time to go fail C2 secondary again and hold damn hybrids and a wave by myself cause someone will get a bug 
#gtfo-lore
gaunt marsh
analog frigate
anyway, back on lore topics
leaden dagger
lmao
subtle verge
I'mma fully write out my theory on the Gustavo/Jansen scenario.
analog frigate
cya zyre
west yew
Honestly my biggest complaint with the lore I guess is not it’s depth but it’s presentation . Me and my friends don’t have the time to look through all the audio logs I like to see more stuff like surface levels, because in all honesty b1 blew me and my friends away that level immediately hooked us on the game and I think more direct ways of telling the lore would make the game even better then it already is
brave dragon
I have one last question pleasseee
analog frigate
go ahead but in #gtfo-related-questions
brave dragon
alright bet
vague loom
hoo buddy you better take responsibility for this one
analog frigate
Honestly my biggest complaint with the lore I guess is not it’s depth but it’s p...
yeah well going into the lore isn't for the faint of heart
vague loom
i wrote a fuckin paper on sleeper biology
leaden dagger
😂😂
vague loom
analog frigate
yeah well going into the lore isn't for the faint of heart
for us to know so much it has been reading everything, checking all terminals and chatting a lot in this chat
subtle verge
Truuuuuue
vague loom
grem just be passively absorbing info all the time
analog frigate
thankfully people make videos and other stuff for people that want to just get the lore without that much effort
vague loom
look
analog frigate
like @white moth does
subtle verge
I will admit: getting thrown in to Red Alpha for the first time was nuts to me. I had such a heavy reaction lmfao.
vague loom
i want our shit published
white moth
Hello?
analog frigate
hi five
vague loom
analog frigate
people wanting your lore vids again
subtle verge
Hence why I joined this channel as a scrublord and am now becoming a Lore Chad.
analog frigate
part 2 of r6?
analog frigate
ah
white moth
Like I remade my first video into R1-R4
analog frigate
oh you need to finish d1 before finishing the video
white moth
And I’m making a new one R5-R6
subtle verge
Oh shit, link for the channel? I'll throw a sub out.
white moth
And yeah I do because I need to test some theories and get the voice log after the monster I. D1
analog frigate
it's a very important expedition
vague loom
does five have access to our hypothetical rambling?
vague loom
idk i don't own the doc kek
white moth
Can I join(
analog frigate
we are almost done with it
leaden dagger
it will be published very soon
white moth
Ok
analog frigate
i'm just finishing the details
vague loom
excited tiny gremlin jumping up and down in a corner
leaden dagger
dagga approves
subtle verge
RELEASE THE SAUCE
analog frigate
i've written the name we gave them so much that i can write it from muscle memory
subtle verge
Lmfao
white moth
I need help tho if anyone wants to do D1-D4 please lmk otherwise I’m going into match making channel tonight and I’m gonna try and get D1-D2 done
white moth
Ok
It ain’t gonna be till later tho
Because I gotta work out then finish watching Hawkeye with my gf it’ll probably be around 10-11
analog frigate
alright
white moth
I have two friends that will join but my 1 friend wants to do C1 cause he needs the map for his guide video
analog frigate
c1 is going to be a pain
white moth
I’m gonna make a Woods Cosplay or a Hackett Cosplay because I can
Gonna get jacked just for it
analog frigate
don't go hackett because the simp will come around
unless ravenna forces you or something
white moth
Who’s simp?
analog frigate
the hackett simp
white moth
I wanna be Hackett cause it’s easier xd
analog frigate
who could be the biggest hackett simp
subtle verge
Uhh real quick: Dr. Stokes is the presumed leader of the Alpha 2 expedition, right? The one that is heard in the Hearsay dialogue before the prisoners make the jump in B1?
analog frigate
yes
subtle verge
Thank you.
analog frigate
she is the director
subtle verge
Director, that's right.
analog frigate
and Dr. Derant is the leader of the actual expedition
also @vague loom you have to rename yourself to Dr. Grem
that title is needed
analog frigate
here you qualify
vague loom
still got a year.
subtle verge
"Physician Grem at your service."
vague loom
the doc is an absolute fkin banger tho
wild plank
Could be the warden
split kraken
Do yall know the name of those flying eye lookin mobs?
wild plank
I just call em Flying Polyps
analog frigate
Do yall know the name of those flying eye lookin mobs?
Flyers
analog frigate
Anyone know what’s taking in c2?
it's not a robot
schaeffer described it in a prior log
that it was a blue/green malformed creature made up from multiple bodies and covered in ash
dim scroll
charger momento
analog frigate
soon™
The Nature of Sleepers, a report/comprehensive study.
Includes updated theory of the Toxic Fog due to it being used as a source.
@subtle verge here it is
time to relax with some solitaire
i'll still be here if pinged
analog frigate
it's properly done
finite vine
true, but what samples did you test to determine that parts of the brain are intact
if there is a brain at all
analog frigate
@vague loom
also general observation and theory by dagga
behavior also matches up
vague loom
the fact is that there has to be a brain; if there's to be any sort of movement
subtle verge
S A U C E
vague loom
given the general body plan of the infected; it'd be ridiculous to think that they've overtaken and become the sort of nervous system required for the coordination and movements of the body that we see in normal sleepers
finite vine
I figured that you just inferred that these specific parts of the brain are intact because sleepers have basic movement, but then the report says that "The cerebellum extracted from those samples brought back from the Rundown are intact; suggesting the creature requires coordination and movement."
vague loom
the sleepers crawl on all fours and have exhibited fine motor control. This is traditionally considered through neurology to be the responsibility of the cerebellum, with neurons running from the motor cortex to the cerebellum for fine tuning before entering the spinal cord.
finite vine
"The teeth themselves have undergone spectroscopic analysis; revealing themselves to not be repurposed bone as previously believed, but aggregated hair follicles akin to a porcupine’s spines.
" How could you figure this out without samples?
analog frigate
I figured that you just inferred that these specific parts of the brain are inta...
i think it was for writing aesthetics
finite vine
i think it was for writing aesthetics
I like the aesthetics . Makes the report really cool actually.
analog frigate
"The teeth themselves have undergone spectroscopic analysis; revealing themselve...
that's grem's observations
they seem correct to me
it would make sense
finite vine
how though
vague loom
"The teeth themselves have undergone spectroscopic analysis; revealing themselve...
unlikely that with the lighting up of the head and chest regions during an alert phase; it'd be weird that the teeth also light up. If they were bone; or remodeled skull, they'd be opaque, the same way that if i shone a light through your head i'd not be seeing light come out the other ear
analog frigate
i've done some light changes to make it seem more like a santonian or kovac report
vague loom
bone's pretty dense in terms of blocking light.
finite vine
unlikely that with the lighting up of the head and chest regions during an alert...
did u mention this in the report, that makes sense
vague loom
teeth and ivory and keratin on the other hand, if non-pigmented, allow light through fairly easily.
true wharf
so Rundown 6 is technically game proper since it's out of early access
finite vine
if the bone is thin enough though, light might phase through
analog frigate
so Rundown 6 is technically game proper since it's out of early access
it was a proper game before, just fully out now
vague loom
if you shone a torchlight at relatively thin rhino's horn or fingernail; you'd get light going through; that's keratin and not calcium hydroxyapatite in the organic matrix.
analog frigate
and more stuff are added
analog frigate
if you shone a torchlight at relatively thin rhino's horn or fingernail; you'd g...
yeah
analog frigate
did u mention this in the report, that makes sense
i don't see it so sadly not
but then someone can just ask i suppose
finite vine
if you shone a torchlight at relatively thin rhino's horn or fingernail; you'd g...
yea that makes sense. I didn't read it yet if it was in the report.
analog frigate
allows for better explanations when someone asks later
finite vine
is it not in the report?
analog frigate
not completely sure
finite vine
actually their teeth don't really glow up at all, just looked in game
analog frigate
since i am almost constantly in this chat i suppose i can give answers but then grem needs to explain the reasons behind everything
true wharf
idk why i was thinking rundown 1-5 was like a prologue like how Nier Automata was when A and B route was technically a prologue and the game proper was route C
vague loom
in my runs when they hit the full-red excitation the base of the teeth glow.
might be just texture bleed
but it makes sense that rather than create "teeth" a more easy repurposing is using "hair" as "fangs"
finite vine
"The valves are reinforced, and twice as thick and half as compliant as in an adult human heart." How could you guys tell that the valves in the heart are reinforced
vague loom
the sound.
analog frigate
they seemed to glow through the whole surrounding texture map, including the teeth
analog frigate
"*The valves are reinforced, and twice as thick and half as compliant as in an a...
too thumpy
the beat is very low pitched
vague loom
a normal heartbeat has 4 sounds. sound 1 and 2 are the sounds of the valves shutting
for it to be audible, and to click shut with force enough to create that sound; the valves currently existing in humans would blow out.
finite vine
the beat is very low pitched
why didn't u say that in the report then. I'm not really understanding any of the reasons you guys came to your conclusions
vague loom
because the way i wrote the report was as though it was a biological assessment report from a santonian industries researcher.
finite vine
because the way i wrote the report was as though it was a biological assessment ...
I mean I know why you did that but it is hard for a player to understand why you came to the conclusions you did. Still good information though.
vague loom
if needed, i can explain the nuances
i mean, this is by no means an authority on the sleepers
analog frigate
i'm also asking him questions to be able to answer stuff as well
vague loom
if you'd like, feel free to write your own version as well. if you can outdo me, then that's only better for the community.
analog frigate
yeah this is just an attempt to gather as much as we know about them so that it's easier to build on in the future
it's more of a foundation
finite vine
it's more of a foundation
I like the report, its just hard to build something off of a foundation that has no explanation.
analog frigate
true
lilac island
@vague loom yo loot gremlin I like what you did, but in general anatomy you said there are "no major dysmorphic changes to joints, musculoskeletal symptoms or locomotion symptoms", but those are all the same things, so you could just change it to "no dysmorphic changes to the musculature and skeletal structure", or simply "no dysmorphic changes to the musculoskeletal system"
finite vine
There are explanations though, just some stuff is not explained
How long did this take u guys?
analog frigate
but i suppose you can ask question and i'll edit it to make it a bit more understandable to the average person
finite vine
Good job
vague loom
<@!156121459498942464> yo loot gremlin I like what you did, but in general anato...
i mostly differentiated them, because the general differences in an orthopedic examination would be split into
Arthritic (joint based)
Bone based (osteopathology)
and Movement based
lilac island
sure thing
I see what youre doing there then
I dont understand the usage of the word "symptom" there though
lilac island
yeah
vague loom
my bad!
analog frigate
i'll fix it
lilac island
just a typo then 👍
vague loom
yee
lilac island
I like what youve got going here though
Is this sort of like a headcanon report based on in game findings and extrapolations based on them?
vague loom
ye
from a medical standpoint; am a medical student currently doing my clinical rotations
lilac island
respect
finite vine
yea its nice
lilac island
im going into neuroscience, unsure if going into med school or grad school though
analog frigate
i'll fix it
done
lilac island
so I like this stuff
finite vine
thats fun
lilac island
sounds interesting
where did you guys come up with the scientific name
for the sleepers
finite vine
V.Multitudinem
vague loom
Vermis Multidudinem --> the Worm Multitude
lilac island
Ahhh I see
vague loom
Vermis Gigantum --> the large worm
finite vine
so its the parasite inside right?
vague loom
so V.Multitudinem is the sleeper; because it's likely that a single sleeper has many many worms all performing different homeostatic functions vs the idea that a single worm causes all things
lilac island
yeah
vague loom
V.Gigantus is simply the worm lucky enough to enter the nutrient rich gastric tract and dominate in size.
analog frigate
i used it as a standard for the species
finite vine
Thats interesting
analog frigate
since a theory on the kraken and flyers is that they are the endemic species of red alpha that also got infected by v. gigantum
for inclusion it works well
finite vine
Does the sleeper get infected by the V.Multitudinem and then the V.Gigantum gets formed from one of the worms?
analog frigate
the opposite
vague loom
the sleeper is formed by the larval infection of V. gigantum mixed with the RTV causing the DNA to become labile and easier to mutate
analog frigate
it gets infected by V. gigantum with the help of RTV (placeholder name for the virus) and form V. multitudinem
finite vine
Why is a virus required by the V.Gigantum in order to infect the host?
analog frigate
to weaken the immune system and DNA
finite vine
why does the DNA need to be weakened
vague loom
a virus is present; by inserting itself into DNA, and piggybacking in symbiosis with the initial worm infection; the virus both gets a host, and gets a transport vector. the worm gets a more hospitable environment no matter the host; and becomes able to alter host behaviours easier.
vague loom
why does the DNA need to be weakened
parasite infections don't cause the gross changes seen in the sleepers.
vague loom
viral infections with DNA alterations cause mutations such as tumors.
finite vine
Why is a virus required by the V.Gigantum in order to infect the host?
I actually remembered a log that describes a parasite and a virus. is this why?
analog frigate
that's NAM-V
finite vine
Are you sure? It never mentioned NAM-V in that log
finite vine
"I have our entire cellular biology department working on this, but so far
little progress has been made. Even after the parasite is removed, the viral
load increases. We cannot stop the progress of the virus, and our only
defense is SCBA Level A suits when in NAM-V hotspots. Even with this level of protection, the parasites are finding ways in."
oh lmao nvm
it says NAM-V
finite vine
So there are two viruses? How do you know that NAM-V is not the RVT Virus
analog frigate
i'm working on a theory, possibly with punk about how the surface could be more dangerous than we think
vague loom
RVT simply stands for Reverse Transcriptase Virus Serotype O15H232
analog frigate
if we manage, it will prove that NAM-V causes sleepers
but i still need to think and gather information
finite vine
To me, at least, it makes more sense of V.Gigantus to be the parasite that infects the person on its own along with the virus. Why did you guys go the route of having V.Multitudinem infect the body and reproduce into hundreds of larvae, and the larvae that grows within the GI tract forms into V.Gigantus, the parasite that attacks us in game.
analog frigate
because a parasite infects a host
it cannot attack us by itself
V. multitudinem has to infect a host, taking it over as to accomplish almost anything
parasites themselves cannot do much of anything except, be a parasite
gaunt marsh
Guide me @analog frigate por favor, this aint my place 
analog frigate
there's a lot
and a lot by Dr. Grem
but go ahead, read the document and ask away
gaunt marsh
I guess the pinned one?
analog frigate
nope
analog frigate
The Nature of Sleepers, a report/comprehensive study.
Includes updated theory of...
^
gaunt marsh
Thank you 
That looks interesting, may continue reading tomorrow as i gotta sleep, thanks for sharing @analog frigate
analog frigate
sleep well
finite vine
because a parasite infects a host
im saying that V.Gigantus is a parasite itself, the parasite that infects the host.
analog frigate
V. gigantus is the resulting mutated human after the parasite infects it
they are counted as two different things
i might have messed up wording later on if that's what you are seeing
and switched them
which part are you looking at
finite vine
V. gigantus is not the parasite that lives in the GI tract?
This is my understanding. V.Multitudinem is the sleeper itself, and V. gigantus is the parasite that lives in the GI tract.
finite vine
no problem. and V.Multitudinem is the initial parasite that infects the human right, and V. gigantus is a parasite from V.Multitudinem that gets lucky enough to live in the GI tract, and becomes very large. Is that correct?
solar nova
What log is this info from?
finite vine
What log is this info from?
not a log unfortunately, its a report written by 3 people
kinda like lore cannon/ speculations
analog frigate
no problem. and V.Multitudinem is the initial parasite that infects the human ri...
i am not completely sure
@vague loom could you clear it up?
finite vine
its not a big deal, I could just be reading it wrong
vague loom
essentially the larval form is V.Multitudinem.
the larger, more dangerous form is V.Gigantum
analog frigate
and the fully mutated form is still called "sleeper"?
finite vine
My question is why did you guys speculate that V.Multitudinem has to exist in the first place? Why not just have V.Gigantum infect the human by, lets say, sliding down its throat?
analog frigate
that would be too violent and difficult of an entry
we see damage coming from the abdomen up the esophagus
i suppose it could've gone down but after attacking a multitude of times it could've gone up again
grem can explain better than me
he wrote the big brain parts
finite vine
Dope. Cool report, too bad it might be awhile untill we can confirm most of the info.
analog frigate
all of it is visual observation
finite vine
Well there is some speculation
analog frigate
i don't think the devs though this deep of how the sleepers work but these are still possible answers
analog frigate
Well there is some speculation
nothing is completely certain
most of it is real life comparison
finite vine
We don't even know, and there is really no way of knowing with the information we have now, that V.Multitudinem exists, and is required to infect a host
analog frigate
this is a completely new species that we can't research, isn't even carbon-based
finite vine
Could just be one big parasite that infects a host and grows in GI tract
analog frigate
and from a video game
finite vine
yea thats my point...
finite vine
this is a completely new species that we can't research, isn't even carbon-based
how do you know its not carbon based.
analog frigate
logs, evaluation and a conversation i don't remember
so i'll scroll up until i find when and how i found that out
finite vine
idk... its a cool report but a lot of it cant be proven rn
which is ok
because its good to brainstorm
finite vine
I don't really see a concrete explanation
finite vine
oh lol
analog frigate
@frail pollen why do we go down too fast and for too long to go anywhere below 2000m. should i just disregard drop speed since it makes no sense in any physical regard?
actually disregard that
we are apparently going down at 442kmh only with terminal velocity
but then how are we going 122m/s for over 10 seconds and end up in an expedition 800m deep?
still stream
because loading screen
analog frigate
the speed makes no sense
analog frigate
because loading screen
yes
but such a thing should make sense
then you could easily decrease the speed and give enough time for the level to load and to drop down at reasonable rates
well
the speed for mass and drag is reasonable
but then time doesn't work
i am dissatisfied with this physics oversight
and how does it goddamn turn
it doesn't touch the sides for guide rails
and it's a crane
rope can't just turn
what is this
finite vine
<@!82942340309716992> why do we go down too fast and for too long to go anywhere...
loading screen
finite vine
it does not matter. its jut loading the game
analog frigate
Because spending an extra minute in the drop for realism is a bad game design.
you don't spend extra time
in 11 seconds you are already at the deepest expedition
finite vine
why doesn't it make sense.
finite vine
in 11 seconds you are already at the deepest expedition
its just game design
finite vine
well the lift would also need something like a LIDAR scanner to map the environment around it to determine a good entry point into the expedition also...
analog frigate
there is one entry shaft that then branches out into different entry points
so that thing going a third the speed of sound is turning without guidance while being attached with a rope from a crane
finite vine
im saying why would the lift know exactly how far to go down, to make sure the prisoners are not thrust into rock when being pulled out and dropped onto solid ground.
analog frigate
i would understand if it had a guide rail or any system to change directions but like
absolutely nothing
finite vine
its just game design. there are alot of things that dont make sense about the lift from an engineering perspective
analog frigate
yeah i think i should sleep and stop ranting about nonsensical crane design choices
white moth
@analog frigate want to do that D1 now or are you sleeping?
wild plank
lilac island
but such a thing should make sense
it's entirely inconsistent, and takes longer depending on how shit your pc is at loading in the level
i agree it doesn't make sense physically, it's one of the few things that has to be handwaved
the implication is we take the actual physical amount of time
white moth
yo
since the sleepers come from humans
are the spitters their ball sacks that fell off?
raw island
Yes
finite vine
most certainly
raw island
The only thing confirmed, actually
leaden dagger
obviously
harsh saffron
i need the audio from D1
#wiki-chat message
"schaeffer_voice_message_09"
harsh saffron
C2 I think
harsh saffron
Zone123A if im correct
white moth
because i cant do C2 C3 and D2 D3 D4 in the time frame i have
so im just gonna listen to the audio logs and go from there
harsh saffron
understandable
icy swift
this log is just so weird and throwing me off a lot
how does it fit into the sleeper/flyer and the story
white moth
this log is just so weird and throwing me off a lot
bro
i am trying to understand all of this
its so confusing
im trying to fit everything into 1 video
icy swift
good luck with that xd
white moth
i think i will need a seperate video on all of the side expeditions
icy swift
ye
white moth
i got it
whos the nmae of a nown dev?
is ludwig a dev idk the team (im sorry papi)
harsh saffron
They have their own role here, so anybody in the "10 Chambers Dev" role should be a dev
frail pollen
^^
frank canyon
Are the audio logs in the wiki chat all logs from r6?
harsh saffron
I would assume so
lofty cave
how does it fit into the sleeper/flyer and the story
Is it possible he is speaking with the Mom?
Since there is one in c 2
harsh saffron
He's probably talking to almost-human thing that he describes in the audio log before that one
And I don't think the mom would be able to talk so "clearly",*** if*** she can talk at all
lofty cave
He's probably talking to almost-human thing that he describes in the audio log b...
not fully transformed sleeper?
harsh saffron
don't think so, he said that they tore that thing to pieces in the beginning, but that the next time he saw it, it just walked through all the sleepers without them noticing
icy swift
Is it possible he is speaking with the Mom?
no, mom doesnt have white skin
frank canyon
and no blue veins right?
lofty cave
don't think so, he said that they tore that thing to pieces in the beginning, bu...
shadows?
sounds like it
icy swift
na its something else
harsh saffron
not a sleeper, they would have no reason to kill it themselves then
icy swift
white, blue veins, clear skin
lofty cave
also im confused, he said it walked through sleepers without them noticing? How much time passed between finding sleepers and full shit get blown off in all Garganta?>
harsh saffron
unknown time periods 😄
lofty cave
so they found sleepers in the deep, they break out and then? They continue digging?
harsh saffron
yea
icy swift
they have not broken out yet
harsh saffron
because research
lofty cave
no i mean they spread out in all Complex
icy swift
yea
lofty cave
because research
so miners dying, probably KDS protecting them in the deeper parts of the mine, lab guys do their thing which explains sleepers in the jars all over the place
and then what?
icy swift
we dont have muich besides that
how they took over the complex
why have they not broken out
harsh saffron
They could be outside by this point tbh, we still don't rly know for sure what year it is currently, do we?
icy swift
we dont know the year thats true
lofty cave
oh sorry
lofty cave
why have they not broken out
it might not be so easy
that what it was supposed to be 😄
icy swift
ah
from all the logs available, it has never been mentioned the sleepers are out of complex
lofty cave
but the NUM-V somehow are
harsh saffron
at the top the elevator they just placed 100 sniper sentries with 100% cpu speed boosters, ez, nothing will ever escape 🙂
icy swift
and we have a theory where they are not an aggressive species but one which protects its colony/land
lofty cave
is it the same tunnel flu miners was getting?
icy swift
NAM-V is a virus which is spread above
lofty cave
and we have a theory where they are not an aggressive species but one which prot...
but they ARE transformed humans right? Or at least they repopulate by transforming humans into themselves
all the dead bodies with minor sleeper signs and in the same poses everywhere
harsh saffron
Have you seen the movie anahilation? Because whenever I think about the pale thing talking to schaeffer, im thinking of the ending of that movie
icy swift
i have not no
harsh saffron
that makes it harder to explain I guess ^^
lofty cave
Have you seen the movie anahilation? Because whenever I think about the pale thi...
ive seen
but in the movie the nature of the source of that thing was a bit different imo
it was more like in Roadside Picnic
what we deal with inside the Complex is more like the Thing+aliens i think
harsh saffron
yeah true, its just the first thing that im thinking of when hearing that log
lofty cave
im also very curios about religion motives in it, since a lot of big sleepers looks like they are praying
lofty cave
is there detailed compilation of what we know so far regarding the lore?
lofty cave
nice!
analog frigate
Have you seen the movie anahilation? Because whenever I think about the pale thi...
one of the best movies i've seen
it is the crocodile?
or the alien clone?
harsh saffron
yeah the alien clone I was thinking about
analog frigate
since yesterday
subtle verge
Man that nam-v emergency broadcast is spooky.
Something about monotone robot voices give me the creeps.
Also: Are you a dog or a cat person?
analog frigate
i wonder why it said that
like how did it hear it
since it appears to only repeat stuff and doesn't actually understand what it's saying
subtle verge
Part of me wonders if that's what Dr Stokes heard during her recordings, when she yelled at something behind her during her Hearsay sessions.
So I wonder if it's just been... there for a long time, picked up conversations from workers.
white moth
Is it bad I want to make my own trailer of GTFO with the “all the leaves are brown” song
wild plank
It'd be especially good if at certain points it sounded like it was being played on an old, damaged comms system
👌 that would be bussin
white moth
Yeah
It’d just be hell of effort
I might try to
Idk I’ll have to see because I wanna get cinematic shots so I’d have to instead something like unity explorer or something
analog frigate
So I wonder if it's just been... there for a long time, picked up conversations ...
from when is the log that said peres wanted some bodies burned
white moth
Okay now I wanna do it xd
harsh saffron
from when is the log that said peres wanted some bodies burned
July 13th 2049
analog frigate
oh damn
subtle verge
Alternatively, whatever Stokes heard could also have been one of the Shadows since we have the log of the worker and the therapist.
icy swift
The "are you a dog or cat person" question makes me think it is in an AI or something
subtle verge
I won't say it's not an AI, but it seems highly unlikely after the description of the ghost-like humanoid he saw in the first log, then being incredibly freaked out in the second log and asking it if it was human.
icy swift
i know, its so contraadictory
maybe it learnt from the memories of the dead people who were burned or something?
subtle verge
Definitely possible.
mortal latch
Alternatively, whatever Stokes heard could also have been one of the Shadows sin...
Do you have this log
subtle verge
One sec
mortal latch
Awesome thank you
subtle verge
Oh shit, did you want the log for the shadow creature as well?
The text log of the workers, I mean.
mortal latch
Yes please, I'm so interested in what that thing is
I think the most interesting thing so far is that they attacked it at first. That makes it a lot more interesting
subtle verge
Let me see if I can find it.
subtle verge
I think the most interesting thing so far is that they attacked it at first. Tha...
Thanks to Infinite Duck.
mortal latch
God damn that's super strange
Well, we know a few people went missing from touching data cubes, is it possible some fused together into whatever this is
subtle verge
The theory on them is that they're a last-line defense for the hive, and it's a mutation of skin pigment.
To something that's above or below the range of colors that humans can see.
Because the Bio-tracker picks them up without issue, and we can see their shadows/outlines with a flashlight pointed at them.
mortal latch
You're referring to the invisible sleepers from previous rundowns yeah?
subtle verge
Yessir
mortal latch
Are we sure this is even talking about them based on his description
analog frigate
To something that's above or below the range of colors that humans can see.
if something is below or above, it will just be pitch black to us
or grey
so you can still see it
mortal latch
The description emphasizing that it appears to be two separate people combined, almost human, and appeared with a large noise makes me believe it's something else
Especially how Schaeffer describes his creature as almost human too, idk
First thing my mind went to is some of the teleported people who went missing managed to come back but fused and all fucked up
subtle verge
so you can still see it
Not exactly true, but kinda' true if you're talking colors on paper. The human eye can only detect wavelengths from 400nm to 700nm (if you want to be nitpicky, 390-725 give or take). Anything else below or above that spectrum is simply invisible to us. That's why we can't see the beam of Infra-red light from a remote to a TV, or why we can't see ultraviolet light without special equipment.
mortal latch
We can see the shadows shadows though can't we? The bodies produce a shadow when exposed to light
That would imply they bend light away from their body as opposed to a spectrum we can't see
graceful lotus
shadows have shadows
subtle verge
Which is another thing I was thinking about when studying color theory and wavelengths. I'm reminded of the... I think they call it the Invisibility Shield?
Chris Ramsey has one, the YouTube magician guy.
But you can still see the shield, just not what's behind it.
graceful lotus
We can see the shadows shadows though can't we? The bodies produce a shadow when...
I think it was just a coding oversight
mortal latch
Oh fair enough
subtle verge
The idea that I had with the shadows is that their natural color is a wavelength that the human eye can't detect, but with it still being physically there, it can still project a small shimmer or shadow around it.
It would also give reason as to why the bio-tracker can still see them, as I believe it detects heat sources.
ember cave
It exists as a solid object so unless it could absorb light it will produce a shadow. Like chameleons i guess is a good way to compare it
subtle verge
More or less, yeah.
My theory is just head canon at the moment.
I'm hoping we get more lore behind what those things are, and I super hope we get to see our paper-skin parrot friend.
ember cave
Plus we need some way to know where to click 😂 and yeah I haven’t seen lore talking about shadow development
wild plank
wild plank
deepest lore
subtle verge
There's an email log that talks about evacuating people; it's more recent, I think. Does that ring a bell to anyone? I can't think of which file it is.
Trying to figure out if that's something between Gustavo Peres and someone else, or if I have the wrong people.
"Something, something... now I have people to evacuate. we'll talk about this later," or something along that sentiment.
graceful lotus
ah yes
wild plank
checkin logs is fun 🧑💻
finite vine
The idea that I had with the shadows is that their natural color is a wavelength...
I don’t really think that’s how light works. The shadow is not invisible because of its color. It would have to be the type of material that the shadow is made up of. A type of material that cannot reflect all wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation, including visible light, would make the shadow appear to transparent/ invisible.
Kinda like the theory of dark matter. dark matter is invisible because it does not reflect electromagnetic radiation.
wild plank
I'm hoping we get more lore behind what those things are, and I *super* hope we ...
I was born with glass bones and paper skin. Every morning, I break my legs, and every afternoon I break my arms. At night, I lie awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep.
finite vine
🗿
subtle verge
I'll have to look more in to it. I have very limited knowledge on that other than what I remember from high school science. Lmfao.
subtle verge
That's also true.
Ok I'm on the right track here, I found the email exchange between Gustavo + Andrew Clinton about how Gustavo's evac team(s) didn't reach an area and to burn the bodies.
Now to find the exchanges beforehand.
subtle verge
Would anyone happen to know the approximate date that the B1 jump occurred for Dr. Durant / Stokes team?
I can't find any approximate dates/times of the event in the audio logs. All I know is that a week later Bishop was the only one to return with the Matter Wave Projector.
wild plank
Y'know, in later rundowns, the anatomy file should be updated if we get more info regarding the Flying Polyps
finite vine
Would anyone happen to know the approximate date that the B1 jump occurred for D...
It would have to be sometime after Dr. Hammerstein and his project insight team started to explore the fossil and its artifacts... which you could probably find out by looking at the dates of logs describing the fossil and the artifacts. The matter wave projector was probably among these artifacts found in the fossil. Other than that, there is no way of knowing the exact date.
It was either in 2054 or 2055. Most likely around June of 2055 assuming Dr. Stokes joined project insight right when Howie Stokes emailed her on June of 2054, telling her that Insight was the place to be.
white moth
bro this sucks
i wanna get my video out for R5-R6 lore
i have finished half of it
but im going away and my parents wont let me bring my pc
so i cant finish it till after the christmas break which blows
anyways there was only 1 audio log on D1 right?
icy swift
so i cant finish it till after the christmas break which blows
thats unfortunate 😦
white moth
i know
icy swift
anyways there was only 1 audio log on D1 right?
havent completed it so not sure mate
icy swift
according to wiki, no audio log in d1
finite vine
anyways there was only 1 audio log on D1 right?
I believe so, it was a Schaffer audio log, the one that plays without the terminal.
harsh saffron
according to wiki, no audio log in d1
but according to the wiki there are also no text logs, because I haven't added anything for d1 yet 😅
icy swift
ahhh
hence i said according to wiki 😛
harsh saffron
😄
twilit girder
leaden dagger
there's logs on Like every level
leaden dagger
Can't find any youtube videos about the lore of R6
people are working on web
them*
just scroll up in chat
solar nova
D1 has a neat log about some guy who swears he saw something loom out nothing at him, or something.
Wack.
alpine briar
Is there a text version of Schaeffer's records? Kind of hard to understand for non native speakers
harsh saffron
Is there a text version of Schaeffer's records? Kind of hard to understand for n...
Working on it
alpine briar
Good to hear it. Thanks for your work
vague loom
Can't find any youtube videos about the lore of R6
in recent history, an unnamed, unknown terrorist organization conducted several chemical attacks in an act of coordinated terrorism. With no demands, and the ability to strike anywhere and whenever they so choose; governments worldwide have reinstated the authority and autonomy of function of a crack team of operatives; taken from counter-terrorist groups across the world. Rainbow 6 is a tactical shooter involving the unique mechanics of coordinated breach and entry; with a team of five on either defense or offense.
charred crypt
guys what is influx protocol on r5 e1 ?
and what do that command kds deep crisis override ? i mean doing this for what ?
harsh saffron
guys what is influx protocol on r5 e1 ?
and what do that command kds deep crisis...
Basically, we give the Warden control over KDS Deep by manually using the terminal there. KDS Deep is, among other things, a storage space for tons of KSOs.
And I guess this process is called Influx Protocol because it sounds cool.
The in game desciption is "Synchronously awakens all available KSOs in KDS Deep 1"
charred crypt
ok so then what is kso ? and kds ?
honest merlin
KSO = Kovac Security Operative = People who have had their memories wiped and all rights revoked. Stored in hydrostasis when not needed for security or combat operations.
KDS = Kovac Defense Services = The ethically questionable company that offered (past tense because as we know it the world above has been wiped by the NAM-V virus outbreak) defense and security services to all kinds of clients, and used KSOs to fulfill the contracts.
honest merlin
ok so then what is kso ? and kds ?
⬆️
real pewter
is it 100% that the world already got wipe?
since there are some details about 100% isolation
honest merlin
is it 100% that the world already got wipe?
Most of the world got wiped
real pewter
alright
analog frigate
KSO = Kovac Security Operative = People who have had their memories wiped and al...
that KSO definition isn't exactly correct
they are Legion
the whole memory deleting thing is currently thought to be a side effect
analog frigate
is it 100% that the world already got wipe?
there are approximately 1.5 million people alive taking into account the nature of NAM-V
analog frigate
in recent history, an unnamed, unknown terrorist organization conducted several ...
grem what kind of explanation is that
analog frigate
It was either in 2054 or 2055. Most likely around June of 2055 assuming Dr. Stok...
dr. stokes was emailed by howie stokes?
are they somehow related (married) or are they the same person
analog frigate
I'll have to look more in to it. I have very limited knowledge on that other tha...
so let me tell you how some light from outside the visible light spectrum would act
let's say you have a door that can only reflect UV or something
that means it absorbs all other light including visible
which means if you look at that door, it will be perfect black
well there will be a slight hint of pink or red due to the structure of the eye and how higher and lower spectrum light is handled
but it will still be almost perfect black
real pewter
there are approximately 1.5 million people alive taking into account the nature ...
fascinating
analog frigate
if a sleeper acted like that, we would see an almost perfect black shape of a sleeper when there is a lighter than pitch black background
analog frigate
fascinating
yeah, by all means, the world is pretty much gone
harsh saffron
are they somehow related (married) or are they the same person
My guess is brother and sister. Definitely related because they most likely grew up together.
analog frigate
hmm
makes sense
if they were married she would be aware of this opportunity a long time ago
harsh saffron
Btw Grem was just making a joke earlier about R6: Siege ^^
harsh saffron
no worries took me a second as well 😄
analog frigate
i haven't played siege in a couple years and never even thought about r6 siege lore
dull merlin
btw why do the prisoners we use can't turn into sleepers? they only get massively infected
dim scroll
because HSUs
I don't remember which log it is but people under HSU treatment don't get infected as fast as regular people
That's why the people you see at the end of R4D2 don't show any sign of transformation
dull merlin
oh
subtle verge
The HSUs (Hydro-stasis Units) put the body in, for lack of a better term, suspended animation. It is complete 'cell death' during stasis, however when the prisoners are pulled out, the body starts where it essentially left off.
analog frigate
any mutation occurring gets frozen and possibly reversed
subtle verge
That's interesting to think about, actually.
I wonder, if given enough time and research, if an HSU could potentially have life-saving medical applications; say for trauma patients.
white moth
Would anyone be able to see if what I have put down for the lore of R5-R6A1-D1 is good?
icy swift
Would anyone be able to see if what I have put down for the lore of R5-R6A1-D1 i...
sure
white moth
sure
Ight I’ll throw it in the chat when I get home
It’s over 3000 characters I think
icy swift
sure, i'll be around
ebon iris
is there a channel or a post where i could find all the audiologs clean? theres never enough time to listen in the game or something is always louder, but they seem really interesting
ebon iris
in audio?
icy swift
ye
ebon iris
noice, ty
dapper pine
what could also be happening is when they get put into HSU's after being infected, disinfectant is applied to them cause we DO have the disinfection kits and stations.
its a possibility of when it reaches a certain stage it cant be reversed.
or it hasnt had enough time to exactly root itself into the body
icy swift
that disinfectant kits and stations are not for NAM-V
those*
they are for the toxic gas in the complex
this might help
dapper pine
aight thanks
icy swift
ye
ocean bough
Okay sorry if this was answered this rundown on a log or something but it is confirmed if we are chads or if we are clones yet??? Its something very intriguing to me
dim scroll
yup
dapper pine
i remember a comment of like "Chad Runs" where canonically everyone gets through each one alive each time
dim scroll
there is stuff about memory loss tho
analog frigate
i remember a comment of like "Chad Runs" where canonically everyone gets through...
canonically we finish every mission and survive
dapper pine
yeah
analog frigate
the same 4 KSOs do everything
technically there are more telling from how there are missions to help out in nearby sectors
dapper pine
i am bad at typing, you see
analog frigate
but we are the best of the best
dapper pine
but we are the best of the best
but yeah, due to the showing of how every time the four are sent as a team without variation (besides outfits) and a general group understanding of "Work together or die together"
ocean bough
Oh i see
Ty
So despite being the best warden still sends us to even worse environments?
Sometimes it seems like it wants us dead
icy swift
the warden doesnt know that
or if he does know that, then we have the highest chance of completing it so he sends us
analog frigate
So despite being the best warden still sends us to even worse environments?
the warden does what it wants to do
we might be the best but we are still just assets
if we die there are others to replace us
ocean bough
true
rocky shuttle
The chance of survival is often slim even in the B tier levels in lore technically
The main squads just have plot armor
So they can survive entire rundowns
rocky shuttle
In lore you beat everything first try
So then main squad has plot armor
Like i said
Cant die lmao
rocky shuttle
Hi dusk
subtle verge
I wonder if The Warden gives us Crimbus Presents
wild plank
yes
finite vine
KSO = Kovac Security Operative = People who have had their memories wiped and al...
I don’t think KSO’s have their memories wiped?
finite vine
yea I know. I’m pretty sure that is legion thou. I think they are called genesis operatives.
analog frigate
no
finite vine
Because Hacket was a KSO before he was in legion
finite vine
yea i’m pretty sure. Hackett was a KSO before he joined legion and had his memory wiped
Something to also think about, Bishop was also a KSO after his memory wiped, potentially. I think the definitions are getting mixed up.
warped wigeon
Any thoughts where the game is going to go lore wise after R6?
analog frigate
very very differently than before
finite vine
We are probably going to eventually go below 2000 meters to explore the egg and fossil
analog frigate
but we can't say a lot
since no one knew the whole red alpha business would happen
warped wigeon
Is red alpha another planet (like mars?) or some other dimension?
analog frigate
a planet in another dimension
there are multiple theories on what exactly it is
earth from another dimension, mars, mars from another dimension, a random planet
warped wigeon
What's the wardens goal with R6? It seems to be related to getting information about the spaghetti monsters and red alpha
analog frigate
until the extension, can't really say
warped wigeon
This game's lore is super interesting, initially when I started playing I didn't think it had any
thin badge
I dont think its mars because it has like a small fraction of gravity of earth
warped wigeon
Well they did say it has a somewhat breathable atmosphere so it definitely can't
analog frigate
This game's lore is super interesting, initially when I started playing I didn't...
it goes very very deep
analog frigate
@subtle verge if it was not biofuel i'd be dead
subtle verge
Are those pumps? Sorry, on mobile atm.
analog frigate
rods
subtle verge
Where is that located?
analog frigate
D3 RAERCTOR
subtle verge
Gotcha. I still need to do that mission.
I'll take a peek when I get home. I'm even more curious now.
subtle verge
Just wanted to wish all of my lore brothers, sisters, and everything outside and in between a happy holidays if you celebrate, or a joyous winter/summer solstice. ❤️
wild plank
Just wanted to wish all of my lore brothers, sisters, and everything outside and...
Yeah you too buddy
may your every shot splatter a skull
dapper pine
may your every shot splatter a skull
may the HEL Rifle ever be in your favor
iron silo
Have R6 logs been logged somewhere online yet?
analog frigate
duck is currently adding them to the wiki
analog frigate
some are still missing but they should be there soon
thick yoke
Civil unrest, Venezuela , hmmm....
analog frigate
yeah that talks about how they are sending hackett (?) to venezuela
or at least someone to contact him so he can join Legion
thick yoke
Wasn't this email about Bishop?
hot burrow
Thats about Bishop
lilac island
it was bishop who went to venezuela for having blackmail, he was expected to die in the civil war
weak galleon
so is this rundown expanding on the 4 players memories and backstories?
hollow bough
this rundown is more about the world, universe, and the enemies, less about the 4 players
real pewter
ALIENS
weak galleon
im really new to this game and the lore seems awesome
hollow bough
yeah, lol, we have actual aliens now
they said the enemies weren't aliens, well now we have some aliens
weak galleon
how are aliens involved
real pewter
it shouldn't be aliens
hollow bough
you'll see in A1, B1, B2, D1
real pewter
since we're traveling into an alternate timeline and dimension
hollow bough
and a couple other expeditions they're in
weak galleon
im on b1 with the flying orb tentacle things
hollow bough
yeah, those
real pewter
im on b1 with the flying orb tentacle things
oof
shouldn't be here if you don't want spoiler
hollow bough
they're not from Earth, we go to their planet in another dimension or something along those lines
real pewter
they're not from Earth, we go to their planet in another dimension or something ...
have you beaten d4?
hollow bough
and yeah, be careful of spoilers, unless you want to be spoiled
yeah
I am stuck on D2 Extreme and D3 PE
beat all the rest
real pewter
ye, we're traveling to alternate dimension or timeline
hollow bough
yeah, D4 plays on that time warp stuff, weird, reveals that the sleepers aren't completely dormant either
real pewter
that's why we got a disease with no cure
hollow bough
since you travel to the same zone but with different enemies in the same area
or that is the alternate time line/dimension stuff
real pewter
yup
real pewter
there is also 2 logs in there indicate that
i'm not 100% in the lore but i know some stuff
hollow bough
so they were investigating this time and dimension stuff to find a cure in one of those places?
because they can't get a cure in their area?
real pewter
yup
hollow bough
makes sense
real pewter
so i think the story was?
we go into the crate
find something down there + a disease
spread it out to the world
KSD use the dimension stuff to travel to different dimension/timeline with the thing in A1
hollow bough
so it is confirmed that it did actually spread around the world? isn't confined in the complex?
real pewter
the Artifact 7
real pewter
so it is confirmed that it did actually spread around the world? isn't confined ...
yup
in R5, 1 guy escape out of the complex
real pewter
a log in R5E1
hollow bough
so who?
real pewter
a scientist
hollow bough
oh, a log in R5E1
real pewter
or someone work in the complex
escape out to tell the Truth tv or whatever
about the complex, spread the disease
hollow bough
Speak The Truth FM I think
I heard a couple of those logs from other rundowns
not the one in R5 about escaping
hollow bough
I am gonna check that out rq on the website
real pewter
that was the main thing?, not an expert but that about it
wild plank
Speak The Truth FM I think
State Of Truth
hollow bough
ah, state of truth, right
real pewter
whoever got the virus will be 100% isolate
ember goblet
´´and Frank Bishop (hereafter referred to as the Employee) WHEREBY IT IS AGREED AS FOLLOWS: 1. This contract is not subject to the Revised Conditions of Employment Act of 2014 or any subsequent amendments.
2. The Employer undertakes to hire the Employee as a network technician with the period of the contract being from 05/18/2017 to *-06/01/2020, ´´
have anyone the beginning of this log (D1)?
devout geyser
have anyone the beginning of this log (D1)?
EBDT-WDX-5RA
CONTRACT OF EMPLOYMENT
BETWEEN:
Santonian Strategic Investments Company (hereafter referred to as the Employer)
and
Frank Bishop (hereafter referred to as the Employee)
WHEREBY IT IS AGREED AS FOLLOWS:
1. This contract is not subject to the Revised Conditions of Employment Act of 2014 or any subsequent amendments.
2. The Employer undertakes to hire the Employee as a **network technician** with the period of the contract being from **05/18/2017** to **06/01/2020**.
3 The first month of the Employee's contract of employment shall be a probation period. The Employer may terminate the contract with immediate effect should the employee not perform satisfactorily.
4. In the event of the Employee not performing as expected during probation period, the Employee understands that payment may be withheld indefinitely pending board review.
6. The Employee acknowledges that they may be asked to perform “additional tasks” over and above the primary tasks for which they are employed. Refusal to perform “additional tasks” will be considered a breach of contract, and any compensation due to the employee may be withheld indefinitely pending review.
7. The Employee agrees to terminate any existing employment contract with any other Employer immediately.
8. Any intellectual property created after this agreement shall be considered property of the Employer.
9. Any litigation proceedings resulting from the Employers appropriation of the Employees intellectual property, whether before or after this agreement, will be financed and accounted for solely by the Employee.
10. No additional renumeration will be provided for any work conducted by the Employee, either as part of their employment duties outlined in this agreement, or as private enterprise conducted after this agreement is in effect.
11. For purposes of this agreement, "Confidential Information" shall include all information or material that has or could have commercial value or other utility in the business in which the Employer is engaged.
12. The Employee shall hold and maintain any Confidential Information in strictest confidence for the sole and exclusive benefit of the Employer. Should a breach of this non-disclosure agreement occur, the Employee acknowledges the right of the Employer to restrict all travel by the Employee until the matter is resolved pending board review.
13. The Employee acknowledges that a breach of this non-disclosure agreement grants the Employer the right to temporarily detain the Employee at an undisclosed location indefinitely pending board review.
>> Encryption checksum mismatch. Contact your IT administrator
NNT-453Y
D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.med_core/sec_A_all.flagged
From: Andre PirosA134
To: all@A001.A999
Date: Oct 2nd 2053
Subject: Hammerstein redaction
I have redacted classified information from the Dr. Hammerstein report regarding the exploration of the fossil. This version of the report can be declassified for standard B tier clearance and above.
The report follows.
Andre Piros A134
---------------------------------------
This is the report of Dr. Gallus Hammerstein, lead researcher and co-founder of Project Insight. I have authorized expeditions into the following zones of the fossil:
[redacted]
[redacted]
These locations are collectively known as "the Inner". This area has a separate classification due to evidence of geologic compacting and sedimentary settling. This implies an ancient impact or explosion. You may read my report titled [redacted] for further information on those findings.
Having pinpointed the location of several chambers in zones [redacted] and [redacted], I have approved a comprehensive mapping and exploration of those zones. I am certain these chambers are not the result of natural geologic processes. An initial report, by one of my staff (not me) suggested they were lava tunnels. I have rejected that conclusion as there is no evidence of volcanic activity in this area and the chambers are too symmetrical to have been formed by any natural mechanism.
I believe we are looking at evidence of [redacted]. I am confident that the chambers were been constructed by [redacted], though, as yet we do not know how or why they were made. Certainly, a great mystery for me to tackle.
I have ordered any objects found within the Inner to remain in situ for the time being. It is my responsibility to establish protocols for all future explorations, so we will start as if we were freshmen archeologists, shifting soil for the first time. We will organize and classify first, then once more is known we shall consider excavation, removal, and transportation. As I believe any artifacts we find will be [redacted], we will need to stay alert to the possibility of [redacted].
We have established a new catalogue for this work. My staff suggested we call it the Hammerstein Collection. It seems as good a choice as any.
The following reports offer further insight into this enigma:
[redacted]
[redacted]
[redacted]
Dr. Gallus Hammerstein
Project Insight Lead Researcher & Co-founder.
What is the difference between legion and a KSO?
harsh saffron
Pretty sure every member of Legion is a KSO.
But not every KSO is a member of Legion.
If that makes sense.
ok not so sure anymore every member of legion is a KSO, forget what I said 😅
finite vine
And every KSO is a member of legion?
I think what you said previously might be correct, Every member of legion is technically a KSO, but every KSO is not a member of legion.
harsh saffron
could be, I was thinking about the different generations of KSOs, like omega and tau generations instead of legion. And I'm not sure if legion has not a single other department to it. Like at least a small team of idk, Scientists to oversee the operation (although they mabye just went: "eh, it's fine, BIOCOM is enough")
icy swift
KSOs were just the normal security guys guarding the perimeter and restricted zones?
Legion people are those like mercenaries, who are made to do different tasks and then go back to their HSUs or pods
dull orchid
agile plinth
agile plinth
KSOs were just the normal security guys guarding the perimeter and restricted zo...
Legion are made into KSOs
but anyone else with military experience can become a KSO
as long as KDS will hire them
agile plinth
whoever got the virus will be 100% isolate
possibly but real world public reaction shows that stuff like that isn't very likely unless the military starts enforcing it
agile plinth
in R5, 1 guy escape out of the complex
Schaeffer isn't out of the complex yet as of what we know
the only way out or in is the main shaft
and the crane
which he can't use since it's under Warden control
agile plinth
so i think the story was?
SMC makes an iridium mine, they find the original meteorite from Chicxulub, that releases NAM-V and sleepers, the world dies out and only KSOs are alive, the BIOCOM got taken over at some point and became the Warden, we are sent down into Garganta to do it's bidding
agile plinth
so they were investigating this time and dimension stuff to find a cure in one o...
not really
they are investigating it since it's a new dimension
discoveries to make
SMC and Kovac don't really care that much about the virus since WHO and others are supposedly handling it
agile plinth
so it's a different timeline/dimension, not the enemies moving
you are just teleporting to another part of Garganta
since the data cube was tampered with, it sort of makes sense why you end up there and not on Red Alpha
agile plinth
they're not from Earth, we go to their planet in another dimension or something ...
oof that's a complicated story if the sleeper species actually originates from Red Alpha
since sleepers are mostly mutated humans (or at least related to DNA wise) and the other kinds could be the original species of Red Alpha except infected with the sleeper species parasite
agile plinth
it shouldn't be aliens
it's exactly aliens in any regard
except sleepers
those don't fit any description currently
that should be all
sorry for all the pings
hollow bough
you are just teleporting to another part of Garganta
It seems to be another dimension but still Garganta, because during the last two teleports using the data cubes, you return to the first zones, 410-412, and there is different resources/enemies.
solemn kraken
It seems to be another dimension but still Garganta, because during the last two...
Also the map is disabled (disconnected) just like it is on Alpha two and one
hollow bough
Yes, that's true, so I'm pretty sure it is dimensional travel, but still in Garganta
agile plinth
it is still Garganta
solemn kraken
Yes, that's true, so I'm pretty sure it is dimensional travel, but still in Garg...
Like another Garganta in another dimension, only then there are like three, cause I think there is three different timelines/dimensions in D4
agile plinth
the zoning seems proper
agile plinth
Like another Garganta in another dimension, only then there are like three, caus...
it could be two
solemn kraken
I would have to replay it
hollow bough
It could be infinite different dimensions of different versions of Garganta
We don't know how many there could be
If that is what this is, dimensional travel stuff
Roger that
solemn kraken
well there goes that 😄
hollow bough
Yeah, lots of crazy stuff is no longer potentially on the plate lol
agile plinth
yeah well we've been on it
still a lot to explain
connections to make
well doc, even when such a situation of inexplicability appears, we'll still make sense of it
(if we can)
frail pollen
i do enjoy reading some of the theories y'all have come up with. some true, some not so much.
agile plinth
well keep the cloth over our eyes
we like making the theories and the truth might be satisfying for a moment but then you don't need to think about the lore anymore
hollow bough
I went through all the logs I missed last night, it's getting interesting
agile plinth
and you'll be stuck behind an NDA most likely
hollow bough
It is already interesting, but increasingly so with every new log
agile plinth
very
even without logs, revelations can be made
punk is still working on the relations that Gustavo had
there are some possibilities of why contact with Garganta ceased
after the jump that is
subtle verge
My current theory is that Jansen & Gustavo had a bad business relationship after only a year; either Gustavo didn't know what he was getting in to, or there was some clash of heads, and either in paranoia of Gustavo telling the UN on the going-ons inside of Garganta, or in a means of self-preservation for himself, SMC & Kovac, tampered with the Hammerstein Probe with bad data, and severed the connection between the expedition team and Garganta, making it look like a catastrophic accident but in reality it being a cold & calculated plan to remove a loose end at the expense of innocent researchers.
Thus leaving Gustavo & other researchers + KSOs to die horrible painful deaths.
agile plinth
ay punk
subtle verge
A week later, Bishop returns with the Matter Wave Projector, queue Jansen's: "Oh fuck, here comes a shark," (if you get that reference, +100 from me) send him to the HSU, wipe his memory, problem solved, problem staying solved.
Yo Daraxus
agile plinth
yeah you need to formulate the txt you sent me
subtle verge
It's all in that txt post in the DMs; what's above is just a TL;DR.
The .txt file just has references to logs and other things to point specifics.
subtle verge
Will do
agile plinth
the headers look nice on them
subtle verge
That's... Microsoft Word?
subtle verge
I'm a Linux boy. Kek
agile plinth
win 11
i used linux for a while
still have my arch build
but windows 11 is better
like windows 10 but more linux
anyways back on lore
subtle verge
I dropped the GDoc in our DMs, Daraxus.
subtle verge
hollow bough
and from what we can tell so far, the symptoms of NAM-V in the logs, it seems like that's what creates the sleepers, yes
idk if it's 100% confirmed though, but it is pretty clear that's what caused it, just not directly mentioned yet
👍
agile plinth
NAM-V is currently only theorised to be the cause
there are certain uncertainties
but currently it's a possibility
we as the prisoners, are the last remaining humans due to being KSOs sealed in HSUs
isolated from the world
the Warden is in fact an AI
and we aren't clones but real people with backgrounds
also the current motives of the Warden are unknown
we are waiting for the extension to see what the E sections will show
ah also no, it's not a reference to COVID-19, it's a completely separate thing in the GTFO universe
covid is referenced as being a past pandemic, so this one is completely different
finite vine
the Warden is in fact an AI
The warden is not just an AI, someone has to be controlling biocom and keeping it in check.