gtfo-lore

[eternal talon]

true, but it'd practically take a bomb to kill it

[solemn kraken]

Pablo ain't. we just don't have the damage to kill him

[royal crow]

Just melee him for 7 days straight

[coral gorge]

Nithing is immortal if you have a tank shell

[royal crow]

Why a bomb

[eternal talon]

because 4 mine deployers aren't enough

[regal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/heres-pipe-bomb-santa-pipe-bomb-gif-24143658

nercromorphs to pablo

[royal crow]

Make it 400

[coral gorge]

Then 5 would surely work

[regal olive]

oh by the way necromorphs have bombs btw

those babies

that are basically c4

[solemn kraken]

true

[royal crow]

Necromoprhs can spit acid too

So

Fun

[eternal talon]

Hypothetical:

Sleeper Xenomorphs.

[royal crow]

Without a suit like Isaac had its an instant game over for the person

[regal olive]

No ```

[coral gorge]

yes

[eternal talon]

stronger or weaker than normal xenos?

[royal crow]

Xenomorph Pablo

[regal olive]

weaker tbh

not considering namv magic

sleepers aren't that strong

[eternal talon]

would the acid blood make them parasite proof anyhow?

[regal olive]

the fact that we kill kraken

that by itself shows that they suck ass

[royal crow]

Try to fight 20 of them

At the same time

[regal olive]

there are like 5 of them tops

there's not that much meat on earth

[royal crow]

We see a lot more on R8B2

Like

20

[regal olive]

yeah but

there's just not enough biomass for an army

you can't just summon krakens

[eternal talon]

ooh that's a good one!

hypothetical:

3x kraken (and floater army) vs 1x Dead Space 1 Hive Mind

[regal olive]

i will never say that sleepers will physically win over anything else

[royal crow]

Hive Mind

[eternal talon]

with enough infected, surely

[regal olive]

i could probably kill a sleeper

[eternal talon]

their entire thing is insane numbers

[eternal talon]

(i haven't played dead space 1 but it looks similar enough to be a challenge)

[royal crow]

Nah

It really isnt

Necromoprhs are way superior to the sleepers

[eternal talon]

how many krakens would it take to beat?

[royal crow]

Like

10 tbh

Also the hive mind could use the dead bodies to make new necromoprhs

So

[solemn kraken]

New types of kraken necromorphs

[regal olive]

This is MY biomass
No, it's MY biomass
NO, it's MY biomass

[eternal talon]

who could destroy the earth first? the flood from halo, or sleepers?

[eternal talon]

hahahahaha

[regal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-fighting-fighting-cats-anniehasleftoop-gif-23317332

[solemn kraken]

But that is the hivemind. a moon would just eat up 30 krakens no sweat

[regal olive]

yeah lol

[eternal talon]

well yeah, there really isn't a bretheren moon comparative in gtfo

the biggest mass of combined infected we've seen is three, that being the mother

though, i havent gotten a good look at the mother boss in r8. maybe it has more

[regal olive]

what

bro, kraken

what are you talking about the big mom is way smaller

[eternal talon]

the kraken is one entity

it is an infected giiiant fish from destination

[regal olive]

why does that matter

[eternal talon]

like a whale

[regal olive]

oh

jesus that sucks

[eternal talon]

necromorphs like the B moon are a fuckton of infected combined into one, no?

[regal olive]

yeh

[solemn kraken]

Yes

[solemn kraken]

wait this was revealed??

[regal olive]

vacuum up all the meat and smudge it all together

[eternal talon]

technically no. but its like other things, implied

[royal crow]

The convergence 🙏

[solemn kraken]

Ok, fair

[eternal talon]

we see a bunch more of them in r8

[royal crow]

Heh

I like how the krakens look angry

[eternal talon]

they are like whatever destination's alternative to supermassive cuttlefish is

(you can't convince me their design wasn't inspired by cuttlefish)

[royal crow]

Octopus

[eternal talon]

they LITERALLY even have eyes in the same location

they just have the striker treatment with a torn open head and a fuckton of teeth

[royal crow]

Hyperion destroys Kovac

One pilot can take an entire army

Even without a titan

[eternal talon]

(truly, the most important question)

[cunning light]

How many ammopacks, though ?

Hammer only ?

[royal crow]

69 ammopacks

[eternal talon]

that's a tough question... i'd say, split it into two. one with 100% to start and no refills, and the second one with daily resupplies from kovac

hammer only against a lion would be tough, but KSOs are physically enhanced...

it's tough to judge.

their skulls aren't exactly much tougher than a sleeper's, no?

stamina would be a bitch though if the KSOs aren't constantly rotating the front line

[eternal talon]

Destination concept art. What do y'all think the entity on the bottom left was supposed to be?

[royal crow]

probably a person

just for scaling

[eternal talon]

it looks like a tusken raider.

[raw terrace]

where did that come from?

[eternal talon]

It's concept art.

[raw terrace]

looks so fucking good

[raw terrace]

yeah like but

[eternal talon]

I found it on the artist's website.

[raw terrace]

where kdmdk

ohh

is there more

[eternal talon]

Yes. Tons more

This was just the one I was most interested in, given the figure and all

[raw terrace]

link? :3

teehee?

[eternal talon]

On my phone. Just Google GTFO Concept Art Artstation

[raw terrace]

thank uuu

[eternal talon]

Pretty much every artist across the industry saves their concept art for the sake of portfolios

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kDr2Z0 gun concepts look SUPER scifi

i mean the final image just looks like the halo battle rifle

https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/m8bWQv?album_id=2515809

this thing looks sick af
https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/49Ly4n?album_id=2515809

this one looks a bit like a beholder
https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/qe59Nn?album_id=2515809

now this one is a bit weird...

no idea what it was meant to be
https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/Dv6m1o?album_id=2515809

[raw terrace]

i'm gonna have a field day with these

[eternal talon]

this one looks like the surface, so that's cool.
https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/NyLb01?album_id=2515809

https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/rJwWrm?album_id=2515809

"sleeper plants" apparently.
https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/obeWqz?album_id=2515809

there is a TON of art around this thing, whatever it is. its just described as a "light device"
https://amanieurebu.artstation.com/projects/49Ly5n?album_id=2515809

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/JeQ3xZ

pouncer concept art
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/VJRZln

I could keep going. there is just SO MUCH STUFF

[coral gorge]

damn

i didnt know there is so much concept art for this game

[eternal talon]

I didn't even post a quarter of what is on Artstation

[coral gorge]

wow

[eternal talon]

10cc have probably a full game's worth of scrapped stuff

even in the game files right now, there is a ton of unfinished/abandoned stuff

Conduit concept art
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dKqBqQ

what the fuck is THIS?

i'm sorry, NPCs???
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kQ8X86

[coral gorge]

who needs npcs when you have "strange voice nr 50" and "dead body nr 200"

[royal crow]

the nano gun looks cool

but it doesnt fit the game

at least not with that design

[eternal talon]

109775243146827558

[royal crow]

.t lfg

[ruby lake]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners / #lfg-middle-east.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[eternal talon]

... i know how lfg works. that was for you, pable

cubix said he was busy already in dms

[royal crow]

i gotta go and do something too

idk when i will be free

[eternal talon]

its fine

[royal crow]

[eternal talon]

[cunning light]

Thos concept arts were crazy

[regal olive]

Mods frosty is spamming

[eternal talon]

its automatic!

[warped bloom]

Excuses

[cold sphinx]

The frostty-ing

You cant escape the wall of text

[regal olive]

@coral gorge whatcha got there?

[plush nest]

Dumb question

What exactly is a kso?

[gray bone]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/KSO

Google

[plush nest]

Ty

[coral gorge]

wow, couldnt even bother to send something horrendous

Pussy

[regal olive]

youtube doesn't catalog your comments

i stumbled across this

[coral gorge]

could have dug up an incredibly racist quote i actually did

i mean what

=)

[eternal talon]

not very nice, you could have just given the answer, -- or waited a couple hours for me to post six paragraphs explaining every detail

[gray bone]

...Well, I was busy dealing with another tech support thread (not really)
mb mb

[eternal talon]

this channel is ironically enough less accessible than the wiki, so most people that come here already have access to it, or at least that is what i assume from the get go

[eternal talon]

no question is a dumb question. I'd go out of my way to spend a couple hours finding out why Santonian would use a certain color of paint if someone asked.

[plush nest]

Idk, my friend saw the titan pilot vs 12 kso and didn’t know what a kso was and I didn’t know how to explain it to them

I just told them special forces basically

[gray bone]

Paragraph incoming

[plush nest]

Uh oh

[eternal talon]

KSOs, (Kovac Security Operatives). We play as a squad of them in the game. In simple terms, they are biologically and chemically (boosters) enhanced slaves. The way they work, is Kovac would kidnap or otherwise acqure human subjects (most commonly from US penetentiaries) and would subject them to forced Hydrostasis over a period of 1-2 years. Hydrostasis has a side-effect of wiping the occupant's memory over time. During this process, the occupant would be implanted with a chip into the back of their neck directly connecting them to the Biocom network, allowing them to be sent an objective stack and "controlled". KSOs on the outside look like your average person, but they have little to no free will. If Biocom or their Objective Stack commands it, they will be incapable of even thinking about disobeying the order.

On average, i'd say KSOs are ~1.5-2x stronger than the average human (though that is just my own estimation)

[coral gorge]

god
All the messages prior to this rant will never be found again, consumed forever

[eternal talon]

their stamina on the other hand, is fucking insane

[coral gorge]

you’re telling me an average human cannot break open someones skull with a knife?

=)

[eternal talon]

(try sprinting and jumping around swinging a sledgehammer irl. it's gotta be something like 5-6x, minimum)

[coral gorge]

i do actually wonder how many times could an actual soldier do such activities

[eternal talon]

and all these physical enhancements are thanks to the boosters and chemicals they are constantly injected with each and every time they enter hydrostasis between missions

[coral gorge]

Ah yes, the greatest booster of all:
drugs

i still believe the ferns in some levels are just meth plants and you cant convince me otherwise

[eternal talon]

Woods was an inmate that kovac acquired, Bishop was a kidnapped civilian, Hackett was one if not the only person to ever volunteer for the Legion Program (Basically what Kovac Calls KSOs, its their legion program, and the KSOs Legionaries), and Dauda was backed into a corner by sleepers riiight before the game starts and had to choose -- become a KSO by entering an HSU, or be torn apart or worse, turned into a sleeper.

[gray bone]

Is there more

is sqweeker even still here

[coral gorge]

i mean in alt woods „conscripts” him

[eternal talon]

in regards to?

[coral gorge]

They’re fucking dead

[coral gorge]

m e t h

[eternal talon]

the concept is relatively simple.

Kovac kidnaps people for their Legion Program.
Legion uses hydrostasis and surgically implanted control chips to turn people into KSOs.
KSOs are basically biological robots, incapable of disobeying "the stack" set for them by Biocom.
The WARDEN controls biocom, and by extension, us.

(long version above, short version here.)

[gray bone]

did the warden highjack the system

[eternal talon]

the warden is a collector, (from the ship that crashed millions of years ago).

at some point, it hacked into biocom to control it, yes.

though, what its goals were for the majority of the rundowns is still unknown

only r5 and later are really clear

r5's goal was getting access to more ksos in the locked down KDS-DEEP
r6's goal was getting access to the genome database, but it was interrupted at the end (in og) by schaeffer killing the conduit.
r7's goal is trying to fight back against schaeffer who is trying to remove it's control over biocom.
r8 is... i'm not gonna spoil it, and even if i did, it's a debated topic.

[gray bone]

||can you just spoiler it cause i still don't get the endgame of the Warden, especially the ending||

If not it's ok

[eternal talon]

||so, it's debated, and it ultimately comes down to a single line of text spoken by the conduit.

**VOICE 1
Did you "collect" those creatures?

VOICE 2
Yes. They are the Collection. They are impure. We have been in exile for 2-point zero-6-6-3-8-8-8-5-2 times 10 to the power 15 Seconds. We have been waiting.

VOICE 1
For what?

VOICE 2
In this membrane, a resolution has been determined.

VOICE 1
A resolution to what?

VOICE 2
Conclusion: the Collection cannot be completed. The virus is the primary life force of membranes in which it exists. All will become impure. In this membrane, and all we have traveled.

VOICE 1
This membrane? But, outside of this place, this facility, there may be people working on a cure--

VOICE 2
96.35% of humans in this membrane are impure. The virus is the primary life force. The humans must leave.

VOICE 1
How?

VOICE 2
A clean membrane will be determined. Humans will project, then destroy the Projector. The Collection will be complete.**||

||None of the conduit's verbage is spoken with tense, like, at all.

So either: "We travel, We collect. Through the membranes. We collect the virus. The Collection is impure."

is we collect the virus, or we collectED the virus||

||Either it wants us to leave safely, to try and preserve our life as a species, and r8 is as it seems at a glance, of the warden and alt// schaeffer trying to help us to escape to a clean worldline,

OR

it wants a worldline with nothing but the virus, and getting us to "escape" is a trick meant to get us killed so alt//schaeffer doesn't start the same rebellion that OG schaeffer did in r7 that ended up disconnecting the warden from biocom.

both are supported by varius bits of evidence.||

||for example; for the second option, the OG crew, that aren't controlled by the warden, are the people that actually go to the insight labs to get the coords that is used in the end.

who knows where the MWP would have led to otherwise.||

||there is a tradeoff in (i forget the level) for the data packet with the coords.||

||it is as you said, pretty messy.
i believe it is up to interpretation.||

||but ultimately, it doesn't matter.

The chances that the OG crew ARENT infected coming out of r7e2 is so insanely slim, that it is basically guranteed that they brought the virus, in themselves, to the clean worldline, thus dooming it to the same fate as earth. so kind of a dark ending tbh.||

||does that help? or do you have further questions?||

||Oh, on the topic of who was speaking to us just prior to the credits, that was Durant. in the OG worldline, his expedition (ef01) with the matter wave projector took him to destination where everyone except Bishop died, returning a couple weeks later. in the ALT// worldline, Durant ended up at this jungle world.||

[gray bone]

Yeah I got most of my confusions cleared up
Thanks frostty

It's kind of weird, seeing someone this invested in the story around these parts
When I first joined the server, I thought it'd have pettered out by now

[eternal talon]

haha, nope. I've been here since OGr1

[gray bone]

Nice

[eternal talon]

I refuse to let it die.

despite all its faults (and there are many), this is genuinely one of my top favorite games of all time

[gray bone]

And I get to deal with all of those technical faults over at tech support
But it's nice to know what this game is about every once in a while

Next time I've got quesitons, I'll be around to ask them
Thanks again

[eternal talon]

I'm always around if you (or anyone else reading) ever has any questions about the story

[eternal talon]

[plush nest]

I was in class, I am now reading things

[regal olive]

Gtfo lore experience rn

[plush nest]

ty frosty, i might be back sometime soon depends on when my friends are curious about the lore

[royal crow]

thats how it feels to read about SCPs

[eternal talon]

Lmao

[next panther]

Np

[gray bone]

I don't think he means you

[next panther]

🤡

[snow elk]

To this day all I know about gtfo lore is virus, must kill all :3

[coral gorge]

I mean hey i guess thats the most basic piece of lore

its atleast not false

[toxic wagon]

awhile back when someone argued here about if the sleepers were zombies or not.

[coral gorge]

God why do people just instantly put a label on things

[toxic wagon]

Frosty I believe ended up posting like an essay explaining why they aren't zombies

[coral gorge]

seems like smyh she would do

[warped bloom]

I love when the sleepers scream: "brainz"

[eternal talon]

Well I mean the devs explicitly said in interviews years back that "they weren't zombies", it's even on the wiki in quotes.

“ We set out to create something that would freak people out. What are they? They're not zombies. They're not aliens. They're something that's disgusting. „
~ Anders Svard

-- and while the "aliens" part isn't really accurate anymore (at least for the destination variants), we haven't been shown any evidence that they function as zombies.

[royal crow]

what makes a zombie a zombie?

[eternal talon]

Reanimation. It's as simple as that.

I mean zombies are literally "the undead"

Like by a technicality sake, necromorphs would be classified as zombies iirc because they reanimate dead tissue

Parasitidae garganta doesn't kill you, it just hijacks you and controls you

Disconnects the brain

New device detected

[royal crow]

like in The Last of Us?

cool

but how are we sure the "host" isnt dead when he transforms into a sleeper?

they can pretty much live without a head/brain

[eternal talon]

Because the virus makes that impossible

Dauda says that it extends the parasite'a lifespan for an undetermined length of time, perhaps forever

And given floaters, by extension that must include the host

[royal crow]

damn, if i ever become a sleeper i would like to be a tank

[eternal talon]

Otherwise destination would be chill af

[gray bone]

destination?

[royal crow]

desert planet

[eternal talon]

I mean preferably you'd never ever want to become a sleeper in the first place. I'd rather not have indefinite torture

[royal crow]

the one we travel in Rundown 6

and some R7 and R8

[royal crow]

but infinite sleep

its cool

[eternal talon]

Desert place we warp to with the MWP in r6, r7, and r8 (and gets merged with earth in parts of r8 too). It is a worldline in and of itself where time runs 85x faster than our own, and where the planet is located 3k light years away in the Butterfly Nebula. It is unknown if this is the origin of the vessel or not.

It is simply a world that succumbed to the virus and the parasite billions of years ago and was completely consumed.

[eternal talon]

Death also grants you that, without the suffering of bone breaking and being puppeted

[royal crow]

well, eventually 4 random men will come and hammer my head

its whatever

😔

[eternal talon]

It'd be a mercy killing.

[coral gorge]

knowing you, you'd enjoy that

[royal crow]

no, that would be foodini

[plush nest]

Would have to live long enough as a sleeper to turn into that I believe or unless the hive sees fit

[eternal talon]

GTFO has SUCH an amazing atmosphere.

on an unrelated note, Destination's "moon" is so fucking wierd.

[warped bloom]

looks like a sun

[eternal talon]

ah yes, having your entire head torn apart sounds lovely.

[eternal talon]

it does, kinda. it is way too bright to be any 'normal' moon

[regal olive]

What part of the gtfo lore is responsible for me losing 20 minutes of salary

Davy Jones?

Johnson Davies

What's his name

[loud urchin]

Janson?

[eternal talon]

CEO of Dreyfus, one of the world's largest megacorps.

[karmic vale]

"just a big lamp"

[cold sphinx]

@coral gorge

[coral gorge]

i will commit a murder kaiser

i really will

[cold sphinx]

Go on….

(You play hearts of iron IV)

[coral gorge]

i do
and i will go ahead and touch grass, just to fucking get to you and stab you

[cold sphinx]

Unbelievable

There aint grass like 14 miles near you

[honest summit]

Average LoL player

[coral gorge]

luckily im not that far gone to play LoL

[coral gorge]

you forget i dont live in the us, so there is actual greenery in the cities

[cold sphinx]

No proof

[coral gorge]

i know your silly games, if i send you a photo of grass outside you are gonna geoguess my house and send a pipe bomb to me
i will not be deceived FOOL

[cold sphinx]

Tee hee

[eternal talon]

That's why the only outdoor irl pictures I've posted here are miles and miles out in the mountains

[coral gorge]

alright, time to carpet bomb all the mountains frosty sent

[eternal talon]

the trail i was on that weekend was literally 12 miles long. good luck even finding my campsite

[coral gorge]

breathes in
WE NEED NAPALM ON THAT FUCKING FOREST

[toxic wagon]

Made me think if we had a complete forest biome for GTFO. Putting the Viet Nam in Nam V

[regal olive]

Good one

[graceful bolt]

what are some of the interesting code, info log, location coordination are there that can anyone share me ?

[eternal talon]

I don't know what that means.

[cold sphinx]

logs

the LOGS

[raw terrace]

not very clear still

[raw terrace]

i guess u mean like the biggest lore drops?

[cold sphinx]

CHAIR

[raw terrace]

cheir

[quasi meadow]

cherry

[honest summit]

Clearly He is looking for lumber

[cold sphinx]

lumbar

[graceful bolt]

just some interesting info not spoiler or anything

[raw terrace]

uh fun fact gtfo is the kds designation of the 4 main protags

[honest summit]

There is a Morse Code in R1D1 that plays after the apex door

[graceful bolt]

is there a translate ?

[raw terrace]

think it just says "escape"

[honest summit]

. ... -.-. .- .--. .

[graceful bolt]

so it translate to just "escape"

[honest summit]

It also gives you a achivement that clarifies that the Message is from Shaeffer.

[solemn kraken]

what was the message from OG R4B1?

[honest summit]

I am Not frostty, i dont have a folder with everything

[solemn kraken]

No worries, I'll look it up

It's just Hello. 😅 pretty chill for OG schaeffer tbf

[eternal talon]

before i respond, what do you count as spoilers? gameplay stuff? story stuff that happens during the game? keep in mind, the storyline of the game is billions of years long, across at least a dozen different universes. I have SO much stuff i could post

[graceful bolt]

um anything before the r5

anything related to r1 2 3 4

[eternal talon]

what about before rundown 1? where the overwhelming majority of the lore is?

because all of humanity is dead before r1 even starts...

[graceful bolt]

um sure but be subtle

[eternal talon]

looooong before the game takes place, (billions upon billions of years)
there was once a species of aliens that explored the multiverse, collecting species from far and wide to catalogue and store. These aliens would be reffered to as the "Collectors". Eventually, one of the worlds they visited had a particular parasite that was able to control living hosts, no matter the type. This parasite would later be named by Humanity as "Parasitidae Garganta". On another world they visited, they encountered the most dangerous living entity in all of existance. NAM-V. This virus was capable of spreading through every medium except the vaccum of space where there was just straight up nothing to transmit itself through. If your immune system "beat" it, it would go dormant and mutate itself to hard counter your immune system, then go active again, and win. Because of this mechanism, it possessed countless trillions of strains. If you did catch it, a cure was impossible and it was 100% lethal to everyone and anything that came into contact with it. Quite the horrible thing, no? But it gets worse. Among every species it ever interacted with, something special happened when it met with the parasite. They formed a symbiotic bond. Prevously, NAM-V was only able to survive on its own for a matter of just over a month. But with Parasitidae Garganta? it could survive FOREVER. It made the parasite and it's hosts no longer age, increased the durability, they no longer required food, water, or any nourishment. The infected that possessed both the virus and the parasite, called "Sleepers", would be capable of destroying entire worlds on their own. Knowing this threat, it wasn't enough. The virus and the parasite broke free on the Collector's ship, later known as the Vessel. The entire crew was destroyed, infected. Their vessel was left to drift for millions of years without anyone to pilot it. It later crashed into the earth, wiping out the dinosaurs ---

--- Far later on, earthquakes would open up cave networks allowing the burried vessel access to the surface where the ancient mayan civilization came into contact with the sleepers. They fought for years, and kept them held back in the tunnels, but for a price. Their entire civilization was wiped out, and the tunnels leading from the vessel to the surface were sealed via caveins. After a couple thousand years however, the tunnels opened up again via earthquakes. This time, along a perviously undescovered "Merida Faultline". This time, in the modern age. The red cross and disaster cleanup approached rapidly to help, but were swiftly turned and infected. Santonian Industries came to help to, and incinerated the infected with flamethrowers.

Now far above the vessel, santonian did scans of the surface to identify where the mysterious virus came from. They identified trillions of dollars worth of Iridium on their scans (a material used in chipsets that only reached earth naturally on asteroids). They began to dig, and establish the complex, Garganta. Another company however, Kovac, found out about what santonian did to the red cross and the refugees and threatened to make the information public. After lengthy negotiations, Santonian agreed to allow Kovac to establish their new heardquarters within Garganta, Known as "KDS-DEEP". --- [SIDE CUT] Kovac Defense Solutions. is private military company that also owns a technological firm, known as Kovac Research. Kovac Research in the 2030s had developed a new and innovative form of technology known as Hydrostasis. This technology was capable of killing the person that entered it, and reviving them later on. This was planned to be used for space travel, and was most notably used for the "Red Alpha" mission to mars. Hydrostasis had a fatal flaw, however. Over extended use, it wiped the memories of the occupants. When Red Alpha reached mars, all of the astronauts were essentially mindless, and their ship crashed into the surface shortly after, killing all aboard. As would be expected, this caused severe international condemnation for Kovac, who swiftly went underground with their technology. Years later, they came up with an idea. They intended to use the fatal flaw as a feature. They intended to create an army of slave soldiers that were completely and utterly unable to refuse commands. slave soldiers that were far more physically powerful and coordinated than any other army on earth. This program would be known as the Legion Program.

They used Hydrostasis along with SECBM chips embedded in the neck on kidnapped inmates from US penitentiaries. They would be forced to go under for a minimum of 1-2 years, then assigned into "Quads" of four other Legionaries. In the game, we play a squad of these slave soldiers, following the orders of an artificial intelligence designed to control them. This AI was known as BIOCOM. BIOCOM would later be hacked into and taken over by the last living collector, the WARDEN. --- [SIDE CUT ENDED]

As Santonian were digging and establishing their underground city, they came across strange tunnels and passages from the vessel. They uncovered artifacts and devices from within and sent them off to their sister company, INSIGHT, to be studied. While INSIGHT was studying these artifacts, the access tunnel was made to be quarantined, and nobody without proper PPE was allowed entry. Two employees of Santonian however, went in raw. They later showd minor flu like symptoms in the following weeks. These two employees would become patient 0 and patient 1 of NAM-V infection in the modern age.

From hereon out, a whole lot more occurs, so I am going to skip around a little.
Later on, INSIGHT sets up shop within Garganta so they can conduct research on the artifacts easier. The three heads of INSIGHT, Hammerstein, Stokes, & Durant went to work. Durant was assigned Artifact #3 of the Collection, the Matter Wave Projector. He built teleporters, and with the help of Stokes, began sending expeditions to alien worlds that the Collectors visited in the past, starting with the desert planet Destination. Hammerstein began making expeditions deeper into the vessel, and with the help of Kovac's Legionaries, he uncovered countless specimens from across the multiverse. Knowing the sleepers within the vessel where highly sensitive to sound, he began blasting different audio frequencies to gauge a reaction. One of these frequencies however, would do something he would come to regret. It would cause the Vessel to React. Massive bolts of lighting and fire, instantaneously vaporizing thousands and thousands of meters of rock and stone as if it were nothing, and kept on going! Temperature readings later examined from the event would place them at several magnitudes hotter than temperatures at the CENTER OF THE SUN. These vaporized tunnels wound in some cases, reach past the surface and in others, would stop just short of the seabed, as if the vessel knew that if the beams continued, they would cause flooding. These infernal craters, tunnels into the abyss, would be built over by Santonian and used as faster access shafts to bring supplies and people down into Garganta. This is the loading screen and how we enter each and every mission. Not every one of these tunnels is the same size, with some being far smaller. One common factor though, is the bent and molten metal flowing upward as it followed the blasts.

Over time, Kovac, and by extension, Humanity would lose its war with the parasite and the virus. By the time the game starts, the surface is largely dead and the last remnants of humanity are us. Biological slaves, without the free will to disobey biocom, and by extension the warden.

your mission starts in 2063, r1a1.

(to others reading, please tell me if I forgot something, or feel free to add it yourselves to the text monolith here)

(I intentionally did not cover the virus' spread on the surface)

[eternal talon]

does that suffuce? the game is incredibly deep and complex.

its hard to be simple when there is so much shit

[graceful bolt]

i dont what to say

uh simple enough to be some hidden message in poster or something

[eternal talon]

i left out much of the RISE program and other stuffs you would likely come across in later rundowns.

but if you ever have future questions, I am always present and able to answer practically anything.

[graceful bolt]

when i come around the rest of the rundown i will come back for this

[honest summit]

The Wall of Text jumpscare

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-long-list-list-infinite-list-gif-7915371

[regal olive]

Practically anything

[lilac island]

Is there a lore reason why some sleepers have feminine and slender figures, maybe they're tomboys and there are some who are legit nba players with muscle mass and why do most sleepers have choco chipped buttocks?

[royal crow]

Or maybe they have a feminine figure because they were a woman before they turned into a sleeper

||also the sleepers have a massive cake to make the prisioners attracted and get an easy kill||

[lilac island]

LoL

Sleepers with the gyatt is what awakened the prisoners in stasis, like when the they take those "breath-losing" gasps when they drop down but on a serious note, I can sort of understand why their heads are split open. It is because their brains have been eaten by that virus but why is there a charco plated gemstones on their behind and is the reason behind their massive tongue game because these sleepers evolved to scan the room with their tongue like a snake sensing the environment? Is this the right channel to discuss all this or do I need to go to the spoiler Channel

[royal crow]

You are in the right channel for this

Also @eternal talon can help You more than anyone else in this topic

I really have no idea about sleeper anatomy

[lilac island]

We are literally incel perverts stalking and watching naked beings sleeping and poking them with our sticks, maybe we are the real monsters,

[royal crow]

Maybe

maybe

[next panther]

Who gon stop me

[royal crow]

Hey Frosty

How are You doing

[wispy temple]

opens lore channel
200 psychic damage

[eternal talon]

I'm completely baffled by 90% of what was posted. "Brains have been eaten" whaaaat? "Charco plated gemstones" WHAT? "Snake sensing environment" what even?

[eternal talon]

Okay, yeah. I'm not going to bother making a genuine reply here. This is straight trolling.

[eternal talon]

It's honestly not really that complicated.

The physical and genetic makeup of the host is the largest factor in determining what subtype of sleeper it is mutated into. The black tumors are just black tumors. You can see them on the infected that died from NAM-V, too. The heads being split on strikers aren't anything to do with eating brains... they aren't zombies. It's just an effort to further weaponize the host. Same reason why the hands and feet are joined together into giant clubs.

As for the tongue, it's the same thing. Extremely mutated with repurposed biomass, and a fuckton of teeth grown into the thing.

Basically everything to do with the sleepers can be explained with "It was the most effective mutation given the host, and it was mutated in such a way to fuck shit up the best. Everything else is just tumors and cancerous growths."

Add:

Sleepers don't have snake tongues... ugh.

They are hyper sensitive to sound and light, if you've even played a single expedition, you would know this.

[lilac island]

What I wanted was to draw some parallels from the Prisoners and sleepers, both of them "sleep"(cryostasis for the prisoners and the virus for the sleepers), both of them have lost their autonomy, either through an implantation of the chip and then lacking a brain because it was mutated to be split open and its brain being absent (most probably consumed) because these sleepers dont need it. I just wanted to theorise a reason for the various mutations that gave the specific type of sleepers their weapons/powers like the massive tongue coming out and taking a swing at the prisoners, it seemed as if it were a snake trying to sense the environment or the scout sleeper's character model being a bit feminine and always being on the prowl, as if being a protective mother over the other sleepers. I am currently in R1B2, I was just very much fascinated by the lore that I googled most of it, it was very interesting and something different, it definitely deserves a movie or a mini series of its own.

It definitely disturbed me to see their butts being covered like that and I was just intrigued to know why only their butt was affected to be like that.

[lilac island]

yeah, this was a troll comment lol

[warped bloom]

Hearsay on

[next panther]

Aight I really gotta shit tho

I’m back in Australia tho

[distant geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I6Hka8D0n0 does anyone know any other comprehensive lore vids, this guys voice is really annoying, unfortunately he's the person I'm seeing with the most up to date vids.

[warped bloom]

Lol

[coral gorge]

Wow scaler getting shit on lmao

well

[distant geyser]

its not really his fault, his delivery is just not amazing

[coral gorge]

there is one video thats probably my fav but its pretty old

[distant geyser]

like I dont have any malice for him, I just can't stand his voice

[coral gorge]

from OG R6 to be precise

[distant geyser]

I feel the same way about hidden xperia, vids are fine but I cant stand the voice

[coral gorge]

But the things covered in it should still be up to date as far as i know

[distant geyser]

r6 is pretty close to current

[coral gorge]

I mean OG R6, thats way back

thats the original full release of the game

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_wZwIp81xt8&t=48s&pp=ygUSSW5maW5pdGUgZHVjayBndGZv

[distant geyser]

oh yeah I've seen that vid pop up

[coral gorge]

But i’d say it still holds up

[distant geyser]

thank you : )

[lilac island]

This is the best most detailed video there is and if you can "suffer" through his voice then there is a tonne of content through it, personally I dont care about his voice and is very informative, his guides are also good

[solemn kraken]

OG R6 is from before the whole Alt timeline so you'll get accurate info about OG Stuff but will miss the whole 2nd half of the lore

Still a start

[coral gorge]

yeah id say that if you dont want too many spoilers, infinite ducks vid is pretty good

still leaves a lot to explore on your own

scalers newest one does lay out the vast majority of the lore tho, only leaving a couple minor mini-plots

[snow elk]

Seems pretty legit to me idk

Virus spread , me kill infected that’s what I understand :3

And do objectives to achieve freedom?

Maybe

[next panther]

The concept of a joke is not hard to understand in modern society if I’m not mistaken

[coral gorge]

yes, like real incels, we are all in a cell. A very big, elaborate cell known as the complex

=)

[cedar eagle]

Hey Frostty, just to let you know that we were informed that the graph shown in this pinned message is no longer accurate and so we have removed it from the pins. Please give me a ping when you get a chance to update it and we can re-pin the message

[coral gorge]

wow, i make an updated version of the graph but no one cares to ping it cause i dont have "loremaster" in my name, truly 1984
/s

[next panther]

RAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[cedar eagle]

I'm not too familiar with the lore but if things are accurate and helpful, feel free to ping me and I can pin it, doesn't have to be from just one person

[coral gorge]

@cedar eagle

through the magic of finding old files (from like 2 weeks ago)
i found the file

[cedar eagle]

huge and big

[coral gorge]

oh god wait

the for dummies doc was in the same message

shit, well frosty is gonna have to resend that one so its pinned too

[cedar eagle]

I believe that doc was updated not long ago anyway so it needed reposting regardless

[eternal talon]

Just more reason to actually put effort into working on the pdf

I'll get it finished eventually...

[eternal talon]

May I incorporate your graph into the PDF?

[royal crow]

no

[coral gorge]

yeah sure
Like its not even really my graph, its just the old one with the funny quad removed and the lines recoloured which took like 10 mins atmost

[coral gorge]

stfu alex

[royal crow]

make me

bitch

[coral gorge]

Im gonna nuke mexico and you will regret your words

[regal olive]

The reason the prisoners survived is so that GTFO makes sense in lore

Gtfo 2 i mean

[toxic wagon]

Den of Wolves*

[lilac island]

It's definitely going to be a less from dark game with similar elements

[warped bloom]

Den of Owlv

[lone portal]

I open this chat and this is the first thing I see and I've played enough of the game in my 130 hours to know what's going on but seeing it on paper I can't help but think "yeah what the fuck is going on"

[coral gorge]

Yeahhhhh
Its a tad bit confusing but once you look at it long enough it should make sense

[solemn kraken]

Completely accurate tbf. good job

[lone portal]

I mean it does but ouch

[coral gorge]

Now
Time to make a graph that showcases every wordlines squad, moderate or major plotline and the 2 playable squads across the rundowns

=)

[solemn kraken]

Go for it would be interesting to see for sure

[trim wigeon]

Then play through the entire game and read every lore log. He did it, so you don’t have to.

[royal crow]

Even scaler missed some stuff in his video

[eternal talon]

I mean, to be fair, his video doesn't even so much as mention the Collectors and a couple other things.

They are the entire reason why the game even happened, so kind of a crucial detail.

[trim wigeon]

funnily enough, i don’t even know who those are

aside from the point, i didnt watch scalers lore video either, i just know how much effort he put into it

[eternal talon]

The collectors are an ancient species of aliens that traveled the multiverse collecting specimens from hundreds of different worlds.

They crashed into the Yucatan.

They brought the virus and the parasite here

THE WARDEN IS A COLLECTOR

[royal crow]

Yucatan :D

[eternal talon]

The pits we drop into the complex in were created by their ship's weapon system

The entire point of rundowns 3. 6, and 7 were to do with the neonates and repurposing rise, so the collectors could talk to us

The artifacts are theirs,

The mwp is a collector artifact

I could go on for hours.

So much of this game's lore is dependant on more of the game's lore. And none of it is found together. All 200+ logs are scattered all over the place, and some aren't even feasibly possible for someone to get or "crack" on their own.

There are the encoded logs that took the entire community weeks solve, there are the email logs which... unless you have a time machine, GOOD LUCK

[royal crow]

Time machines can't work backwards
We can't go to the past

[eternal talon]

And a couple dozen or so just aren't in the game and have never been. They've been hosted on the santonian industries website

[plush nest]

What artifact number is the mwp?

[distant geyser]

I still am likely going to watch the video, unfortunately my friends and I are not likely to make it 100% of the way through the game. There’s just too many levels. Mainly because each takes us an hour or more to complete/fail

[eternal talon]

13

There are several thousand

[trim wigeon]

that’s exactly my point

[plush nest]

Why is r6a1 named artifact 7?

[royal crow]

You can just jump to rundown 6 and do it on order

Thats were the important lore is

[plush nest]

Or am I just mis remembering?

[eternal talon]

ahh, you are right!
I was mistaken.

I just caught sight of a preliminary report on the item they're calling the Data Block - artifact 13 of the Hammerstein Collection (yeah, he named it after himself). They tried to conduct a material analysis on it and lost half of their equipment to a "physical anomaly".

13 is one of the datablocks, was misremembering the quote.

r6a1 is artifact 7, yes.

[royal crow]

Then whats artifact 1
The ship?

[plush nest]

Ya I haven’t lost it yet

[eternal talon]

Okay, let’s start with artifact 7 of the collection, the Matter Wave Projector.

**I have some thoughts on artifacts 13, 14 and 17. I’m referring to these items as “The Data Blocks”, **

[plush nest]

Likely just a suspicious looking rock

[eternal talon]

(until they launch r7 and are suddenly confused why schaeffer is fighting the warden)
AAAAAGHHHH

[royal crow]

Unfortunate

Should have played OG R6

[eternal talon]

we dont know. i think only those four are numbered.

[eternal talon]

funny thing is, they've completely scrubbed it. reuploaded and edited videos on their youtube, too. a new player would have no clue the og rundowns even existed

let alone the fact the story was different

[royal crow]

💀

What the fuck

What was 10C thinking

Eh who cares

[eternal talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWU0gFul9Ro look at the upload date

[royal crow]

They were smoking something while doing GTFO

[gray bone]

In og r6 does schaffer talk to us at r6d1 as well

Just curious

[eternal talon]

he talks to us a LOT more in og

they removed like 20 lines of dialogue

[solemn kraken]

He does at R6A1, R6D1 and you hear him in R6DX

[eternal talon]

from rebecca stokes, too iirc.

[solemn kraken]

R6C1 was her level

[eternal talon]

i know, i just don't recall if they removed the intercom audio in ALT//

[solemn kraken]

they did

It's all silence in Alt

except for end of R6D1

[eternal talon]

then yeah, also removed mimic audio in c2

tons of voice lines scrubbed

[gray bone]

mimic?

[solemn kraken]

Unit17

[eternal talon]

what the community previously called the conduit before given a canon name

[gray bone]

Oh that thing that alt schaffer listened to

[eternal talon]

schaeffer killed it with a lead pipe in OG, schaeffer was willing to listen to it in ALT//

[plush nest]

I was all excited to hear metal pipe in person

[solemn kraken]

and OG schaeffer killed

[eternal talon]

which is why alt//r7 doesn't exist. warden didn't need to make a new one, and schaeffer didn't a-war.

[gray bone]

???

[solemn kraken]

Could hear it live too in DX

[plush nest]

That assumes that I am good enough to beat a d tier

[solemn kraken]

In OG it's not in Alt anymore. silence

only silence

[eternal talon]

the "waaaaaaaaaaa" will never NOT be hilarious

[plush nest]

Auditable silence, or just actual silence?

[gray bone]

Actual silence

[eternal talon]

completely removed

[solemn kraken]

No dialogue

[gray bone]

You don't hear anything

[plush nest]

Boring

[eternal talon]

you can hear the beatdown here

[solemn kraken]

And Unit 17 does not get whacked by schaeffer

[eternal talon]

genuinely missed out

[solemn kraken]

so makes sense

[plush nest]

Currently in class so

[royal crow]

Fuck it im playing OG 6

[eternal talon]

DIE YOU FUCKING MUTANT

[royal crow]

[hazy ferry]

og R6 was clearly the most popular rundown

[eternal talon]

well the .wav is there when you get out

[hazy ferry]

also the easiest

[eternal talon]

it was 1.0 after all, full release out of EA

[solemn kraken]

R1 ...

[hazy ferry]

yeah

[plush nest]

Not done for the day until 4:30 because I need a lab for some reason

[hazy ferry]

I mean people did have troubles in og r1

[plush nest]

But I’ll have a look at it then

[hazy ferry]

they know shit lol

[gray bone]

I remember og r1 footage
It looked like a troll

[hazy ferry]

only mark was strong enough...

[solemn kraken]

It's still objectively easier

[eternal talon]

ogr1 was gorgeous wdym??? old lighting engine POG

complete with c*m foam

[royal crow]

My laptop would melt

[hazy ferry]

come on...

[gray bone]

I wish c foam still looked like that ngl

[royal crow]

Tasty

[hazy ferry]

foam in r1c1

[royal crow]

Also why do You have a random foam picture

🤨

[eternal talon]

I will DIE on the hill that the old lighting engine was better.

[hazy ferry]

google dot com

dumbass

[eternal talon]

i have tons and TONS of photos.

old and new.

from over the years

[eternal talon]

you can see my name in chat...

[coral gorge]

frosty just documented her entire journey

She was like an osha employee, capturing every single thing that could be a safety hazard

[eternal talon]

-- when poppers were added to the game

[royal crow]

Poppers

[coral gorge]

What a horrible day that was

also

[royal crow]

You love them

Cubix

[coral gorge]

poppers?
Thats actually a sick name

way better than spitters

[eternal talon]

you say that... but i do have a ton of photos of random walls

[royal crow]

Why

[hazy ferry]

the chat

wtf

[royal crow]

Frosty about to make a lore theory out of walls

[eternal talon]

i've always been a HUGE fan of defense in games. r1c1 was my favorite. took a fuckton of screenshots to map out my favorite subzone to defend

[royal crow]

"erectile dysfunction"

What the fuck

[coral gorge]

Ekhm
As seen on the picture #20012 that wall was slightly tilted and hence made it possible for personel to try and lean against it and then fall as a result, making it a hazard

[coral gorge]

Our ingame chats are worse, dont judge others

[coral gorge]

gaming
I love such maps

[royal crow]

Yeah but i don't take screenshots of it

Maybe i should

I 100% should

[eternal talon]

in RTS games i am a hard-time turtling player. make games take 9 hours and be unbreakable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtling_(gameplay)

[royal crow]

Turtling? Turtles?

[coral gorge]

turtles? I feed mine plastic straws so they evolve to overcome them

[eternal talon]

making a base that can't be attacked, but i don't have the econ to attack back. i can't lose, but i can't win so the game goes until the opponent DCs

and you thought gtfo sessions were long...

longest i've ever turtled was 11 hours straight in Halo Wars 1

[coral gorge]

based

[eternal talon]

Pavium is my spirit animal. pure defense, no offense.

[coral gorge]

reminds me of the good ol days of 1915, when you would look at the germans desperately trying to run through the dead mans land
They did fight good tho, took em 4 years to dc

[eternal talon]

(i also exclusively play tanks in MMOs, wouldn't you guess?)

[coral gorge]

lmao

i was gonna suggest your spirit animal should be like a t-34

[eternal talon]

artillery is peak, ngl

only tank when i can't snipe from miles out

[coral gorge]

I
i am gonna frog you kaiser
i am gonna frog you like you were never frogged before
i will make sure frogs haunt your nightmares till the end of your days
and even when you will be awake, they will be sitting there, waiting for you
they will be watching you slowly go insane, as they laugh at you
forever and ever

[royal crow]

missed opportunity to say frogever

[cold sphinx]

You will frog me?

Name every frog that ever existed

Excluding giant frogs from the cretaceous period

[coral gorge]

hehehe
You dare challenge me, you mortal scum?

[cold sphinx]

Bc those things devour dinosaur

[royal crow]

frugm*

[cold sphinx]

I dont like that

[cold sphinx]

In 30s

[coral gorge]

ekhm
Let me just say i dont give a shit if i get banned for this

ekhm

[royal crow]

i have been waiting for this

[cold sphinx]

Let him speak picolo

Let him speak

They need to hear this

Holy shit how long

[royal crow]

cubix is old

let the grandpa type

[regal olive]

is gtfo worse overall than than working in the service industry

[cold sphinx]

Arent you like 18

[regal olive]

i can't tell

[cold sphinx]

You child

[royal crow]

maybe

arent you like 30

[coral gorge]

||steve, larry, john, jenkins, your mom, uncle sam, spaghetti, grub, mary, jane, rudolf, heinrich, adolf, wilhelm the 2nd and wilhelm the 3rd, your mom (again, she counts as two frogs), jacob, khan, jacek, josef, jesus, jd vance, joe, richard, neville, heydrich||
Then honorary mentions go to:
||Frog of waR||
||Frog of cAt||
||Frog of Pleasure||
||Frog of somEthing else||
||Frog of Your mom||
||Frog of fictiOn||
||Frog of fUnnines||
||Frog of Idk||
||Frog of Will smith||
||Frog of god thIs is so long||
||And then 2 Ls for you||

[coral gorge]

Nah
You dont get sexually assaulted

i dont think atleast

[coral gorge]

you’re next fucker

[royal crow]

the sleepers lick people

[royal crow]

your*

[cold sphinx]

That is the longest and weakest insult ive ever had

[coral gorge]

Yeah sure, just dont look at it too closely

[cold sphinx]

It doesnt even make sense

All i see is blank

[royal crow]

blind old mf

[coral gorge]

real

[cold sphinx]

Wow

[coral gorge]

whos old now huh

[cold sphinx]

You kiddies never respect the elders

[royal crow]

nope

[coral gorge]

considering what i wrote? Yeah absolutely no respect

[royal crow]

elders dont have the same skibidi rizz as me

[cold sphinx]

I didnt see shit

It didnt load for me

[coral gorge]

skill issue

i win

get lost kaiser

[eternal talon]

A better comparison would be "is it better than working in the asbestos industry?"

[royal crow]

amazon > Kovac

[eternal talon]

Particularly as a person in an asbestos mill or in the mines

[coral gorge]

THE CHILDREN YEARN FOR THE MINES

[eternal talon]

minecraft

[coral gorge]

I hope gtfo 2 has children soldiers

[coral gorge]

real
Good thing frostpunk 2 is coming out soon

[eternal talon]

U22 and U23

[coral gorge]

i can relive my utopia again

[coral gorge]

they dont count, they’re autistic

[cold sphinx]

Im playing helldivers

What do you mean get lost?

I only stated the fact silksong is still delayed

[coral gorge]

Can i play with you OwO? Daddy kaiser i wawwa dive!

god kill me

[cold sphinx]

Then you pulled the nerd master froggit

[eternal talon]

You aren't the captain in 2. You have to deal with "bureaucracy" and "democracy" and "labor laws" and "rights"

[cold sphinx]

Haii frosttty

[coral gorge]

I know
I get to outmanouver democracy just like irl

thats the fun part

[eternal talon]

American Politician simulator

[coral gorge]

real

[royal crow]

Im going to make that a sticker

Get fucked

[coral gorge]

Thats it, the moment i buy frostpunk 2 you are going in the mines

[eternal talon]

"can I play with yOwO" would be better

[coral gorge]

The city must become racist

[coral gorge]

god

you are so right

but that is so wrong

[eternal talon]

What's fucked is it's even pronounced the same

You could never know if someone is OwOing you without text

[plush nest]

Ya I see what you mean

[plush nest]

So you’re the problem!!

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-build-break-gif-4651371

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-brickwall-funny-gif-12102035

[thick ridge]

⚠️ PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC ⚠️🇫🇷

[coral gorge]

no
also why french?

[thick ridge]

Wow

@ moderators

[warped bloom]

ban this guy

[regal olive]

Mods, put him in hydrostasis

[tranquil sentinel]

sealed away
https://youtu.be/nWknuMOO-A8?si=axesb_xyOyHDZNev

[eternal talon]

Under what circumstances would a red baby exist?

Why was it only seen on the merch store?

[coral gorge]

i guess it was just in a lot of blood
Or i guess someone gave birth to it pre-turning?

[eternal talon]

No, I mean the red variant

The ones that come during alarms.

The ones that canonically disintegrate

The merch store had a red baby plushie, despite the only ones ever seen in game are white

[coral gorge]

Idk then

maybe it was supposed to be pink?

arent some babies kinda pink-ish

[eternal talon]

No, like... you should look at the listing

Or actually, one sec

I own one

It's like... super meaty

Like BBQ meaty

[coral gorge]

maybe scheaffer fried it

WAIT YES
THIS IS WHAT HE HAS BEEN EATING ALL THIS TIME

scheaffer has been bbquing children!

it all makes sense now!

[royal crow]

What the fuck

[coral gorge]

=)

[eternal talon]

They sold out so fucking fast.
I also own one of the Santonian hard hats.

god I love gtfo

[coral gorge]

i think i finally have ascended to the same level 10cc writers have

[royal crow]

Yeah but do You own GTFO underwear?

[coral gorge]

does the hat actually work like a hard hat tho?

[coral gorge]

greatest merch of all time

[eternal talon]

Yeah, it's certified.

They took a Bluewear industrial hardhat and put a bunch of vinyl stickers or something on it

[coral gorge]

Gaming

[eternal talon]

Kinda disappointing tbh

But I own one

[coral gorge]

hey atleast if you ever go into construction, you got your own hard hat

im still waiting for a size-accurate tank statue tho

[next panther]

I SHOULD

But they didn’t give me one

I got the plushie and the helmet and the toilet paper though 😎

[dawn geyser]

bro wears his dow cap everywhere too

[next panther]

What else am I meant to wear

[dawn geyser]

gtfo shirt femboy cosplays

[elder sable]

Pink lingerie 😈🥵

Pls

[crisp lance]

I would buy merch, but I'm broke 🥲

[eternal talon]

I just made another monolith of text.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/1fkuu09/apparent_lore_inconsistencies/
kinda funny, its rare that lore is discussed on the Subreddit, but I watch it none-the-less

[raw terrace]

do the plants die cuz it's nam v? i always assumed it was cuz of the atmosphere of Destination, along with maybe some other thing but

is it nam v? is it said somewhere?

[eternal talon]

BEHOLD, PLANT!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notobasis_syriaca

dead plants don't have buds.

[raw terrace]

that's

[eternal talon]

and they are EVERYWHERE

[raw terrace]

not my question kdmskd

ik they ded

[eternal talon]

you could argue the roots are dead, though.

[raw terrace]

i'm just wondering if it is cuz of destination itself, or nam v
cuz idk if it's specified

[eternal talon]

not much of a root connoisseur

[eternal talon]

nam-v doesn't affect plants at all, as far as we know.

it only affects fauna.

[raw terrace]

so the last point of the reddit post isn't a plot hole

it's just, an assumption

[eternal talon]

complex has tons of plants too

[royal crow]

Can we eat them?

[eternal talon]

the ferns? probably not. no nutritional value.

the pumpkins? probably, depends on how rotten

[raw terrace]

also the income of kovac for the second point seems to be globally

not just from dreyfus

which would explain why they gain so much

[eternal talon]

OH NO, I'VE DISCOVERED A HOLE IN MY COLLECTION! I HAVE NO PICTURES OF THE PUMPKINS!!!!

[raw terrace]

they work with everyone

including governments

[raw terrace]

smh

[eternal talon]

Dreyfus is a sci-fi megacorp, they probably have trillions to throw around.

[raw terrace]

that's true too

so that's just more of a non plot hole lol

[eternal talon]

i posted several lengthy replies in the comments, clearing up misconceptions.

as is typical. you as a question, you receive an essay.

[raw terrace]

oh

they don't appear :]

thanks reddit

i was wondering why u didn't answer it

turns out yes u did

[eternal talon]

i had to set my engine to 80% to fit entire post on screen...

[raw terrace]

yayyy

[eternal talon]

I covered every sentence in their post with a paragraph.

cited, as always 😉

[coral gorge]

lmao

good

make them suffer

thats what they get for using reddit

[regal olive]

i can't believe you did that frosty

you used... reddit...

without any monetary incentive ...

[south remnant]

thank you for the gold, kind stranger

[snow elk]

I think the virus spread recenty

and we are sent to complete objectives

[eternal talon]

Depends on what you consider "recently". It's been on earth for millions of years and has broke out twice, most recently was a decade ago that wiped all life off the surface.

[eternal talon]

We are slaves completing objectives for the last surviving member of a dead species (not humanity, but they are also dead too)

[snow elk]

idk about that

millions of years the game setting seems fairly new

[next panther]

Dont argue rose

[snow elk]

girlie im not arguing

[next panther]

its a warning

[snow elk]

im correcting her misconception about understanding the lore

[next panther]

brave

[loud urchin]

the warden?

[snow elk]

what do you mean

[loud urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/blocked-gif-26521767

[snow elk]

dont block me :_:

[next panther]

im just a hater

[loud urchin]

i'd never block you girlie

[snow elk]

I can tell

[loud urchin]

frostty will block you quickly though

and still read every message

[snow elk]

WHAT DID I DO

I just corrected a mistake

:_:

[next panther]

1st mistake

[eternal talon]

...what?

[eternal talon]

would you like to prove that claim? i can prove mine.

[next panther]

Gargantua doesnt seem millions of years old

[eternal talon]

EBDT_01BE1.LOG
SWNE-191-FRT-M.LOG
2CB-5U8-DBK.LOG

[eternal talon]

garganta itself isn't.

but the ship, and the virus/parasite have been here for 65 million years

[snow elk]

idk how I can prove it :_: I can only prove stuff in physics :3

or filament winding FORMULAS CAUSE ST.PETERS BOOK IS FULL OFMISTAKES !!!

sorry I lost it for a second

[eternal talon]

WKRP-817-CIN.LOG
NNT-453Y.LOG

[warped bloom]

we have been waiting for 3 billiion seconsd

[eternal talon]

these three logs here, the virus infected and spread, destroying the ancient mayans in the 7-9th century.

[eternal talon]

the ship crashed 65 million years, ago. Destination time (85x), that is billions of years.

these five logs are my proof. Please don't "correct" if you can't back up your claims.

[royal crow]

Frosy

Frostty

She is trolling

[eternal talon]

a whole lot of things have happened before the game starts, even during this most recent outbreak in the 2050s.

[eternal talon]

so what is it? an alt? I thought most of the people like that got NLO'd from here

[solemn kraken]

A new NLO candidate

[royal crow]

You really need to spend more time in the other chats

[eternal talon]

I have been

[royal crow]

a lot more

[eternal talon]

nah, the lore will pretty much always be my primary interest with this game

[snow elk]

? I just corrected when she said a wrong thing

[eternal talon]

p r o v e i t.

[royal crow]

nuh uh, time to get to speedrunning

[loud urchin]

speedrunning lore runs deep

[eternal talon]

speedrunning has never really been my thing. I prefer more methodical styles of gameplay. I'm the type of D&D player to insta-buy the 10ft pole.

[loud urchin]

and then you spend 15 minutes in one room in a dungeon slamming it into every tile on the floor and driving the DM up for wall as you check for traps instead of asking if you can make a perception check first?

[royal crow]

If it works
It works

[eternal talon]

if the 20 armor class at 1st level doesn't kill them first.

"Sword and Board? More like Shield and Pole"

[loud urchin]

20ac how?

iirc as a fighter (or similar class) you can get to 18ac with chain mail + shield + defence fighting style

i don't believe clerics get fighting styles so you couldn't combine that with a shield of faith spell

paladins don't get spellcasting at level 1 either, though they do get shield of faith

[eternal talon]

Fighter
Chain Mail = 16ac
Shield for +1 ac, = 18

**Walls, trees, creatures, and other obstacles can provide cover during combat, making a target more difficult to harm. A target can benefit from cover only when an attack or other effect originates on the opposite side of the cover.

There are three degrees of cover. If a target is behind multiple sources of cover, only the most protective degree of cover applies; the degrees aren't added together. For example, if a target is behind a creature that gives half cover and a tree trunk that gives three-quarters cover, the target has three-quarters cover.

A target with half cover has a +2 bonus to AC and Dexterity saving throws. A target has half cover if an obstacle blocks at least half of its body. The obstacle might be a low wall, a large piece of furniture, a narrow tree trunk, or a creature, whether that creature is an enemy or a friend.**

then I usually play Harengon (rabbitfolk) for extra dex saves, ignoring the one weakness of high ac stacking.

[loud urchin]

aint no way you're calling half cover part of your armour class

[eternal talon]

when you move slow and methodical, you are never leaving cover. but besides, that honestly you can get higher than 20 with some races

[sudden quarry]

can we keep this on topic please guys

[loud urchin]

if i'm never leaving cover than I'm never doing anything other than spamming ranged attacks

[eternal talon]

tortle can reach 19 with natural armor, and a +1 shield is only 112gp.

[eternal talon]

no real topic to discuss tbh rn. waiting for rose to never come back with logs

[sudden quarry]

yea lets keep it on topic please guys

[snow elk]

I tried

[sudden quarry]

no dnd discussions here, thats for general 🙂

[snow elk]

uh I dont know from llogs themselves just game setting

[eternal talon]

https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Logs here is all of them.
CTRL+F to search for what you are looking for.

[royal crow]

💀

[eternal talon]

even the ones you can't otherwise access are there.

[royal crow]

Frostty

What do You think about Destiny Rising

[eternal talon]

never heard of it

[royal crow]

Destiny Mobile game

Gacha Mobile game*

[loud urchin]

where on earth did 112gp come from? Uncommon items cost between 101-500gp as suggested by the DMG, 112gp does not seem to be all that much

[eternal talon]

I stopped playing destiny a while ago after Pete bought a new lambo

[royal crow]

Damn

He needs a new car Frostty

You have to understand is for the future of the company

:)

[coral gorge]

frostty
its time to move on
GTFO is gone
we must head on to new heights
such as DoW
we must create batshit insane theories based on 2 trailers. i believe if we get high enough we can predict the writers

[eternal talon]

a quick google, I don't have my book on hand atm, but still within the range. It depends who you buy it from and yeah, uncommon magic items are pretty dirt cheap. I mean artificers can make bags of holding starting at 2nd level FOR FREE, along with a ton of other options.

[eternal talon]

nah

honestly not really a fan of what's been shown for DOW so far

[coral gorge]

well uhh

fuck

just

become a fan

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-gif-18732240

[loud urchin]

i think there's a reason surveys normally state what each option means...

[royal crow]

Nothing beats Destiny lore

[eternal talon]

stars

[gray bone]

Golfball resurrects people to fight against alien spiders, alien moths, alien rhinos and spagetti

[royal crow]

Ah yes
Spaghetti

WHY IS DISCORD MOBILE SO BROKEN

[thick ridge]

Please stay on topic 🇳🇱

[hazy ferry]

SHOCK!

[regal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/furret-umbrellas-rainy-morning-gif-25499089

[lilac island]

If the prisoners were able to hack up a Striker, use it as a human sock puppet and cosplayed as one, will they be detected.

[queen gazelle]

Congress thinks congress needs more money

Surely there is no bias on poll results due to selection

[gray bone]

I thought they just wanted money

Not need it

[quasi meadow]

I accidentally clicked this while scrolling and I can't say I disagree with the "5" I randomly voted for lmao

The universe itself put my finger on the answer

[regal olive]

gow rdr2 better

gowr

subnasutics

[lilac island]

The idea of cryo freezing sick ass people, so they can be unfrozen when there is a development in their cure is a revolutionary and a dystopian concept. Reminds me of a short from YouTube

https://youtube.com/shorts/LZm0d0RL6xg?feature=shared

"wake me up, when the rundown ends"

[eternal talon]

Hydrostasis isn't cryostasis.

Hydrostasis kills you, puts you in a sort of artificial womb, pumps you full of TONS of chemicals, completely sterilizing fucking everything, then injects you with concentrated Hydrokinetic Fluid, waking and reviving your corpse when your hydrostasis session is finally over.

Hydrostasis kills everything inside it. That is why it is a "cure" for nam-v. Everything dies, no exceptions.

Also, it wasn't really freezing people until a cure could be found... very very few people had access to HSUs, and the only place on earth that had them to our knowledge was Garganta. The people on the surface were just fucked, and the civilians and workers within garganta were trapped and left for dead by biocom while it recalled all of its KSOs into stasis

[regal olive]

i wanna get the hydrostasis lobotomy

please place me in hydrostasis and wake me up without the required plant juice so i keep stacking extreme amounts of brain damage

[lilac island]

Could have just made Mr Freeze "Hydrostasis suit"

[lilac island]

For similar experience, doom scroll tiktok 24hrs a minute

[regal olive]

no i want the real deal

[lilac island]

Best I can do is walmart

[lilac island]

So like a human pickle, increasing "shelf" life of "vegetables"

[lilac island]

Couldn't they have just nuked garganta "hydrostatically" to stop the name v virus from making it to outside.

[lilac island]

That's the exact shit that happened during COVID, government officials got first service to vaccines and there was a propoganda on the inefficiency of masks, especially in bro joegan, so the "important people" could get the already existing limited n95 masks, whole the commoners dropped like flies

[eternal talon]

not really, for a variety of reasons.

1: the first two infected, did so by breaking quarantine, and didn't show symptoms for weeks.
2: when the entirety of the complex began showing symptoms, Santonian set them up at relaxation camps on the coast...
3: Santonian downplayed and lied about the dangers of nam-v in an attempt to keep people calm about the situation.
4: symptoms started relatively minor as it was adapting to infect humans, and it was not immediately the deus-ex-machina that it ended up being.
5: patient 0 immediately went on the run, crossing through Mexico and into the USA.

[eternal talon]

**The breakthrough that Kovac Research hopes will answer these questions
is called Hydrostasis - a process that allows humans to be held in a
state of suspended animation for weeks, months, even years at a time
without suffering any ill-effects. The nuts and bolts of the process
are a closely guarded secret, but sources speculate that the procedure
likely uses a synthetic amniotic fluid to sustain and protect the body
while it is in an induced comatose state. In this state, the body is -
for all intents and purposes - dead, but no cell deterioration or
physical decay occurs. For the human in Hydrostasis, the heart, and
time, stops.

Hydrostasis is not without its critics. Many have decried Kovac
Research's tendency to gloss over the problems found in the recently
completed first human trials - namely that participants have suffered
some neural degradation and “minor” memory loss. There have also been
questions raised about who Kovac Research is using for the human
trials, with some suggesting that participation may not be entirely
voluntary.**

one of only a couple logs talking abt it

[eternal talon]

to be fair, we don't really know of any normal people using it because of the side effects. the memory loss issues stack up until you are eventually nothing but a walking sludge.

Okay, come on John… you can fix this! Notes… Notes, notes, notes, notes… Here… hydrostasis revival… “Before the synthiotic fluid transfusion begins, a hydrokinetic solution must be administered to prevent… catastrophic neocortical tissue collapse. Without it, the subject will become violent and exhibit uncontrolled…” “The solution is automatically administered by the D.I. controller prior to the reanimation procedure. However, should the HSU be isolated from a capable interface, the solution must be administered manually.” Manually? Oh… Maddox.

---

The only method we have found of killing the virus is by stopping the biological functions of the host through hydrostasis (or death). Fortunately, the parasites have not yet found a way into the HSUs. However, after hydrostasis reinfection is possible. We continue to improve our sterilization and prophylaxis methods, but we are fighting a losing battle. I see no future for us if we do not seek the origin of these lifeforms and find an immune genome. If we are to survive NAM-V, we must turn to the nature that created it. Evolution has had millions of years to fight the virus. We have months.

[lilac island]

So a thereotical battle would be making a human Xerox machine hooked up to the biocom and spamming clones till they find a cure? Does nam v affect electronics?

[eternal talon]

(also, the virus can survive on its own for just over a month. so that'd be one hell of an extended bombing)

[lilac island]

A month long pounding should've ought to do it then

[eternal talon]

nam-v doesn't, no. it only infects fauna.
there is no possible cure. Every individual infection is vastly different. it mutates itself to hard-counter its hosts, thus creating a near infinite number of strains.

Each infected parasite carries it's own mutation of the virus, which means that any host with multiple parasites will allow the mutated viruses to gene shuffle and create new strains. Many of the new strains lead to mutations of the host to varying degrees, resulting in the physical deformities we see in some hosts.

[lilac island]

Why couldn't they think off effing off to space and using machines to do their Dilly dallying,like reverse mars,rover stuff, they could have invested in robotics and all

[lilac island]

So technically there exists a strain that helps human have control over the virus?

[eternal talon]

damn wiki, removing logs and shuffling them across the different pages. i can't find this r7e1 log in the r7 section, so here is a pic of it in-game

[eternal talon]

I don't get what you mean

[lilac island]

Why couldn't thr warden make robots? Isn't he some uber-demi-super-nerd?

[eternal talon]

oh no, the zone was properly quarantined once the artifacts were secured. the two employees just... didn't follow the quarantine. no PPE, nothing.

[eternal talon]

there are robots. tons of them, scattered about garganta.

[lilac island]

There should exist a mutagen that does not hurt fauna but makes them better

[lilac island]

Must be republicans

[eternal talon]

as far as we know, the only thing that it improves in such a way are hosts that are infected with the parasite, making both the host and the parasite no longer age, no longer require food, water, etc.

the virus is described by dauda as a bioweapon.

[lilac island]

How do the creatures distinguish between a human and their fellow kin, what if those prisoners wore a sleeper "meat suit"

[eternal talon]

unknown. they aren't hostile to the destination variants, and they have been seperated from the garganta variants for literally 5.5 billion years.

[lilac island]

What's their mode of sustenance then?

[eternal talon]

none. it breaks science.

there are several things handwaived like that in the lore.

[lilac island]

LoL

Maybe their bodies are just like those mini biosystems in glass bottles

That live upto decades

[eternal talon]

like @rocky wraith can vouch for how the growth speed of the neonate in r7d1 is physically impossible

(irl biologist)

[lilac island]

?

[eternal talon]

their bodies are filled to bursting with parasite eggs

[eternal talon]

like i said, unknown.

actually, 1 sec

[lilac island]

I mean a terrarium, their bodies are like a terrarium that uses its existing resources to grow, they don't need an anus because they don't need to excrete as all the waste is recycled with 100% efficiency is my theory.

That's why their butts are sealed shut

[eternal talon]

At first, when the creatures heard it, they tore it apart. As they ripped into it, it kept talking; trying to speak. It had no fear. Now the creatures don’t see it anymore, it walks through them like a ghost.

It was standing in the middle of a mass of creatures, and they weren't attacking it. The creatures knew it was there, but... pheromones? Temperature? Some kind of... social or behavioral characteristic? I don't know. Then a quad of mercenaries came through a security door and before the creatures attacked them, this human - clone; I think - reached a hand out to them. Then the creatures attacked the mercenaries, and by the time the chaos was over, the clone was dead and so were two of the mercenaries.

this is literally all we've got.

[lilac island]

And they don't have peepee

[eternal talon]

that theory completely falls apart when they move or take any phyiscal action that would expend energy. perpetual motion machines are a myth.

not to mention they read on thermals, so are constantly expending heat

[loud urchin]

not excreting waste =/= not expending or intaking any energy

[lilac island]

Maybe they eat a bite when they need to move

[regal olive]

well you're not a fusion reactor so yes not expending energy

[eternal talon]

the floaters on destination were flying around with no food for billions of years after nam-v killed or infected everything left living on the planet.

and they were still flying around when durant encountered them

he didn't find them hybernating or nothing

(to a lesser extent, there is also the 64~ million year gap between them crashing on earth in the ship, and getting their first "meal" with the ancient mayans)

[lilac island]

Damn, bros just built different