We now know that yes
#gtfo-lore
raw terrace
isnt GLPS for hunger suppresion too
vernal veldt
what's the difference of chaos between r8e1 and e2
regal olive
We knew when it talked to alt john
vernal veldt
like how worse does it get
regal olive
Very
regal olive
It is
lean edge
What i just dont understand about the lore is how both teams got to be at the same complex at the same time
royal crow
what's the difference of chaos between r8e1 and e2
Going from a C tier difficulty level to the hardest level in the game is a big jump
vernal veldt
What i just dont understand about the lore is how both teams got to be at the sa...
it's like an alternate universe
lean edge
But they interact with one another
past vessel
R8 is a merge of membranes into singularity
regal olive
What i just dont understand about the lore is how both teams got to be at the sa...
Multiverses collapsed into each other and created a new one that contained both
vernal veldt
they do?
royal crow
What i just dont understand about the lore is how both teams got to be at the sa...
Spaghetti worldline, a bunch of worldlines collided
And made R8
regal olive
R8 is a combination of at least 3 universes
royal crow
You can see other dead teams of our protagonists
vernal veldt
i mean since there's a lot of variants ig there's a lot of wordlines and ig there's a lot of chaos
royal crow
i mean since there's a lot of variants ig there's a lot of wordlines and ig ther...
Not a lot, infinite
We only know about a couple million
regal olive
Infinite is a lot
royal crow
Or billion
I forgot
lean edge
But if its infinite the protagonists woulda necer escaped
vernal veldt
did they tho
regal olive
Spoilers
royal crow
But if its infinite the protagonists woulda necer escaped
Wdym
lean edge
vernal veldt
if the universe is infinite what stops the multiverse from having infinite universes
royal crow
R8 is just made of a couple worldlines
regal olive
if the universe is infinite what stops the multiverse from having infinite unive...
Nothing
royal crow
But in total in general infinite worldlines exist
vernal veldt
ok so we didn't fuck up THAT bad
vernal veldt
But in total in general infinite worldlines exist
just like a blackhole
you could travel in time infinitely
theoretically
regal olive
I don't know if we even know how the membranes merged
royal crow
We don't but our constant use of the MWP could have caused it
lean edge
We dont know most of the stuff tbf
vernal veldt
I don't know if we even know how the membranes merged
i mean it's probably a concept that not even we understand
and we as in all of humanity
we barely understand our universe
lean edge
Lore is way to complex if you wanna nitpick
past vessel
We don't but our constant use of the MWP could have caused it
Constant haphazard use of the MWP without learning the proper way from The Collectors which was briefly talked about in R6D1 logs
They said they’d teach Schaeffer how to project but that isn’t done properly until R8 itself and we have multiple unstable translocation tethers performed
vernal veldt
Constant haphazard use of the MWP without learning the proper way from The Colle...
who are the collectors
royal crow
who are the collectors
I
vernal veldt
waht destination
royal crow
Told you the last time
vernal veldt
i forgor im sorry 🥀
i usually forget stuff when i hear it for the first time
but then i remember the 2nd time
royal crow
Sureeeee
past vessel
The Warden didn’t do a very good job of making sure we dealt with trips to Destination that well, twice we deal with Matter Wave Collapses and cause the Flyers to follow us so that is what I believe leads to R8
All of that mess
lean edge
The warden laced the mwp
vernal veldt
is destination desert
royal crow
Yes
vernal veldt
oh ok i remember now
lean edge
Wish we had more outdoor sections
raw terrace
Wish we had more outdoor sections
so true
i kinda wanna
make
them
but i lack everrything to do so ksmdkm
past vessel
a copy of the game on steam
lean edge
But i think maybe lack of outdoor section keeps the game size down
languid sage
Wish we had more outdoor sections
wdym "more"
are you talking about the desert area
those don't even feel like an outside since it's such a small area
languid sage
when do we fight the collectors
😂
also I literally just realised what gtfo means in lore
raw terrace
.t gtfo
ruby lakeBOT
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.
next panther
I too am a sigma
royal crow
I too am a sigma
Proof
ruby meadow
I was just looking at this
GOTFO leaked name for the sequel
regal olive
I too am in this episode
regal olive
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather t...
"don't sue us please"
past vessel
FIVE HUNDRED MESSAGES?
https://tenor.com/view/five-hundred-cigarettes-bortus-orville-cigarettes-500-gif-7580742793072271551
just a lot of explaining
eternal talon
Luci should really read the for dummies doc...
It's what it is there for.
Idk about that.. how can you prove they aren't just random johns?
@vernal veldt read the "for dummies" documents in the pins of this channel. (Pdf and txt). I have no clue why nobody directed you there immediately.
? I feel like this is reaaaally reaching from the "of us" line in that alt://r6d1 log.
past vessel
Idk about that.. how can you prove they aren't just random johns?
Same Genotype as John Schaeffer, all from 000-000-000
eternal talon
Same Genotype as John Schaeffer, all from 000-000-000
Remind me what genotype means again?
regal olive
? I feel like this is reaaaally reaching from the "of us" line in that alt://r6d...
Joke
past vessel
Biology
noun
noun: genotype; plural noun: genotypes
the genetic constitution of an individual organism.
I was kidding the warden doesn't care
past vessel
(Pulled from Oxford Dictionary real quick to make sure)
regal olive
I meant that it wanted to leave its digital form and inhabit a body
eternal talon
What i just dont understand about the lore is how both teams got to be at the sa...
The matter wave projector is unstable. Even pre-apocalypse, when Insight were experimenting with it, they lost an entire wing of their lab and countless staff to "manfunctions" with the device. Over the years and as it is used, these glitches get worse, to the point where, in r6a1, it randomly warps us just from touching it. R8 is a spaghettified mess, a "matter wave collapse" of roughly a dozen different universes (worldlines) being slammed together. The code got too corrupt, so to say.
eternal talon
I meant that it wanted to leave its digital form and inhabit a body
We don't know that. The conduit calls the warden it's friend., it's effectively like a dog—a servant, meant to convey messages.
craggy spade
<@1295716092618084392> read the "for dummies" documents in the pins of this chan...
I haven't known there us one O.o
eternal talon
I haven't known there us one O.o
I know...
It won't spoil anything gameplay, but covers pretty much all pre-apocalypse lore.
craggy spade
It won't spoil anything gameplay, but covers pretty much all pre-apocalypse lore...
is there also a doc with the complete story because maybe I missed something?
eternal talon
The pdf was meant to be a replacement for the txt, but lies unfinished. It's best to read both.
eternal talon
is there also a doc with the complete story because maybe I missed something?
Uhhhh... generally there is too much. It'd be like a light novel's worth. 200+ logs.
The .txt is a mostly full summary
It has been updated repeatedly over the years, since OGR6, and is (probably) just about as compact as I could make it
eternal talon
if the universe is infinite what stops the multiverse from having infinite unive...
Technically it is not infinite, it just might as well be infinite.
If theory rings true, every action, probability, or decision would split into two new universes or worldlines, one where that thing occurred, one where it didn't, or any variation based on the number of variables.
From the first nanosecond of the big bang, an uncountable number of atoms and particles being flung in random directions—the number of worldlines already might as well be infinite.
From the collector's ship crashing on earth or not, a worldline is created. And from that worldline, all of gtfo is spun off.
10cc wrote themselves into a multiverse during r6.
They didn't have to, but they did.
If you have free time and want to read further, look into "Worldline Theory". It's a multiverse/time travel theorem, and while gtfo doesn't explore the time travel aspect, it generally follows all other rules.
You may know of this theorem from the anime Steins;Gate.
eternal talon
who are the collectors
Ancient aliens. (No, they didn't build the pyramids)
eternal talon
waht destination
An alien planet located in the butterfly nebula, roughly 3 thousand light years away. The version of this planet we visit is also in a different worldline/dimension/universe.
eternal talon
those don't even feel like an outside since it's such a small area
Ogr6b1 really felt open world to me, even though it was so small and restricted. I literally spent tens of hours solo just exploring every molecule.
eternal talon
when do we fight the collectors
We can't. Other than the warden, they are looooooong dead.
They pulled a Thing (1982). Their ship/crew got overrun and they crashed.
vernal veldt
<@1295716092618084392> read the "for dummies" documents in the pins of this chan...
ik abt it but it's not a crime if i ask direct questions
eternal talon
ik abt it but it's not a crime if i ask direct questions
your right, it's not.
vernal veldt
im sorry tho
kindred forum
your right, it's not.
Good afternoon, Frosty.
Could you please tell me what you think about the idea that, in addition to the usual sleepers, there are also sleeping animals on the surface, like dogs?
I introduced them into my work based on the game.
regal olive
Good afternoon, Frosty.
Could you please tell me what you think about the idea t...
Hi my name is frosty
Mr. Truth told us he got namv from his dog
So it can probably infect animals, plus we have no reason to expect it wouldn't infect other species
vagrant forum
didnt the parasite stay underground?
outside of like one report of an enemy (pablo?) on the surface
thought only nam-v escaped
past vessel
it was a striker wave variant detected on the surface
also only in 1 of the timelines did it remain contained
regal olive
In alt i think it got out
I don't remember which
There were sleepers on the surface
past vessel
in OG it was contained in ALT it got out
regal olive
I wish we had a more detailed account of how things went for the world
eternal talon
Good afternoon, Frosty.
Could you please tell me what you think about the idea t...
potentially.
if the virus and parasite can jump between and infect the collectors, the floaters, the kraken, humans, and god-knows whatever else is/was aboard the vessel, them jumping between different species on earth isn't at all unlikely.
there would be a far bigger gap between humans and the floaters/krakens than humans and canines or any other earth fauna.
eternal talon
didnt the parasite stay underground?
in the original worldline, yes. not in alt:// though.
the alt://worldline has reports of sleepers on the surface, particularly insofar as the Caribbean, have been reported by the Daylight team.
eternal talon
completely off-topic, but do any of you guys play an instrument?
loud urchin
i wish
not sure what i'd instrument i'd go after, but electric guitar and organ are the coolest imo
thin surge
completely off-topic, but do any of you guys play an instrument?
played drums through high school for marching, concert and an independent jazz band
royal crow
completely off-topic, but do any of you guys play an instrument?
Transverse flute
lean edge
Ukelele
next panther
completely off-topic, but do any of you guys play an instrument?
I did play drums but haven’t been able to much after moving out
Metal drumming was my forte
eternal talon
I played drums in middle and high school, but haven't in a long time. I have recently picked up and started learning the banjo.
regal olive
completely off-topic, but do any of you guys play an instrument?
Yes i play the flute
(I don't)
severe fulcrum
Good afternoon, Frosty.
Could you please tell me what you think about the idea t...
I'd guess so since where the virus is it comprises most of life as a whole (even though it's a virus... huh), and dogs and other earth animals don't differ from each other that much
autumn crane
Can someone explain to me how a Baby striker achieved sonic speed?
copper pine
Can someone explain to me how a Baby striker achieved sonic speed?
The same way baby zombie in minecraft did
autumn crane
The same way baby zombie in minecraft did
nah, the baby striker too fast for baby zombie.
thin surge
Can someone explain to me how a Baby striker achieved sonic speed?
Took an aggressive booster
eternal talon
On that topic (super late, I know) boosters have some absolutely insane properties (not talking about in-gameplay buffs)
I know with like, no limits our muscles are considerably stronger than we can use them,
But the amount of force to cause a sleeper's head to explode with a KNIFE is just insane
I'm not even sure if that's biologically possible, even with the adrenaline and everything
lean edge
a booster is literally called steroids i dont think its raw strength
they lacing tf out of the prisioners
eternal talon
they lacing tf out of the prisioners
This.
lean edge
the hsus contain every drug ever discovered
eternal talon
The sheer amount of drugs/strength that get used on KSOs in insane
Iirc we don't know any of thr actual drugs used in in-lore boosters, but it has to be some absolutely cracked cocktails
lean edge
the warden wants to make you belive the other teams died by monsters, but he actuulay made them all od by accident
eternal talon
KSOs are like mini-hulks
Compared to the average person, it'd be like a terminator
honest summit
I'm not even sure if that's biologically possible, even with the adrenaline and ...
boosters affecting your weapon performance/ammo economy is wild tho
eternal talon
boosters affecting your weapon performance/ammo economy is wild tho
Which is why I said non-gameplay lol
Obviously that's just game magic
honest summit
steroids is also a in gameplay buff tho. I think Shaeffer described a booster to henrikson as something what their brains crave for. Some giga scifi heroin
eternal talon
Because even without equipping one of the gameplay boosters we are... considerably more powerful than the average person, AND have more endurance/stamina
Bunny hopping through levels with 80+ lbs of equipment
I'd imagine we'd just have some sort of SUPER SUGAR CRASH after each expedition
From all our muscles just giving out
honest summit
what if we have pool noodle eqipment. Melee sure, it can be heavy, but what if everything else is made out of composite or lightweight alloys
eternal talon
I wonder what the average "lifespan" is for a KSO
honest summit
I wonder what the average "lifespan" is for a KSO
the intro cutscene implies that we are expired, and i dont think it was that long time between the miners last stand and the current
eternal talon
what if we have pool noodle eqipment. Melee sure, it can be heavy, but what if e...
I mean standard issue melee is a full-titanium bat, a primary rifle/smg, a secondary machinegun/shotgun, a tool of some kind, AND hundreds of rounds of ammo...
lean edge
I wonder what the average "lifespan" is for a KSO
4 minutes
eternal talon
the intro cutscene implies that we are expired, and i dont think it was that lon...
I mean iirc it was, we were just left in stasis for a long ass time
~a few years
lean edge
is it ever said?
lean edge
like exact time until chip to start of gameplay?
honest summit
I mean iirc it was, we were just left in stasis for a long ass time
pickled KSO marinating in the Muscles juice
eternal talon
like exact time until chip to start of gameplay?
Rundown 3 is 2063.
If I remember correctly, collapse was sometime between 2057 and 2059
I know we have a date for it, but I don't remember it
lean edge
the lore is peak, i fw it so much
eternal talon
the lore is peak, i fw it so much
Honestly.
I haven't seriously played the game in YEARS
I just love the lore so damn much
lean edge
what do you define as seriously?
honest summit
pubbing i assume
eternal talon
Playing more than one day out of a week.
Often though, I've gone months between reinstalling
Currently uninstalled
lean edge
Its storage is so lil i just always have it in hand
eternal talon
I figure if I haven't played something in a month, no point in keeping it on my desktop
I know we have over 200 logs,
But honestly I could binge 200 more
There is just something about the pre-apocalypse and collapse that interests me so much more than the actual gameplay / current day itself
honest summit
I know we have over 200 logs,
counting in the ones non related to the achivement like the ones on the screens and stuff?
eternal talon
The steam achievement doesn't count removed logs or logs that weren't ever in the game to begin with (santonian industries website and ambassador email logs)
Total is ~220ish last I counted
Autogen logs are randomly generated, and aren't considered.
Otherwise it'd be tens of thousands, at least
honest summit
The steam achievement doesn't count removed logs or logs that weren't ever in th...
Yeah, but i am talking about the ones you find on the monitors
That usually desplay some Bio readings, Warden Messing around or a bunch of errors
regal olive
Why do you enjoy the lore snowperson
honest summit
Surely its because of the deep and intricate Lore of the Shaeffer bucket
regal olive
But how did he wipe
severe fulcrum
the old fashioned way
regal olive
Scheaffer must have gotten really lucky with a long incubation period because there's no fucking way this man was never infected
final sentinel
Iirc (frosty can correct me if I’m wrong) he originally escaped his programming and then got into an HSU to hide, and got sealed in. Though he definitely should’ve succumbed to it in the time of OGR6-R8
Lore doc doesn’t seem to have any Schaeffer lore in it unless I’m doopid
lean edge
I dont think frosty will correct you for some time
lean edge
They on the stream rn
final sentinel
Wrong Frosty
lean edge
Oohhhh
final sentinel
i meant lore frosty not aussie frosty
lean edge
Frostty
eternal talon
Yeah, but i am talking about the ones you find on the monitors
Those are auto-generated too.
eternal talon
Why do you enjoy the lore snowperson
The collapse of civilization and the events leading up to it. I find them bizarrely realistic. Like watching a car crash.
The same reason why people love apocalyptic stories, I guess.
regal olive
But do you enjoy DIY home insulation
eternal talon
Insulation?
eternal talon
Pink glass blankets are scary.
eternal talon
What is your opinion on bubble wrap
Amazing.
eternal talon
Scheaffer must have gotten really lucky with a long incubation period because th...
Realistically he should have died yeeeeaaars ago, and it's a plot hole that he hasn't.
regal olive
Global pandemics have always interested me at least a little
Even before the event
It's interesting to imagine how humanity might try to survive turbo super aids polio
Premium
eternal talon
He was, as far as we know, the last living human (not including KSOs) in garganta, and is known to have visited areas of high sleeper density (the cafeteria)
eternal talon
So time before + the time spent starving in KDS-Deep, he'd cut it close
Even before hydrostasis
eternal talon
GTFOers are thin due to starvation
Idk wtf he is eating down here. He should be a skeleton
regal olive
Probably canned food
eternal talon
But when we see him in r8 he looks like he's been eating his protein powder
regal olive
It happened fast enough that food was likely left intact
Complex didn't fall due to starvation
eternal talon
No, it got overran and the warden sealed all the doors.
eternal talon
Survivors attempting to escape facing endless hordes of sleepers on one side and sealed off blast doors on the other
eternal talon
And used vents to move around
He did.
But he pretty much stayed in the really low levels
Kds deep is way down
regal olive
984
That's not so far
Max we see is like 1400
Starter levels are 400?
I don't remember
eternal talon
984- that's half a mile down
regal olive
What's a mile
eternal talon
American unit for travel
regal olive
Anyway i mean comparatively to other locations
It's not so extreme
We surpass that depth a bunch of times
Such a shame we bottom out so early
eternal talon
We never get to see the ship
regal olive
Where are the 2-3km deep missions
eternal talon
I'd live down there with how much time I spent on destination in solo
regal olive
I wanted more exploration
eternal talon
Even some concept art woulda been nice
regal olive
I suppose there's nothing useful there
And the risk is hilarious
You wouldn't make it off the elevator
eternal talon
I suppose there's nothing useful there
Maybe not to us, but in terms of alien stuff it'd be incredible
We could learn SO MUCH just by looking around in the ship at what they have and how it is structured
archaeology
Hammerstein lead full expeditions in there with KSO escort during the pre-apocalypse. It can't be toooo bad
Also... what kind of first name is Gallus?
plush nest
Hammerstein lead full expeditions in there with KSO escort during the pre-apocal...
8 player missions
eternal talon
8 player missions
More like escort missions. Way more than 4 scientists. Something like 12.
heady yoke
Hammerstein lead full expeditions in there with KSO escort during the pre-apocal...
Locate a 4th data cube
plush nest
36 player then
eternal talon
Now I'm just thinking of the cut ending to The Thing 2011 again...
We never got to see a collector
Or really any of the different kinds of life hammerstein describes them finding in there
past vessel
yeah
final sentinel
Realistically he should have died yeeeeaaars ago, and it's a plot hole that he h...
Ok so i was right that he should be dead
Thanks frosty 🙏
regal olive
warden, fetch me my opium
eternal talon
KSO: Help, I sprained my ankle.
BIOCOM: No problem! Administers enough morphine to kill a bear
KSO: AAAAAAAAAAAAA
It's both funny to me (and stupid) that Kovac kept KSOs infected with nam-v for "recycling" with other KSOs (organ transplants, etc)
KSOs must have a lifespan of like 4-6 weeks with the amount of abuse their bodies are put through.
No wonder Kovac was looking to replace them with the Rise Project's subjects.
Legally dubious obtaining of personnel + 2+ years of time in hydrostasis + chip implants and biological chemical augmentation/bathing for a soldier that only lasts you a month before all of its organs and muscles turn to jelly from overstress.
Rise's units only took a matter of weeks to mature into "adulthood" and with them keeping the mental capacity of children and not having memories to wipe, they are almost infinitely more efficient to produce
Hell, they are grown in-house so no kidnapping either. They'd never be missing persons to begin with
Kovac is evil with a capital E, but at least they were efficient
like the Germans
solid swan
Kovac is evil with a capital E, but at least they were efficient
I did thought of this games lore is gonna have some corporate greed
eternal talon
It does.
It's the core reason for why garganta exists.
They covered up and torched (flamethrowered) the bodies of deceased individuals and red cross workers at the side of the Merida earthquake so they could survey the area and eventually buy it all out to begin construction on garganta to get to the (supposed) massive iridium vein which turned out to be the collector's vessel
Kovac caught on to this due to santonian (and by extension dreyfus)'s inadequate security, and kovac blackmailed dreyfus for a spot in garganta to move their headquarters to in exchange for keeping quiet
solid swan
They covered up and torched (flamethrowered) the bodies of deceased individuals ...
the lore of this game sure does nail the corporate greed part loll
eternal talon
the lore of this game sure does nail the corporate greed part loll
During the collapse, during the expeditions into the ship, during the mass dying of all life on the surface, santonian was still digging for iridium in the ruins in/around the collector's ship.
If they came into contact with sleepers or collector artifacts/chambers, they'd simply shut down the equipment and call Kovac In to handle that tunnel/excavation sector. Like a routine.
The guy in charge of researching the artifacts and head of Insight, Gallus Hammerstein, was more interested with attaching his name to the scientific advancements and recovering specimens to shelve into display cases than the danger the site posed.
Almost every single person of any significance was in it for their own gain.
And everyone collectively suffered (and died) for it.
The entire outbreak on earth started from two scientists entirely flunking quarantine procedures on the first opened chamber of the vessel.
(Disregarding the mayan incident)
At least the ancient mayans self-sacrificed enough to prevent total extinction of the planet.
They cared.
In the 16th century, making do with what they had.
solid swan
The lore goes crazy
eternal talon
But modern humanity does not.
regal olive
Ok but isn't that dumb
eternal talon
In the lore, and irl, it doesn't care. Capitalism, and infinite growth, must chug on.
eternal talon
Ok but isn't that dumb
Potentially, but it depends on how you look at it. We know very little from the time.
eternal talon
Given that apocalypse
Are you aware that most of humanity irl will be extinct by the year 2100? Climate change, economic collapse, hell, even just population collapse.
regal olive
Are you aware that most of humanity irl will be extinct by the year 2100? Climat...
No
I'm not aware
eternal talon
There are several factors over rooting for our distruction and humanity collectively is doing very little to prevent it.
eternal talon
I'm not aware
As of a couple months ago, the ENTIRE NATION of tuvalu has begun being evacuated to Australia because their country is sinking into the ocean. Let me repeat that. THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
regal olive
Oh awesome
eternal talon
Tuvalu is just the first. Educate yourself on how fucked we are.
regal olive
We should burn more oil
i am moderately aware of how fucked we are
I've seen the maps
But also you know we're doing a few things
Europe at least
solid swan
how did we get to this convo btw
eternal talon
Last week we actually passed the first major tipping point - the irreparable collapse of the coral reefs.
regal olive
Parallel drawn to irl
To justify cartoonish decisions in gtfo
Oh fantastic
What did the coral reefs do were they important
eternal talon
how did we get to this convo btw
Talking about the collapse of civilization in GTFO and their (smc, kovac, dreyfus)'s greed and comparing its realistic-ness to irl.
regal olive
Or did we just wipe another species off the planet
eternal talon
What did the coral reefs do were they important
They support the overwhelming majority of ocean life.
regal olive
hm.
eternal talon
I just like to keep up with how fucked we are because it makes me feel less bad somehow.
regal olive
Well I'm doing my part
By doing nothing
yay
But seriously
What were they exactly planning to do with irridium after a global quarantine
Have fun refining it
And shipping it
regal olive
It immediately doesn't work
eternal talon
regal olive
25% of fish rely on reefs
I guess we'll be making more fish farms soon
Nothing some more industrial slop can't fix
eternal talon
https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/regulatory/article/sustainability-insights-w...
This is 2.3c BEFORE 2040.
sooner than predicted, worse than expected.
severe fulcrum
https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/regulatory/article/sustainability-insights-w...
insight mentioned
eternal talon
By the s&p. You know, that s&p.
solid swan
I'm a gtfo lore nerd, not a biologist.
I bet you played Shipwrecked 64 lowkey
eternal talon
Never heard of it.
severe fulcrum
yeah so anyways europe can do whatever we want the chinese won't stop burning everything they can get their hands on that releases energy quickly enough
lean edge
Yeah i remember ts in the gtfo lore
eternal talon
What were they exactly planning to do with irridium after a global quarantine
It's used in chips iirc. It's a real element.
regal olive
It's used in chips iirc. It's a real element.
I know that
I meant that the supply lines and infrastructure necessary to refine and sell it is instantly unavailable
You have nobody to buy it
solid swan
Never heard of it.
Its a more of story based game where you break the 4th wall and learn more about the corporate greed of the game
eternal talon
Nothing some more industrial slop can't fix
Don't even get me started on the AI bubble...
solid swan
wont say nothin else to spoil
eternal talon
The world is a mess. Both IRL and in gtfo.
regal olive
Don't even get me started on the AI bubble...
4.43 trillion market cap
loud urchin
i love being gaslit into thinking an algorithm is intelligent and trustworthy
severe fulcrum
just irl we are more directly responsible for it
loud urchin
i love letting my skills decay because i ask the word roulette machine
eternal talon
Retirement? Hahahaha.
regal olive
I've already accepted that I'll be working forever honestly
Hopefully it'll also be something good so i can feel good about myself for doing it
lean edge
If im not a billionare by 30 im robbing a bank
solid swan
regal olive
which bank will it be
solid swan
holy this convo really went to hell
solid swan
going from GTFO lore to despair
regal olive
holy this convo really went to hell
It's fine
lean edge
Mfs stole the louvre i have hope
solid swan
in span of 5 minutes
loud urchin
i'll do what i can with work, should earn a fair amount of money, i expect to have other people contributing too
regal olive
Gtfo is about despair it fits
regal olive
This is relevant
loud urchin
thankfully i'm not in a united states of poverty situation where people grasp for paycheques that come weekly
eternal talon
Learn how to treat/purify water, how to forage, and how to maintain a vegetable garden.
regal olive
Learn how to treat/purify water, how to forage, and how to maintain a vegetable ...
Look
Im gonna keep it real
eternal talon
Other than that, situate yourself preferably somewhere rural. That is all you can do.
regal olive
I'm not surviving a famine
next panther
https://tenor.com/view/average-conversation-in-this-server-discord-server-donowa...
Facts
loud urchin
i don't like large urban areas to begin with
regal olive
Neither are you probably
solid swan
thankfully i'm not in a united states of poverty situation where people grasp fo...
poverty is so common in america
loud urchin
somewhere nice and relaxed, more rural, more old, that's where i belong
eternal talon
I'm not surviving a famine
Unless you are reliant on modern medicine, you can realistically survive more than you think if you learn.
lean edge
poverty is so common in america
Poverty is common everywhere
regal olive
Foraging doesn't work at 8 billion people scale
eternal talon
I've been gardening, woodworking, and fishing since I was 6.
lean edge
Kill 7 billion people
regal olive
I'll just die
loud urchin
living in a nice old town with old victorian buildings and 3 (ex-)churches in close proximity
eternal talon
I know how to can, how to fish, how to purify water, etc
regal olive
Purifying water is barely a skill
eternal talon
I have a storage of MREs and water drums.
loud urchin
living without modern medicine would be very miserable in many ways
eternal talon
I'll be fine for a number of weeks, at the very least.
regal olive
Wow boil it for 2 minutes
lean edge
I live in one of the most remote places on earth, ice and snow as far as they eye can see
eternal talon
Wow boil it for 2 minutes
More than just boiling.
solid swan
yeah I am not reading this shi anymore
regal olive
Don't lecture me about charcoal
eternal talon
Or use tablets
Tablets are generally best, yeah
solid swan
regal olive
if famine hits even if i have a garden I'm gonna get robbed
eternal talon
living without modern medicine would be very miserable in many ways
I don't doubt it. Several of my family members are diabetic. It's just KO for them.
Shits fucked.
solid swan
I don't doubt it. Several of my family members are diabetic. It's just KO for th...
does anyone in this server like live normally damn bro
regal olive
does anyone in this server like live normally damn bro
I don't
loud urchin
depending on the type of diabetes you may fare better or worse
but regardless, the complications will catch up to you
lean edge
does anyone in this server like live normally damn bro
Gtfo players and normal in the same sentence💔
eternal talon
All the food spoiled
Yeah. No amount of knowledge will work without proper experience.
regal olive
Some might
eternal talon
Before everyone fucking dies, always gotta practice your methods. Test your equipment and knowhow
Better now than when you really need it.
regal olive
i don't like thinking about apocalypse because it's not going to be fun
It's just going to be a lot of hunger
For a lot of people
eternal talon
Yeah.
regal olive
I don't think we'll really go there though we can produce staple foods pretty hard
Flour and beans
eternal talon
Some pepper view it like they get to play irl fallout, but that's just a fantasy.
solid swan
this went so south ts crazy
regal olive
this went so south ts crazy
I think about this a lot okay
eternal talon
I don't think we'll really go there though we can produce staple foods pretty ha...
Most (I'm talking 60+%) of crops grown in the US aren't for human consumption.
regal olive
Do you have an idea of how interconnected and complicated it is to out fresh food in your supermarket
And how much food we consume globally
It's so much
eternal talon
With some leverage they could be a tiny bit of bounce back, but climate change making land just unfarmable, it depends
solid swan
Do you have an idea of how interconnected and complicated it is to out fresh foo...
nah I am not reading all this shi anymore
eternal talon
Doesn't help AI data centers draining millions of gallons of water daily
lean edge
nah I am not reading all this shi anymore
You said ts like 3 times already
regal olive
Most (I'm talking 60+%) of crops grown in the US aren't for human consumption.
Yeah see
That's good though because potentially we can in an emergency stop feeding livestock and overproduce grain and staples
Which is far more efficient
eternal talon
To wrap this back around to gtfo: everyone in this channel must become Mr. TRUTH
lean edge
No one will be
eternal talon
The death toll from nam-v was fucking insane.
regal olive
Fascinating
eternal talon
I'm talking from a deaths per year perspective
lean edge
Isnt it like 98%?
eternal talon
Shit spread so fast.
lean edge
In total
regal olive
4 billion cases 2.2 billion deaths
eternal talon
Isnt it like 98%?
I mean it's 100% but...
Like, if you catch it, you ARE fucked.
regal olive
I remember seeing
eternal talon
Some super isolated people probably survived... at least in OG
regal olive
For a bit
eternal talon
Not that there would be much world to go back to
regal olive
Until the water became contaminated
lean edge
I thought i read somewhere it wiped out 98%
lean edge
Different team
eternal talon
Sleepers in the carribean
regal olive
Sleepers of the Carribbean
eternal talon
Alt warden was just a bit too slow to seal the doors
Seal everyone inside and be left to their fates
eternal talon
That's what actually happened in both og and alt.
lean edge
If not it was just a death sentence
eternal talon
Warden after a while sealed all of the bulkheads
Everyone still in garganta was trapped
regal olive
Too bad it didn't get namv
eternal talon
It's why there are sleepers and corpses fucking everywhere
Nowhere for people to escape to
regal olive
I wonder what would happen if the complex didn't break quarantine
lean edge
But the corpses seem to be like carbonized
eternal talon
I wonder what would happen if the complex didn't break quarantine
Iirc when people first started getting the stoops they sent workers to relax on the coast on the surface
regal olive
I hate the term stoops
eternal talon
So do i.
regal olive
It sounds like it hurts
eternal talon
Stoopid ass scientists
Jaw crusher moment.
regal olive
Like you're hunched over because your back is hurting
You have a fever and can't think so you're swaying side to side
Like the fent lean but instead you're just dying from namv and in pain
eternal talon
The symptoms also got worse over time as nam-v adapted to modern humans
Originally it was asymptomatic, no?
eternal talon
@past vessel I'm on my phone
regal olive
Me too
eternal talon
Originally it was asymptomatic, no?
^?
regal olive
What do you even do in that situation
Like you're in your house
Half the world is infected, 1 in 4 is dead
Maybe you have it, maybe not
You're going to suffer horribly either way
You know you're going to die
eternal talon
Well, you really have a choice. You can either isolate and try and hold out, or you can say fuck it and be with your family.
Risks be damned.
regal olive
I don't think being with family is a great idea
past vessel
Originally it was asymptomatic, no?
Yes, incubation period can be anywhere from several weeks to months before symptoms start to show (I believe one of the R7 logs has this)
eternal talon
It really depends on the kind of person you are with what you choose.
regal olive
Not because of risks but because like
I don't think it would be very fun to just
Watch your family die
Painfully
eternal talon
I don't think being with family is a great idea
Maybe not a great Idea, but with the end of the world, it's more realistic that it might at first seem, I think
eternal talon
A couple times in the US there were false alarms for incoming missile strikes, notably nuclear, and that is what a lot of people did.
regal olive
A couple times in the US there were false alarms for incoming missile strikes, n...
That's different
eternal talon
Now granted, a nuke is a lot faster than a virus to kill you,
regal olive
That would be instant and painless death
eternal talon
But I think the same might apply if you know you only have so much time left. Bucket list things
lean edge
Dude, covid here was hell
regal olive
Could have maybe even died
lean edge
World longest pandemic we had
eternal talon
I think with covid there were just a lot of people that didn't care. For me, I cared a lot. I isolated and never got it.
Completely avoided all people
regal olive
Good job
eternal talon
Went out like once per month.
lean edge
From february 2020 to june 2021
eternal talon
I think in a true end of the world scenario like in gtfo, I might do the same. Try to ride it out and see what is left after.
lean edge
I stayed home all day gaming tho, i was like 15
regal olive
I also avoided all contact and got it through a family member who wasn't washing hands and refused to wear a mask :D
eternal talon
But that is just me
regal olive
I'm still extremely pissed about that
At least they didn't fucking die though so that's good
They're old
lean edge
I literally never saw anyone during covid
eternal talon
I stayed home all day gaming tho, i was like 15
I was unemployed at the time and just kept working on prepper projects. Mainly water purification at the time.
eternal talon
I did catch covid like a week or so ago though lmao
regal olive
But what i am proud of though
eternal talon
My mum got it and I got it from her
regal olive
When i caught it i quarantined myself in my room and my mom didn't get it despite living in the same house
lean edge
My only real achivement during covid was top 20 globally on bloon td battles
regal olive
She also didn't get it when we shared a car ride where i had my head stuck out the window the entire time lol during winter
eternal talon
When it comes to an apocalypse, there is a lot of people, mainly from media, that sort of, and it's weird to say this, but fantasize about the end of the world.
lean edge
No apocalypse is cool
regal olive
I used to be like that
eternal talon
In nam-v's case where it is super fast, I think there would be a LOT of denial. Not about it's existence or results, but about people themselves catching it.
regal olive
"yay zombie apocalypse no more school"
eternal talon
You'd find a lot of sealed up buildings with dead people inside if you were exploring after the fact
In the lore, we know pretty much every single country closed their borders and went full isolationist, and that kinda tracks.
regal olive
What else were they gonna do
regal olive
You can't not try
eternal talon
The same kind of people who fantasize about the end of the world are the same kind of people entirely unprepared for actually surviving/living it, as you said splash.
regal olive
The smart people aren't just gonna throw their hands up and go "welp had a good run"
They'll try
Even when countries completely collapsed they were still trying to re-establish contact with them
lean edge
Surface was decimated
eternal talon
I read a while ago, the amount of easily accessible resources on the surface have been depleted such that if an apocalypse should occur, that we wouldn't be capable of a second industrial revolution. We'd just be stuck.
regal olive
The same kind of people who fantasize about the end of the world are the same ki...
Yeah
If you're fantasizing about it you don't understand it
Because if you did then
eternal talon
We'd be stuck in medieval times 2.0
eternal talon
Id say even worse
Arguably, yeah.
lean edge
The only saving grace in currwnt times is the existance of modern items, but the production of more would be impossible, like medication and stuff
eternal talon
The only kinds of people actually going to long term survive some sort of global scale apocalypse are people already living that sort of way - homesteaders and people living off grid
regal olive
The only saving grace in currwnt times is the existance of modern items, but the...
Industrialization is cool
eternal talon
I don't live off grid (obviously), but I've spent almost my entire life in the sticks.
regal olive
That's nice
lean edge
I live in a place with almost no direct contact with anything
eternal talon
Building anything manually without modern equipment is easily 10x more time consuming and labor intensive
lean edge
And maybe upright impossible
regal olive
definitely
eternal talon
We also aren't taking into account the fact that nam-v targets all animalia, not just humans.
regal olive
I'm gonna stop thinking about the collapse of society and the world and go eat corn flakes
eternal talon
Hunting is dead. It's just subsistence farming and foraging
regal olive
Why would it
eternal talon
This was how Indians in the great plains were mostly wiped out.
We slaughtered tens of thousands and nearly extincted the American bison.
Today only several hundred specimens live in states like idaho.
To drive the tribes out, we killed their food.
lean edge
Humans have a tendency of killing animals
lean edge
Where is that in lore?
lean edge
Oh shit
eternal talon
Humans are savages
regal olive
i guess when it comes to prepping
you have to outlast the famine
so you need food for 1-2 months or so
until whoever is gonna starves does so and then you can go back to the now relatively sufficient amount of food
eternal talon
I think the expected time for most people to die off without access to food is 3 weeks.
eternal talon
But the more is preferable, obviously
regal olive
2 months doesn't sound all that impossible
i can buy some honey and like idk
some other non perishables
so i don't have to think about it
eternal talon
You'd need enough for people to die off (sounds horrible saying that) and enough to cover the time for you to adapt to what is left over.
regal olive
yeah that's what i'm saying too
so that when you go back out to get food the amount of people can now sustainably live off of it
eternal talon
Because no matter how badass or Rambo you expect yourself to be, you aren't just going to jump straight from eating canned goods or MREs to subsistence living.
Not even accounting for growing seasons
eternal talon
idk what subsistence living
Essentially old school homsteading.
eternal talon
Living entirely off the land. No shops, etc
regal olive
rough
regal olive
i have successfully grown a lot of tomatoes
eternal talon
He lives up in the UP.
regal olive
like an impractically large amount of tomatoes
so many tomatoes that we turned them all into sauce for pasta which lasted us 2 years
eternal talon
like an impractically large amount of tomatoes
It's important, vitally so, to stagger your crops.
eternal talon
Especially if you don't can.
eternal talon
Soil erosion is another thing. It's why corn farmers in the US plant soybean.
regal olive
i played vintage story so i know
eternal talon
It revitalizes the earth with nitrogen so the next harvest can be corn
Otherwise you'd just drain the dirt year after year until you can't grow a damn thing
regal olive
you can probably get a ton of compost from leaves and let it sit
doesn't work for large fields but in a garden it could
eternal talon
Compost helps, but it doesn't do everything.
For a garden, maybe.
I've only even seen it used on scale.
regal olive
a gardnen is all you need
eternal talon
I pretty much turned the entire backyard into a farm as a kid.
regal olive
we're talking small scale here
eternal talon
(No joke)
regal olive
(i believe you)
eternal talon
I grew up in the middle of nowhere and spent most of my childhood living with my grandparents.
I know how to read a paper map and use a compass
regal olive
i grew up in an old house near a mountain
the stars used to be visible
then slowly more lights started appearing over time
and they were lost
now i live near the sea
eternal talon
the stars used to be visible
This is the biggest fucking thing since I've moved to near downtown portland.
There are no stars
None
eternal talon
I don't know how city kids live
regal olive
like you do
eternal talon
It's just an entirely different culture
-and I'm going to call some people out here,
"Suburban" living isn't rural.
My home town, the largest town in the county, has, since 2009, a population of less than 9k
regal olive
what is that a controversial opinion or something
eternal talon
what is that a controversial opinion or something
You'd be fucking surprised. Mainly from suburban boomers.
eternal talon
It blows my mind.
regal olive
idk how things are there but i guess so
i've seen the american "oh i'm italian" meme
where they're 1/16th italian don't speak italian and haven't been in italy but they're from new york
i suppose that tracks with this too
"i saw corn once"
eternal talon
This isn't an "I have french ancestry so I'm french" thing. This is something I've noticed with almost every single suburbanite I've talked to about this.
I did a poll on this in high school
It was something like 78% considering themselves being from rural america
In a suburb of Atlanta GA
Delusional.
Absolutely delusional.
It's the same reason (to a lesser extent) why worktrucks and pickups are so popular in the US.
They are bought for appearances of "wanting a good ol' truck" rather than actually needing one
But idk... maybe I'm just gatekeeping a bit.
1: the kinds of people that think they can survive in an apocalypse absolutely can't.
2: the kind of people who think they'd struggle, might.
The skills actually needed to survive without modern convenience have been lost, rapidly I've seen even in just my own life.
But regardless, it isn't something you'd consider "fun".
Something like post-climate change or post-economic collapse or post-nam-v wouldn't be like fallout raiding supermarkets. It'd be suffering.
There is one game I've played that I think actually does the concept justice, and that'd be "This War of Mine"
By 11bit studios
regal olive
haven't played it
i play frostpunk as you might be able to tell from my attire
my fav universe
eternal talon
I'd really highly recommend it. It takes place in an eastern European inspired country during a Civil War.
You play as a group of civilians, trying to survive by scavenging and not getting shot.
It's something like a 9.5/10 on steam
regal olive
i know the gist yeah
it doesn't interest me very much because i don't know if i want mroe depresso espresso right now
eternal talon
Frostpunk is great, though I prefer the original over fp2
eternal talon
i know the gist yeah
it doesn't interest me very much because i don't know if ...
Yeahhhh I know that feeling.
regal olive
fp2 gave us some cool art at least
eternal talon
Oh I'm not saying it's bad, it just different, and not my cup of tea. I much prefer the smaller, more intimate story of the first game.
The super small scale and population really makes it more investing. Like the last swan song of humanity
regal olive
the end is never the end is never the end is never
eternal talon
The last Autumn was also great too.
eternal talon
THE GENERATOR... I-ITS OPERATIONAL, ITS OPERATIONAL!!
ALL HAIL TO THE WORKING CLASS!!
regal olive
i go engineers every time
regal olive
unlike fp2
eternal talon
Truly a great game
regal olive
we were actually just arguing about this with some other guys
fp2 is hilariously unbalanced in favour of adaptation and merit
but this is really off topic now
eternal talon
I saw a post on reddit yesterday...
"900 people have died in a riot"
The scale just... is weird
Anyway, anything left to discuss on the topic of GTFO and the world ending?
eternal talon
Not that I know of
I think it was just too fast
It was more of countries going out with a whimper than a bang
eternal talon
Now, I know alt is completely fucked, but let's theorize on OG for a bit...
Do you think life could eventually bounce back?
Garganta is still a ticking time bomb, but it is sealed off, for now at least
severe fulcrum
og was no parasite but still namv outside of garganta right?
eternal talon
Yes. Pretty much everyone and every animal died, but no sleepers.
Their corpses would still be dangerous for a number of weeks
But once it stopped being spread and there was time for nam-v to die off, it'd be "clean"
severe fulcrum
how long can the virus last on it's own
it doesn't matter does it
nothing outlasts it anyways
severe fulcrum
uhhhh if it really cleans itself out no matter how slowly I guess something could emerge again
eternal talon
I know we have a number for on surfaces
But let's just go with 5 weeks
Because the main thing with nam-v, is it is super lethal, super infectious, and spreads super far super fast.
It kills fucking everything, but then because everything is dead, it runs out of food
It kills itself
That's why it's symbiosis with parasitidae garganta is so potent.
Sleepers give nam-v a bottomless fuel tank.
Somehow, nam-v renders the parasite and it's host immortal
(To aging, not gunfire)
severe fulcrum
It kills fucking everything, but then because everything is dead, it runs out of...
wrong plague inc speedrun strat
eternal talon
And they seem to be able to hibernate just fine for tens of millions of years
Or even not hibernating, just floating around for billions of years in the case of the destination floater variants
Where are they getting all this energy? I have no idea-my supplier didn't tell me where he sources his from
eternal talon
Dauda theorized at one point, that nam-v might has been created by the collectors as a sort of bioweapon
Because of how OP it is.
But regardless of where it came from, it's relationship with parasitidae garganta was never intended, and they came across eachother at some point later on (they didn't evolve together)
regal olive
Membrane to membrane energy transfer?
Since there are endless
Maybe a membrane version of each parasite is photosynthesising or otherwise getting energy in another membrane
And then magically transmitting it to the ones in symbiosis
Also interestingly
Many of the sleepers were never even human?
Like the ones in waves
They get spawned in and have some little bits of human dna
eternal talon
Many of the sleepers were never even human?
depends on what you mean by "human"
1: normal humans infected by nam-v that a parasite found and took control of.
2: ancient floaters/kraken (living alien life) that got infected by nam-v that a parasite found and took control of.
3: human infants bred and then infected by nam-v/parasitidae garganta in the womb of a mother/pmother/megamother.
4: infected human sleepers being absorbed and mass-cloned by respawn sacks on ceilings.
1 were human. most of 4 were human. 2 were never human. 3... depends on your definition. they never got to live a life.
4 also depends on if you consider a clone to be the same person or a new person
the red variants from waves... same as scouts, chargers, etc, its different subspecies of parasite
**### Entry: Gallus {genus}
Poss. intro? fix end bit
/quote
There are cross-species behavioral distinctions that separate all species within the genus. The dark-skinned variants tend to be more active hunters, suggesting the darker pigmentation is a product of natural selection. They are harder to see and therefore more successful predators. The light skinned breed are still vicious and will attack at the slightest provocation, but they do not seek the prey as actively, they are more disposed to sedentary, almost somnific, behavior. They wait, and strike when roused.
/quote
Entry: Gallus Reptus
Paragraph on:
- Reptus show little signs of intelligence beyond their predatory instincts. Clarify the intraspecific devolution theory?
- possibility of structured hierarchy among the pack, and the role of Reptus in that hierarchy
- possibility that Reptus are a post-metamorphic stage of Jaculus? Note no confirmed sightings of Jaculus in a pupal state.
- NEED DNA SAMPLE
Entry: Gallus Jaculus
- more intelligent than Reptus, or given a more strategic role in the hive?
- what are the implications of emergent intelligence.
- potential human connection/influence. Mimicry or symbiont relationship with parasite?
- remove that woman from the team
Entry: Gallus Capreolatus
Name options:
- Capreolatus
- Cirrhus
- Pampinarii
- Clavicula
Discuss tendril hypotheses : - diphyllobothrium latum mimicry?
- siphonophore/zooids theory
- NEED DNA SAMPLE
Gallus Horridus
- advanced predation techniques
- purpose of keratinous growths unclear. does it charge under threat?
- NEED DNA SAM**
nam-v kills its host with mutations.
if an instance of parasitidae garganta gets to a host and takes control of it before nam-v's mutations kills it, parasitidae garganta continues the hosts' mutations.
what sleeper variant the host turns into depends on 1: the subspecies of parasite. this is favoritism. 2: the biological/physical makeup of the host.
it'd be very inneficient to turn frank the roided up bodybuilder into a shooter, so instead, he is turned into a giant.
even if the parasite subspecies is the scout subspecies.
this is where (in my theory anyway) where Hybrids come from.
mismatch of host and parasite subspecies.
also fun fact: the kraken is a hybrid subspecies (of sleeper, not parasitidae)
past vessel
1: normal humans infected by nam-v that a parasite found and took control of.
2:...
Is this what Cocoons are?
I don't openly recall a log that talks about Cocoons, is all
Only mention I think is R5A2 Interrupted Comms
eternal talon
I don't openly recall a log that talks about Cocoons, is all
you are correct.
"absorbed"... entirely speculation on my part as to where they come from.
realistically, they are biologically impossible.
i'm simply drawing logical conclusions from gameplay.
take the truck's worth of salt.
past vessel
We did have a previous discussion about Cocoons where notably every single enemy except for Flyers and Nightmares can be found in zones with them
eternal talon
realistically they'd be a very very slow way to repopulate hordes.
the mothers are more grotesque and efficient.
past vessel
and even Mothers can be respawned by them, as well as Tanks
eternal talon
given how they function in gameplay, the only thing i can assign to them in terms of theory is asexual reproduction; cloning.
drawing in resources/biological material brought to them or from the environment and copying one instance into two, then dropping it onto the floor
like an amoeba.
ionic dune
Id prolly say the cocoons repopulate mothers and other bosses first and then mothers repopulate the rest if it’d come to it
eternal talon
with the asterisk that mothers and tanks may not be normal mutations, and may have been influenced by dauda's research.
ionic dune
(Going from a lore not gameplay perspective)
eternal talon
(i agree with you)
ionic dune
with the asterisk that mothers and tanks may not be normal mutations, and may ha...
True i forgot about that part
Also how you been frostty been a long time
eternal talon
i've been alright. cought covid last week.
ionic dune
Yeowch
eternal talon
^
ionic dune
Was it bad or was it like not that deep?
eternal talon
i was sick for like 4 days or so until the symptoms went away
it really sucked for those first few days, though
past vessel
oh yeah Frostty are you aware of RespawnSackBarcodeFix
ionic dune
Well its inching closer
eternal talon
oh yeah Frostty are you aware of RespawnSackBarcodeFix
nope.
past vessel
so at some point, Cocoons had their decal on the floor (the intestines) borked. There is supposed to be a blood spatter decal painted on the floor, but because it is oriented incorrectly, the decal only displays slivers of the blood in a way that resembles a barcode for items at the grocery store
eternal talon
so at some point, Cocoons had their decal on the floor (the intestines) borked. ...
funny.
ionic dune
so at some point, Cocoons had their decal on the floor (the intestines) borked. ...
No its just vibration in the complex making the blood pile up like that :3
past vessel
Also happens around the base of the Cocoon on the ceiling
see here, vanilla R5C1
you can probably see why it's called a barcode
eternal talon
oh, btw, i read in gtfo-chat, did you ever find the stats for the ogr1 arbalist? (my beloved)
ionic dune
so at some point, Cocoons had their decal on the floor (the intestines) borked. ...
Is it automatically enabled in the archive?
past vessel
Is it automatically enabled in the archive?
Uhh I do not think so offhand
past vessel
oh, btw, i read in gtfo-chat, did you ever find the stats for the ogr1 arbalist?...
I have not, but I was made aware damage worked different back then as well?
eternal talon
i have no clue. that was 6 years ago now.
ionic dune
Uhh I do not think so offhand
Hmmm I haven’t noticed them except for when you told me
Meh its at the ceiling so
past vessel
Meh its at the ceiling so
it's both the ceiling and floor decals like this
they both got incorrectly oriented at some point
eternal talon
i have pictures showing 25/82 magazine at 100% capacity, but you can't save damage in a jpg lol
ionic dune
it's both the ceiling and floor decals like this
Yea I’m blind so
ionic dune
Yea I’m blind so
Eva walked past me yesterday and I didn’t notice him
ionic dune
*then they butchered it*
Like usual with their balancing
eternal talon
Like usual with their balancing
ionic dune
Team lets make 3 guns super op and make the rest kinda badge (excluding hel weapons)
eternal talon
the last time the sniper was good was ogr6.
also i think the only time it was meta
ionic dune
Yeppers well good things always comes to an end
Would’ve loved to play sniper ngl
Sniper sawed off sounds and is so fun
past vessel
Yea I’m blind so
so many barcodes...
ionic dune
so many barcodes...
I have to have barcode mod no way I haven’t noticed this
past vessel
We have a way to fix visual bugs now at least, VisorWipers
you press F2 when you get something like that, resets your vision
ionic dune
at least they made the visual bugs slightly better over time...
Wdym you don’t like playing with this?
eternal talon
Wdym you don’t like playing with this?
not being able to see anything was intended back then.
it was great
(no /s)
ionic dune
🔥
Wish i was here for that time
But then i also prolly wouldn’t be playing it by now
eternal talon
i've already showed the og vs alt differences here before...
past vessel
I have to have barcode mod no way I haven’t noticed this
it doesn't look like it's included in TheArchiveCore or ArchiveEssentials
eternal talon
they butchered some stuff BAD
past vessel
i've already showed the og vs alt differences here before...
You know about the missing ceiling goop right
ionic dune
it doesn't look like it's included in TheArchiveCore or ArchiveEssentials
🤔 well i prolly have it enabled
eternal talon
You know about the missing ceiling goop right
no?
ionic dune
they butchered some stuff BAD
Yea
eternal talon
Wish i was here for that time
c*m foam
past vessel
c*m foam
In OG, in the very well known donut room such as R2D2 or R5D1 with the scouts zone, there was that same ceiling goop. In ALT, it has been removed
eternal talon
you mean back into the game?
past vessel
(behind the scenes it isn't actually removed it's just set to be invisible and it can easily be enabled again)