#gtfo-lore
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probably but she does it on her own so
wtf was this convo
the birthing or the getting pregnant? She does seem to make her own babies.
Actually, I wonder if there is some lore that would confirms she creates her babies on her own because as far as I've known and learned from the game, we don't truly know
she does make her own babies
Interesting
Hmm. Surely if a Mom has a mechanism to create babies, the Scout could have some kind of mechanism to get pregnant
I hope so đ
where maid pics
But we don't know that for sure, though
I'm trying to find confirmation in the lore
Soontm
I'm just interested in the lore
Keep going this is very interesting
Looks like they can get pregnant AND experience loss

how many people do we think worked at Garganta? Im guessing 5000 but realistically idk, is there a source on this anywhere?
5000 is way too low
keep in mind Garganta is the size of a city
had no idea - 10 000?
Assuming the whole complex is as wide as the rural town, 20000+ isn't the overexaggerated numbers
I mean, we haven't is the habitant, Food/Luquid Supplies, the breakrooms and the other's, only the worksite was discovered by the prisoners
@feral shoal BTW wanna play?
wdym
ah no, curently working on a video project for this game
Assuming the the workers HAVE TO lived there like some BCS shit when they have to worked on the metrorite
fair enough
btw its way more than 10k
its just for a model
Better Call Saul, S04E06, Mike Ehrmantraut talks Gustavo Fring about construction.
beg your pardon what lol
wtf
a rural town, my brother in christ, you would not be wrong if use assumed 100k+
for reference, Merida, the giant city in the picture, has 1.2 MILLION residents
garganta is like the size of 4/5 meridas
and that is just horizontally, it goes over a thousand meters down
it is --insane-- how big garganta is
yeah, it is literally like a secret underground country
đ total of 32,000 mind slaves
24k in DEEP, 8k spread about.
sry, I'm taking about "rural" town like SEA
No like, I mean something like Rural Province in Thailand lol
T /// . /// T don't publicly execute meh
How do they get clothes on prisoners? They have no downtime between operations, and by extension how do they have gigantic weapons inside the pods with them?
1st: the prisioners already had clothes before going into the HSU
2nd: i guess they have their weapons inside the HSU or the HSU has a comparment for them
Yes but how did those clothes get on? You can change clothes between missions and such so does the warden wake them up and change them?
Thats more of a gameplay thing
And not lore
Thats why lorewise You always see the 4 prisioners with the same set of clothes
Oh
Makes sense
Who made the warden? Obviously someone had to design and manufacture the warden and the prison so who do you think did it? Also why are the prisoners tweaking tf out in the menu screen but when you get into a game their level headed?
1st: Aliens known as Collectors Made the Warden
2nd: they are crazy
Man wth, I thought you were just prisoners and facing punishment, where did the aliens come into play breh. And also, its cannon that some of the prisoners wear JORTS to rundowns?
The Aliens crashed and wiped out the dinasours
Garganta was built as a mine site to get i forgot what then later discovered the Alien ship
NAM-V came from the Alien ship causing basically everything we see
Yes
It's cannon lol
WOOOOOO
Of aliens are running the show why send prisoners down to collect stuff? If the material their collecting is a alien spaceship why would aliens need it?
They are not collecting Alien stuff (they send us to recover the MWP and thats it)
Besides they are all dead
They send prisioners to do various tasks in the complex to get their objectives
Which later in R8 we discover the warden wants to save humanity
Hmm interesting
Is humanity completely wiped out?
Outside of the complex, yes
As far as we know everyone is dead
NAM-V is extremely lethal
Nothing survives
well⌠akhtually
A bit of rich bastards survived in bunkers and whatnot
but they cant rly do shit
so youâre telling me⌠If i eat the rich, im not a cannibal?
Mhm
read the "for dummies" doc in the pins of this channel.
it covers pretty much everything.
also akhtually there are sleepers up there on the alt// worldline, so not really "dead"
Project rise is real
Hmm...
If Almost all secondaries and overloads are Cannon, then what the hell did we do in R8C1 secondary? 
Its supposed to restart the Ventilation
But it Just doesnt Work since fog still appears and disappears as usual
I guess its one of the hundred secondaries that exist for flavor
Same as the one in R8B3. Why the fuck does Scheaffer need the vials? Like why?
is that his food?
Its for His Hormone Therapie đłď¸ââ§ď¸
Gay Scheaffer confirmed
Explains why He piped Henrikson from the Back đ
Codes are just a hash function of a date or something
So if you reverse engineer to figure out what transformation is used you can apply that to every future date
i saw in a comment- idk if this is true- but those hormones suppress appetite
so it could be something for him to not die of hunger or maybe for other hsu personnel to survive longer missions idk
r8 secondaries and overloads are just, volatile and u can make arguments for them being canon or not
the only ones we know for sure are a2 and e2 hit the rest u can just say shure and justify it or not
yeah thats right
Wouldn't suppressing your appetite for a while just slowly kill you either way
Schaeffer should invest in cigarettes instead đ
im sure this has been asked a million times, and just redirect me to where it was said. What is da deal with R8A2 secondary
a little easter egg
there isnt any clear explanation
we actually die there
or we play as another team in Nightmare dimension
or is just Hammerstein experiments
curiosity killed the cat team
hammerstein was doing some very fucked up things to advance his understanding of the creatures and get a nobel prize or something
he ended up dying horribly
this seems to be just one of those experiments
which one was the log where an employee is trying to write a speech and ends up ranting about hammersten for a line or two and is extremely happy that he died in horrible agony being torn apart by the monsters
hammerstein in alts and og is very funky wunky but yeh a2 is just like an omega "what if hammerstein got all the power he wanted"
I think its just a peek at a certain team in a certain timeline.. so not alt or original... like nightmare right
Like how it says on the pinned image
It was already confirmed by devs that its Just a "What If" If our Team Made a wrong Turn and is Not related to cannon
we just very completionist :[
well theres infinite timelines
but we teleport there
so what sense would it make that we are just suddenly other people
yea well maybe the teleport is just a fake out and we continue with the main
that seems weird to have after every other tp has just been, the characters teleporting
Theoretically. By that logic. Modded rundowns are also potentially canon
We are still in the secondary room, doing fent folds
i mean yes
if it doesnt somehow conflict with the story i suppose
imagine r8a2 without teleport .. most of the end wave monsters frozen to a ladder somewhere while ppl extract.. đ
lol where do i post a lore video
here media reviews idk
can i post a video link here lol
bet
5 seconds in, wasn't an asteroid
smooth animations so far though
2:00 a quarantine was placed, two scientists just ignored it because they were lazy.
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Although there was no reason to suspect any biological or viral threat in quadrant 18, the SMC Operations Manual clearly states that any âunexpected volumesâ or âuncharted regionsâ are to be evaluated under Hazard Level 3 Quarantine restrictions (yellow tag). Namely:
During the incident detailed in report #G06-A3-181, no such measures were taken.
2 researchers from the team reported minor flu-like symptoms in the weeks following the incident.
4:50 keep in mind, it also escaped into the atlantic and reached as far as the UK via ocean currents, so it wasn't soley the one escapee responsible
(this was due to santonian relaxation camps on the coast, made to relieve stress for the workers)
have mercy
the parasite's origins are technically unknown... true... but they both came from the ship
the parasite being the "main form of transmission" for nam-v isn't really accurate when nam-v infects through literally fucking everything except the vaccum of space where there is nothing to infect through
"without the parasite being present outside of garganta, it shouldn't be able to spread"
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Damn
"it is still unknown how the virus spreads"
i know you are telling it from the surface world's point of view here, but you have to think at least some people would notice at least one of the EVERY SINGLE methods
6:32 ah so you did mention england... but not the ocean currents or how it got there.
iirc the US and the UK were both infected pretty much simultaneously
6:44 "mortality = 100%" love to see it.
not if you are infected of course... but for its correctness
7:50 the vector for transmission is still everything
tbh i did offer up this sacrifice
just note im not doing this out of malice, but out of a love for the lore. so far i haven't seen a single perfectly accurate YT gtfo lore video... ever
the sacrifice was worth it
wait have you not ?
What
no, i made the for dummies doc that has been in the pins for years
What is the kraken?
alien
Thats it? Just an alien that creates other wildlife. Also, ||Why was it in the complex during R8E2?||
Wordline spaghetti
prolly got warped in during the R8 merge
Matter wave collapse that zone looks like the r6d1 starting terminal
The markers are the same
Interesting
Yeah I know itâs an alien ship but I didnât see the need to go off on a tangent and then explain all the collector lore
My bad maybe I shouldnât have placed it here itâs more of a story telling than an this is the lore - trying to tell it from the perspective at the time
^
Your editing style was by far the best I've ever seen in the context of a gtfo lore video
Personally I just feel it's really hard to skip a couple things and get the whole picture given how segmented the lore of this game is
A lot of it relies on itself in different places
Thatâs true, when I started the idea I wanted to try and cover an entirely science based approach before quickly realising that there wasnât enough information for that and I also was not a big fan of the idea of making a 40 minute video so I tried to compromise by making a sort of story video instead. I had debated on mentioning the crashed ship but decided not to for story telling sake and trying to push it more to the real world
personally, I would go it via a timeline sort of thing, and start vaguely trillions of years ago in the butterfly nebula, talking about the collectors, the virus, the parasite, how they were exiled from their people under unknown circumstances, the countless universes they visited and collected specimens from, before having the virus and parasite break out aboard their ship and crash into the earth in whatever worldline they happened to be traveling through, then i'd go from there.
i would also most likely discuss how they were able to do that, what the MWP is, what worldlines are, how it/they work(s), and how they were using it.
I like being extremely fucking dense. a 1+ hour long video is just about what this game demands tbh.
make one
:3
you are the only one that has the power and knowledge to do it
oh frosty, speaking of the exile thing - Scaler in his lore video brought up an interesting thing, he said that the time the collectors were apparently exiled for is also the amount of time that has passed since they crashed on earth. So is it possible thet werent actuallt âexiledâ and instead more like âstrandedâ?
I'm not the one calling them exiles... the collectors themselves, through the conduit, verbatim, call themselves exiles.
I'm sure they'd know the definition of the word and not just... I don't know... stranded?
Besides, they didn't crash because any political thing as far as we know, -- the virus and the parasite just happened to break out of the collection and infected the crew, leaving the ship to drift.
On that note though, it wouldn't surprise me, and would be quite nice actually, if at some point 10cc discuss or make it known how that whole debacle went down on the vessel
Maybe in DoW given the multiverse they(10cc) have created?
Silk song when?
game end yourself, now
not quite...
65,481,256 years in exile.
isnt the asteroid about 65 million years ago?
huh
yeahhh
they crashed
and their buddies said "skill issue guys, go fuck yourselves"
only after not hearing from them for 500 thousand years
that too
yeah, they probably dead
but i guess space travel is slow
i mean yeahhhhh relativity and all that...
except MATTER WAVE PROJECTOR
lol
lets just say it doesnt actually move you, it just moves the universe around you
then everything *might * make sense
did you forget about the destination sand, plants, and crystals in garganta in r8?
eeeeeeeeee
when destination is in the butterfly nebula 3k light years away
i mean i guess the sand is from a diffrent destination?
are you implying in that worldline destination is where earth is and earth doesn't exist?
then how were there coords in the mwp for it to corrupt?
why cant no one make a coherent dimension travel system
that doesnt have you dabble in quantum physics
FUCK IT, give me quantum physics but atleast have them make sense!
makes me wonder if the time dilation inherent to destination is due to the worldline specifically, or destination's proximity to the central cluster of the BN
well i mean they are game devs, not physicists
thats it
looks at outer wilds
well they could be both
mobius digital are fucking gods though
real
(its on sale 40% off rn to anyone reading this in chat, get it fr!)
dont want to.
play echoes of the eye!
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echoes is ngl my favorite horror experience
it is truly amazing, ties up the entire game in a neat bow
like ever
prisoner as a gtfo prisoner?
gtfo released into early access in 2019... covid went global in 2020.... covid GTFO marketing scheme
lol
i do have to wonder - did the writers come up with nam-v before the pandemic or did they do it mid pandemic and instantly threw it into the lore
like... surely they had an idea for the virus before covid
cause gtfo released in early access in what month?
way back then we were still theorizing about space spores that were locked away in the meteor for millions of years.
the covid shenanigans began in like december
we didnt even really know anything about infectivity
or hell, anything much really.
i mean hey, that wasnt that far off
i think space spore was like the thing behind a bunch of zombie movies
not really a direct connection to sleepers in that.
yeah
didnt the backrooms have something to do with spores too?
its overall a decently popular concept
i have no idea, i don't follow the backrooms/liminal space trend at all
same, i saw something like that ages ago
so i may be very much wrong
deadass fit the pfp character

lore is back
"Lore is back"
lore was back
Interesting
The Lore of the lore
could i get a short answer for if they are zombies?
no they are not zombies
they are sleepers
a combination of NAM-V and a parasite
eviscerate them please
Not zombies
More like
Interdimensional creatures
Made from an interdimensional virus
no
honestly dont see the difference. but also honestly just messing with ya
:3
wow
how could you do that
</3
i would never do something like that
cap
Dont mess in lore chat
Or You Will have an essay
i dont know who youre talking to but im not frostty
okay CUNTs
k
SHUT UP
Calling a Symbiotic alien parasite/virus abomination a Zombie is wild.
Zombies are per definition, the dead, Risen again or reanimated. Sleepers are not. This is one of the core reasons they are so terrifying.
Some variants destroy or heavy damage your brain... but not all do... it is entirely possible for you to be conscious and aware as the parasite puppets, mutates, and contorts your body. Snapping bones and tearing muscle as it mutates.
-- and given NAM-V's symbiosis with the parasite and the parasite's host, you won't die either. If not killed from physical trauma, you will stay that way forever. Think about the floaters on destination. They have been infected for billions of years.
If you are turned into a sleeper, death would be the greatest mercy. Why do you think sleepers don't kill us in game, but only "down" us? It is so we can be infected later and turned into a part of the hive.
If you die to a swarm of zombies, that bullet that puts down your rotting corpse would mean nothing to you. If you were infected by parasitidae garganta and NAM-V, you'd be begging for that bullet... if you still had control over your voice, that is.
@fresh gyro is that good?
For a medical answer: sleepers are fauna infected and puppeted by parssitidae garganta, often in symbiosis with the nam-v virus.
also I've been at work all day, that is why I have been exceptionally late to reply to this posting
(also yes, this is TOTALLY a short answer. You should see my other reply chains)
ssh.. zombies
theyre like clickers from last of us
they even got the clicking part
THATS A FUNGUS
except that part of course
no
yes
i don't know ur voice but that had such a clear voice in my head
i could hear that perfectly
tyty
i wonder how sleepers can even function
all their vital organs are replaced with eggs
it's just a shell of muscle ontop of eggs
Flesh automatons animated by Neurotransmitters
the funny part is. clickers aren't undead.
lmao
Lore is temporarily canceled, out camping with no signal.
if you had no signal, how exactly did you post this?
Blame the worldline shenanigans
One bar, and it intermittently goes out completely.
rip
Slow as fuck to post or even scroll reddit
reddit...
lmao
bro is tracking patient zero out in florida
Oregon, pacific northwest
12 miles, 11 hundred feet of elevation gain.
how close are u
are u on like gravity falls yet
real?
opposite side of Portland.
Tillamook state forest
:O
omg grass
touch
I am home now though, I was gone friday-sunday.
Friday night was a very dark and painful slog.
Impossible
damn nature is out here thriving even with namv
on an unrelated note, a trip to the yucatan would be FIRE.
But it is, you are searching for more ARG elements
Whoever you are, do NOT move. You have entered a restricted zone. There are traps everywhere. If you move...
frosty did e2 irl...
no i didnt
Don't lie

is there like an order on the expeditions in rundown 6
They are in order

well the yellow expeditions seem story related
so r6ax is after r6a1?
Im pretty sure the X levels are it's own thing
Cause they were added after the rundown release
Yeah the X levels are from the extension
But plenty of rundowns had an extension
R4 A3 B3 C3 E1 were extension levels, r5 had an extension
It doesn't really matter much
how come r6 has white levels in the middle (so not important to story?)
They are just more content
@olive shadow Here's da lore
I think the difference is that the yellow ones are where Plot Happens, while in White ones we are Just setting everything Up so that the further story Missions Could Take place
At First i thought that yellow ones are Just Missions with voice acting, since og R6 did have voice acting that was moved into Terminal logs with ALT://R6
But R7C3 is a White Mission even though Henriksson keeps talking to us
ooooo
@olive shadow #gtfo-lore message Here Something to read before you Go to sleep
The Chart is wrong tho, ignore it
Is it tho
There is No Nightmare Squad and OG Team was Not in B2
Oh yeah B2 lol
Also how do You know there is no Nightmare squad 
We dont know of they exist or they didnt
It was confirmed by devs 
Damn
Breh
It would have been more cooler if they did something different
But oh well
The writing in this Game is already an interesting shit show here and there
We need the Secret Secret ending where we fight that Giant Biomass that was inside of the collectors ship
The E1 roar would be so much cooler If it was tied to it
They missed the perfect oportunity to throw a giant ass monster in the end of E1
A unique monster
Combine 3 Tanks into the Patriarch 
Didnt a modded rundown had a massive flying meatball?
They could have done something like that
Man
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fuck you 10 chambers
you make a game with extremely confusing writing atleast let us have some fun with it
and dont confirm/deny the one fucking thing that isnt really important
We need to go deeper
omnomonomnomonom
what a wiley bunch of guys. I love it here.
unconfirmed by me
can we get spin off games about the four characters?
please.
I wanna know what happened to these poor souls
Bishop and Dauda for Smash Bros
lmao
gtfo 2 when...
they touched grass. the end
imagine splinter cell esc mission of bishop installing spyware
or a final stand as woods.
or dauda trying to escape the clutches of an evil mega corp only to get black bagged in a welcom to the game esque sequence
release it as 60$ dlc for the game as a single player campaigne experience for the players so they can understand the idiosynchresies of the characters
id say Bishop would make more sense for that
but yeah itâd be cool to see more of them
I will forever believe in GTFO 2, whatever and whenever it may be
I got a little further into the lore and for dauda it seems more like a cult and new member relationship. he'd get to directly witness the horrors of the drilling operations and how everyones morale would change as the story develops
I mean
he was responsible for some of the horryfing things in garganta
cough cough, human experiments
haven't got there yet but that's wild.
Overall, none of the characters are exactly⌠morall
you could make an argument for bishop
but even then theres no telling what kinda shit he did to survive the civil war
and tbh i kinda like it
oh you dont know a lotttt
yeah that too
well when the game takes place there isnt one anymore but⌠i wont spoil
divided we stand
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Lmao
bro no.. don't
wait anyone remember what sorta hole Bishop got sent to?
i forgot the countries name
brazil???
no
lmao
i dont think so atleast
new spoilers
that saying⌠the ending does remind me of the amazon
u got something ordered or
frog you slendi.
frog. you.
the worst part is i fully expected someone to make that joke and i still hate it
yes
:3
this game is crazy. I love it
yes it is
Does anyone remember which log talks about patient zero?
Actually I'm not interested in the log itself. But I'm trying to remember the dates of the events of the game
ALT Rundown 5
Log: 7JR-T7U-780
On June 12th, 2057, Aaron broadcasts a message indicating that the expedition had found "patient zero" â a 33 year old male employee of Santonian Mining Company and member of Project Insight. Patient Zero had fled Garganta on 28th December, 2052 and "made it as far as Florida," the location of the first cluster in January, 2053
I copied that from the wiki long ago it's the short version
Here is the full thing if someone needs it:
This is Matthew Aaron, operations lead for the Daylight Mission. It's... June 12th, 2057. We've found him. Patient Zero. We've got him! Or a record of him, at least. NAM-V originated here, and now we have the proof. He was an employee of the Santonian Mining Company, he was 33 at the time he contracted the virus. He fled Garganta on... shit where is it... on 28th December 2052. Santonian were tracking him, well, Kovac were, and they believe he may have made it as far as Florida, which is where the CDC issued its first alert on January 11th 2053. This has to be him! It has to be. And they knew it all along! My god. They knew it all along. We found an internal email saying as much. Santonian knew about the virus and said nothing. Then they let it escape. It's not clear how the patient caught the virus. We don't have the medical records yet. He was working on something called Project Insight. We're still working on getting into that database. The network segmentation limits access to particular terminals. I think we're going to have to bite the bullet and go deeper into the facility. We've only made it down about 300 meters and... well none of us want to go any deeper. The mind plays tricks on you down there. I'm sure there's no one left alive here but I keep hearing things. The echoing and reverb is so distorted it's easy to get paranoid. You think someone is following you only to turn around and realize it's your own footsteps. Listen. Hello! Yeah. Matthew Aaron out.
Wall of Text jumpecare
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is this the level with the generators
The excel spreadsheet log?
the log with all the duplicate names of like idk the hsu clones
000-000-000 yeah lol
Do we know what a neural frame is and why we devote so much effort to sticking a baby in it?
@eternal talon
its like a house frame but you put the neural pathways in it
N frame is Just a Processing Tool that is able to inject/extract Data from the dataspheres.
Neonate was modded by warden to fit into the N frame to extract certain Data that Warden needs. What Kind of Data? Idk. But looking at how the Main Goal of Warden till R6 was to enable the Project Rise, i Could speculate that its somehow related to it
R3 was kinda about studying birthers, so maybe Warden did some studies on how to improve the Clones for them to Not die Off imedietly
Could also be the opposite and it was infected with some Sort of Data to create the conduit Shaeffer was talking to
We only dont know If it was left there or Warden sent another Team to Pick it Back Up or If it is still sitting there
no idea.
are there like duplicate logs..? i just found a new log that wasnt tracked on my tracker but remember reading it
Ye
Yes, quite a few. https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Log_Comparisons
well those seem to be the same as the logs from older rundowns
Do you mean the same log in the same rundown? There's a few duplicate logs across rundowns -- or minor variations/changes.
iirc r6 or r7 (don't remember which) also had a couple of the same logs in different levels.
r7e1 even had the same log in two zones, didn't it? in the first customprefab and in the pablo zone? the dauda experimentation one?
i forgot
lore uh hackett kisses well
HUH
I can confirm this
Dauda can confirm it aswell
wait wasnt bishop the one thats canonically gay
Haaa
Isnt that based on Hacketts voiceline?
Yeah
he calls bishop gay
truly peak lore
You are gay. Now you are also canonically gay
cant wait for DoW where the characters are just gonna call every enemy âgayâ or say they have a âskill issueâ
You are in the Den...of Skibidi
Is there greater lore on Kovac and Santonian?
All I really know is Kovac is a security company and Santonian is the Umbrella Corporation/Weyland-Yutani of GTFO
read the "for dummies" doc in the pins.
Ty
it will always be the answer for everything.
(and if its not, i'd be happy to further explain)
Alright, am I gonna spoil myself on what made the big hole we go down if I read this? Someone told me we naturally figure out what that was and I want to naturally figure that out.
well have a look at the top of your screen... adding this channel in the first place is a big spoiler -- thats why its not enabled by default.
Someone pinged me down here ages ago about something and I just have it now lmao
Same as the actual spoiler chat, I normally avoid both
So, don't read the doc yet, gotcha
the doc was made to cover everything. from the collectors trillions of years ago, to the events surrounding the apocalypse a decade before the game begins, to during the game.
it has been a universal quick-reference guide for over a year. Mostly just because reading one .txt is a million times faster than going through 248+ logs.
And I assume it isn't like, bullet pointed for specific little things such as Kovac/Santonian
I'll read it whenever I finish the game then, in like another 400 hours
no, it goes date by date, in chronological order, talking about the stuff that is going on
sort of like a timeline
Gotcha, I'm still in the lore light part of GTFO from what I can tell
but it also has segments discussing other lore not directly related to the order of events
yeah... gtfo lore is insanely convoluted. basically impossible to learn without community resources...
It can't be worse then like
not to mention the fact that many of the logs have just been entirely removed from the game
MGS
and several are in ARG style codes that took hundreds of people weeks to solve
that none of that is to mention the out-of-game logs and ambassador emails, which you cant really go back-in-time to sign up for now that game dev has ended.
the lore has been a really slow burn over the past half decade.
at this point, its the community here and our resources... or... gtfo
So, as a more nebulous question is it good lore?
Or do we like it cause we like GTFO?
personally, i'd give it like a 7/10. originally the first five rundowns didnt have much, then ogr6 exploded with tons of new lore
then r7 continued with that, then the alt// rundowns came out and threw a wrench in the works, but otherwise slowed it down again
and r8 went back to super dense.
Yeah I'm on R4 rn, I jumped to R7 to do an A level real quick and some crazy man started using the PA system to talk to me
Which was new
R1-4 have seemed really light on lore compared to whatever that was
I should mention! rundown 7 is the only rundown left in the game from the original universe
the alt// ones are different, in some (like alt//r6), in significant ways.
gameplay is mostly the same across the board, but lore is very diff.
I always found that to be a neat way of explaining balance changes tbh
unless you mod, you won't be able to play those original rundowns either.
just the alt// variants.
I heard that one universes crazy dude isn't actually that bad and one of em is just totally and completely unhinged
so chronoligically you should start at r7, then all of alt//, then r8
I intend on it at some point tbh, wanna try 5 shot BC
since og r1-r6 is unplayable and their logs either rewritten, or in the case of r6-in-level-dialogue from schaeffer, completely removed.
tbh i think only an insane person would play R7, alts and then R8
in the original worldline schaeffer was a maniac.
alt// schaeffer was much calmer and collected.
r8 is simply explained as " a fuckton of universes/worldlines merging into one
that is why there are multiple schaeffers in r8, etc.
Atleast if we are talking of a new player, maybe if its someone who played OGs
hence why i specified chronologically
yeh
Nah guys I'm about to go complete R7 then go back to R4 for the true GTFO lore experience
I was about to ask wtf do you mean theres multiple and then it hit me alt and og are infact multiple
did you not complete r8 yet?
L o r e i s r e a l
GTFO is a complicated game, huh?
I'll enjoy the lore aspect later tho
I like games with stories that aren't immediately apparent
||you literally drown both schaeffers in the same room and find their corpses when you go down there||
i did im just re*arded and didnt realise ALT and OG are 2
VERY
My brain thought there were more for a sec when i read your message
hahahahhahahaahhahahahahah
Me when multiverse + aliens + god knows what
i've been here for longer than pretty much anybody in the lore channel at this point, and i've seen basically all of the highs-and-lows.
many-a-clusterfuck
I will say I like the cosmic horror angle I've gathered from it so far
It's quite ambitious imo
It is cool
.... yeah that fits...
Overall if you ignore the way the story is conveyed ingame (and some of its weirder parts) you get a pretty cool storyline
thats basically the entire schtick with the collectors
It's one of my favorite brands of horror but it's really hard to pull off well
one of the biggest breaks is trying to understand and comprehend worldline theory.
infinite infinities of universes
of which, we visit like 12
the collectors kinda remind me of the aliens in Lovecrafts âMountains of madnessâ (i think that was the title, its the arctic one)
our earth
alt//earth
destination
r6d4 (three more earths)
nightmare dimension
... i feel like i am forgetting a couple...
durants destination
as in ALTs
ah, yeah! jungle world
"Nightmare dimension" you mean that isn't the one we're in rn in game?
and we do indeed visit that one.
lol
R8 holds worse
nah
its one of the ones we visit in r8
wait wouldnt R8B2 count as several too?
every worldline we have been to (aside from jungle planet) have had the infection and sleepers.
with whatever the fuck goes on there
i do not remember.
Alright I'm done being here before I ultra spoil myself for something
and crystals growing
BISHOP IS GAY
sand is from destination though, no?
yeah but like the fact the earth level changes a lot
and then reverts at the end
DaudaXBishop confirmed
it was always meant to be
when you've got teammates like that...
bishop was gay before it was popular
surprising it wasnt more obvious
you are playing with so much fire
like it basically has fucking time travel
i know
luckily i can always flee to the DoW discord
theyll never find me there
I hope I enjoy DoW half as much as I've enjoyed GTFO so far
personally i'm not too interested in it. only really interested in any possible connections to the worldlines
given the way they've written it... even IRL is a worldline
(the irl where we play gtfo within the gtfo universe)
Lore aside I just hope the moment to moment gameplay and tension is as well done if not better since they've got more experience now
every possible world, every variant big bang, every change regardless how small splits into two outcome worldlines.
every grain of sand that became glass instead, is another set of worldlines created
So to beat GTFO you commit an Owlman and nuke the multiverse?
just wait until you meet snatchers.
(not spoilers, this was 10cc's official teaser image)
Not my kink but go off
VORE
eh... not really
it gets into the nam-v virus and all that.
we were trying to escape.
cant really say much more without spoiling you.
Gotcha
I have one more stupid question if you do not mind
Does the name Nam-V mean anything special or is it just "Nam-V"
Is it V or 5?
** What are Sleepers?
Sleepers are the final product of a NAM-V - Parasite infestation. NAM-V is extremely infectious and has a lethality rate of 100%.
Sleepers are created by the Parasite with NAM-V present. The Parasite was originally a victim of NAM-V and over time they have formed a Symbiotic relationship, with the Virus keeping the Parasite alive and active for undefined lengths of time, perhaps forever.
This allows NAM-V to maintain its hyper lethality without burning itself out of food or fuel to continue spreading, often hibernating for tens of thousands if not millions of years between outbreaks.
NAM-V also has a multipronged attack strategy, making it incredibly difficult to fight against and lending credence to the idea that it is not natural in origin and was some form of creation or bioweapon.
What are Giants? Hybrids?
Specialized variants of Sleepers are created by the Parasite to fill a niche in its hive. A great example of this would be the Scout, designed to keep watch while other Sleepers hibernate to keep a hive from being exterminated.
Another example would be the giant, created by an infected host that has a large quantity of muscle mass, this infected individual was mutated into a role more fitting by its genetic code and purpose the Parasite needed to support the hive.
It is this reason that nearly all Shooter variants appear to be female in origin, and nearly all Strikers being male.
Chargers appear to grow large nests with biomass (usually on ceilings), and are highly aggressive brutes, most likely derivative of big strikers, though they have their own big striker variant.
**
from the "for dummies" doc.
and it is "v" yes, not five.
I appreciate you
nam-5 sounds stupid ngl
Doesn't sound anymore or less stupid then Nam-V imo
rip no more frosty lore dump in DoW
nam-v is like, god mode infectivity. it can survive for months on surfaces, and can transmit through literally any vector except for the vaccum of space where there is literally nothing to transmit through. if you catch it, it is a 100% death sentince too.
with no cure. it has countably infinite variants.
ehhh nam-v is better in my opinion
it will mutate to hard counter you
super covid
d e a t h
like 11 higher r-naught than covid
(i dont remember the actual number)
still not enough r-naught to kill the fucking mayans
they were true fucking gigachads.
biggest chads in gtfo
somehow tanked and even won against a planet destroyer.
(because the world didnt go extinct back then)
they were just better
they did what neither the modern 2060s humans, OR THE COLLECTORS could
and the collectors make us look like specs of dust
spears and bows be pog.
i mean tbf the mayan plothole only exists cause it would appear that both nam-v and the parasite got out
All that 10cc had to do was have only 1 of them show up
because "flea demons" and parasitidae is a type of flea/mite.
actually⌠is it possible mayans only fought the parasite?
like doesnt the parasite also mutate its host without nam-v, albeit into a much weaker form?
then perhaps we are overthinking it
and there is no plothole
there are no holes on the plot, just holes in your understanding
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Their research has not been limited to the Yucatan. In their quest for answers they have sought archeological societies as far north as the Texas Independence and as far south as Honduras. The answers they were seeking turned up at the Lamanai Archaeological Project in Belize. The team uncovered ancient Mayan records of several earthquakes in the region, with the most recent one being in the mid 13th century.
Researchers at the Lamanai project studied scores of tablet inscriptions from their extensive library and discovered reference to a series of catastrophic population declines that occurred in the Yucatan between 800 and 1300 CE. Until the Merida quake, these population fluctuations were assumed to be related to the frequent outbreaks of disease in the region.
Now, with the context of the newly discovered fault line it seems like the ancient Mayan scribes were giving us more information than we knew. While disease is still almost certainly the reason for the massive drop in Mayan population during the 9th century, the cause of the disease is now much clearer. Earthquakes.
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Oh hey
covid reference
didnt know thats a real thing
also frosty pls chill
no more text walls
thats literally all i do tho
uhhhh rebrand
Well either way
id say its possible the mayans got hit with parasites
and not the virus
ez plothole fix
just 50 more to go
scheaffer isnt real
he is a psyop
actually
yknow what?
YKNOW WHAT
new theory time
a NEW theory???
this late in the game??
lets hear it.
The entire game is a psyop. A simulation of sorts. There is no end of humanity. We have been lied to by everyone. The warden is an FBI/CIA agent and the entire point of the game is to find a god squad. A squad that wont lose its mind without wardens babysitting, a squad that wont die. Scheaffer was never trying to escape. He was an american agent all the time testing us! The ALT squad isnt a version of the main squad its just a random ass squad made to look like us with⌠fucking ai! THE WHOLE GAME IS A GIANT LIE
ah, an it was all a dream theory
Not rly a dream
more like
the entire game is a tutorial theory
A carefully prepared obstacle course to find the best squad possible
a theory so perfect... i cant even use logs to disprove it because those logs could be a part of the simulation.
EXACTLY
THE LOGS WERE PLACED THERE TO DECEIVE US
after all these years i believe we have cracked it
GTFO holds no more secrets
the ultimate real plot that 10cc crafted so well only a fucking insane and tired person could come up with it
aka every swedish writer
and also me apparently
alt// reality time:
during the events involving deciphering the coords, they pointed to two locations. the butterfly nebula...
and here, on earth, in the middle of the atlantic. if the coords were not pointing to space and you were a developer, what would you have placed here?
hm?
the GOC base, final stronghold of humanity
i think it was a super secret military base on the atlantic
from scp 5000?
the dream theory
Whats with the eggs in the sleepers, are they parasite eggs
What does the parasite look like
probably
we have a few vague descriptions⌠and i dont remember any of them
I think it was like a worm?
ITS IN THE NAME
PARASITIDAE
it's a family of mites here on earth.
They are small multi-legged bugs.
Google images is your friend.
yeah no im not googling that
id rather save my sanity
it's mostly images of the movie u baby
no?
oh idk then
Big win for GTFO players all over the globe âŹď¸
what hole
the hole in my heart
you dont have a heart
if this was meant to be a serious question...
long answer: have a read of the "for dummies" doc in the pins of this channel.
short answer: an alien spaceship.
why is there a conveniently placed elevator for convicts at the top of this hole that was nuked into the complex
also are there multiple holes each with a drop system
long answer: have a read of the "for dummies" doc in the pins of this channel.
short answer: the alien spaceship sent out lazers to destroy things. after that, it was just easier using said holes the lazers made for infrastructure rather than digging new ones ourselves. 2 thousand meters is a looooong way down.
wait isn't the spaceship 4000 meters down
( i am not going to read the for dummies doc )
fish reacted for not reading it
hey Slendo
-- and the beams reached all the way to the surface. they would have kept going, too, except they were somehow programmed to stop just before they breached the surface and/or the sea floor.
hello :]
i know you've used steganography to insert f-35c instructions into the file so i get raided by the FBI
you think this is my first rodeo
theres worse things than F-35 insturctions in the document
see for yourself
:)
also yes the spaceship was deep underground but we never go past 1300~ meters in the base game anyways
i think the deepest levels is r7e1 with 1400 or so
no
the sleepers actively go down
theres sleepers we never see below
then you'd have alien sleepers
from the collection the collectors had archived in their ship.
how do you know they're alive
the floaters on destination have been flying around without food for 7 trillion years.
yeah i mean through injury
you think someone hammer thousand of sleepers down there?
NAM-V & Paraisitidae Garganta are just super OP.
the sleepers down there would most likely either be:
i think the collision with the earth qualifies as injury
if my sledgehammer can do what it does
a; collectors
b; ancient mayans
c; species from the collection that got infected and killed the collectors when their ship crashed.
extiction level impact probably would
but those sleepers arent the same we encounter

eeh
anything that isn't a microorganism probably experienced 1 jillion g force and got turned into ramen
i don't think anything baby sized or above would have survived that impact
microorganisms sure
since well, the events of gtfo happened
as far as we know, the overwhelming majority of the ship is still intact.
hammerstein and others from Insight made full on expeditions into the ship to recover specimens
including all of the artifacts, least of all, the MWP
both
i am uninstalling this videogame
he describes entire corridors and such.
would be cool if he took pictures
the ship is not dust. it may not be very structurally sound anymore, but it is still there.
alas, logs rarely even have voice acting.
and we never get to go there in-game sadly.
cretasum-77a, yes.
but biological things surviving that deceleration
like i said, the virus and the parasite are op op
and the things they infect (sleepers) are also op.
yeah but sleepers aren't the virus and parasite
they are
the fuck you mean
the fuck you mean
sleepers are the virus and the parasite both infecting a host.
when you get cancer, do you become cancer
sleepers are not the virus
fuck you talkin bout
they are the virus and the parasite
if just parasites infect a host, you'd get something like the husks in barotrauma.
if just the virus, 100% certain death.
if both, immortality and incredible resilience.
in a host
they are infected by the virus and the parasite
they are not the virus or the parasite
im going to game end myself
can we do it together
sure
yay
i love barotrauma
they heavily mutate infected hosts. the virus a ton, as seen here:
and the parasite even more so
yeah i mean that sleepers are a seperate category of thing
by the way in r8, we don't go in hydrostasis right
sleepers are really just parasites with nam-v controlling and mutating a host.
no, we teleport to a "clean" worldline, thus infecting it, and dying a lonely and painful death weeks later after dooming the only clean worldline ever encountered.
in the first couple missions we do
after D1-C2 we dont
i mean that we stop getting orders from the warden and then anyone, so we don't go into hydrostasis
correct.
but at the start of levels we still wake up in hydrostasis and drop
we are on our own post-removal of our chips.
gameplay schmameplay.
the drop down sequence is a glorified loading screen that realistically can't be edited on a per-level basis
not even in modding.
its either as-is, or wholly replaced.
aha
(believe me, i would have removed it for PT. doesn't fit the story)
so sorry i wasn't paying attention, are there multiple holes
yes
okay interesting
the game has a lot of plot holes. least of all being the schaeffer discrepancy.
what if
w h at about the h o l e s though
schaeffer was a collector all this time
scheaffer is the warden
M A D E B Y T H E L A Z E R S
the warden is an alien.
a r e m u l t i p l e H S U e l e v a t o r s i n o p e r a t i o n
Y E S
O K A A Y
T H E R E A R E 3 2 0 0 0 K S O S
D O Y O U U N D E R S T A N
I TH I NK
W E A R E O N L Y F O U R O F T H E M
i think it's crazy how fucking efficient our group is
I'm gonna lose it what is going on here
we are a perfect squad
the best of the best
across the multiverse, we are literally, as pable said, the perfect squad.
we always first try everything.
wait truly?
yes.
at least OG team is
Well if you don't first try it don't you just die
ALT team who knows
fuck them
i know we first try things lore wise but how do we know this is something special out of millions
how do we know "what" is special out of millions?
(so i can give a proper answer)
you said our squad is perfect across the multiverse
yes.
how do you know that
kovac, more specifically, insight, were in contact with a fuckton of alternate earths. the excell spreadsheet is... extensive, to say the least. pable can post it while i am typing
as they were communicating, kovac was working on replacing the legion project with what you likely know as the failed RISE project. well, in one of their logs, they discuss their search for the perfect squad, that being us...
Im in the toilet right now
one sec, i'll link it...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16oVY__ZK6RrR3nVQlqmOBgwZxADNjtwHNgweUOHKty0/edit?usp=sharing
the log make take a couple minutes to load on your device.
it is several thousand lines long
What does it contain
membrane ids (worldline identifiers for different worldlines)
the names of employees
their local employee ids
their hsu locations
and their local status


