gtfo-lore

[worn rivet]

Then it imply that those kraken things can cause how the fuck else did they do that

Also one second I got to look something up

[eternal talon]

The virus and parasite survived for 65 million years 2km underground in sleepers after the collector's vessel crashed, so theoretically they could survive drifting in space if they had some form of host and protection

[eternal talon]

Kraken can cause what?

Kraken are just native lifeforms on destination that we're sleeperified, like the floaters.

They were once something akin to destination's whales, probably.

[worn rivet]

Context for this I mean that if the virus can control those things then they're probably what it used to survive the vacuum of space to wipe every universe out

[eternal talon]

we know absolutely nothing about how the virus spread between planets.

it isn't smart enough to act like halo's flood, that's for sure.

[worn rivet]

It's just a really weird theory I have also god help us if it worked like the flood we'd have lost in rundown one

Cause of how the flood bloody works

Cause even Spartans had trouble killing flood life forms I doubt bloody regular humans could kill them

[rocky wraith]

Basically if viruses have multiple entry pathways utilising multiple surface proteins, it is near impossible to develop a resistance or any measure of immunity to it.

This is because of the threshold for mutation and evolution of defences rises exponentially in regards to the number of attacked systems.

[worn rivet]

So essentially your fucked no matter what cause even the aliens who are essentially gods couldn't stop it

[eternal talon]

**The subject's physiological changes do seem to be permanent. The ossification of the fibrous cartilage in both the spine and menisci appears to start at the brain stem and spreads rapidly, possibly due to the greater intercellular space offered. Attempts to slow the spread have so far been unsuccessful.

Affected subjects show signs of cognitive reduction within a few days, which accompanies the bent or stooped posture. They are able to continue menial work for several weeks (possibly longer), before succumbing to the pain and physical disability.

Opiates and derivatives ease the pain of the subjects, and we have been administering liberally as no other form of palliative care appears to work. We have noticed some patients grow particularly sensitive to light and sound, and will scream in pain if disturbed. It is not clear why this behavior is exhibited in some and not others.

The effect on the skeleton is unmitigated and I cannot see any treatment path. I have our entire cellular biology department working on this, but so far little progress has been made. Even after the parasite is removed, the viral load increases. We cannot stop the progress of the virus, and our only defense is SCBA Level A suits when in NAM-V hotspots. Even with this level of protection, the parasites are finding their way in.

Transition from initial diagnosis to cellular collapse takes approximately 6 weeks. We have yet to discover what happens thereafter. I will keep you posted.**

^ found another log

[rocky wraith]

Essentially. It's one of the main evidences for why the virus is considered engineered

[eternal talon]

@worn rivet

[rocky wraith]

Because maintaining 3 attack strategies is evolutionarily unfavourable in the short term because of the maintenance effort to retain more than one.

[worn rivet]

Huh thanks for this I'm going to use these when I eventually have to explain to my new team I found what and how the virus works

[eternal talon]

"Parasitidae" Garganta, the parasite, is named after a family of bugs here on earth, mites, basically. it perfectly matches the description.
here is an image, nightmare fuel so if you unspoiler you are warned

[worn rivet]

What the ever living fuck

[eternal talon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitidae

ah, well, thanks discord embedded.

defeats the purpose of spoiler to hide the image

[worn rivet]

I like how they took the name of the mine from these too cause if I rember correctly isn't one if them called garganta

[eternal talon]

(clarification note: Parasitidae Garganta are not parasitidae. they aren't from earth, they are alien in nature, same as the virus)

[eternal talon]

well technically they have two names in lore.

Parasitidae Garganta and Parasitidae Hammerstein, but fuck giving that asshole credit

they have like half a dozen subspecies, also named after him, "gallus"

**### Entry: Gallus {genus}
Poss. intro? fix end bit
/quote
There are cross-species behavioral distinctions that separate all species within the genus. The dark-skinned variants tend to be more active hunters, suggesting the darker pigmentation is a product of natural selection. They are harder to see and therefore more successful predators. The light skinned breed are still vicious and will attack at the slightest provocation, but they do not seek the prey as actively, they are more disposed to sedentary, almost somnific, behavior. They wait, and strike when roused.
/quote

Entry: Gallus Reptus

Paragraph on:

• Reptus show little signs of intelligence beyond their predatory instincts. Clarify the intraspecific devolution theory?
• possibility of structured hierarchy among the pack, and the role of Reptus in that hierarchy
• possibility that Reptus are a post-metamorphic stage of Jaculus? Note no confirmed sightings of Jaculus in a pupal state.
• NEED DNA SAMPLE

Entry: Gallus Jaculus

• more intelligent than Reptus, or given a more strategic role in the hive?
• what are the implications of emergent intelligence.
• potential human connection/influence. Mimicry or symbiont relationship with parasite?
• remove that woman from the team

Entry: Gallus Capreolatus

Name options:

• Capreolatus
• Cirrhus
• Pampinarii
• Clavicula
  Discuss tendril hypotheses :
• diphyllobothrium latum mimicry?
• siphonophore/zooids theory
• NEED DNA SAMPLE

Gallus Horridus

• advanced predation techniques
• purpose of keratinous growths unclear. does it charge under threat?
• NEED DNA SAM**

[worn rivet]

Wait I thought they were just two separate mines also quick question who is Hammerstein it's been while

[eternal talon]

huh?

[worn rivet]

I meant wgi

[eternal talon]

Gallus Hammerstein is the name of the head researcher at Project Insight

what do you mean mines?

there is only the one, garganta.

[worn rivet]

I was watching a video and they said something about two mines has to ask also yeah fuck Hammerstein hes a prick

[eternal talon]

please don't rely on youtube or reddit for gtfo lore... both are either wildly out of date or outright wrong.

like, to my knowledge Scaler has one of-date lore video, and even that doesn't cover pretty much anything beyond r8.

[worn rivet]

It just really confused me also couldn't it work with the alt rundown universe or whatever you call those having a different name for it then the normal one

[eternal talon]

read this doccument, (just ignore the gameplay summary section, as it is out of date)

(you'll need to download or click view whole file, as its too big to just expand)

[worn rivet]

Ugh just a quick question is there a reason for all ths symbols in the file

[eternal talon]

wdym symbols?

the "- - - - - - - - -"?

its to break up sections, make it easier to read

[worn rivet]

I mean like the € symbols also tm symbol

[eternal talon]

where do you see that?

[worn rivet]

Also when it break out in the 16th century its essentially the black plauge

[worn rivet]

It's right at the beginning of it

[eternal talon]

there is no fucking way you are reading it this fast

[eternal talon]

i genuinely don't see that and am so confused

[loud urchin]

there'll likely be an error with formatting somewhere

or the file being translated wrongly

one of those things that can happen if you open a document in an unsupported program or whatever

[worn rivet]

Its during the pre apocalypse bit it says it got out and then wiped out the people around it I'm also popping in here and saying things as I read them

[eternal talon]

its a .txt... like, i'm not sure how more basic a file can get

its not even a word or doc

[worn rivet]

I think it's just some kind of formatting thing it's a really good file though so far informative as hell

Heres something I've noticed it says they ran into an anolmy at some point into their digging was it possible that it's where we fight the big kraken in r8e2

[eternal talon]

no, because the r8e2 boss fight, terrain and all, is just teleported straight from destination and displaced the earth around it.

like noclipping

the matter wave collapse smashing the two worlds together, causing bizzare side-effects

[worn rivet]

Heres something I've noticed theres a character called dr richtofer which I think is a reference to dr rictofen from cod zombies

[eternal talon]

we don't know, but probably not.

we never hear about them again after the log in question

[worn rivet]

Yeah also they both kinda in there universes caused an outbreak of some kind coincidence

[eternal talon]

i don't understand this sentence

[worn rivet]

In cod zombies rictofen causes the zombie outbreak that essentially dooms that universe to death by the sound of it dr richtofer started a virus outbreak in one of the wings

[eternal talon]

Richtofer and Hammerstein were not the two individuals that ignored quarantine protocols. Hammerstein dies much later.

[worn rivet]

I'm confused by the what the document says then

This is literally what it says

[eternal talon]

However, as is the case in most post-apocalyptic storylines, two --idiots-- researchers didn't follow quarantine procedure and contaminated the entire wing of the facility. is a separate line. this happened after the quarantine was established Although there was no reason to suspect any biological or viral threat in quadrant 18 where the artifacts were recovered, the area was subjected to a level 3 quarantine. after the first two artifacts were recovered and sent for study

[worn rivet]

Also could the biocom system just be another name for the warden

[eternal talon]

1: tunnel dug out, miners find artifacts
2: send artifacts for study
3: study artifacts
4: quarantine established in zone
5: quarantine broken

[worn rivet]

Oh this makes more sense

[eternal talon]

its a different set of researchers, presumably looking for more artifacts

[worn rivet]

Thanks

[eternal talon]

the doc is just written to be read through fast because its soooo much fucking text

already, this is the most compressed i could make it while still including everything and its massive

[worn rivet]

Thanks I'm like actually reading this and its probably the best I've seen definitely what I'm going to send to my team who's helping me get through the game

[eternal talon]

the doc has been refined and updated every new game update for years, since OGr6.

its slightly out of date now, (which is why it is no-longer pinned).
i was working on a .pdf update, but never finished it

its still a good tool if you keep in mind it has some minor issues

i'd say its like... 98% accurate

its just that 2%

[worn rivet]

Something I would like to add is that by 2054 and beyond I think we can agree is when the world is just absolutely fucked my only question is why at that point they didnt just nuke everything

I mean if theres no cure just go out in a blaze of glory

[eternal talon]

all of the nations went into quarantine and closed their borders. there were probably nukes and smaller wars going on, but everybody died too fast for it to ultimately matter.

they didn't establish the source of where the virus came from until at least half of the planet was dead already

thats the thing with nam-v, its like god-mode OP. there really isn't much you can do. Garganta is an allagory for pandora's box.

[worn rivet]

Oh that's what It reminds me of makes sense also who in that scenario is pandoea

Pandora

[eternal talon]

iirc pandora is the woman who was gifted the box by the greek gods

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora

[worn rivet]

I know who she is the reason I'm saying this is that in this case who would be to blame I think it's one of the companies faults

[eternal talon]

if you knew everything? Dreyfus industries.

but pretty much nobody knew the true story of what happened.

Dreyfus owns Santonian, Insight, and brought Kovac into Garganta after Kovac cought them being naughty and burning the bodies of red-cross workers so that they could dig at the site to begin with, covering up the scale of the disaster that was the merida quake

Morally? kovac is probably worse, but they are both absolutely horrible

it's greed. greed caused them to open the box.

[worn rivet]

So essentially for the events of gtfo we can officially say FUCK dreyfus

[eternal talon]

i mean, yeah, but pretty much every single character in the game and lore is morally evil, or neutral at best.

gtfo is practically grimdark

[lone beacon]

what about Bishop?

[eternal talon]

blackmail is morally questionable, but he didn't deserve being KSOified.

if nothing else he tried to rebell against the system.

Hackett too to an extent, he was fucked, but at least he knew he was fucked and volunteered as a way to "atone"

[worn rivet]

No I personally dont think compared to what the others did that he deserved being KSOfied

[eternal talon]

thats what i said?

[worn rivet]

But is there a difference between what non alt and alt bishop did if I may ask

[eternal talon]

not that i know, they are pretty much the same

[worn rivet]

So they both try blackmail and they both absolutely fucking failed

[worn rivet]

Also the file doesn't mention If the regular rundown survivors did what i think the alt rundown survivors did in their last fucking stand

[eternal talon]

have you played r8?

like, finished it?

the second half of R8 you play as the OG squad. the first half you play as the ALT:// squad

OG is the reason why ALT:// die

we steal the data cubes and fuck off without them

we are a single door away from them

we can hear them fighting, even

[worn rivet]

I mean the survivors who didnt go into the hsus they went into a place with a metric shit ton of bio entitys

[eternal talon]

wdym?

there were pretty much no survivors besides schaeffer.

[worn rivet]

And all fucking died I meant sid the normal rundown survivors do what they dis

[eternal talon]

(and the KSOs, but they are practically biological robots so I don't count them)

[worn rivet]

Its said in one of the logs I think that the non hsu entering survivors got together and went into a room with a metric fuck ton of bio scanner pings and presumably all just fucking died

[eternal talon]

Hearsay on. We have destroyed the world, and there will be no one left to hold us accountable. The board made that very clear. Some of the team have families and are insisting they be allowed to leave, but they won't let us go. We will die here; unless, somehow, we find a way to stop this virus. The answer has to be in the Inner, I know it. There's an area we've sealed off with several bulkheads; a chamber with a biomass larger than anything we've seen before. Thousands of biosigs and at least one unknown, massive, organism. We've avoided dealing with it, but we're out of time. Tomorrow. We have to face it, and this time I'm going with them. I refuse to die a cautious man. I choose to fight. Tomorrow, we open the doors. Hearsay off.

there isn't a single mention of HSUs in this log

also it is dated Date: November 24th 2056

[worn rivet]

This is what I meant it implys that they all went into that area and decided to fight whatever the fuck was in there also is this alt or normal rundown

Also they all just fucking died in a honestly heroic and fucking dumb death

[eternal talon]

this is alt:// only, not OG worldline

but in both schaeffer describes wandering alone for a while in the r6 extension logs, eventually going to KDS-DEEP

as far as we know none of the normal staff were able to enter HSUs besides schaeffer and dauda

[worn rivet]

Okay so I'm asking in the og worldine( thanks for letting me know the name) did they go down like the alt wordline did

[eternal talon]

garganta only has 8k outside of DEEP and 24k inside, and almost all were occupied by KSOs as the warden recalled them

[eternal talon]

no, the log doesn't exist in OG.

we don't know how they died.

just that schaeffer/dauda were the last people standing

[worn rivet]

Okay so we just dont know well I now know what my head cannon is also how quick was dauda thinking cause if a load of sleepers were breaking down the door they would have broken it ridiculously fast. Also schaffer is ridiculously smart for doing what he did

[eternal talon]

would you like to hear it? the entire event is on an audio log

[worn rivet]

Cause he would have starved no matter what he did so he might as well go down later then now

[worn rivet]

Also yes I would

[eternal talon]

yes, same situation as schaeffer. Schaeffer stood locked in DEEP for over a week before he entered hydrostasis (fearing starvation)

dauda though... had a more urgent reason to enter the pod

[lone beacon]

"Doctor Dauda is revealed as a coward!"

is such a hard line

[eternal talon]

1:30 is when they start breaking down the door

70 seconds till door break

[worn rivet]

Thanks for the link just about to listen also how did dauda just not die cause alot of sleepers can break a door really fast

[eternal talon]

0:40

"the creatures are not able to break the pods--"

[worn rivet]

Okay so three things when say door I mean the door they were banging on at the end of the log. Second dauda seems to hate himself for what he did in the past in this log. Third what nationality Is dauda because he has a somewhat thick accent and I'm interested

[eternal talon]

he is African. Nigerian, i think.

[eternal talon]

dauda was in charge of human experimentation. he has a whole lot to regret.

[worn rivet]

Huh wait I've got the file open I'll check

[raw terrace]

yes :3

dauda accent my beloved

love it

[eternal talon]

yes, you can hear the sleepers start beating on it at 1:30, 70 seconds total until it breaks

(also you can tell from the sound ITS A BLOOD DOOR)

not a normal sec door, but a zone door

the giant blue ones

they tore it open

[worn rivet]

That's a ridiculously thick door so oh god that's horrific

I'm going to do some calculations real quick be back

[worn rivet]

What would you say the average thickness of the doors would be

[eternal talon]

i'd say....
including frame, 1.5-2ft

door itself up to a foot, probably somewhere between 8-12 inches

[raw terrace]

i still want someone to measure a giant with the sniper

would give so much info

[worn rivet]

Right so if they broke on of those in 70 seconds sorry for the math let's presume the doors they broke down is 10 Inches doing some math every 7 seconds they broke down an inch of that door width wise

So I'm doing this to figure out how many were attacking him how long does it take one standard sleeper to break down a standard door

Cause with that knowledge I can piece together how many there were

[eternal talon]

you are going to hate this--
mechanically it is the same speed in-game if you have one sleeper or 20 of them

[worn rivet]

Oh great I'm going to gone for a minute so uh shit

Wait was it just sleepers or was anything else attacking him in that clip

[eternal talon]

from the sfx it was just basic strikers

[raw terrace]

a hybrid too

[worn rivet]

Okay thank fuck or this would be even more

[raw terrace]

cuaz u hear the many projectiles hitting a surface

[eternal talon]

you hear a hybrid?

[raw terrace]

not the scream

[worn rivet]

Okay fuck me great even more math

[raw terrace]

the hybrids do a specific sfx when attacking

i hear that

the 7k projectile launch

[eternal talon]

idk. i might hear it, but its so muddy i could be mistaken.

i can't say for sure

[worn rivet]

Uh how long does a singular hybrid take to break a door or is it the same as regular strikers

[eternal talon]

1 sec, but pretty sure it is identical for all enemies

[worn rivet]

Cause if it's not the same then its more natg

For me

[worn rivet]

Wait what do you mean one second doesn't it take more than one

[eternal talon]

there are only two settings in the game.

{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_DoorBreakerStriker.prefab",
"AbilityType": "DoorBreaker",
"Cooldown": 1.0
} and
** {
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_DoorBreakerShooter.prefab",
"AbilityType": "DoorBreaker",
"Cooldown": 1.0
}**

hybrid uses the shooter prefab.

** {
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_DoorBreakerShooter.prefab",
"AbilityType": "DoorBreaker",
"Cooldown": 1.0
},
{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_StrikerMelee.prefab",
"AbilityType": "Melee",
"Cooldown": 2.0
}
],
"name": "Shooter_Big_RapidFire",
"internalEnabled": true,
"persistentID": 33**

but im still fairly sure the stats are identical, its just anims

so same damage/time-to-break

[worn rivet]

Okay right give me a minute wait how fucking thick are the regular doors

Cause that changes fucking everything

[eternal talon]

just that any number of enemies always takes the same amount of time to break a door, regardless of number, and regardless of type

[raw terrace]

the only enemy that can break doors faster are snatchers cuz tthey act funny but every enemy is the same

but no snatchies in that audio

[eternal talon]

uhhhh.... 2-8. it has reinforced beams, but the bits between are very thin

[eternal talon]

*inches

[eternal talon]

really? it says in the DBs that they just use the strikerdoorbreaker. the cooldown isn't any different, they are all 1.0

"AI_Abilities": [
{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_PouncerDashAttack.prefab",
"AbilityType": "Melee",
"Cooldown": 5.0
},
{
"Enabled": true,
"AbilityPrefab": "Assets/AssetPrefabs/Characters/Enemies/Abilities/EAB_DoorBreakerStriker.prefab",
"AbilityType": "DoorBreaker",
"Cooldown": 1.0
}

[raw terrace]

uses strikerdoorbreaker but i believe the hitbox first absorbs all foam plus hits the door multiple times

[worn rivet]

Okay so I'm going to put this here before anyone adds anything it takes about I'm going to presume that by LORE stand point it takes them about 5-8 seconds to break down a standard door and going off my previous math it took them seven seconds to break one inch off that door doing some fucking really batshit insane math I'm going to determine that's it was about 5 maybe 6 different sleepers/hybrids attacking him

[raw terrace]

omggg deleted message

D:

also why doing measurements with the normal door

when it sounds like a sec door

[worn rivet]

What do you mean fucking secondary door

[eternal talon]

he's trying to compare to estimate if the 70 seconds in the audio log is accurate

to determine how many sleepers... but any number of sleepers take the same amount of time...

i dont know what he is doing.

[eternal talon]

the blue doors. don't have a heart attack

i'm fairly certain the audio log isn't a rotating door

those fuckers are like 4-5 FEET thick.

[raw terrace]

sounds like a blood door- so it a blue door

[worn rivet]

I'm going insane that's what because with what you've said even one sleeper can easily if it wants to break one of those doors

[eternal talon]

yeah

[eternal talon]

on normal doors: any number of sleepers, any type, any combination. always the exact same time-to-break.
on blue doors: they can't break them in gameplay

[worn rivet]

I'm going to try the secondary doors now

[eternal talon]

12 inches per foot...

do you even american

2 feet is 24 inches

what are you even calculating

[worn rivet]

How long one singular fealer is going to take to break a secondary door

Or hybrid if they do the same thing

[worn rivet]

So thanks

[eternal talon]

fealer?

[worn rivet]

I'm meant the tentacle bastards that alert rooms if you trigger them not whatever the fuck that is

[eternal talon]

spaghetti

scouts

[worn rivet]

Thank you one second so I can write this all down

So if it takes one scout 7 seconds to break down one inch of those blue doors and the secondary doors are presumbly 4 feet long and every foot is 24 inches the math equals out to one fealer can break a hole in a secondary door if my math is correct in about 672 seconds

And not accounting for reinforcements or extra people there

[eternal talon]

-- yet its been years and the sleepers are still beating on blood doors

(in gameplay)

[worn rivet]

The math does not fucking math so to say

One second

[eternal talon]

sometimes the lore doesn't lore either.

[worn rivet]

I'm going to do some maths on something and will offline temporally please dont say something that destroys my math

Wait how long do like the big fuckers with bubbles on there back take also whats there names

I call them tanks but what are there like normal names

[eternal talon]

tanks?

[worn rivet]

Yes those big fuckers

That's there actual name

[eternal talon]

like i said before, its all the same. 10 tanks beat down doors at the same speed as a single baby.

[worn rivet]

How the ever living fuck does that work the math is fucking impossible

[eternal talon]

hahahaha

[worn rivet]

To do cause how does a fucking child do that at the same fucking speed a like 10 foot tank does

It doesn't fucking make sense

I'm fucking going insane over maths what the fuck

Game no game math no math

[eternal talon]

because in GTFO doors only have three states and a health bar. (open, closed, broken)

the health bar doesn't take damage per se. if you look at an enemy "beating down a door", it is just standing there. the door checks if it is "being broken" so ticks down the door's health at the same rate as long as that check is completed.

doesn't matter if 50 enemies are completing the check, or three.

it either is checked, or it isnt.

[worn rivet]

That makes sense but you'd think theyd make the higher health enemy's do more also how the fuck does c-foam work then

[eternal talon]

its a true/false value, not a variable so-to-say

[eternal talon]

it adds health to the door

so it takes longer for it to tick down (at the same rate of X health per second)

[worn rivet]

I've been staring at a fucking calculator for 5 fucking minutes trying to do this ahhhhh

[eternal talon]

a fully foamed door has something like 300 extra health vastly off

Small doors have 7 health, while large doors have 12 health. C-foaming a door adds 13.5 health to the door.

Sleepers deal 1 damage every time they hit the door. So small doors will take 7 hits (21 while foamed) and large doors will take 12 hits (26 while foamed). The amount and the type of sleepers attacking the door does not matter, they will still require the same amount of hits (and time) to break the door.

[raw terrace]

:3 smol doors weakos

[eternal talon]

Additionally, enemies have a global cool-down (shared by all enemies) after damaging a door before any are allowed to damage a door again. This means that a large number of enemies all trying to damage a door won't damage it any faster than a small number of enemies trying to damage the same door. This also means that if enemies are trying to break multiple doors at once, they'll split their hits between the doors, and take much longer than usual to break any of the given doors. (When they are attempting to break multiple doors at once, in general, they are more likely to damage the one with more enemies on it.)

[royal crow]

what happened here

why is there GTFO tech here

[raw terrace]

door shenanigans

[eternal talon]

explaining how doors work

mechanically vs in lore.
this convo started with the Dauda log of him entering hydrostasis and sleepers beating down the blood door (audio log)

RT has been trying to do math with in-game numbers that don't care about math realism

[worn rivet]

I'm trying to calculate how long a sleeper takes to break down a blood door so I can then try to figure out how many standard strikers there were also apparently there was a hybrid there cause in a dauda audio log a few of them do that to a blood door

[eternal talon]

also, i didn't know the second half of this about door hits being split. very helpful to know.

[worn rivet]

And I'm slowly going insane cause of maths

[eternal talon]

the default blood door has one hybrid and something like 10 strikers

i don't remember the exact number, as its a variable

but its almost always either 9, 10, or 11 (i forget which)

[worn rivet]

Which doing maths they take like 6.363636 stretching by 7 64 seconds to break one inch so what the fuck

[eternal talon]

also wouldn't the material of the doors matter in your math?

[worn rivet]

Is the maths which also doesn't account for the height of the door

[eternal talon]

steel is stronger than clay, etc

or are you assuming pure steel

[worn rivet]

And then there the fucking material which is another thing of its self

[eternal talon]

(and which type of steel, because steel is an alloy)

[worn rivet]

I did that on just normal shit give me about ten minutes and I'll get back to you

[eternal talon]

hahaha.
honestly i think this topic is so futile its funny.
when they recorded the log they probably just used the default settings of one hybrid and just under a dozen strikers

all this math you are doing for such a minor number of zero significance

[worn rivet]

Quick question what's the name of this particular log

[eternal talon]

they are all at least 6'.

[worn rivet]

And which rundown is it from

[eternal talon]

OGr5

[eternal talon]

245_ST-555.LOG oops, wrong log
MBCQ-11W-MDU.LOG

[worn rivet]

Yeah cause that's the dauda bitshit nightmare log

Okay I'm just fucking giving up this is fucking dumb as shit

But thanks for all the help with this shit

[worn rivet]

Quick question how did henrikson survive up until he was killed by Schaffer

With a metal pipe

Which is also how he kills alt schaffer

[eternal talon]

there is only OG schaeffer.

ALT:// schaeffer never rebelled, so no reason to wake him. ALT:// henriksson iis still sleepy

[worn rivet]

The Schaffer he kills in the drainage room

[eternal talon]

we kill both schaeffers in drainage

[worn rivet]

I mean

[eternal talon]

or schaeffer kills one schaeffer, and we drown the other

depends how fast we put in the code

[worn rivet]

No then who is that other schaffer

[eternal talon]

wdym?

[raw terrace]

schagger

[eternal talon]

r8 is post matter wave collapse

[worn rivet]

Is is it alt or is it another one

[eternal talon]

there are probably a dozen schaeffers running around

[raw terrace]

i mean but it does kill the alt

even if there are others doing schaeffer stuff somewhere

[worn rivet]

Cause I'm majorly confused cause I always thought that the schaffer who died with og Schaffer is alt Schaffer

[raw terrace]

the one that dies is the one we know from the other levels still

[eternal talon]

yes?

[raw terrace]

yes

ok the major confusion disappeared ksdmkm

[eternal talon]

what confused you?

[worn rivet]

Thank you I was getting confused

The bloody matter wave shit confuses me cause I always thought it was two worldlines collapsing into one another not like a dozen

Cause why dont we run into them during any r8 mission then

[raw terrace]

probs cuz they dont know whats happenin

but we do run into our own corpses

several times

one in r6cx, r8a1, r8d1

and probs nother one im forgettin

so there is multiple lines coming together but those two schaeffers r the only ones we know about

[eternal talon]

we do. they're dead.

[worn rivet]

Oh I didnt know about the r6cx one actually knew about the others

[raw terrace]

the others probs died or just r roaming around somewhere far

[raw terrace]

silly lil guys

[worn rivet]

Who or what killed us cause it couldn't be the creatures theres not any big like wounds

On us to indicate it

[eternal talon]

(ignore lighting and white eyes, was running the game in fullbright)

[raw terrace]

being all ded

[worn rivet]

Just mud

[eternal talon]

the one in alt://r6cx has a log for it.

[worn rivet]

Also the clothes and stuff aren't ripped or anything just nothing

[raw terrace]

but that was the creatura wasnt it

[worn rivet]

To indicate how they died

[raw terrace]

not the actual others

[raw terrace]

thats just probs not wanting to change the model

if u wanna have a lore explanation uh uhh tongues hit u

and projectiles

not claws

[eternal talon]

Hearsay on. Kovac Defense Services had a cloning program called Rise. They wanted to mass produce soldiers instead of using recruits, and they were getting pretty close. They managed to produce living specimens, but they were weak and didn't survive. I've been trying to figure out why the Warden has had mercenaries gathering resources and samples from the Rise program, but it wasn't clear... until today. I saw something. Someone. It was a human, approximately. It was standing in the middle of a mass of creatures, and they weren't attacking it. The creatures knew it was there, but... pheromones? Temperature? Some kind of... social or behavioral characteristic? I don't know. Then a quad of mercenaries came through a security door and before the creatures attacked them, this human - clone; I think - reached a hand out to them. Then the creatures attacked the mercenaries, and by the time the chaos was over, the clone was dead and so were two of the mercenaries. The clone clearly didn't want to hurt the mercenaries. It was trying to communicate. It was weak and looked like it was dying, but... If I see another one like it, I'm going to try to talk to it. Him. Yes, him. Hearsay off.

[eternal talon]

it was the group of sleepers.

the KSOs opened fire

[worn rivet]

Okay yeah that makes sense how does that no cause in lore not like a hole or anything guess it's just not wanting to make different models also context on my earlier maths shit j was going to try to maybe use it for a weird homework thing

Which now that I think I could have chosen something a little less confusing

[eternal talon]

because in alt://r6cx -- this scene is forshadowing. the first inkling, hint, of the collapse that is very soon to come

[worn rivet]

Okay noted look at all this when my team gets there later into the game

[eternal talon]

these kind of "malfunctions" with the device have been happening for years, too.

before garganta collapsed, Insight lost an entire wing of their lab to it.

the issues just kept stacking up and up.

recall R6a1, where you get warped just by touching the damn thing.

if its always been doing that, then how did they get it to their lab?

the answer is that its a new issue, and the pre-existing ones are getting worse.

[worn rivet]

Doesn't that also happen during I think first mission of r8 where alt team touches it and goes to a different dimension

[eternal talon]

i believe so.

to the nightmare dimension, exclusive to r8

[worn rivet]

I'm sorry nightmare what

[worn rivet]

Looks like the upside down but with less vines and better lighting

[eternal talon]

like most worldlines, we don't have an official name for it. those sleepers are called "nightmare_BLANK" in the code, so people just call it that

[worn rivet]

Okay that's good so we have a makeshift name

From the code

For it

[eternal talon]

like snatchers are called pouncers in the code, chargers are called bullrush, etc etc.

the kraken is called squidward (no joke)...

or squid_boss, it depends on the DB

[worn rivet]

What okay noted some of their names but going to keep dogs for snatchers and feelers for the scouts

Cause why not

Also the squidward thing is nice

Also I might have nicked the names for a YouTube series on the game which is also where I got the two mine thing from way earlier

Might have been a guy by the name of astralspiff

[raw terrace]

yes lol lmao

[worn rivet]

Also might have to see if his group has name for the kraken of they do will nick unfortunately they're furvest attempt of r8e2 is they all died during the kraken fight

Which is funny

[royal crow]

They already did E2

They completed it like 2 days ago

Check spliff extras

[worn rivet]

Wait what give me a second where did they say that

[royal crow]

spiff extras channel

[worn rivet]

Let's fucking go they bloody did after 5 months almost 6 they beat it now we wait till the next video is out

So hell yeah

[worn rivet]

Also thanks it would have taken me ages to find out they beat it

[royal crow]

Lol
I didnt even know that channel existed until someone said it here

[worn rivet]

[worn rivet]

Right I know I've asked about 15 different questions but this is my final one how tall are we in gtfo

[eternal talon]

we are all roughly the same height.

[worn rivet]

Because stuff like tanks tower over us

So how tall are they

[eternal talon]

if i had to guess what that height was? between 5'10" and 6'0"

probably closer to 5'10"

[worn rivet]

Then how short are we if tanks are 5'10

Or is it the other way around are we 5'10

[eternal talon]

no, i thought you meant how tall we are

tanks are easily 7'

[worn rivet]

Okay that makes more sense now

Okay thanks

[eternal talon]

here is a tank (the immortal pablo) to scale with a door.

[worn rivet]

I'm totally not calculating how hard they could theoretically hit

[eternal talon]

well then your math would be wrong.

we are chemically and biologically enhanced.

and thems aren't known numbers!

[worn rivet]

When I say how hard I mean like how far a normal human would be thrown if they get hit by them

[eternal talon]

consider what you do know, then

a fully charged swing can smash a skull like a watermelon

we can do this with a bat

[safe gale]

pablo in tekken 9 confirmed?!?

[eternal talon]

now calculate how much force it would take to have a cudgel obliterate a skull

[eternal talon]

we can do this with a knife

how much force would it take for a knife to make a watermelon explode

[worn rivet]

Problem is that the virus plus decaying has significantly decreased its strength

Of Durablity

I mean

[safe gale]

what types of military knifes can we use, am not familiar with knives irl besides basic fruit cutting knives and a lil of big knives

[royal crow]

Military knifes are small tho

Pocket sized

[eternal talon]

padlocks

[safe gale]

uhh

[worn rivet]

What I mean is that the virus has probably slightly decreased the skull durability

[eternal talon]

spear the padlock, RT.

[safe gale]

what knives can we use then to deal maximum trauma damage

does blunt trauma count?

[worn rivet]

Oh my god a spear breaks a padlock shit the force that must posses is uncountable

[safe gale]

a spear looks like its made out of actual drilling material which is good to its name

[eternal talon]

how many taps for a knife to break a lock?

is it 2 or 3?

[royal crow]

4

[eternal talon]

(fully charged)

[royal crow]

Ah

2

[royal crow]

Actually it's like 6-7 small taps lol

[eternal talon]

okay, calculate how much force to shatter a padlock with a thrust of a knife -- then divide by 2.

BOOM

ez

and its a fixed-blade knife, so there are IRL comparisons

[worn rivet]

Okay one second

[eternal talon]

in-game the mastaba is a fixed blade.

i own one, they are quite big.

[royal crow]

Ah yes ingame

[eternal talon]

i have a 4.8 inch Gerber StrongArm

[royal crow]

But usually the military uses pocket knifes

Nothing too big

Just big enough to cut clothes or a rope

[eternal talon]

yes, but in-game it is a FIXED BLADE

[royal crow]

ingame

[eternal talon]

it is at least 6 inches.

[royal crow]

You want to FULL CAP ME FROSTY?

[eternal talon]

in the hand, it is bigger than mine, even looking at pictures rn to compare

[eternal talon]

i have a physical knife in front of me

[royal crow]

I have a small knife too

[eternal talon]

unless KSOs have baby hands...

its longer than my 4.8 inch

[royal crow]

I need to find it
I Lost it somewhere in my room

[worn rivet]

Which I would just like to add could imply that the genetic enhancements have some stuff to their body's maybe

[worn rivet]

Okay I take that back that is big ass knife

[eternal talon]

LIKE I SAID

i know my knives...

[royal crow]

I want to eat it

[eternal talon]

w... wha?

what's that supposed to mean?

[worn rivet]

Seriously what do you mean

[royal crow]

i
Want
To
Eat
It

[royal crow]

Yummy

[safe gale]

pablo how about i make you actual food

or get actual food pics

[worn rivet]

Or we could see what c-foam tastes like

[royal crow]

Please do

[eternal talon]

i'm sorry, i HAVE to post it...

[safe gale]

aight, allthough unfortunately i just left home to uni otherwise i wouldnt mind to use this as an excuse to make a feast of a breakfast

[royal crow]

Old c-foam was wild

I like it

[worn rivet]

Or we could see what the floating spaghetti looking things taste like

[royal crow]

😔

[safe gale]

i have this pic for now, 4 glp-1's

gtfo-cooking-recipes

[worn rivet]

Or especially what does glp-1's taste like

[royal crow]

Whats that

[eternal talon]

you know GLP-1s are real, right?

[royal crow]

Square taco?

[eternal talon]

i feel like we literally just had this conversation...

[worn rivet]

I'm sorry what

[royal crow]

Maybe

Maybe it was 2 days ago

[safe gale]

a middle eastern dish called mottabaque

[royal crow]

I have no clue

[eternal talon]

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/13901-glp-1-agonists

[safe gale]

i forgot, is glp 1 considerer a protein or something like that so i can call my funny dish filled with protein

[eternal talon]

it was inside you all along...

[worn rivet]

My only question is why does the warden need these

He asks for them during certain objectives

[eternal talon]

stuff to do with the neonates/units/conduits/rise

it has us collect GLP-2s when we work on making the replacement in r7 after OG schaeffer killed the last one

[safe gale]

can it make me less skinny

[worn rivet]

I'm sorry what

Not to Cubs one but to your one

Gtfo lore master

[eternal talon]

hm?

biology?

[royal crow]

Who needs insulin to live 🥱

[worn rivet]

Oh wait I forgot about how one of the schaffers destroys it

[safe gale]

am actually curious on how an average human will implode with no insulin

specially with the food products we use nowadays

[eternal talon]

#Diabetics?

[worn rivet]

Okay I'm starting to think that everyone in this server is dlighty bonkers/insane

[eternal talon]

how so?

[royal crow]

Dibetics have skill issue

[eternal talon]

he beats it to death with a lead pipe. would you like to listen to the bloodcurtling screams?

[royal crow]

Yes

Send the log

[worn rivet]

Yes

Send

[safe gale]

i did a quick google on my curiousity, glucose simply doesnt get into the cells straight up

[royal crow]

Damn biology

I hate this

[safe gale]

i like biology because it changes my perspective on how things work

[royal crow]

I don't
Fuck biology

Stupid shit

[royal crow]

Virus

[eternal talon]

I'M THE FUCKING VIRUS

[royal crow]

Damn

Mods, nuke this user

[worn rivet]

To awnser this one uh one some of what @royal crow has said in the past hour or so, second we play a game where we casually commit mass genocide and were okay with it, third our main 4 characters are all fuckheads who deserve to die, fourth and to quote you "would you like to listen to its blood curdling screams" we all said yes immediately end of my case

[safe gale]

lol

[eternal talon]

the unit screaming Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa will never not be funny.

[royal crow]

Frostty

What the fuck

[eternal talon]

what, is it because its technically still a baby? (mentally speaking)

[royal crow]

Yeah right

We like to beat babies

[safe gale]

sounds like some good shit to smoke

[worn rivet]

Also quick question why is what Schaffer saying being echoes by something

In this log

[royal crow]

He is crazy

[eternal talon]

OG Schaeffer was totally batshit

[worn rivet]

But like its physically being echoed by someone

[safe gale]

this makes me wonder how many babies can you hit at once at mother's birth, like do they spawn inside each other until they move or spawn spaced?

[eternal talon]

i'm like 99% it is just this recording of it.

somebody else in the background's mic or something

[royal crow]

They spawn in the same spot until they moved

[worn rivet]

Not just Schaffers insanity this time like proper being echoed I think he even says so during what he says in the log

[safe gale]

if i had to guess you can kill 3~ babies per knife swing

[royal crow]

In theory if they all spawned at the same time
And dont move
You could get all of them with a single melee

[eternal talon]

they occupy the same space then rapidly spread out, minecraft style

[safe gale]

i love how you say minecraft style

yeah thats silly

[worn rivet]

It is

[eternal talon]

but you know exactly what i mean, right?

[worn rivet]

Right?

[safe gale]

i played minecraft again recently, i should knife

know

both

[royal crow]

Cube³

[safe gale]

cube cubed the cubed

[eternal talon]

who wants to talk about how the sleepers aren't zombies and the infected are still alive?

[royal crow]

I need replay R8

And R6

And R7

[worn rivet]

I'm sorry fucking what

[eternal talon]

to this day i've still not played through r4 or r5

[royal crow]

The sleepers are alive since the brain is intact

[worn rivet]

How the fuck are they still alive

[royal crow]

Or most of it

[eternal talon]

according to the DEVs in interviews, the sleepers are not zombies

[royal crow]

Kinda like the TLOU infection

[eternal talon]

eirgo: the infected, puppeted hosts are still alive in there

[safe gale]

for me i feel like this is most true with shooters, they seem more afraid than you as they are helpless and gotta melt their brains to spit at you

[eternal talon]

yep yep, now imagine mothers where the entire head is intact

giving birth to twenty little fuckers at a time over and over

[worn rivet]

Oh god that's fuckinf horrifying and unlike TLOU's infec you cant evolve to the point where the head splits open

[eternal talon]

if your head splits open at least you (most likely) wouldn't be conscious anymore to perceive it.

[safe gale]

isnt the woman who was recorded turning into a mother and begging to be ripped apart like the coronation day mario rom hack already disturbing enough

[worn rivet]

And mothers are probably in constant fucking agony

[safe gale]

i actually watched a documentary video about a parasite that infects ants and does this exactly

[worn rivet]

I brought this up earlier I think in my mother are pregnant theories

[eternal talon]

i don't know about that one, mothers require two human hosts that are then fused. we don't know what she turned out to be.

[safe gale]

the host is alive, but they cant control their muscles because the parasites are holding their tissues hostage

[worn rivet]

That's what TLOUS's infected are based on

That parasite

[safe gale]

since i rememher the long from spiffs vids, its from R8 prob the first half of R8

[eternal talon]

the front "wings" are arms, and the front legs are legs. there is another person that is the back half, unless garganta has centaurs

[royal crow]

One day it could evolve
And You know
Funny stuff Will happen

[royal crow]

I wouldnt be surprised if they had centaurs

[eternal talon]

or it could be beneath chicxulub right now... waiting...

[eternal talon]

the collectors? god knows.

[royal crow]

Let me go there and check

Brb

[eternal talon]

the multiverse

[worn rivet]

Cordecyps but horribly mutated and the worst thing is is that, with tlous one your still concuess unless killed you live stuck in your body for a year until your head splits open when you become a clicker

[eternal talon]

cordyceps, the FUNGUS.

it is parasitic

[royal crow]

According to Roanoke
The sleeper virus is a fungus

:)

[eternal talon]

eugh, dont get me started on that guy's videos.

both are so horribly wrong -- and he deleted correcting comments too!

[royal crow]

Nothing we can do about it

[eternal talon]

neither I.

[worn rivet]

That's what tlous infection is based in but at least with cordecyps your brain eventually dies but with what you all are saying with NAM-V you dont die unless killed so your trapped

[eternal talon]

exactly. now imagine the floaters, flyin' around for 8 billion years

[royal crow]

If i don't turn into a Tank im going to be sad

[worn rivet]

Forever with the universe that are infected but won't die

Cause they cant

Stuck slowly going insane

[eternal talon]

face split in half?

[worn rivet]

Okay huh

[royal crow]

Nah
I want to be the legs

[worn rivet]

Almost like clickers then

[eternal talon]

you'd have to have some mega strong genetics to turn into a tank (and be built like a truck)

[worn rivet]

Which is the name for the split open skull infected from the last of us

[eternal talon]

the legs are the least impressive part of the tank

[royal crow]

I'm tall so theres that

[eternal talon]

snatchers be runnin' round naked

also probably not desirable

[royal crow]

Cute

Must pat

[worn rivet]

Okay do we have anything thing in what these fuckers are

[royal crow]

Also its funny

Your friend is fighting for his life

And You are taking a screenshot

[worn rivet]

Haha I've just noticed that

[eternal talon]

nope. just that either dauda was experimenting on them, or influenced their evolution by the parasite

[safe gale]

this is a snatcher that prob got its body parts scattergunned, right?

[worn rivet]

My theories is dog human hybrid

[eternal talon]

i've got funnier pictures

[royal crow]

Why

Frosty

I really need to see your screenshots folder

Drop it on dropbox or something

And send link

[eternal talon]

this one is MID FIRE

[safe gale]

ngl, when i realize that i am not in a video game and immerse myself into the game world where i am facing extremelt painful life threatening objectives, its very brutal and horrifying to even try risking my life fighting sleepers

[eternal talon]

no idea how i managed that. right hand on mouse, left hand f12

[safe gale]

like wtf is fhis program that requires me to deal with so much shit to keep my life

[worn rivet]

Because on all fours, has dog like features, and they're fucking fast as hell

[royal crow]

Lol
Bind your screenshot button to left mouse

Ez

[eternal talon]

plant

[worn rivet]

Plant

[royal crow]

PLEASE FROSTTY

[safe gale]

i just see this without contex5

PALNR

[royal crow]

Also

PLANT

[eternal talon]

destination scan bug

staring down a shocker

[royal crow]

Bullpup

[worn rivet]

Plink

[eternal talon]

oh here is another mid-combat where i am not helping

[worn rivet]

Whish I had nitro for a plink emote

[eternal talon]

the flashlight will kill them!

[worn rivet]

But anyway plink

[royal crow]

Now thats something i would eat

11/10

[royal crow]

"hel revolver"
"Revolver"

Based

[eternal talon]

in chat: "I HAVE THE POWER OF THE SUN"

[eternal talon]

that guy is playing wild west

[safe gale]

is revolver quickswap viable

[eternal talon]

i mean both have reload cancel

[safe gale]

or how lil effective/ineffective it is

i suppose you just shoot things until they die

[eternal talon]

secondary revolver demands headshots though

its very high skill

[safe gale]

it has good hipfire when shooting slowly

[worn rivet]

What do you all think c-foam tastes like

[royal crow]

I feel like high cal is just better

[safe gale]

so i can use it fine

[royal crow]

To be honest theres no reason to use revolver

When high cal exist

[safe gale]

its made out of poly(plastic?)

so prob a boring chemical tastw

[worn rivet]

So eating Is available

[eternal talon]

it depends. normal revolver has incredible ammo econ, one shots normals. different tools. hi-cal is better for bigs

[worn rivet]

But then how does it with poly plastic stop creatures from moving

[safe gale]

plastic is strong

[royal crow]

It freezes?

[safe gale]

if you get webbed in lots of plastic, i can imagine being frozen

[royal crow]

Or something?

[eternal talon]

**However, during the retreat, the operative (who had naturally assumed command by this point) diverted the quad through a security door, ordered a team mate to close the door, then sealed the door using PolyFoam. PolyFoam is a construction material used by the mining industry to temporarily secure structurally unsound bulkheads.

The operative should have had no knowledge of this material, or of the tool that dispenses the foam, and yet they improvised. The only way the operative could have known about the foam is from observation during a previous mission, which in turn means that despite a period of hydrostasis (I'm still trying to find out how long they were in stasis between missions) the operative remembered knowledge of the foam and improvised a new use for it.

It doesn't stop there. On a later mission, a Sigma gen from a different quad exhibited the same behavior. He secured a bulkhead door using a PolyFoam gun he found in a storeroom of mining equipment.**

"polyfoam"

i would assume C for Construction

[safe gale]

i read the wiki about c foam whcih does presume C is for Construction

[eternal talon]

i mean that first bit says it all.
PolyFoam is a construction material used by the mining industry to temporarily secure structurally unsound bulkheads.

[royal crow]

Basically

Glue

[safe gale]

ye

what is glue made our of anyways

[worn rivet]

Strong plastic can stop like feelers who like I figured out earlier can fucking break an inch of whatever the blue doors are made of can just be fully stopped by fucking construction foam

[safe gale]

the white DYI glue i mean

i will google

lots of poly chemicals

[eternal talon]

why is this autofill search result...

[safe gale]

basically same thing as c foam but not made for bulkhead doods

[safe gale]

the

[worn rivet]

Poly.fucking chemicals what the fuck is the logic is this game

[royal crow]

Copilot is the most regarded shit i have seen

Seriously

[worn rivet]

How does it stop shit that can break fucking metal with ease as shown with fucking doors

[royal crow]

That "AI" which is just a glorified Google search is so stupid

[safe gale]

reading wikipedia on glue, i learned something called "thermoplastics"

basically the glue materials that solidify or melt in temperatuee

[worn rivet]

What

[eternal talon]

idk, i'm not a glue expert.

[safe gale]

all type of glue are basically like this

[eternal talon]

i'm a lore expert. 😎

[royal crow]

I can make a tier list of the taste of different glue brands

[worn rivet]

I'm really fucikng confused and none of their logic with the enemy's strengths make any resemblance of fucking anything really

[worn rivet]

Do it

[eternal talon]

GTFO is a game where you learn to love its faults because without them it'd just be mid.

[worn rivet]

Yeah you do until you try to apply any sign of fucking modern science and it just falls apart like how fast can they break doors

[eternal talon]

(gtfo's playerbase and intended niche is really fucking small)

[safe gale]

i love sci fi

strong glue balls

[eternal talon]

eh, in terms of science its got great stuff for biology, as per Beanz and Punk.

[worn rivet]

Yeah but fuck IT WE BALL science Is for nerds were ALL FUCKING GTFO PLAYERS a game made for fucking men

[eternal talon]

like, you'd be shocked by some of the research we did as a community in the past.

[worn rivet]

And psychos

[worn rivet]

I'm sorry what

[eternal talon]

we've literally transcribed IRL ancient mayan records

[worn rivet]

Oh may I ask fucking why

Was it to do with the location of the mine or something

[royal crow]

The Game takes place in Mexico

So

[eternal talon]

like, here is an ancient link in this channel, from 2022

[royal crow]

[eternal talon]

digging for anything even remotely gtfo lore related.

we were thirsty for deets.

[worn rivet]

What the fuck

[eternal talon]

we looked at NASA star charts to determine the location of destination and solve ARGs

(i'm proud to say i contributed to that discovery myself)

[safe gale]

what even is that 😭

[worn rivet]

This was about the virus my thing I said earlier where it's what the black plauge was I was maybe right

[eternal talon]

Original text:

MzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzkgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzggMzQgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzggMjAgMzggMzEgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzcgMjAgMzcgMzcgMjAgMzEgMzAgMzYgMjAgMzYgMzkgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzMgMjAgMzYgMzcgMjAgMzQgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzIgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzIgMzEgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzEgMzkgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzEgMzAgMzUgMjAgMzYgMzUgMjAgMzEgMzIgMzAgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzggMzMgMjAgMzUgMzIgMjAgMzUgMzMgMjAgMzcgMzggMjAgMzYgMzUgMjA

Base64 Decode output:

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Decode output with 20 as a divider:

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3X converted to just X and combined into decimals:

77 84 99 103 77 84 77 103 78 68 81 117 77 106 69 120 73 67 48 122 78 121 65 119 78 105 65 120 78 83 52 53 78 65

Combined into decimals converted to ASCII:

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Base64 Decode output with new ASCII text:

17 13 44.211 -37 06 15.94

when you said we were all crazy, you didn't even know.

we, or at least I, as the last person standing, am a lore Addict

[worn rivet]

Oh good god thank fuck i wasn't part of the community or I would have been obsessed

[eternal talon]

I will be the last active user in this channel.

thats a fact.

(or i die by getting hit by a car or something)

[worn rivet]

Your the last bastion of the lore channel

[eternal talon]

if i can help it, i will always be active here

[worn rivet]

But I'll be next to you in spirit and in person as much as I acn

Can

[safe gale]

actually mapping the stars

like arg mumbo jumbo is always beyond my understanding

[worn rivet]

Also is there a main quote I can use for this game that doesn't have at least more than one fucking swear word in it

[eternal talon]

if you want to dig through that 2022 conversation i linked, you'll see a glimpse of our insanity

[royal crow]

"we got pings, hands off cocks"

[eternal talon]

the credit for actually finding it was the Butterfly Nebula will go to Amanes

[worn rivet]

I've started my dive I came back I'll soon go back into jt

[eternal talon]

Personally, i was looking at the mid-atlantic ridge back then, as the coords also pointed there

[worn rivet]

Hub

Huh

[eternal talon]

i hadn't even considered star charts at the time

[eternal talon]

(a now inactive user that was a lore expert)

[worn rivet]

Oh god you all were insane back then

Oh another bastion whose fallen

To time

[coral gorge]

I wish DoW has some funny ARGs too

[eternal talon]

i remember like it was yesterday, us looking at destination's "moon" to argue and determine if it was actually a moon, or a dwarf star

so many conversations among experts

[worn rivet]

Howdy new man

[coral gorge]

its a ball of cheese

[eternal talon]

we had at least 3 IRL college educated biologists

[royal crow]

Omg hi cubix

Hi hello hi hi hi

Hello

[safe gale]

epic

[royal crow]

Hey hey hi

[coral gorge]

Ah yes the good old, „is the virus actually real”

[royal crow]

Hi

[safe gale]

cubix cubed

[royal crow]

Cubix

[worn rivet]

Oh my god real scientists helped with this

[royal crow]

Hello

[eternal talon]

i remember fucking arguing for months about the collectors even existing

back then, without a name, i called them the hypothetical "Allens"

but i was right!

[worn rivet]

Let it be known I did not help with the old args and such but I will help with the next ones I shall become more intuned with the lore

[coral gorge]

im still proud that i almost predicted the R8 ending from that one screenshot

[worn rivet]

Also what the fuck

[royal crow]

Hello cubix

Hi

[eternal talon]

and it all started with this ruin!

[safe gale]

what is this rock

[eternal talon]

unnatural

[worn rivet]

Where is this rock

[eternal talon]

r6b1

[coral gorge]

shut the fuck up kindly

[royal crow]

Hello

[worn rivet]

Noted

[royal crow]

Hi

:3

[worn rivet]

Check r6

[eternal talon]

behind where you teleport in.
part of the cliff-face is carved out around it.

[worn rivet]

Also memories part of the wiki for quick reference

And keep active in this channel

[coral gorge]

That is such a weird thing to use to prove aliens
Peak lore

[safe gale]

what does it contain that contributed to your lore curiosity

[worn rivet]

Hell yeah I'll be right next you sister

[eternal talon]

the fact that it was in no way natural spirred me down the rabbit hole.

[royal crow]

It looked "man" made

Like someone or something made it

For whatever its purpose was

[eternal talon]

stuff like the collector ship, the inner, that kinda thing, wasn't confirmed back then.

[safe gale]

no i mean, did it have any information or things that lead to the arg dieectly

[eternal talon]

it could have been like a volcanic asteroid or something, but i didn't buy it

[safe gale]

it looks weird sure, but what can you do with this dock

[coral gorge]

you can go insane

[eternal talon]

my conspiracy theory was correct!

(wow, i'm really getting to use all my mp4s tonight, huh?)

[royal crow]

Hello cubix

Hi

:3

[coral gorge]

alex i will burn mexico to the ground so you finally shut the fuck up
Go to sleep or smth

[eternal talon]

nope. it was just weird.

didn't have any explanation for existing.

[coral gorge]

My biggest „wtf” moment will forever be coming back to this game after a while and learning there are fucking aliens now

[worn rivet]

Hell yeah good for you frostty

[royal crow]

Hi

[eternal talon]

don't threaten pablo, they can actually go open up garganta

they live nextdoor

[worn rivet]

I'm just getting back into it after like 2 years I'm confused as ever living fuck

[coral gorge]

He has no balls

[worn rivet]

No dont open garganta please i dont want to die right now

[safe gale]

did you eventually find explaination?

[eternal talon]

nope, thats what is funny. it still has no fucking reason for existing. its just there.

[safe gale]

what did you find out instead xD

anything unrelated to the rock

[coral gorge]

just become the plothole and ignore the virus

ez

[eternal talon]

it one one of many things that led me to beleive the collectors existed. i don't remember specifics, it was too long ago.

i've been playing gtfo since the early access rundown 1 in 2019, and back then we used to think it was spores or something

[worn rivet]

I shall be returning to the 2022 era soon I shall tell you

[eternal talon]

many theories have come and gone

confirmed, disproven, or forgotten

[safe gale]

well what do you remember that lead you to find potential proof for the collectors

[eternal talon]

i honestly do not remember.
i remember arguing almost weekly about it to either daraxus, punk, skyrope, or rayalot

[worn rivet]

Does anyone need anything from this era by any chance

Currently poking around for stuff taking a few photos

[eternal talon]

we'd go back and forth for reasons they could exist and they'd argue back with "no confirmed info/its all unprovable speculation"

we didn't have anything concrete until r7 iirc

it was all just likely or could be

[worn rivet]

Might need a cleanup around parts but you all were batshit back then

Like there were like ten of you back then instead of the like 5 fo us at the moment

The 10 of you were almost always on too

Sorry for grammar mistakes

[eternal talon]

lets see...

we had myself, daraxus, punk, amanes, skyrope, edeon, rayalot, mirv, lillianamirrors, infiniteduck... those were the main ones

like 10 or so of us, yeah

so imagine 10 (more sane) versions of me

[worn rivet]

Sorry coming back for a minute you ten were all what you are now a bastion of lore stuff essentially

And ones who solved the args and stuff like that

[safe gale]

xD

[eternal talon]

the old rundowns were so much fun.

i actually made some of the stuff on this server, too.

[worn rivet]

Woah

[eternal talon]

the stamps have my emblem in the back

and i made BatInTheHat

[eternal talon]

the stamps are extremely old references.

back when there were only the original four melee weapons, the community was essentially split into four groups. my group was the Maulmen, like mailmen, (we used the maul)

it was a jokester type thing (maul is obviously the best), but all weapons back then had identical stats

[worn rivet]

Hah amazing that's perfect is that the hammer shaped one

Or is it another

[eternal talon]

hm?

[worn rivet]

What does the weapon look like

[eternal talon]

the two stamps that are stickers in this server are the maul and the bat

[safe gale]

the maul?

[worn rivet]

Noted

[eternal talon]

i'm literally holding the maul in the above picture

[eternal talon]

^

[safe gale]

i use maul c:

[worn rivet]

You are

[safe gale]

i wonder how many knife, spear and bat reskin mods exist

[eternal talon]

in the code? or in-game?

[safe gale]

the niche options deserve some cool fashion

[safe gale]

mods

[eternal talon]

in the code iirc there are no other spears, bats, or knives. in the code there are i think 6 unused heads for the sledgehammer

[worn rivet]

Does anyone know how people are currently active in this server

[eternal talon]

no idea, i only ever use this channel

[worn rivet]

Cause it says there 200,000 members who have this server joined but active I've only seen about 10,000 at a time so impressive but about 5 percent of the true count

[eternal talon]

gtfo is incredibly niche (also you don't have to buy the game to join the server)

people getting into GTFO because they liked L4D2 for example, would be in for a bad time...

[worn rivet]

And the three of us are currently the most active in this chat at the moment

[worn rivet]

L4d2 player are getting fucked on

[eternal talon]

you know, they used to release rundown statistics. something like 60% of people never finished A1s

(could be higher, they haven't posted statistics in years)

[worn rivet]

What the hell they got absolutely duncked on especially cause they had to do the latest rundown cause there was no alt rundowns

[safe gale]

everyone i see daily in the chats are the same people, its a surprisingly small discord community

[worn rivet]

It's small but fucking amazing

[safe gale]

nee prisoners come and go, but there are few recognizable people

[safe gale]

i feel welcomed and comfy here

[worn rivet]

And mostly friendly

[worn rivet]

But were all prisoners after all some of us are bound to be dickheads

[eternal talon]

its the nature of KSOs. the majority of them were kidnapped acquired from US prisons.

[safe gale]

there is always a simon in every apple tree

[safe gale]

better than australia if i had to guess

[worn rivet]

Huh I see kovacs test subject gathering thing work like the scp foundation in that way

They both take from prisons after all

[eternal talon]

there's even weirder stuff the deeper you dig.
(this sleeper only appeared in the pre-release soundtrack video on 10cc's youtube, never in-game)

(we don't know its name, or anything about it at all)

[safe gale]

i hope it stays that way

i mean it will

game is done with development lul

[worn rivet]

What the fuck is that model on it also it has 4 fucking arms

[safe gale]

but i wonder if we'd see modded fan recreation

like how feasible is it to make custom animations and such

[eternal talon]

its just a shame the alt://rundowns ruined the look of the original rundowns.
ONCE AGAIN, RIP OLD LIGHTING ENGINE, MY BELOVED

[safe gale]

game looks like pvz1 where you can mod variants but no new enemies

[safe gale]

particles

[eternal talon]

some of the modders literally made playable gtfo-cart

[worn rivet]

It kinda looks like some of the bigger fallen from destiny with how the arms look

And how it holds itself

[safe gale]

lockout 3 fr

[eternal talon]

my modded stuff could never hold a candle to that.

[worn rivet]

The lighting engine why

[safe gale]

i never got much into modding

but

[worn rivet]

Its looks so weird now

[safe gale]

i hope i do when i start studying puter science

i know my dingus self is likely to do that

[eternal talon]

it was gritty and slimy.

and very, VERY, dark

also the old menus were cool

[worn rivet]

Oh good when you said it was dark I didn't think you meant literally

Pitch black

[eternal talon]

that pic is of the first time we ever encountered spitters, in ogr2

even the normally lit rooms had fucktons of contrast, vibrancy, and dark parts.

[worn rivet]

May I ask what creatures name is spitters

[worn rivet]

I cant see shit

[eternal talon]

these things, poppers

[eternal talon]

i know. it was wonderful.

[worn rivet]

Oh the swfs

Or screaming wall fucks

[eternal talon]

everybody was shit back then, so it was played very tactically. was actually scary.

(this level of tactics, where you were making elaborate battle plans before you even dropped in)

[worn rivet]

Oh my god the turrets look cool as fuck and oh god that cool

[eternal talon]

i will never understand why they redid the lighting engine, and made it worse

[worn rivet]

Probably something to do with graphics

[eternal talon]

i mean, look at some of these modern zones for comparison:

waay too bright and single-color

[eternal talon]

nah. i can say for certain modern rundowns run worse than old ones.

more lights = more shadows

[worn rivet]

Wheres the darkness, where the pizas, wheres all the fucking horror gone I mean in r8e2 mothers and tanks literally become standard enemys

[eternal talon]

there are only a couple modern zones that feel like the old engine.

[worn rivet]

No longer boss enemys just in every fuckingbl room almost

[eternal talon]

in that regard, its to do with the skill of the players.

the game is super niche, so you balance for the vets.

every rundown (except r6 and parts of r7) has been more difficult than the previous (not including the alt:// remasters)

[worn rivet]

Still just throw a shit ton of weak enemy's to drain resources and then big shit not big into small shit

So you have challenge, you get military level battle planning not shitty kill shit plans

[eternal talon]

okay, but consider this: when tanks were first introduced, you only encountered one at a time and usually it was a big deal.

nowadays, you've got modded rundowns where players are taking down 3 tanks at a time in under two minutes.

i'd know, i designed a level specifically around the idea of fighting multiple tanks at once (PT:C2)

[worn rivet]

Okay then heres a fucking shocking idea they could've given them more FUCKING health simple

[eternal talon]

a mother, a single player can burst it down with a machine gun in 30 seconds

[worn rivet]

So more health so the tank is an actual tank

[eternal talon]

the pmother has 3x the health of the normal mother. groups can kill it in just shy of 3 minutes.

people were literally playing levels melee only (including alarms)

r4 had a melee only REACTOR

[worn rivet]

This was speficly for tanks

[safe gale]

machine gun viable!!

[eternal talon]

arbalist hasn't been good since ogr1, its a shame. was one of my favorites.

[worn rivet]

So you throw a tank who has almost triple the normal tanks hp and watch them freak the fuck out

[eternal talon]

varuta is pretty much the only good lmg

[safe gale]

what happened to arby?

[worn rivet]

And then make that the regular tanks hp

Make them an actual threat

[safe gale]

1 tank is less scary than 3

[eternal talon]

Rundown 5: Replaced Veruta. Major overhaul, damage decreased from 2 shotting a striker to 3-4 shotting a striker, magazine size increased from 20 to 40 (Exact values require data mining from Rundown 1 or before)

it was only in two rundowns pre-alt

OGr1 and OGr5

[safe gale]

like making an enemy a bullet sponge doesnt do much especially when staggerableclol

[eternal talon]

it was made into a worse copy of the veruta

[safe gale]

wow, half the killing power?

[eternal talon]

when in ogr1 it was a monster.

it still has the r5 stats today.