gtfo-lore

[past vessel]

There’s definitely other products made in conjunction too, Santonian + Nyxos logos are both on the Fog Turbine

[raw terrace]

team effort what cuties :3

[eternal talon]

No idea. Kovac has been using legion for decades, though, so seems unlikely it'd be them

[past vessel]

They've got a Santonian logo on top, I found that. Regarding Project Insight-- are they also under Dreyfus?

[severe fulcrum]

from what I recall yall talking about it, yeah

[past vessel]

thank you

now I need a vote

who wants to go on a scavenger hunt

#gtfo-lore message

Do NOT ask me how I found this message

🕴️

That has to be within OG R1

I THINK ive found that exact light in ALT

(not entirely sure)

But here's the problem: it's indeed what I expected it to be, a STAL3Y LLC. light

I've never seen a Vedder light but it has clearly existed at one point

I looked a bit more into Grohl-- they're the cabling of the complex. Stuff bearing their names is on wire spools, from small to giant industrial size spools

Also can someone check the vehicle inside R1B1 after the 2nd alarm of the level (when going right after starting room), it sure looks to me like an Aelfo light fixture which is extremely uncharacteristic of them

it's either the light itself or the truck

i have to be back later

[eternal talon]

yes.

OG:R6 EQQ-RZE-6M

[ionic dune]

Bro this automod

[eternal talon]

## Weekly Achievements
This week we received a new shipment of specimen display cases and formaldehyde. To their credit, Dreyfus have been more than helpful in making sure my project is sufficiently funded and supported for the last 2 years. I'm glad they recognize the importance of my work.

• Dr Hammerstein himself.
  OG:R7 QSW-EQW-S99

[ionic dune]

Ass hat is censored

[eternal talon]

and your silver bullet:

With regards to your concerns over Project Insight, you should be talking directly to your superiors at Santonian. Dreyfus Industries does not get involved with the internal operations of our subsidiary organizations.
ALT://R5 1JL-OYY-NBR

I have offered some suggestions to SMC on how to initiate Project Insight and recommended some key personnel, but that is the full scope of my involvement. Project Insight has its own entity and structure. I am only an observer.

That being said, I fully support the SMC board in this decision. Santonian are making many interesting new discoveries at Garganta, but they are a mining company at heart, and their research capabilities are limited. The launch this month of Project Insight, as I understand it, will enable greater and more comprehensive explorations within the mine and properly systematize the collection and analysis of artifacts.

You will of course still oversee all mining operations within Garganta, but where you drill, when you drill, what you drill, how you drill, and if you drill will now be dictated exclusively by the Project Insight team. This is, after all, a collaborative effort.

@past vessel

[eternal talon]

the more i look back at old messages... i was so cringe in my teen years... i hate it.

[past vessel]

#gtfo-lore message

[eternal talon]

Sorry, the file you have requested has been deleted.

[past vessel]

I had hoped to find more info on Vedder here but this is the problem with hosting google docs over the years

and this is why it needs to be preserved on wiki

That person hasn’t messaged here in over 5 years so I won’t bug em

[eternal talon]

don't forget to fix the daylight mission page. it still says the alt:// timeline ddn't have sleepers on the surface.

[past vessel]

Yep thanks for the reminder

[eternal talon]

you asked for feedback about a number of things, but that was ages ago

a long ways up the chat log

why "Dreyfus Industries is the parent company of Santonian Industries, and is directly responsible for HSUs and equipment that processes them." in the minor companies wiki article? is that verifiably true? Kovac invented them way back in 2035 for the mars mission.

[past vessel]

Yeah I have that dw

[eternal talon]

ah
The crew of Red Alpha will be asleep for much of the 4-month journey to Mars, thanks to the new Hydrostasis Hibernation Chambers on board. This breakthrough technology has been funded almost entirely by Dreyfus Industries and KDS. Plenty of rumors abound regarding the reason for --
disregard

but strange i've never noticed that before

[past vessel]

With the edits today to minor companies page the wiki has its first mention of what Project Insight actually is lol

[eternal talon]

*** ...and is responsible for the technology behind the Matter Wave Projector and Jump Gates.***
i get what you are saying by this... but technically....

(lol)

i see you elaborated further in the next line

[past vessel]

🕴️

[eternal talon]

ooh! forgotten spacebar

or tab, tbh.

[past vessel]

whoops looks like I missed a linebreak

Will fix once back

[eternal talon]

Techman Defence appears to be the largest fuel storage provider, seen very often in the Refinery environment and occasionally within the Digsite environment. isn't one of the tools also labeled techman?

[past vessel]

Oh right the machineguns

They’re a weapon manufacturer too

Good catch

[eternal talon]

ah! my arbalist

and the veruta

does the hydrokinetic fluid collection case have a heliform logo? i don't remember

it does!

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Collection_Case

[past vessel]

oh so it does

Which mission is that again

[eternal talon]

r7b1

a1 is insert code ""i forget what it was'" and maddox screaming

b1 is fluid case

c1 is henriksson

i remember

-Kovac Defense Services (erroneously spelled Kovak Defense Services on their vehicles), are seen in the Floodways environment as heavily armored vehicles-- often seen in groups of two.
don't forget Kovac Research - KR

**D-Lock Block Cipher

Sender: Ellis Carnegie
Receiver: Angela Klein A016
Date: March 13th 2051
Subject: Sec-B-M Chip 2.7.4 has been shipped

Ms. Klein,

The new Sec-B-M chips have been sent out. The first shipment will contain 120,000 chips ready for installation. These chips will allow you to increase the PRDM upload speed to 1300MB/s without any risk of overloading the subject.

I have forwarded the installation instructions to your cybernetics team, though it’s much the same as all the 2.7’s. There may be a slight protuberance once implanted as the chips use a new integrated 3d structure, making them slightly thicker. We have reinforced the shell to account for the reduced sub-dermal depth. The new chips are more vulnerable to magnetism, so they’ll need to be checked if the subject is exposed to any field in excess of 25,000g.

Please be careful with over pasting. Dots not crosses.

Ellis Carnegie

Kovac Research, Pretoria**

... There have also been
questions raised about who Kovac Research is using for the human
trials, with some suggesting that participation may not be entirely
voluntary. ... The breakthrough that Kovac Research hopes will answer these questions
is called Hydrostasis...

like SMC is technically both Santonian Mining Co and SSIC (santonian strategic investments company)

also kovac is called kovak in one log on the wiki. OG:R5's hackett introduction log, if you want to fix that typo or keep it as is.
914_IW-001.LOG

[past vessel]

I will fix

fixed

[past vessel]

trying to figure out what is going on with that one Aelfo light in R1B1...

[past vessel]

So, what this appears to be is modular storage trucks with Santonian + Aelfo. The fixtures for each truck are interchangeable, and can fit stuff from pallet cages to fuel tanks from Cornell

those lights can be at various parts of the trucks, it's not unified, I've found a few but this is the only Aelfo light I've found

And Santonian rigs up custom chassis for what that truck is meant to haul

A good level to observe it is R6D3 if not R1B1 (starting zone vs just after 2nd alarm)

Just found Concrete mixers by Omneco

[raw terrace]

omneco the icon ✨

go queen make those canisters

[past vessel]

Omneco is responsible for far more than I thought

still have not found a Vedder light or anything with their logo

[past vessel]

Wow OK

Those wacky rooms in R7C3 OVL have even more stuff that I've never seen before

pallet cage lifts are seen in the famous "donut rooms" of R2D2, R5D1 Main, R7C2 OVL

These have proper winches and what not

seen here

this on the other hand

It's very unique, I've never seen CNTRL generators until now and Nyxos being involved with pallet cage lifts?

it's only seen here

also, Z330 is a massive Cornell storage/refinery area, their name is plastered all over in there

new robot

"nurse robot" in gardens

oh wow

Aelfo does the floor lights in gardens

Nyxos and Omneco are everywhere in Floodways, with the only others being Shirano if there's a gen, Cornell for security door/bulkhead lighting, CNTRL for Terminals of course, and the Kovac Defense Services vehicles

[past vessel]

alright, appended the edits for the Minor Companies with all of this. Still have not found Vedder lights...

[raw terrace]

i love environmental storytelling that tells details about the world in a small but funkt manner aaa!!!!!

[past vessel]

Did a little backend investigation with some wonderful folks, Vedder lights indeed appear to have been removed in favor of STAL3Y LLC lights

[raw terrace]

vedder was executed by santonian and promptly replaced

idc thats my headcanon

[royal crow]

Dumbass got hacked

[eternal talon]

who got hacked? what's the context?

[ionic dune]

Just some random guy, always happens in this dc

[past vessel]

Biocom

[eternal talon]

you don't say...

[past vessel]

Working on daylight mission page now. Much needed edit

[shrewd violet]

question for the lore nerds. in r8c2 when the gang are getting the brain chips sucked out with the mri, schaeffer tells them that the other team would probably betray them because they're AU copies. but is there any indication prior to this moment that the two teams were actually aware that they were AU counterparts? when they communicate throughout r8 using hearsay terminals it converts it to a vox, so do the prisoners know that the 'other team' they are helping are AU versions of themselves prior to this?

[raw terrace]

the alt team never rlly did knew they were alts, but in b3 schaeffer hears himself talming to the other team, its possible he investigated and saw it was them too and just happened to reveal it in the frenzy of trying to convince them team to not pull out their chips

[eternal talon]

1. they aren't getting removed. They are simply being fried/damaged beyond repair.

2. OG team are the originals... you have that reversed.

3. as far as I can recall, both teams had no direct knowledge of the other's true nature. OG knew more than ALT, I suppose, but very little was known for certain before this point.

[slow night]

Wait if the brain chips are still in how are we disobeying sharon?

[honest summit]

they dont controll us

Biocom sends orders through it, KSO follow them just because they are mindless drones

[slow night]

So we had enough of their shit and just did that ourselves?

[honest summit]

did what?

[slow night]

Going into the funny magnet

[honest summit]

ofc

otherwise Shaeffer wouldnt be pissed

[slow night]

I assume the warden couldn't do anything to stop it either? No like cutting power to the machine or anything? I still haven't gotten that far into r8, still on a2

I would assume after that both Sharon and the warden are both trying to stop us from blowing up the place

[honest summit]

who tf is Sharon

[slow night]

Schaefer

Phone keeps autocorrecting and I think its funny

[honest summit]

They dont know our intents

[eternal talon]

out of range, ala r7d2 would be my guess

either that, or schaeffer doesn't have the control that biocom did for the original prisoners pre r7d2 and the restart in r7e1

r8 is a bit fucky...

alt:// is controlled by warden,

but og quad is controlled by schaeffer

[honest summit]

tbh Henriksson was the one proficient with the terminals, Shaeffer is just a monkey on a typewriter

[slow night]

wack

i guess i just overestimated the strength of the chips

[eternal talon]

KSOs are essentially robots.

we do what the chips tell us.

the chips get commands from biocom

and biocom gets commands from either warden, or schaeffer

both hacked it

just at different points

[slow night]

and we were deep/far enough away that chips didnt get an order telling us to not fry them

[eternal talon]

maybe... but equally likely that schaeffer is just shit

he doesn't know how to issue commands

[slow night]

wouldnt the warden also not want us to get fried?

[eternal talon]

we can't say for certain either way

[eternal talon]

warden doesn't have control over the OG quad

[honest summit]

My boy Shaeffer finally found out hot to cut off our level clearences only halfway through D2

[slow night]

oh

[eternal talon]

warden still controls ALT://, because schaeffer didn't rebel in alt://r6

we (og) are free because of OG schaeffer's rebellion in ogr6 extended and r7.

alt:// doesn't have an r7

[slow night]

so OG just has the regular biocom in their heads, and that biocom continues to send orders we just ignore them post fry?

[eternal talon]

no

but also yes

there is contradictory information here.

[honest summit]

try sending messages to a fried phone

[eternal talon]

because of the r7d2 server room log.

schaeffer is controlling us through biocom post r7d2/e1.

but the only thing keeping biocom controlled was the warden constantly restarting it.

without the warden controlling it, biocom should go back to regularly scheduled programming and easily rid itself of schaeffer's nonsense

but it doesn't

woooo 10cc writing

[royal crow]

OG Schaeffer took control of Biocom and sent order to us in R7E1 and early R8

[royal crow]

After R8C2 we fry the chip and gain free will

[eternal talon]

the blue hud text, yep yep

[honest summit]

No more bald man in le head

[slow night]

im just asking because I assume biocom (through schaefer or whatever) is what tells the elevator to pick us up and drop us down into levels

[royal crow]

I want Schaeffer inside me

[royal crow]

Btw the Elevator is just a gameplay element

In theory we walk from C2 to D2 and from D2 to E2

[slow night]

oh

that makes a lot more sense then

[eternal talon]

if we re-entered hyodrostasis we'd just get re-chipped

the chippening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igq3d6XA75Y

[honest summit]

it is pretty weak isnt it? iirc the depth differences are impossible to just "take a ladder"

[slow night]

i assumed the pods would recognize us as faulty or something

[eternal talon]

faulty is its own designation (woods is faulty)

and hsus already house tons of them normally

kovac used them for organ transplants mostly

[honest summit]

Ok, so why'd the KSOs Biocom kick him out of the HSU? ... Cause he wasn't chippin' in

[eternal talon]

this isn't an english sentence...

i feel like you got some words out of order there

[slow night]

wait so the events after getting de-chipped must take place pretty quickly otherwise they'd starve/dehyrdate

[eternal talon]

or die to nam-v, yeah.

[honest summit]

nah, thats how it was presented in the elevator (witht the words replaced)

[slow night]

interesting

[eternal talon]

i genuinely don't understand what you are saying

[royal crow]

As far as we know R8 could take place in less than a day lol

[eternal talon]

like i recognize the words but not the order they are strung together

[honest summit]

it was a the joke that Jakie made in the elevator 🥀

[past vessel]

I'm certain you are pretty cool

[slow night]

one last thing, is there any specific reason they left alt crew behind other than just spite/panic?

[eternal talon]

oh, i didn't realize you were making a reference

[eternal talon]

i'm not. i play D&D. i'm the biggest of nerds

[royal crow]

Why would you open the door? Knowing damn well there's even more monsters outside and another group of "ourselves"?

It was too risky to do it

[eternal talon]

yeah, i agree with pable here

it was probably a simple risk assessment

[slow night]

you would get presumably twice the manpower, and this second group must be capable enough if they managed to get the cubes through

[royal crow]

Nah fuck them

I have the chance to leave already I'm taking it

[eternal talon]

you have to account that alt:// doesn't know that in their point of view, they'd have clones of them opening the door

[honest summit]

what specifically interests me is their wording "Its either them or us"

[eternal talon]

that's a whole kind of mess that it really isn't the time for

[past vessel]

the ALT crew has no idea that the OG crew is them and the OG Crew JUST killed their Schaeffer. I highly doubt they would be thinking the ALT crew would be friendly

so yeah

[eternal talon]

and they think that schaeffer is... yeah

[slow night]

surely the alt crew knows some stuff about the universal stuff from logs and crap

[royal crow]

Tbf they could have open fire as soon as they saw them or saw Schaeffer wasn't there

[past vessel]

"It's us or them" is what I would be thinking in the OG crew's minds

[eternal talon]

meanwhile there are two errors alarms going

there is no time to work things out

they'd get pincer'd

[slow night]

if there is only like 4 spots or not enough power to transport more people id get it, but i would think in the panic of oh god oh fuck baddies everywhere the last thing i would do is shoot the guys who let me through to the exit

[royal crow]

Getting hit from both sides 😍

[eternal talon]

frank hittin hard'

[honest summit]

two best of the best teams each holding a entrance? ez E2 clear

[slow night]

then again dont you kinda go crazy from losing the chip like sharon did?

[eternal talon]

no?

[royal crow]

We already have that
Is called "lobby expansion mod"

[slow night]

is it the living in a hellscape underground that drove him mad then?

[honest summit]

8 betterbots lobby

[eternal talon]

schaeffer went nuts because he was alone in the complex for fucking years

he was left for dead after his squad got wiped out and the warden forgot about him

[honest summit]

wasnt ALT shaeffer also alone tho?

[eternal talon]

god knows how he's been surviving down here for so long

[eternal talon]

yeah, but its not the only factor.

they also have slightly different personalities.

[slow night]

understandable

[eternal talon]

their recruitment forms are different

from the ambassador email logs

[royal crow]

"time traveler moves a chair moment"

[eternal talon]

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/images/f/fa/SchaefferCRS.png?a1b067=&format=original

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/images/3/3f/SchaefferCRS_2.png?77cf42=&format=original

one is redacted, the other isn't.

but the information therein is different

[honest summit]

but it has the same Psych eval

[eternal talon]

what the fuck

i know for a fact one of them is different

[honest summit]

i mean, i am looking at them, and dont see a difference 🥀

[eternal talon]

i'm not mandella'ing this

[royal crow]

Are you sure?

Maybe you traveled worldlines?

[honest summit]

both are rebellious, so ALT shaeffer should also be a bad boy

[royal crow]

I can fix him

[honest summit]

he can fix me

[royal crow]

What the fuck

[eternal talon]

no, i made a specific note of this

it was the thing with the link

when this log was hosted on the now defunct santonian website

i even have pictures saved to my hard drive

[honest summit]

interestingly, it does say that his anger issues could be treated with meds. Maybe gramps has been off his meds for too long?

[eternal talon]

i don't know what the fuck

This is State of Truth AM. I want to talk about something... personal today. You know, I can't very well call myself Mr. Truth if I'm not honest with you, can I? Well, for the last few months, I have been... experiencing things that I can't explain. I have memories, memories that I have been told are false. Memories that even Mrs. Truth tells me are in my imagination. These memories are fleeting, but they are clear, precise recollections of events, they are... emotional connections to a truth that on the face of it seems wrong. I recall moments of conversations I have had with people I have no recollection of meeting. I see images of buildings that I have never seen, yet I know the shape. Sometimes, I will know what the caller is about to say the second before they say it. Now, understand me: this is not Deja Vu. This is something that I know, in my gut, is truth - just not the truth of my present, or of this history. I... hmmm... how can I explain? I recall, very clearly, that the Merida quake happened on March 15th 2049. That date is precise and clear in my mind - and it's wrong. The quake happened in April, It's in all the papers, all of the reports, all of the books. The great Merida quake... of April, 2049. I even know what I was doing on the day it happened, and that day was in April, but in my gut, I know it happened in March. I can SEE it. Is there anyone else out there experiencing something similar? Are some things different as you remember them? Tell me I'm not alone in this. Something... has changed. You know the number. Call.

[honest summit]

Frostty got consumed by a Shaeffer rabbit hole

Shaeffers Hole?

[slow night]

he is actually experiencing multiple worldines

[royal crow]

Frostty is loosing it

[slow night]

the altername universe where GTFO lore makes complete sense

[past vessel]

the big refinery machines are omneco

so i found their concrete mixers and now the big refinery machines

[eternal talon]

the gas masks don't have condensation...

(if you've worn gas masks before, you'd know this is something basically impossible to avoid)

[honest summit]

i have worn them, and there are some models that are build to avoid it

[eternal talon]

not avoid it, but minimize it.

it'd be cold af down in the complex.

it should be fogging like crazy

[honest summit]

some of them have the mouth and visor seperated, so none of your breath reaches your face

[eternal talon]

true, but how much do you wanna bet that for mask models?

[honest summit]

looking at his face it looks like he has an additional cloth piece under the mask, so depending on how the mask looks like from the inside it could be more skintight

[honest summit]

explain yourself

[honest summit]

this one is just video game logic lmao

[eternal talon]

also wood's mask doesn't look like it has any gap. you can practically see his nose

[honest summit]

maybe he is a mouth breather

but yeah i see your point

[eternal talon]

no explination for the wierd glowy cables

[honest summit]

its not cables that are glowing

its the cable going throught the water texture

and the gap being see through

[eternal talon]

that's honestly dissapointing

one less weird collector thing that we actually get to see.

[honest summit]

where was that first pic rock_

[eternal talon]

r6b1.

[honest summit]

i dont think its in alt

[eternal talon]

teleport then turn around.

it is

and they ruined it

[eternal talon]

textures obliterated

compared to og

[slow night]

the glowsticks have breached containment

[eternal talon]

its a carved sandstone circle

no other info but it looks neat

the other images are sandstone bridges in r6c1

i think r7 has a couple bridges too in warp areas

[honest summit]

its called "Cliff_landingArea" so its just a rock that we got matterwaved onto

maybe thats why we get the wave pattern on it

[eternal talon]

not this argument again...

1: the pattern doesn't match
2: every other warp in the game doesn't have it

back during ogr6 this was a heated topic of argument

back before the collectors were officially confirmed to exist.

even back in OG, i'll admit it is a very similar shape, but it is missing the entire middle bit.

the biggest point against it is that every other warp in the game that uses a teleporter doesn't leave any inprint whatsoever

also we aren't supposed to use names/such in code.

the kraken is called squidward.

[honest summit]

just looked it up, they did render the entire thing. They just closed it so you cant escape LMAO

[eternal talon]

hm? what's the context? i can't click the message because the user is blocked.

[queen gazelle]

are we literally missing the botton part?

in this image

maYBE

second off it isnt rending then it is they want you to see the revel

[honest summit]

yeah it was not captured in that screenshot

[past vessel]

What other items of the collectors do we have? I want to update their page too

[queen gazelle]

crazy

[eternal talon]

the mwp, the data cubes, the artifacts,

the ship/vessel,

the unnamed weapon system that caused the blast,

some form of stasis units, given hammerstein was finding intact specimens in the ship

[queen gazelle]

the context is because r6d1 boss arena is blocked off in r6c1 this is a dev oversight unless sleepers clean the area

[eternal talon]

This week I drew the conclusion that the lifeforms we have been finding do not appear to come from the same evolutionary tree. Indeed, many of them appear to have at least partially evolved in drastically different environments, though there is clearly a commonality in the mutations they all share. There is no indication that the artifacts and objects we have found within the fossil were designed for use by any of the creatures, so quite how they ended up there is still a mystery. The bizarre disappearance of the equipment while working on Artifact 13 suggests some method of transformation or even transportation beyond our current understanding. As such, the origin of these creatures remains a mystery - but they come from different places. Different planets? Universes? I am confident I will unravel the mystery, but my impatience for understanding is overwhelming!

[eternal talon]

or they just didn't want to use an invisible wall...

[past vessel]

The area is called “The Inner”, the ship is contained within an “Egg” but the preferred name is “Fossil”, and we know there is a lot of organic biomass down there (ultimately creeping back up through the complex). Do I have that right

[queen gazelle]

also based point

[eternal talon]

the mwp is artifact 13, so barring the 6 data cubes, that is 6 other unknown hammerstein collection artifacts

[honest summit]

omg there is a hole in it

[eternal talon]

the ship is the egg.

the inner is the upper level/layers of the vessel

i dont know if you want to count rooms as objects/items

[past vessel]

I likely wouldnt

[eternal talon]

annoyance.
**I have ordered any objects found within the Inner to remain in situ for the time being. It is my responsibility to establish protocols for all future explorations, so we will start as if we were freshmen archeologists, shifting soil for the first time. We will organize and classify first, then once more is known we shall consider excavation, removal, and transportation. As I believe any artifacts we find will be [redacted], we will need to stay alert to the possibility of [redacted].

We have established a new catalogue for this work. My staff suggested we call it the Hammerstein Collection. It seems as good a choice as any.

The following reports offer further insight into this enigma:

[redacted]
[redacted]
[redacted]

Dr. Gallus Hammerstein
Project Insight Lead Researcher & Co-founder.**

[eternal talon]

also:
**
These locations are collectively known as "the Inner". This area has a separate classification due to evidence of geologic compacting and sedimentary settling. This implies an ancient impact or explosion. You may read my report titled [redacted] for further information on those findings.**

[eternal talon]

error in this message: mwp is artifact 7. one of the data cubes is artifact 13.

or... no?

its called the "data block"
**I just caught sight of a preliminary report on the item they're calling the Data Block - artifact 13 of the Hammerstein Collection **

i dont know if that has any meaning

ah
We initiated a jump with the Matter Wave Projector but with the different configurations of the Data Blocks; they are navigation blocks. I don’t know how we can figure out where they go to without actually going there ourselves, but at least we know.

they are just called both cubes and blocks

[honest summit]

wow. you really can get out of that box that easily

i hate qwerty having y and z swapped

[eternal talon]

There is no indication that the artifacts and objects we have found within the fossil were designed for use by any of the creatures, so quite how they ended up there is still a mystery. The bizarre disappearance of the equipment while working on Artifact 13 suggests some method of transformation or even transportation beyond our current understanding.

we don't really have a lot of info... i'm finding.

@past vessel
confirmed:

• at least 13 artifacts in the hammerstein collection. The MWP, and 6 Data Cubes.
• an uncountable number of smaller artifacts (in game collectables)
• the ship/vessel itself.
• the weapons system that created the blast.
• some form of long term storage or preservation system to house species that hammerstein goes on to find and stuff with formaldehyde.

unconfirmed:

• a number of sandstone bridges found on destination -- likely
• the r6b1 sandstone circle -- debated, not enough info

[past vessel]

Thank you

I will have to check out R6B1 in dim0 and dim1

[eternal talon]

what is dim0 and dim1?

[past vessel]

index of dimensions in a level as they are defined in unity, we always start in dim0 and every teleport to a new area is a different dimension but does not necessarily correspond to an actual different dimension lorewise or gameplay

R8B2 has a lot of dims

R6D4 too

In the latter I think those actually are different ones though

[eternal talon]

the main disagreement with the sandstone sphere is:

it greatly resembles the teleport circle
it appears in no other place in the game

(and we teleport far more than once)

personally i don't think it looks the same, but there is a back and forth

[past vessel]

When the logs mention formaldehyde specimens, I’m fairly lead to assume those are referring to the glass tubes found throughout labs environment

[eternal talon]

you'd think, but those only have humanoid sleepers.

there are tumors and stuff -- blobs of flesh,

but i'd argue those wouldn't be what he is referring to when he calls them lifeforms

[past vessel]

That one almost resembles a spitter

[past vessel]

Do you use cconsole btw?

[eternal talon]

i have, yeah

[past vessel]

Press F1

[eternal talon]

i'm not in the game

[past vessel]

oh

[eternal talon]

i don't even have it installed

ah! @past vessel
**>>ENC: [Corrupted] report of Dr. Gallus Hammers%%in, lead researcher and co-founder of Project Insight. I have authorized expeditions #(= _he following zones 3Q the vessel:

The location catalogued as "The Gallery"
The location catalogued as "The Bridge"

These locations are collectively part of what I am calling "the Inner". This area has a separate classification due to evidence of geologic compacting and sedimentary settling. This implies an ancient impact or explosion. You may read my report titled "Life From Beyond" for further information on those findings.**

[past vessel]

Wait we got the actual report name?

[eternal talon]

alt://r6 MQQ-792-B8L

more information

Hearsay on. This is Dr. Stokes. I umm... I have some thoughts on artifacts 13, 14 and 17.

up to 17 artifacts, now

i'm going log by log with CTRL+F

its weird they describe all of the corridors and chambers within the vessel as looking like "lava tunnels"

i'd think it'd be more obvious that what they are dealing with is verifiably alien

The silicon resin does temporarily block the jump defect, so that has helped. It decays pretty quickly as the Cretasium eats through it, but it means we actually can touch the artifacts at least. cretasium-77a is corrosive

[past vessel]

That’s an in-universe new element/material isotope

[eternal talon]

yeah

its what the ship and the artifacts are made of

a portion of them, anyway

[past vessel]

fascinating, I didn’t know we had the un-redacted version of that log

[severe fulcrum]

do we know how corrosive it is more exactly

it goes through silicon resin, propably doesn't REALLY through rock

[honest summit]

If it eats through Siliconresin designed to Withstand corrosion, then rock wont stand a chance

[severe fulcrum]

I mean isn't that what the vessel hull's made of

that's "sunken" in rock

[honest summit]

I dont have the Log at Hand, but its only coated with it

Artifacts are cretasium in pure Form tho

(maybe, who knows alien technology and stuff)

[eternal talon]

**cretasium 77a: 38.60%
oxygen: 27.34%
silicon: 12.12%
aluminum: 5.13%
iridium: 3.32%
sodium: 3.26%
calcium: 2.57%
potassium: 2.10%
magnesium: 2.03%
titanium: 1.14%
hydrogen: 0.93%
phosphorous: 0.77%
carbon: 0.54%

+trace strontium, barium, manganese, fluorine, sulfur, zirconium, tungsten, chlorine, copper, nickel, nitrogen, zinc.**

[copper pine]

This feels like reading nutricional facts on a Cola bottle

[eternal talon]

and yet

[severe fulcrum]

just toss everything in there

we making a mineral soup in this bich

anyways so the cretasium doesn't actually contact the rock, but is inside a layer of iridium.. which is known for not really reacting and being resistamt to heat iirc

cretasium could in fact corode regular rock do excuse me

[eternal talon]

pre-apocalypse Dauda be like: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1IA4HSAAycA

[nimble saddle]

what is this log about?

[past vessel]

The Collectors. I am unsure though if it's a Collector itself or it possessing a Conduit/Unit.

@eternal talon

[nimble saddle]

interesting

I'm browsing the logs and just wondering

[severe fulcrum]

it's about the conduits most likely

described as frail and talking in a detached manner

[eternal talon]

It is a conduit/unit.

If you recall the alt://r6 log where a version of our quad encounters the conduit and ends up with dauda and woods dead, that conduit also had a strange interaction with the nearby sleepers.

[past vessel]

it's dauda and bishop iirc

can go check R6CX real quick

[eternal talon]

I can never remember between the two.

Anyway, that log is where the whole "mimic" name came from before we knew what it was/when it was officially named in r6 extended.

Another fun fact, originally in r6 extended, it was called "subject" but was later patched and changed to "unit"

I know because I cleared it day 1 for the log hunt back when that was a thing

If we wanna talk about what the collectors look like (probably), I'd point to the edgar/teale creature log and the alien autopsy that kovac covered up.

Both describe a creature we've never encountered before.

[past vessel]

which log is that one

[eternal talon]

I don't remember it's ID.

CTRL + F in the list of original worldline logs.

Search for the word "autopsy"

The other one, I don't remember any specific keywords that'd help you find it faster. I guess just search for the word "edgar". It took place down in digsite.

[eternal talon]

It's terribly sad what alt://r6 does to a person. They're missing the entire lead up to r7 and my favorite audio log in the entire game.

(The r6dx log where schaeffer beats the ever loving shit out of the conduit with a lead pipe and it screams like a baby)

WAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's fucking hilarious

[past vessel]

It was practice for Klas

[eternal talon]

Also, given the context of the mission, that happens in real time and we just barely miss encountering schaeffer

He even leaves his pipe behind

[past vessel]

in OG R6DX?

[eternal talon]

Yes.

It isn't on a terminal. It was one of those audio logs that was forced to play mid mission.

Immediately after, warden updates our stack to check on the status of unit 22

Where we find it dead

[past vessel]

OG Schaeffer and lead pipes name a better duo

[eternal talon]

leadpipe.mp3

[past vessel]

does it play after teleporting back or before

[eternal talon]

Oh, no, it's just the meme.

If you are talking about the log, after teleporting back from the staircase of hell

Checking on u22 is the last thing before extract

[past vessel]

So in ALT what happened then

[eternal talon]

I don't remember. I played through alt://r6 exactly once.

Given alt://r6d1... I have no clue how they'd connect/justify verifying the status of u22

Because u22 isn't dead? Or...

It hurts my brain just thinking about it.

That unit died a loooong time ago

I don't remember if its designation is u22 or not in the warden.objective on hud.

If it is, we don't know the designation of the alt://r6d1 conduit.

I'm assuming for gameplay reasons, the staircase of death and such is the same in r6dx (now r6cx)

I'm going to go with the lazy answer and there is no explanation and you just do it...

But I don't remember

[past vessel]

ALT R6CX is Unit 27

[eternal talon]

R7 is u23.

[past vessel]

(just posting for posterity)

[eternal talon]

Alt warden built a lot more of those fucks it would seem.

[past vessel]

U22 - OG R6D1, R6DX
U23 - R7A1
U27 - ALT R6D1, R6CX

is that right

[eternal talon]

I know alt://r6 also removed pretty much all of the forced audio logs

[past vessel]

ALT R6 lacks SO MUCH because of none of the forced audio logs

because the levels are so similar, it ends up feeling more empty

but there's supposed to be dialogue playing

[eternal talon]

As best as we can say... but... because of the gap between 22 and 27, we can't say for certain that alt://r6d1's unit is 22 now.

[eternal talon]

And yet that's what the community WANTED

It's crazy how much people complained

Us who care about the lore/story are a minority

If you think I'm crazy, you can search function it in the discord. There was tremendous outcry for the logs "slowing down gameplay" and being "annoying and repetitive"

Particularly r7a1 gets a ton of flack

[past vessel]

I only give R7A1 flack because of the dead pixel

[eternal talon]

If r7 was alt://ified, it likely would have shared the same fate

[past vessel]

it's an A tier

it is made more interesting via dialogue plain and simple

just look at OG R5A3

none of those voice lines play anymore in ALT

yet they are incredibly important

[eternal talon]

Most were moved to terminal logs, and some where deleted entirely.

Also FYI the santonian industries website is still dead.

I mentioned it to the devs in a stream a couple months ago, and it seems at this point it's never going to be fixed

Our archives are the only bastion for that old lore.

[past vessel]

yep

[eternal talon]

I still remember, my favorite goose chase in regards to gtfo lore, (even though it was a dead end), was digging through the Chilam Balam de Ixil

An ancient mayan era medical document translated from colonial era Spanish

I remember when we first got the coords to destination, that originally we thought they pointed to the mid-atlantic ridge, and were talking about ships and ocean platforms.

I have so many cool lore related memories

And yet we are a niche within the niche of gtfo

I had lots of long conversations (and often arguments) with Daraxus about the sky on Destination, the sun, the moon, the stars... all things to try and pull small nuggets of information via math or other science.

I genuinely have spent hours on the destination tiles, particularly r6b1, just exploring every inch.

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-zzz-bangboo-gif-3247399184044375068

The plants, most closely resembling the Syrian Thistle, here on earth,

You can draw so much information from the stone

Over the years, I've seen many many faces. I've outlasted them all.

It's a shame more people aren't as fascinated by gtfo's multiverse

[past vessel]

how about ALT R6B1 where you can't make out what the landing area is anymore

[eternal talon]

Hm?

Once or twice. Whatever they did to it is truly awful

I don't know how every iteration they somehow make the game look worse

Genuinely—look back at old r1 and r2 footage from og.

The old lighting engine was genuinely gorgeous

That went away ~ogr6

There are some comparison photos...

#gtfo-lore message

#gtfo-lore message

@past vessel something about R6, we leave the MWP in the machine in r6b1 when we get chased to extract by floaters. We suddenly have the device again in r6d1. It's highly likely (though unconfirmed so take this as you will) that us in r6c3 are serving as a distraction so another team can go get the mwp that we left behind.

We leave it behind again in r6d1, but an indeterminate amount of time passes between r6 and r7

Oddly enough, in r7 we find it in a random storage zone completely flooded with sleepers, including a mother

How the fuck did it get there?

[past vessel]

In R7 the MWP is just randomly on a shelf in R7C2 Sec yep

and then in R8 OG side, the MWP is just dropped off with us in R8E2

On the ALT side, the MWP goes from R6D1 -> R8A1

because R7 never happens for them

Is there only ever 1 MWP per timeline?

[eternal talon]

As far as we know, yeah

But r8 is 🍝 so there could be multiple

[past vessel]

R6B1: 789m
R6D1: 1080m
R7C2: 920m
R6C3: 1194m
R8A1: 1254m (Same as R8A2, R8D2)
R8A2: 1254m (Same as R8A1, R8D2)
R8D2: 1254m (Same as R8A1, R8A2)

So after R6B1 at a depth of 789m us at 1194m is providing a distraction for the other team

Man we must have alerted so much

[eternal talon]

Eh, it's just a theory.

We don't really know how we reacquire the mwp

[past vessel]

Or what the heck it's doing in R7C2

[eternal talon]

We don't encounter floaters before r6b1

It's reasonable to assume for that entire time the complex is being flooded with them, and that is the source of them for all future expeditions

Until someone goes and gets it and closes the warp gate

Maybe the warden didn't want that team to deal with both floaters and humanoid sleepers?

[past vessel]

the jump gate in R6B1 leads to Alpha Two, which is also visited in R7E1 via not a Jump Gate, but that has to happen after R7C2 which is Alpha Six

[eternal talon]

Idk

Also keep in mind the time scale.

R7e1 is years after r6b1

(85 X 1)

There are a lot of expeditions between r6b1 and r7e1

You could probably math out a minimum.

Averaging 1 hour per expedition X total number of expeditions

Take that sum and X 85

[past vessel]

I guess I haven't really thought about the time scale of how much time passes exactly from R1A1 to R8E2

[eternal talon]

How many expeditions are there between r6b1 and r7e1?

[past vessel]

21 including those 2 expeditions themselves, so 19 other expeditions between

[eternal talon]

That's 1,785 hours, assuming we instantly teleport from one expedition to the next, with zero time in hydrostasis

That's ~ two and a half months

[past vessel]

I'm not sure I follow

[eternal talon]

According to stokes, there is a time differential between the og worldline and destination.

Destination, the universe, is 85 times faster

Like, just the basic rate of time

If 1 hour passes on earth, 85 hours pass on destination

While we are doing all these expeditions in the complex on earth, a LOT of time is passing on destination

I'm saying it's possible the source of the floaters is long gone by the time of r7e1

Like with the kraken boss fight, there are shit tons of floaters

It's possible they move together in herds

The population around r6b1 at the time of the jump could be whole continents away by the time of r7e1

[past vessel]

now i follow

[eternal talon]

This is sort of supported by r8, where we find four krakens together at alpha three

[past vessel]

I'd say it's a couple of months yeah minimum, but not incredible amounts of time given that Alpha Two hasn't been buried yet by sand unlike Alpha Six

[eternal talon]

Alternatively; sandstorms taller than mountains

Destination weather is weird

[past vessel]

We do see one in R6A1 I think

[eternal talon]

(sandstorm in alt://)

[eternal talon]

If you had to spend 24 hours in the complex, where would you spend it?

[past vessel]

Storage or Labs, they have the best ventilation systems overall

R7C2 confuses me a lot. The MWP in that mission is also found in random locations. There are also no corpses in the level except in Overload, where there are many, many corpses.

And not only do we find the MWP in a random location here, we proceed to leave it inside the Warp Gate (I have since seen that is the official term for it)

[loud urchin]

maybe r8d2 secondary, in the room with the bulkhead key (if no fog)

small cosy room with plants and resources

safe behind a sec door

[sacred maple]

I kinda just assumed that the warden sends down another team to retrieve it eventually which is how we find it in rundown 8 but its a little odd

[past vessel]

Assuming there is indeed only 1 MWP, yeah it's all fine until R7C2 where you find it just in a random area

the mental fill in I'm having to do feels wack to make that one feel plausible about why it is there

[raw terrace]

the sleepers carried it :3

[sacred maple]

My other guess would just be that it occasionally warps to a random location in the complex, we know the data cubes have caused uncontrolled warping so maybe the MWP sometimes warps

It's a bit of a duct tape lore solution but other than that I'd have no idea how it ends up in r7c2

[past vessel]

I think I'd have to settle for something like that as well, since there are absolutely no bodies in Sec and the sector is largely out of power until Woods and crew arrive

the mission is a gen cluster

[royal crow]

Maybe the Warden sent a team to place it for us to go, pick it up and travel to destination since we have a better chance at survival?

[past vessel]

and that warp gate wasn't working

[past vessel]

Odd place to put it instead of just having us drop with it, but then again it's never the case where we drop with an objective item meant for not Main

we know if possible, all optional sectors are canon

[sacred maple]

Has the warden ever cancelled an objective without completing it? Like a "just drop it and leave its not worth it"?

Something like that could explain it being in a random location: team comes down with it, ventilation breaks and the fog is toxic, warden tells them to leave it behind to not lose the assets

[past vessel]

I think R6CX when it deviates from the uplinks to check on the status of Unit 22(OG) and Unit 27(ALT)

after returning to Complex

also throughout R8 the objective stack is shown to be able to be overwritten repeatedly, such as R8B4 and R8C2

[eternal talon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a reactor expedition in r4 where the warden fucks up and we had to extract early?

I vaguely remember someone mentioning something along those lines

[past vessel]

R4B1 Sec, R4D1 Main, R4E1 Sec

might be R5D2?

the ending of R5D2 has prisoners swiftly run and escape

[eternal talon]

Unfortunately I don't remember the expedition

[loud urchin]

r5d2 yea

the level called error where the 4th wave overloads and you get 10min to input a code given to you before running to extract

[eternal talon]

What is the specific text?

[loud urchin]

idk look up t-nenpi on youtube or something i'm simply on break at work 🕯️

[honest summit]

"Error Critical malfunction - sequence terminated" "Spector lost" "Massive Bio readings approaching"

The reactor itself was completed, but the Spector Has been overrun by the sleepers

[eternal talon]

Hypothetical: You are an engineer working for Santonian. It is November 2056. You and your crew of six miners are trapped in the lower levels of Garganta and your only method of escape has been blocked by a massive cave-in. The Bore-Drill you were in charge of is functional, albeit without sufficient fuel or space to use it to clear a path out of the trapped area. Through the cave-in, there is a small gap near the top which allows air flow. You to this point have sent one miner out to get help, but they have not returned. The trapped area contains six Dig-Site zones, a Storage zone, and a small checkpoint that was at some point held by KSOs against oncoming sleepers, but was seemingly overwhelmed and overrun. The checkpoint contains no arms nor ammunition. Morale is quickly sinking. What is your plan of action and what do you do?

[royal crow]

I kill myself

I'm dead anyways

The complex is a death trap

[ionic dune]

C. Deathwish

[loud urchin]

pinch myself and wake up 'cause that shit isn't real

[severe fulcrum]

on that note there was this log which said that there was a guy who just walked into a spinning drillhead

what was that about

[royal crow]

The virus causing hallucinations

In the other universe it wasn't a drill head but acid instead

[severe fulcrum]

oh so there's an og and alt vers

or is it of another universe

can't even remember which it was

okay somewhere in 5

[severe fulcrum]

for og it's 5C3EXT and for alt it's 5D2

[ionic dune]

Yes

They’re different

[royal crow]

Yes

Alt and OG worldlines have different logs and "story"

[unkempt marsh]

well, realistically, nothing

even if sufficient fuel was found during any expedition, I assume that the sounds/vibrations emitted by drilling would wake up any sleepers in quite a large radius

with no arms and munitions, doom

[past vessel]

Something I don't see in The Complex in Digsite are Rescue Chambers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_rescue_chamber

I first learned about them when playing Dead Space 2 in the Titan Mines, their digsites have them

they are are sealed with a secure bulkhead, have air filtration system with a local gen, food, lavatory, bunk beds, comms, small recreation corner

They aren't permanent shelters, but are used for exactly this purpose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Copiapó_mining_accident#Accident

This is the longest real life equivalent of one of these incidents, and they were indeed using one such shelter considering they were down there for 69 days

[eternal talon]

that's a very good point...

do you think that could be something like what they (our quad) were cutting into in the old game awards trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vSYJckIfi8

[eternal talon]

After three years, lawsuits and investigations into the collapse concluded in August 2013 with no charges filed.[11]
Checks out... fuck capitalism.

[warm bronze]

did they take down santonianindustries.com or am I getting the url wrong 🥺

[raw terrace]

websites been down yes

[warm bronze]

I'm going to ugly sob ty

[raw terrace]

:[

[warm bronze]

any idea when it went down?

[honest summit]

This is the closest we have

Hold on

Wrong one

This one

[warm bronze]

yeah the way back machine isn't able to bring it back because it required flash, that's what I've been told

[honest summit]

Yeah unfortunately

[warm bronze]

really sad :( the website was such a cool thing to me

especially since it was made by Bishop ...

ty for the help and the info 😮‍💨

[past vessel]

Unsure... it looks like they're going back through the door at the very end of the trailer and that's when they get grabbed by an OG Snatcher in a reinforced tunnel. That tunnel is notably more reinforced than what is ever seen in Digsite however

https://youtu.be/imnw3UcDN84?si=hrOAk16L2iQ7L67h&t=993

This is the Rescue Chamber, referred to as a Survival Chamber in-game, during Chapter 11 of Dead Space 2 (timestamped)

10:50 timestamp has you open a door and hear a PA announcement describing them. These ones are pretty small, they can be far more sizeable akin to a bunker

if you wanna compare that to the trailer

[royal crow]

DEAD SPACE MENTIONED

[honest summit]

I would Imagine it being the old Version of the bulkhead door, since the shots before were taking in Zone 77 Just for Hackett to be snatched in Zone 95

[royal crow]

ABSOLUTE CINEMA

[past vessel]

I am a Dead Space loremaster, part of why I got into GTFO

It’s quite an adjacent aesthetic

[honest summit]

Say, are the books Worth the read? I was thinking about getting them

[past vessel]

Ehhh yes and no

The author of Martyr in particular wrote the book in a period where several lore inconsistencies exist within their book and rules that are established in further media and that is because it was made between Dead Space 1 and Dead Space 2 before a lot of the evolution of many core elements were more established and the wiki even mentions this

Otherwise I’d say yeah reasonably they are, because the others do follow those rules and Dead Space Liberation is effectively Dead Space 2.5 and I wish Dead Space 3 had that level of depth to the characters

If you’re OK with that about Martyr though I say go for it

Salvage as well gives context for Dead Space 2 Severed

I resent the Magpies never being brought up or seen again

[past vessel]

In the dead space universe as well… this book takes place at the same area in the center of the chicxulub crater as The Complex is

[warm bronze]

I have another quick question! I swear I remember one of the operative commands ("Operative, do you want to complete the mission?" etc etc) was specifically like "Operative, state your name and designation." or something close but can't seem to find it anywhere. did I make that up? if not, can you point me to what log/rundown/mission it's from?

[copper pine]

Its r7

[raw terrace]

r7c1

[copper pine]

R7c1

[raw terrace]

one of the dialogues of chafi

iits proobs on the wiki for log pages

[warm bronze]

yes it is I feel silly cuz I forgot there were more Schaeffer moments in c1 😭 it's been a while tysm <3

[copper pine]

Interesting status you have there

[warm bronze]

LMAO tis from invincible

ty

[raw terrace]

seen way worse

[copper pine]

I mean its cecil

In invincible they need him as much as we prisoners need big scout

[warm bronze]

unsure if im misunderstanding what you meant but its actually from this machinehead scene https://youtu.be/DME86-QucsA?si=uYhf_nrcj6cRcJ7E

[royal crow]

You mean [title card]?

[warm bronze]

so true...

[past vessel]

@eternal talon Do we know if there are other KSOs operating throughout the Complex prior to Woods and quad reaching KDS Deep

[royal crow]

We know a lot of them were holding in different areas through the complex

[past vessel]

reason I'm asking is because of R5C2 Overload, check this

Objective Stack + the Terminal Command description

we never, ever visit a Z100 beyond R4 iirc

[royal crow]

Oh wait

You meant KDS Deep as in R5E1? Or KDS Deep as in prior to GTFO main events?

[past vessel]

KDS Deep as in R5E1

obviously, Schaeffer's quad is dead except for him

[royal crow]

Your answer is in R5B4 "diversion"
In there the Warden uses us as a diversion so other team can do whatever they are doing

And R2C2 as well where a team went rogue and the Warden activated the alarm system causing the error we deal with

The Warden has a lot of other teams at all times but we are the ones he sends to get things done

[past vessel]

OH you’re so right

Thank you

[eternal talon]

https://youtu.be/OVh0bMNSFss?si=5TJdgbm0Z7E8pCFy

[ionic dune]

So wait warden has a lot of pubs but the true squad we all have is the ones that get it done

[eternal talon]

All expeditions, All optionals, First try, No deaths.

[eternal talon]

intercepted communications.

the only time we canonically play as "our" KSO is in the eval.

a Tau designation.

(isn't dauda because this KSO is white)

(and dauda isn't michael jackson)

[ionic dune]

Id pay to hear dauda have Michael Jackson voicelines

[eternal talon]

there is also the "Sigma" generation of KSOs, but they aren't playable.

[royal crow]

SIGMA?

[ionic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/emojedie-gif-22495013

[eternal talon]

**D-Lock Block Cipher

Sender: Ellis Carnegie
Receiver: Angela Klein A106
Date: June 8th 2052
Subject: Behavioral anomalies among Sigma gen

Ms. Klein,

I recommend only using Tau gen until we have fully investigated the
issue with Sigma gen. The Pretoria lab is running some tests on our
GOs and our remaining Sigmas to isolate the behaviors you mentioned.
A few questions:

1. Can you send photos of the self-harm you indicated with 0-2056?
   We need to confirm if the scarring is indiscriminate or
   definitely religious. Our records show this operative has
   exhibited similar behavior before, despite multiple resets.

2. The head banging behavior is known in toddlers, but we did not
   see that behavior in any of the Genesis Operatives. Does it start
   immediately after resuscitation, or after some period of time? I
   would like video evidence for the records and a more detailed
   report please.

3. Can you send me a list of the operatives you marked as faulty and
   sent to recycling? We track both organ and tissue stocks here so
   we can trace the history should we need it.

Ellis Carnegie

Kovac Research, Pretoria**

[royal crow]

SKIBIDI SIGMA GYATT

[ionic dune]

The brainrot

[eternal talon]

i've also just noticed an error

@past vessel

second image is from the official gtfo website.

[raw terrace]

maybs its not himm

[past vessel]

which page

[eternal talon]

ogr5.

https://gtfo.wiki.gg/wiki/Rundown_005_Logs

[ionic dune]

Smh ghostly

[eternal talon]

lots of people work on the wiki, not just mire.

no clue how long it has been there.

[ionic dune]

So true actually

But ghostly should’ve caught it, he’s responsible for every error

[eternal talon]

damn, get the pipe

[past vessel]

fixed

[ionic dune]

Time to bite the curb ghostly

[warm bronze]

tyyyy

[eternal talon]

i get around to every question eventually

i just happened to remember it

[warm bronze]

Well I have another one haha. for r8d2, I haven

oops

i havent been able to find all of the lines during the end bit, ive heard different things are said depending on when u enter the terminal command

[ionic dune]

Omg… like your name?

[warm bronze]

SO TRUE!

oopsie made an oopsie

[eternal talon]

i know this was a teaser for the snatcher in r7, but why are the tendrils so different?

[warm bronze]

its freaky and I hate it

[eternal talon]

lol don't look into the scouts then

their tendrils are way worse

[royal crow]

Smash

[eternal talon]

@past vessel now thinking about that log, i wonder if/wherelse it refers to woods as O-2056?

since iirc he was always faulty

because i know Hackett is O.

Dauda is Tau, Bishop is Genesis, Woods is Faulty... what does O stand for again?

omega?

i'm not finding anything via search function

[warm bronze]

i disagree

[eternal talon]

maybe the log is a mistake and meant to reference bishop? because the next paragraph talks about genesis

and genesis is "GO"

not just "O"

[warm bronze]

isnt hackett O-4711

[eternal talon]

calle might be needed for this.

[eternal talon]

**### Entry: Gallus Capreolatus
Name options:

• Capreolatus
• Cirrhus
• Pampinarii
• Clavicula
  Discuss tendril hypotheses :
• diphyllobothrium latum mimicry?
• siphonophore/zooids theory
• NEED DNA SAMPLE
  **
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphyllobothrium

tapeworms.

[warm bronze]

interestingg

[ionic dune]

But it’s like

[royal crow]

Smash

[ionic dune]

Non parasitic tapeworms

At least not to us

Maybe to the scout

[eternal talon]

is O meant to represent Sigma?
that'd be stupid af... but im not sure.

[warm bronze]

that was my old guess

cuz woods was O before he was marked as faulty

[eternal talon]

was he?

[warm bronze]

56hf2.log talks about weird behavior in sigma gen operatives, O-2056 specifically displaying religious self harm which, its woods and his number is 2056 so thats very unlikely to be a coincidence imo

[eternal talon]

ah, then this version of the same log DOESNT say O-2056, it says "Operative 2056"
Can you send photos of the self-harm you indicated with operative 2056? We need to confirm if the scarring is indiscriminate or definitely religious. Our records show this operative has exhibited similar behavior before, despite multiple resets.

(the alt://r5 version)

We need to confirm if the scarring is indiscriminate or definitely religious. okay, def woods...

[warm bronze]

yeah

[eternal talon]

but why O?

he is definitively F

[warm bronze]

well any gen can be faulty i feel

but it seems sigma gens r more likely to be

[eternal talon]

yeah, thats what i was reading before, but i'm not sure--

[eternal talon]

--yes.

faulty designations were given to KSOs in two circumstances...

those being the operative being too exposed to nam-v, and being set to be stored for organ transplants/harvesting,

and being a legion program reject

but stored for some reason rather than just being shot

the question iiiiiiiisssss.... when did woods go from O to F?

[ionic dune]

Wouldn’t organ transplants transmit nam-v to new host?

[warm bronze]

i always assumed that woods was marked as faulty because he still believes in god despite multiple resets but he does complete his missions so they still used him

[eternal talon]

yes.
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[warm bronze]

man I feel like we have the answer to this somewhere but i have no idea

[royal crow]

If God made me see the future I would believe on him even after a memory wipe lol

[royal crow]

Holy shit

[ionic dune]

Average complex moment

[royal crow]

Is that Vergil from the Devil May Cry series?

The Storm that is approaching?

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-dance-fortnite-meme-foolishness-gif-14294871

[ionic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416907525460590593/1409682042085703823/tankbussy.gif

[eternal talon]

that was my thought proccess too...

him being rejected, then stored somewhere, only for the warden (not kds) to find a use for him in our quad

[warm bronze]

yeah

sometimes I imagine that shit went wild as soon as woods what marked faulty cuz god was like "wait dont harvest his organs" /j

"that ones mine dont do that"

[eternal talon]

**I'm worried if we don't solve this issue we may end up with a failure cascade. These HSUs are all F/Infected classification so I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world if we lost the meat, but the freezers may come in handy someday - or at least we may end up needing them as Deep backups or organ donations etc.

LMK**

[ionic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

[eternal talon]

big brain, isn't it?

there are many instances like that in the logs.

[ionic dune]

Complex workers seem insane sometimes ngl

[warm bronze]

sometimes?

[royal crow]

sometimes lol

[eternal talon]

**In response to multiple complaints about wearing masks, we are not mandating their use. If you elect not to wear a mask, please exercise common sense (cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze, keep a reasonable distance etc.) Your choice in this matter will be recorded in your personnel file.

Dean Lockwood
Acting Project Manager**

(2053, after anders, the previous ceo, gets laser'd)

[ionic dune]

Sometimes being like 90% of the time

[warm bronze]

real

[ionic dune]

Sounds like Covid ngl

[royal crow]

@eternal talon will you try Destiny Rising tomorrow?

[warm bronze]

this is random but you mention anders and im very curious after relistening to the alternate logs recently: hackett says "They're not gonna let me out with everything I know about Anders." do we know what he knew

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-no-no-40k-gif-24271093

[eternal talon]

which rundown?

[warm bronze]

r5a3

[eternal talon]

but if i had to make a quick guess--probably the same thing that drew kovac to garganta.

the flamethrower-ing of the red cross workers.

[warm bronze]

okay yeah that makes sense

[eternal talon]

oh. I killed twenty-three innocent people in that village, and the only reason I'm not rotting away in a jail cell is because it's bad for fucking business. Look, I know I'm fucked in the head. I want out, and there's no way Kovac's going to let me out with what I done, and what I know about Anderson. I'm not doing this shit anymore. I’ve already tried to call last orders on myself and I couldn't pull the trigger, so come on, let’s go, let's get this done.

the ceo was "Anders Johanson".
i'd say i think it's a typo, but it's an audio log... i have no clue who anderson is.

10cc fucking up paid VA is... less likely.

okay, i think i got confused... the CEO of smc is andrew clinton.

still, no clue what is up with this audio log

or who anderson is

anders johanson is the ceo of KDS

[warm bronze]

let me check i remember an anderson

i have a binder of gtfo lore im super normal

[eternal talon]

its a lot.

[ionic dune]

Very normal

[eternal talon]

normal for a gtfo lore fanatic

i have well over a gb of stuff at this point

[warm bronze]

its like old notes from probs when the alts were still releasing but yknow

[royal crow]

Uncle GTFO player

[ionic dune]

📠

[eternal talon]

i have more.

i've made tons of stuff

[warm bronze]

i didnt start playing the game until 22 or so cuz i didnt own a computer but i loved this game since the ea release in 2020

[eternal talon]

i just wait for the opportune times to use them

[ionic dune]

I didn’t play until feb this year

[eternal talon]

i've been playing on and off since ogr1 in 2019.

most of the time i spent in the actual game was digging like a raccoon for lore

[warm bronze]

no yeah he definitely says anderson and I cant find anything . weird

[ionic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-gif-2067421587001062737

[eternal talon]

you think i jest, but these are my ogr6 completions. most of those b1 runs were entirely solo, just spending hours inspecting every pixel on destination.

[ionic dune]

The max I have is 20 i think from speeding r6a1😭

[eternal talon]

BEHOLD, PLANT

and more plant

[ionic dune]

Minecraft

[eternal talon]

i have the most random-seeming screenshots imaginable

ogr1 c*m foam

i could go on

[royal crow]

Smash

They should have kept that foam

[ionic dune]

Still waiting on a mod to add it back

[eternal talon]

lmao. it's always the c*m foam that makes people go "what"

[ionic dune]

Does he say ander son or Anders son? (Genuine question)

[eternal talon]

the gun being called the "C-FOAM LAUNCHER" didn't help back then either.

[eternal talon]

no space.

i'll post the audio. gimme a sec

[warm bronze]

id say Anderson

[ionic dune]

No I meant the space

[warm bronze]

frostty might post js the audio file but https://youtu.be/q-Ht6hTHbXU?si=ixQae4-wut_bCNmv

[warm bronze]

yeah lmao

1:25

[ionic dune]

He pronounces it like andersen which makes it worse to try to guess which it is lol

Yea he says Anderson

[warm bronze]

😭

the alts drive me crazy in a bad way sometimes

[ionic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-low-quality-gif-25518240

[eternal talon]

different universes man

[warm bronze]

cuz sometimes they fix things that shouldve never been errors in the original but in they end they were still just errors

[eternal talon]

well technically they didn't "fix" anything.

the og worldline stuff is still canon

@coral gorge , break out the chart

[warm bronze]

thats awful because I am reminded of the Red Alpha mission happening before the hsu breakthru in the main timeline

[eternal talon]

hm?

wdym "hsu breakthru"

[warm bronze]

it's been a while but i was trying to organize the timeline and the main logs had the red alpha mission using breaking new hsu tech scheduled for a specific date but then the log explaining the hsu breakthru was like. six years later. let me see if i can find what im talking abt because this discrepency got fixed in the alt timeline

[eternal talon]

With next month’s launch of the ESA’s Red Alpha manned mission...
Science Weekly
Friday November 2nd, 2035

This week, Kovac Research revealed a glimpse into the future that has
captivated the scientific community and made the research company the
focus of worldwide attention.
The Intelligentsia, Science Dep
April 11th 2041

... huh.

[warm bronze]

here's an old screenshot of my timeline document where i was summarizing whatever log gave me the info i was looking for

n in the alt logs the breakthru was 41, the mission in 42

[eternal talon]

i don't have an answer for that.

[royal crow]

I do

[warm bronze]

okay !

[royal crow]

It's

"worldline stuff"

[warm bronze]

i presumed it was a typo. tbh

[eternal talon]

but uh, if you haven't played r8, yeah, OG is still its own thing.

[warm bronze]

i know!

ive almost finished r8.

almost

somehow stayed unspoiled for 2 whole years tho so lets keep it that way, r8e2 is the last one i got

[royal crow]

Chat

Spoil them

[eternal talon]

awwww

[warm bronze]

(its misery)

[ionic dune]

Let’s spoil

[royal crow]

[raw terrace]

theres strikers maybe

[eternal talon]

i was about to no-context link "welcome to the jungle"

[raw terrace]

spoilered

[warm bronze]

leaves instantly

[royal crow]

Bishop has a kid with Dauda

[ionic dune]

Uhhhh e2 unlocks e3

[warm bronze]

omg js like my favorite fanfics <3 /J

[warm bronze]

Omg so fun

[ionic dune]

Might be some enemies in e2

[raw terrace]

e2 is called stfu

would b epic

[royal crow]

E2 is a level in GTFO, just a small spoiler

[ionic dune]

From what I’ve heard e2 is ez, has been solod

[royal crow]

E2 has a main objective too

[warm bronze]

chat im not good at this game

[eternal talon]

neither am I.

[warm bronze]

stop telling me e2 is easy i couldnt even beat r8b4 without a carry

[royal crow]

Currently everyone in chat is trash at the game

[warm bronze]

fantastic im among my people

[ionic dune]

nah it took a while and the clear was seeded with perfect boosters

Which still it’s very hard

Very very hard

[ionic dune]

I’m prolly worst ngl

[royal crow]

Omg Seeds
Thats cheating, fucking degen cheaters
Cries and gets angry

[ionic dune]

I wanna post a copypasta but I’ll just dm instead 😭

[warm bronze]

what does seeded mean

[eternal talon]

alr, here are your r8e2 spoilers.

good luck.

[ionic dune]

Everything spawns at the same spot bacisly

[warm bronze]

NOOOO i cannot believe this </3 my day is ruined i know the ending

sighs

my friend spoiled what happened to schaeffer and then we couldnt even get to the Part TM

we did eventually

[eternal talon]

the funny thing is, i'm pretty sure it is juuuust clear enough that if you know you can make out what it is a picture of.

oh, also:

[warm bronze]

😭

[ionic dune]

Awooooga

[warm bronze]

the thing is from context clues I can figure it out but I dont want how the ending is delivered to be spoiled

[ionic dune]

Looks like milkers ngl

[warm bronze]

I SEE IT

[eternal talon]

oh, no, the incredibles meme is a "Do you know how nam-v works or not"

[vagrant forum]

you meet the warden face to face and he starts throwing it back

[royal crow]

Hmmm warden 😍

[warm bronze]

not from the meme but from like. e1

[warm bronze]

OMG 🎉

YAYA

[royal crow]

That's not a joke

You actually do

He just spoiled

[warm bronze]

i mean WHATTTTTTT

egads!

[ionic dune]

🥀

[warm bronze]

i cant believe it... day is ruined

[eternal talon]

i just made something like a 150% gaussian blur on an actual screenshot

[warm bronze]

i dont get to have a true reaction to the warden twerking... al ur fault

[ionic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/emojedie-gif-22495013

[eternal talon]

i wiiiiish

[royal crow]

Frostty

[eternal talon]

we don't get to see shit of the collectors.

its dissapointing af

[eternal talon]

i'm simultaniously an airhead and a library of babel.

[ionic dune]

Smh

[royal crow]

Air head? Does your head float or something?

[eternal talon]

i'm a hot air balloon.

[eternal talon]

it's a saying.

[royal crow]

I knowwwwwww

Don't take it too seriously

[eternal talon]

i'm also hyper-literal.

and autistic.

[royal crow]

[vagrant forum]

do you partake in wh40k?

[eternal talon]

i own a couple necrons, but not really.

more warhammer fantasy/aos.

and of that, vampire coast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHh1TxryWlw

vampires + pirates. two of my favorites.

[warm bronze]

Okay im doing more research writing a script for a video that will probably never happen and Im making a few connections maybe?

Woods went on hsi rampage in 2048, got shot. We know he's healed by the time his first audio log happens because it sounds as though he lifts his shirt to show off the scars, and i imagine it'd take a long time for eight gunshot wounds in the chest to heal- lets say 6-12 months. Then he gets put in hydrostasis, that takes a bit to wipe all his memories, could be anywhere between 6 months to over a year. I have a theory that the person in hydrostasis will lose their memories faster if they're willing to lose them based on Hackett and Bishop's experiences, so lets say it takes a year. That puts his second audio log, two years after he become a KSO, in 2052 somewhere. In said log he's told he'll have to be reset and marked as faulty if he believes in god, then later in 2052 he's reported to have scarred himself with religious iconography etc. Im guessing he's marked as faulty almost immediately after that, in June of '52

maybe the timelines a bit of a stretch right but I think it makes sense that he'd be told they're gonna reset him then he'd mark himself to make sure he'll remember, no matter how many times he's reset

[strange path]

Heat heat heat heat heat

[eternal talon]

necrofex colossus is PEAK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O8RqJ3QVLA

[tame lintel]

its such a shame that vampire coast is suffering warhammer 3

and is kinda nothing burger in AoS

[eternal talon]

a nothing burger? iirc it doesn't exist at all on the tabletop.

you can kitbash models, but iirc there are no official rules for them

they only appear in lore books

[tame lintel]

they had an official roster- in the white dwarf

ages ago

[untold brook]

so what happened to the warden in the end

i remembered vaguely that in r8e1 we got a message saying that warden protocol is offline