gtfo-lore

[eternal talon]

he's got quite a... complex blend

[regal olive]

I am going insane due to namv infection

Santonian industries sued me and then i gambled away all my belongings so i could get enough money to pay for the legal fees

Now I'm in a virus camp

And some guy in a hazmat suit is giving me some wild side eye

[eternal talon]

yo, i heard if you sign up for something called the "legion program", they'll cover your expenses for the rest of your life.

[regal olive]

They were talking about dogs

Frostty

Should i litter

[eternal talon]

leave no trace.

[regal olive]

I left a trace

Do you reckon there was 1 immune guy to namv

With 8 billion someone's gonna get lucky eventually

Somehow

[eternal talon]

no, simply because it will mutate itself to counter whoever it infects. it has an uncountable number of strains

[ionic dune]

You call that luck?

[regal olive]

What if you're immune to every strain through luck

There's a finite amount of strains

[eternal talon]

if it were possible, i think the collectors wouldn't have died out (to our knowledge)

[regal olive]

They just didn't play slots enough

[regal olive]

No but like

It would be better than just dying

[ionic dune]

I personally wouldn’t enjoy a world without people

[regal olive]

I would

Problem is I'd be starving constantly

[ionic dune]

Yea

[eternal talon]

I agree with splash. on both counts.

[ionic dune]

You enjoy starving?

[regal olive]

Sometimes

Depends on the temperature

[ionic dune]

Yall need to eat good food

[eternal talon]

idk about you, but you can make good food, it just takes time.

at the end of the world, all you have is time.

you just need a buffer.

[regal olive]

I'm good with shitass food

But i can't cook

My standards for food are very low

[ionic dune]

Ingredients

[regal olive]

If it has salt and it won't give me food poisoning or severe diarrhea it's great food

[ionic dune]

I can’t farm

[eternal talon]

learn to live like Gabbro.

[ionic dune]

And I can’t hunt

[regal olive]

Nothing to hunt anyway

[ionic dune]

True

[regal olive]

I mean

[ionic dune]

And I’m not gonna live off canned food with no human contact

[regal olive]

What happens after you die from namv

So you rot?

[ionic dune]

Yep

[eternal talon]

is this a religious question?

[regal olive]

Or does namv also kill and the bacteria

[ionic dune]

If only namv

[regal olive]

Physically what happens to your body

[eternal talon]

depends if nam-v also kills the fungi n' stuff, which are plants, so probably would be okay

because destination still has plants

[regal olive]

Like in Chernobyl

Where things don't rot

Because the radiation kills all the microbes

So dead stuff just stays

Trees and leaves and stuff

[eternal talon]

nam-v only kills animals.

plants are okay.

[regal olive]

What about Bacteria

[eternal talon]

you'd have to ask the collectors for that one. I don't have a microscope on hand.

or, i'm sure the Labs tileset has a couple

if you are feeling 'venturous

[regal olive]

I'm no venturer

[eternal talon]

AU scenario: the collector ship crashes in a fantasy world and a clan of mountain dwarves find it.

[regal olive]

It amazes me that the complex allowed namv to escape

The thing was 2 kilometres down

How do you fuck up quarantine that bad

[eternal talon]

we know exactly how

splash.

[regal olive]

Vacation on the surface yes

But didn't they ever stop to think at all

"huh everyone's sick and dying"

[eternal talon]

they quarantined the first chamber they found. two scientists ignored quarantine and later showed flu-like symptoms, but otherwise, nam-v was mainly asymptomatic.

most of the worldplace ends up sick

[regal olive]

thank you 2 scientists

[eternal talon]

people didn't start dying until after people were already going to the surface

it was a good while

once it got past that initial quarantine zone, with the two scientists, it was over.

god this game's story reminds me of The Thing so much (probably why i love it)

[regal olive]

Interesting and at the same time not

Because it's just gonna be a repeat of last time

[regal olive]

Why

[eternal talon]

counterpoint: mayans.

[regal olive]

I don't consider this canon

[eternal talon]

lmao

[regal olive]

I don't care that it is

It makes no sense and I'm ignoring it

[eternal talon]

... seriously just go watch The Thing 2011 then The Thing 1982.

nothing i say here could do it justice.

[regal olive]

I know the plot roughly

[eternal talon]

the thing 1982 alone is one of the best horror movies ever made

ever

[regal olive]

Okay

[eternal talon]

if Outer Wilds is my only 11/10 game, The Thing 1982 is my only 11/10 movie.

i'm usually a harsh critic

[regal olive]

I'm the opposite with movies

I have low standards

Except games

[eternal talon]

The Thing 2011 is like a 4/10 or 5/10, but that isn't the movie's fault--it's the producer's interference by changing the ending, covering up practical effects with (literally) last second CGI, and cutting 30 minutes of runtime.

[regal olive]

ouchies

[eternal talon]

if it got the release it deserved, i'd probably give it an 8/10 at worst.

probably a 9/10.

[regal olive]

I'll boot up mt vpn

[eternal talon]

i can't emphasize enough how much it got fucked.

i'll DM you.

[regal olive]

Do so

[thin surge]

Back on the 2011 Thing rant lmao

[eternal talon]

Don't judge me.
The Thing (1982) is my favorite movie.

And besides, this game gives of seriously similar vibes.

At least in regards to the ship and whatnot, I mean.

Something you can't let get out ever, that wiped out the crew of an alien spacecraft that crash landed millions of years ago, that who'se aliens were collecting species from different worlds to catalogue them...

Whose technology far surpassed our own...

I could go on

[vagrant forum]

whats the lore behind r6d4

do we know why we go through 4 cycles of the same place

[ionic dune]

I always believed that the datacubes took us through different dimensions, resulting in the different enemies but same layout

[thin surge]

Not fully explained but it could be similar to 8B1 where the locations are tethered or similar enough that jumping dimension to a similar one is easier than one thats very different. (Also could be explained that because this mission (likely) caused the R8 spaghetti, that these dimensions were collapsing in on eachother)

There's no direct answer though besides game devs thought it'd be cool

[regal olive]

By the way

[raw terrace]

remined the probable cause of the security is cuz garganta is on lockdown, cuz u know, rrapture

[regal olive]

In r8

The meltdown doesn't do poopoo dookie right

It's just the complex wide alarm that wakes every single monster that's the problem

Not the reactor but the alarm

Which is why in the last level we keep doing bypasses for it

We're not delaying the meltdown just the alarm

Am i right?

Idk what a reactor meltdown would even really do

Apart from cut power

[raw terrace]

the meltdown will destroy the complex

we only use commands to block off enemies in e2, the meltdown is IN progress

so w just have to gtfo

but for example by just lowering the rrods in b4, lights go out and ventilation seems to shit itself, and theres some warden wanings of radioactive material i belive?

would need to double check

the reason it probs seems less destructive that it can be is sane schaefferr stopping it for a bit? since hes workin to fix it

[regal olive]

How

It's a meltdown not a bomb

[raw terrace]

ook maybe not explode but kill things

[regal olive]

It can't destroy anything

[raw terrace]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_meltdown

[regal olive]

Still

It can't

[raw terrace]

seemingly, lots of radioactiivity

[regal olive]

We're below the ground

Under a fuckton of rock

All the radiation will get blocked by the cavity the meltdown material creates

A meltdown just means some really hot nuclear powered metals start melting through stuff

But we're 800m below ground

Surrounded by rock

What is hot metal gonna do

It can't destroy anything

[raw terrace]

i mean fuck if u know ur reactors i dont so

[regal olive]

it's not like

I'm not an expert

Chernobyl and other reactor meltdowns are bad because they happen above ground

They can go into groundwater or stuff

But in the complex what is there for it to destroy

Maybe it could deal some structural damage or something

Frostty pls enlighten

https://tenor.com/view/save-me-santa-santa-donald-trump-pray-praying-gif-3018954249654364100

[raw terrace]

"A second, more powerful explosion occurred about two or three seconds after the first; this explosion dispersed the damaged core and effectively terminated the nuclear chain reaction. The explosion is estimated to have had the power equivalent of 225 tons of TNT" so it does explode kinda? not hugely but depending on positioning i guess it could cause more side effects
im not surre how radioation works either, my assunption was as the complex is all weebed together maybe it went through and started "infecting" zones

[regal olive]

What's that quote from?

[raw terrace]

plus garganta has like, unreasonable amounts of reactors and some of them could get damaged alongside the first? tho im not sure how

[raw terrace]

thee wikipedia page of chernobyl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster

[regal olive]

o

[raw terrace]

seems like gtfo was based heavily on this ngl

i see a lot of mentioons of terminology present in gtfo

[regal olive]

Maybe the radiation would go everywhere and kill us and that was the problem

[raw terrace]

cooling tanks, fuel rods, meltdown, rreactor containment vessel...

[regal olive]

uhuh

idk enough about it

I feel like in the complex you could get far enough away that it becomes a non factor

It's a big place

[raw terrace]

yeah- as e2 also starts like exploding out of nowhere [tho could be oother issues we dont know] maybe it did damaged something near it and a chain reaction started, but again we know dont wherre the coorre off the reactor even is

[raw terrace]

yeah but i guess it also compromised like every warden plan

or maybe crazy schaeffer was unsure of the reach and simply went thrrough it thinkin it woulld do somethin, and the wrdn just went through its plans quicker as it interfered

[regal olive]

I think this was just a flawed plan from scheaffer

Not much else you could do to destroy everything

But it ended up pissing off the whole quadrant (or complex!) due to the evacuation alarm

So he did get what he wanted after all

Sleepers have now become the awoken

No more peaceful slumber

Perpetual torment for every remaining monster

They can't die and they can't sleep

They're just stuck listening to the alarm until the other reactors run out of power

[autumn seal]

Schaeffer? The most sane man on the planet? With a flawed plan?? noooo can't be

[regal olive]

Never

[regal olive]

Where's frostty when needed

To answer us about nuclear meltdowns

[raven nest]

what does the achievement for finding schaffers bucket reference/mean?

[regal olive]

He pooped in it

It's a poop bucket

That's about it

[honest summit]

John is a Slang name for toilet

[thin surge]

We just override controls to block the nightmare surge. The meltdown would release a ridiculous amount of radiation as well as being potentially unstable enough to create further destruction.

Mixing this with additional reactors that could be effected leaves it a pretty sure death sentence for anything living down there less it can survive the radiation.

As @raw terrace was talking about as well, reactor damage can lead to additional damage other than the meltdown itself, in the case of Chernobyl for example the release of energy from improper use of control rods caused an explosion.

I agree with you that its a flawed plan from OG Schaeffer, but with his (somewhat self inflicted) lack of knowledge on anything, causing a meltdown would succeed in killing pretty much everything left down in Garganta.

Mix this in with the at least 5 universes collapsing in on eachother and it pushed the ALT team / Wrdn's plan to move much quicker and be way more flawed then it potentially could have been given more time.

[autumn seal]

oh yeah does anyone here know what's behind the locked door in eval? couldnt find anything online

[next panther]

Tank surge

[thin surge]

@next panther 's WR Lunch Lady run

[autumn seal]

what does that mean lmao

[honest summit]

literally

[autumn seal]

i mean i assume thats what the door triggers if you force it, but what's behind it? empty room?

[honest summit]

3 hallways

that lead into a dead end

the only spot you can find glowsticks in T

[autumn seal]

what the hell is the point lmao

[honest summit]

build up for R8A2

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/arcturus-mengsk-менгск-арктур-менгск-менгск-крутится-spin-gif-17848164768255888977

[honest summit]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-professor-x-illuminati-illuminati-dr-strange-professor-xavier-gif-26021429

[eternal talon]

^ @regal olive

[regal olive]

yeah i know

and that's my point

it cant go boom boom hard enough to kill the complex

[eternal talon]

then @raw terrace

[raw terrace]

slendo

[ionic dune]

Slendo

[eternal talon]

read what i linked to splash.

[raw terrace]

thank chu

[regal olive]

so is the consensus that the meltdown didn't do anything except a masize alarm

[eternal talon]

In the context of those "... you live for one year in your favorite video game/movie etc" GTFO is probably one of the worst

Just before actually having to do anything, just becoming a KSO is pretty much life destroying

And if you don't become a KSO, you are dead.

It's a really shitty experience regardless of where you get stuck.

[honest summit]

"One year in GTFO"
spends the entire year sleeping in an HSU

[regal olive]

Depends on when

I would happily live in gtfo before the complex was built

[regal olive]

That too

You could just get left in a coma until power runs out

Wake up in 200 years and die because you forgot how to breathe

[autumn seal]

I dont think it's physically possible to forget how to breathe

[regal olive]

I mean

Who knows

Maybe it's possible

[muted mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/breathe-boppity-bippity-wizard-breathing-gif-12311641005681234042

[raw terrace]

jookes oon u iim sick it already was

[regal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/mingo-forget-everything-you-know-gif-11904218387995282851

[muted mulch]

who am i what is this "discord Server"

[vagrant forum]

this is the discord server for the hit game gtfo from the 10 chambers collective.

[muted mulch]

wow all my memories have been unlocked i now know everything that i knew thanks

[next panther]

Bro saw the king in yellow

[vagrant forum]

new speedrun strat?

[next panther]

WAIT so true

[muted mulch]

the king in green

[solid swan]

Okay this is new

Voice of truth?

Is this Schaeffers team?

[raw terrace]

no

whisthleblower from before the rapture

[honest summit]

Mr truth spilling the beans on the Virus outbreak

[next panther]

Outlast reference

[royal crow]

Bro doesn't know about Mr Truth

The goat

[regal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-meme-the-rock-meme-explaining-explaining-meme-fast-explaining-gif-6790317372874152095

Mr. Truth explaining to Mrs. Truth why they need a bunker in the desert, form sealing masks, an offroad truck and multiple months worth of non perishable supplies

(he's right)

I like that mr truth was right

The broken clock was right

It's very funny

And wholesome

Finally the conspiracy theories and general distrust actually paid off meaningfully

[royal crow]

Mr Truth being one of the last survivors on the planet :

Seriously

Probably my favorite side plot in GTFO

[thin surge]

Radio show hosted by Mr. Truth that whistle-blows a tone of stuff Dreyfus and SMC are doing as well as having some of the first outside knowledge of NAM-V spreading

[eternal talon]

Lmao

[raw terrace]

ii mean he started before the rapture

he lived through th rapture

died within the rapture

and raptured raptured his rapture

[eternal talon]

Just calling the might-as-well-be extinction of humanity from NAM-V as "the rapture" I find really funny

Did he ever actually call it a rapture in logs, or is that entirely you?

[eternal talon]

The Voice of Truth, Mr Truth, was a conspiracy theorist prepper from before the apocalypse. His logs, mostly audio, tell us a common man's perspective on the NAM-V Outbreak, how KOVAC Defense Services and Dreyfus Industries are perceived, and generally what information about garganta, if any, breaks through past KDS.

His gimmick is that he was a conspiracy theorist that was (pretty much) 100% correct.

[raw terrace]

:3

rapture

[regal olive]

Im over gere dying from namv, i got namv in my body right now, it's just killing my shit, I need an HSU man I'm infected man for real

I wonder if his wife actually got namv or if it just was

Paranoia

Or did he kill her for another reason

A dessert is probably the best bunker location against a pandemic

Nothing alive there and thr sun sterilises everywhere every day

[eternal talon]

Pro Tip: the best places for bunkers are anywhere that is 1: high elevation. 2: geologically stable. 3: relatively close to the coast but safe from erosion. Bonus points if geothermal power is available.

[regal olive]

i was disregarding supplies

that being said, soler pouneals

[eternal talon]

Reject sunlight. Embrace dwarfdom

[regal olive]

tell me more though i would love to get into the civil engineering of bunker

well geothermal also needs access to the outside right

[eternal talon]

Not necessarily. Geothermal power is simply using the natural heat of the earth to, like every other source of power, turn water into steam to spin a turbine.

[regal olive]

where do you vent the spent steam

outside

[eternal talon]

That natural source could be a hot spring that won't dissappear for tens of thousands of years, a super deep bore hole, etc

[eternal talon]

You dont have to.

[regal olive]

you absolutely have to

afaik

[eternal talon]

Those giant towers at nuclear powerplants are actually lattice like structures inside. The steam cools and condenses back into water then falls down to be recycled

It's all steam, no smoke.

[eternal talon]

Step 1: Determine number of intended occupants and length of stay duration.

Most every bunker has two entrances/exits. A primary entrance, and a secret/hidden escape tunnel that is usually obfuscated by the terrain itself.

In terms of oxygen, there are several different methods. You could convert captured rainwater from the surface and turn it into oxygen, or Alternatively you could have a hyper-filtered oxygen system.

Either way dampness and ventilation will be a problem. Dehumidifying will be a must.

Another thing to consider is maintenance of your exterior ports. Over time, dust and debris will clog them depending on how they are constructed, and that will require you leaving the safety of your shelter at regular intervals to clean them

Not to mention them being obvious weak points for anyone looking to drive you out

(The famous dump concrete into the rich person's ventilation)

The less of these ports and the more hidden they are, the better.

[regal olive]

what

[eternal talon]

But arguably making your bunker where nobody would find it in the first place would be best.

[regal olive]

no

i meant that for the steam turbine to work you necessarily must vent the steam into the outside

you need a low pressure environment for it to flow into to generate power

you're still not cut off from the surface for your power needs

[past vessel]

How much do we know about the Kovac Research branch (mentioned in ALT R5 logs)

[eternal talon]

Semantics. It is entirely possible to manufacture a low pressure environment underground.

[regal olive]

does the water just go back underground

[regal olive]

yes very famous

[eternal talon]

You can pump it out into the groundwater yeah, or you could have it come out as runoff down a steep slope.

It depends on location

Anyway, location is the biggest thing

All the defenses/safety in the world won't do you any good if people know where it is.

Persistence can outlast any defense

[regal olive]

i think after the end of the world getting concrete out to a bunker won't be very easy

i guess vehicles would work so you could drive it over there

but what's the point if you're gonna ruin the bunker

to get the supplies?

[eternal talon]

In terms of duration of stay, if you are bothering with a bunker, something like 8 months should be a minimum

[regal olive]

could a basement be subsituted for a bunker

have some solar panels on your roof

[eternal talon]

Basement, storm shelter, yes.

[regal olive]

i guess it's not hidden

and people will eventually loot it

[eternal talon]

Some people have buried shipping containers and used concrete forms around them to make bunkers

[regal olive]

smart

[eternal talon]

(Though the rust with that is... not good)

[eternal talon]

It's dumber that it sounds

[regal olive]

i scoff at thee

it's buried in concrete do we really care

or is the inside just exposed metal

[eternal talon]

Groundwater/moisture there can lead to cracks and lead to a compromised structure

[regal olive]

okay

what about

plastic shipping container

i saw jerryrig everything build a bunker

which was fun

i need more bubble wrap

[eternal talon]

To be simple,most milk toast basic bunker:

Extremely isolated location that (almost) nobody knows about. High elevation. Safe from natural erosion.

Chain link fence around the perimeter of your land plot with a fence gate. Remove any trees within the perimeter to maintain an unobstructed FOV and add cameras.

Have your primary bunker entrance, oxygen intake, and waste outputs slightly elevated above ground level and framed in concrete to avoid runoff and make maintenance easier. Have emergency exit covered with a false dirt patch above it, in one of the corners or near the corner of THE OUTSIDE OF your fenceline, making sure it is near-impossible to notice.

[regal olive]

why high elevation, no flooding?

why would you bother removing trees

it's more camoflage

hidden in plain sight

[eternal talon]

The idea is that from within your bunker you will be able to view your cameras on the surface.

Nowhere to hide within your walls/fences.

[regal olive]

seems like a hassle

and what are you gonna do anyway, go out with full kit and play vietnam with a bunch of raiders

[eternal talon]

Depends on the size of the property. Mountain logging is a thing that people have been doing for hundreds of years, and you are already spending half a mil at least on the bunker itself.

Getting equipment and materials to the middle of nowhere isn't cheap

[eternal talon]

No. Like I said before, if someone is intent on attacking you, you generally have no way to win out in the long run.

[regal olive]

so might as well stealthmaxx and leave the trees

[eternal talon]

If, watching them, they don't give up after a considerable amount of time, you'll likely need to either fight or flee

Defense maxxing doesn't work unless you are 100% self sufficient, which, in the context of bunkers, is like, near impossible

(I'm talking no surface access self-sufficient)

[regal olive]

yeah that isn't the point of bunkers thouh

it's to just get through the apocalypse

right

[eternal talon]

Correct.

The point of a bunker is to get you through a natural disaster, cataclysm, or other such scenario and to the other side.

You wouldn't have a bunker to live in full time. It's for the interum

To keep you and whoever else safe and away from any danger outside.

[regal olive]

i often wonder in these situations how you would prevent insanity

or just severe mental degradation

[eternal talon]

The idea is that after such time as shit has calmed down, you would use your bunker as a jumping off point to return to normal life

Whatever that normal may well now be

[eternal talon]

Generally, that vastly changes person to person

Some general advice would be to have at least one other person sheltering with you, have plenty of games, activities, materials for hobbies,

Just waiting would drive you insane, yeah

[regal olive]

im currently in the process of bunkerising my room against the cold

[eternal talon]

The ground is naturally insulating.

Dwarf-max.

[regal olive]

yeah

i always think about this

but it complicates construction a lot and is not good for your mental health

[eternal talon]

https://youtu.be/GKPuLFx6RYE?si=f6ONsGAp_sfNVWfi

But yeah, no bunker will ever really be cheap.

You can take simple readiness steps though

(Live in a house made of stone or brick and not wood)

Have water storage and have food storage.

Rain capture, learn how to can

[regal olive]

i am unable to can

i can't

[eternal talon]

Then start simple. Plan for a week without food or running water.

[regal olive]

easy

refridgerator water and starvation

and just sitting around

[eternal talon]

Get yourself a 2-pack of S.O.S. Emergency Food Rations (the coconut and cinnamon are my favorite), and get yourself a 7 gallon water Jug. I personally have a Reliance Aquatainer.

[regal olive]

oh wait i do have that

i forgot

i have a bug out bag

[eternal talon]

That'd cost you less than $50 USD and give you enough food and drink for a week

[eternal talon]

Know the difference between a bug OUT bag and a bug IN bag. The stuff you keep at home will always be better than whatever you can take with you. If at all possible, you'd want to prioritize sheltering in place at home.

A bug out bag is mainly for if you are being evacuated

And like a bunker, need something for the interum

Before returning home

[eternal talon]

But seriously, anyone reading should have ^this at a bare minimum

[regal olive]

it's mainly a random assortment of tools and equipment along with 3L of water and 4000 calories

👍

extremely well thought out

some of it actually expired and i have to replace it

i'm very good at prepping

[eternal talon]

The US coast guard uses S.O.S, so does FEMA, and I can personally attest to the quality of my Aquatainer

[vagrant forum]

why? for what situations?

[regal olive]

natural disaster

[eternal talon]

You can get an aquatainer at any Walmart store, and you can buy S.O.S. rations on amazon

[regal olive]

electrical grid failure

extreme weather events

[eternal talon]

Basically any emergency, yeah

[regal olive]

and the like

[eternal talon]

Literally the universal default

It's less than $50 usd. The bar is at the floor

Anyone in any household should have some kind of plan or procedure for an emergency or disaster

[vagrant forum]

suffer; die

[eternal talon]

I mean you WILL die without 3 days of water. So....

The alternative is when an emergency is declared, fill up all your sinks and bathtubs

But EVERYONE is gonna be doing that at the same time

[regal olive]

nah why prepare when you can just shoot fema workers on sight because as we all know the government creates all the tornadoes

[eternal talon]

dont be the covid toilet paper guy

[regal olive]

im gonna be the covia toiler paper guy

[eternal talon]

Given our discussion, I assume you at least have some emergency equipment, splash?

[regal olive]

define emergency equipment

i have blankets

and some water in a bag

along with 1.5 days of calories

[eternal talon]

Look into that stuff then.

You might find serious value in it.

As far as emergency rations go, I've tried several brands, they are all... not great, but S.O.S. was by far the best.

They'll last five years min

And if you treat an Aquatainer right, it'll last that, if not longer

[regal olive]

i just buy nuts and peanut butter and eat them 1 month before they expire

then replace them

[eternal talon]

That sounds... horrible

[regal olive]

why

they're delicious

[eternal talon]

just nuts and peanut butter? I'd rather have the poundcake/sugar-cookie esque-emergency rations.

It also sounds like a total mess. I'm assuming you mix it together and eat with a spoon?

[regal olive]

i love nuts

[eternal talon]

So do i

[regal olive]

yeah will a spoon on some tortillas

which also can last 6ish months or something iforgot

[eternal talon]

Tortillas, specifically wheat tortillas, are good, and they also pack well

[eternal talon]

Not really a good shelf life. That's a lot of money to replace them over time

[regal olive]

it isnt wasted

i eat them

that money would have been spent on food regardless

[eternal talon]

I guess

[regal olive]

the idea of my pack was 3 days

just get through 3 days of some disaster and then hope relief arrives

[eternal talon]

I guess I just personally would rather have food food and emergency rations stashed somewhere than feast on tortillas and peanut butter for a week every couple months

[regal olive]

yeah my standards for food quality are quite low

if it doesn't give me food poisoning then it's mostly fine

[eternal talon]

You know, CDC and such really do recomend one week as a minimum

[regal olive]

really?

[eternal talon]

Yeah

[regal olive]

i thought 3 days was a good numnber

alright

[eternal talon]

No, not.really

The 72 hour rule assumes no interruptions to emergency responses

Which... I'm sure you know how it's been over the last few years

[regal olive]

it's been okay

[eternal talon]

Hurricane Helene last year proved that response time has been pretty terrible

[regal olive]

i live in another continent so idk what you mean

aah

[eternal talon]

It was something like a month for the worst hit areas

[regal olive]

jfc

[eternal talon]

So, as an American, one week is the minimum that I'd even consider

Because my government would sooner let everyone die than spend a single dollar actually helping people

I wonder how rich Mr. Truth was to be able to afford all his stuff

with a 2050s economy

[regal olive]

maybe things were better

less people in 2050

maybe resources would be

a little more accessible

[regal olive]

I wonder if janson davies made it out

He has to have right

Every rich guy has a super bunker in new Zealand on standby and he was the richest

[west pebble]

today i've found out the server racks in r7d2 are made by CNTRL

[regal olive]

This server rack was sponsored by raid shadow legends

[past vessel]

Yep, they also make some generator boxes seen in some starting tiles, like R2C2, additionally responsible for the Terminals/Desktop interfaces in Labs, the Hack Locks, HearSay Terminals, Dataspheres

[regal olive]

isn't this just doable by default if you don't have to evacuate

i've been thinking about this

and also is impossible if you have to evacuate

because water is heavy and water sources might not exist

if you're stuck at home there is no way that your patry doesn't have a week's worth of stuff in it right

and if you're not at home then you're boned

i don't understand what the strategy is here

all anyone has to do to survive 1 week without external assistance is have a reasonably well stocked home with food and some spare water

you can't carry 10L of water with you in an emergency bag right

[eternal talon]

Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. Most Americans dont keep full pantries.

[eternal talon]

Oh god no. At most, 3L

Simply put, if you have to evacuate, usually you are going to family or to stay for some time at a cheap hotel.

Otherwise you should keep stuff to last a week at home if you need to shelter in place, without running water, without going to stores, etc

Be it a ton of canned goods, MREs, Emergency Rations, they are all for the same purpose.

What specifically someone has/needs changes person to person

Just that they have something

Nobody should really ever "bug out" to the woods, or something.

If possible, going home should be the main priority

If you have to leave your home, the stuff you are going to be able to take with you, even if you stuff your car, will be limited

Besides, that depends on how much time you have to leave in the first place

Which is the point of preparing beforehand

At home, you should have stuff to last months.

In a bag to leave, you only really need a few essentials and your documents.

[regal olive]

Food can't be that expensive

It's just rent being 2000 dollars

Like canned beans or peas

Water really bothers me because if it doesn't rain then you're just screwed

Not everyone has a conveniently placed stream next to them

[ionic dune]

i think you underestimate the poverty levels, but also having full pantries is kinda a cultural thing imo, most people i know only have ingredients (like flour, sugar etc) in their pantry and not like caned foods

[past vessel]

@eternal talon how does Schaeffer get a hold of the MWP in the OG timeline after the events of R7C2 to have it during R8D2?

Or is that the ALT’s MWP from R8A1 and ALT Schaeffer is the one who has it and wanted to bring it to KDS Deep actually

[raw terrace]

schaeffer alt has the mwp gooberr

we give it to him specifically

[past vessel]

So OG Team ends up using the ALT MWP and we have no idea what happened to the OG MWP

[raw terrace]

theee last time the mwp is seen is c2 yeah
idk maybs it was plugged to r7e1s platform and staid there lol

[past vessel]

We don't ever see or touch the MWP in R7E1

[eternal talon]

question: is it there anyway?

i know that zone opens up

it is possible to literally go see if the platform has one plugged in, right?

i mean realistically, i know how the objective datablock works, and unless it is a custom model, it wouldn't have one, but still

this should be easily disprovable

[past vessel]

yes its possible

theres no invisible wall or anything, its just that the immortal is there on the jump gate and normally people run

[eternal talon]

for science!

(runs into obvious danger/death)

[past vessel]

"Hang on Pablo I gotta check this real quick"

[eternal talon]

the dauda in me is asking if it is possible to remove the parasite, or at least disconnect it from the central nervous system and allow the host to gain control of their bodies again.

granted, they'd still be sleeperified

quite curious

dauda was just... the worst

completely unrelated: Do any of y'all ROCK AND STONE?

[raw terrace]

but platfform :O

jump platfformr

oh well i guss with freecam u can just check its not there

sm

[past vessel]

MWP is definitely not here

[raw terrace]

smh

[thin surge]

Occasionally

[raw terrace]

if only it was

wouldve been a cool detail

[eternal talon]

so new question:

why can pablo teleport?

[past vessel]

Here's the 3 stages of how it looks in R7C2

[raw terrace]

clonk

[past vessel]

the orange ring cylinders sink in fully in addition ot the MWP handle still being visible

[eternal talon]

orange ring cylinders?... you mean the data cubes?

lmao

[past vessel]

no, the 6 cylinders on the insert module evenly spaced on the jump gate

The data cubes just get inserted into the MWP on the back

[past vessel]

Translocational Tether instability, I doubt Pablo has the dexterity or intelligence to actually coordinate a Matter Wave Jump

[thin surge]

He has the intelligence to aggro on the most annoying person he can while running a casual 7E1 so I dont put it out of the question lol

[past vessel]

For us to get back to the complex we had to type stuff into the terminal which I highly doubt pablo can do

but would love to see

I need to see Pablo typing at a terminal like this now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585063132553281556/1205962700182659133/real_speach.gif

[solid swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139642378337140739/1436075762804461699/image.gif

[regal olive]

stone

[regal olive]

Multiple pablos

[copper pine]

Bc he thought it would be cool to do that

And 10 Chambers approved Pablos idea

[past vessel]

In the time it takes for prisoners to return from Alpha Two and perform the Reactor up until the final code hunt where the Jump Gate is visited, figure that canonically they move at a moderate pace so give or take 45 minutes, that's over 2 days to Pablo left in Alpha Two assuming Pablo didn't warp back immediately

[honest summit]

it is neither OG nor ALT. Alt took it from the nightmare dimension

[past vessel]

I know it warps us to Nightmare Dimension when touched, but

[honest summit]

my theory is that it is because of the MVP collapse. Why else would be there an operating table in gardens

[vagrant forum]

alt's mwp is from nightmare?

[past vessel]

HSU research, as seen in R7D1 Timed Sequence which has several of the operating tables and robotic arms seen in the same room, which we use to place the Neonate in an awakened state before leaving

Well, more like HSU Prep/Testing

[honest summit]

yes, but in R7D1 it was a complex dedicated to it. R8A1 has basically no equipment and is a completely isolated room

it may have been ripped from another garden, but it is still something what does not belong there

maybe touching for a moment briefly reconnects MWP projector back to its dimension, like the datacubes snatching Bishop in the Jungle expedition

[past vessel]

hmmm

[thin surge]

With the minimum of 5 dimensions collapsing in on each other in R8, it could likely be just another MWP from one of those dimensions. This would also line up with us not seeing the MWP after 7C2 till this point, as well as how it ended up in a completely different area of Garganta.

Using similar logic to @honest summit , if the MWP that we pick up in 8A1 is taking us to the original dimension it's from (IE data cubes Bishop touches or other artifacts touched that teleport people as Schaeffer witnessed).

This still doesn't explain the room that you're teleported to, but the look of the room with several dead bodies, more air particles, and a rougher look, lines up with the nightmare dimension segments in 8B1.

Either way It's likely the MWP from the ALT, Fog, Nightmare, or Unknown dimension(s) (unconfirmed number of extra dimensions collapsing in on each other)

[regal olive]

Can we go to other dimensions and steal things and bring them back

Like go to alternate dimensions rob some gold

Come back be rich

[regal olive]

Interdimensional Ponzi scheme

[next panther]

I would assume so

[regal olive]

It's free

[copper pine]

Kinda

You have to get a mwp

Not to mention a teleportation room

Datacubes

And you have to somehow return back

[honest summit]

"Get 4 other Versions of yourselves to sign the contract with your refferal to earn 0.60 Progress towards your next Booster"

[eternal talon]

This is just the aperture science perpetual testing initiative

[thin surge]

If SMC/Insight learned how to control the teleporting more thats something they'd likely have done.

[eternal talon]

shh! Sleepers... let them snooze

anybody wanna talk about anything?

[ionic dune]

What’s the lore reasons in R8B2 (specifically how you don’t need to do main if ur doing sec)

Or well idk if i phrased this properly

Dont remember what main objective said

[eternal talon]

not sure, but if I take R8A2 as a reference and the fact that some secondary/optional objectives bear lore significance that directly impact future levels, i'd say it's best to assume that "first try all optionals" is canon, so the main for that expedition wouldn't be.

[ionic dune]

Yea

Well R8C1 has free objective iirc with PE?

[eternal talon]

rephrase please?

[ionic dune]

So you don’t have to do main if you do overload in R8C1

That might also be like

An indication

[eternal talon]

then unless otherwise directly contradictory with other information, i'd assume that follows the same rule.

[ionic dune]

Yea

Cuz E2 is also same thing where you cant progress unless you’ve done sec

(Though i havent done past R8B2)

[eternal talon]

E2 is unique in that regard.

where it's technically impossible to do just main

[ionic dune]

Yea

Frostty are you an audiophile?

[eternal talon]

what

[ionic dune]

Nvm 😭

I want new headphones

Dont know which i wanna get

So i wanna ask an audiophile

[eternal talon]

i have a $160 pair of audio-technica headphones that i've had for years...

[ionic dune]

lmao

I had some that broke and then i used my bluetooth daily commute ones

[eternal talon]

bought them new in 2018.

[ionic dune]

And now i have some money for Black Friday

So i wanna snag at a sale

[eternal talon]

in rough shape, but the audio is still perfect

ATH M50X.

[ionic dune]

Hmmm ill keep it in mind

[vagrant forum]

is there an explination as to why sleepers with no eyes can tell where we are

[honest summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dispatch-sonar-moist-moist-critical-dispatch-game-gif-4924790834764497612

[eternal talon]

some of them DO have eyes

[vagrant forum]

yea but about the ones with no eyes

[honest summit]

All of them do

[vagrant forum]

strikers mainly

[honest summit]

Strikers have them on the sides

[vagrant forum]

[[Striker]]

[amber nimbus]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Striker

[vagrant forum]

are you sure?

[honest summit]

Give me a min

[honest summit]

they are just closed

[ionic dune]

Seepy

Let em sleep

Honk schimimimi

[solid swan]

Wtf

I can't even see what this is maybe a snatcher

[muted lark]

huh

never noticed that

[loud urchin]

charger

[untold edge]

He just went back to the game just to prove it damn

[vagrant forum]

charger

[regal olive]

They obviously work via echolocation and not eyeballs

They see you in pitch darkness

They click

They shout

[regal olive]

What is this dude

[summer mason]

Good question. I personally call him Jim Muller

Idk about others

[ionic dune]

@eternal talon i think what happened in R8A2 is that they only had one half of the password (secondary in R8B2) and that’s why they didn’t do sec in R8A2

(Following ALT timeline that is)

Actually wait i may be stupid considering its two diff teams

[past vessel]

Even if it were the same team R8B2 happens after R8A2

[ionic dune]

Oh yea

I’m giga stupid

Anyways

So both teams progress levels at same time?

[past vessel]

roughly, OG Team is a bit ahead of the ALT Team

[ionic dune]

so like OG team does one or two missions ALT team does one or two

[past vessel]

Like R8A1 and R8A2, as R8A1 starts OG is already like halfway through Main

[thin surge]

Because of this its more likely that its a glimpse into another universe that we, an outside observer, gets to see while the OG team does main

[thin surge]

Yes and no, they're nearly the same but due to some time travel shenanigans in 8B1, it's a little funky

[ionic dune]

wait do we hear the other team in R8D1?

[raw terrace]

yes, not in voice per se but same as c1, intercom

[ionic dune]

no like their bullets

i got the intercom part

entering zone 423 had like sentries being deployed and shots

[thin surge]

You can hear them in D1 when in the BBC/charger room.

During this we are likely hearing the 5,7, or 9 scan being completed by the OG team

[raw terrace]

or in its defect the first class IV

[past vessel]

@eternal talon @thin surge Is this a continuity error or did ALT Schaeffer also have plans for Maddox and Henrikson until being diverted in ALT R6D1?

[thin surge]

Its a list of all possible people that could help him and he just went down it after ot didn't work out.

Its likely he was making this list in the same log where hes talking about how the main 4 is the group that he can use to help him as well

[honest summit]

I assume they wrote it down before they have Met the skinwalker since the Log is in the Same Mission iirc, its only after that their Goals diverge. Alt Shaeffer Just didnt need the gunsmith nor the Hacker since He Had direct Access to the biocom

The Audio is Not time stamped, so cant say for Sure If its liveleak or an old recording

Also D1 He was just going schizo, in DX He was much more determined

[eternal talon]

here is a picture of the original board.

they uncrossed out maddox in one of the first few patches to r6ex.

but the placements stayed the same if i'm not mistaken.

given that board is different... i'm not sure, but it looks like it isn't an error.

if it was the same board copy pasted, i'd say it's an error for sure.

i don't have a pic post patch but before r6 was removed.

[regal olive]

Dx and ex?

What is that

[honest summit]

A Special move you can perform by consuming a Lot of artifacts

[eternal talon]

ex = extended.
OGr6 extended's levels were BX, CX, and DX.
for whatever reason, alt shifted each of the levels down one tier.

[next panther]

Prolly so there wasn’t 5 r6 d tiers

[eternal talon]

i don't think they were changed in any way regarding difficulty.

so it'd be, at best, still a pseudo-d tier expedition

[next panther]

Yeah I meant they don’t want visually 5 d tiers

[honest summit]

If you think about it, what if we are the collectors

we are collecting the artifacts that seem to contain something. perhapts even the parasite itself

that would also explain the different mutations of sleepers, mute being the normal small enemies, bold being the giants, and agressive perhaps responsible for the boss enemies

that could also explain how the parasites can survive so long without a host, since it is not surviving but being contained like a fossil

[eternal talon]

What

[vagrant forum]

this is what happens when you crush an artifact and smoke it

[ionic dune]

we hear both schaeffers in R8B3 right?

[royal crow]

Maybe

[thin surge]

Yes, after the error alarm canceling door

[ionic dune]

Ye

[regal olive]

Oh cmon

Can you guys stop removing these people that are giving away free money

So greedy

[copper pine]

yeah they dont want for homeless to get rich

[vagrant forum]

is there any religion in the lore?

[thin surge]

Nothing new. References to both Mayan beliefs and Christianity appear but nothing outside of mentions occasionally by a few characters.

[ruby meadow]

All praise the Warden.

[raw terrace]

woods canonically has the mandate of heaven

[vagrant forum]

actually?

[past vessel]

[[Woods]]

[amber nimbus]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Woods

[thin surge]

kind of, he has a twisted view of Catholicism where he is the one that is being tasked with "stopping corruption" and "controlling the chaos". This is his reasoning for killing the marines before he was taken by KDS and plays into his brainwashing and KSO learning process.

[raw terrace]

he literally does he predicted the future

twice

one per dimension

and god legit just be protecting him

[regal olive]

Typical god activities

Picks the mass murderer out of everyone

[solid swan]

Based woods

[thin surge]

@past vessel , did you add the missing Schaeffer dialog from R8?

[past vessel]

I have not yet

[regal olive]

What do you think our prisoners carry in these packs of ours that we constantly carry around with us everywhere

[ionic dune]

ammo, bandages, cool aid, green goop that defo isnt c*m

[regal olive]

Why do we have sleeping pads though

[ionic dune]

in case we get eepy

[regal olive]

Do some expeditions have you sleeping outside of hsu

Are they that long

[ionic dune]

well yes

depends how you see it

[regal olive]

You reckon expeditions are canonically actually like hours to days long and it's just an in game thing that we go fast

Like an expedition involves breaks and snoozing

In some closet to the sounds on scouts

[ionic dune]

well i dont think theyd run for 10 mins straight with that gear

[ionic dune]

love me some scouts

[regal olive]

Sure but even if you crouch stealth a level i don't think it'll be 12 hours

Aka long enough to warrant sleeping gear

[ionic dune]

well

techincally

there are missions that are 12+ hours

or can be*

with like

regular pub gameplay

[regal olive]

If you sit in spawn for 10 hours i guess

Lmao

[ionic dune]

but i do think they speed stuff up so we dont HAVE to sleep during expeditions

[regal olive]

Imagine having to actually go to sleep in the complex

[ionic dune]

dimension time goes quicker than earth time

[regal olive]

Okay but we don't experience that

[ionic dune]

sleeping next to mommy big chickens in R2B2 @midnight creek join me

[regal olive]

No

Don't

[ionic dune]

we could

[regal olive]

Wtf did i just read

[ionic dune]

😭

[regal olive]

"mommy big chickens"

[ionic dune]

im goimg to bed

[regal olive]

Good

[ionic dune]

(next to mommy big chickens)

[copper pine]

https://tenor.com/view/kfc-fried-chicken-kentucky-fried-chicken-fast-food-gif-10092912821729971895

[regal olive]

Now I'm hungrier than i was before

And angrier

[sly sinew]

hey whats the lore on why the warden specifically chooses us 4 dauda/hackett/bishop/us
are we just that goated with the sauce

[blissful kraken]

I think there are other kso groups going around as well but the game just follows us

[past vessel]

there are approximately 50 at least several hundred KSOs still active before R5E1 iirc

we are 4 of them

[sly sinew]

ah ok

[royal crow]

we are the perfect team

thats the lore reason

we ARE the team

[past vessel]

and yes woods and team are considered the canonical A-Team (that still exists by 2063)

[royal crow]

not only in this worldline but in millions of them

[past vessel]

other KSO groups aren't nearly as proficient in getting tasks done

relegated mostly to maintenance work or lower tier missions

[sly sinew]

we just built different

[past vessel]

All sectors first try except R8B2 Main, R8A2 Sec, debate on R8B4 Sec, everybody always successfully extracts alive

[honest summit]

We are expired, thats why we are first on the line

Warden also Has the File on every KSO, so probably Chose them to be in the Team to diversify skills

Woods Hackett gunmen, Dauda Bishop techies

[thin surge]

The 4 main characters are able to complete and be successful in missions far more than other KSO groups, as well as containing the mix of assignments and KSO types that KDS was looking to construct.

This is further emphasized in a Schaeffer audio log where he talks about the team being highly successful and having a diverse set of skills.

Overall its that the main 4 are built different, and are exceedingly good at their KSO/WRDN assignments.

There are more groups active (at least in 1 timeline) at the same time as us, but the main 4 are the most effective team to get things done

[warped bloom]

because those 4 are the only characters we can play in the game

[past vessel]

We play as a different unnamed prisoner during Tutorial

[eternal talon]

???

32,000 minus 24,000 = 50 i guess

even assuming damn-near everbody died, you'd have a couple hundred, at least

[past vessel]

thank you for the correction

was not mentioned in the pins

[thin surge]

While it doesnt likely line up with timeline, it'd be funny if tutorial prisoner was Schaeffer or Henrikson

[severe fulcrum]

the tutorial character is the player when garganta is built irl and we're kidnapped there

[eternal talon]

actually... do we know their KSO designations?

[thin surge]

We know Klaus and Schaeffer but idk about the tutorial one

[eternal talon]

the EVAL character is a tau

[thin surge]

Oh true!

Didn't think of that

[eternal talon]

that's why we know he's different.

dauda is the only playable tau of the quad, and he's black

eval guy is white

[raw terrace]

white boi D:

[eternal talon]

if we know henrikssen and schaeffer's tags, we can rule them out

(if they aren't tau)

[thin surge]

Id have to look at my sheet when I get home from work but I believe one of them is

Schaeffer I know is listed in the WRDN log where he is searching for him, right after his squad died

I dont remember off the top of my head where Henriksons is listed

[eternal talon]

i don't see it on the ID

also: anybody try to scan that QR code?

[cunning light]

"enhance"

[thin surge]

Its $5 Kohls Cash

[eternal talon]

these are old pictures. it's the best i got

[honest summit]

ive tried. but the apps and sites for qr codes dont pick it up for me

[eternal talon]

Now that's a damn-good resolution

@dull crest , was the above QR code meant to actually be real/lead to something, or was it just fluff?

[honest summit]

also those qr codes have 4 position pattern squares, sadly its inherently wrong

maybe decoding it manually may yield resaults

[eternal talon]

You can do that?

[honest summit]

its not impossible. just takes a lot of time

i can give it a crack, but you prolly wont hear from me for a long time

[honest summit]

it has some half pixel wide squares. What tf do you even read it as. 0.5?

lowkey it looks like it got cut apart, maybe cutting it into pieces would solve it somehow

[thin surge]

or, hear me out, its random and has no connection to anything. (Or it's rick roll which would be 10x better)

[dull crest]

Never seen that one so I don’t think so

[regal olive]

unreal

What do mean this QR doesn't lead to another unsolvable ARG that'll forever stay a mystery

We need more logs that don't meaningfully expand the lore

[eternal talon]

that's what i'd hoped.

[eternal talon]

we still have that one audio log.

[regal olive]

We will forever have it

It's not gonna be anything useful

[ionic dune]

does the "pure will" achievement have any lore reason?

[thin surge]

Nothing listed lore wise, kinda just an annoying add on to make a boring level slightly more intresting

[ionic dune]

aight

[past vessel]

Do note that achievement includes everybody

[ionic dune]

ik ik

[past vessel]

And it fails if someone just uses disinf station even if not infected

[ionic dune]

ik

[thin surge]

does he know

[ionic dune]

yes i do

[regal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-he-knows-the-riddler-riddler-paul-dano-gif-27011163

[regal olive]

lorr

[raw terrace]

lorr

[thin gazelle]

lorr

[copper pine]

lor

[eternal talon]

lore is good.

[thin surge]

Lore is love, lore is life

[craggy widget]

😐

[eternal talon]

What

[coral gorge]

No lore?

[eternal talon]

its a ghost!

[coral gorge]

= )
M a y b e

[copper pine]

Grimm from hollow knight in gtfo?

Thats gonna be a banger mod idea

[coral gorge]

Lol
„Mission stack updated: Kill a god”

[regal olive]

Light work

We've killed multiple krakens

[copper pine]

4 scattergun shots and grim is dead

[coral gorge]

Hmmm
Yeah, probably

[eternal talon]

Nam-v pretty much solos any challenge when it comes to "gtfo vs x"

[coral gorge]

hm
yeah provided something is biological in any meaningful way, it will die

[eternal talon]

Now I'm wondering viral v viral like necromorphs or the flood

[coral gorge]

we had this discussion a long time ago, I think

i don't remember who really won
but i think we assumed nam-v would eventually win by simply killing everything else

[thin surge]

A necromorph getting Nam-V mutation would go hard

[eternal talon]

aren't necromorphs technically already completely dead tissue?

also it'd be parasitidae garganta mutating them--finishing the mutations, at least

[thin surge]

New enemy idea now lol

[regal olive]

Lor

[solid swan]

E

[regal olive]

2

[solid swan]

Gtfo 2

[coral gorge]

everyone keeps talking about GTFO 2
but what about GTFO 3?

[solid swan]

Where is GTFO pvp dlc

Seamless coop in gtfo

[coral gorge]

if you are determined enough, you don't need a dlc for it
(yes, I am speaking from experience)

[coral gorge]

gtfo, now with twice more co-op

[solid swan]

Raid someone's R8E2 run and have a 1v1 for who gets the clear

[coral gorge]

lore accurate R8E1/2 if the door to KDS wasn't closed

[solid swan]

Based update

They should make

R9 a dlc

Surely

[coral gorge]

finally we will get the scheaffer boss fight we always wanted

[coral gorge]

rundown 9 is just a bunch of prisoners doing some chernobyl level shit going into the irradiated complex

[solid swan]

There should be a mission in R9 where you fight the immortal again and find a way to kill him

R9E3

[coral gorge]

we just throw him down one of the elevator shafts to the core of the earth

[solid swan]

We melt him inside a reactor

[ionic dune]

He can survive a nuke

Well several

[coral gorge]

tbh
that's smth I wish we had seen ingame
like an actual visual of a melting reactor
(even though knowing 10cc it would most likely reduce fps to 2, it would still be cool)

[coral gorge]

then we use more nukes

it's got to work eventually

[ionic dune]

Frostty is gonna have fun reading this

[coral gorge]

listen, this may not be lore in the conventional sense
but this game never had conventional lore

[ionic dune]

Surely bashing your head against a brick wall will turn it to gold one day

[coral gorge]

Exactly!
worst case scenario you will get enough head trauma to think it had turned to gold

[ionic dune]

Well you’d prolly die before permanently thinking that

[coral gorge]

hmmm
well....
you just gotta not have a skill issue and not die
surely it's possible

this should become the main concern of this channel now, is it possible to sustain enough head trauma while bashing your skull against the wall so as to start hallucinating before passing out/dying

[honest summit]

Imagine in B4 instead of Just a scan, you Had a Window where you can See the rods being lowered and going supercritical

[coral gorge]

Yeah, that would be very cool
Or like, if not a window then a big screen with camera footage
Anything really

[honest summit]

We do already have a Glas panelled Floor with fuel rods under it, there is so much that Could have been done here

In the Wall literally behind the Terminal aswell

[royal crow]

Holy moly is that a Cubix I see

[coral gorge]

hello Alex
I see you are still running the A2 password lol

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[coral gorge]

hm
Yeah now I do
What a cool password, I sure hope it works

[cunning light]

Technically, it should work at some point, right ? Unless some people with a better knowledge of the algorithm behind it already have the answer...

[past vessel]

I checked ahead 30 years, does not show up, only partial matches of a few chars in 2028 and 2030

[next panther]

Its would be a 1/(36^10) chance right?

Which is like a lot

Or a 1 in 3656158400000000 chance about

So we only have to wait about 10000000000000 years

Or 10 trillion years

[autumn seal]

searching the next 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 passwords (or until I go to sleep, which will probably come first)

chat its not looking promising

[cunning light]

We better start training AI to keep playing GTFO after Earth collapses

[autumn seal]

Reached maximum representable date at 13572257 weeks

chrono overflows at ~260,000 years

we aren't getting L16M4-BA1L5 in the forseeable future 😔

well, i tried my best

[raw terrace]

how about slendi :3

[coral gorge]

finally, the perfect use for ai
The first ever GTFO 4 bot mission

[coral gorge]

i mean, it’s shorter so it should have a higher chance of actually appearing, no?
Or atleast, something similiar to the word appearing

[ionic dune]

surely theres a MOTH or M0TH in there somewhere 🙏

[autumn seal]

searched for ["SLENDI", "SLEND1", "SL3NDI", "SL3ND1"], no hits

password in like 2 weeks is foxie though, which is neat

[raw terrace]

:[

[autumn seal]

lemme check, each of these searches take like 3 minutes if they max out lol

[ionic dune]

thought it would be longer ngl

[autumn seal]

wrote it in rust, rust fast

[ionic dune]

is it due to memory or?

^the overflow that is

[ionic dune]

only coded in python (and marlin but its essentially python)

[autumn seal]

well I didn't write chrono so I dunno, but it's the max date that crate allows

[autumn seal]

Found: RWPGR-EMOTH on 4694-10-29 (matched 'MOTH')

[ionic dune]

EMOTH 🔥

[autumn seal]

its like egirl but moth

[ionic dune]

frfr

[coral gorge]

well then, while we are doing this
Does „cube” appear somewhere?

[ionic dune]

surely CUBE3 appears

or CUBEE3

[autumn seal]

i'll check in a moment, stopping the time to see how long it actually takes to match out rn cause i was curious

[ionic dune]

everyone lets use shirus pc like a supercomputer 🔥

[coral gorge]

Maybe the warden was shiru all along?

[autumn seal]

we finding the dow release date with this one

[autumn seal]

my estimation was fairly close, bit over 2 minutes

[autumn seal]

Found: CUBE8-GERJB on [phone] (matched 'CUBE')

[coral gorge]

Lets go

truly, 10cc is so great for including easter eggs about players in the code

Lol

[autumn seal]

so true

[ionic dune]

frfr

[autumn seal]

all this time and i havent checked if SHIRU is in there

[ionic dune]

i wouldve thought you did it first lmao

[autumn seal]

i am a man of the people

[ionic dune]

🔥

we getting trump out of the office iwth this one

[autumn seal]

we're so back
Found: SH1RU-K6JIY on [phone] (matched 'SH1RU')

[coral gorge]

the best promise to the voters - we will check if your discord names are in GTFOs code

[autumn seal]

no hits for an I instead of 1 though

[coral gorge]

still solid tho

[ionic dune]

wonder if its coded so there has to be numbers (and letters) on each side

[autumn seal]

the one from 29/12 to 01/01 is RB0HT-FOXIE so no

[ionic dune]

interestin

[autumn seal]

also the way the algorithm works is mostly a bunch of bitshifts and additions/multiplications that deliberately overflow, can't really have a condition like "there has to be a number on one side" in there

[ionic dune]

huh fair enough

[next panther]

Well by chance it’ll take 10 trillion years lol

[autumn seal]

no longer casting to actual timestamps and made it way faster, surely I find it now

(this is so stupid)

[ionic dune]

YES it is 😭

[vagrant forum]

when will this be a compute shader

[autumn seal]

well, I don't know shading languages and I don't intend to learn one for this lol

[ionic dune]

Lowkey @autumn seal could you send the algo of the code generation? Wanna see what i can cook up

[autumn seal]

const ALPHABET: &[u8] = b"ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890";
const PASSWORD_LENGTH: usize = 10;
const INITIAL_SEED: u32 = 98712495;

fn generate_password(year: i32, week: i32) -> String {
    let seed = hash_2(INITIAL_SEED, year, week);

    let mut password = String::with_capacity(11);

    for i in 0..PASSWORD_LENGTH {
        if i == 5 {
            password.push('-');
        }

        let char_index = hash_1(seed, i as i32);
        let idx = (char_index as i32).unsigned_abs() as usize % ALPHABET.len();
        password.push(ALPHABET[idx] as char);
    }

    password
}

#[inline]
fn hash_1(seed: u32, x: i32) -> u32 {
    let mut result = seed
        .wrapping_add(374761397)
        .wrapping_add((x.wrapping_mul(-1028477379)) as u32);

    result = (result >> 15 | result.wrapping_mul(131072)).wrapping_mul(668265263);
    result = (result >> 15 ^ result).wrapping_mul(2246822519);
    result = (result >> 13 ^ result).wrapping_mul(3266489917);
    result >> 16 ^ result
}

#[inline]
fn hash_2(seed: u32, x: i32, y: i32) -> u32 {
    let mut result = seed
        .wrapping_add(374761401)
        .wrapping_add((x.wrapping_mul(-1028477379)) as u32);

    result = (result >> 15 | result.wrapping_mul(131072))
        .wrapping_mul(668265263)
        .wrapping_add((y.wrapping_mul(-1028477379)) as u32);

    result = (result >> 15 | result.wrapping_mul(131072)).wrapping_mul(668265263);
    result = (result >> 15 ^ result).wrapping_mul(2246822519);
    result = (result >> 13 ^ result).wrapping_mul(3266489917);
    result >> 16 ^ result
}

[ionic dune]

Tyty

[autumn seal]

the algo itself is mostly taken from that one website, just rewrote it from js to rust

[ionic dune]

Fair fair

[autumn seal]

also it was taking too long so it's parallelised to 12 threads with rayon now

lets see if that helps

well I'm definitely utilizing most of my CPU now