gtfo-lore

[coral gorge]

dont spend an hour on the weapons lore

[opal sorrel]

Exactly

[eternal talon]

Some stuff like roanoke's videos are straight up misinformation

[coral gorge]

its not worth it

[eternal talon]

frustratingly

[opal sorrel]

I won’t it’s probably gonna be 10 mins at the absolute max

[solar nova]

I think you've not played that much, then.

[royal crow]

the only lore are hel weapons really
and how some of the melees were made with scrap

[west pebble]

tricked me hard ngl before i started to read some stuff from here

[eternal talon]

here is the not finished pdf replacement for the for dummies doc

[royal crow]

which really shows how desperate they were back then
the last stand of garganta

[coral gorge]

yeah its funny
Like Infinite Duck has a banger video all the way back from OG R6
And then you have Roanoke who has… weird takes

[royal crow]

really cool

[eternal talon]

our resources here are generally speaking the best there are

[solar nova]

R1 and R2 are far on the easier side, and A-side R8 is far from the hardest content the game has to offer if you just do Mains.

[royal crow]

roanoke makes theories with the stuff HE SEES
not from CONFIRMED facts

i understand him but at the same time

come on

do some resarch

[eternal talon]

its funny, duck was really active in here around the time he made that video, so besides scaler, who'se videos are mostly out of date or too specific in context, that is the best off-platform

[coral gorge]

Rip Duck, lost to time

[royal crow]

who?

[coral gorge]

Disappeared into the void

[opal sorrel]

Well I look forward to carrying their legacy

But I am aware it’s gonna take

A long ass time

[coral gorge]

a guy who made a lore timeline back in Og R6

great vid

[royal crow]

im still waiting for a lore vid explaining Mr Truth smh

[eternal talon]

lots and lots of people i've seen come and gone from this channel

[royal crow]

GTFO MVP

[eternal talon]

like, half of the people credited for helping make the for dummies doc are gone like the wind

[coral gorge]

yeah
But hey, We will be defo looking forward to seeing your work complete

[opal sorrel]

There is that too. No promises lads. But I’ve already put a good few hours into it and enjoying it so far

[coral gorge]

we wish you the best of luck
And yeah we are here if you need answers for anything

[opal sorrel]

And I will of course add credits and stuff

[eternal talon]

thats exactly what @worn rivet said, be he's trickling out too.

i mean its justifiable. this game is finished

the dev support is over

[opal sorrel]

It sucks so hard

[eternal talon]

its just a chat group mostly in here of fellow lore addicts.

[royal crow]

the community is so small youll see the same 100-200 users everywhere

reddit, youtube, steam, discord etc

[eternal talon]

the people from every other channel is this server never visit here, and most here never visit the other channels haha

[opal sorrel]

I didn’t even notice the option until you highlighted it in your reply

[west pebble]

i feel personally called out by that statement xd

[honest summit]

cap

[royal crow]

Tgb you are practically everywhere

[eternal talon]

*most, the spill in is significantly less than the spill out

the most active in here is usually me, pable, and cubix.

[opal sorrel]

I can give yous a preview and see if you like the vibe. Just like a tiny portion about an introduction to the characters

[west pebble]

100 messages sent in this channel most of which are from a single convo, otherwise i just stalk this chat sometimes

[worn rivet]

what

[gray bone]

Same goes for tech support

[worn rivet]

i feel like i've missed something

[eternal talon]

hell if you want i could go over every sentence. just take your time with researching. a lot of the lore is in wierd places.

[royal crow]

make sure to add little details like the Bishop that came back from EF-01 isnt the original Bishop

those little details count

[west pebble]

what is the weirdest place to find lore for gtfo?

[opal sorrel]

EF-01?

[eternal talon]

an email from 10cc.

like, we've had to solve ARGs before...

[royal crow]

the first expedition using the MWP to travel to another worldlines
youll get there

[eternal talon]

here is one arg we solved:

Original text:

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Base64 Decode output:

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Decode output with 20 as a divider:

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3X converted to just X and combined into decimals:

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Combined into decimals converted to ASCII:

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Base64 Decode output with new ASCII text:

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[worn rivet]

whoa

[opal sorrel]

As in the first time you use the MWP?

[eternal talon]

this one was for the coordinates of destination

[honest summit]

Facebook

[eternal talon]

we had the goldie cipher log

[royal crow]

nope
its before the events of the actual game takes place

[eternal talon]

a great many over the years

[opal sorrel]

I’m pretty sure I did that one too and me and my friend were like what the fuck is happening

[opal sorrel]

Ohhhhh ok ok

Oh damn

[eternal talon]

stuff like the https://santonianindustries.com/ website exclusive logs

[opal sorrel]

Interesting

[eternal talon]

the game has over 200 total

[opal sorrel]

I have seen this one

[eternal talon]

only like 160 were ever in game

[worn rivet]

theoretically in gtfo, the main 4 are super soilders

[eternal talon]

i dont remember the exact number

[west pebble]

ok hear me out: tier list for best lore spots for gtfo

[eternal talon]

most from in-game, aren't even anymore

because alt

[royal crow]

but as i said
dont miss the little details that arent brought up anywhere at all
but they make things a lot more interesting

[eternal talon]

and the original FOMO rundown system from way back when

[opal sorrel]

Well isn’t that like, their backstory? Like they’re enhanced soldiers that worked for fuckinnn uhhh

What’s their name

That company that was hired for security

[royal crow]

they have a lot more of backstory

[opal sorrel]

Kovac??

[royal crow]

well

[eternal talon]

iirc there is one log on a terminal during an extraction error alarm, i know @royal crow has mentioned it before as being a pain for the achievement

[royal crow]

Bishop is the only one that shouldnt be there

[worn rivet]

no, most of them didnt work for kovac or garganta before they were turned into kso's

[royal crow]

R2E1?

[eternal talon]

just read the doccument

it covers that

[royal crow]

theres a log in the 2nd to last area

[eternal talon]

and a shit ton more

[west pebble]

r5d1 or r2e1 is pain to get lore wise

[opal sorrel]

I will when I’m at PC

[west pebble]

but i mean tier list for like: getting gtfo lore by email or by arg

[eternal talon]

there is less it doesn't cover than it does

most of the lore of the game is stuff pre-apocalypse, before gameplay

[worn rivet]

one of them did, uh he tryed to blackmail his boss but was fully wiped from the earth, there's no evidence he even existed

[eternal talon]

because... during gameplay, well, we are pretty much the last couple thousand humans on earth

everybody else is extinct, so not a whole lot of lore to draw from

[royal crow]

R2E1 wise the log isnt that hard to get once you are there
the problem is that its in the fucking end of the level so you have to kick all of E1

[worn rivet]

and then he became a kso through tortue and being on ice for a long time

[opal sorrel]

Who’s your fav character?

Including what you know about lore

[royal crow]

Bishop

[worn rivet]

hacket or alt dauda

[royal crow]

he was a fucking IT guy
and somehow ended up in a multiverse fight for humanity survival

bro is the least qualified person to be there

[opal sorrel]

What’s Hackett’s deal?

Obviously I’m gonna find out when I read the doc

But just like a summary

[eternal talon]

bishop blackmailed the wrong mo*f and got forced into the program.
hackett was fucked up in the head and volunteered.
woods shot up an army base and KOVAC got (kidnapped) him from a prison, like most of their other KSOs.
dauda was not a KSO originally, but was forced to enter a hydrostasis unit because sleepers were breaking down the door to his lab and he had no escape
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[opal sorrel]

He’s my fav he’s so funny

[worn rivet]

i think he's the one who got indenity wiped

[royal crow]

that was Bishop

he got deleted from existence

[gray bone]

(by his boss)

[opal sorrel]

Oh man poor Dauda 😭😭😭

[worn rivet]

yeah, dauda's a war criminal

[royal crow]

(and then he got gaslighted in an interview)

[eternal talon]

he was a contracted mercenary. he shot up an entire village, women and children included. he didn't feel anything.
he was the only person in the Legion program's history to ever volenteer to enter it and have his memory wiped

[opal sorrel]

Oh GOD

😭

Dude just went insane

[royal crow]

the only reason on why hackett is fan favorite:
-"We got pings, hands off cocks"

11/10 voice line

[worn rivet]

he did biolgical tortue while testing the virus on humans, probably civilans,

[eternal talon]

Hackett
Oh no, it's not that. It's that I don't care. It just... doesn't affect me anymore. Like... Look, last posting, Kovak sent me up to Delbaran, hm? Little Kurdish village in western Iran? Well, used to be Iran y'know. So I was told I had to keep the villagers in check, right? And these poor bastards were terrified that the Republic Forces or what have you were going to take over the village and kill every last one of them, so I was told to keep them there until an envoy could evac, right? The thing is, I was also told I couldn't let them leave. Now, they had to stay in the village, so we knew where everyone was. But these people were shittin' bricks. So, some of them took it upon themselves to run.
Interviewer
So you were upset when you failed your mission?
Hackett
I didn't say I failed. I shot 'em. Ended up killing about 20 of them. Maybe more in fact, when we think about it. The thing is, I just... don't give a fuck, y'know? And that's not right, is it? I think I might be, like y'know, broken or somethin'.

here is a snippet of that log

[royal crow]

100 noobs vs 1 Pro aaaaah video

[opal sorrel]

Exactly ahahaha

He is so funny

[worn rivet]

oh, yeah none of them are even semi good

[eternal talon]

bishop is probably the least morally evil

[royal crow]

he is an idiot

lets leave it like that

[worn rivet]

yeah both an idiot for blackmailing the wrong guy and for working in garganta

[opal sorrel]

Why does he say “when we think about it”?

Who is we

[royal crow]

Bishop story is just so funny for me for some reason

[opal sorrel]

Is he schizo

[worn rivet]

could be a sign of his deteroiting mental state from being in an active warzone

[royal crow]

the only schizo character is Woods by far

he says god talked to him

which i guess he actually did?

[opal sorrel]

I might need to rethink how I introduce them

I called Woods pragmatic

[royal crow]

since he was right about the virus and worldlines

[gray bone]

By the end of this you'll rethink a lot of things I bet

[eternal talon]

idk, it just seems like a typo. legit read it five times and didn't see that lmao

[opal sorrel]

Oh ok ok I thought it was intentional

[eternal talon]

we've had typos in logs before

[worn rivet]

it could be those interdimensional creatures who were in the ship that the virus came from or actual god

[eternal talon]

usually minor

but there was that one "meters or miles" debate

[opal sorrel]

Just adds to the immersion

[eternal talon]

because the log didn't specify

but the community manager managed to get an answer from the dev team for us and solved that

[opal sorrel]

Me and my friend died like 3 times on R8D1 from typos

[eternal talon]

(the log said miles but it meant meters)

[royal crow]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWW

FREEDOM UNITS

MODS, NUKE EM

[worn rivet]

it takes place in mexico or around that area

[royal crow]

the game takes place in Yucatan peninsula

[worn rivet]

and in the middle of the ocean

[opal sorrel]

Yall excited for their new game?

[royal crow]

Located in the Gulf of Mexico

[opal sorrel]

For some reason it doesn’t speak to me as much

[eternal talon]

pable is their neighbor

[opal sorrel]

Just doesn’t hold as much potential

[gray bone]

I mean you should go over to their discord and see if they're hyped

[opal sorrel]

Also it’s 2025 so you KNOW it’s gonna be a buggy mess

[royal crow]

i live in the other side of the country

[gray bone]

90% they really aren't

[royal crow]

Unity games arent that bad

[eternal talon]

not really

[opal sorrel]

We will see

[worn rivet]

fun fact, that dauda log that leads to him being trapped in a kso pod is weird

[royal crow]

seriously speaking
its not the engine its the developers

[eternal talon]

oh god, i remember this conversation

did you ever finish your math assessment?

the number of sleepers in gameplay doesn't matter for how long a door lasts

[royal crow]

not that convo again

[worn rivet]

like it's a standard blue door that they break down in under a fucking minute but then there's doors that's taken fucking years for them to not break down

[royal crow]

GUYS GAMEPLAY AND LORE ARE DIFFERENT

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[royal crow]

when are we going to understand this

[worn rivet]

I'M TALKING ABOUT SET DESIGN

[eternal talon]

ONLY RED SLEEPERS DISSOLVE IN LORE GUYS, THEY ALL DO IN GAMEPLAY FOR PERFORMANCE REASONS

[royal crow]

yeah see

thats one example

[eternal talon]

(the red baby merch plushie, yet only white babies in-game)

[worn rivet]

gtfo is a social commentary on how ceos and companys favour money over safety of workers

[eternal talon]

oh shit they don't even have it on the store anymore

gimme a sec

[gray bone]

aren't nightmare babies red

[royal crow]

they are a red blob with tentacles

but not really sleepers

at least not the same way we get to see them

[royal crow]

bed reveal

[eternal talon]

have you never seen my fucking discord pfp?

[worn rivet]

who would legitemtly buy that for a plushie

[eternal talon]

i mean me, obviously

i also have the santonain hard hat

[eternal talon]

it says wash together or dry together

[worn rivet]

waking up in the middle of the night to see that thing with alot of teeth just sat there

[tough wave]

Really simple question but, could sleepers have infected animals?

[eternal talon]

yes -> planet destination

[tough wave]

Haven't been there yet tbh, was just curious

[royal crow]

we know Mr Truth dog died by the virus

so yeah

[tough wave]

Oh shit Schaeffer had a dog?

[royal crow]

Mr Truth

not scafer

[tough wave]

They're seperate people?

[worn rivet]

ahh yes mr thruth the whistle blower radio guy

[tough wave]

I'm learning all sorts of new things

[royal crow]

yeah

[eternal talon]

thats just the virus though. i think they meant like actually being sleeperified, with the parasite

[tough wave]

I just assumed Mr. Truth was Schaeffer tbh, I didn't put too much thought into while I was getting run down by hordes of sleepers

[eternal talon]

one died in the mountains of america in the late 2050s

[tough wave]

Yeah, I mean like, can you have sleeper dogs

[royal crow]

Mr Truth as far as we know was one of the last humans standing in the actual surface

[eternal talon]

the other is stuck in this shit hole crater with the rest of us

[royal crow]

bro was built different

[tough wave]

Built on the truth

Alright tho, thank you, I think

[eternal talon]

yes

if the parasite can jump from aliens to humans, from humans to dogs is a much less extreme jump

[tough wave]

So was the complex devoid of animal life or it it just a gameplay limitation

[royal crow]

i dont really see how a dog or a horse would fit in the complex

[eternal talon]

i mean to be fair, it has been abandoned for about half a decade

[tough wave]

Rats tbh

[eternal talon]

everything is either already a sleeper, or starved to death

or killed by nam-v

[tough wave]

Alright, neat

I only know like, what GTFO presents to me by R4

Which is not a whole lot

[eternal talon]

two things.

[royal crow]

RATS

RATS IN A CAGE

CHEWING EACH OTHER TO GET OUT

[eternal talon]

just know nam-v is the most bullshit OP deus ex machina virus you'll ever see in any media ever

[tough wave]

Alright

[gray bone]

Is Zuke still here

[eternal talon]

100% lethal, can infect through any vector except the vaccum of space where there are no vectors,

the whole shebang

[royal crow]

the Goku of viruses

[eternal talon]

and secondly, read the for dummies doc.

[gray bone]

you did throw him the doc so he should be reading through it rn

[royal crow]

Goku if it was a virus

[tough wave]

I know we get frozen(to death?) And resuscitated or something between missions cause of it

[eternal talon]

just don't read the "gameplay summary". it is out of date.

[eternal talon]

hydrostasis kills us

it also kills the virus

it only brings us back to life

its gtfo's version of cryostasis sort of thing.

[tough wave]

Yeah

[gray bone]

We get turned into jerky

[tough wave]

Alright, I have one question about the team

[gray bone]

And rehydrated to be not-jerky people again

[eternal talon]

The breakthrough that Kovac Research hopes will answer these questions
is called Hydrostasis - a process that allows humans to be held in a
state of suspended animation for weeks, months, even years at a time
without suffering any ill-effects. The nuts and bolts of the process
are a closely guarded secret, but sources speculate that the procedure
likely uses a synthetic amniotic fluid to sustain and protect the body
while it is in an induced comatose state. In this state, the body is -
for all intents and purposes - dead, but no cell deterioration or
physical decay occurs. For the human in Hydrostasis, the heart, and
time, stops.

[tough wave]

Are they just lucky?

[gray bone]

Define lucky

[royal crow]

nope

we are the PERFECT team

we are the best of the best between worldlines

[eternal talon]

gtfo is a muliverse of multiverses

[royal crow]

our survival is always guarantee no matter the cost

[eternal talon]

even IRL is canon

[royal crow]

thats why OG survives and not ALT

[tough wave]

Favored by chance enough to not die but not favored by chance enough not to be in this situation. Kinda like how John 117 carries Cortana.

[eternal talon]

yes, the IRL where we are playing GTFO is canon in GTFO

in the gameplay, our OG squad, are the best squad in the multiverse

or at least of the worldlines kovac/insight explored

and that log is over a thousand entries long...

the excel spreadsheet log

[royal crow]

i would say ALT team get close to them seeing how they were able to keep up

but in the end

[tough wave]

So like, I get that they're the best

[royal crow]

they fucking died

[tough wave]

I'm asking why that is, or like

What actually goes into making them the best

Whether its by sheer talent or luck or whatever

[gray bone]

Insane scaffer

[eternal talon]

hands waive
its one single line from a single kovac log

gimme a sec

[tough wave]

Take your time

[tough wave]

If GTFO was better there'd be a Schaeffer alt mode lmao, you just solo like a crazy person

[eternal talon]

**Mr. Johanson,

With regards to the psychological matching of our operatives, we have found that each designation has a tendency to take a specific role within the quad. Genesis often establish themselves as leaders within a few minutes, as is to be expected with the increased 5-HT receptors. The designations do allow for flexibility of course. We have several quads where operatives marked as Faulty have assumed a leadership role, making me question our classification criteria. It may be that our standards are too stringent (excepting injury or physical incapability obviously), and we should be less hasty marking an operative as faulty when we see mental aberrations. The deviations happen more often when the operative is placed under extreme duress, or if an objective requires extensive violent engagement. I believe we expect too much given their social circumstance prior to acquisition. Despite extensive protein supplements, those embedded behaviors are going to surface and we should develop a curriculum to deal with them rather than throwing them on the trash heap.

This, of course, is all moot pending Rise, but who knows how long that will be.

At some point I’d like to address the auditory response irregularity noted in my previous report. While the short-term solution is to simply offer ear protection for operatives who are overly sensitive to certain frequencies, I’d like to put together a team to research the problem. Let me know.

We continue to strive for the perfect quad.

Ellis Carnegie**

okay technically two

Rasmon and Bray— Brayburn? No, useless. Wrong… skills? Who… Who a working person understands that— [groan of pain]. I have to understand numbers. The Warden calculates, we need our numbers, so I need uh… I need a uh— a programmer, uhh like Bishop? Yes, like Bishop! Was he a programmer? Bishop.. hacker? That's a programmer, right? Yes, yes, a hacker, yes. Ermm.. Christi, no, Fortuna— no, not you. Henriksson? Yes, Henriksson, computer science, yes. At Munich, is that good? As good as Bishop? I think, yes. How do you end up as Legion, Henriksson? Questions with no answer. Now, who can fix things? Make them work for us instead of the Warden. Hear that? I'm coming for you! Good with their hands… a… mechanic, or an engineer. Good! Mind's working again. You haven't got my mind! Oh, oh we'll need a medic. Dauda, he'll work. They work so well, just like them. So I need a, I need a Woods, and Hackett… [Scout scream in background] .. Time to move!

[tough wave]

So they're kinda just simply The Main Characters

[eternal talon]

yep

[opal sorrel]

Apologies got a phone call gonna catch up on what I missed now and then jump on PC

[royal crow]

we are the main characters of the main characters

[eternal talon]

because there are like 6-7 bishops, woods, hackets, and daudas

[tough wave]

Yeah, I just mean there's no real further reason to it.

[eternal talon]

most of them are dead already though

[royal crow]

in R8 you can see multiple teams which means they made it as far as we did

but they simple werent good enough

[gray bone]

We get to see a lot of dead us's

[tough wave]

Iirc we only interact with 2 of each, alt team and OG team

[tough wave]

Gotcha

[eternal talon]

dont forget there is also the dead dauda and bishop in alt://r6dx

[royal crow]

tbh im starting to think our survival was always always meant to be

it makes sense for the collectors to help/keep one of the best if not the best group of people that fought against the sleepers

[tough wave]

I thought we died?

[royal crow]

ALT did

OG didnt

[tough wave]

Nah like

[eternal talon]

did.. you not play through the second half of r8?

[tough wave]

I thought it didn't matter

[eternal talon]

oh, you mean like that

[tough wave]

No, I came here to ask about dogs and got caught up lmao

Yeah

[eternal talon]

yeah, OG probably died from nam-v later on

[opal sorrel]

What the fuck is going on with the end of E2 anyways

[eternal talon]

but we can't say for certain

[opal sorrel]

Like what does it makes by traps

The place is a fucking rainforest

[tough wave]

Yeah, this

[eternal talon]

we don't know to be honest.

[royal crow]

OG team waprs to the EF-01 expedition from ALT

[opal sorrel]

Man so much potential

[eternal talon]

its the jungle planet durant went to in ALT

[royal crow]

Durant and Co made a little base inthe jungle planet

[eternal talon]

instead of destination, where OG durant went

[royal crow]

so it makes sense there is traps

[opal sorrel]

Don’t even know who durant is

Name sounds vaguely familiar lmfao

[eternal talon]

durant was one of the three heads of Insight.

[tough wave]

Me either pal

[eternal talon]

those being Stokes, Durant, and Hammerstein

[royal crow]

he was along with Bishop part of the first MWP expedition

only Bishop made it out

[opal sorrel]

So much fuckin lore like this video could be 3 hours long if I wanted

My main concern is my mic quality

[royal crow]

OG Durant got stranded and died in Destination

[opal sorrel]

Like it’s not bad

But it’s not great

[eternal talon]

Hammerstein was the official "lead" of insight. he lead expeditions into the alien ship, the vessel/fossil/egg, and collected most of the artifacts. he called them the "hammerstein collection"

Stokes was in charge of studying the artifacts. she also managed the ef01 expedition with the matter wave projector, the expedition that durant led.

Durant, a dozen assistants, and a KSO quad used the MWP to make the first trip to an alien world with the matter wave projector.

(using reverse engineered alien teleporters)

in OG, durant and his crew ended up on destination and everyone except bishop were killed.

in ALT, they ended up stranded on the unknown jungle world that we end up going to at the end of r8

we go there, because it is the only known clean worldline, without the virus

[royal crow]

heh clean

[opal sorrel]

But what if we brought it with us

[eternal talon]

this is because durant and his team left just before the outbreak in garganta got out of hand

[royal crow]

thats most likely what happens

lol

[eternal talon]

that is why r8e2 is a bad ending

[opal sorrel]

[eternal talon]

most likely

[opal sorrel]

[eternal talon]

dooming the last living humans

[opal sorrel]

These guys can’t catch a break

[royal crow]

knowing the hell we went through E2 theres no way we are NOT infected

[opal sorrel]

Is E2 much different from E1?

[royal crow]

a lot

A LOT

[eternal talon]

its like 99% chance we end up infected by the end., but technically we can't say for certain that we doomed the jungle world

[royal crow]

E1 is a C tier in difficulty

[opal sorrel]

Is it the same premise?

[royal crow]

nope

[opal sorrel]

Run for your fucking life?

[royal crow]

its way different

[opal sorrel]

Bet

[eternal talon]

r8e1 we play as the alt:// team of us

[opal sorrel]

When me and my friend realised what was actually going on in E1 we were so hyped ahaha

[eternal talon]

do you want spoilers?

[opal sorrel]

Ye ye

[royal crow]

its in a timer, each terminal gives you time, if times runs out you are basically dead
your goal is make it to KDS Deep but first you need to turn on the power
we fight a Kraken and turn on a Reactor

[gray bone]

Are you even at a point where this is considered spoilers

[opal sorrel]

I understand the alt versions and stuff

[gray bone]

Ye and it's stupid hard at some parts

[royal crow]

we fight as well dozens of tanks, moms and ton of enemies

[eternal talon]

basically, OG kill alt://schaeffer, pretend to be him, lead alt:// to the teleporter, YOINK the data cubes, and leave without them

[royal crow]

almost every enemy type is in that level

[opal sorrel]

YEAH I REMEMBER HEARING THIS IN THE VIDEO

IMAGINE

[eternal talon]

that crater wasn't from an explosion -- where alt:// make their final stand

[opal sorrel]

DOING THAT TO YOURSELF

It isn’t even like

Someone else it’s literally yourself

[opal sorrel]

[royal crow]

in the 2nd half of R8 we play as the other team

lol

[eternal talon]

we just end up teleporting half of KDS-DEEP with us as the OG team

[worn rivet]

ahh yes the final stand of alt team,

[royal crow]

same story different POV

[gray bone]

Yeah and we already saw what happened when two versions meet

[opal sorrel]

So depressing man

[gray bone]

Not very good to say the least

[royal crow]

OG had it way worse than ALT in R8

holy shit

[opal sorrel]

But the fact that there’s cryo pods there provides some sorta hope no?

[worn rivet]

they fought against a massive whale thingy, then had to run through rooms of tanks and mothers to escape

[opal sorrel]

Like if they can

[royal crow]

B4, D2 and E2 are hell by themselves

[opal sorrel]

Figure it out quickly enough that is

[eternal talon]

so, there were 8k HSUs outside of KDS-DEEP.

in KDS-DEEP, there are 24,000

for a total of 32,000 KSOs in garganta at maximum capacity

r5e1 was giving warden access to the KSOs in KDS-DEEP

so 1: most of these pods are empty by this point

[worn rivet]

fought alot of shit and mothers, killed alt team and then teleported out of the timeline with the kso pods

[eternal talon]

2: after we lift the lockdown, this place is infested, obvious given we have to fight through it

3: nam-v can survive on surfaces for just over a month

[opal sorrel]

So we just shafted everyone in deep?

[eternal talon]

4: even if we didn't come through infected, all of KDS-DEEP that we dragged with us was

[opal sorrel]

Ah ok so new world is legit fucked

[eternal talon]

not to mention kovac were STORING INFECTED PEOPLE IN HSUS

as class F, "infected"

[opal sorrel]

So depressing man

That’s why I love it

[eternal talon]

and if you think thats bad, they were using the infected people for organ transplants/harvesting

[worn rivet]

yeah we doomed that entire planet and worldline to hell

[eternal talon]

I'm worried if we don't solve this issue we may end up with a failure cascade. These HSUs are all F/Infected classification so I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world if we lost the meat, but the freezers may come in handy someday - or at least we may end up needing them as Deep backups or organ donations etc.

[opal sorrel]

It’s so sad how happy Hackett sounds when you make it too

Knowing it’s false confidence

[eternal talon]

and this log explicitly mentions storing them as backups in kds-deep

[royal crow]

the voice lines at the end of E1 does make it feel like the characters actually liked each other

and not only saw themselves as tools

[worn rivet]

they all do, they've just lived and fought through hell and can rest, only to die agonigzly to the virus

[eternal talon]

so some of the pods are empty, some have live KSOs, and some have the virus. spin the roulette wheel of death!

[opal sorrel]

My boys deserved better

[royal crow]

only Bishop

the others nah

fuck them

[opal sorrel]

Hackett deserved better

[worn rivet]

and that's if the other ones on that planet didnt kill them on sight

for what they've done

[eternal talon]

durant mentions having set up traps... which is strange

they must have assumed at some point SOMEONE from earth would be sent after them

don't think they would have expected this, though

[worn rivet]

like they've doomed all of them to hell, might as well get some revenge

[eternal talon]

remember time flows faster on destination, and slower on the jungle world

to them, it was probably only recently they were stranded

i dont remember the conversion for the jungle world

[royal crow]

It only has been a couple days for them right?

[eternal talon]

i know destination is 85x1

[opal sorrel]

Are there any enemies I missed btw

[worn rivet]

yeah the jungle planet, wasnt there a copy of one of the main 4 at one point

[royal crow]

The Potato

Pablo

Kraken

[opal sorrel]

I know the defaults of course and then the grabber and the

[royal crow]

Kraken baby

[opal sorrel]

Boss in R8

And the weird black mfs

Oh and the floaty bois

[royal crow]

Meatballs

:3

[opal sorrel]

Great name

[eternal talon]

you've got shadows, strikers, shooters, hybrids, giants, chickens, poppers, chargers, giant chargers, pablo, tanks, mothers, babies, pmommies, krakens, floaters, shockers, giant mommy, all of the nightmare variants...

[royal crow]

They are called Fliers but we like to say meatballs

[eternal talon]

snatcher

i call them floaters

[opal sorrel]

Ok so I’ve seen like half of em maybe a little more than half

[eternal talon]

the floaters, shockers, and kraken are aliens

that were infected by nam-v and the parasite

[royal crow]

Fliers are really interesting enemies
The only ones that can travel through worldlines

[eternal talon]

we've never actually seen THE aliens, the collectors

[opal sorrel]

Bruh this video is gonna take so long lmfao

[eternal talon]

to be fair it is likely they are only capable of local teleportation. they never show up in garganta before r6b1 where they follow us through via the open tether

and that tether is presumably left open until the warden sends a team to collect it for us to use it in r6d1, as we leave it in when we extract

[eternal talon]

the lore is fucking deeeeeeennnnnnnnnssssssssssseeeeeee

they cut a LOT of it when they made the alt:// rundowns

[royal crow]

Still
We get stranded on Destination every other mission
This mfs can travel at will using the tethers

[opal sorrel]

I don’t think I’ll do the WHOLE thing moreso than summarise it

Also I haven’t played the tutorial

Nor do I know anything of it

Beyond

That it’s supposed to be insane

Should I do it alone

[eternal talon]

the tutorial, evaluation, is pretty much just a basic tutorial where you play as an unknown KSO

(the character has dauda's KSO class, but they are a white guy)

[gray bone]

could it just be a white dauda

[eternal talon]

you could do it in less than 10 minutes

[gray bone]

Also there's an impassible door

If you hack it open fun things happen

[eternal talon]

with a dozen tanks if you hack it, yeah

[opal sorrel]

is it just a solo thing?

[eternal talon]

yeah

[opal sorrel]

bet

[eternal talon]

the eval is a tutorial

[gray bone]

Unless you get bugged

[eternal talon]

it'll teach you red light green light

[opal sorrel]

ill give it a shot when i boot up next

[gray bone]

And matchmake into tutorial

[eternal talon]

you'll meet a single sleeper, then a group of four, then a do an alarm door, then extract

its short and simple

solo only. when you click it it will drop with a set loadout

[opal sorrel]

Could you dm me those docs btw

just got on pc now

[opal sorrel]

so is the insane part people were talking about behind that hacked door?

[eternal talon]

(remember, don't read gameplay summary)

[eternal talon]

i think so

but you can't open it in vanilla

you have to hack it open

by modding, or otherwise

there is nothing of note behind it anyway

it is a dead-end zone

[royal crow]

There is glowsticks

[west pebble]

the most dangerous glowstick is behind that door

[opal sorrel]

So if it erases memory, is our cast starting with no knowledge of what they've been doing or is it more of a long term thing? Like the journey to Mars must have taken a long ass time so it wiped it but our guys are only out for a few days or something?

[eternal talon]

when a prisonner is first inducted into legion, generally speaking, they are forced under for two years prior to their first deployment.

as far as i know, it seems to be related to how long you are under or how frequently.

we go under between every mission, but not for long stretches of time

[royal crow]

Sooooo whats the wage for an average KSO

Is it worth it?

[eternal talon]

they are slaves. $0

[royal crow]

Damn

[eternal talon]

kidnapped from US prisons

[royal crow]

:(

[eternal talon]

have their minds wiped then implanted with a chip that will not let them disobey the commands given to them by biocom

[opal sorrel]

As in the Mayans?

The ancient civilization?

[eternal talon]

yep. the 16th century maya fought against the sleepers and WON... kinda, (it was a draw)

[opal sorrel]

The ones who disappeared and nobody knows why

[eternal talon]

yes.

[opal sorrel]

very cool

This is the last slide. Is it not loading correctly or is there more pdfs?

[eternal talon]

you are correct. i just never finished it

go ahead and read the .txt

it covers much more, but isn't as simplified as the pdf

[opal sorrel]

didnt even clock the .txt

[eternal talon]

yeah, you gotta download it. discord won't show you the whole thing its so big

the for dummies txt was the original, meant to condense 200+ logs into something digestible in an afternoon

the pdf was planned to simplify it even further, but i got bored.

[opal sorrel]

it's ok dw im happy to read it

[eternal talon]

besides, gtfo had just officially ended so no real need to keep making resources

the txt doesn't have pictures unfortunately

hope you like black on white

[gray bone]

(that reminds me I have to actually find a way to get a bug wiki going)

[opal sorrel]

i like reading anyway so dw

is gggg

this is that small section i was talking about earlier

[eternal talon]

(notice their KSO designations almost line up to make GTFO)

but Genesis Operatives sadly are GOTFO

[opal sorrel]

wdym?

[eternal talon]

BISHOP, FRANK GO-1395
DAUDA, ABEO T-3701
WOODS, ISAIAH F-2056
HACKETT, AIDEN O-4711

[opal sorrel]

of course his first name is aiden

lmao

[eternal talon]

BISHOP, FRANK GO-1395
DAUDA, ABEO T-3701
WOODS, ISAIAH F-2056
HACKETT, AIDEN O-4711

[worn rivet]

which technically makes the ful title gotfo

[eternal talon]

do you got fo?

lmao

[opal sorrel]

GO Touch Fucking Outside

[worn rivet]

OR commit crimes

[opal sorrel]

And where was most of this info gathered? All logs? Some websites/ARGs?

[eternal talon]

all of the above.

from in-game logs, the ARGs, Email logs, and statements from the devs themselves

it has grown over the years. it was first made in 2021.

with the official "1.0" release of gtfo, OGr6

it doesn't have a citing page because that would be like six pages

[opal sorrel]

And what's the deal with R6, like has the lore been retconned? I know they had to rush the lore coz the game wasn't going to last as long as they hoped.

[royal crow]

I heard Mayans

Where Mayans

[eternal talon]

we've also had input from IRL professionals over the years, like CoolBeanz and Punkthulhu

[eternal talon]

all OG rundowns are still canon

you need to consider OG and ALT as separate worldlines/universes that merge in r8

(along with a dozen others)

it is all because of the misuse of the matter wave projector

the reason why r7 is the way it is... is because alt://r7 isn't possible

r7 is schaeffers rebellion against the warden after killing the conduit. in ALT://r6, he doesn't kill it. he listens to it

alt://schaeffer doesn't rebell

the story of OG and ALT is vastly different

which is why it is a problem for new players

they don't know any of this

so they go from ALT://r6 to OGr7 and the story makes no fucking sense to them

then r8 and its even more confusing

[opal sorrel]

you got any more of these?

[eternal talon]

across the game's many rundowns, we visit... like 9 or so different worldlines

[opal sorrel]

where did you get them from?

[eternal talon]

check the wiki. there are like 60 audio logs

[opal sorrel]

bet

[eternal talon]

a lot of stuff i have archived over the years on my own device

i started playing in 2019, in OGr1 when early access first started.

[opal sorrel]

first time i played was probably likeee

early 2020 maybe?

actually

maybe i can check on steam

[eternal talon]

basically, the matter wave projector, when insight recovered it, they were experimenting with it to figure out what it did and how it worked. at one point, they lost an entire wing of their lab to malfunctions with the device. they lost countless personnel. By the time we recover it in r6, it sends us to destination just by touching the damn thing.

as we keep using it, the malfunctions get worse

like some parts in r7 it just randomly shunts us without even interacting with it

[worn rivet]

worse and worse until inside r8 it started to merge worldlines

[eternal talon]

r8 is just the corruption of it getting SO BAD that it just spaghettis the worldlines it is connected to together

thats why there is bits of destination like sand and crystals underground in garganta, and vice versa

its all gone to hell

[worn rivet]

overusege lead to alot of problems with that thing

[eternal talon]

r8e2 you see the entire alpha one site from destination AND A KRAKEN underground, in garganta

that entire half of the mountain, warping and replacing the rock

[opal sorrel]

And the MWP is alien tech

right?

[eternal talon]

imagine what the surface looks like at this point

[eternal talon]

yes

it was built and designed by the collectors. they used it to travel between dimensions on their ship

[worn rivet]

oh shit, it really pull one of those things down there, and the surface would be hell im not suprised the earth didnt just explode

[eternal talon]

so in no way are we using it "as intended"

[opal sorrel]

man i think im just gonna have to play through the entire game again and get footage

[worn rivet]

from many earths merging into one

[eternal talon]

replacing a big chunk of air at 15,000 feet with like, a lake or something

really wacky shit

[worn rivet]

at least it would've fixed traffic problems

[gray bone]

Not really
It's like driving to work, except the road can become a volcano at any time

[eternal talon]

imagine a skyscraper... just having its middle section replaced by a random bit of air from destination, and it collapses

[gray bone]

And if you don't brake in time you fall into it

[eternal talon]

and on destination... having a random building appear from nowhere and fall on you

[worn rivet]

that would lead to alot of massive explosions

[eternal talon]

the matter wave projector, the data cubes, pretty much all of it is collector tech

they were... SO much more advanced than us

and they crashed into earth billions of years ago

assuming destination time

they say themselves... they were exiles

imagine what the main collector species is doing

somewhere out there in the multiverse

[opal sorrel]

9/11 moment

[worn rivet]

or their dead

[opal sorrel]

i mean what

[opal sorrel]

imagine the insane potential the devs had to explore this kinda stuff too 😦

gtfo 2 when

[eternal talon]

where destination is, in its own worldline, its in the butterfly nebula, 3k light years away. it could just also be replacing the air with space

[worn rivet]

wait i'm sorry it's in a nebula

[eternal talon]

we had this convo about a week ago. GTFO is just OOZING with potential

[eternal talon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_6302

these are the exact coordiantes.

the center, of this, that is

[worn rivet]

OH my god thats beautiful

[opal sorrel]

for what?

[worn rivet]

destination

[eternal talon]

^this conversation, if you want to back-read

[eternal talon]

where the planet destination is located, in its worldline

"worldline" is basically a term for universe

its just more specific given the context

destination is a planet in that universe

the planet is in that nebula

so for example, our universe, could have a destination, though it'd be likely different from that universes' destination

and likewise, destination's universe could have their own version of earth

[worn rivet]

destination is a beautiful planet, well the parts we see in game anyway

[eternal talon]

(i dont remember if you said you played r6 or not, but this is destination)

[eternal talon]

ah, yes, sandstorms taller than mountains. nice

like a planet-sized dust bowl

[worn rivet]

like i said a desert, wait was that all the parts we saw isnt there a night part

[eternal talon]

we are there at night time occasionally, yeah

[worn rivet]

wait no i think that was part of one of the alt rundowns

[eternal talon]

some more landscapes

another pic at night

[worn rivet]

bloody hell that's a good lighting

[eternal talon]

the planet does have SOME surface water, just not a lot.

[worn rivet]

not suprised considering what its next to

[eternal talon]

it also used to have a lot of plant life, at some point

some of the thistle-like plants seem to be still living, though.

[worn rivet]

alive by sheer will

[opal sorrel]

actually yeah

how do our characters not starve

or is it just game logic

knowing the devs it's probably explained

[eternal talon]

our KSOs are fed a nutrient sludge while in stasis via IV.

[opal sorrel]

glorious

[eternal talon]

bigger question is how OG bishop survived on destination for two years before being warped back alone...

because that planet has like, no food,

AND nam-v would have killed him

[worn rivet]

same way schaffer isnt dead

plot

[eternal talon]

plot holes

[opal sorrel]

when does this happen

[eternal talon]

OGr6b1-c1

[opal sorrel]

like pre gameplay?

oh

[worn rivet]

he some fucking how didnt get infected in the years he was down there

[opal sorrel]

man so i cant get footage of like

some of the og stuff?

[opal sorrel]

oh also any mods you guys recommend playing through, especially with bots

[worn rivet]

ahh yes the zip files

[opal sorrel]

i know there's a betterbots mod

not sure what it does exactly

[eternal talon]

well yeah... like 90% of the story is pre-gameplay

[worn rivet]

that i'm collecting like pokemon

[eternal talon]

i never played with mods.

but then again lobbies were easier to get into back in the day.

i haven't actually played gtfo in a long time

i just love the story/universe

[worn rivet]

the main group is a 4 man insanity crusade

[eternal talon]

no, not really.

gameplay is mostly the same

logs and stuff we don't see much, its usually reading or hearing audio logs

[opal sorrel]

cool cool

[eternal talon]

OG and ALT have different logs though,

so you would have to use an archive like the wiki to find the OG worldline logs

only outlier really is r7, because it doesn't happen in alt

this one carved sandstone boulder is the only thing of the collectors we get to see in-game, barring the artifacts

we never get to go to the inner, see the ship, or nothing

not even a sleeperified collector

[opal sorrel]

so we dont even know their psysiology?

[eternal talon]

nope

no clue what they look like

[cold sphinx]

frosttyyyyyyyyyy

[opal sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/prometheus-engineer-pain-drink-alien-gif-23521501

just imagining these mfs

[eternal talon]

hello, solo expert kaiser

[cold sphinx]

it me

[eternal talon]

their tech is off the fucking rocker

i dont recall if the doc includes details about their ship's weapon system or not

that caused the blast

that burned hotter than the big bang

**Dr Hammerstein,

The trace analysis on the residue found in the shafts after the October 12th event has been completed. It was mostly molten rock and metal, the composition of which confirms the blasts were high energy focused QGP streams, at a temperature that was only thought to have occurred during the Big Bang.

According to the BIOCOM navigation data supplied by Mr. Piros, the streams appear to have been deliberately targeted at areas where security operatives were engaged with the creatures during the attack. The QGP streams originated from the Inner but the creatures had by that point overrun much of Garganta, which is why we see such a wide spread of shafts across the facility.

Interestingly, none of the shafts created by the QGP streams caused flooding in the facility. The streams stopped short of the seabed, except for several shafts which penetrated the seabed within the perimeter of the sea walls, so no flooding occurred. This seems unlikely to be a coincidence. Unfortunately, one of the streams did hit the helipad outside hangar 3, which is where Mr Clinton was believed to be. His death would have been instantaneous. The results suggest this was a weapon. Whether it was aimed at us or the creatures is not clear, but it did turn the tide in our favor. Kovac drove the creatures back to the Inner shortly after the blasts (or the creatures retreated voluntarily – we only have a single Kovac report to go by and that paints them as the heroes of the October 12th event).

The trace analysis has left us with more questions than answers.**

**1) Who or what fired the streams?

2. We have created quark-gluon plasma in hadron colliders, but nothing even close to this power or temperature, so how were the QGP streams formed? Is there a machine or artifact we have yet to find?

3. This level of exotic matter control is beyond our understanding of the physical laws of the universe, so how was the intensity of the sub-atomic streams controlled?

4. Was the purpose of the streams to kill us, or the creatures? It worked in our favor to control the onslaught, but we lost hundreds of people in the blasts (though some may have been lost or taken by the creatures).

5. If the purpose of the blasts were to kill the creatures, why? Does something else see them as a threat?

Nolan Connor B229**

[worn rivet]

whoe

i forgot about the hotter then the big bang thingy

[eternal talon]

are you saying who or woah?

whoe isnt a word

[worn rivet]

whoa

[eternal talon]

i'm just thinking of like, napoleon, exiled to that one island to live out the rest of his days. he didn't have access to a whole lot of stuff. consider what the collectors were allowed to have access to.

[worn rivet]

oh god the main race must be insane

[eternal talon]

if this is what the exiled folks have, imagine what the civilization has

we don't know anything about their culture or anything, but like, the peak of what they would have invented

would be incomprehensible

would be like literal gods

[worn rivet]

they must be actual gods

[eternal talon]

if you exiled someone, you wouldn't allow them to have weapons most likely

what the fuck would they consider a weapon?

[eternal talon]

*in case they would strike back at you for exiling them

just a button to instantly delete a universe in less than a second?

[worn rivet]

if they just casually have shit that is hotter then a universe being created, then they're main weapons must be the shit

[eternal talon]

@opal sorrel if you want someone to proof read your research when you are done feel free to ask

[opal sorrel]

oh 100% man

imma do a bit more of the video tonight, still going through the first level for gameplay and system explaination

and once that's out of the way likely the environemnts and weapons and enemies

and then the lore

but gonna need to just play the whole damn game for footage and to generate a better image of the facility as a whole in my head

[worn rivet]

i like how in this server at any times, there's at least 20 people or so in the voice calls

[eternal talon]

i've got some good filler images.

just remember, garganta is the size of a city ala new york. it is absolutely sprawling.

it had tens of thousands of employees that lived and worked in these tunnels every day

[plush nest]

So due to the amount of control rods that were taken out of the system, they attempted to put them all back to try and salvage the scenario only to end up speeding up the reaction since the graphite tips went in first before the boron?

[royal crow]

Yes

[eternal talon]

yes

they didn't know it would do that though

they weren't the ones supposed to conduct the experiment. the day team was

but it got delayed

this exact scenario had been detected at one reactor prior -- in leningrad

but it was withheld from the chernobyl powerplant workers

(obviously though the one in leningrad didn't explode)

[royal crow]

Funny explosion

[opal sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/completly-normal-phenomenon-chernobyl-normal-completely-gif-15280147

[eternal talon]

AHA FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO HAS ALSO SEEN CHERNOBYL ON HBO

[opal sorrel]

It’s so good bruh

So so good

[eternal talon]

100%

[opal sorrel]

Me and my friends watched it in our stoner era and i remember feeling soooo uncomfortable

Like getting weird ideas into my head that I had cancer and shi

Just coz of how detailed it was

[eternal talon]

the show isn't perfectly accurate, but for a dramatization, it is surprisingly close to reality, like 80%

[opal sorrel]

Ah yeah you couldn’t expect it to capture everything coz I’m sure some of it was pretty boring

But such a good show. Anyone who hasn’t seen it I highly recommend

[eternal talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aynsi8uTqhY

[plush nest]

Would you recommend it

?

[eternal talon]

absolutely. watch it now.

its only 5 episodes

an afternoon

its incredible

[plush nest]

Once I am done research for the day maybe

[eternal talon]

half of the time you will be like "no way this is real", but most of the time, it was real

like the hellicoper crash into the open core, for example

[opal sorrel]

legit like

[plush nest]

wat

[opal sorrel]

what the fuck were they thinking

and the rooftop

bruh

[eternal talon]

boron and sand

we can't fly directly over the core so most of it is going to miss

- flies directly over the core

[eternal talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuNtgYtF4FI
real footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=209n4m6rwGc
from HBO's chernobyl

[eternal talon]

the fucking best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nctLdHKbJgk

[west pebble]

tbf in real life it hit a crane, had nothing to do with the radiation as it is implied in the show. Still very good series, even if some changes were questionable (and even some missinfo being portrayed as correct intentionally or not)

[eternal talon]

both footage show it hitting the crane.

i do agree the show does imply it was partially due to the radiation affecting the pilots

it is a dramatization at the end of the day, not a doccumentary

but i still think credit should be given where credit is due

stuff like the water tank explosion regarding the divers is obvious fiction, but was believe to be true at the time

[west pebble]

the show does not tho? from what i saw there are 2 (i think) cranes that neither are even close to the "smoke" cloud produced by the reactor

[eternal talon]

watch the hook on the crane cable

[eternal talon]

in real life the helicopter crash was much later on, most of the black smoke had cleared by then. in the show they move the event closer to the disaster timeline wise

[west pebble]

oh it does, nvm i never noticed it

[eternal talon]

*from the fire

[opal sorrel]

[eternal talon]

which one?

[opal sorrel]

second one

ugly ahh sky

eat my ass

[eternal talon]

one shitty quality youtube converter coming right up!

[opal sorrel]

ahahaha

nah nah youre good man ive seen it anyway

just been a long time

[eternal talon]

[west pebble]

two criticisms i truly have of the show is the timeline being slightly wrong for what seems to be no apparent reason and the portrayal of radiation "spreading" from person to person. This was commonly shared around and people thought to be true at the time so the show is mostly accurate but it seems like the show took it way too far since it almost seems true. Especially with the discussion between the 3 where ulana mentions the child "taking" the radiaton instead of her mother.

[eternal talon]

agree.

[west pebble]

i remember i looked into why it was moved and it kinda made sense as the plot flows much better and it is quite an impactful scene so that i do understand.

[opal sorrel]

thought this was big boss until i hovered

https://tenor.com/view/snake-salute-mgs3-gif-9277925

200% gonna play the remakes

[coral gorge]

”the portrayal of radiation spreading petson to person”… the what now

Did they portray radiation like a bacteria infection?

what

[eternal talon]

So the firefighters that came to the scene of the initial explosion were heavily irradiated, right?

[coral gorge]

ye

[west pebble]

somewhat. thing is it ain't truly innacurate to reality since at the time this was actually thought to be true by the general public at least. ( i dont know if nurses and others more qualified thought the same )

[eternal talon]

The show presumes the exposure of one of these firefighters passed through contact to the baby of the firefighters wife, still pregnant

[coral gorge]

huh

[eternal talon]

That "the radiation would have killed the mother but the baby absorbed it instead"

[coral gorge]

thats peculiar
But i guess that could make sense

[eternal talon]

As an explanation for the mothers miscarriage

Now, this woman is real, and these events are real. I just do not remember the reason for the miscarriage

Tgb was already typing, so I assume they can clarify on the state of the mother

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Ignatenko

[coral gorge]

Tbh
Id much rather expect it to be along the lines of „Mothers organism got fucked by rads and so the baby couldnt be supported by it”

[west pebble]

i don't know what happened to her, all i know it was indeed a real case but it was not the radiation that killed the baby

[eternal talon]

Yes

I do not believe the firefighters themselves became radioactive, though their clothes were (and still are) heavily irradiated

[coral gorge]

Oh yeah i see

[eternal talon]

They still put off extreme levels of radiation in the basement of the pripyat hospital today

[coral gorge]

yeah the people just got radiation burns and turbo cancer

they didnt emit radiation

[coral gorge]

And the entirety of the reactor site

[eternal talon]

Hence the new safe confinement building

[coral gorge]

russia on its way to blow it open and cause a 2nd chernobyl

[eternal talon]

During the occupation of pripyat Russian soldiers dug trenches in the dead forest. It is said that many have suffered severe radiation poisoning, but no confirmed information because a) recent, and b) russia

As during the cleanup they simply tore up the soil and planted it upside down

[coral gorge]

Top 10 uses for military personnel:
Do shit around a highly irradiated area and see what happens

[coral gorge]

oh yeah
Another glorious example of soviet engineering

[eternal talon]

I mean to be fair -- it worked and was effective

So long as you don't go digging

The dead forest is mostly off limits anyway

[coral gorge]

yeah
Im p sure nowadays they would move all the dirt somewhere else tho

[eternal talon]

I'm not entirely sure. We are talking about an absolutely insane amount of land here

[coral gorge]

and yeah i guess they didnt exactly expect to end up invading the area

[eternal talon]

A 30 kilometer radius

[coral gorge]

didnt they do smth like that for Fukushima?

or am i tripping

[eternal talon]

I am not sure. I am much less familiar with the Fukushima Daiichi incident

[west pebble]

nah, they also covered it by a set amount of dirt and left it

as long as u dont dig a hole deep enough radiation is not an issue

moving that much dirt around is faaaaar to costly and pointless, since all u are doing is moving the problem further away. The dirt is still radioactive and will stay that way for a long time

[eternal talon]

Schaeffer's nuclear meltdowns are an absolute nothingburger

Contained incidents by default, given he had all the coolant pumped out ahead of time

So no hydrogen explosions either

[west pebble]

don't the reactors in game have set shutdown procedures?

from my understanding with modern reactors they have procedures to automatically shutdown even with loss of coolant or when other issues arise

[eternal talon]

i don't know, but even if they didn't, all they would do is just melt into the bedrock beneath the reactors.

maybe penetrating a floor or two at most.

either schaeffer, or 10c, had no clue how nuclear meltdowns work

they can't explode like nukes

[west pebble]

i mean

wait

ok stupid question time

what are the chances all that water from r8d2 went under the nuclear reactor?

that could technically cause an explosion big enough to at least damage the structure of the area and maybe even cause a collapse no?

granted

actually wait

would the material inside the reactor even have the capacity to melt the floor?

[eternal talon]

depends on if you think reactors would get more safe, or less, in the 2050s

[west pebble]

eh fair... lots of speculation anyway... probably far too much to matter

[eternal talon]

given the markings, the reactors themselves were outsourced to a different company and shipped in, piece by piece

[coral gorge]

oh oh

[eternal talon]

<@&408548765599793173> NUKE THIS MAN

[coral gorge]

Lmao

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-press-button-gif-14853646

[coral gorge]

Rattle em boys

[eternal talon]

steamecommunity is fake as shit

[coral gorge]

nah wdym its so real

i got a free 50 dollars

deal of my life

lol

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/zerg-nuke-starcraft-terran-ghost-gif-26918463

back to the topic at hand, though, think the reactors melting down would honestly cause more good than bad.

it'd be passive combat against the sleepers, and would keep the warden/biocom from opening up new doors/ventalation

[coral gorge]

I mean
The only way garganta would be severely damaged/destroyed is if there was some sorta chain reaction

and a shit ton of reactors went boom

[eternal talon]

which, as we have discussed, is not how reactors work

[coral gorge]

yeah

tbh

more damage would be done if we just overloaded the system

by making smth that uses a shit ton of power

just cause a massive blackout

[eternal talon]

its all flawed tbh. the earth is already done for, doubly so with the matter wave collapse

sleepers on the surface from alt:,, god knows whatever warped straight in from destination...

[coral gorge]

tbh i wonder if any dimension anomalies appeared on the surface

[eternal talon]

we don't and probably won't know even in a sequel tbh.

that jumbled worldline would only get worse

i wonder what happens when a universe implodes

[coral gorge]

yeah, even if we wanted to make a last „fuck you” to the warden to try and kill it, theres no real reason and it’d be pointless

[coral gorge]

What happens if you warp into a supernova

the entire team and the MWP get atomized

?

[eternal talon]

a random street light gets swapped with the core of a star

[coral gorge]

Imagine

Experiment gone wrong

the entire star system is now being devoured

[west pebble]

imagine eating ur sandwich and then u are holding the equivalent of 300 tsar bombas in ur hand

fucking ohio tuesdays man

[eternal talon]

imagine your head just gets replaced with a boulder

[coral gorge]

And then the entire planet is reduced to star dust

[eternal talon]

there is no consistancy to the changes

[coral gorge]

Been there
Tough times

[eternal talon]

it seemingly just happens at random, all through r8

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-incredibly-specific-sungwon-cho-prozd-that-is-very-particular-it-is-extremely-specific-gif-17547625588004434497

[west pebble]

imagine ur arm just one day stops existing cause 99.99999% of space is empty anyway

[coral gorge]

Yeah
I mean parts of it happen when we interact with data cubes/MWP but those are only local warps

biggest one would be B2

and the big thing with scans

[eternal talon]

and then, your saving grace, the finale of the game after 80 expeditions is what, start a new life as a caveman on a jungle world?

[coral gorge]

Pretty much

cavemen with guns

and a louse idea of technology

[eternal talon]

durant's team of a dozen isn't gonna reinvent technology overnight

hell the genetic problems alone make it pointless

there is no surviving the events long term

[coral gorge]

i mean, if we can wake up everyone from hydrostasis

then theres a chance

[eternal talon]

a chance to wake up a class-F, yeah

[west pebble]

i mean better than 0 chances right?

[coral gorge]

and if they all remember their skills

[eternal talon]

still need the plants we don't have, otherwise maddox

[coral gorge]

Just dont roll the bad dice roll

[coral gorge]

Unless we took the fluid with us, somewhere

[eternal talon]

the jungle world is entirely cut off

[eternal talon]

which we didn't. we rushed out mid firefight

[coral gorge]

But in short:
If we arent infected
Can wake up everyone from hydrostasis
Every woken up person remembers their talents and how technology works and can (atleast mostly) replicate it
And there isnt a mass infertility issue
We could survive

[coral gorge]

I mean, it seems that we warp out a huge chunk of KDS Deep

so maybe we also got a fluid storage tank

somewhere

in the giant mountain of steel

[eternal talon]

pretty much just the platform and the vault itself

[coral gorge]

we dont know whats inside the walls

[eternal talon]

(which is directly above the platform)

[coral gorge]

fuck

the walls look thick!

maybe theres smth in them!

maybe some fluid left over in pipes

or whatever

[eternal talon]

i know we didn't take the reactor with us

so there is no power either

[coral gorge]

Tbh

im p sure if we took the reactor

it would infact, explode

or irradiate the shit out of us

so, back to steam power with burning coal or wood

[west pebble]

i think that might be better honestly, no way to keep it running anyway

[eternal talon]

it wouldn't explode, because schaeffer had us pump out all the coolant, but it would likely melt down into the groundwater

fun 🙂

[coral gorge]

Nah, we’d be taking the E2 reactor if anything

[eternal talon]

yeah

[coral gorge]

and that one worked flawlessly

so it should have coolant

[eternal talon]

we started it up just before we left

oh then it might have some, but not enough.

[coral gorge]

Yeah
So not a lot of coolant
But an amount

[eternal talon]

it'd probably blow then

water > steam > hydrogen

[coral gorge]

but yeah as I said before
Its highly unlikely we would survive
Although technically not impossible

Also its just possible we would be executed by the planets version of the common cold within a week

[west pebble]

u gotta do hitless c2 -> d2 -> e2 all in a row and u won't be infected right?

[eternal talon]

by that point, wouldn't durant have done too?

[eternal talon]

its not neccessarily just hitless

it's in the air