gtfo-lore

[molten tundra]

i mean, almost everything we're discussing here is just theory

some discuss clone theory as deconfirmed though

as in, explicitely shown to be inaccurate

[hasty pier]

it's neither deconfirmed or confirmed anywhere

[molten tundra]

🤷‍♂️

[hasty pier]

just an explanation that some people believe in and others don't

[molten tundra]

personally

i'm leaning towards it until i'm given a better explanation

[hasty pier]

same here

[rich blaze]

Personaly, I don't run by this theory so I don't base them on it to be fair
Especially with the memory tampering things that have been released with R5

[molten tundra]

There needs to be an explanation as to why the same prisoners have apparantly interacted with every rundown so far and still are alive, and have also not exploded from nam-v contamination

[gilded vine]

Once again, we could be getting disinfected

[molten tundra]

while still having "low expected survival rate"

even though our survival rate is... 100%

like, warden either sucks at math

or something is up

[hasty pier]

ye

i doubt we're just supersoldiers

[molten tundra]

i mean hilariously, you get closer to super soldier with every death

[rich blaze]

Last one I don't quite know

[molten tundra]

but still

[rich blaze]

but for the first, I always handwaved it as defeat is non canon, and our team has been sent after others that failed

but YMMV on that one

[molten tundra]

see, i can "suspend disbelief" heavily to ignore that

but the "low expected survival rate" and "you always succeed and the warden never sends you first even after 5 consecutive rundowns of seeing you complete every mission"

is just... bizzare

[rich blaze]

You don't send an elite team scouting

[molten tundra]

yeah

but then why would the expected survival rate for the non scout ace team that has never failed you

for their briefing

say "low expected survival rate"

they're not doing the scout mission

they're the ones you expect to win

also, we never get any scouted info

🤷‍♂️

[rich blaze]

Anyway, consdering how deep the biology rabbit hole goes in this game (I had to search through patents for christ sake)
it's kinda weird we never got anything on cloning

Although, there's a passage that might interest y'all

as it actually might point towards it

[molten tundra]

could be the devs are hoping to keep it hidden for some

big reveal

tweeeest for those who aren't really doing too much theory crafting

they've played their hand close on everything else so far

so it'd track

[rich blaze]

   sent to recycling? We track both organ and tissue stocks here so
   we can trace the history should we need it.```

[molten tundra]

i've read that line before, but the term recycling is interesting

[hasty pier]

so they collect pieces of people

[molten tundra]

organ harvesting ofc

but the question is

are they building more people or just stocking up organs for medical procedures

🤷‍♂️

[rich blaze]

Personally I think it might just be financing through organ black market

[molten tundra]

clone theory would prefer the former

the latter has all sorts of explanations tho

[rich blaze]

but Clones theory is a good one too

[hasty pier]

should we need it
seems to imply that they plan to use the body parts internally

either medically or for building people

[rich blaze]

Idk if you're on the archive server, but @pulsar crater had a good theory on memory usage and control

it used pieces I gatherd from R4 objectives and Bishop's log in R5A3

And it'd seem weird for cloning to actually get the repressed memories

[molten tundra]

depends

if they want the clones to actually have the memories of the people they're cloning (say, to retain combat experience), doing some sort of a reverse constructive brain scan, it makes perfect sense. It'd also explain how they have all sorts of knowledge and experience about the creatures they're fighting.

rather than going in blind every time

[hasty pier]

yeah they seem to only remember the expeditions they go through and none of their past

which would be beneficial if you just want emotionless soldiers

[molten tundra]

although i think its implied perhaps that dauda does remember his past and simply chooses not to speak on it

since he wasn't put through the program and just hops in a pod to escape the sleepers during the incident

so im not sure how he'd tie into this

[hasty pier]

dauda is a weird case

[molten tundra]

i mean him not speaking on it makes sense

because he sees himself as responsible

[rich blaze]

Bishop basically remembers through the power of hate

[hasty pier]

maybe the warden sees that dauda's memories are actually beneficial for him as a prisoner?

since dauda would have a better understanding of the virus/sleepers

[molten tundra]

we don't even know if the warden has access to teh memory altering facilities that were used to set up bishop, hacket & co the way they are, or just the HSU and deployment stuff

so its possible dauda just had a higher than average mission success rate when deployed and warden took notice

[hasty pier]

true

[molten tundra]

dauda's implied high level knowledge of what was going on though would probably only be helpful for him when interacting withthem

that's a head start on all the people who don't

[devout geyser]

How many logs have been found from the extension?

[pulsar crater]

not sure

im just waiting for your big lore conglomerate to be posted

[graceful lotus]

quite a bit

I'm guessing near 20

c3 is a gem in of itself for logs

[fiery hollow]

Q: What did the charicters do to be in prison?

well to be prisoners

[wild merlin]

Woods (I believe, I may have the wrong person) had a violent episode and killed people with a shotgun on a military base

The others idk

[fresh juniper]

Guess I'm using the shotgun when I play as him from now on

[wild merlin]

Nice

[fiery hollow]

ok I got woods anyone else know the other

(others)

[fresh juniper]

For Hackett it must be his thighs I guess because did you look at them lmaoo

[burnt light]

I might be wrong but I counted 23, including the 6 audios and the 5 logs found previously on the corrupted folder of the website

[fresh juniper]

Man needs a permit for those

[wild merlin]

I think if you look on the official wiki and look up the characters it is in there somewhere

[silver vine]

You can know why they're in the complex with audio logs in A2

Woods killed 20 militaries in the name of god
Dauda worked for the complex before
Bishop tried to blackmail the CEO of Dreyfus
Hackett killed innocent people and wanted to join the program to have his memory erased

[fiery hollow]

thank you for the lore

[silver vine]

So, it's not really a prison where people are punished for their crimes.
It's a complex, deep underground where you can't leave and they're kept "prisoners" to do the dirty work of the Warden in the complex

[fiery hollow]

So in a way they are on death row because it is so dangerous

[silver vine]

A non official death row piloted by a Private Company if you want yeah

[fiery hollow]

so what is the benifet of doing this?

[silver vine]

We don't know the ultimate goal of why we're doing the Warden's work in the complex

[fiery hollow]

I guess a clear criminal record?

in exchange

[silver vine]

No, we're probably never leaving

[finite vine]

well death row inmates are still used as legion operatives, like woods

[silver vine]

When we're not dropping in the complex, we're kept in HSU (sleeping module), mostly

When you launch the lobby and have the dropping cinematic, you're just waking up from your HSU unit

[scenic wagon]

is there a difference between Legion and Insight?

are they used interchangable or are they 2 different things? ICR

[finite vine]

Im sure they are 2 different things

[royal gull]

Project Insight is a company in charge of laboratory experiences and Deep Reach progression. Legion is a secret program that enrols people willingly (or not) to do the Warden chores after their memory was wiped.

Not 100% accurate though

[graceful lotus]

well we don't know about that last part

were not sure of the exact connection between the legion and warden just yet

I doubt it's that direct though

[golden dune]

Did I read somewhere that theres a seperate server that has archieved lore? Instead of ongoing discussion? Thanks!

[graceful lotus]

I don't think so, not to my knowledge at least

you can watch some youtube channels that sum up the past rundown lores though

or read the wiki

[royal gull]

https://santonianindustries.com/

There's a remote terminal with compiled logs from previous rundowns

[devout geyser]

check #hc-other

the complex archives

[sinful robin]

I got 27 logs from the extension in my google drive. Don't know if I'm missing any but don't think so. Only one I'm confused about and haven't found is the "FTR-044-V.LOG" that's in the corrupted folder on the website but it might not be in game. All the other corrupted ones are though

[devout geyser]

did you share that here?

[sinful robin]

yup

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zzu-UmFOnlzDzdnlXTIxv8oxP339158l?usp=sharing

should also be a bit higher up in this chanel

[devout geyser]

POG those are all the ones i've found as well

which means i can post my database now

[sinful robin]

Noice

[hidden flint]

GUYSSS

GUYS

[sinful robin]

Hmm?

[hidden flint]

i've accessed the santonian's secret terminal

idk if its new or not

i just feel like a kid in a candy store rn

[red steppe]

lol

[sinful robin]

Awesome how you have stumbled upon it

[hidden flint]

here i'll stream it in gen 1

[sinful robin]

Play around with it a little and see what you can find

[hidden flint]

theres sooooo much here tho

and its not in the game

[sinful robin]

It has been discovered already though but there's lots of fun stuff to read on there

[hidden flint]

oh

[sinful robin]

The corrupted folder is worth keeping an eye on as time goes on

[hidden flint]

it was the first thing i opened

[sinful robin]

They occasionally add some stuff there

[hidden flint]

i just went thru crp-991 a and b

[graceful lotus]

it basically stores all the past and current logs

[hidden flint]

ooooooooo

i love it soooo much

[sinful robin]

And sometimes teases future logs

[hidden flint]

D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.exec_branch/APirosA134.flagged
Mr. Girauld

what is this?

[devout geyser]

what part of it

[hidden flint]

the second and third line

[devout geyser]

not completely sure, but it's just like the internal address of the email

[hidden flint]

so we don't know who Mr.Girauld is?

[devout geyser]

he's sebastien girauld

operative science director at KDS

[hidden flint]

and we are doing a kds level in e1

[devout geyser]

KDS Deep

[hidden flint]

what does it mean?

[devout geyser]

a deep storage of KSOs for Legion

(kovak security operatives)

[timid lance]

kovak deep storage

[devout geyser]

no

kovak defense services

[timid lance]

eh it was a guess

[hidden flint]

legion?

[devout geyser]

It's finally time to release my GTFO Lore Database! I've included every log and character from the game so far, and added labels so you can follow common themes of GTFO. I intend to keep adding information as we learn more... maybe I'll add a glossary next! Anyways, enjoy!

[slim fractal]

https://www.notion.so/GTFO-Lore-Database-94aac69799e14948b3f9f418761c6cd0

[devout geyser]

sorry had to do a little advertising

anyways

[hidden flint]

as someone else links a database in

[hidden flint]

unless

your the same person

[devout geyser]

lmao i am

[slim fractal]

lmao i am

[spice elk]

lmao I am

[devout geyser]

p.s. anyone can make comments on the pages

[hidden flint]

what kind of person has 3 accounts?

[graceful lotus]

a gamer

D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.kds_ops/HLordeB273.flagged
Harriet,
That’s a BIOCOM access key. BIOCOM is a self-governing DI entity. I don’t run it. No one “runs” it. If it needs more power, it tries to get it. Other than that I have no idea why it made this request. If you have any more questions, run them by a flagged supervisor first. I’m busy keeping you alive.
Andre
———————–
D-Lock Block Cipher
alias:int_server.1024_ciph.tier5.kds_ops/APirosA134.flagged
Mr. Piros,
I have been alerted to multiple attempts to access Garganta’s power control system. This system is, as far as I know, entirely off-limits to KDS and yet, as you can see below – you are attempting to reroute power to unit B-7 (that’s KDS Deep) for some reason. Had the system approved the request, the grid would have overloaded and almost every subsystem in the entire facility would have shut down.
Care to explain?
PCS alert: unauthorized access logged
Date: 04/05/2054
AccessID#: 29$525GVTHR2%456FS
WRDN: override
Request received:
generator_A-01, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-03, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-05, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-07, redirect(HSU vault)
Request denied. Limits exceeded. PID override false.
Request received:
generator_A-01, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-03, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-05, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-07, redirect(HSU vault
Request denied. Limits exceeded. PID override false.
Request received:
generator_A-01, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-03, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-05, redirect(HSU vault)
generator_A-07, redirect(HSU vault
Request denied. Limits exceeded. PID override false.
Port closed.
Please contact a CPDS administrator.

can someone explain this

whoops

so what is KDS deep?

is it a location?

[devout geyser]

end of e1

a vault of HSUs containing KSOs

for Legion

[dense saffron]

It's pretty much all but explicity stated BIOCOM is the warden right

Like we can all agree BIOCOM is most likely the warden

In the access log for the generators it literally says "WRDN: override"

[graceful lotus]

ah

does that mean we're getting new prisoners next rundown?

seems likely

[devout geyser]

how did i not see that before

bruh

[dense saffron]

Lol I saw it just before I posted that, hence why I posted it

[devout geyser]

wait that would make so much sense

character customization

new prisoners

influx protocol

making all these KSOs available

[burnt light]

Prisoners need to find an acronym dictionary
So BIOCOM is something that wants stuff so it finds the way to get that stuff regardless of anything else. So everyone could be dead and the thing still trying to reroute power or sending people down to get crates. I don't think everyone is dead, or retired, or the complex is empty, tho. Wouldn't make sense to "send prisoners to retrieve and open baby hsu/hisec cargo" if no one is gonna use it. This independent entity still needs someone giving it some specific tasks for others to do, even if it's just Kovak people wanting more plants or cryo crates for research.
Also, WRDN doesn't mean Warden, right? Like, doesn't directly mean that. It's just a convenient acronym that can be seen as a word easier to pronounce and goes well with the theme of people feeling like prisoners and having someone/something giving orders and making sure everything works, and someone at Garganta or KDS thought "that sounds cool" and went with it. Right?
It took me so long to get my thoughts in order and write this, I feel stupid.

[lilac island]

if it is a completely independent entity, then no, it doesn't need input or oversight from anyone else. again, even before what happened, people working there are directly saying nobody has control over it and are wondering why BIOCOM is doing what it's doing. as for WRDN, it most likely is just "Warden", there's a lot of computerized programs or tasks you can put into a computer's command terminal that uses "squished" abbreviation rather than just using 1 letter 1 word abbreviation. I think that someone gave it that name who was overseeing the production or use of BIOCOM due to it's control over the HSUs and the prisoners.

personally i'd find it more dumb to have an abbreviated name where 1 word is 1 letter where they clearly thought of the abbreviation before they came up with what it actually stood for

actually whats more interesting to me is i think that log's mentioning of the PID override being false and mentioning exceeding limits directly reflect the beta rundown's expeditions, as their objectives were to retrieve PIDs and to overload the power grid

with that being successful in achieving BIOCOM's goals, the rundown protocol was thought up

or "thought" up rather

or if the beta rundown isnt canon, it still matches up with rundown protocol 1

[burnt light]

The beta was made part of the rundown 1, yes

[rich blaze]

For me

I think the warden is actually OVERRIDING the BIOCOM call

which would mean Harriet Lorde would be one of the wardens

wait nevermind

It's not actually the case

I can't read

[burnt light]

The thing is, that entity needs a goal, even if it's just keeping everything running. If it doesn't have one, I don't think it'd keep giving tasks. Why would it? And the objectives don't seem random but leading towards something. Like, get those IDs so you can access lower levels, get this item so you don't die in the next expedition, start up/shut down a reactor so power goes wherever it wants, and similar stuff. Since it also controls HSUs, I can also get the hormone related objectives. But what's with the get plant samples, get cargos and such? Why would it need it if no one is gonna use them, and how does it know if that's the case?
That's my point, why a (probably) non-physical entity needs those things if no one is telling it they need them

[dense saffron]

The log explicitly states

That’s a BIOCOM access key. 
BIOCOM is a self-governing DI entity. 
I don’t run it. 
No one “runs” it. 
If it needs more power, it tries to get it. 
Other than that I have no idea why it made this request.```  So personally I think it's safe to say BIOCOM / The Warden sets it's own goals and then attempts to complete tasks that would further those goals

what those goals are is anyone's guess, it seems even when the complex was operational the people in it didn't know what it was doing

[burnt light]

I mean... ye, I guess no one knows, and we'll have to wait and see.
I'll go back to lurking and reading what clever people write.

[scenic wagon]

“That’s a BIOCOM access key.
BIOCOM is a self-governing DI entity. “
DI eh? Digital Intelligence?

What’s the difference between an AI, and a DI…

[hasty pier]

assuming DI is actually digital intelligence, that would imply that the warden is likely someone's mind uploaded, not an artificial intelligence that was created to be the warden

though it would be a bit of a stretch to assume that's what DI stands for with what we know imo

[scenic wagon]

That’s what it was. DI is someone’s mind in sci-Fi stories

[hasty pier]

oh, is it a common term?

my bad lol

[scenic wagon]

No I’ve seen it in a few other places.

Not that common. I just happen to know what it means from other sources

At least in this context. Could mean something else in some other context

[scenic wagon]

Read: Self inserts ( a type of fan fiction 😊 )

[lilac island]

it definitely has a goal, but those goals aren't set by people

as for DI, i swear i've heard about it before, when talking about the different types of artificial intelligence, but I can't remember what it stood for

[scenic wagon]

Digital Is my guess. IDK for sure tho

[dim scroll]

We still don't know what cargos are used for, do we ?

[devout geyser]

we know what the r2a1 cargo was

[scenic wagon]

Dababy ™️ ?

Wait no. Wrong cargo. Icr the r2a1 cargo

[cunning light]

pMother samples ?

[scenic wagon]

that was r3 I believe... or was it. bah, ICR

[solar nova]

R2

[keen bobcat]

Not sure if anyone posted this but its on A3

[scenic wagon]

I havent seen any of the wiki guys post it

[devout geyser]

it's in my database

[scenic wagon]

the one you cant post yet?

[devout geyser]

i already did

[scenic wagon]

oh, wait then what was the one about not being able to post it for 4 days

[devout geyser]

all the logs have been posted already so i'm free to post whatever i want

[scenic wagon]

fair enough

[graceful lotus]

whos xavier lightfoot?

[rocky shuttle]

who

[scenic wagon]

whoot whoot whoot

[royal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-there-hi-whats-up-head-roll-lets-dance-gif-4783428

[burnt light]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/c/c7/R4C2_Log_2.png

And I think that's all we know about him

[royal gull]

Considering infos in that log and the last audios about our characters in R5A3. Above list is used on Bishop to wake him up faster if I recall in LEGION Program.

[rich blaze]

why would he be a prisoner? He's litteraly the one getting the delivery

[royal gull]

My bad changed it to fit in the lore. Misread the line

[pulsar crater]

they use n-33S to make him more susceptible

flushing the pod and such woke him

[rich blaze]

It reminds me

[rich blaze]

About Gambogic Acide : it's used for the Neural system and "prevents neuronal cell death", seems familiar? :^)

[pulsar crater]

yes

seems familiar LOL

reminds me of GLPS usage as well

@rich blaze could the two be used together?

[rich blaze]

Might, I'm not a neuroscientist by any means

[pulsar crater]

time to contact one 😳

[rich blaze]

They could be used depending on what you need

Considering how little we do know, bleh

Also, N-33S is also related to the neural system after all

[scenic wagon]

does Scaeffers log in C-2 mean anything? go down to 1100 meters, and enter the code Resist

wait...

hold on

wasent there a terminal in C-3 that needed a password

[silver vine]

yes 🙂

[scenic wagon]

well that was simple 😄

[rocky shuttle]

The funny thing was i kept talking about that before the extension came out and when i saw c3 was below 1100 meters, i kept reminding myself to try resist in every terminal. And then i forgot

So i had to go back

And do it again

[graceful lotus]

the only terminal you can type resist in is password protected

apologize to the other 20 terminals you wasted memory on

[rocky shuttle]

no

because when I went back, i knew where the terminal was

so i didnt try

[scenic wagon]

so are what level the personnel are stationied on corresponding to their Security clearance? I.E Schaeffer is C067, and he supposedly has T2 clearence (I believe) while Davies has t3 I believe. or maybe I could be reading it wrong

[devout geyser]

schaeffer is tier 4

and davies is 5

[dense saffron]

schaeffer was tier 2, then got bumped to tier 4

[scenic wagon]

Also. Scaeffers message in c-3 gives me some ideas… he be trying to VIVA LA RESISTANCE Santonian/Dreyfus?

[pulsar crater]

tryna viva la resistance KDS & the warden

let me find a transcript of the log

[scenic wagon]

Oh I remember it “ they try to keep us seperated so we can’t think”

Just listened to it like an hour ago

[pulsar crater]

well KDS and the warden are who send us down, theyre only working for SMC to provide security/piece of mind that the sleepers and their objectives are being met

as far as I know

could be wrong

@scenic wagon on the topic of who are we uploading data to it could potentially be the warden itself or even KDS/SMC since we technically work for the two of them

[wispy saddle]

Is this stuff you actually seen and put together in game or is this all just collected from this server from people who had the skill to make it into the missions and gather the data from the terminals?

[pulsar crater]

This is all collected/theorized off lore entries through the rundown

[wispy saddle]

Like is this second or firsthand

Ahh theorized so some secondhand hopefully it’s accurate

[pulsar crater]

I theorize and base it off log entries throughout the rundown and put a ton of thought into it before I talk about it

[wispy saddle]

Nice

Are there any good logs or anything on E1? The only missions i need to beat now are D2 and E1 so haven’t log searched much there only played both a handful of times

[pulsar crater]

E1 has a log that was moved down if I recall, iirc if you search E1 here you might find a ton of the logs

on the lore database we dont really keep track of what level they come from

[wispy saddle]

Ohh you’re just working on a database not off actually playing the missions?

[pulsar crater]

I dont work on the database, ive seen many of these logs in game though I just dont go out of my way to look for them when we have a catalog with order/all the audio logs.

[scenic wagon]

The santonian website has a list of all the previous rundown logs. One sec

[pulsar crater]

we also have a conglomerate

in the pins

the link from nyuna has chase's lore database

[scenic wagon]

https://santonianindustries.com click on the logo

Or just use chases database yea

Its not a real website tho. More of an ARG

[solar nova]

The only HSUs not used for legion would arguably be staff who entered them to survive (like Dauda).

Everything indicates that HSUs are exclusively used for legion. KDS just runs legion, KDS staff isn't housed in KDS deep.

@scenic wagon

[scenic wagon]

Yea I’m here. But why would there not be at least SOME KDS personnel there just so they could. I dunno, have them report back on the sleeper’s current activity

[solar nova]

Because they would suffer permanent memory loss.

[devout geyser]

HSUs in general, or just the ones in the complex?

[scenic wagon]

KDS is contracted to Santonian. And by extension Davies

[solar nova]

Also, presumably KDS staff would join legion on trips down.

[scenic wagon]

Read the past bit in spoiler chat to catch up if you want

[solar nova]

It makes no sense for them to be housed in HSUs as a part of normal protocol, and those who used HSUs to survive almost certainly don't remember they worked for KDS (probably true of Dauda and absolutely true of Schaeffer).

[solar nova]

The ones in the complex specifically.

[devout geyser]

i think they could have been used for other purposes

but KDS deep is likely just Legion

actually it definitely is

but the other HSUs around the complex don't have to just be legion

[scenic wagon]

That would work as a explanation. Til you remember some of SSIC administration are in HSU’s. r1a1 for example

[solar nova]

I find it unlikely that staff would be housed such that their memory is at risk personally, and every log mentioning HSUs thus far suggests they are specifically tied to Legion.

[solar nova]

Right, but we know some staff used HSUs to survive as a last resort.

It's also pretty old lore, prior to them hiring a writer.

[scenic wagon]

I’m aware. Dauda. Bishop… technically…

Eh. Maybe not Bishop. But Dauda. Yea. And how did Dauda even get sent down to begin with?

He was in an entire different area AFAIK

[solar nova]

Presumably the Warden got access to his HSU at some point. We don't know where Dauda entered one or how the Warden acquires its current stock of prisoners.

[scenic wagon]

So let’s see. Speaking of the Warden. Is there any relation between it and the BIOCOM logs? Or are they 2 separate entities and I’m making a head- canon out of it?

[solar nova]

Besides the mention of WRDN, very inconclusive, but I'll call Chekhov's gun and say it's probably the Warden.

The log is also reminiscent of the text shown on-terminal when verifying a reactor shutdown.

Also interesting that the WRDN and the Warden both wanted access to KDS Deep.

[scenic wagon]

Watch I call a shoot the shaggy dog trope and all this speculation is useless cuz the original 4 prisoners die in between r5 and six

Eh. They’ll be FINE…

[devout geyser]

i mean he was part of Project Insight. since PI was the main thing investigating the deep core and sleepers and stuff, it makes sense that he was down there

[scenic wagon]

That’s what I said before I saw Bills corpse in left 4 dead

[solar nova]

The timeline is really interesting, it seems to paint the picture that they had been holding out against sleepers pushing up through the complex for a very long time.

The lockdown report is roughly half a year prior to the final log we have where KDS is still active.

[manic shuttle]

So the whole complex was completly shut off for an entire year before they send us?

[solar nova]

Only issue is we don't know the current year.

[scenic wagon]

This is the most active I’ve seen the lore tab in awhile. Usually it takes 2-3 hours before someone replies 😄

[solar nova]

Clearly it's after April 5th, 2054, though?

[manic shuttle]

Its usually active at the beggining of the rundown and thats it

[solar nova]

This is also the most robust the lore has ever been.

[scenic wagon]

Well it’s probably sometime after 2053 the generator explosion is most likely what caused the datacentre to get fucked up

[manic shuttle]

I member when r3 was the "lore" rundown

lel

[solar nova]

Possibly, but might not be explosion damage.

I remember when R2 had loads of logs that amounted to a single email.

[manic shuttle]

r2b2 email?

[solar nova]

R2A1, R2B2(thought it was 4?), R2C2, R2D1, R2E1.

5 logs

1 email

Looks more like the rundown holes, as explosions shouldn't tear through solid rock over just tearing through doors or the open space of the complex.

[scenic wagon]

Hahaha I remember reading all the screens in the datacentre that eventually got compiled into one big incident report… should still be around here somewhere actually

Ah. Found it! The pin in this channel from 12/20

[manic shuttle]

I still wonder whats going up outside, do the sleepers go outside since theres that many holes in the complex?

not like it matters since we are always 1000 meter below the ground

[scenic wagon]

The fact that the order to not weld the reactor door is posted twice caused me to laugh knowing that SOMEONE had to have done it for it to be repeated twice

[scenic wagon]

buzzer noise nope. R5 A1 takes place at -545 meters

The only level below 1000 I believe is C-3

We will probably get to sub 2000 sometime though considering the personnel were given warnings to stop there

If they ignored them or not. Who knows

[graceful lotus]

there are quite a few levels below 1000

c3 is the only one below 1100

[scenic wagon]

Ah that’s what it was. 🙂

[graceful lotus]

R4D2, R4E1, R5C1, R5C3 and R5D2 are all sub 1000

we're getting a bit deeper every rundown

[dense saffron]

Schaeffer didn't work for KDS, he's an independent contractor

[pulsar crater]

wasnt he a pit boss for SMC

[dense saffron]

There's a log that talks about the explosion, describing it as a "energy surge / laser beam"

[dense saffron]

The logs imply he's not directly employed by SMC

[scenic wagon]

""looking at their pit boss for orders"" I remember that one yea

[dense saffron]

John,

Congratulations on hitting the target. We're ahead of schedule.

All Garganta personnel will be working in 24 week blocks. Traffic in and out
of Garganta will be strictly monitored by Kovac security. No off site travel
will be authorized. Let your team know that there will be no exceptions.
That's why we pay them well.

If any of your team cannot handle it, we are willing to terminate contracts
now. We will implement the new schedule starting September 15th. Failure to
request contract termination by then will be deemed as acceptance of the new
terms, and now contract papers will be drafted.

Stop calling it the hole.

Andrew Clinton B035``` this log specifically, to me, implies that schaeffer is independent

[scenic wagon]

how so?

[dense saffron]

lol the log got snipped by the bot, damn

[pulsar crater]

they did say its an opinion*

[dense saffron]

Anyway, I didn’t understand a lot of what the nerds were talking about but I did get that they sent a probe in to inspect the chamber. They’ve got KSOs holding off Sleepers left and right but they’re keeping it held down then suddenly BOOM. I know you must have felt it. We were topside and we felt it. Honestly, I thought the walls were going to collapse and we’d all be drowned then I remembered I built them so NAH WE GOOD.
 
I don’t know what it was though. Some kind of energy blast that fucked up anything in its path and left behind these molten passages. Like shit isn’t mad enough already on this job, now we got laser beams shooting at us.
 
Fucken. Nutz.```

there we go

[scenic wagon]

Contract papers could refer to anything. NDA's, anything relating to the machinery,

[dense saffron]

yeah the contract papers to me at least make it sound like it's an outside company

[solar nova]

I guess the R4 objectives where we get tons of proteins and hormones is to maintain the KDS Deep HSUs.

A lot of setting up for this moment.

[manic shuttle]

I tought it was mostly the implant booster what we were getting

[solar nova]

The audio logs in A3 and a lot of the logs talking about supplies seem to suggest proteins and hormones are required to run HSUs, so that's probably what the huge stock we have is for.

[lilac island]

molten passages implies that the energy blasts are the reasons for the way that the entryways to expeditions look, rather than it being a result of the overheating of the server room

[molten tundra]

where are the logs in a2

[graceful lotus]

last room

the one with the cargo

the terminal is in the smack center of the room

you'll hear a buzzing sound

[molten tundra]

is it the one with like 500 logs

i tried listening to one and didn't get much other than buzzing

[placid basin]

Yeah because you need to find 4 from the logs

[burnt light]

The good ones are larger. If I remember correctly, the size number starts with 4 instead of 1.

[royal gull]

if you're lazy to redo the map most logs are catalogued on the wiki: https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Rundown_005

[molten tundra]

i'll take a look. its a bit annoying for that one cuz i can't easily solo to the end to listen

[dull orchid]

any updated lore

that i can readup on haha

[graceful lotus]

if you want a data base check the pins

though it's organized by the logs so it's really hard to get an overview of what is happening

unless you want to spend a few hours reading it

[wet condor]

I am convinced that BIOCOM is the warden

In the 2nd woods interview log the interviewer says "BIOCOM sees all"

I think the interviewer could be Jansen Davies

Although it seems unlikely as the CTO of Dreyfus probably wouldnt be doing something like interviewing a legion operative

Jesus their memory wipe shit worked really well on Hackett, he doesnt remember that he killed his own brother let alone his name

[scenic wagon]

he remembers his name

[wet condor]

his brothers name

[scenic wagon]

when asked he repliedi with Aiden

oh

😄

yea, it worked on half of them except for Woods and maybe Dauda

[wet condor]

Bishop?

He remembered Davies

[scenic wagon]

bishop only really started panicking when they mentioned HSU's

[wet condor]

Anyone got a vid of the snatcher in E1?

[dim scroll]

Do you really think there is a "snatcher" in E1 ?

[gilded vine]

Gotta look again to find it

[lilac island]

well, the thing with memories is that emotions are heavily tied to them, if you don't have any emotional connection to a memory, then you'll be kinda SOL for actually remembering it

[naive quail]

here I am thinking that 'oh yeh, am prisoner, go on adventure' was the entire plot

[devout geyser]

LOL

[lilac island]

its literally like the payday 1 lore vs payday 2 lore meme except its payday 2 lore vs gtfo lore

[lilac island]

also yeah what is this about then

[solar nova]

@devout geyser Yo, you mind if I post the lore database to the reddit?

[devout geyser]

sure

[solar nova]

Were some of the website logs not in-game?

[pulsar crater]

i actually wonder that too

[burnt light]

Some logs are called differently, some logs that were separated in game are shown as one in the website, but as far as I can tell, even the logs in the corrupted folder are in game now. But I might be wrong tho.

I am, in fact, wrong. The first log shown in the corrupted folder on the website might not be in game but I have no way to check right now.

[sinful robin]

The only log from the website that I have yet to find in-game is FRT-044-V from the corrupted folder talking about KDS Deep and BIOCOM trying to reroute power to it

As far as I know, I've checked every single terminal

[devout geyser]

yea that was the only one that is not ingame

[lilac island]

Does anyone have a good video on lore?

[graceful lotus]

@lilac island
wowinfinitebagger has 2 summing up the basics
Professor Scaler has 2 on the recent r3/r4 lore

that should help you most of what is going on

[lilac island]

Nice nice thank you

[pulsar crater]

reading the timeline aids you too

helped me alot

[graceful lotus]

its pretty lengthy though

[pulsar crater]

yeah

[surreal swift]

r5c3 is the only expedition in r5 that has drop cage depth >1100m

has anyone actually tried entering "RESIST" into a terminal and achieved some kind of result

[pulsar crater]

yes

[surreal swift]

what did they find

[pulsar crater]

audio log

[surreal swift]

really

just an audio log

[pulsar crater]

yes

[surreal swift]

laem

what did it say

[pulsar crater]

under Schaeffer's logs on this site you can find it

i dont recall which it is

[surreal swift]

thx

[unborn steppe]

so do the characters have any dialogue when listening to the new audio logs? I know they comment on the ones in A2

[royal gull]

I can't find the logs mentioning cretasium and the reason they went for the core at Deep Reach excavation.

[burnt light]

WKRP-817-CIN.LOG (MSL report K-UX-DeepScan) is the one about cretasium.
I can't find any talking explicitly about the the core or Deep Reach either.

[silver vine]

Wait, they do that ? What are their reaction, I've never checked

[real pewter]

i think they have

but idk if it played after you finished the logs

[solar nova]

I don't remember any reaction dialogue either?

[royal gull]

There's no reaction dialogue in the game. Not yet.

[small bobcat]

what is in KDS Deep? I know what the acronyms stand for but it sounds ominous as hell

[dim scroll]

You mean what's inside the level ?

or what contains the room for the terminal + what does the command do ?

[small bobcat]

nah what the level entails, environments and lore wise

i only just finished A1, prolly not gonna make it all the way down there before this rundown ends

[dim scroll]

Well the level is in the mining environment (or whatever its name is), heavily occupied by toxic fog & the command in the last terminal (KDS DEEP CRISIS OVERRIDE) removes all the fog (by restarting a gigantic vent ? idk). The last room is filled with HSUs

[hasty pier]

kds = kovac defense system, basically they were the security team for the facility before... well, everyone died. at the very end of the level, you find a massive room lined with tons of hsus, presumably housing KSOs (kovac security officers) in hydrostasis

[dim scroll]

Isn't the command supposed to open the said HSUs ?

[hasty pier]

probably?

i think it's to prepare them for deployment in the facility

[dim scroll]

That might be it

However i don't get the link between D1 & E1

[small bobcat]

wait, are we assumably gonna just set em loose in the complex? Not extract the units?

[dim scroll]

There's tons of them

probably impossible to extract them all

[hasty pier]

this rundown has a lot of lore pieces on memory wipes and that, the warden will probably utilize them in the field as prisoners rather than save them

i doubt that e1 is a rescue mission

[dim scroll]

There should be a pic of the last room somewhere

give me a sec

[solar nova]

We're going deeper brother

[dim scroll]

Found it

@small bobcat

Good luck extracting everyone here

[small bobcat]

holy shit

[hasty pier]

there's also another elevator in that room

[dim scroll]

yup

[hasty pier]

similar to the one you drop down in every expedition

[dim scroll]

What i don't understand however is why didn't they send the prisoners through this elevator first

[hasty pier]

so it's heavily implied it's going to be a forward drop point

lack of access most likely

that's why had to do the override

it may not connect to the surface

[dim scroll]

So something above the elevator was completely blocking the access for this elevator

[small bobcat]

shit, that makes sense

[solar nova]

I would assume that tether attaches to a ceiling not far above.

[hasty pier]

yeah

it''s already nearly a km underground

building an elevator to go even deeper than that sounds like a structural nightmare

[small bobcat]

if theyre not gonna extract the units back to the surface, they wouldnt have to send the prisoners down all the way from the surface either

[hasty pier]

so breaking it up into two smaller ones makes sense

yeah

[small bobcat]

i wonder if the guys in there are aware that the complex is now home to a literal army of freaks

[dim scroll]

They probably know

[hasty pier]

in the hsus?

[dim scroll]

Otherwise they wouldn't be stucked in HSUs

[small bobcat]

yeah

[hasty pier]

they might have pulled a dauda and hid inside of the hsus to save themselves

[solar nova]

The HSUs are almost certainly all legion or people who used them as a last resort to escape death.

They wouldn't remember anything.

At least, they would remember very little.

[hasty pier]

yep

someone mentioned that r4 was all about gathering proteins/hormones to prepare the hsus, which i found really interesting

[small bobcat]

ohhhhhh

[hasty pier]

especially since there wasn't a clear objective to r4, at least on the warden's end.

[small bobcat]

R5 "Rebith"

it is VERY heavily implied to that end

[dim scroll]

What about R4D2's cargo then ?

[solar nova]

OSIPs and GLPs are both hormones I think, and cryo cases contain a protein according to their query description.

[dim scroll]

Since it doesn't seem to look like B3's cargo

[hasty pier]

i don't remember what the cargo said on query tbh

[dim scroll]

idk if it's even possible to query what's inside the cargo

[solar nova]

Cargo we don't know anything about besides the one in R2 being the "pmother trial samples."

Query had nothing, I checked all of these items way back.

[hasty pier]

cargo could really be anything - hormones, maps, ids, whatever. the warden needs quite a lot of different parts to keep moving through the complex

[solar nova]

We also know that there were a number of terminal commands we needed to enter and a few dataspheres to work with.

[small bobcat]

so, i dont know any of the lore but from what you guys said, the monsters and assumably mutations were a hostile and violent takeover?

[solar nova]

I think I had the text for those written down at some point...

[hasty pier]

yep, it's implied that it was a fairly long fight against the sleepers, thanks to that one schafer log

[dim scroll]

That's globally it

[solar nova]

A1:
Collect HDDs.
Establish uplinks to upload HDD data.
A2:
Collect cryogenic cases for IGF-1 proteins.
Collect HSU DNA core.
Disable life support for HSUs in "sector 108."
B1:
Distribute power cells (for Z085 power cluster).
Start up reactor (for Z085 power cluster?).
B2:
Stabilize climate control w/ gen cluster.
Adjust temperature in "sublevel 821."
Collect OSIP enzymes.
C1:
Retrieve nFrame data via data sphere.
Establish uplink (Retrieving neural imprinting protocols).
C2:
Collect GLP-1 hormones (as congeners).
Collect PIDs.
Retrieve corrupted data sphere.
D1:
Start up reactor (quadrant's main power source).
Route power to "quadrant 038H."
D2:
Clear a path from z91 to z102.
Power gen cluster linked to air purification.
Retrieve cargo.

[dim scroll]

Some dudes even killed themselves because of it

Like the guy that jumped on the drill's head

[hasty pier]

hm

still not sure why we disabled hsu life support in a2

[dim scroll]

No idea tbh

[hasty pier]

perhaps they were compromised by the sleepers/became infected in hydrostasis?

[dim scroll]

How would the warden know that though

Especially on A2 ?

It's near the surface

It wouldn't have surprised me if it were C3 for ex

[hasty pier]

the warden knows quite a lot, it can probably monitor the status of hsus remotely

[small bobcat]

where can i find these?

[hasty pier]

uhhh

it's in a3

i don't have a screenshot handy

[solar nova]

Chase has a bunch documented in the pins.

[hasty pier]

it's in the resource room iirc

[solar nova]

He's got a site set up for it.

[small bobcat]

aight, thank you

[hasty pier]

@small bobcat https://www.notion.so/BIOCOM-illicit-communication-32d89344964844da8c0d11480d59aca6

this is the one i was talking about

[solar nova]

@devout geyser Yo, you should probably document what's in special terminal commands for COMMANDS.

[hasty pier]

he mentions that the KSOs are keeping it somewhat held down, so we can assume that the sleeper threat wasn't exactly an overnight sweep

[solar nova]

Not sure whether any of the sublevels, sectors, quadrants, etc. will ever actually be meaningful, but you never know.

Some logs mention those ideas, so it could easily be relevant in the distant future.

[silver vine]

There was a lot of supposition that R4 was also about gathering power, and be able to use it elsewhere.
Disabling HSU could be about that

[hasty pier]

i'd imagine that if maintaining hsus actually did require a significant amount of power, we would be doing it more often tbh

that stands out to me because it's the first and only time we've done it, yet we're interacted with hsus since the start

[silver vine]

We're doing that in R5B1

[small bobcat]

huh, he made no mention of when they started showing up

[solar nova]

The logs do mention that certain interactions w/ KDS Deep could overload the power grid, so it could easily be the case that it requires a lot of extra energy to function.

[hasty pier]

hmm

probably just a gameplay thing then

[silver vine]

But in R4 a lot of mission where related to power. Some only for that like B1 and D1

[hasty pier]

yeah for sure

though in every rundown there are a number of levels about getting more power, typically through the reactors

[dim scroll]

E1 was focused on power too

[silver vine]

We're even starting a freaking reactor in E1 extreme. Like Warden so thirsty for power we go that deep for it

[hasty pier]

i still believe that the main reason the warden sends us to e1 is to secure schaefer tbh

the reactor was probably just done because it was along the way

[dim scroll]

I think the reactor was intended too

if we were to secure schaeffer we wouldn't have cells with us in the first place

It just worsened the whole situation

[hasty pier]

the cells were to lift the lockdown on the zone

and if we didn't do that we'd die before we reached schaefer

[solar nova]

3 reactor startups in R4, 3 reactor startups in R5, some cell objectives, and some gen clusters for climate control.

A lot of the path clearing is allegedly to "assess threats" or create a diversion that can clear other more densely populated areas of the complex.

[silver vine]

I think there is purpose behind every reactor / cell gathering. Opening deeper path in the same rundown (like it's explicitly said in R5C2 intel) or just harnesting power.
The fact that the last level / difficulty of R4 is a reactor and we open up R5 by overriding the lockdown (meaning we didn't need the reactor to do it) makes me believe R4 was really just about power gathering

And if the end of R5 is powering something up, for me it all make sense

[hasty pier]

i don't think the override in a1 is the same as the one in e1

completely different sectors at very different depths

[silver vine]

I just mean the end of R4 isn't linked to the beginning of R5

so R4 ending has a meaning on its own rather than opening the path for R5

[hasty pier]

i agree that the ending of r4 is separate from r5, but i honestly would find it kinda dull if the culmination of r4 was just more power to work with.
the warden likely has access to other reactors nearby, and i believe that the primary reason we were even sent into r4e1 was to secure scaefer or confirm his demise.

[solar nova]

Personally, I don't think the WRDN gives a shit about Schaeffer.

Oh, just realized that A2 might be counted as a 4th reactor if we're rerouting its power to something else.

[hasty pier]

a2 is what a normally functioning reactor is supposed to be, given that we don't have to do a startup sequence for it

we just reroute the power from a low priority sector to presumably somewhere more important

[dim scroll]

Then wouldn't the command be REROUTE_POWER or something similar ?

Instead of disabling the HSU ?

[hasty pier]

r5a2

[solar nova]

R5 ^

[dim scroll]

oh ok

If R5A2 is an already-working reactor then ye

[hasty pier]

it's the exact same tile as the r4b1/r5c2 reactor

[silver vine]

I don't really think the point of R4E1 was Schaeffer but I don't really remember what schaeffer related thing we we're looking for in here

[solar nova]

In the case of R4A2, I would assume disabling life support for HSUs would just free up power for a reactor that is already providing power to something important.

[silver vine]

The intel of R5D1 is related to disabling life preserving system (I would guess HSU) to gather power too. Even if it's a reactor shutdown

Shut down power in a quadrant to redirect it, even deeper

[hasty pier]

makes sense

for whatever reason i thought that shutting down life support was meant to kill the sleepers, i never thought it was about disabling hsu life support lol

[solar nova]

It's to disable security, no?

Opening passages was the goal of the R1 reactor shutdown as well, and this leads to R2.

[hasty pier]

extreme is to disable life support

[solar nova]

Ahh

[silver vine]

And also R4A1 is related to R3, I checked the intel and it's "Rundown protocol 3.0 completed. Acces from R3D1 established."
That's not the case with R5A1. That's why it make me think R4 was gathering realted : Osip, GLP, Power

[silver vine]

Security system yes

[small bobcat]

fuuuck reading the logs gave me really wide insight

[solar nova]

So the neonate was related to security access?

Interesting, guess we never got a particularly strong answer on what that was about besides us accessing its data.

[silver vine]

Neonate is R2 ?

[solar nova]

We get it in R2.

R3 we cash out.

[silver vine]

Oh, the end of R4A1 intel : "Comprehensive research data required for further development" and the mission was HDD related

So I guess after R3 we still ned more data ==> R4 is datacenter centric also

[hasty pier]

hdds probably contained info on how to get the hsus ready

[dim scroll]

R5A2 also had a HDD

[hasty pier]

r4 as a whole seems to be just a setup for the ending of r5e1

[dim scroll]

Wouldn't that be the reason the R5 is named Rebirth then ?

[hasty pier]

that, and the whole respawning cocoons lol

[dim scroll]

that too

[solar nova]

Yeah, R4 has lots of:
-Resource collection
-Data collection
-Security item and DNA collection
-Climate control management
-Power collection and rerouting
-Unknown cargo

And this is also true of R5.

[silver vine]

Another theory could be the the OSIP and GLP gathering is for the booster with have now.
Neonate could be also Booster related.

[dim scroll]

Ah yes, lets consume the child

[hasty pier]

i think the neonate was to open access

but the hormones could be for the application of boosters as well as the hsus

[solar nova]

Boosters seem to be very much their own thing imo.

Especially considering we have logs explicitly dealing with dosing various compounds in the context of HSUs, I think the case for that is considerably stronger.

[silver vine]

I rather them be their own thing, but we also have logs mentioning them

[hasty pier]

do we know what the artifacts are exactly?

[solar nova]

I would assume they're like syringes, and probably related to sleepers.

Just checked, apparently related to KDS.

Might not be that special, then.

Although there are weird substances in the core of artifacts.

[hasty pier]

a quick look at the logs tells me that the boosters are composed of PRDM proteins, so maybe the artifacts are clusters of the proteins that the warden can recombine?

a bit odd that they're just lying about all over the place, but that could just be gameplay

[small bobcat]

i thought the same, bit odd to have these just all over the place

[delicate heron]

One of the logs actually talks about the artifacts being similar origin to some "egg" they found with a probe

"Sector analysis complete. The mass extends 2,215 (+/- 372m) meters from apex
to nadir. Width estimate is 1,247 meters (+/- 208m). As suspected, it is
largely made up of the newly discovered Cretasium 77a material, and
surrounded by a thin membrane of iridium. Further analysis is required to
determine if the material composition mirrors the artifacts. The data
suggests the composition of the "egg" is not identical to the artifacts, but
shares properties. This suggests a similar origin."

[solar nova]

Apparently they affect gene expression.

Very interesting.

[hasty pier]

could you link me that log?

i don't think i've seen that one

[silver vine]

Reading the Intel of R4 and R5, R5B1 isn't about power but retrieving DNA, my bad on this

[solar nova]

MSL report K-UX-DeepScan

[delicate heron]

Its the MSL report K-UX-DeepScan in the Lore Database thats pinned

[small bobcat]

i believe this egg is the core they mentioned, but i have no idea

but still so many questions unanswered\

[solar nova]

Peak cosmic horror.

[devout geyser]

you would think 27 logs would clear the story up, but we are just left even more confused

it did fill in some pretty big holes in the story tho

[silver vine]

No more confused, but with as much question as before ^^

Which is damn good lore

[solar nova]

R5Ext is by far the most lore we've gotten at once.

[small bobcat]

seems like it's still unclear where the hell the sleepers came from, but god damn did they keep working even with those things attacking the miners

[hasty pier]

i don't think that the artifacts mentioned in the msl report are the same as the artifacts we use to create boosters

[silver vine]

We have a beginning of an answer

[solar nova]

Possibly.

I do suspect we're getting a lot of info dumped on us just because development is more optimistic rn.

[devout geyser]

i still want to know what was the biomass that was spreading throughout the complex right before autogen

[small bobcat]

yeah, they might be related to the virus and parasite, but we still have no beginning of when they showed up and when the sleepers start actually come to be

[devout geyser]

in one of the datacenter screens

[small bobcat]

god damn i want to git gud and go deep with you guys

[solar nova]

R4 and R5 pre-ext definitely felt like it was stalling a bit.

[small bobcat]

but alas im still a fresh rookie and only managed to get past A1

[solar nova]

Few big reveals, just adding to what we had mostly.

[hasty pier]

if the composition of the artifacts mentioned in the msl log are at least similar to the mass, it wouldn't make sense for the warden artifacts to be similar. boosters are mentioned to be composed of protein, and the mass has an extremely low % composition of carbon. the warden would have to pull some magic to make protein boosters out of .54% carbon.

[small bobcat]

if it be like so, these artifacts might be the ones we havnt seen yet?

[delicate heron]

Didnt the log say they are not of similar composition to the mass?

but likely of similar origin

[solar nova]

Ammonia-based life!?

[royal finch]

We're all out here theorizing... but i still wonder... who's Warden? 👀

The most asked, prolly still unsolved question

[delicate heron]

The warden is the friends we make along the way

[royal finch]

theories go

LOL

[solar nova]

Given we have a fictional material (compound? element?), it could be some sort of fictional protein.

Would be kind of weird to specifically identify an unknown material as a protein, though.

[small bobcat]

theres still a lot for us to see i think, whats the dept the majority of C, D, and E levels take place at

?

[hasty pier]

"composition of the "egg" is not identical to the artifacts, but shares properties. This suggests a similar origin." wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for it to be vastly different

[small bobcat]

the logs mentioned that things start going ballers above 2km

[royal finch]

The biomass is pulsating so im gonna assume its alive. Maybe a new enemy, or some kind of parasite itself? 👀

[royal gull]

only cretasium seems to be fictional, and is put on the periodic table with iridium (msl report k-ux-deepscan states it's cretasium77).

[solar nova]

Ah, that's what the 77 is on about.

[royal gull]

I suppose it's worth at least as much as iridium, and given the core is massive (2215 meters top to nadir and 1247 width), it's worth billions

[hasty pier]

it would be fairly far from iridium if the specific isotope is cretasium - 77

[dim scroll]

Considering the shit we're facing at 1KM i don't even wanna know what's waiting us on lower levels 😳

[hasty pier]

for reference, most isotopes of iridium are between 180-190 amu

[small bobcat]

things go straight H.R.Gigers prolly

[solar nova]

Wondering what "pmother trial samples" were.

Seems to be related to the neonate if we kicked off R2 w/ it.

[hasty pier]

implies that they experimented upon the pmother in r3d1 in the past

[solar nova]

I seriously doubt the pmother is an enemy.

[hasty pier]

granted, i have no clue what the samples themselves are

isn't it referred to as a pmother by the warden?

[solar nova]

No, never.

[dim scroll]

How the fuck did they even approach it lmao

[hasty pier]

maybe the community names got in my head lol

[dim scroll]

Except if they used a freaking cfoam cannon

[royal gull]

I'm not good with elements, but I supposed cretasium 77a was mentioned because of its place on the periodic table. When I checked the table iridium was listed Ir77. What do you think ?

[dim scroll]

then sealed it away

[small bobcat]

pmother? Is that a special Mother variant?

[dim scroll]

Yeah, you find it in R5D1

It's a gigantic mother with horns

[small bobcat]

no

[dim scroll]

way more HP & more babies iirc

that size

[small bobcat]

NO

[solar nova]

People called it the pmother, but it's not named that officially anywhere, and I seriously doubt it's related to the trial samples.

[dim scroll]

Well what would be called pMother otherwise

[solar nova]

Literally anything else related to neonates.

[hasty pier]

chemical nomenclature means that if you specify an element name - X, you are referring to a specific isotope of an element with a weight in Xamu (i.e. carbon - 12 would have a weight of 12amu, but still would only remain at an atomic number of 6). the cretasium - 77 implies that it has a weight of 77amu, which would likely give it an atomic number vastly different to that of iridium, though it could be a non-standard naming practice because i have no clue what 77a means.

[dim scroll]

So something that gives birth to the said infants that are sealed in the neonates ?

[hasty pier]

thank you 9th grade chem lmao

[dim scroll]

Would be kinda sick tho

[solar nova]

It could be that, it could be something like a DNA sample that helps us identify the particular neonate we need, it could be something that helps us reactivate the neonate HSU, etc.

[dim scroll]

That would be a weird name to call it pMother tbh

[solar nova]

No?

[dim scroll]

why would you call a DNA Sample a pMother ?

You could call it Parent DNA or something like that

[hasty pier]

do we know what the neonate was exactly?

was it a full human or...?

[dim scroll]

wasn't it an infant ?

[solar nova]

Parent mother seems perfectly on-point, not to mention if it's a chemical the P could stand for anything while mother would just mean you're "mothering" the neonate.

We don't know, although it's probably human.

[dim scroll]

i didn't play R2 but i recall you have to open it

and for a while you can see what's inside

[hasty pier]

you don't in r2

r2 you just grab it

[dim scroll]

oh

[solar nova]

It's just a leathery cover in R3.

[dim scroll]

was it R3 ?

[solar nova]

Yes.

[hasty pier]

r3b2 (?) you unseal it and see the outline of a child iirc

[dim scroll]

It strangely looks like a mother's tumor

[hasty pier]

whatever it is, it's alive

and i'm not sure why the warden needs it to be connected to the nframe

[dim scroll]

probably for retrieving data

[fair lion]

biocom growing a human body for itself

[dim scroll]

😳

No idea why it would need such data though

Not to mention if these experiments weren't recent (compared to the complex's collapse date), they should have enough data

[hasty pier]

looking at the wiki, the hsu reads "modified synapsis path" and "DNA read/write enabled"

[dim scroll]

Ayo we making mothers but they help us in expeditions

[hasty pier]

please

[dim scroll]

😔

[small bobcat]

maybe it is one of the keys to understanding the monsters

[dim scroll]

What's interesting for now is that they never mentioned people being infected

yet we see the monsters having human-like forms & patterns

[solar nova]

They kind of do, though?

[dim scroll]

Wdym ?

Mentioning infection ?

[small bobcat]

they mentioned people being infected by the parasites and virus, but we are missing the link when they transform into the monsters we see

[dim scroll]

I surely missed important logs then

[small bobcat]

you can check it in the latest pin, tag is NAM-V iirc

[fair lion]

i'm surprised we're getting this much in early access

[small bobcat]

what we have now is just the start of the infection (no mention of the virus/parasite origin either) then skip to casual mentioning of sleepers and monsters

[dim scroll]

I see mentions of infection on the surface (for now)

[solar nova]

Potentially relevant logs:
-Analyst Report
-Subject Analysis
-CDC National Alert System

[dim scroll]

Yup

There is indeed the mention of a virus

Any log mentioning the pm ?

[solar nova]

Don't believe so.

There was a log dealing with a parasite, but I can't find it now...

Oh, that is subject analysis

nvm

[small bobcat]

we may get additional lore in the subsequent rundowns where we potentially go deeper

[dim scroll]

So the subject analysis log seems to describe someone becoming a regular sleeper

I wonder how the other sleepers are made ngl

[small bobcat]

i still want a broader and more complete picture of what went down and how did the complex go the way it did

[graceful lotus]

waiting for that day E1 is actually the lowest level

[small bobcat]

that'd be crazy

maybe a long ass rundown from A to Z

[wet condor]

I just finished D2 and I have no idea what shit just kicked off

Why did we have to evacuate?

Im curious to know what would happen if you dont put in the final verification code after 10mins

Does the whole place just blow up?

[solar nova]

Repeat wave prolly?

Can't extract either

[devout geyser]

btw, you can click this button and swap to board view

if you want to see logs grouped to NAM-V, Project Insight, etc.

[solar nova]

Oh, that's what board view does.

Cool.

[heavy lodge]

Have a feeling that the extraction scan is just for uploading the expedition’s memories. After the scan Warden activate some sort of kill switch that kill them. Going to “forward exit” is just the Warden trying to drain some last remaining value of the squad to clear out the sector.

[devout geyser]

not clone theory again

[real pewter]

but is it wrong tho

there are no elevator at the extraction

the warden just told you to go to this location and "the end"

[devout geyser]

e1 has an elevator

[slim fractal]

[real pewter]

that go down

are we - the players count as KSO?

or are we just another unit

[small bobcat]

Hold up, i thought A1 extraction was a cargo elevator

[solar nova]

They probably send an elevator down.

[royal gull]

how about the clown theory

[wet condor]

If the warden killed everyone at the end of each mission he'd eventually run out

It's in everyone's best interest to get the guys out

[real pewter]

i would think so but

why don't the warden just, leave the elevator right there at extraction

instead of waiting for the extraction scan to finish, and THEN send the elevator down

[solar nova]

I mean, it's a pretty nice view.

We really need to take it in.

[real pewter]

it would be more epic that the warden actually send the elevator down

it also give you the "immersion" as well when you're fighting the waves and looking at the elevator dropping down at the same time

for now, we're just -> go to extraction scan -> finish scan -> black screen

it's like you just "die"

[heavy lodge]

Ye and also some levels like R4E1, the Warden can just tell the squad to go back to the spawn to extract them back to surface but instead it/they ordered the prisoners to go to the forward exit point which is basically “clear the part of the sector”.

[small bobcat]

I mean, we always play as the same crew, if we be not clones, we'd be the super lucky squad who survived everything from R1 up to now

Prolly the warden's favorite crew at this point

[scenic wagon]

What made the sleeper pods?

I doubt the sleepers made them

Maybe it’s like the Zerg. There is a guiding intelligence or something

[pulsar crater]

all we know is it is a biomass like material

that was mentioned when they drilled down below 2000m

not any logs mentioning pods or anything

so we dont really know

@devout geyser do you know anything?

[raw perch]

It dont go down

[devout geyser]

LMAO that’s what i’m calling it from now on

[scenic wagon]

@devout geyser know anything about sleeper pods from your bug hunting experiences? Any logs mentioning them?

[devout geyser]

…

[scenic wagon]

I’ll take that as a no

[devout geyser]

I don’t even know what you mean by sleeper pod

[scenic wagon]

The black things on the ceiling

[pulsar crater]

respawn pods

[scenic wagon]

That spawn sleepers

[shut mountain]

Ya mean the cocoons

[devout geyser]

OH yeah no nothing

[scenic wagon]

Lol. So many different names

[shut mountain]

In game they use the name cocoons Thats why we were confused about what ya meant by pods

[graceful lotus]

let us torch cocoons

flamethrower type beat

[royal gull]

I wish cocoons had their animation to repop sleepers with a slimy sfx.

https://tenor.com/view/alien-covenant-alien-pregnant-gif-8480593

[devout geyser]

would love an extermination type quest

destroy all cocoons in the area

[royal gull]

Not being able to destroy or interact with them is absurd imo. Would be so cool to hammer a cocoon and trigger the whole respawn of cocoons

[devout geyser]

it may come one day. that's just a lot of coding they could put into other things i guess

[royal gull]

Maybe one day when sleepers won't merge into walls

[waxen widget]

make it spawns huge swarms of baby strikers

[finite vine]

cant agree more. it really sucks that you cant interact with them.

[waxen widget]

at least shooting spitters makes them spit but nothing happens with cocoons.

[worthy flower]

would be fun to sync blast a set of cocoons

then the room respawns are permanently reduced.

they certainly have collision

[small bobcat]

Oh i would love to expend some ammo popping cocoons to reduce or stop respawning

[shrewd stone]

What's Legion

[gaunt plover]

legi - on deez nuts

[devout geyser]

added them

[solar nova]

<3

[devout geyser]

forgot the level for a few of them

[solar nova]

DEACTIVATE_AIR_FILTRATION must have been R5D1? OPEN_SECURITY_DOORS and RELEASE_CONTAINMENT should be R5C2 and R5B3 respectively just based off what I remember.

[devout geyser]

ty

disable life support was on 2 levels

[solar nova]

I don't remember where that's used at all, actually.

Besides A2 obv

[solar nova]

Yeah, I actually have no idea what level that was in, I've gone through every objective in my head and checked the wiki and I have no recollection of when this was used.

[graceful lotus]

the wiki does miss like half of them

[rocky shuttle]

I actually think there was a disable life support last rundown

[solar nova]

Right, but there should be another one somewhere in R4 or R5.

[rocky shuttle]

I don't recall one for R5 but yeah, i think there was one in r4

[graceful lotus]

There was one probably in R4

I don't remember which one

[rocky shuttle]

I remember it being one where

[solar nova]

R4A2Extreme

[rocky shuttle]

You type in the command and it spawns a bunch of sleepers and hybrids

[solar nova]

but that's the known one

I'm talking about the 2nd one

I don't recall it anywhere.

[surreal lark]

R4A2 overload was the disable life support

The extreme for it was hsu iirc

No other level has disable life support

[rich blaze]

A KDS (Kovac) project which is alluded to be reprogramming of people to make them soldiers while forgetting all previous memories, all of our current "prisonners" seem to be part of it. It seems to induct people with the exception of Hackett who went there voluntarily

[royal finch]

This is getting funky

[devout geyser]

dauda was not part of legion btw

[rich blaze]

it deffo looks like he got inducted into it tho

[shrewd stone]

i mean, he did Unspecified Bad Crimes and he agreed to join the project to not get sent to the Hague or whatever

[devout geyser]

he was part of project insight

sealed himself into an HSU to escape the sleepers

[scenic wagon]

He was “forcefully” conscripted by SMC. Albeit he was wanted by INTERPOL for various crimes AFAIK

[shrewd stone]

were Santonium or Insight or whoever specifically looking for Sleepers? What i'm gathering from the logs is that Sleepers have been around for a while and whenever there's an earthquake in the area, some Sleepers would escape and fuck up the Mayans or whoever

[graceful lotus]

I don't think so

[shrewd stone]

Like obviously their plan also involved the Legion project, and the cryopods,

and by They i mean "any of the relevant megacorps who seem to be working together"

[graceful lotus]

I think the hole released the virus that made people sleepers or something

they do mention a lot of mutated people

and we do see many bent over dead people in the complex

it probably points to some kind of virus rather than sleepers coming out of the ground

[shrewd stone]

i assumed the dead people just didn't manage to fully gestate through the Sleeperfication process

i mean they're doing Downward Dog and everything

[graceful lotus]

yeah

[shrewd stone]

but what i mean is, this has been happening for millenia

but now SMC is digging deeper than has previously been exposed

[graceful lotus]

they've released quite a lot of lore for being in early access

I wonder if we'll get all of it by 1.0

[shrewd stone]

TBH im waiting for there to be enough that someone makes a comprehensive video

[graceful lotus]

there are a quite a lot of videos

[shrewd stone]

re: things that arent just in the data files, what was up with the goo baby in Rundown 3?

[graceful lotus]

but r5 itself has had so much lore that it basically covers half the piece

[graceful lotus]

yeet the baby

[shrewd stone]

like, that was before i started playing and also i'll probably never get to any exciting lore stuff in game since my friends and i only barely managed to do r5A1

[graceful lotus]

just spend 5 hours reading chases database

[shrewd stone]

but like, is that a Sleeper baby?

[graceful lotus]

no

it's just a normal baby I think

[shrewd stone]

do you mean this? https://www.notion.so/Timeline-0e93a62e8cfd44b3a36beb4ab245a2d0

[graceful lotus]

yes

[shrewd stone]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/4/41/OpenedNeonate.png/revision/latest?cb=20200618024950

this isnt a normal baby

[graceful lotus]

oh I think you meant the normal baby

also wiki 005 updated level cards when >:(

[shrewd stone]

Oh wait, so was the HSU a normal baby in a pod, but in order to put it into a Neural Frame, whatever the fuck that is, it has to be "processed" into goo?

Like you just put a frozen baby into a blender?

[graceful lotus]

you never know

I started playing in r4ext so I'm not too sure

[shrewd stone]

Oh cool so Sleeper outbreak has spread to Florida

fun fun fun

[graceful lotus]

it already spread there 300 years ago

[shrewd stone]

when? I just see the CDC outbreak doc

[graceful lotus]

it's florida\

[burnt light]

On a side note, processing the neonate consisted in three parts.
First, resuscitate it. Put it into a machine that didn't shake it but it moved it around a bit, and then it's ready to be opened, just like our HSU at the beginning of every map.
Second, depressurize it. Simply opening it. Kinda the same process we do with the High Sec Cargo now in R5B3. There you got what you see in the picture above.
Finally, connect it to the nFrame. Same thing we do with the dataspheres but with the baby. Injecting or extracting something from it. And then we left it there.
There's also a page about it in the wiki https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Process_Neonate
Why this happened? What exactly was the neonate? Maybe some day we'll know.

[wet condor]

Could be a storage medium for data?

I mean 1 gram of DNA is enough for 215PB, so an entire baby worth of usable DNA material is like easily in the 10s of 1000s of exabytes

In the auto-gen log it says the data is redistributed, perhaps a large part of the data was backed up onto the vessel

[scenic wagon]

only in GTFO can I say I used a baby as my hard drive. and not be joking about it

[graceful lotus]

cursed

[cold harbor]

could sleepers have originated from trying to use fully grown people has information storage devices + something with the parasite?

and maybe people infected with the NAV virus arent at risk of death until their dna has been modified for storage, as the prisoners have been living “fine” while infected

[wet condor]

I'm more inclined to believe that its like the cadou out of re village

Virus inside a parasite as a vector

[small bobcat]

I wonder what the master goal of the warden would be

[lilac island]

Containment/eradication of the infected I would imagine.

To that end this rundown seems to be accelerating that process somewhat with the influx protocol.

[small bobcat]

Ya, we seem to be getting a huge influx (lmao) of manpower

If this isnt a rescue op that is

[lilac island]

That would be an interesting take. Maybe Warden was running out of prisoners? That would explain why IP was activated, in order to attain a legion of new manpower from deep within enemy territory

[graceful lotus]

But the level cards always say "Prisoners are expendable" or something like that

[solar nova]

BIOCOM also wanted access to KDS Deep very early on, before KDS had ceased operations entirely.

[solar nova]

To add, I think this would suggest it's not necessarily low on prisoners (although I'd expect this to at least be a consideration), but it probably has some purpose for KDS Deep that it's been pursuing from the beginning.

Most likely KDS Deep has exclusive access to deeper regions of the complex, or it's just got the best access to certain areas of the complex that are also deeper down.

[small bobcat]

Ya some guys pitched the idea that it might become a forward base

And we are going ever deeper

[scenic wagon]

rimshot

[wary portal]

does KDS means kyro drop site ?

[graceful lotus]

it means kovak defensive systems

[dull orchid]

hope we are just 1 patch away from official released

so we can know more about the lores

[graceful lotus]

what

since when was 1.0 r6

[dim scroll]

he said "hope we are" , not "we are"

[gilded vine]

never

Theres a possibility

[graceful lotus]

ah

nevermind my bad I scanned it too quickly

[dim scroll]

I don't think R6 will be the last rundown before the official release (not because of lore, but because of too many things to fix)

[graceful lotus]

yeah

I'm guessing r8 or r9

[dim scroll]

i'd say R10 tbh

[graceful lotus]

yeah

until the extras section on the roadmap is done I doubt we'll be seeing a new rundown

[wary portal]

id say even r11

[graceful lotus]

Matchmaking: Menus Matchmaking: Kick / Ban Matchmaking: Server Migration Matchmaking: Matchmake with groups Player character customization Expedition rewards Gear progression Progression linked expeditions Menu localization Steam achievements Gamepad support Updated weapon animations Updated player melee animations

yeah quite a bit to go through

assuming we get 3 rundowns a year honestly it may not be that long

[dim scroll]

And all of this is without the bugfixing / balancing

[graceful lotus]

that too