gtfo-lore

[analog frigate]

so it is a parallel universe of sort

[leaden dagger]

and when quantum states are brought in, it's anyone's guess here

yeah

[lilac island]

entanglement just means that an effect on one will affect the other in the same way, teleportation isn't really related

[analog frigate]

which means Alpha Planet must be earth???

[leaden dagger]

but we don't know what the quantum tethering is

[lilac island]

this is all sci fi mumbojumbo, it has no real connection to the real concepts

[analog frigate]

ah

[leaden dagger]

it could be an additive property to entanglement

[lilac island]

a quantum tether in the case of B1 is held open by the creatures, so it's more akin to the portal to xen from half-life

[leaden dagger]

one object tethered to 2 realities

[analog frigate]

relates to quantum physics but it's a very hypothetical concept so no one really talks about it

basically 2 particles are interlinked and any change in one results in the same change of the other

[leaden dagger]

yes

[analog frigate]

which means them switching places works out

you "teleport" because you switch with the matter at the desired location

[lilac island]

well no, quantum entanglement isn't the mumbo jumbo, it being connected to teleportation isn't really talked about because it's not really how it would work

[leaden dagger]

it especially works if we subscribe to multiverse theory

[leaden dagger]

this is true

[lilac island]

entanglement doesn't change what the particle is, just the properties of it

i.e spin and polarity

[leaden dagger]

I think we need more info on it before we can conclude. tethering may mean something entirely different here

or they didn't know how to explain it so they chose quantum:/

which I have a big pet peeve of

[lilac island]

so far, tethering seems to work how portal tech worked in half-life, where a portal was accidentally opened from earth, but was able to be kept open by the nihilanth from the other side, in xen

[analog frigate]

we don't have much of any info on the crystals except that they teleport you when touched

[leaden dagger]

maybe if they extend this rundown we'll find more? unless it's buried in the D levels

[lilac island]

maybe

[analog frigate]

there is probably more in D

it's just reaching there is the hard part

[leaden dagger]

yuh

[lilac island]

not as hard as i would suspect based on how i was able to get through A1 and B1 on my own with just the bots, this rundown definitely seems to be a bit lighter on things

cause i can tell you now i am NOT very good at this game

[leaden dagger]

😂

[analog frigate]

it's mainly tedious

[leaden dagger]

those levels are very easy tbn

tbh

and yeah

[lilac island]

never gotten deep enough to hit an E tier with my friends, and we usually get stuck on C tiers

[analog frigate]

i wonder if we will see E1

[lilac island]

likely if they have an extension on this one

[leaden dagger]

yuh

[analog frigate]

it probably will be something related to Schaeffer

[leaden dagger]

honestly I find an extension on this one pretty likely

[analog frigate]

there were always E tiers

and there are none now

it will be added soon probably

[lilac island]

E tier has only happened 3 times

2 of them were a part of extensions

[leaden dagger]

R1 didn't have an E I thought

[lilac island]

R1 didn't, R3 didn't, and until R4 and R5 were extended, they didn't either

R2 is the only one to have an E tier out of the box

[analog frigate]

then we will get an extension soon

[lilac island]

and it is still pretty up there as one of my favorite rundowns, that one was so good

"soon" likely means a couple months from now

they usually give it a good minute before it's extended

[leaden dagger]

yuh

[analog frigate]

weirdly the roadmap doesn't have any E tiers planned

[leaden dagger]

first theyre gonna prioritize bug fixes

[analog frigate]

also it still says that the game is not done anyway

[lilac island]

i'm in a funky position with this game's lore, i like putting stuff together for myself too much but also wanna keep spoilers to a minimum lol x(

[lilac island]

they keep extensions hidden until close to their release

we'll know about it probably a couple days in advance or maybe a week or so

i love reading into the pseudo-scientific mechanics of how a lot of stuff in this game works lore-wise

the quantum tether is definitely a little more handwavey than a lot of previous stuff

[leaden dagger]

yuh

[lilac island]

the reasonings for why the complex is where it is and why it's built is all very grounded and realistic, hydrostasis can be connected with some of the fake chemicals found in some objectives that are extensions of how real life biochemicals interact with the brain during sleep, and to some extent the way that whatever is happening got to earth seems to parallel the theory of panspermia with the whole dune thing being a different planet/dimension

but i mean, teleportation is definitely up there in the whacky so i don't really know how they'd do it better either

[analog frigate]

don't bother

just say stuff

it's the lore channel

lore is lore

[lilac island]

no i mean keeping spoilers at a minimum for my eyes and ears

[analog frigate]

ah

[lilac island]

this place is definitely for spoilers it's just so hard to keep the balance between connecting the dots and seeing what i'm not supposed to yet

[leaden dagger]

😂

finish the levels 1st then come

oh no

daraxus

how do we explain the bots

[analog frigate]

yeah?

[scenic wagon]

do you think we are having more stargate- esque travel segments in future rundowns?

[leaden dagger]

😔😔😔

[analog frigate]

stupid KSOs

[leaden dagger]

who can say at this point

AMOGUS GTFO

[analog frigate]

currently we can't say a lot even for R6

[scenic wagon]

my entire team enjoyed the desert setting

[leaden dagger]

it's very cool

[lilac island]

we might have to find our way out of the complex by going offworld

[leaden dagger]

you don't move in this world though when you're there

they're separate but connected

evident by A1

[scenic wagon]

yes

and B-1

you get back right in the portal room

[analog frigate]

this is all quite interesting

but it's pretty late

so i have to go

cya

[lilac island]

finding our way doesn't mean we have to stay there, we could just find a tool or something that could give us the opportunity to leave the complex

[leaden dagger]

cya

[agile plinth]

it could work something like the minecraft nether

as in

you go in Alpha Planet, traverse the dunes, then go back

and that's how you can skip through sections or something

[leaden dagger]

i dont think its really that likely?

[agile plinth]

not really

but seems interesting

[fair lion]

What year is it

I don't follow the lore much so idk if we're told when the game takes place

[leaden dagger]

we dont know for sure

some time after 2054 as far as we know

[winged lagoon]

What is KDS Deep? And is Legion storage just server racks for Biocom or long term storage for the HSUs?

[pastel knot]

2nd one

[leaden dagger]

KDS Deep is the location where KSO operatives were kept in hydrostasis units, which you see at the end of R5E1

the entire story of the rundowns before 5 was diverting power to KDS deep, as per the wardens request

to i think grant it more permissions and to gain access to said operatives

R6 canonically takes place before R5

so we're in the past right now

as far as im aware

and Legion is the program that the prisoners are in

and so legion storage is the long term storage of HSU's, yes

[solar nova]

https://youtu.be/SOKAwpXOL_U

https://youtu.be/bALhCfJ2j1A

[leaden dagger]

thanks boss

i always forget to record things

idk if this is here yet or nah

[proven wadi]

Anyone here willing to fill me in as to whats exactly going on here?

So i what i know is that we are prisoners (who are probably murderers or some shit. Obviously with decent proficiency with firearms, so... Street soldiers? Mercs? Robbers?) Who are sent to investigate and get shit from a impact sight turned facility by the warden. The facility i guess is corporate made.

What is the warden and the higher powers trying to achive here? Trying to figure out what happened? Trying to re-populate the facility? Trying to understand and weaponize the creatures that dwell in it?

Why the hell is the warden using a 4 man team of prisoners anyway? Its obvious they keep using us over and over again to the brink of madness. Why not use a whole ass battalion of well geared corporate mercenarys instead of just 4 dudes with decent weapons? Is the warden not supposed to be fucking with the facility so hes using prisoners as plausible deniability or some shit?

If anyone can answer these questions, thatd be very helpful!

[lilac island]

prisoners aren't necessarily prisoners for good reasons. the audio logs are gone since rundown 5 left us, but the gyst is:

woods was a soldier who went nutso during a war in turkey, turning on his own fellow marines and killing many of them, earning his place within a program called the legion program. dauda was a doctor in the facility who locked himself in hydrostasis to avoid being killed by the monsters during the outbreak that left the facility in it's current state, but is still wracked with the nightmares he had from prior to going under. hackett volunteered to go into the program to try and "reset" himself, he has no emotions or guilt when it comes to killing innocents, and thinks he'll do better after resetting his brain. bishop was an intern, who tried to blackmail the complex's parent company figurehead, and survived an assassination attempt, and so was thrown into the program

the warden is a decision intelligence AI in control of giving operatives work within the complex, entirely automated, and with mostly unknown intentions, with what we do know being that our objectives thus far have been to give the warden more access to security systems and different bits and bobs around the complex, with the ends unknown.

the entire rundown protocol is based around getting the most done with the least amount of resources, meaning not full ammo, not high end weapons, not armored, just the bare minimum to have a chance at success without sinking too much cost. the prisoners are themselves the corporate mercenaries, tools used to the end of doing what ever needed while being expendible.

this is all bare minimum answers, those questions are hugely loaded with tons of information going back 2 years of different rundowns

the complex is called garganta, and was constructed in the location of the chicxulub crater, the crater of the meteor impact that killed the dinosaurs

the reason? iridium. prices are high as its being used in new tech, and the metal is so dense that in earths formation, they sunk to the core of the earth, so any iridium found will show up in impact sites from meteors

[proven wadi]

@lilac island Thanks!

[fiery hamlet]

Can i get a quick rundown of the lore?

From what i can understand so far u play as a mentally ill prisoner who gets sent down as cannon fodder to investigate some kinda abandoned labratory where an experiment went wrong

[pale wharf]

^^^

[fiery hamlet]

Awesome thank you so much

The tone and horror of this game is just perfect

@lilac island i just have one more question to ask

What are the creatures we are fighting? Where did they come from?

[timid palm]

ooo

[fiery hamlet]

And ofc the biggest question is whatsup with being teleported to the Arizona desert lookin place and the flying squids?

[lilac island]

we don't know exactly what the creatures are, almost all of them are humanoid except for those weird medusa/matrix sentinel/cacodemon lookin mfs

our traveling to dune makes me believe that they are otherworldly in origin, but whether it's just from another planet, or if it's extradimensional, i don't know

it parallels with the idea of panspermia: the idea that life was brought to earth by a meteor impact, given that this seemingly alien life is found deep within the impact crater of a meteor

[empty junco]

going through the lore makes me wish there was a book for gtfo haha

[upbeat frost]

I don't think the wall is a sandworm

[woven pollen]

A GTFO graphic novel would SLAP

[analog frigate]

again, ty rayalot

[fair lion]

wat

A1 door voice said things about resist and go deeper

which were from R5

[lilac island]

do we know what ||alpha 2|| is?

||it looks like a different planet, and the flying jellyfish things don’t look like they’re related to sleepers||

||also is there a name for those flying jellyfish?||

||I’ve only gotten to C1, so if the answers require spoilers of the next levels don’t tell me||

[agile plinth]

what?

[agile plinth]

it's a planet in another dimension as far as we have discovered

currently we don't have a name for them except flyers

[lilac island]

||does it have any relations to the sleepers found in the facility?||

[agile plinth]

btw no need to censor things in this channel

[agile plinth]

they appear to ve the same species

[lilac island]

yeah, but i don’t wanna ruin someone’s gameplay who accidentally stumbled here so just in case

they are?

[agile plinth]

appear so

[lilac island]

hmm

[agile plinth]

then it's their fault for going in the literal deep dive into the game channel

[lilac island]

||haven’t gotten a good look at any of them yet but they don’t resemble each other even remotely||

||if i had to find a relation, maybe with chargers? due to their armor covering their “eyes”||

[agile plinth]

they fly and move through the air with tenticles

[lilac island]

yeah, just haven’t gotten a good look at their detailed appearances since they won’t stay still

[agile plinth]

currently we think they are filled with some sort of lighter than air gas

and that explains why they just pop when you kill them

[lilac island]

hmm yeah

the sound design of them is absolutely top notch

[atomic ruin]

wouldnt that mean they would just float upwards forever tho?

[agile plinth]

also I've played b1 a couple times with c1 and got a good look at them

[agile plinth]

no

[atomic ruin]

like a helium balloon?

[agile plinth]

yes but a helium ballon has more gas lift than weight

[lilac island]

they probably can control movement with their tentacles

[agile plinth]

while they could be filled to a certain amount as to remain floating in place

they could also regulate the amount to go up or down

[lilac island]

or kinda like fish, control the gas intake?

[lone cairn]

Angry spaghetti
Flying meatballs
The leftovers in the back of the fridge

Are my votes to the canon names

[delicate creek]

aliens

[agile plinth]

maybe

[lilac island]

let gas out to descend, create more to ascend

[agile plinth]

thanks sader

[atomic ruin]

they look like headcrabs that took flight

[lilac island]

i just called them jellyfish

[agile plinth]

actually jellyfish are the best example of jow they work

[lilac island]

kinda looked like the mimics in edge of tomorrow

[agile plinth]

just float and swim in the air

[agile plinth]

true, but those don't shoot and just throw themselves

[lilac island]

also the air there is probably different from earth right?

[agile plinth]

yes

[lilac island]

yeah, just the appearance

[agile plinth]

check the log by Dr. Derant

rayalot recorded it

[lilac island]

mind tossing me a link?

[delicate creek]

have you done d1 yet @agile plinth

[agile plinth]

basically it's tolerable but still an issue

[lilac island]

the air?

[agile plinth]

not c1 even but I'm not at home

[delicate creek]

oh, i recommend doing the first main 4 missions before the others then
like the ones highlighted in yellow

[agile plinth]

I'll be back in the late afternoon

[agile plinth]

yeah i know

[delicate creek]

seems they tell a story, and they're all relatively easy

[lilac island]

C1 was an absolute blast

||the moving alarm bit was amazing||

[agile plinth]

the c1 8 scout room was scary

[atomic ruin]

mm yes

[lilac island]

isnt it 5?

[atomic ruin]

scout hell

[agile plinth]

nah man 8

[lilac island]

i had 5 scouts

the big room with only scouts in it behind a normal scan door

and the door inside it has the green scan

[delicate creek]

i had 6 last time

[lilac island]

i only got 5, man i was lucky

[delicate creek]

i cant wait for your reaction to d1 @agile plinth

[agile plinth]

👀

[lilac island]

haven’t gotten that deep yet, can’t wait to try it though

[agile plinth]

you mean the big worm?

I've already discussed it with other people lorewise

[delicate creek]

it looks nothing like a worm

[agile plinth]

i don't care if i get spoiled as long as it allows me to explain stuff

[lilac island]

ok ill catch yall in this convo later after i cleared d1

adios

[agile plinth]

adios

[agile plinth]

it is a worm

on the front when it comes out of the ground

[delicate creek]

its a flyer actually

[agile plinth]

it has like a digging style mouth

what

[atomic ruin]

its big, thats what it is

[delicate creek]

tentacles at the bottom of it, and its flying around

[agile plinth]

it flies out of the ground??

oh

[delicate creek]

ground is way too far away to see

[agile plinth]

someone missed to show me that detail

that's why i need to see it firsthand

[delicate creek]

its pretty bizarre how sleeper like it looks

[agile plinth]

tonight I'll be back and if you want we can do it

[delicate creek]

in how long is that

[agile plinth]

it's 3pm rn so around 4-5 hours

[delicate creek]

might be available by then

[agile plinth]

aight

anyway

keep the questions coming

the more ideas the better

[delicate creek]

flyers or aliens

[agile plinth]

flyers in specifics, aliens in general

[delicate creek]

name suggestions for the massive one? big flyer sounds lame

[agile plinth]

alpha flyer

hence the name of the outpost and planet

[delicate creek]

i can live with that

[heavy lodge]

Are these black ores iridium?

[atomic ruin]

probably

[agile plinth]

not likely

they are used in the wave matter projector

and they allow teleportation

literally touching them is bad

[atomic ruin]

something happens when you touch em?

[agile plinth]

that's why in one of the door opening logs is says they have to be coated immediately as not to cause issues

[agile plinth]

two workers touched a piece and instantly disappeared

[atomic ruin]

extradimentional materials

wellok

[agile plinth]

yep

[atomic ruin]

but given that

couldn't the prisoners just become
not prisoners via extradimentional fuckery

[agile plinth]

nope

none of them understand it

when Dr. Derant was teleported over to the planet there was no contact with Garganta anymore

so most of the info about Alpha Planet was left there

[heavy lodge]

So probably the company planned to mine iridium but found these new ores then they set up facility sectors to research them then fucked up and teleported some random monsters and virus that infected most people? 🤔

[shut mountain]

Technically I guess you could, but Id rather not die at a unknown place where there are flying eldritch gods thank you

[agile plinth]

yeah the alpha flyer isn't very friendly💀

[lilac island]

flying eldritch gods lol

[atomic ruin]

as apposed to dying 900 meters below in rooms infested with sleepers

[agile plinth]

that's a long answer to that question

[lilac island]

who knows, maybe if you don’t bother them they might be friendly?

[agile plinth]

I've been studying the system of sleepers

they are highly territorial

they don't hunt or search for anything

[shut mountain]

I call it Mountain Fleshtrap cause it looks like a venus fly traps just added tentacles and the ability to fly. Also another name that I cannot say cause server rules lmao

[shut mountain]

Good point, they look squishy and loveable otherwise

[agile plinth]

well NDAs are NDAs

[shut mountain]

Oh, it's not NDA, it's NSFW 💀

[agile plinth]

bruh

[lilac island]

maybe they were just curious at these new weird life forms that just popped up but then they started shooting

[atomic ruin]

somehow

i doubt it

[agile plinth]

no

[lilac island]

their roar sound is pretty intimidating though

[agile plinth]

alright time to explain

[lilac island]

i was quite scared when i first heard the roar

didn’t know what to expect

[agile plinth]

so, the Garganta facility is built on the meteorite that killed the dinosaurs

it was most likely teleported on accident randomly to earth

[atomic ruin]

tbh i didnt hear a roar at all when i encountered em
was busy trying to not die

[agile plinth]

the sleepers were within the meteorite for a while until it was drilled into

after that there was most likely pure chaos on both sides

[lilac island]

you know in the facility when you start an alarm a roar sounds to indicate where the wave is coming from?

[agile plinth]

leading to aggressive territorial behavior from the sleepers

[lilac island]

same with the flyers, that spine chilling noise when a wave comes

[atomic ruin]

as i said
busy trying not to die

[agile plinth]

if you are hunting for lore then dying is only a small setback

[merry frost]

are the sleepers humans that have been infected with NAM-V or are they a different species?

[tame goblet]

We don't know yet

[quartz harness]

Hi, i really like lore and im new to the game, is there some sort of document I can read to get caught up?

[cobalt mulch]

check the pinned stuff of this channel

timelines etc

[quartz harness]

Oki, thanks!

[agile plinth]

currently the main theory is alien life forms evolved to a humanoid form by copying us, as to survive earth's environment

[cobalt mulch]

the dead bodies on the floors of rundown 5 that had their heads beginning to split like sleepers, the faces they still have.. to my eyes they seem like mutatef humans that chewed their own fingers off.. but we do not know.

[agile plinth]

chase has made a nice database pinned in the channel

[agile plinth]

mainly they appear to be dead sleepers killed by KDS KSOs

matches up from a log about the insight system i believe

not completely sure though

[cobalt mulch]

it is intriguing af, and its an absolute pleasure watching u guys speculate and decipher

[agile plinth]

that's the best we can do

currently i have to completely familiarize myself with the rest of R6

and not all logs have been found and posted yet so

[lilac island]

woo

[cobalt mulch]

schaeffer door with the legion -dejavu was very cool

word for word what u guys suspected all along

[agile plinth]

not exactly but close

[white minnow]

I'd like to have a quick rundown of things that changed or were added since beta in the lore

[agile plinth]

there isn't a quick version unfortunately

the best you can do is to read the database made by chase

it's pinned by ravenna in this channel

i can say a sort of shortened version once i get back home

[white minnow]

Thx for the lore update and I'll be looking forward to that short version

[agile plinth]

also by beta you mean early access?

[sharp pebble]

is there a correct lore order to play through the rundown?

I do it level by level A1, B1, B2, C1, C2, C3... or should I go ABCD and then B2, C2 etc

[frail pollen]

You can do either all the story first then do the remaining of the tier, or do a full tier before the next

[covert ember]

I have realized that the men with the split open heads look like the “eye” on the meatballs

[white minnow]

Yes

[royal finch]

Yo, I've been thinking, Davis wasn't mentioned for a bit, and Hearsay was spoken about in big secrecy for whatever reason, and since we don't know who or what The Warden is, could it be possible that It's Davis using Hearsay to operate everything?

Cause Davis seems to be playing a much bigger role than "evil man let out a virus, it destroyed everything and he wasn't mentioned eversince"

Just thinkin' if it could be possible.

[indigo gale]

So I just finished the first expedition for this rundown, first one I ever finished too, bit curious about this "conversation" that happens with the security scan before the room with the device you need to retrieve.

Also, what the hell was that about when we got "teleported" to this other place when I picked the device up?

[fervent lagoon]

Schaeffer is the person talking and he was a prisoner as well that escaped and is now talking to us

[blissful helm]

Schaeffer

[fervent lagoon]

That makes more sense

[blissful helm]

scaeffer 😩

[fervent lagoon]

The teleport thing js new and we dont really know yet, iirc its speculated that either we are teleporting to mars or a “dimensional rip”

[indigo gale]

Huh, that's interesting.

Has he hacked into the facility's intercoms or something?

[fervent lagoon]

I dont know too much about the lore, thats just what I remember and it may be wrong

Supposedly hes leaving logs on terminals etc.

[indigo gale]

That's very curious.

And that whole teleport thing was very odd indeed.

That place I ended up in was definitely not earth, especially with the strange crystals or whatever they were coming out of the ground.

What if this is some kind of "memory" for whatever world the infection came from?

[gilded vine]

It doesnt feel like a memory since we travel there frequently to complete objectives

[indigo gale]

Hmmm.

Something is certainly very wrong here then if we are ending up in some other dimension or world.

[analog frigate]

it's most likely interdimensional

[snow yarrow]

any logs shows what the black crystal stuff is in matter wave projector?

[burnt light]

I'm a bit lost with the new stuff. Is that whole "it's not zombies, it's not aliens" thing still true or they completely changed the premise?

[solar nova]

Good question.

Not sure what to think of the flying "not aliens" enemies.

[leaden dagger]

yeah

very confusing things

[opaque trail]

so is there anywhere on the wiki where one can find the collection of data logs from the terminals?

[solar nova]

Check pins, lore database.

[analog frigate]

they are aliens for sure

[opaque trail]

eh could argue their ancient monstrosities

[solar nova]

Seems like they're clearly not terrestrial, though.

[opaque trail]

🤷‍♂️

[analog frigate]

also dagga how the hell is this before R5?

have we gotten fully what years the rundown occurs in

[opaque trail]

TSM

[quick bane]

I am assuming that whatever caused the ruin of the facility was some sort of advanced bio-contaminant related to the crystals, and that the artifacts are devices that attempted to harness the power of the crystals to achieve miraculous feats like teleportation. The actual nature of the bio-contaminant is still unknown to me, though, it seems to cause mutations and the mutations differ from person to person (for example, men seem to become the melee monsters while women morph into the ranged creatures or scouts). It also seems to just outright kill people as well (based on the bloated and distorted corpses we see scattered throughout the levels.) I think it is safe to assume that the crystals are extraterrestrial, but that the mutants and monsters we fight are not aliens, just lifeforms mutated by the influence of the crystals (whatever that may be).

[leaden dagger]

idk man i honestly dont remember saying that 😂 i was very tired

i thought i saw it somewhere but honestly i dont remember

so its probably false

[analog frigate]

big lore drop but somewhat false

the crystals cause nothing except teleportation

[hybrid depot]

Wait so where does the teleporter bring us? I thought it brought us to the surace, Mexico

[solar nova]

B2

[analog frigate]

it's Alpha Planet

somewhere in another dimension

[lilac island]

the complex is built into the chicxulub crater, which is almost wholly underwater

it's either another planet (i'm still gonna stick with my guns and call it dune because of the sand, orange particles in the wind and sandworm things), or another dimension

[lilac island]

does anyone remember off hand what employee numbers are brought up in R6C1's door audio logs?? if we can recognize the numbers it would have some story significance

and i have a bit of a smalllllll theory that one of the two employees who were eye witnesses to some shit with those data cubes was schaeffer

i don't have any evidence, mind you, just a hunch that came on from thinking one of the employee numbers in the audio was familiar, but i can't remember what the log actually said

if schaeffer saw what was going on and got taken away by KDS for what he saw, that might be the point at which schaeffer became a prisoner

[white moth]

im gonna be working on my new video soon so im gonna be asking some questions about C1 and D1 once i finish it

like not like questions about the level but more or less what people think about my theoy

[white moth]

if someone can dm me C1 and D1 audio files for the main story pls dm them i need them for my lore video

[white moth]

hey

so i wanna know

does anyone have proof that dreyfus industries owns/ is the parent company of the mining company and kovac?

[icy swift]

yes it is

there are a few logs where andrew?(CTO of dreyfus) is communicating with saitonian saying that he is just a board member and can only guide them

kovac, im not sure

[dull orchid]

aren the black crystal iridum or something

[analog frigate]

nope

iridium doesn't teleport you

[analog frigate]

for santonian yes, but i'm not completely sure for kovak

maybe the mining branch and not KDS

[indigo gale]

That does definitely sound very plausible.

[native shuttle]

It seems from B1 they were studying something similar to Sleepers

[burnt light]

Santonian is Dreyfus' subsidiary. Kovac is a third party involved with security and research. It was KDS who contacted Davies to offer their services.

Only Kovac's research and security branches had been mentioned before.

[lilac island]

iirc the neonate HSU has a dreyfus logo and a santonian logo

yes it does

OH YEAH

there's a text log that directly mentions by name that dreyfus is santonian's parent company

[lilac island]

this is what also gave insight into the reason santonian started this mining project in the first place

[analog frigate]

@leaden dagger so i've kinda figured out what the big Kraken (as is called in the wiki) is

more so it's purpose

it appears to be a guard position

and if what @delicate creek said about it flying and not being just a big worm, then it's most likely sleeping underground and dealing with threats on the surface

even if it is a worm it will still do the same thing

but i don't get why it would be flying

[delicate creek]

i told u to come get a good look at it before killing it, its straight up a flyer

[analog frigate]

i did

i looked down

it seemed to fly yes

the movement from left to right looks very unnatural to have an attachment point somewhere down

but why would it float?

that's just odd unless there is something more about the environment we don't know

[delicate creek]

it doesnt just go left and right

it goes up and down, back and forth too

[placid gust]

I just finish B1. The flyer are from desert place right? And it somehow get teleport back with us.

[merry frost]

yes, like half life

[placid gust]

Cool

[raw island]

Has it been speculated that the place we go to in A1 and B1 is future earth? The audio log at the research outpost in B1 mentions plant samples arriving desiccated, and it’s pretty extraordinary that humans can breathe the atmosphere, even if it’s unhealthy. Sorry if this has been covered, just got the game.

[analog frigate]

i've thought of that

but there aren't enough signs pointing to it being the case

we can only speculate

[icy swift]

if only we could go there at night

[analog frigate]

you do

D1

[icy swift]

oh

havent reached there yet

[white moth]

it possible could be but its really unlikley as it talks about quantom entanglment which requires universe hopping so it would have ot be from another universe

[faint sonnet]

I kinda feel like the game talking about Mars missions and us teleporting to a place that looks like Mars seems to just imply that it is Mars

[analog frigate]

we have confirmed that it's not mars

[white moth]

also its more likley to be future mars as its talked about in a log that the missions done by Kovac was called Red Alpha and the lab found in B1 is called Alpha 1

[white moth]

wdym

[analog frigate]

the air is breathable

[white moth]

yes

but if you look at the timeline of the universe

when we hit a certain time

[analog frigate]

there is no contact to garganta, so by any means outside of the solar system

[white moth]

mars will become habitable

my therie is that its Mars from another unverse that earth never existed so mars is closer to the sun therefore making it habitable

i cant spell theorie

[analog frigate]

also quantum linking, which works by linking particles through dimensions

[heavy lodge]

theory ^

[white moth]

ty

[white moth]

?

[analog frigate]

the wave matter projector and teleportation to Red Alpha (as the wiki says the name is)

in B1

also the audio that plays when you enter

[white moth]

my theory is that the metor that killed the dinosaurs that the garganta complex is built on went through a worm hole and ended up in our universe

but the meteor was created by the creation of a moon on this planet Red Alpha

[faint sonnet]

are we sure the lore is that complex? 😮

[analog frigate]

yes

[white moth]

and when the planet broke into peices and created the moon, with it it killed live forms which later got stuck to the meteor

and also took some of the black cristals with it

so that when we discovered it

[analog frigate]

you can spend 5 hours to talk about why some fog is toxic and go into 14 different fields of science as to understand it

[white moth]

xd

it took me 3 hours to understand quantom entanglment

i still dont

[analog frigate]

that's how we figured it out earlier

[white moth]

i dont understand why it just teleports you random places

[analog frigate]

well it takes time

[white moth]

but im calling it now that the place we are at is Mars in a different universe

[analog frigate]

if you want i can try and explain it as simply as possible

[faint sonnet]

haha this is funny. me in the game to my friend "oh hey we are on mars!"
actual lore people in discord: "actually dimensions and moons and the dinosaurs and meteors and QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT"

[white moth]

nah its fine

ill learn

[analog frigate]

aight

[analog frigate]

that's why avid lore seekers like us exist

[white moth]

simple terms The planet we are at is Mars in an alternative Universe

[analog frigate]

there are simple answers without proof

[faint sonnet]

yeah i got that, haha

[white moth]

i go over the lore in my video im curently working on Part 2 now im trying to get D1 finished but none of my friends are on

[analog frigate]

here we try and find why as precisely as possible

[white moth]

i cant finish my video till i can get D1 finished

aswell as C2 C3 D2 D3 D4

xd

[analog frigate]

D4 is a pain

but very well made

the change of pace is a very nice way to contrast GTFO gameplay

[faint sonnet]

so the complex we are in is on Earth though, right?

[analog frigate]

yes

yucatan, mexico

[faint sonnet]

huh

[analog frigate]

Garganta Complex

[faint sonnet]

so, the huge shaft we get brought down along, i saw at the entrance of B1 that the metal actually went upward instead of downward. so it's not that we drilled down but something went up?

[white moth]

its where the meteor that killed the dinosaurs sits

[white moth]

no we drilled down it

[zealous tinsel]

why are we in mexico

[white moth]

its essetnially a mine shaft

converted into a facility

[faint sonnet]

ah ok,i had thought it was a "twist"

[zealous tinsel]

what

[faint sonnet]

well cause the metal is bend upward

[zealous tinsel]

where did the creatures come from then

[white moth]

just watch the part one of my video

it explains all

[zealous tinsel]

link

[white moth]

im trying to focus on finishing my new video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UntURj11WxA

[zealous tinsel]

spoilers??

[analog frigate]

yes

it's the lore cahnnel

[tall anchor]

the metal is bent upward, probably due to a large explosive mass at the bottom that went boom while they were drilling.

[analog frigate]

it is from the meteorite

[faint sonnet]

yeah it was a quick theory i had when i saw it

[analog frigate]

but not an explosion

nothing like that is mentioned

probably a Kraken

[white moth]

dont go past 5:55 and you will be fine

[burnt light]

There was a log talking about an explosion, let me find it

[white moth]

nothing is leaked for R6 before 5:55

[analog frigate]

ah alright

[tall anchor]

yeah there's a log

[white moth]

@zealous tinsel

[zealous tinsel]

okau

okay**

[white moth]

honestly i think its like a brothernmoon type of deal the creatures may have absorbed into a big one like a ultimate mother or something and broke out

thats just a theory thos

tho*

[analog frigate]

elaborate?

[burnt light]

A message from Schaeffer to Artus
"They’ve got KSOs holding off Sleepers left and right but they’re keeping it held down then suddenly BOOM. I know you must have felt it."

[analog frigate]

ah Schaeffer

no that's not the reason of the hole

[tall anchor]

Honestly, I think they’re hitting some kind of geothermal mass but everyone’s too afraid to say anything. If our probes are closing in on a geological anomaly with unknown properties, I feel like energy spikes, temperature fluctuations, seismic activity, and a shared sense of doom and fear would be a big tell, right?

[analog frigate]

he said that you could even feel it from the upper levels

[burnt light]

Few lines later
"I don’t know what it was though. Some kind of energy blast that fucked up anything in its path and left behind these molten passages."

[analog frigate]

an explosion that blows a circular hole to the surface isn't that calm as to do that

[analog frigate]

more reasons that it's a Kraken

[tall anchor]

the shaft was already created prior, therefore the molten mass went up the shaft

[analog frigate]

prior?

[tall anchor]

fancy word for before

[analog frigate]

i know

i mean that i want an explanation why prior

[tall anchor]

the shaft had been drilled, the unknown mass just went up the shaft

[analog frigate]

that's not the shaft though

it has broken metal along the sides

as if caused from below

[tall anchor]

????

The shaft just became a pilot hole for the anomaly to explode upwards, causing the metal to bend upwards

[analog frigate]

hmm

possibly

[white moth]

ok

outlandish theory

[tall anchor]

What other answer is there?

[analog frigate]

i am just denying that it is an explosion

[white moth]

but like what if the meteor was like a brothern moon, a huge biomass that crashed into earth and it eventually goes into hibernation as we mine it but wakes up and breaks out

not relaly a full explaination of what im thinking

but im too lazy to type it out

[analog frigate]

that's close to what is gathered so far

[tall anchor]

Sleepers origin is still unknown I thought?

[analog frigate]

not anymore

you know the crystals on Red Alpha?

[tall anchor]

Yeah

[analog frigate]

same ones are used to teleport with the wave matter projector

also an audio log played during opening a door in C1 i believe

[tall anchor]

okay so it was what I thought it was

[analog frigate]

it is mentioned that two workers touched a sample of it and disappeared instantly

[tall anchor]

I personally read into it that Santonian had found the crystals and then experimented with them and that's how we got them

[analog frigate]

they found them in the meteorite

after accidents they found out it allows teleportation

it can explain why the meteorite got here from another dimension

the crystals triggered and teleported the mass

[tall anchor]

Is "dimension" confirmed?

[white moth]

as my theory states that the meteor that killed the dinosaurs was formed from the planet that we visit, then it mustve crashed into earth and created a big massive crater and killed anything under it, which these flying pasta fairyinism monsters live so what if the meteor killed them but still left their bio goo on the meteor then as they got deeper into the meteor the goo began to become more surface and thats waht caused the sickness

[analog frigate]

as in Red Alpha being in a star system in another dimension?

[white moth]

essentially yes because the machine used ot teleport is a Quantom Entanglment machine

[icy swift]

so basically the sleepers got teleported here from another dimension?

[analog frigate]

yes

[white moth]

no

[analog frigate]

technically yes

[white moth]

the sleeprs are humans turned by bio goo that was inthe meteor that got teleported to our unverse

[tall anchor]

Quantum entanglement doesn't mean another dimension, it means another place

[white moth]

it means another universe

[analog frigate]

part of them

[icy swift]

so the hive/nest/colony theory we had before is just gone now?

[white moth]

wdym

[analog frigate]

no

they still are a territorial hive species

ants and bees are the best representative

[icy swift]

yea I know that theory

[analog frigate]

they do not expand but only defend their territory

[icy swift]

im just curious how much do these new developments affect it

[analog frigate]

not much

only expand on it

but we know too little about Red Alpha to say much

[icy swift]

fair enough

[analog frigate]

the most can be said about the sleepers within the complex

and their behaviour

Red Alpha breaks things

at least until we get enough information

[white moth]

my thought is waht caused the scientists to go and disturb these nests is that what if these organisms produce iridium and Dreyfus was trying to use this as sorta a milk farm for iridium

[analog frigate]

they don't

they disturbed them by drilling into the biomass

which was done completely obliviously

they didn't know about the danger

[icy swift]

yea it is mentioned in one of the logs right that they hit some kind of a hard mass thingy

[analog frigate]

the DeepScan

and then progression down

[icy swift]

yep that

[analog frigate]

also a thing still needed to be confirmed is if cretasium is the crystals

[leaden dagger]

sounds about right

[analog frigate]

hello dagga

[leaden dagger]

what upppp

[analog frigate]

generally not much

[faint sonnet]

so the labs and such, were they there before or after the drilling?

[analog frigate]

which drilling

[faint sonnet]

weren't you all talking about the mineshaft?

[analog frigate]

yes

[faint sonnet]

like the shaft we go down?

well doesn't a mineshaft get drilled?

[analog frigate]

but which drilling? the one to the biomass or the main 1.5km shaft

labs were probably established after the DeepScan

[faint sonnet]

the main shaft

[analog frigate]

most likely not

why would they need labs in a normal mine?

[tall anchor]

main shaft would have had to have been drilled first to make the labs

[analog frigate]

yes

[tall anchor]

it was never really a normal mine though

[faint sonnet]

yeah that's what I figured, ok

[analog frigate]

it was an iridium mine

then they discovered the meteorite

[leaden dagger]

^

[tall anchor]

yeah, but the beginning of it was always sus

[faint sonnet]

do we have any idea what exactly the "elevator arm" we use is? and where our units come from?

[tall anchor]

very cagey when breaking ground was happening

[analog frigate]

i'm not sure about stuff that far back so i can't say

all i know is that it was a regular mine until the meteorite was found

[faint sonnet]

so btw, our prisoners aren't clones, right? just people who lost their memories? so us dieing down in the complex isn't "canon"?

[leaden dagger]

correct

[faint sonnet]

alrighty

[analog frigate]

death isn't cannon

we are actual people

but as Schaeffer said

[faint sonnet]

ok i figured

[analog frigate]

our memories are fake

no knowledge of their reality

or if we actually have memories

[tall anchor]

Yeah, rundown 002's log

The external walls at Garganta have been poured and I have been given an estimate of 8 weeks for curing before we can start drilling the primary shaft.

I am sure you heard about the accident we had at pump #14. The flooding was quickly contained, and all workers have signed the necessary waivers and NDAs. I want to assure you the report will indicate the accident happened at the mining operation and not at Garganta. If any official agencies do raise concerns over our methods, they will direct their attention to the chicxulub operation first, and we will have time to adjust as necessary at Garganta before they stick their noses in. I feel I should inform you that the representative from McCallister Aggregates (the concrete suppliers) had a lot of questions about the project. I gave him no information, but I think it may be worth keeping an eye on McCallister’s involvement. They’re a bit invasive. Our contract with them runs for another 2 years, but we should consider finding a more discrete supplier for the internal construction of the facility. There is nothing to worry ourselves about yet, but once full construction begins it may be hard to keep the more sensitive operations under wraps. Both N(yxo)s and Rockford have been tactful so far, and I believe both companies offer adequate molding and forming facilities that would meet our needs. Nyxos in particular has proved to be a reliable supplier and knows not to ask too many questions. I will inform you once drilling starts. Please let me know if you intent to visit the site so I can make the necessary arrangements. There are a lot of people here and while security is tight, I would like it to be tighter should you decide to come and see the work for yourself.

[faint sonnet]

do we know the year we are in?

[tall anchor]

it's just a little bit too cagey and suspicious to think of it as a "normal iridium mine"

[analog frigate]

no

[analog frigate]

it was cagey since corporation and accidents

[faint sonnet]

btw sorry for all the questions, as you can tell i literally just started engaging with the game. i apologize if this isn't the channel for such simple questions

[tall anchor]

at the minimum, we're past 2054.

[analog frigate]

if anyone outside found about the issues they have, their reputation will go down

[analog frigate]

don't worry :) it's the lore channel, any question lore related is welcome

[leaden dagger]

we like new members learning the lore! ask away :)

[tall anchor]

They’re still discussing the internals of the facility far before they broke ground.

[faint sonnet]

i just read that one of our characters is a Dr. who made the virus that created the sleepers? is that correct?

[analog frigate]

no one made the virus as far as it's known

[tall anchor]

dauda is a doctor

but he did unethical stuff

[faint sonnet]

yeah Dauda it was. There is a reddit post where it as claimed he had to do with the Nam-V virus?

[tall anchor]

he might have been trying to figure it out or something like that, but nothings confirmed afaik

[faint sonnet]

ah ok

[white moth]

ight

[analog frigate]

he experimented with it

but didn't make it in any capacity

[faint sonnet]

ah gotcha

[raw island]

So Bishop was referred to in the B1 audio that plays in the chamber. Sounds like he was security for the company. I wonder if the prisoners are being punished because of their involvement in whatever the catastrophe was., like scapegoats. Do we know anything of the world outside the complex, other than that ominous public safety broadcast on the terminals?

[analog frigate]

they aren't punished

just used by the warden

the outside world

[faint sonnet]

there are more "Legion" than the 4 we play, right?

[analog frigate]

yes

but we are the best

[faint sonnet]

haha

[analog frigate]

that's the case though

we canonically survived every expedition and succeeded

[raw island]

Ah okay, so it’s like a semi-voluntary program?

[analog frigate]

yes and no

before the world went to shit it was voluntary

[raw island]

Yeah that would make sense

[analog frigate]

now we are just KSOs used by the warden

[faint sonnet]

KSO?

and wait, the WORLD went to shit?

[analog frigate]

Kovak Special Operative

[faint sonnet]

not just the complex?

ah ok

[analog frigate]

yes

the whole world

NAM-V is deadly

[faint sonnet]

oh fuck, how do we know that?

logs?

[analog frigate]

yes

[faint sonnet]

damn

[analog frigate]

and generally the reality of the situation

[raw island]

Seems like it. There’s an audio file you can play from any terminal, it’s a big ‘shelter in place’ broadcast

Type LOGS to see it available

[faint sonnet]

will do thanks

[analog frigate]

any terminal?

haven't heard of that

the only thing i have encountered is the auto gen

but maybe they changed something 👀

[gilded vine]

not familiar with that terminal either

[analog frigate]

who knows

[lofty cave]

What is matter wave projector?

why it teleports me for a second when I touch it

[analog frigate]

a device using crystals ||found on Red Alpha|| to ||teleport|| people

play b1 and you'll see :)

[lofty cave]

i finished B1

[analog frigate]

ah then

[lofty cave]

i mean

[analog frigate]

it's some crystals used for teleportation

[lofty cave]

it said bring wave projector to the teleportation device, so i was sure that we teleport via machine not via projector

now i see

they work together

[analog frigate]

it uses the projector to teleport

yes

[lofty cave]

and what is warden trying to achieve? Do we even know?

[analog frigate]

sort of

more data

but we don't know any specific goals

[lofty cave]

I ve read somewhere that he is trying to (re)create life maybe? DNA samples and some things we found in previous rundown (i only played R5)

but im not sure

[analog frigate]

possibly

but we can only theorise

[lilac island]

we're getting a genome sequence

if i was to take a guess, maybe that's a genome sequence to be written into the dna of the neonate from R3?

[analog frigate]

of what?

the sequence could be for the Kraken

or sleepers

flyers

anything really

[lilac island]

no point guessing

modified synapsis path
DNA read/write enabled

[analog frigate]

could be to create people as to restore humanity

but it's not for certain

[lilac island]

again, no point in guessing

[analog frigate]

yes

[lofty cave]

correct me if Im wrong
Warden lock down complex after sleepers breakout, still some people from the supervisors left inside and started Legion program (also, whats the original goal of that program?), but they tried to get access somewhere deep in the complex in R5 and everything went to shit in the world? Did anyone get to enter "RESIST" in the deeper terminal like Shaeffer said?

[analog frigate]

warden didn't do anything. the BIOCOM did before is got taken down

[lofty cave]

isnt BIOCOM and Warden the same thing?

[analog frigate]

yes, resist is used in C3 (i think), rundown 5

[analog frigate]

yes

the BIOCOM is the warden

the warden took over

[lofty cave]

so whats the difference then?

[analog frigate]

the warden is an outer force

uploaded to the BIOCOM, taking it over

[lofty cave]

oh i see

so we still dont know who that is

[analog frigate]

the warden is the warden

it is it's own thing

[lilac island]

BIOCOM is the warden, the warden didn't shut down anything, as it has no access to the facility on a larger scale. the warden is not an outside force at all, it IS BIOCOM. just straight up, it's BIOCOM. the legion program existed before the complex being in its current state.

[analog frigate]

the question is who made it

[lofty cave]

and what is the original goal of program legion?

they brainwashed people for what?

[analog frigate]

it is an outside force. on the santonian terminal, the BIOCOM restart log shows it

the BIOCOM got taken over

the legion program was from before yes

let me post the warden taking over the BIOCOM log

one moment

[lilac island]

post that log

legion program is a program run by kovac defense services which brainwashes people into being essentially mindless operatives to work for kovac without question.

[lofty cave]

oh so just that, how i didnt think of that lol

[lofty cave]

all 4 of us were working for santonian or just bishop or is it uknown? I know shaeffer also did

[analog frigate]

not including the unknown brainfuck code

[analog frigate]

we are a part of the legion program

at least we were

but we are just KSOs now

used by the warden

[lilac island]

legion program are all KSOs

[analog frigate]

yes

[lofty cave]

i get the global storyline its just i feel that something is off

some detail

but i cant understand which one

[analog frigate]

what do you doubt about it

asking questions is good

[lofty cave]

yeah thas the problem, i dont know

i feel something is off

but cant understand what is it

[lilac island]

BIOCOM is the system by which operatives are given objectives, it's autonomous and is a DI, a decision intelligence. biocom must have been hacked for external code execution, but still works on an automated system

[fathom crypt]

Are we sure that the characters really are whole people and not just personalities uploaded into prisoner bodies? Like operating systems?

[lofty cave]

yeah thats log about what is biocom

[analog frigate]

the basis is the BIOCOM but decisions are made by warden logic

[analog frigate]

they have backstories

and are people

but the HSUs cause them to lose memories

so now they are just KSOs doing what the warden wants

[lofty cave]

so sleepers are miners after being exposed to whatever they found right?

[analog frigate]

seems so

[lofty cave]

and HSU s inside the complex? Do they work like lifepods and some personnel put themselves into stasis awaiting to be saved?

[icy swift]

so its not hte NAM-V virus which makes them sleepers?

[analog frigate]

no

something else

[lilac island]

doubtful, why would they decide to overwrite all of the existing code and decision making processes instead of just giving it an objective and hijacking the decision making code to achieve it

[lofty cave]

oh really? I was sure the NAM-V is effect of whatever they have found

[faint sonnet]

wait, the virus doesn't make sleepers?

[analog frigate]

that's exactly what i said

AI basis of the BIOCOM, with logic and actions done with the new code

[lilac island]

no, you said it used warden logic, i.e, not biocom logic, i.e biocom isn't used at all for any of it other than it's station

[analog frigate]

ah sorry them, wording issue

[analog frigate]

no, it's just a deadly virus that kills

they were exposed to something else

[icy swift]

sad
would've loved to have it somewhere in the backstory for sleepers

[analog frigate]

the sleepers have a lot of lore behind them

it's just that NAM-V doesn't appear to be it

[white moth]

wait

NAM V Isnt the sleepers?

fuck me then

[lofty cave]

yeah if u read all logs from the wiki

it says it like that so miners got NAM-V

and then outbreak happened

like 2 separate things

[analog frigate]

the hospital log from the santonian terminal shows that NAM-V doesn't cause sleepers

[white moth]

ok

good to know

ty

[analog frigate]

although they do say that long term effects are unknown

so i can't say for sure

[lofty cave]

Shaeffer is alive right? Or is it pre recorded messages?

[analog frigate]

they are pre-recorded

but we don't know if Schaeffer is still alive or not

[tall anchor]

^ depends on what year it is

[analog frigate]

yes and no

[lofty cave]

maybe he got out ^^

[analog frigate]

he could die from sleepers earlier

[tall anchor]

well, he's not in hydrostasis

[analog frigate]

yes

[tall anchor]

so we could sleep through his lifetime

(which I don't belive is happening, but still is a point to be made)

[analog frigate]

getting out probably means death, but we don't know enough about NAM-V to say if getting out means death

[analog frigate]

possibly but the current events are probably not happening more than 30 years after the whole thing

[tall anchor]

that's my thought as well

we're probably in the 2070/80's or something like that

[snow yarrow]

wait I thought DI was digital intelligent

[analog frigate]

even if it's not long after 2054 he still could be dead due to sleepers

or infection

a lot of things really

[tall anchor]

I haven't seen any food in gtfo yet kekw

[analog frigate]

we haven't even see any sign of food or drinkable water anywhere

[lilac island]

decision intelligence

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_intelligence

[tall anchor]

I really want to see the living quarters

[snow yarrow]

lol ok

[analog frigate]

you have

most likely but didn't recognise them

[tall anchor]

wdym?

[analog frigate]

since they are about as gone as it gets

people would really try to leave after the whole thing

include the chaos of sleepers coming in

[tall anchor]

where are the living quarters

[analog frigate]

no idea

[tall anchor]

where are you describing

[snow yarrow]

cuz I wikied DI it told that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_intelligence

[tall anchor]

oh, you're just speculating

[analog frigate]

no

[tall anchor]

we've seen their storage, mining and labratory sectors, as well as some overrun areas with grow beds

[snow yarrow]

hum kinda simillar lol

[analog frigate]

we do see them at some point

but they aren't living quarters anymore

just destroyed

[lilac island]

reading that, that's about human intelligence as adapted around the use of technology

[lofty cave]

Is that personnel of the complex inside the HSUs? If so why there are children inside some of them?

[snow yarrow]

got that

[analog frigate]

it's mentioned in a couple logs that people want to have their living quarters on the surface, since staying down for so long is very bad

you don't see the sun for 6 months

[analog frigate]

some

mostly KSOs

[lilac island]

whereas decision intelligence is an AI that uses learning algorithms to undersrand managerial tasks and make decisions based on the circumstances it's presented with to other people

[lofty cave]

Kovac Operatives?

KSOs

[analog frigate]

Kovak Special Operatives

[lilac island]

Kovac Security Officers

[analog frigate]

really?

[gilded vine]

yes

[analog frigate]

bruh i've known it wrong the whole time

[lilac island]

pretty sure it mentions officers in the evacuation log

[lofty cave]

children is why i asked but may be some of the high officers took children with them? Is that possible in such a secure place

[gilded vine]

lol

[lilac island]

not likely, the neonate HSUs have the ability to read and write DNA onto and off of the neonate's genome

[analog frigate]

Dreyfus wouldn't allow that

[lofty cave]

So why is there children inside?

[analog frigate]

i'm not sure

[lilac island]

the neonate HSUs have the ability to read and write DNA onto and off of the neonate's genome, so it's presumable that they're used for code replication through the child growing, but to what end, we don't know

[analog frigate]

possibly

[dim scroll]

Wouldn't it be to make better agents ?

[lilac island]

neonate HSUs being presented to an nFrame, the same thing used to encode data onto a data sphere, suggests that they might even use children as a means of just generating DNA using a specified genome sequence to use as a data storage medium, and the children might be used just to grow out the DNA strands used to store the data

[raw island]

Sorry I might be confusing it with the auto gen. I think I am. What I’m thinking of is an audio file I found in A1. Sorry for the confusion

[analog frigate]

yeah

there isn't such a file

only the auto gen

[snow yarrow]

there, what is "human C0s"?

[tall anchor]

commanding officers

[snow yarrow]

oh

ty

[lilac lance]

I like running around the different maps and such collecting different colored shapes i find on the ground.
What do you think they taste like?

[shadow igloo]

Any running theories on the new enemies?

[analog frigate]

the boosters probably don't taste good

[analog frigate]

which exactly

[shadow igloo]

The flying ones. I dont think ive ever seen the warden use the word retreat except for them on b1

Kinda stood out to me

[analog frigate]

using retreat makes sense

[shadow igloo]

Oh it does, its just new considering were considered expendable

[analog frigate]

we are expendable, but the best ones

so the warden needs us

canonically we never die and finish every expedition

for theories what exactly do you need?

[faint sonnet]

i wonder how we actually extract

cause it just cuts to menu

[shadow igloo]

What they are mostly and how they fit in with the others

[analog frigate]

why they fly, why they exist, how do they fire ect.

[analog frigate]

they are non mutated

natural of the species

[shadow igloo]

I imagine the drop cage comes back down for us

[analog frigate]

evolved to the environment of Red Alpha

[shadow igloo]

Theres more than one entry shaft

[analog frigate]

probably not

there is only the main punched through one

we haven't seen any other

since it was the main shaft the dug out it makes sense how it connects to everywhere

[shadow igloo]

Isnt there a "entry point" listing when you start the game?

Entry point E for example

[analog frigate]

not sure so i can't say

someone else can confirm or deny

[shadow igloo]

Considering the cover was a mine sub/aux shafts make sense

[dim scroll]

you mean the gigantic E on the map ?

below the spawn ?

[shadow igloo]

No. When launching the game one of the fluff values is an entry point listing

I'll see if i can get a screenshot

[analog frigate]

please do

[faint sonnet]

so the rundowns changing where we go is us going to different floors and directions of the main shaft?

[shadow igloo]

Presumably

[analog frigate]

we go to different parts of the facility

also

the entry point probably means direction deriving from the main shaft

so it's still the main shaft, just another direction

would make sense in a mining prespective

[shadow igloo]

I dont know. Its weird. The drop cage seems to be a straight up down

[analog frigate]

yeah but sometimes the lighting glitches and you can see the walls and determine that you're going at about 300kmh down

for the time you are going much deeper than you imagine

[faint sonnet]

yeah but the drop cage can turn

[analog frigate]

and the g forces of the short stopping would kill you

so it's not far off to imagine that it turns

[shadow igloo]

"Section 5 entry point E1" i'll have the screen up soon

[analog frigate]

alright

post other ones though

from different levels as to get an idea of how it works

[shadow igloo]

I'll see if it changes. I wonder if it was different in the other run downs and just unnoticed

[analog frigate]

i don't remember anything about it from r5 or r4

it could be something overlooked

[burnt light]

You mean like this?

[shadow igloo]

No game launch, before you get to any menus

[analog frigate]

while dropping down i think

[analog frigate]

oooh no

that's different

it's the location of your HSU

also it doesn't change over time

it's always been E1 if i remember correctly

[shadow igloo]

yes, the entry point would refer to the shaft were above

other bore holes we sometimes extract from would presumably be the other entry points

[analog frigate]

let me check through some illegal methods if it was the same on R5

[shadow igloo]

i just struggle to imagine the mechanism that would allow it to move horizontally without a full stop and not kill us at the same time

[analog frigate]

my illegal ways have failed

[analog frigate]

smooth turning is possible

for example

why do you feel almost no turning in the metro?

[shadow igloo]

i assumed once retrieved theres a surface mechanism that can transport our HSU's

[analog frigate]

if the turn is over a long enough distance then you can't really feel it

it can be a rail system on the sides of the cavern

[shadow igloo]

i mean at that those speeds? the deepest level of this rundown seems to only be a kilometer

[analog frigate]

yes, as i said

you go down fast and for too long to go only 1km

they probably didn't design the level loading to work with lore

wouldn't make sense to do anyway

[snow yarrow]

anybody have the log in c2?

the voice log

[analog frigate]

which one

rayalot probably recorded it

[snow yarrow]

the "there's something else in here" stuff

[analog frigate]

ah well i don't know

anyway i have to go. bye

[white moth]

yo