of a "priority list" right? Like... think o...

This is Dr. James Durant. This may be my last entry from EF01. Only myself, Alice and all of the security officers are still alive; and I’m fairly sure that our survival is not their primary objective. They are protecting the data first, then us.
[...]
He just repeats his objective: Explore and cover as much ground as possible and wait until Control instantiates a Matter Wave for our return.

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so yeah exactly what you said ^^

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:31 PM

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HMMMMM...

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It would make sense, I think, in the grand scheme. Project Legion is just creating a private army for the largest private security company in the world, whether to use for their own personal gain or for mercenary work. They follow their own objectives without so much as fearing the risks or a second thought.

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Make more money, attain more global presence/power...

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Okay, before I go off on tinfoil hat theories, I'm taking it off.

harsh saffron Dec 31, 2021, 8:33 PM

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😄

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im sure we will be flooded with more than enough logs when the expansion drops. some of them are bound to tell us more about the rise project
(for reference: we had 15 logs in R5 and 27 in the expansion)

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and we already have more than 15 logs in r6

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I AM SO INVESTED.

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Lore, to me, is like crack.

agile plinth Dec 31, 2021, 8:37 PM

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imagine for me

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 8:38 PM

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agile plinth imagine for me

I can't imagine you on crack tbh. You're so mellow. Lmfao.

agile plinth Dec 31, 2021, 8:38 PM

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heh

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 9:16 PM

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analog frigate since NAM-V is spread by parasites

Yeah, it definitely does make sense.

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Which could also explain that other log that's about the excavation process and how they dug into a chamber that was filled to the brim with Sleepers.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 9:46 PM

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indigo gale Which could also explain that other log that's about the excavation process and ...

could you send that one?

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 9:59 PM

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analog frigate could you send that one?

It was log BCOM-3ED-0946.LOG.

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And here it is in its entirety: "Well fuck me, you called it Art.

What the hell just happened? The entire place shut down on us. Gianna said the mole broke through some kind of barrier. She noped the fuck out of there and told Insight to go and investigate it. Not that I’d call her a reliable source anymore. 4 of her team have bit it in the last 3 years, so… yeah. It doesn’t take much for her to GTFO.

So Insight charges in (FUCK THOSE GUYS) and clears the area. As per we don’t hear shit from them. I’ve got a 300 strong workforce all looking at their Pit Boss waiting for an order, only I know as much as they do so fuck me, right? Then I remembered that backdoor you told me about, so a bit of rewiring here, a cable patch there and…I had a listen. DON’T PANIC. I was careful. Used up all my knowledge from CS studies in community college.

Anyway, I didn’t understand a lot of what the nerds were talking about but I did get that they sent a probe in to inspect the chamber. They’ve got KSOs holding off Sleepers left and right but they’re keeping it held down then suddenly BOOM. I know you must have felt it. We were topside and we felt it. Honestly, I thought the walls were going to collapse and we’d all be drowned then I remembered I built them so NAH WE GOOD.

I don’t know what it was though. Some kind of energy blast that fucked up anything in its path and left behind these molten passages. Like shit isn’t mad enough already on this job, now we got laser beams shooting at us.

Fucken. Nutz.

They’ve told us we’re all getting a week off while they figure out “the issue”. I know I’m gonna lose some people over this. They’ll risk the Kovac perimeter rather than go back down there.

Fuck this. Fuck them. Fuck you. Only not you. See you in Chix for stogie.

Shafe."

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Interestingly, at the start and the end of this particular log, it notes that this was an "illicit" email.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 10:01 PM

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oh that schaeffer log

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Yep.

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That, to me at least, says that they broke into some kind of underground chamber that had been there for who knows how long and there were already Sleepers inside that the Insight guys ran into.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 10:05 PM

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sounds like it

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Also, wonder what it was that exploded down there, considering it was so strong that they felt it all the way up at the surface.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 10:08 PM

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there was a theory about that explosion causing the main shaft to exist

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or at least the sides to be curved up

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not sure though

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 10:08 PM

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That'd make sense.

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It'd save them a lot of time, money and effort to make one themselves.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 10:08 PM

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that's if the explosion was on purpose

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Yeah, like some really powerful nuke-like device or something.

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It'd be pretty terrifying though if it was something else, like some kind of giant creature.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 10:10 PM

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well the kraken exists

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it's full capabilities are unknown

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as well as if there are any other creatures that are more powerful than it

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we'll most likely find out in the expansion

indigo gale Dec 31, 2021, 10:12 PM

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I've seen some glimpses of this Kraken in the trailer and such, looks pretty terrifying.

analog frigate Dec 31, 2021, 10:12 PM

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oh you'll see it very close up

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c1 is a glimpse

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then d1 is where the fun begins

subtle verge Dec 31, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Spoiler free spoiler:

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https://tenor.com/view/تطبيل-funny-underwater-drums-dceu-gif-17801434

Tenor

grave finch Dec 31, 2021, 10:48 PM

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I stopped playing back in Rundown 3 since my PC wasn't good, what's happened so far? Has the baby returned?

graceful lotus Dec 31, 2021, 11:09 PM

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I think so

hot burrow Dec 31, 2021, 11:11 PM

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The neonate has not made a return yet

indigo gale Jan 1, 2022, 12:04 AM

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Things are getting crazier though, that's for sure.

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 1:39 AM

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Btw: Happy New Year to all of my Lore-folk! ❤️

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It's still 19:39 for me, but still.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 1:57 AM

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subtle verge Btw: Happy New Year to all of my Lore-folk! ❤️

happy new year!

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it's 4am here

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2022 is exactly like 2021

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:00 AM

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Shitty, snowy, and full of pestilence and discontent?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:01 AM

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dry, freezing and boring

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:12 AM

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Ayy

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:13 AM

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well

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not that boring since this chat exists

pure crown Jan 1, 2022, 2:14 AM

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thonker

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:14 AM

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True. I've been thinking more on that KSO theory from earlier while grinding Runescape quests.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:17 AM

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kinda the same except exploring in elite dangerous

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but also about how the whole travelling to red alpha works

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and i've finally not slept enough to see scaler online again

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Who

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:22 AM

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Professor Scaler

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:22 AM

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And I'm very on board with the "fold time and space" theory.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:22 AM

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yeah i really think it's what is happening

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makes the most sense

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:23 AM

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From a physics standpoint, 100%.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:23 AM

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i'll probably start writing it but it's gonna be difficult to describe in a way where people not familiar with it will understand

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:23 AM

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And I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with Professor Scaler; assuming a YT GTFO creator?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:23 AM

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yes

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very well known at that

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:23 AM

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I'll look into his stuff.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:23 AM

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also him and chase are the most well known in terms of lore

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:24 AM

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I'll be honest: only thing I know about Chase is that he and Infinite Duck run the Wiki like chads.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:24 AM

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and he made a timeline

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scaler also has one but kinda outdated

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:25 AM

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OH, right, the timeline as well.

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I haven't had the pleasure of talking to Chase yet, but maybe sometime soon!

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:25 AM

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maybe

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:39 AM

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Also, hoping with all of the massive exposure that GTFO has gotten lately, we'll get some more lore folks in here. ihavenofacebutiwillstillscream

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:39 AM

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yeah

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i think igp uploaded a video like today

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:40 AM

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Yeah, so did FrankieOnPC and PsychoGhost.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 2:40 AM

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and there probably will be more large content creators that will make videos

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gtfo deserves the attention

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 2:41 AM

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1,000,000% agreed.

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 3:08 AM

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subtle verge https://tenor.com/view/%D8%AA%D8%B7%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%84-funny-underwater-drums-dce...

badoombadoobadoom

raw island Jan 1, 2022, 5:36 AM

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I love this game. The first time I set foot in D1, the darkness was oppressive. It was really claustrophobic, I could sense the weight of the complex crushing down on us.

icy swift Jan 1, 2022, 5:56 AM

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darkness is just annoying at this point now

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but ye

dull orchid Jan 1, 2022, 5:57 AM

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ye super annoying

shadow igloo Jan 1, 2022, 6:08 AM

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the first D1 was something else

graceful lotus Jan 1, 2022, 6:31 AM

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R4D2 moments

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 6:35 AM

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Those pumps in R6D3 semi-confirming my biofuel theory tho

raw island Jan 1, 2022, 6:45 AM

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icy swift darkness is just annoying at this point now

Oh yeah definitely wore out it’s welcome quickly, but it effectively stresses me out!

icy swift Jan 1, 2022, 7:28 AM

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subtle verge Those pumps in R6D3 semi-confirming my biofuel theory tho

grats

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 7:30 AM

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icy swift grats

Sorry, that was partial sarcasm in regards to the conversation in chat. Sake brings out the sarcasm in me.

icy swift Jan 1, 2022, 7:30 AM

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ah no worries

ember goblet Jan 1, 2022, 8:55 AM

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DLK-HGTR-9 (Found in R6D3) ... this log file occurs on gtfo fandom 3x with different content. Something is not right there.

harsh saffron Jan 1, 2022, 9:18 AM

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ember goblet DLK-HGTR-9 (Found in R6D3) ... this log file occurs on gtfo fandom 3x with diffe...

thx, fixed it 👍

ember goblet Jan 1, 2022, 9:47 AM

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EBDT_5N7V-110.LOG (found in R3B1) - wrong date

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523_PS-778.LOG (Found in R6A1) - Where does the name of the log come from? On checking we could not find any name except USE-ASR-013

harsh saffron Jan 1, 2022, 9:55 AM

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actually no idea where that name comes from

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 9:57 AM

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So here's my question

Is there any kind of timeline for what's going on in the facility?

I've looked at the conversation earlier in this channel but it doesn't add up

Santonian starting to excavate the crater for iridium makes sense. Eventually finding something in their mining does too

But the timeline behind the sleepers and viral disease doesn't

If it was present in the crater and was a problem I doubt they would have also started research on stargates and been setting up humongous labs to study lifeforms from red alpha

In my opinion the timeline only works if the outbreak happened after a few jumps had been made

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And is Earth actually completely fucked?

If that was the case why are scrawny prisoners in burlap being used instead of navy seals in power armor?

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This reeks of cost cutting, not desperation.

harsh saffron Jan 1, 2022, 10:41 AM

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hexed tulip And is Earth actually completely fucked? If that was the case why are scrawny p...

I'm pretty sure the rest of the world doesn't even know of the sleepers. We have a log from the 20th of April 2057 that explains that the WHO has dispatched a team to search for the origins of the virus and even they don't even know that Garganta exists at all, they just send them in the general direction of where it is located. That team could be better equipped than the players are, but even then they don't know what is waiting for them at the bottom of the elevator.

harsh saffron Jan 1, 2022, 10:58 AM

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hexed tulip So here's my question Is there any kind of timeline for what's going on in the...

As for actual timelines: We have one by chase
https://www.notion.so/GTFO-Lore-Database-94aac69799e14948b3f9f418761c6cd0
and one by Professor Scaler
https://www.sutori.com/en/story/gtfo-timeline--nvae3E7n3mFVRFR4or4pyXrq

Chase's Notion on Notion

GTFO Lore Database

By ChaseTug

Sutori

GTFO Timeline

A Work In Progress Timeline For GTFO Lore Logs. (R5) - December 19th, 2027 Janson D. talking to Dean L. about a "friend" who is "hoping" to visit Valencia soon. This person is confirmed to be Frank Bishop himself. (R5) - January 25th, 2028 Dean L. responding to Janson D. about Bishop arriving in Valencia as well as the civil unrest rising in Val...

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 11:58 AM

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hexed tulip And is Earth actually completely fucked? If that was the case why are scrawny p...

yes, there are less than 50 thousand people alive by estimates

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the only people alive are KSOs that survived by being sealed off from the world in HSUs

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they only use commercial KDS gear they can scavenge

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 12:00 PM

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hexed tulip This reeks of cost cutting, not desperation.

there isn't any price because money is no longer a thing

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it's about doing what the warden wants

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 12:00 PM

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harsh saffron I'm pretty sure the rest of the world doesn't even know of the sleepers. We have...

yeah iirc that's why santonian got a contract with KDS to keep garganta secure and a secret

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any team that isn't made of prisoners is going to be better equipped but not experienced at all

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the prisoners have been doing this successfully since r1

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 12:09 PM

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hexed tulip So here's my question Is there any kind of timeline for what's going on in the...

also NAM-V started spreading a bit before the sleepers (probably the parasites moved further up the surface). after that the sleepers came when they started digging into the meteorite

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jumps only occurred after they found the crystals in the meteorite

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when that was is currently unknown

fluid kraken Jan 1, 2022, 3:28 PM

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So how exactly did the sleepers show up within the complex?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 3:29 PM

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the humanoid ones came out of the meteorite

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and mutated from the workers there

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Interesting. Why haven't the player characters succumb to nam-v?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 3:31 PM

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the HSUs cause hibernation which stop the virus from spreading within the body

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they effectively make you dead

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 3:35 PM

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Ah, so it's stretching out the time we have left

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 3:35 PM

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yes

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Is there evidence that the Warden is self aware or is it mindlessly carrying out plugged in orders

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 3:48 PM

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it's a military DI

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the BIOCOM under a different protocol

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it decides what to do to achieve a given task

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although there are theories that it receives human given tasks

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 4:59 PM

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But is it sapient

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Also

Do the prisoners get any form of rest, healing or nourishment while in HSUs?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:02 PM

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rest for sure, healing probably, nourishment most likely

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but there is no concrete evidence

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we can only use logic to determine it

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:05 PM

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I'm thinking is all. There's sort of a catch 22

If they can be healed from bodily wounds and recieve rest, that would imply that available medical tech is really advanced

If that were the case they would be able to treat the symptoms of namv or cure it

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:05 PM

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not cure

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but definitely delay the transformation with HSUs

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:05 PM

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currently it's not known to be able to cure NAM-V

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nothing can cure it for now

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:06 PM

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dim scroll but definitely delay the transformation with HSUs

yeah

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also the tech is really advanced, it's around 2050 and it was made by the richest company on earth

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one of the richest at least

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:07 PM

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If they can do that with hsu's while reparing the prisoners bodies...

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I mean if they just froze you in the state you were put in, and we consider the lengths of all the rundowns canon, the prisoners would have not effectively slept for like what, 3+ days while doing strenuous, demanding work along with bearing the shock of being revived

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The drugs they're put on would mitigate this but their endocrine and vascular systems would 100% collapse unless they could be directly repaired somehow

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Oh, do we know what made the hole we dropped down?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:16 PM

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the main shaft

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Looks more like something came out in most maps

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:17 PM

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we still drop down the main shaft

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we just turn to go to other areas

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:17 PM

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They just sorta leave that open?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:17 PM

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i don't see how they would close it

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it's the main shaft to the mine

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:18 PM

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You'd think they'd've built an elevator in it

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:18 PM

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basically just a big access tunnel going down

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they have

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we are on it

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:18 PM

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I know about the winch drop but that's... A hell of a way to go down there. You'd think that they'd have made a big ol' industrial elevator to allow much larger volume of materials

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:18 PM

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normally it would be able to carry more personnel but it carries 4 HSUs currently

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:18 PM

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Ohhh

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:19 PM

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hexed tulip I know about the winch drop but that's... A hell of a way to go down there. You...

i know i've had a rant and a headache about how the elevator makes no sense

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the speed does

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but like

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it doesn't feel right

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:19 PM

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Just seems more like an emergency measure from how it looks

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Like, it's a mine

You'd have tons and tons and tons of rock coming out of that thing every hour of every day especially for its size

I know they added more to the facility as time went on but you'd still need a lot of stuff going back and forth!

Why only one entrance for instance?

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Unless of course this is just where we end up

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:21 PM

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almost every mine, even the bigger ones, only have 1 main shaft

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there are ore chutes

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but they still go down

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and then the ore has to go through the main shaft

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:22 PM

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Fair, fair

Here's another thing - why do the prisoners get such shitty gear if we're like, one of the last hopes of the race?

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I mean, burlap and gas masks that don't really work

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:22 PM

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because we can only have scavenged KDS commercial gear

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there is no economy, shops or military

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only KSOs left with whatever gear they can get

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:23 PM

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I just wonder if the Warden or anyone in charge has any actual plans to save humanity

If we can synthesize a cure we'd need to worry about genetic diversity

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:24 PM

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we don't know what the warden wants yet

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:24 PM

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Warden doesn't give a shit about mankind for sure

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:24 PM

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and there also isn't anyone in charge except it anymore

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:24 PM

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It'd be screwed up and awesome if someone left the warden on "corporate clean up" mode and it's pointlessly doing all these missions for the nonsensical purpose of covering up evidence while giving the nonexistent santonian corpo an out

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:24 PM

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they're either dead or natives in greenland or something

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:25 PM

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hexed tulip It'd be screwed up and awesome if someone left the warden on "corporate clean up...

not very likely

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:27 PM

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But yeah. If a cure is made, what then

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:27 PM

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who can make it

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the KSOs can't do it unless the warden tells them to

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schaeffer isn't qualified and is insane

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every organisation is gone and all specialists dead from NAM-V

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:28 PM

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I mean the warden is having us collect samples

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:28 PM

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there isn't anyone known that could have a chance at making a cure

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:28 PM

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hexed tulip I mean the warden is having us collect samples

true but for what

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:28 PM

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analog frigate true but for what

What else?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:28 PM

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the warden's goals remain unknown

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:29 PM

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Why else would it want it

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:29 PM

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general information about sleepers

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also sleepers aren't related to NAM-V as far as we know

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they are separate things

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:30 PM

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are they ?

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 5:30 PM

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Indeed they are.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:30 PM

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there are theories that they could be connected

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:30 PM

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I know that. I like to think that nam-v is a factor but it doesn't make people into sleepers

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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Wasn't there a log from a doc about patients transforming ?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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also some unrelated ones that could indirectly prove that they are or not

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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Although it isn't explicitly mentioned, it wouldn't be a weird thing to link that & NAM-V

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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It might try but it can't effectively do it and just kills people

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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Especially when NAM-V became a pandemic

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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dim scroll Wasn't there a log from a doc about patients transforming ?

that didn't mention NAM-V in any way

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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dim scroll Although it isn't explicitly mentioned, it wouldn't be a weird thing to link tha...

which is why i said that

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:31 PM

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the virus' long term effects are unknown

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well try to link them

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:32 PM

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Craziness fo sho

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:32 PM

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if this is managed to be proven that would be very good

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and extremely confusing

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:33 PM

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There is a book series I love called The Strain

It has an alternative take on vampires. They're caused by virus infected blood worms

In short, the virus changes the biology and the worms reshape the organs and tissue

What if nam-v tries to do the genetic restructure without the sleeper parasites to do the... "body work"

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:34 PM

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that's a different theory

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sleepers are caused by parasites yes

hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 5:37 PM

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What do we know about red alpha

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:38 PM

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not that much

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it's a planet we can bend spacetime to reach using the crystals

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currently unknown if it's within out universe or another

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 5:38 PM

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And it has a breathable atmosphere and it looks like the Saharan desert.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:39 PM

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somewhat breathable

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there is no vegetation

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 5:39 PM

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I wouldn't want to be there for very long.

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:39 PM

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the only known life form is the sleeper species

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:39 PM

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we know there is water tho

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:40 PM

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do we?

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:40 PM

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yes, in C1

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:40 PM

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don't remember durant mentioning that

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:40 PM

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dim scroll yes, in C1

where exactly

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:40 PM

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When you get teleported you can see there is water on the ground

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:40 PM

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ooh

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right

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yeah and there most likely are polar caps

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gravity and magnetic fields are unknown

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most of the star system is unknown

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 5:41 PM

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Gravity is similar to earth's it seems

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 5:41 PM

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yeah jumping is about equivalent

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it's basically a rocky desert planet, barren of almost all life

signal pelican Jan 1, 2022, 5:44 PM

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like my DMs

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 5:45 PM

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hexed tulip Jan 1, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Just gotta go there on a clear night and map the stars

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:16 PM

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analog frigate it's basically a rocky desert planet, barren of almost all life

I thought it was Africa

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NO REALLY I THOUGHT WE TELEPORTED TO AFRICA

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 8:22 PM

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actually?

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@wild plank did you actually?

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:31 PM

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Yes

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:31 PM

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analog frigate <@!500389755108982784> did you actually?

I thought we were like, on the SURFACE...

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and I didn't know where else it could be but Africa... because, y'know, the sahara...

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 8:32 PM

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why would they lose signal

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if they travelled to africa

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:32 PM

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Out of signal range?

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Maybe?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 8:32 PM

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it's literally one of the richest companies

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and they wouldn't be able to detect a signal

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coming from the same planet

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:34 PM

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This WASN'T VERY WELL THOUGHT THROUGH

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"ah yes desert, this must be AFRICA"
that was the extent of my thought process

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 8:35 PM

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Sweating

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how?

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:36 PM

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I DON'T KNOW

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I saw the corpses during the flash in A1 where you pick up the thingy

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I thought Alpha Two might've been an outpost in... Africa.. for whatever reason...
Never MIND the weird black crystal monoliths

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 8:38 PM

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never mind the hours of conversation about how you teleport to the planet

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:39 PM

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yeah I haven't been looking through the loar much recently 😅

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Also I haven't gotten past C1... soooo...

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:P

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 8:39 PM

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wild plank Also I haven't gotten past C1... soooo...

myexpeditionbesofine

harsh saffron Jan 1, 2022, 8:40 PM

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plane tickets to Africa became rly expensive in 2050, so they had to build teleporters to get there without burning their whole budget 🙂

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:40 PM

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analog frigate <:myexpeditionbesofine:765123726605811713>

thenboom

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:40 PM

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harsh saffron plane tickets to Africa became rly expensive in 2050, so they had to build telep...

yes

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of course

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 8:40 PM

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harsh saffron plane tickets to Africa became rly expensive in 2050, so they had to build telep...

ah yes bend spacetime to travel to africa

harsh saffron Jan 1, 2022, 8:40 PM

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yup 🙂

wild plank Jan 1, 2022, 8:40 PM

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now if you'll excuse me

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🍶

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My brain is melt

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all my cells gone

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 9:48 PM

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NAM-V causing all those brain melting problems, eh?

tiny vapor Jan 1, 2022, 10:03 PM

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I've figured it out. The creatures are caused by a virus that just wants to vibe. That's why they just hang out all the time. They're vibing and we are ruining it.

dim scroll Jan 1, 2022, 11:48 PM

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what is that structure behind ?

analog frigate Jan 1, 2022, 11:48 PM

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hill

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 11:49 PM

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That is definitely a hill.

minor saffron Jan 1, 2022, 11:50 PM

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Skybox

subtle verge Jan 1, 2022, 11:50 PM

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Some might even say: elevation, or rise, or hillock.

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If you're a Jedi, perhaps you'd call it: "It's over Anakin, I have the high ground."

pastel knot Jan 2, 2022, 12:16 AM

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rock

wild plank Jan 2, 2022, 12:22 AM

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Ah yes, THE AFRICAN LANDSCAPE

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 12:22 AM

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wild plank Ah yes, *THE AFRICAN LANDSCAPE*

HackettThreat

subtle verge Jan 2, 2022, 12:22 AM

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wild plank Jan 2, 2022, 12:23 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/triggered-earthbound-gif-9657775

Tenor

dapper pine Jan 2, 2022, 1:18 AM

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wild plank "ah yes desert, this must be AFRICA" that was the extent of my thought process

better be hopin for some rain down there in "Africa"

wild plank Jan 2, 2022, 2:34 AM

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Let's hope so

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 2:34 AM

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well there are clouds

wild plank Jan 2, 2022, 2:35 AM

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https://c.tenor.com/2zN1kAgZoOwAAAAC/geforce-sucks.gif

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look familiar?

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 2:36 AM

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wild plank Jan 2, 2022, 2:37 AM

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subtle verge Jan 2, 2022, 2:41 AM

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slow zinc Jan 2, 2022, 5:30 AM

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Just realized, I believe the warden is a rogue virus or AI that infected BIOCOM and is doing something with us in garganta

subtle verge Jan 2, 2022, 5:31 AM

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It's been injected into the system by someone; though we're not sure who, and we're not sure if anyone is alive to keep giving it orders, or if it's creating tasks on it's own accord to reach whatever goal it was programmed to achieve.

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It's been around since before the collapse of Garganta/the world, though.

halcyon rune Jan 2, 2022, 9:36 AM

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Almost correct. The correct output would be:

primeCore wrdn;
flow main\/
   arr threat[]
   flow report<con>
   with con.report>0
      threat.plus
   while\threat.lng<0>/
      proc sleep
   proc threat[all]```

ember goblet Jan 2, 2022, 10:19 AM

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Warden = BioCom?

mystic pilot Jan 2, 2022, 10:25 AM

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is a program thats been overridden still the same program?

icy swift Jan 2, 2022, 10:39 AM

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ember goblet Warden = BioCom?

warden took over biocom so yes

ember goblet Jan 2, 2022, 10:42 AM

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What I mean is what if "Warden" is just a synonym, but actually means the BioCom system. Since humans and especially the staff are afraid of things they don't understand, it could be that they have given their BioCom system a "personality".

mystic pilot Jan 2, 2022, 10:47 AM

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warden is what took over biocoms systems

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both of these are their designations, as programs

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biocoms priorities and goals were likely different from wardens, as if they were the same there would be no reason for hostile takeover

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 12:02 PM

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Still, the Warden program inherited BIOCOM, which means that it is capable of everything BIOCOM was and potentially more.
And it seems like the Warden program was "sleeping" until the length of the threat array was increased due to a con.report

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For those who don't know, in programmin inheritance means an object/entity that is of the same type and capability as the object/entity it inherits, but with additional functions and construction parameters.

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So for example, I could say that a hammer object inherits melee weapon object.

wild plank Jan 2, 2022, 3:02 PM

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mystic pilot is a program thats been overridden still the same program?

Good question
I think it's only the same program in the way a human that's been possessed is still the same human. The object is the same, but the inside is not.

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:08 PM

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mystic pilot is a program thats been overridden still the same program?

technically

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yes

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the base of the AI is still there

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the topology and decision making is still the BIOCOM's

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but the main action protocols and tasks are changed

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:09 PM

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honest merlin Still, the Warden program *inherited* BIOCOM, which means that it is capable of ...

exactly

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:09 PM

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ember goblet What I mean is what if "Warden" is just a synonym, but actually means the BioCom...

they haven't

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the whole warden business occurred without their knowledge

subtle verge Jan 2, 2022, 4:10 PM

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Yep, well before Extinction Event #6

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:10 PM

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yeah

raw island Jan 2, 2022, 4:51 PM

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I think it would be interesting if civilization had been wiped out, and the Warden is sending us down into hell in a sort of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream scenario

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It’s kinda the vibe I’m getting, with the patchy armor and low resources

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:51 PM

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humanity is wiped out

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 4:51 PM

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Mostly

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:52 PM

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there are less than 50 thousand people alive by estimates

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even less if we know more about how NAM-V spreads

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but in any case

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every urban place is gone

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rural almost fully

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only very isolated places are fine

raw island Jan 2, 2022, 4:53 PM

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It’s really interesting. We’re trapped with this AI, and no one even knows we’re here

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:53 PM

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why we are there we know

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what we are going to do, we don't

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 4:55 PM

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So we know the warden is pursuing datacubes from C1 right? If so, what purpose could that be? Something involving Red Alpha?

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 4:56 PM

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personally i'm not sure about the data cubes

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@lilac island can give a better explanation

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 4:56 PM

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Everything prior has seemed to be resource, information, and access allocation. But getting the Data Cubes seems like a goal can be partly inferred

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 5:38 PM

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raw fossil Everything prior has seemed to be resource, information, and access allocation. ...

the warden uses the data cubes with the matter wave projector to get to alpha two in d1

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 5:39 PM

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the matter wave projector works differently

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it uses the crystal in it

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then probably triangulates a position to teleport to with the teleport room

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also iirc d1 has no mention of data cubes

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 5:58 PM

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it does not mention the data cubes, but it is common sense that in order to get to d1, we need the matter wave projector from a1, and the data cubes from c1, which we got the coords in b1. im not sure if the matter wave projector uses the data cubes physically, or that it just uses the info extracted from them. I think I remember in an audio log from dr. stokes from c1 that she mentions the datacubes might be used in conjunction with the matter wave projector.

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 5:58 PM

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hmm

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well if you could please find that audio log

harsh saffron Jan 2, 2022, 6:04 PM

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these 2 mention the data cubes (blocks) and the connection with the MWP

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:04 PM

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ty duck

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:05 PM

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"The Blocks share design aesthetics with the Matter Wave Projector." and "I’m confident the Blocks are supposed to attach to the Matter Wave Projector"

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:05 PM

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do we see a change in the mwp texture in d1?

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:06 PM

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idk cant remember

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well the data cubes look like the matter wave projector with the orange/ yellow paint

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I think I see data cubes on the mwp in d1 but there are 4 of them

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but they look exactly like data cubes

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:16 PM

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ok question @analog frigate where did stokes go?

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:16 PM

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deceased

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most likely

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:16 PM

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why would she go somewhere

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did i miss a log

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 PM

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i really want to know what tf happed to her

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 PM

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she is most likely dead

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 PM

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how so?

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 PM

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sleepers or NAM-V

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she isn't a KSO

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she can't handle herself

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 PM

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yes but shes a important piece of the complex

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 PM

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analog frigate she isn't a KSO

scientists are important so she might of been protected.

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:17 PM

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so i think they would evac her

mystic pilot Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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evac to where

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lmao

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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anywhere

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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mystic pilot evac to where

surface

mystic pilot Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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isnt the surface similarly fucked

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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it's not safe almost everywhere

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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mystic pilot isnt the surface similarly fucked

i mean not around the complex most likely

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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also by the time they would evac her

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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analog frigate it's not safe almost everywhere

there is still no way to know that for sure

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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the KSOs have been kinda taken over by the warden

mystic pilot Jan 2, 2022, 6:18 PM

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if youre evacing from garganta, you probably brought the virus with you

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:19 PM

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Considering that Dauda was a scientist and became a KSO after closing himself in a HSU, it is possible that some other scientists and Garganta personnel met the same fate.

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:19 PM

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mystic pilot if youre evacing from garganta, you probably brought the virus with you

i mean true

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:20 PM

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honest merlin Considering that Dauda was a scientist and became a KSO after closing himself in...

hmmmm maybe?

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:20 PM

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was dauda in the legion program?

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:20 PM

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nah he was a scientist

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:20 PM

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no he put himself in the HSU he was a scientist

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:21 PM

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did he have any prior military experience?

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:21 PM

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project insight

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:21 PM

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analog frigate did he have any prior military experience?

dont think so hes a doctor

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:21 PM

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analog frigate was dauda in the legion program?

No. At least not before he closed himself in the HSU where he was found. By whom is a mystery, and it is possible that it could have been prisoners sent by the Warden. He then received combat training and was made into a KSO.

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:21 PM

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and he said that his sorry for bringing the devil (prop num-v virus) to the world

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saying hear me and know that dauda (last name here) died as a (dont remember the word)

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:22 PM

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honest merlin No. At least not before he closed himself in the HSU where he was found. By whom...

ah there we go

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:22 PM

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topaz flare saying hear me and know that dauda (last name here) died as a (dont remember th...

coward was the word

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:22 PM

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thanks

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:22 PM

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he had to receive combat training at the least

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:22 PM

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hmmmm not really

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think of it as this lore and gameplay are diff from each other most likely in this game

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so one may say yes he did

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:23 PM

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then the whole KSO thing is flawed

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you make special operatives and give them no combat training

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all it takes is that they get into an HSU

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:23 PM

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true

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:23 PM

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Considering how south things are in the world, it is possible that the Warden might have been running short on manpower (and was before the end of R5), and was scavenging for people in HSUs in order to make them into KSOs.

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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he definitely was

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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analog frigate you make special operatives and give them no combat training

The warden could have other prisoners to give combat training.

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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what does KSO stand for again?

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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otherwise the KDS Deep business wouldn't have occurred

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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topaz flare what does KSO stand for again?

Kovac Security Operative

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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topaz flare what does KSO stand for again?

kovac special operative

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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thanks

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f**k its 2 diff meanings

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:24 PM

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it's special operative

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i remember the log

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(finally remember something)

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:25 PM

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but bishop said his a security operative...

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:25 PM

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^

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:25 PM

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and then another log said kovac special operative

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:25 PM

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like in B1 its right there " This is kovac security operative Bishop"

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:25 PM

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well i don't think it matters

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they mean the same thing

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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i mean not really

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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not really

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one is special

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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close enough

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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but yea I don't think it matters

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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Yeah, though if KSO is a special operative, the word special loses its meaning because all KSOs are then special.

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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think they are security operatives tho

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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it doesn't matter in the long run

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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it's like the quantum entanglement and quantum tethering business again

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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ya

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:26 PM

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i'm gonna check the wiki for that one log

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i clearly remember it saying special operative

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:27 PM

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the problem right now is that we dont know how fucked is the outside

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is it baran

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:27 PM

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analog frigate it's like the quantum entanglement and quantum tethering business again

well quantum tethering is a made up word and quantum entanglement is an actual thing.

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:27 PM

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is the complex the last standing point

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:27 PM

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topaz flare the problem right now is that we dont know how fucked is the outside

it is definitely barren

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devoid of life

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:27 PM

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we dont know

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:27 PM

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analog frigate devoid of life

still not any way to be sure of that.

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:27 PM

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maybe even wildlife depending how NAM-V affects animals

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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again we dont know

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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finite vine still not any way to be sure of that.

it's not that difficult to assume

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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we dont even know if NAM-V spread around the entire world

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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i've run it a couple times with different variables

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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ok ok

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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or if they got a vaccine

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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this may sound stupid

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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finite vine we dont even know if NAM-V spread around the entire world

it has

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in the US for sure

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and the UK for sure

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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give proof

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a log?

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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hospital log, santonian website terminal, corrupted folder

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:28 PM

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but you remember the like 4th or 5th resident movie ending where there was like one last strong hold? i think thats happening to the complex

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and with the warden

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being a collectives of learders

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:29 PM

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analog frigate hospital log, santonian website terminal, corrupted folder

Mambo Media Services news wire
Manchester Eye
Mar 18th, 2053

Growing Concern over NAM-V
by Duncan Keith

Saturday night at the Manchester Royal Infirmary. Usually, the emergency room sees a steady influx of patients. It’s busy; but no more than they can handle. the Infirmary is well staffed and stocked and has a reputation for dealing with patients quickly and efficiently.

But not tonight. Tonight over 250 people crowd the waiting rooms. As one patient is seen, treated, and released, 2 more take their place at the end of the line. There are no beds left, not enough personal protective equipment for the medical staff, and a barely contained sense of panic among the cast-down faces of those waiting in hope that they don’t have “the Stoops”. This is a hospital clinging on, desperately trying to weather the storm. The storm of the NAM-V virus.

Since the WHO officially labeled the NAM-V virus as a pandemic, the number of reported cases has spiked. In part that is due to a more concerted testing effort, but it is also a sign of just how quickly this virus is spreading. Unlike previous pandemics (Hook, COVID19 – 21, Respo-Z2), this one debilitates its victims. There is no stay-at-home solution. If you have NAM-V, you need medical support. The long-term effects of the virus are still unknown, but once you start to feel the tightening in your bones and the persistent hallucinations you will need medical supervision, or the end will be swift. Medical intervention is the only thing that can slow the decline. Even if the patient does manage to survive the initial onslaught of the virus, it will remain in their system and can strike again without warning. Once you are isolated with NAM-V, you stay isolated.

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:29 PM

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as Schaefer calls them they

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:29 PM

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topaz flare as Schaefer calls them they

schaeffer is insane

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we can't really trust what he says

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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analog frigate Mambo Media Services news wire Manchester Eye Mar 18th, 2053 Growing Concern o...

dope I remember now. yea it probably is getting out of control. I thought there was no evidence that NAM-V left Florida, but there is this log and the national alert audio log.

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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yes he is insane but somehow everything he says comes back around at least 2 or 3 things he said

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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finite vine dope I remember now. yea it probably is getting out of control. I thought there ...

yeah it's everywhere

honest merlin Jan 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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analog frigate Mambo Media Services news wire Manchester Eye Mar 18th, 2053 Growing Concern o...

There's also the log about WHO broadcasting about the virus and sounding like everything has been lost, when they sent the exploration team to Garganta. Again, we don't really know where the Warden came from, and it is possible that the Warden was injected into BIOCOM by WHO operatives and tasked with finding the origin of the virus

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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topaz flare but you remember the like 4th or 5th resident movie ending where there was like ...

again i think this is happening

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:30 PM

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analog frigate yeah it's everywhere

and from another log which is an analysis of NAM-V

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we get how it spreads

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:31 PM

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ok basically world went to shit and complex and the area around the complex is what we got left

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:31 PM

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i've run a couple simulations for different spreading scenarios

topaz flare Jan 2, 2022, 6:31 PM

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analog frigate i've run a couple simulations for different spreading scenarios

wait you can do that?
how

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:32 PM

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I mean there are simulations for alot of things lol

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:32 PM

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variables being: spread range, public reaction (aka social distancing, washing hands ect), person density

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and a couple more that i don't remember rn

subtle verge Jan 2, 2022, 6:33 PM

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We also have a log confirming that the virus spread to Europe. (Sorry, kinda' late, been busy today).

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:33 PM

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in the best case scenario (not very high density, parasite basically doesn't exist, social distancing to the max), 98.8% of the population gets infected within 150 days

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:34 PM

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analog frigate in the best case scenario (not very high density, parasite basically doesn't exi...

thats crazy

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:34 PM

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i couldn't account for hospital care but it doesn't seem like it impacted much of anything

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:34 PM

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finite vine thats crazy

wait till you hear this

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if we make it realistic (take covid public reaction and WHO data, the parasite can actually spread the virus but not animals and some other stuff)

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99.98% of humanity is infected within 1 month

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27 days to be exact

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50 thousand people still healthy

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 6:36 PM

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analog frigate we can't really trust what he says

We do have recorded confirmation of his most insane statements though

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:36 PM

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that's why i said really

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some is true

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but not everything is to be trusted

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 6:37 PM

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I think he’s back to baseline for ‘trustworthy actor’ at that point, but maybe our baselines are different

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:37 PM

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analog frigate 50 thousand people still healthy

damn. humanity is fucked lmao.

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 6:37 PM

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He shouldn’t have schiz or anything, just mania

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:37 PM

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finite vine damn. humanity is fucked lmao.

yeah now you get why i said it's basically all gone

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

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raw fossil He shouldn’t have schiz or anything, just mania

mania for sure but we don't know if there is anything else

finite vine Jan 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

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analog frigate yeah now you get why i said it's basically all gone

yea that was my bad. I forgot about the logs confirming the spread out of Flordia.

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

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No more likely than anyone else

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Afaik

subtle verge Jan 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

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Mania and I'd guarantee the PTSD isn't helping, either.

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

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finite vine yea that was my bad. I forgot about the logs confirming the spread out of Flordi...

np

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at least now you know

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

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subtle verge Mania and I'd guarantee the PTSD isn't helping, either.

true

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

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subtle verge Mania and I'd guarantee the PTSD isn't helping, either.

Ptsd doesn’t cause hallucinations, just stress and mania

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Its not a madness

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:39 PM

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why would hallucinations be needed

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 6:39 PM

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Because hallucinations are the basis of untrustworthy actors

analog frigate Jan 2, 2022, 6:39 PM

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also shellshock is based on the type of experience

raw fossil Jan 2, 2022, 6:39 PM

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That or deception