#gtfo-lore

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thick ridge
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How do we know? Is there a log for this

raw terrace
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more so cause they don't seem to have anything

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like

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down there

thick ridge
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Oh, I see

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Does the mom have anything
...down there?

raw terrace
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probably but she does it on her own so

royal crow
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wtf was this convo

thick ridge
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Actually, I wonder if there is some lore that would confirms she creates her babies on her own because as far as I've known and learned from the game, we don't truly know

thick ridge
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Interesting

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Hmm. Surely if a Mom has a mechanism to create babies, the Scout could have some kind of mechanism to get pregnant

royal crow
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uuuuuuuuh

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no?

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i dont think the scout does

next panther
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I hope so 😈

royal crow
thick ridge
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I'm trying to find confirmation in the lore

royal crow
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why would you want to do that

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like

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search for this and know

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why

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just why

next panther
thick ridge
opaque crown
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Keep going this is very interesting

royal crow
thick ridge
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Looks like they can get pregnant AND experience loss

toxic wagon
feral shoal
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how many people do we think worked at Garganta? Im guessing 5000 but realistically idk, is there a source on this anywhere?

royal crow
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keep in mind Garganta is the size of a city

feral shoal
tender berry
feral shoal
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okay cool

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i had no idea it was so lorge

tender berry
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I mean, we haven't is the habitant, Food/Luquid Supplies, the breakrooms and the other's, only the worksite was discovered by the prisoners

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@feral shoal BTW wanna play?

feral shoal
tender berry
# royal crow wdym

Assuming the the workers HAVE TO lived there like some BCS shit when they have to worked on the metrorite

feral shoal
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fair enough

royal crow
feral shoal
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its just for a model

feral shoal
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beg your pardon what lol

royal crow
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so

feral shoal
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wtf

eternal talon
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for reference, Merida, the giant city in the picture, has 1.2 MILLION residents

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garganta is like the size of 4/5 meridas

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and that is just horizontally, it goes over a thousand meters down

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it is --insane-- how big garganta is

eternal talon
eternal talon
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24k in DEEP, 8k spread about.

tender berry
royal crow
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Damn, Merida just got called rural town

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😔

tender berry
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T /// . /// T don't publicly execute meh

lilac dragon
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How do they get clothes on prisoners? They have no downtime between operations, and by extension how do they have gigantic weapons inside the pods with them?

royal crow
lilac dragon
royal crow
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And not lore

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Thats why lorewise You always see the 4 prisioners with the same set of clothes

lilac dragon
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Oh

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Makes sense

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Who made the warden? Obviously someone had to design and manufacture the warden and the prison so who do you think did it? Also why are the prisoners tweaking tf out in the menu screen but when you get into a game their level headed?

royal crow
lilac dragon
royal crow
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NAM-V came from the Alien ship causing basically everything we see

lilac dragon
lilac dragon
royal crow
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Besides they are all dead

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They send prisioners to do various tasks in the complex to get their objectives
Which later in R8 we discover the warden wants to save humanity

lilac dragon
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Hmm interesting

lilac dragon
royal crow
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Outside of the complex, yes

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As far as we know everyone is dead

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NAM-V is extremely lethal

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Nothing survives

coral gorge
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A bit of rich bastards survived in bunkers and whatnot

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but they cant rly do shit

royal crow
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They are not humans :3

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They Will die eventually anyways

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Who cares

coral gorge
royal crow
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Mhm

eternal talon
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it covers pretty much everything.

eternal talon
opaque crown
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Project rise is real

random nymph
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Hmm...

honest summit
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If Almost all secondaries and overloads are Cannon, then what the hell did we do in R8C1 secondary? think

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Its supposed to restart the Ventilation

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But it Just doesnt Work since fog still appears and disappears as usual

coral gorge
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is that his food?

honest summit
coral gorge
honest summit
warped bloom
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f

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how did ppl figure out the r8a2 sec passcodes ahead of time

loud urchin
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Codes are just a hash function of a date or something

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So if you reverse engineer to figure out what transformation is used you can apply that to every future date

raw terrace
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so it could be something for him to not die of hunger or maybe for other hsu personnel to survive longer missions idk

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r8 secondaries and overloads are just, volatile and u can make arguments for them being canon or not

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the only ones we know for sure are a2 and e2 hit the rest u can just say shure and justify it or not

raw terrace
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:D

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i didnt misinfo weeeee

tranquil sentinel
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Schaeffer should invest in cigarettes instead 👍

unborn wharf
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im sure this has been asked a million times, and just redirect me to where it was said. What is da deal with R8A2 secondary

royal crow
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there isnt any clear explanation

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we actually die there
or we play as another team in Nightmare dimension
or is just Hammerstein experiments

regal olive
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hammerstein was doing some very fucked up things to advance his understanding of the creatures and get a nobel prize or something

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he ended up dying horribly

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this seems to be just one of those experiments

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which one was the log where an employee is trying to write a speech and ends up ranting about hammersten for a line or two and is extremely happy that he died in horrible agony being torn apart by the monsters

raw terrace
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hammerstein in alts and og is very funky wunky but yeh a2 is just like an omega "what if hammerstein got all the power he wanted"

warped bloom
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I think its just a peek at a certain team in a certain timeline.. so not alt or original... like nightmare right

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Like how it says on the pinned image

honest summit
raw terrace
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we just very completionist :[

warped bloom
raw terrace
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but we teleport there

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so what sense would it make that we are just suddenly other people

warped bloom
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yea well maybe the teleport is just a fake out and we continue with the main

raw terrace
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that seems weird to have after every other tp has just been, the characters teleporting

toxic wagon
honest summit
raw terrace
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i mean yes

warped bloom
cobalt mulch
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imagine r8a2 without teleport .. most of the end wave monsters frozen to a ladder somewhere while ppl extract.. 🙂

feral shoal
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lol where do i post a lore video

fresh gyro
feral shoal
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can i post a video link here lol

fresh gyro
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uhm

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i mean

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yea?

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theres media perms

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so itl even embed

feral shoal
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bet

eternal talon
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5 seconds in, wasn't an asteroid

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smooth animations so far though

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2:00 a quarantine was placed, two scientists just ignored it because they were lazy.

royal crow
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🍿

eternal talon
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Although there was no reason to suspect any biological or viral threat in quadrant 18, the SMC Operations Manual clearly states that any “unexpected volumes” or “uncharted regions” are to be evaluated under Hazard Level 3 Quarantine restrictions (yellow tag). Namely:

During the incident detailed in report #G06-A3-181, no such measures were taken.

2 researchers from the team reported minor flu-like symptoms in the weeks following the incident.

fresh gyro
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oh god

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frostty

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torn asunder

eternal talon
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4:50 keep in mind, it also escaped into the atlantic and reached as far as the UK via ocean currents, so it wasn't soley the one escapee responsible

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(this was due to santonian relaxation camps on the coast, made to relieve stress for the workers)

fresh gyro
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have mercy

eternal talon
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the parasite's origins are technically unknown... true... but they both came from the ship

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the parasite being the "main form of transmission" for nam-v isn't really accurate when nam-v infects through literally fucking everything except the vaccum of space where there is nothing to infect through

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"without the parasite being present outside of garganta, it shouldn't be able to spread"

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

royal crow
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Damn

fresh gyro
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please

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its dead

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no more

eternal talon
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"it is still unknown how the virus spreads"
i know you are telling it from the surface world's point of view here, but you have to think at least some people would notice at least one of the EVERY SINGLE methods

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6:32 ah so you did mention england... but not the ocean currents or how it got there.
iirc the US and the UK were both infected pretty much simultaneously

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6:44 "mortality = 100%" love to see it.
not if you are infected of course... but for its correctness

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7:50 the vector for transmission is still everything

fresh gyro
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tbh i did offer up this sacrifice

eternal talon
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just note im not doing this out of malice, but out of a love for the lore. so far i haven't seen a single perfectly accurate YT gtfo lore video... ever

fresh gyro
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i know

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<3

royal crow
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Why You don't try to make one?

fresh gyro
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the sacrifice was worth it

fresh gyro
royal crow
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What

eternal talon
coral gorge
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jesus i think i just read a murder

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several even

fresh gyro
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^

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execution

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in the name of lore

crisp lance
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What is the kraken?

raw terrace
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alien

crisp lance
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Thats it? Just an alien that creates other wildlife. Also, ||Why was it in the complex during R8E2?||

coral gorge
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prolly got warped in during the R8 merge

queen gazelle
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The markers are the same

crisp lance
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Interesting

feral shoal
# eternal talon 5 seconds in, *wasn't an asteroid*

Yeah I know it’s an alien ship but I didn’t see the need to go off on a tangent and then explain all the collector lore
My bad maybe I shouldn’t have placed it here it’s more of a story telling than an this is the lore - trying to tell it from the perspective at the time

eternal talon
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Your editing style was by far the best I've ever seen in the context of a gtfo lore video

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Personally I just feel it's really hard to skip a couple things and get the whole picture given how segmented the lore of this game is

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A lot of it relies on itself in different places

feral shoal
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That’s true, when I started the idea I wanted to try and cover an entirely science based approach before quickly realising that there wasn’t enough information for that and I also was not a big fan of the idea of making a 40 minute video so I tried to compromise by making a sort of story video instead. I had debated on mentioning the crashed ship but decided not to for story telling sake and trying to push it more to the real world

eternal talon
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personally, I would go it via a timeline sort of thing, and start vaguely trillions of years ago in the butterfly nebula, talking about the collectors, the virus, the parasite, how they were exiled from their people under unknown circumstances, the countless universes they visited and collected specimens from, before having the virus and parasite break out aboard their ship and crash into the earth in whatever worldline they happened to be traveling through, then i'd go from there.

eternal talon
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I like being extremely fucking dense. a 1+ hour long video is just about what this game demands tbh.

royal crow
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:3

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you are the only one that has the power and knowledge to do it

coral gorge
eternal talon
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I'm sure they'd know the definition of the word and not just... I don't know... stranded?

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Besides, they didn't crash because any political thing as far as we know, -- the virus and the parasite just happened to break out of the collection and infected the crew, leaving the ship to drift.

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On that note though, it wouldn't surprise me, and would be quite nice actually, if at some point 10cc discuss or make it known how that whole debacle went down on the vessel

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Maybe in DoW given the multiverse they(10cc) have created?

tender berry
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Ah fuck yes...

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Dark Souls Ahhh ending shit right there, Fuck you Schaffer

coral gorge
eternal talon
coral gorge
eternal talon
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uh.... oh no

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retroactive exile?

coral gorge
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huh

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yeahhh

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they crashed

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and their buddies said "skill issue guys, go fuck yourselves"

eternal talon
coral gorge
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that too

eternal talon
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yeah, they probably dead

coral gorge
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but i guess space travel is slow

eternal talon
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except MATTER WAVE PROJECTOR

coral gorge
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lol

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lets just say it doesnt actually move you, it just moves the universe around you

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then everything *might * make sense

eternal talon
coral gorge
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eeeeeeeeee

eternal talon
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when destination is in the butterfly nebula 3k light years away

coral gorge
eternal talon
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are you implying in that worldline destination is where earth is and earth doesn't exist?

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then how were there coords in the mwp for it to corrupt?

coral gorge
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...i guess thats what im implying

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i hate multiverse

coral gorge
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why cant no one make a coherent dimension travel system

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that doesnt have you dabble in quantum physics

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FUCK IT, give me quantum physics but atleast have them make sense!

eternal talon
coral gorge
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i feel like 10cc didnt even thing that hard on it ngl

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i just hope DoW is coherent

eternal talon
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well i mean they are game devs, not physicists

coral gorge
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thats it

coral gorge
eternal talon
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mobius digital are fucking gods though

coral gorge
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real

eternal talon
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(its on sale 40% off rn to anyone reading this in chat, get it fr!)

coral gorge
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outer wilds best game of all time

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change my mind

eternal talon
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dont want to.

royal crow
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I got outer wilds for free

coral gorge
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n o w

coral gorge
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echoes is ngl my favorite horror experience

eternal talon
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it is truly amazing, ties up the entire game in a neat bow

coral gorge
eternal talon
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prisoner as a gtfo prisoner?

coral gorge
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its a gtfo reference

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always has been

eternal talon
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gtfo released into early access in 2019... covid went global in 2020.... covid GTFO marketing scheme

coral gorge
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lol

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i do have to wonder - did the writers come up with nam-v before the pandemic or did they do it mid pandemic and instantly threw it into the lore

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like... surely they had an idea for the virus before covid

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cause gtfo released in early access in what month?

eternal talon
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way back then we were still theorizing about space spores that were locked away in the meteor for millions of years.

coral gorge
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the covid shenanigans began in like december

eternal talon
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we didnt even really know anything about infectivity

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or hell, anything much really.

coral gorge
eternal talon
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i think space spore was like the thing behind a bunch of zombie movies

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not really a direct connection to sleepers in that.

coral gorge
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yeah

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didnt the backrooms have something to do with spores too?

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its overall a decently popular concept

eternal talon
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i have no idea, i don't follow the backrooms/liminal space trend at all

coral gorge
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so i may be very much wrong

tender berry
toxic wagon
fresh gyro
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lore is back

eternal talon
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"Lore is back"

fresh gyro
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i was wrong

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i admit it

coral gorge
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lore was back

craggy widget
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Interesting

honest summit
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The Lore of the lore

royal crow
clever junco
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could i get a short answer for if they are zombies?

fresh gyro
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no

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short enough?

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@eternal talon

royal crow
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they are sleepers

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a combination of NAM-V and a parasite

fresh gyro
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eviscerate them please

clever junco
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so... zombies then

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ty

royal crow
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Not zombies

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More like

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Interdimensional creatures

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Made from an interdimensional virus

fresh gyro
clever junco
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honestly dont see the difference. but also honestly just messing with ya

fresh gyro
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:3

fresh gyro
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how could you do that

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</3

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i would never do something like that

next panther
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cap

royal crow
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Dont mess in lore chat
Or You Will have an essay

fresh gyro
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frostty

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eviscerate please

next panther
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i dont know who youre talking to but im not frostty

fresh gyro
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bitch

next panther
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okay CUNTs

fresh gyro
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<3

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ly

clever junco
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k

next panther
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SHUT UP

fresh gyro
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wow frosty

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toxic much?

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reported

toxic wagon
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Calling a Symbiotic alien parasite/virus abomination a Zombie is wild.

eternal talon
# clever junco could i get a short answer for if they are zombies?

Zombies are per definition, the dead, Risen again or reanimated. Sleepers are not. This is one of the core reasons they are so terrifying.

Some variants destroy or heavy damage your brain... but not all do... it is entirely possible for you to be conscious and aware as the parasite puppets, mutates, and contorts your body. Snapping bones and tearing muscle as it mutates.

-- and given NAM-V's symbiosis with the parasite and the parasite's host, you won't die either. If not killed from physical trauma, you will stay that way forever. Think about the floaters on destination. They have been infected for billions of years.

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If you are turned into a sleeper, death would be the greatest mercy. Why do you think sleepers don't kill us in game, but only "down" us? It is so we can be infected later and turned into a part of the hive.

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If you die to a swarm of zombies, that bullet that puts down your rotting corpse would mean nothing to you. If you were infected by parasitidae garganta and NAM-V, you'd be begging for that bullet... if you still had control over your voice, that is.

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@fresh gyro is that good?

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For a medical answer: sleepers are fauna infected and puppeted by parssitidae garganta, often in symbiosis with the nam-v virus.

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also I've been at work all day, that is why I have been exceptionally late to reply to this posting

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(also yes, this is TOTALLY a short answer. You should see my other reply chains)

warped bloom
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ssh.. zombies

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theyre like clickers from last of us

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they even got the clicking part

eternal talon
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THATS A FUNGUS

warped bloom
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except that part of course

royal crow
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zombie

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zombie fungus

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the last of us?

warped bloom
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no

royal crow
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yes

raw terrace
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i could hear that perfectly

fresh gyro
regal olive
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i wonder how sleepers can even function

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all their vital organs are replaced with eggs

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it's just a shell of muscle ontop of eggs

honest summit
toxic wagon
fresh gyro
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lmao

royal crow
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Hmmmmmm

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HMMMMMMMMMMM

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.mh

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Lore

eternal talon
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Lore is temporarily canceled, out camping with no signal.

fresh gyro
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noooooo

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lore...

frozen whale
royal crow
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Blame the worldline shenanigans

eternal talon
fresh gyro
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rip

eternal talon
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Slow as fuck to post or even scroll reddit

fresh gyro
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reddit...

coral gorge
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Out of all things to use the 1 bar on

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you chose reddit?

fresh gyro
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lmao

regal olive
eternal talon
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12 miles, 11 hundred feet of elevation gain.

raw terrace
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how close are u
are u on like gravity falls yet

fresh gyro
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real?

eternal talon
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Tillamook state forest

eternal talon
raw terrace
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:O

coral gorge
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omg grass

eternal talon
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touch

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I am home now though, I was gone friday-sunday.

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Friday night was a very dark and painful slog.

fresh gyro
regal olive
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damn nature is out here thriving even with namv

eternal talon
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yes mods, this is totally lore related...

royal crow
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Photoshop a sleeper in the picture

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:3

eternal talon
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on an unrelated note, a trip to the yucatan would be FIRE.

toxic wagon
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Oregon hiking trails / nature is nice

coral gorge
honest summit
# eternal talon

Whoever you are, do NOT move. You have entered a restricted zone. There are traps everywhere. If you move...

coral gorge
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Yeah, frosty is looking for Durant, thats it

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everything is lore related

fresh gyro
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frosty did e2 irl...

next panther
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no i didnt

regal olive
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Don't lie

toxic wagon
warped bloom
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is there like an order on the expeditions in rundown 6

royal crow
warped bloom
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r6a1 -> r6b1 -> what

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theres r6b2 and r6c1

royal crow
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All A's first
Then all B's

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Then all C's

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Then all D's

warped bloom
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well the yellow expeditions seem story related

royal crow
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Yes

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They are

warped bloom
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so r6ax is after r6a1?

royal crow
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Im pretty sure the X levels are it's own thing

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Cause they were added after the rundown release

loud urchin
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Yeah the X levels are from the extension

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But plenty of rundowns had an extension

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R4 A3 B3 C3 E1 were extension levels, r5 had an extension

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It doesn't really matter much

warped bloom
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how come r6 has white levels in the middle (so not important to story?)

loud urchin
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How come R7 has the same?

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like I'm sure you can find a reasonable explanation

warped bloom
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they must just not be lore focused or something

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just more content

royal crow
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They are just more content

gray bone
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@olive shadow Here's da lore

honest summit
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I think the difference is that the yellow ones are where Plot Happens, while in White ones we are Just setting everything Up so that the further story Missions Could Take place

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At First i thought that yellow ones are Just Missions with voice acting, since og R6 did have voice acting that was moved into Terminal logs with ALT://R6

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But R7C3 is a White Mission even though Henriksson keeps talking to us

olive shadow
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ooooo

honest summit
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The Chart is wrong tho, ignore it

royal crow
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Is it tho

honest summit
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There is No Nightmare Squad and OG Team was Not in B2

royal crow
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Oh yeah B2 lol

royal crow
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We dont know of they exist or they didnt

royal crow
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Damn

royal crow
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Breh

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It would have been more cooler if they did something different

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But oh well
The writing in this Game is already an interesting shit show here and there

honest summit
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We need the Secret Secret ending where we fight that Giant Biomass that was inside of the collectors ship

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The E1 roar would be so much cooler If it was tied to it

royal crow
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They missed the perfect oportunity to throw a giant ass monster in the end of E1

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A unique monster

honest summit
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Combine 3 Tanks into the Patriarch LETSGOOO

royal crow
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Didnt a modded rundown had a massive flying meatball?

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They could have done something like that

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Man

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😔

coral gorge
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you make a game with extremely confusing writing atleast let us have some fun with it

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and dont confirm/deny the one fucking thing that isnt really important

opaque crown
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We need to go deeper

olive shadow
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what a wiley bunch of guys. I love it here.

warped bloom
olive shadow
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can we get spin off games about the four characters?

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please.

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I wanna know what happened to these poor souls

quick plank
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Bishop and Dauda for Smash Bros

olive shadow
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lmao

fresh gyro
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gtfo 2 when...

honest summit
olive shadow
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nooo

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bfore they get podded

honest summit
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imagine splinter cell esc mission of bishop installing spyware

olive shadow
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or a final stand as woods.

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or dauda trying to escape the clutches of an evil mega corp only to get black bagged in a welcom to the game esque sequence

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release it as 60$ dlc for the game as a single player campaigne experience for the players so they can understand the idiosynchresies of the characters

coral gorge
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but yeah it’d be cool to see more of them

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I will forever believe in GTFO 2, whatever and whenever it may be

olive shadow
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I got a little further into the lore and for dauda it seems more like a cult and new member relationship. he'd get to directly witness the horrors of the drilling operations and how everyones morale would change as the story develops

coral gorge
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I mean

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he was responsible for some of the horryfing things in garganta

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cough cough, human experiments

olive shadow
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haven't got there yet but that's wild.

coral gorge
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Overall, none of the characters are exactly… morall

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you could make an argument for bishop

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but even then theres no telling what kinda shit he did to survive the civil war

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and tbh i kinda like it

olive shadow
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there's a civil war?!

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what

coral gorge
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oh you dont know a lotttt

raw terrace
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i mean where are there not in the world

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in general

coral gorge
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yeah that too

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well when the game takes place there isnt one anymore but… i wont spoil

honest summit
coral gorge
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Lmao

olive shadow
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bro no.. don't

coral gorge
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wait anyone remember what sorta hole Bishop got sent to?

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i forgot the countries name

olive shadow
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brazil???

coral gorge
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lol

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it all ends in brazil

olive shadow
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actually?

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fr?

coral gorge
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no

olive shadow
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lmao

coral gorge
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i dont think so atleast

olive shadow
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new spoilers

coral gorge
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that saying… the ending does remind me of the amazon

raw terrace
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u got something ordered or

coral gorge
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the worst part is i fully expected someone to make that joke and i still hate it

warped bloom
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yes

raw terrace
olive shadow
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this game is crazy. I love it

valid phoenix
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yes it is

olive birch
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Does anyone remember which log talks about patient zero?

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Actually I'm not interested in the log itself. But I'm trying to remember the dates of the events of the game

royal crow
# olive birch Does anyone remember which log talks about patient zero?

ALT Rundown 5
Log: 7JR-T7U-780
On June 12th, 2057, Aaron broadcasts a message indicating that the expedition had found "patient zero" — a 33 year old male employee of Santonian Mining Company and member of Project Insight. Patient Zero had fled Garganta on 28th December, 2052 and "made it as far as Florida," the location of the first cluster in January, 2053

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I copied that from the wiki long ago it's the short version

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Here is the full thing if someone needs it:
This is Matthew Aaron, operations lead for the Daylight Mission. It's... June 12th, 2057. We've found him. Patient Zero. We've got him! Or a record of him, at least. NAM-V originated here, and now we have the proof. He was an employee of the Santonian Mining Company, he was 33 at the time he contracted the virus. He fled Garganta on... shit where is it... on 28th December 2052. Santonian were tracking him, well, Kovac were, and they believe he may have made it as far as Florida, which is where the CDC issued its first alert on January 11th 2053. This has to be him! It has to be. And they knew it all along! My god. They knew it all along. We found an internal email saying as much. Santonian knew about the virus and said nothing. Then they let it escape. It's not clear how the patient caught the virus. We don't have the medical records yet. He was working on something called Project Insight. We're still working on getting into that database. The network segmentation limits access to particular terminals. I think we're going to have to bite the bullet and go deeper into the facility. We've only made it down about 300 meters and... well none of us want to go any deeper. The mind plays tricks on you down there. I'm sure there's no one left alive here but I keep hearing things. The echoing and reverb is so distorted it's easy to get paranoid. You think someone is following you only to turn around and realize it's your own footsteps. Listen. Hello! Yeah. Matthew Aaron out.

ruby lakeBOT
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

warped bloom
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is this the level with the generators

steel spire
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R2B2

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Also has the log that's 30,831 rows long

eternal talon
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The excel spreadsheet log?

warped bloom
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the log with all the duplicate names of like idk the hsu clones

steel spire
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000-000-000 yeah lol

full stump
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Do we know what a neural frame is and why we devote so much effort to sticking a baby in it?

fresh gyro
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@eternal talon

warped bloom
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its like a house frame but you put the neural pathways in it

honest summit
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Neonate was modded by warden to fit into the N frame to extract certain Data that Warden needs. What Kind of Data? Idk. But looking at how the Main Goal of Warden till R6 was to enable the Project Rise, i Could speculate that its somehow related to it

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R3 was kinda about studying birthers, so maybe Warden did some studies on how to improve the Clones for them to Not die Off imedietly

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Could also be the opposite and it was infected with some Sort of Data to create the conduit Shaeffer was talking to

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We only dont know If it was left there or Warden sent another Team to Pick it Back Up or If it is still sitting there

eternal talon
fresh gyro
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<3

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ty

warped bloom
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are there like duplicate logs..? i just found a new log that wasnt tracked on my tracker but remember reading it

royal crow
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Bravo is like

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a year later

warped bloom
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well those seem to be the same as the logs from older rundowns

drowsy roost
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Do you mean the same log in the same rundown? There's a few duplicate logs across rundowns -- or minor variations/changes.

eternal talon
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r7e1 even had the same log in two zones, didn't it? in the first customprefab and in the pablo zone? the dauda experimentation one?

royal crow
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Lore

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Loreeeee

raw terrace
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lore uh hackett kisses well

fresh gyro
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HUH

royal crow
honest summit
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Dauda can confirm it aswell

coral gorge
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wait wasnt bishop the one thats canonically gay

craggy widget
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Haaa

honest summit
coral gorge
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he calls bishop gay

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truly peak lore

honest summit
coral gorge
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cant wait for DoW where the characters are just gonna call every enemy „gay” or say they have a „skill issue”

honest summit
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You are in the Den...of Skibidi

tough wave
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Is there greater lore on Kovac and Santonian?

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All I really know is Kovac is a security company and Santonian is the Umbrella Corporation/Weyland-Yutani of GTFO

eternal talon
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read the "for dummies" doc in the pins.

tough wave
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Ty

eternal talon
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it will always be the answer for everything.

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(and if its not, i'd be happy to further explain)

tough wave
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Alright, am I gonna spoil myself on what made the big hole we go down if I read this? Someone told me we naturally figure out what that was and I want to naturally figure that out.

eternal talon
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well have a look at the top of your screen... adding this channel in the first place is a big spoiler -- thats why its not enabled by default.

tough wave
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Someone pinged me down here ages ago about something and I just have it now lmao

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Same as the actual spoiler chat, I normally avoid both

eternal talon
tough wave
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So, don't read the doc yet, gotcha

eternal talon
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the doc was made to cover everything. from the collectors trillions of years ago, to the events surrounding the apocalypse a decade before the game begins, to during the game.

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it has been a universal quick-reference guide for over a year. Mostly just because reading one .txt is a million times faster than going through 248+ logs.

tough wave
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And I assume it isn't like, bullet pointed for specific little things such as Kovac/Santonian

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I'll read it whenever I finish the game then, in like another 400 hours

eternal talon
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no, it goes date by date, in chronological order, talking about the stuff that is going on

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sort of like a timeline

tough wave
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Gotcha, I'm still in the lore light part of GTFO from what I can tell

eternal talon
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but it also has segments discussing other lore not directly related to the order of events

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yeah... gtfo lore is insanely convoluted. basically impossible to learn without community resources...

tough wave
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It can't be worse then like

eternal talon
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not to mention the fact that many of the logs have just been entirely removed from the game

tough wave
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MGS

eternal talon
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and several are in ARG style codes that took hundreds of people weeks to solve

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that none of that is to mention the out-of-game logs and ambassador emails, which you cant really go back-in-time to sign up for now that game dev has ended.

tough wave
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Now I miss not getting into this game sooner tbh

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I love a good ARG

eternal talon
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the lore has been a really slow burn over the past half decade.

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at this point, its the community here and our resources... or... gtfo

tough wave
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So, as a more nebulous question is it good lore?

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Or do we like it cause we like GTFO?

eternal talon
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personally, i'd give it like a 7/10. originally the first five rundowns didnt have much, then ogr6 exploded with tons of new lore

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then r7 continued with that, then the alt// rundowns came out and threw a wrench in the works, but otherwise slowed it down again

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and r8 went back to super dense.

tough wave
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Yeah I'm on R4 rn, I jumped to R7 to do an A level real quick and some crazy man started using the PA system to talk to me

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Which was new

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R1-4 have seemed really light on lore compared to whatever that was

eternal talon
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I should mention! rundown 7 is the only rundown left in the game from the original universe

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the alt// ones are different, in some (like alt//r6), in significant ways.

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gameplay is mostly the same across the board, but lore is very diff.

tough wave
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I always found that to be a neat way of explaining balance changes tbh

eternal talon
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unless you mod, you won't be able to play those original rundowns either.

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just the alt// variants.

tough wave
eternal talon
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so chronoligically you should start at r7, then all of alt//, then r8

tough wave
eternal talon
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since og r1-r6 is unplayable and their logs either rewritten, or in the case of r6-in-level-dialogue from schaeffer, completely removed.

coral gorge
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tbh i think only an insane person would play R7, alts and then R8

eternal talon
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that is why there are multiple schaeffers in r8, etc.

coral gorge
eternal talon
tough wave
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Nah guys I'm about to go complete R7 then go back to R4 for the true GTFO lore experience

coral gorge
tough wave
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GTFO is a complicated game, huh?

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I'll enjoy the lore aspect later tho

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I like games with stories that aren't immediately apparent

eternal talon
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||you literally drown both schaeffers in the same room and find their corpses when you go down there||

coral gorge
eternal talon
coral gorge
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My brain thought there were more for a sec when i read your message

coral gorge
eternal talon
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i've been here for longer than pretty much anybody in the lore channel at this point, and i've seen basically all of the highs-and-lows.

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many-a-clusterfuck

tough wave
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I will say I like the cosmic horror angle I've gathered from it so far

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It's quite ambitious imo

coral gorge
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It is cool

eternal talon
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.... yeah that fits...

coral gorge
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Overall if you ignore the way the story is conveyed ingame (and some of its weirder parts) you get a pretty cool storyline

eternal talon
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thats basically the entire schtick with the collectors

tough wave
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It's one of my favorite brands of horror but it's really hard to pull off well

eternal talon
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infinite infinities of universes

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of which, we visit like 12

coral gorge
eternal talon
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our earth
alt//earth
destination
r6d4 (three more earths)
nightmare dimension
... i feel like i am forgetting a couple...

eternal talon
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ah, yeah! jungle world

tough wave
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"Nightmare dimension" you mean that isn't the one we're in rn in game?

eternal talon
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and we do indeed visit that one.

eternal talon
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its one of the ones we visit in r8

tough wave
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I'll get there eventually then

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I'm excited for mew environments

coral gorge
eternal talon
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every worldline we have been to (aside from jungle planet) have had the infection and sleepers.

coral gorge
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with whatever the fuck goes on there

eternal talon
coral gorge
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Cause like B2 is weird

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with the fucking sand appearing

tough wave
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Alright I'm done being here before I ultra spoil myself for something

coral gorge
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and crystals growing

tough wave
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I appreciate both of your time

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Thank you

eternal talon
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sand is from destination though, no?

coral gorge
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and then reverts at the end

tough wave
eternal talon
coral gorge
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it was always meant to be

eternal talon
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when you've got teammates like that...

coral gorge
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bishop was gay before it was popular

eternal talon
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surprising it wasnt more obvious

coral gorge
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lol

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but yeah coming back to R8B2

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that level is very weird with dimensions

eternal talon
coral gorge
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like it basically has fucking time travel

coral gorge
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luckily i can always flee to the DoW discord

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theyll never find me there

tough wave
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I hope I enjoy DoW half as much as I've enjoyed GTFO so far

eternal talon
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given the way they've written it... even IRL is a worldline

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(the irl where we play gtfo within the gtfo universe)

tough wave
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Lore aside I just hope the moment to moment gameplay and tension is as well done if not better since they've got more experience now

eternal talon
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every possible world, every variant big bang, every change regardless how small splits into two outcome worldlines.
every grain of sand that became glass instead, is another set of worldlines created

tough wave
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So to beat GTFO you commit an Owlman and nuke the multiverse?

eternal talon
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(not spoilers, this was 10cc's official teaser image)

tough wave
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Not my kink but go off

eternal talon
#

VORE

eternal talon
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it gets into the nam-v virus and all that.

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we were trying to escape.

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cant really say much more without spoiling you.

tough wave
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Gotcha

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I have one more stupid question if you do not mind

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Does the name Nam-V mean anything special or is it just "Nam-V"

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Is it V or 5?

eternal talon
# tough wave Does the name Nam-V mean anything special or is it just "Nam-V"

** What are Sleepers?

Sleepers are the final product of a NAM-V - Parasite infestation. NAM-V is extremely infectious and has a lethality rate of 100%.
Sleepers are created by the Parasite with NAM-V present. The Parasite was originally a victim of NAM-V and over time they have formed a Symbiotic relationship, with the Virus keeping the Parasite alive and active for undefined lengths of time, perhaps forever.
This allows NAM-V to maintain its hyper lethality without burning itself out of food or fuel to continue spreading, often hibernating for tens of thousands if not millions of years between outbreaks.
NAM-V also has a multipronged attack strategy, making it incredibly difficult to fight against and lending credence to the idea that it is not natural in origin and was some form of creation or bioweapon.

What are Giants? Hybrids?

Specialized variants of Sleepers are created by the Parasite to fill a niche in its hive. A great example of this would be the Scout, designed to keep watch while other Sleepers hibernate to keep a hive from being exterminated.
Another example would be the giant, created by an infected host that has a large quantity of muscle mass, this infected individual was mutated into a role more fitting by its genetic code and purpose the Parasite needed to support the hive.
It is this reason that nearly all Shooter variants appear to be female in origin, and nearly all Strikers being male.
Chargers appear to grow large nests with biomass (usually on ceilings), and are highly aggressive brutes, most likely derivative of big strikers, though they have their own big striker variant.
**

from the "for dummies" doc.

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and it is "v" yes, not five.

tough wave
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I appreciate you

coral gorge
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nam-5 sounds stupid ngl

tough wave
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Doesn't sound anymore or less stupid then Nam-V imo

coral gorge
eternal talon
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with no cure. it has countably infinite variants.

coral gorge
eternal talon
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it will mutate to hard counter you

coral gorge
tough wave
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Oh, no, there is infact a cure Frosty

coral gorge
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d e a t h

eternal talon
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(i dont remember the actual number)

coral gorge
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still not enough r-naught to kill the fucking mayans

eternal talon
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they were true fucking gigachads.

coral gorge
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biggest chads in gtfo

eternal talon
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somehow tanked and even won against a planet destroyer.

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(because the world didnt go extinct back then)

coral gorge
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they were just better

eternal talon
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they did what neither the modern 2060s humans, OR THE COLLECTORS could

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and the collectors make us look like specs of dust

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spears and bows be pog.

coral gorge
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i mean tbf the mayan plothole only exists cause it would appear that both nam-v and the parasite got out

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All that 10cc had to do was have only 1 of them show up

eternal talon
coral gorge
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actually… is it possible mayans only fought the parasite?

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like doesnt the parasite also mutate its host without nam-v, albeit into a much weaker form?

eternal talon
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yeah, its like the husk in barotrauma.

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lemme check the logs rq

coral gorge
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then perhaps we are overthinking it

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and there is no plothole

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there are no holes on the plot, just holes in your understanding

eternal talon
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**>>EBDT FRAGMENT 01BE1 START

ENC: Mambo Media Services news wire
//Translation complete//
A Fractured History
Las Noticias Central, Science Desk
June 3rd 2050

As the cleanup continues after the devastating Merida quake, a team of scientists from the Instituto GeolĂłgico are trying to figure out when the Merida faultline appeared, and if the seismic shift was a sign of things to come, or a forgotten history.

Their research has not been limited to the Yucatan. In their quest for answers they have sought archeological societies as far north as the Texas Independence and as far south as Honduras. The answers they were seeking turned up at the Lamanai Archaeological Project in Belize. The team uncovered ancient Mayan records of several earthquakes in the region, with the most recent one being in the mid 13th century.

Researchers at the Lamanai project studied scores of tablet inscriptions from their extensive library and discovered reference to a series of catastrophic population declines that occurred in the Yucatan between 800 and 1300 CE. Until the Merida quake, these population fluctuations were assumed to be related to the frequent outbreaks of disease in the region.

Now, with the context of the newly discovered fault line it seems like the ancient Mayan scribes were giving us more information than we knew. While disease is still almost certainly the reason for the massive drop in Mayan population during the 9th century, the cause of the disease is now much clearer. Earthquakes.

Earthquakes are not a major cause of casualties in the ancient world. Structures were too small and the population was too widely dispersed to inflict mass casualties even from the most powerful of quakes. It is the famine and disease, and the hardship which follows that claims the most number of lives. There have been man [Corrupted]

Encryption checksum mismatch – contact your IT administrator**

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**Mambo Media Services search query
Keywords: virus, Mayan, Maya, historic, flea
6,724,158 results returned. Filtered by relevance:

“Where did the Mayans go?” - Our Earth magazine 9/25/43

A new theory regarding the sudden demise of Mayan culture has been presented by Dr. Yvette Hernandez at the Anthropology Forum convention. Dr. Hernandez’s research posits that the Mayans were almost completely wiped out several times by an illness they referred to as “Flea Demons”. Though the interpretation of hieroglyphic stelae leaves much room for interpretation, Dr. Hernandez believes she has discovered conclusive references to mass deaths related to the illness on three separate occasions, right up to the 16th century during the occupation of Mayan territory by the Spanish Conquistadors…

“Superman, Superbug” - Medical Examiner 12/3/44

We’re at war. Right now. All of us. Our entire species. We’ve always been at war, and until recently we’ve been winning the fight. No quarter has been given to our adversary, yet no matter how often we drive the opponent back, they return with greater power and more tactical strength to assault us once again. Who is this arch-nemesis? What has been attacking our species since we first came down from the trees? Who is this enemy we cannot vanquish? Bugs. Bacteria. Viruses. Microorganisms. From the black death, to the Mayan Flea Demons, to Ebola and the SARS Covid outbreaks in the early part of the century, the Superbug always returns stronger and more resilient than before; so, what are we doing to fight them?...**

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“Nightmare Neighbours” - Deep Fields 06/14/44
The idea of an interstellar virus that could survive an environment as hostile as space is a mystery that has captivated the imagination of both scientists and the general public for decades. A recent biochemical analysis of those remarkably robust yet unassuming tardigrades is once again forcing us to question the origin of some of earth's oldest viruses. If the lowly tardigrade is capable of withstanding being frozen, irradiated, desiccated, asphyxiated, starved, battered and all around abused, what about the viruses it carries? Are they too...

coral gorge
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Oh hey

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covid reference

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didnt know thats a real thing

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also frosty pls chill

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no more text walls

eternal talon
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thats literally all i do tho

coral gorge
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uhhhh rebrand

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Well either way

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id say its possible the mayans got hit with parasites

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and not the virus

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ez plothole fix

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just 50 more to go

eternal talon
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schaeffer discrepancy staring back at you.

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t'was literally never answered

coral gorge
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scheaffer isnt real

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he is a psyop

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actually

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yknow what?

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YKNOW WHAT

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new theory time

eternal talon
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a NEW theory???

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this late in the game??
lets hear it.

coral gorge
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The entire game is a psyop. A simulation of sorts. There is no end of humanity. We have been lied to by everyone. The warden is an FBI/CIA agent and the entire point of the game is to find a god squad. A squad that wont lose its mind without wardens babysitting, a squad that wont die. Scheaffer was never trying to escape. He was an american agent all the time testing us! The ALT squad isnt a version of the main squad its just a random ass squad made to look like us with… fucking ai! THE WHOLE GAME IS A GIANT LIE

eternal talon
coral gorge
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Not rly a dream

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more like

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the entire game is a tutorial theory

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A carefully prepared obstacle course to find the best squad possible

eternal talon
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a theory so perfect... i cant even use logs to disprove it because those logs could be a part of the simulation.

coral gorge
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EXACTLY

eternal talon
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you could start a religion out of this

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like the rest of them

coral gorge
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THE LOGS WERE PLACED THERE TO DECEIVE US

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after all these years i believe we have cracked it

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GTFO holds no more secrets

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the ultimate real plot that 10cc crafted so well only a fucking insane and tired person could come up with it

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aka every swedish writer

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and also me apparently

eternal talon
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alt// reality time:

during the events involving deciphering the coords, they pointed to two locations. the butterfly nebula...
and here, on earth, in the middle of the atlantic. if the coords were not pointing to space and you were a developer, what would you have placed here?

coral gorge
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its the fucking base from the SCP universe

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wtf was its name

eternal talon
coral gorge
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the GOC base, final stronghold of humanity

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i think it was a super secret military base on the atlantic

eternal talon
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from scp 5000?

coral gorge
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yeah

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scp is real scp is real scp is real

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and also swedish for some reason

honest summit
warped bloom
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Whats with the eggs in the sleepers, are they parasite eggs

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What does the parasite look like

coral gorge
eternal talon
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Google images is your friend.

coral gorge
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id rather save my sanity

raw terrace
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it's mostly images of the movie u baby

eternal talon
raw terrace
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oh idk then

eternal talon
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LMAO first page is gtfo!

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we've made it to google

tranquil sentinel
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Big win for GTFO players all over the globe ⬆️

regal olive
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so

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what's at the bottom of the hole

royal crow
regal olive
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the hole in my heart

royal crow
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you dont have a heart

eternal talon
regal olive
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why is there a conveniently placed elevator for convicts at the top of this hole that was nuked into the complex

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also are there multiple holes each with a drop system

royal crow
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people made it after the virus broke out didnt them?

regal olive
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the nukes happened after the virus broke out

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the laser 🅱️eams

eternal talon
royal crow
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they saw an oportunity and took them

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Lol

regal olive
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wait isn't the spaceship 4000 meters down

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( i am not going to read the for dummies doc )

raw terrace
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fish reacted for not reading it

royal crow
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hey Slendo

eternal talon
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-- and the beams reached all the way to the surface. they would have kept going, too, except they were somehow programmed to stop just before they breached the surface and/or the sea floor.

raw terrace
regal olive
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i know you've used steganography to insert f-35c instructions into the file so i get raided by the FBI

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you think this is my first rodeo

royal crow
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see for yourself

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:)

regal olive
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i am already on several watch lists

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for cinema, obviously

raw terrace
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also yes the spaceship was deep underground but we never go past 1300~ meters in the base game anyways

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i think the deepest levels is r7e1 with 1400 or so

regal olive
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yeah

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i wonder if it's safer under that

eternal talon
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its not.

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it is SO much worse.

regal olive
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like below a certain point there would be no more people

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therefore no sleepers

eternal talon
#

no

raw terrace
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the sleepers actively go down

royal crow
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theres sleepers we never see below

eternal talon
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then you'd have alien sleepers

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from the collection the collectors had archived in their ship.

regal olive
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how do you know they're alive

royal crow
regal olive
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no sleepers die

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source sledgehammer

eternal talon
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the floaters on destination have been flying around without food for 7 trillion years.

regal olive
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yeah i mean through injury

royal crow
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you think someone hammer thousand of sleepers down there?

eternal talon
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NAM-V & Paraisitidae Garganta are just super OP.

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the sleepers down there would most likely either be:

regal olive
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i think the collision with the earth qualifies as injury

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if my sledgehammer can do what it does

eternal talon
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a; collectors
b; ancient mayans
c; species from the collection that got infected and killed the collectors when their ship crashed.

regal olive
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extiction level impact probably would

royal crow
regal olive
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eeh

eternal talon
regal olive
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anything that isn't a microorganism probably experienced 1 jillion g force and got turned into ramen

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i don't think anything baby sized or above would have survived that impact

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microorganisms sure

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since well, the events of gtfo happened

eternal talon
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including all of the artifacts, least of all, the MWP

regal olive
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specimens as in alive organisms?

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or artifacts

eternal talon
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both

regal olive
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i am uninstalling this videogame

eternal talon
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he describes entire corridors and such.

regal olive
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would be cool if he took pictures

eternal talon
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the ship is not dust. it may not be very structurally sound anymore, but it is still there.

eternal talon
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and we never get to go there in-game sadly.

regal olive
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the ship fine

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that's alien magic material

eternal talon
regal olive
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but biological things surviving that deceleration

royal crow
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they are

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aliens

eternal talon
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like i said, the virus and the parasite are op op

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and the things they infect (sleepers) are also op.

regal olive
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yeah but sleepers aren't the virus and parasite

royal crow
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the fuck you mean

regal olive
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the fuck you mean

eternal talon
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sleepers are the virus and the parasite both infecting a host.

regal olive
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when you get cancer, do you become cancer

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sleepers are not the virus

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fuck you talkin bout

royal crow
eternal talon
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if just parasites infect a host, you'd get something like the husks in barotrauma.
if just the virus, 100% certain death.
if both, immortality and incredible resilience.

royal crow
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in a host

regal olive
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they are infected by the virus and the parasite

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they are not the virus or the parasite

royal crow
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im going to game end myself

regal olive
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can we do it together

royal crow
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sure

regal olive
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yay

eternal talon
regal olive
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yeah i mean that sleepers are a seperate category of thing

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by the way in r8, we don't go in hydrostasis right

eternal talon
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sleepers are really just parasites with nam-v controlling and mutating a host.

eternal talon
regal olive
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at least after c1

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not that

royal crow
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after D1-C2 we dont

regal olive
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i mean that we stop getting orders from the warden and then anyone, so we don't go into hydrostasis

eternal talon
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correct.

regal olive
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but at the start of levels we still wake up in hydrostasis and drop

eternal talon
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we are on our own post-removal of our chips.

eternal talon
royal crow
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im pretty sure even ALT team on D1 doesnt go into hydro

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they walk to KDS Deep too

eternal talon
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the drop down sequence is a glorified loading screen that realistically can't be edited on a per-level basis

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not even in modding.

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its either as-is, or wholly replaced.

regal olive
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aha

eternal talon
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(believe me, i would have removed it for PT. doesn't fit the story)

regal olive
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so sorry i wasn't paying attention, are there multiple holes

royal crow
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yes

regal olive
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okay interesting

eternal talon
royal crow
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what if

regal olive
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w h at about the h o l e s though

royal crow
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schaeffer was a collector all this time

regal olive
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scheaffer is the warden

eternal talon
eternal talon
regal olive
regal olive
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O K A A Y

eternal talon
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T H E R E A R E 3 2 0 0 0 K S O S

royal crow
regal olive
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I TH I NK

eternal talon
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W E A R E O N L Y F O U R O F T H E M

regal olive
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i think it's crazy how fucking efficient our group is

royal crow
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perfect squad

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:)

fresh gyro
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I'm gonna lose it what is going on here

royal crow
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we are a perfect squad
the best of the best

eternal talon
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we always first try everything.

regal olive
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wait truly?

royal crow
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yeah

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we are

eternal talon
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yes.

royal crow
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at least OG team is

fresh gyro
royal crow
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ALT team who knows
fuck them

eternal talon
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yes, alt// die in r8 so...

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clearly not.

regal olive
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i know we first try things lore wise but how do we know this is something special out of millions

eternal talon
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(so i can give a proper answer)

regal olive
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you said our squad is perfect across the multiverse

eternal talon
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yes.

regal olive
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how do you know that

eternal talon
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kovac, more specifically, insight, were in contact with a fuckton of alternate earths. the excell spreadsheet is... extensive, to say the least. pable can post it while i am typing

royal crow
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What spreadsheet

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LMAO

eternal talon
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as they were communicating, kovac was working on replacing the legion project with what you likely know as the failed RISE project. well, in one of their logs, they discuss their search for the perfect squad, that being us...

royal crow
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Im in the toilet right now

eternal talon
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one sec, i'll link it...

regal olive
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Oh snap

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Btw your profile picture goes hard for some reason

eternal talon
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the log make take a couple minutes to load on your device.

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it is several thousand lines long

regal olive
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What does it contain

eternal talon
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membrane ids (worldline identifiers for different worldlines)
the names of employees
their local employee ids
their hsu locations
and their local status