gtfo-lore

[fresh gyro]

if you want to

take it i mean

[royal crow]

What

Oh

🤨

[fresh gyro]

:3

[warped bloom]

Heisemberg

Hammersteij

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arent the characters supposed to react to the audio logs in r5a2? theres voicelines on the wiki but i dont hear em

[raw terrace]

they talked in the og but then they got unused with the alts

same for the voicelines for r6

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sad

[royal crow]

Lore

[static sage]

Been reading and diving into GTFO's lore rabbit hole

I'm having a hard time understanding the two teams/alternate dimension

[coral gorge]

What exactly you struggling with?

just the concept or some details?

[honest summit]

Spaghetti Timeline? Hmm

[coral gorge]

i fucking love wordline spaghetti

[honest summit]

Each Rundown in a nutschell

[static sage]

Hey! The concept of the same team from different dimensions existing in the same dimension?

I dont understand why there's a rift in the first place

It sounds like a time travel plot, and an alternate reality plot at the same time

[coral gorge]

It very much is lol

alr lemme explain

[honest summit]

Check Out Frosties overwiev on that (Spoiler ahead)

||#gtfo-lore message||

[coral gorge]

So:
||Starting off, a bunch of scientists at the complex managed to reverse engineer alien tech and create the Matter Wave Projector (MWP for short) which allowed its users to move between diffrent wordlines (realities).|| ||However since they didnt quite understand it, it caused a bunch of weird anomalies such as people having memories from other wordlines or recordings of things that didnt happen.||
||Eventually all went to shit in the complex and the MWP sat there not doing anything.||
||Up until the warden had the prisoners start using the MWP in R6 and R7. That led to even more anomalies, and since it was happening in multiple wordlines at the same time, shit started to be really weird.||
||Until eventually, a giant ass matter wave collapse occured that merged several diffrent wordlines into one, causing several teams of the same prisoners to be in one reality.||

[honest summit]

The wall of Grey lmao

[coral gorge]

God damn it, i write an essay and just get beaten by a link to frostys messages

[coral gorge]

real

[honest summit]

The Chart is still pretty nifty

[coral gorge]

oh right its that chart

that has the numbers mixed

lol

[honest summit]

Surely 10C thought ahead of us and B2 is a completely different group

[coral gorge]

As a wise man once said: „there are no holes in the plot, just holes in your own understanding”

[static sage]

Huh. So this is happening all while a lethal alien virus is wrecking havoc on earth?

[coral gorge]

Yup, the virus first fucked up the complex then had some fun on the surface

[honest summit]

When the Goal is real

[honest summit]

Funny how ancient people were Like "A Flea Demon? And? "

[coral gorge]

True

the mayans were just built diffrent

[static sage]

So say Team 1 and Team 2 are in the same mine, at different points in time but are communicating to their future, alternate reality selves through voice recording to do what exactly?

Thanks for the responses BTW guys. I'm a sucker for lore and this has all been great

[royal crow]

?

this game isnt about time travel

[honest summit]

They are Not communicating to the Future directly. Time flows at different speeds in each membrane

[royal crow]

yeah

[static sage]

Which is whats confusing me. Why aren't our alternate versions existing at the same time

[royal crow]

because they cant?

they are a different us

in a different worldline

there cant be 2 versions at the same time unless they used the MWP to travel to anotehr worldline

then 2 of us will exist at the same time

[coral gorge]

its the same point in time.
Time only flows diffrent across diffrent wordlines.
After the merge, they exist normally together in one wordline, no time stuff attached

[static sage]

But both team 1 and 2 were at the same mining site?

[coral gorge]

In R8 yes

[royal crow]

yeah because the worldlines merged in R8

[honest summit]

In R8? Yes, but one Team is faster than the other

[royal crow]

better than the other*

OG team > ALT team

[coral gorge]

tbh i wonder

[royal crow]

[coral gorge]

are both squads „perfect”

[royal crow]

yes

[honest summit]

They have besten R8B3 in under 5 minutes lmao

[royal crow]

both of them are perfect squads

[honest summit]

Must be using logs smh

[coral gorge]

nah, they do it in negative time

[royal crow]

they literally travel BACK in time

the devs fucked up so bad

[coral gorge]

so that also implies after R8E1 the situation is so bad, even a „perfect” squad cant win

fun

[royal crow]

tbh they were going to win

but
what else can they do

after theres no more MWP

or data cubes

[coral gorge]

Yeah, they were stuck either way

[royal crow]

the warden knew that and simply gave them mercy

[coral gorge]

Only other option was getting into HSUs and being in a coma forever

[honest summit]

Mods, He Has sv_cheats on!

[royal crow]

(by leaving and letting them get killed by the sleepers)

[coral gorge]

yeah

im still curious about the details of what happens to the warden at the end

[honest summit]

He was turned off

[royal crow]

he deactivated all security systems and simply left

he failed in the end

:b

[coral gorge]

Like does it get killed by biocom finally, does it game end itself, or does it actually „leave”

[coral gorge]

Did he?

[royal crow]

i think it just leaves

[coral gorge]

he got a squad and kds deep out

scheaffer(s) are dead

[royal crow]

he wanted to save ALT but OG yoinked the data cubes

[honest summit]

I mean lets assume Shaeffers plan Works and a nuclear Explosion somehow Happens.

[coral gorge]

This leads back to the question: did it NEED to save ALT or did it just want to get rid of scheaffer

[royal crow]

i would say both

[rapid olive]

Who is the dead squad you meet at the end of R8D1?

[coral gorge]

I mean, it shouldnt really matter in the end.
A squad made it out alongside KDS Deep

[honest summit]

Shaeffer wanted to destroy Wardens Home. Not Garganta, its Home. So i assume the Nuke was targeted at the mothership underneath garganta

[royal crow]

you meet a lot of dead squads in R8

they are us from other worldlines

[coral gorge]

A random version of our squad from a diff reality

[rapid olive]

So are all ALT rundowns connected, or each one is a seperate instance?

[coral gorge]

Conmected

everything is connected

[royal crow]

in Rundown 8 OG and Alt + like 8 other worldlines merge into eachother

[coral gorge]

id say thats a bit of extreme lore alex

[rapid olive]

R8D1 squad is from ALT rundowns
R8E1 squad is from another ALT rundown?
R8E2 OG squad?

[royal crow]

"Due to the nature of the topics related to lore, this chatroom is spoiler heavy, please read and chat with this in mind."

[royal crow]

R8A1 - E1 is ALT
R8A2 - E2 is OG

[coral gorge]

Hm?

Wdym R8E1 another squad

[coral gorge]

oh right, i guess

[royal crow]

the ALT squad we play as is the same squad as the ALT rundowns we play

[rapid olive]

Okay. Right so the prisoners you play 'quads' have many, many copies from other realities?

[royal crow]

that sounds stupid
what i said above

[coral gorge]

Yup

the actual playable versions of our quad is OG and ALT

[royal crow]

the only difference is that we are a perfect squad

[coral gorge]

(squads)

[rapid olive]

Copy.. there are many other unplayable quads (Bishop, Woods, Dauda, Hackett) all same characters, different timelines.

Very interesting

[coral gorge]

Yeah

[royal crow]

interesting indeed

[honest summit]

But what If, all of the Shit is Happening at the Same time? That would explain more than 2 Teams dropping into A1/A2

[rapid olive]

How many squads of the same do you find? R8D1 was the first time I found the entire squad, but I am pretty sure I found hackett corpses before, I thought just placeholders.

[royal crow]

in A1, B2 you can find dead squad members

[coral gorge]

Okay so:
R6CX, R8A1/A2, R8D1

anything else?

[royal crow]

D2?

[coral gorge]

does D2 have bodies?

[royal crow]

or im stupid?

[coral gorge]

I dont think D2 has bodies

[royal crow]

i dont think the 2nd half of R8 has bodies

[coral gorge]

yeah

except A2

[royal crow]

R8B2

[coral gorge]

Oh right

[royal crow]

in the crystal room

[coral gorge]

forgor about that one

[rapid olive]

Do both 'playable' quad's Shaeffer's meet in R8 (When all realities collide) ?

There was one voice comm of the manic one telling us it was a Warden Trap, but i dont remember if they met.

[royal crow]

...

[coral gorge]

R8D2

[royal crow]

cubix

spoilers

smh

[coral gorge]

but i wont spoil more

overall id recomend stearing clear from this chat if you havent seen all of R8

[rapid olive]

Yes just finished R8E1. Curious about the squad that I foudn in R8D1.. Nice one

[coral gorge]

do you want me to copy and paste your prev message

[royal crow]

.t lfg

[ruby lake]

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[royal crow]

get lfged

[fresh gyro]

lfg bombing incoming

take cover

[coral gorge]

fuck you

[coral gorge]

.t lfg inbound

[royal crow]

love you too

[rapid olive]

R7 was OG only lads?

[royal crow]

yup

there was OG R1-R6

[rapid olive]

R7 team 'Playable'

Was same as OG - R1 - R6 ?

[royal crow]

yes

same people

same team

same shenanigans

[rapid olive]

Nice

ALT team manage to get to R8 from their actions in ALT://R6, i believe.

[coral gorge]

yup

[royal crow]

You could Say the same about the other teams we dont really know of

They probably did something similar

[coral gorge]

they fucked around with the MWP and found out

[rapid olive]

Right, yes agree Pablo. However we wont know their arch, other then that they all died, after making their way to another reality.

[coral gorge]

Or during the warp
I like to think the teams in R8A1 got killed by the fucked up environment after the warp

as in the ceiling being floor

and whatnot

[royal crow]

Skill issue

[rapid olive]

I did not SEE any dead team in R8A1. Do you have a picture?

Unless they were in the gardens?

[coral gorge]

Its like 2nd room of the level

[royal crow]

It's on the ceiling

[coral gorge]

the one with a mini lake in the middle

[static sage]

Oh, so both teams quite literally were on the mining site at the same time, the Alt Team were just ahead and further down?

[rapid olive]

Oh really

[coral gorge]

a couple corpses in the lake

and a couple in the ceiling

[royal crow]

They were moving at the same time actually
They make stuff parallel to each other

Alt team helps OG
And OG help Alt

[coral gorge]

Ehhhh not rly.
In R8 both teams are sometimes just a couple zones away from each other

[royal crow]

In C1 and C2 they are separated by only a door
A single door

[rapid olive]

Yes you can hear gun fire in a lot of R8 from other teams

[royal crow]

And D2 takes place below D1

[static sage]

How am I learning new things, understaning it better but simultaneously getting more confused

[rapid olive]

YEs its very cool story.

[coral gorge]

Welcome to this game

[royal crow]

Playing it Will make it less confusing

I think

Or it Will fuck You more

[coral gorge]

lol

yeah the lore gets crazy

[royal crow]

Basically both teams move at the same time
Since they both help each other

All the tier levels take place at the same time

As take place at the same time
Same with B's

[coral gorge]

roughly the same time

E1 starts towards the end of E2

[rapid olive]

Yes @static sage all parties link up on r8. All squads are the same people from 'different' realities. Kind of like your carbon copy in duplicate universe.

[coral gorge]

malefic you cooking an essay or just lurking lol

[royal crow]

He has been typing for 15 mins

Wtf

[rapid olive]

The 'Good Shaeffer' is killed by manic Schaeffer, and the 'manic schaeffer' is drowned in the drainage pumps?

[royal crow]

Yup

Or You can drown both too

[rapid olive]

There was one more Schaeffer, saying ' Dont Leave me' as you teleport out of there? Who was that?

[coral gorge]

What

[royal crow]

?

[rapid olive]

Hangon

[royal crow]

Theres only 2

And they both die

[coral gorge]

Theres only 2 yeah

Or atleast, as far as we know there are only 2

[rapid olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Lfpb-OeDI

54:35

[static sage]

And essentially, the only survivors of the whole ordeal are the 8 guys?

[royal crow]

4

One team dies

[coral gorge]

thats C2

[royal crow]

The other survives

[coral gorge]

Thats just Og (insane) scheaffer

[royal crow]

4 + some HSUs

[rapid olive]

When you portal to the new world 'membrane' who is the guy that greets you? Dr Durant?

[royal crow]

Yup

[coral gorge]

Yeah

[royal crow]

One of the members of the EF01 expedition

[coral gorge]

Unlike in OG, in alt the entire expedition doesnt get mauled to death by sleepers

[rapid olive]

Do you know at the end of R8E1, when you hand over the datacubes. Does that just go to the other side of the door? I cant explain the big explosion area just beyond where you make the last stand.

Looks like one of the elevators fell down.

[coral gorge]

R8E2 explains it all

[royal crow]

The OG team asks for the data cubes

[coral gorge]

do you want to be spoiled?

[royal crow]

And use the MWP

[coral gorge]

Alex spoilers

u bitch

whose spoiling now

[rapid olive]

Right, that entire space is where the TP was?

[royal crow]

After they use the MWP a whole part of KDS Deep warps

[coral gorge]

Yup

[coral gorge]

yup

[royal crow]

Yes

[rapid olive]

Copy.

Was the ALT team actually infected as well, was there any chance they could get out?

[royal crow]

Everyone is infected

[rapid olive]

Even OG ?

[royal crow]

Yes

[coral gorge]

we dont know
They SHOULD be infecte but alt scheaffer claims they arent

[coral gorge]

Probably are infected too

[rapid olive]

So EF01 is fucked as well (Non desert land)

[royal crow]

Yes

[coral gorge]

If we believe OG was infected - yes

[royal crow]

Poor Durant

We do a little trolling

[coral gorge]

they get fucked by OG team escaping

[rapid olive]

So OG team, intentionally fucked ALT.

[coral gorge]

Yeah

[rapid olive]

I am sure I will see that log shortly.

[royal crow]

Yes

[coral gorge]

as scheaffer said „You will betray them just like you betrayed me”

[rapid olive]

So sad 😦 How could you not want to meet yout copy.

[royal crow]

They dont know they are copies

[coral gorge]

keep in mind - our characters are not good people

[coral gorge]

they do?

[royal crow]

They don't

They never learn the other team is THEM

[rapid olive]

They must have seenn 10000x hackett corpses too xD

[coral gorge]

C2 last scheaffer dialogue

he tells them they are their copies

[royal crow]

Oh

Even then

OG slaps

[coral gorge]

yeah

[coral gorge]

lol

[royal crow]

I think he meant there Will be copies of themselves in the new universe because Its a different one

Not that the other team are copies

[coral gorge]

but yeah overall - OG abandons alt team cause of a bunch of reasons:
They are stresed and just wanna gtfo
Like scheaffer said, they prolly dont wanna have copies of themselves in the clean wordline
And OG team makes it very clear they only see ALT as a means to get the data cubes

[coral gorge]

i dont think so

[royal crow]

" do You think they want new copies of themselves in the NEW universe"

[coral gorge]

Yeah

he means it as in „do you want them to escape with you”

[royal crow]

No?

[coral gorge]

atleast thats how i see it

[royal crow]

He meant they Will met themselves in the new universe

[coral gorge]

like OG scheaffer does know of their existance thats for sure

[coral gorge]

that doesnt make sense tho

[royal crow]

It does

[coral gorge]

a clean universe cannot be an earth

[rapid olive]

earth is gg

[royal crow]

You think OG Schaeffer knows that?

Alt knows
Og doesnt

[coral gorge]

Maybe

now heres the thing alex

OG scheaffer knows ALT team are their copies

in D2 we see it very clearly

also wait let me pull up the entire dialogue

[royal crow]

@honest summit wtf are You typing

[coral gorge]

why the fuck does the wiki not have C2s transcript

[royal crow]

Skill issue

[coral gorge]

wait alex

it just hit me

[royal crow]

Yeah?

[coral gorge]

”do you think they are going to want copies of themselves in that new universe? Would you? They are YOU!”

[royal crow]

Yeah?

[coral gorge]

He tells it to them

straight up

[royal crow]

Idk

Sus

[coral gorge]

That ALT team is them

the „they” is ALT team

[royal crow]

Maybe

[rapid olive]

which part of R8E2 does OG ask ALT team to put datacubes through?

[royal crow]

Probably

In the end

[coral gorge]

the very end

[coral gorge]

not maybe bitch

[royal crow]

When they get to KDS Deep

[royal crow]

Maybe

[coral gorge]

i hate you

[royal crow]

I love You too

[coral gorge]

bitch

=)

[rapid olive]

does Manic Schaeffer ever interact with the ALT team? Or only OG.

[coral gorge]

No he never reaches ALT team

only ALT scheaffer

[rapid olive]

Looks like OG team asks them to send cubes because they are about to get rekt too.

[royal crow]

Indeed

[coral gorge]

Yup

[rapid olive]

I am sure if possible, they would have escaped as a 8 stacks.

[coral gorge]

or rather, they think ALT team is about to die

[royal crow]

OG is about to get clapped by Nightmares

[rapid olive]

Yes we are all in agreeance.

[coral gorge]

Ehhh i doubt it

[royal crow]

And Alt is running for their life

[rapid olive]

Nothing personal, but best to secure those cubes before they die.

[coral gorge]

like OG are such broken people at this point

[royal crow]

"Its us or them "
Someone says this line

[coral gorge]

their one hope of getting out, OG scheafer, had gone insane, killed Henrikson and tried to lead them to their demise as well

[rapid olive]

Yeah true

[coral gorge]

I doubt og would trust anyone at that point

[rapid olive]

They just wanna GTFO at this point, so close to the end.. do whatever it takes

[royal crow]

Tbh
Would You Open the door for the other team?

[rapid olive]

8 rundowns of waking up, and fucking crazy missions.

[coral gorge]

I think bishop says „Its us or them now, and i choose us”

[coral gorge]

yeah

[rapid olive]

Regardless great game, the lack of lore in your face is what makes it so riveting...

[coral gorge]

Yeah

honestly i really like the lore of this game and how its shown

it defo has its minuses and weird aspects

but i like it and i hope DoW will not disapoint lore wise

[rapid olive]

gnight boys.. thanks for answering some questions, think i got it all now

[static sage]

Is manic Schaeffer OG or Alt Schaeffer?

[coral gorge]

OG

alt remained sane

[royal crow]

Sane enough to not go crazy

[static sage]

Goodness. So the basically OG world fucked Alt world by bringing both dimensions together making it into one?

[royal crow]

No

[eternal talon]

Holy chat activity batman...

[coral gorge]

real

[royal crow]

The worldlines merged because too many MWP shenanigans

It was an accident

It wasnt Made on purpose

[coral gorge]

it wasnt on purpose but yes

[static sage]

So the world consist of just 4 people?

Wow... this is depressing

[royal crow]

No

Theres more people

Other then us, the other teams, schaeffer

The people in the HSUs are still technically alive

Probably some people on the Surface

[royal crow]

But this is highly unlikely

[static sage]

But everyone is doomed to succumb to the virus though?

[royal crow]

Yes

[coral gorge]

prolly like a couple dozen in bunkers

[coral gorge]

Pretty much

Unless they manage to sit in a bunker forever

literally forever

[royal crow]

I hope Mr Truth somehow is still alive

:)

[coral gorge]

his final log is him literally preparing to game end himself is it not?

[royal crow]

He just says it's his last transmission
That he lost his dogs

That the world is ruined

But i don't think he says he Will end game himself

[coral gorge]

I think he also says that he is sick?

and that he is preparing to like set his house ablaze if he gets transformed

[royal crow]

everyone can survive a fever
(I'm delusional)

[coral gorge]

i mean tbf he was prolly one of the final people on earth who werent hiding in bunkers

he had the balls to stay on the surface

[royal crow]

" I'll die with my hand on my heart."

yeah i think he game ended himself

sad

[gusty wagon]

wasnt the active life of NAM-V on surfaces 5 weeks? or months i cant remember

extremely transmissable but would die in that time if no host or. go dormant??

i remember there being a log abt it. that or it was revealed to me in a dream and im crazy

[coral gorge]

Yes you are correct

except the parasite is on the surface too in ALT and presumably the R8 worldline

making the virus immortal

so while in OG it would be a matter of just surviving the first death wave and then you’d be fine

in ALT thats not the case

also i think it was more than 5 weeks, 5 weeks was the time it takes to kill a person i believe, but im not 100% sure

[royal crow]

Correct

5 weeks is what it takes to kill someone

[coral gorge]

yeah

but the core idea stays

in OG you could wait out the virus

in ALT its impossible

[karmic vale]

How much matter waves projectors do we have?

[royal crow]

it should be 1 per worldline

each worldline has its own MWP

since you know , collectors and stuff

[karmic vale]

That's why I was confused then person started to proclaim there's multiple of them

[royal crow]

multiple of them exist yeah

but by default theres only one per worldline as far as we know

by default

[honest summit]

I Could See it Like Multiple Teams: Multiple Shaeffers: Multiple Projektors. But the one we Got from R8A1 is somehow related to the nightmares

So i doubt that Just everyone Has it

[royal crow]

obviously if someone with an MWP travels to another worldline then theres 2 in that same worldline

[karmic vale]

Yes

[royal crow]

maybe that MWP came from that dimension?

[honest summit]

If all Cristalls came from other Dimensions, where did it originate from?

[royal crow]

[royal crow]

Destination

[karmic vale]

But we have two maximum, other ones us wasn't so stupid to bring it in our world or?

[royal crow]

or maybe we werent able to

[honest summit]

Could it be related to the Hammersteins Project?

[royal crow]

the crystals come from Destination

[honest summit]

Yeah ik. I mean the OG Matter Wave

[coral gorge]

The „core” of the MWP was found in the inner im p sure, and then Hammerstein and his team managed to reverse engineer the casing for it and warp gates

[eternal talon]

Yes

The actual device is within the big cylinder

The cylinder itself is branded with Project Insight... something that obviously wouldn't be the case for a collector device

The teleporters themselves... we have no idea. Either completely human made, or created by studying designs from within the vessel

[rapid olive]

Are the nightmare variants from a distinct timeline, or just later discovered in deeper sections of facility?

[royal crow]

a later stage of the sleepers i guess

[rapid olive]

IS R8A2 Secondary just an easter egg? Strange that you get wiped same as R8E1.

[royal crow]

yes

[cunning light]

"What if the OG team took the wrong turn in R8 story ?"

(is basically what it is)

[raw terrace]

it could be a distinct timeline enemy that merges into ours considering our first sight with it is going through dimensions with datacubes
but it could be both, just a mutation or just dimensions

[coral gorge]

i think its a super advanced form of sleepers thats only present in the nightmare wordline cause it is simply a much older wordline, and then they get yeeted into the R8 spaghett

[honest summit]

So basically, the good ending for the Alt group?

[cunning light]

Nobody wins in this version ^^

[coral gorge]

i mean... its possible OG scheaffer would still kill ALT scheaffer and fuck ALT team in one way or the other

[honest summit]

if shaeffer never learns the existence of the Alt shaeffer, he never goes to the reservoirs to interfine him tho

[cunning light]

OG Schaeffer would still need to go through the events of B3 and B4, to start the chain reaction

[coral gorge]

ehhhh he kills Henrikson in/after A2

he is already insane

plus he learned of ALT team largely on his own it seems

so he may very well find out about them either way

imagine an alternate R8 where after OG teams demise, OG scheaffer gaslights ALT team into following him

[honest summit]

Alt team would have been sent to recover the datasphere tho, so in this version we will (probably) meet him face to face

[cunning light]

Looking forward to see that in GTFO 2 : Schaeffer boogaloo

[coral gorge]

kek

GTFO 2 is just a remake of GTFO

where they try to make the story more coherent

[cunning light]

Prequel

[honest summit]

I loved the part whrere he said Its shaeffering time, and Johned all over the sleepers

[coral gorge]

tbh playing during gargantas collapse would be pretty interesting

[coral gorge]

and piped the sleepers

[cunning light]

You end up being the team with Hammerstein who triggered the huge blast

[coral gorge]

that would be pretty sick tho

like the first mission is the blast

and then you are going largely on your own trying to get out of the complex

[honest summit]

we need a scene of Hammerstein creating our Sledgehammers

[coral gorge]

we need a scene of Hammerstein getting his ass kicked

[royal crow]

sus

[honest summit]

[coral gorge]

tf you mean

you're sus

[eternal talon]

Honestly this is really the only thing I think could work for another gtfo game

[honest summit]

Get The Fuck In

The collectors side of view on how the Virus spread across the multiverse

[opaque crown]

Would enemies be less sleepy and weaker?

If it’s during the outbreak

[honest summit]

All of them are going to be Babies. The Baby bonking Simulator

[rapid olive]

What is the Datasphere 741 we found in R8B4. How does the OG team know to collect it?

[royal crow]

1st: its a data shepere that stores data lol

2nd: OG team hears ALT schaeffer in R8B3

after OG team hears ALT schaeffer hey decided to help the ALT team

[rapid olive]

Right.

So is it canon to do secondary objective, melt reactor?

[royal crow]

yes

[rapid olive]

Just got an achievement, but you get another 'traitor'

[royal crow]

technically all secondaries are canon (except R8A2)

[royal crow]

also this data shepere had data from Project Insight

a research of everything related to the MWP and worldlines

[rapid olive]

Yep

Just curious how the Datasphere is conveniently next to the cooling rod room haha

[raw terrace]

tbh the secondaries dont rlly matter anything for the canon

b1, nothing, b2, nothing, c1, nothing, e1, nothing

[royal crow]

yeah i know
but lorewise we always do them

[raw terrace]

a2, what if, b3, nothing, b4 does do something but if u dont do it schaeffer says he will so nothing

d2, nothing, e2, i guess its the only canon one

[royal crow]

we always do them and without minimal injuries

[rapid olive]

Yes just listening to logs now, schaeffer if you take 'main' on R8B4 he says he will handle it.

[royal crow]

thats how good we are

[raw terrace]

pro gamers

[cold sphinx]

@coral gorge remember that time when hollow knight was good? Yea me too

[coral gorge]

game end yourself kaiser

[cold sphinx]

oh no

[opaque crown]

hollow knight reference

[cold sphinx]

@coral gorge

This is funni

[rapid olive]

Lads assuming end of R8C2 is from the perspective of the warden/schaeffer's view of you. It goes to black because you 'unplug' from the system etc.

[honest summit]

Imagine in D2 and E2 you woould not have any huds and would instead play in the F1 mode

[rapid olive]

Yes just stopped now, going to D2 next.

Tapping F1 removes hud does it?

[honest summit]

F1 or F2. One of them i dont remember which one

[raw terrace]

f1 isnt the races?

[fresh gyro]

hmmmmmmmm

out of context-

[royal crow]

what kind of races?

[fresh gyro]

youre going to get azerted

crazy

[royal crow]

:3

[coral gorge]

life is a race and you are the racist

[fresh gyro]

hm

cubix moment

[cold sphinx]

Life is a silk line and you must do a song on it

I will not stop this bit until you kill me

It is both funny and idk how else do i interact with you

[fresh gyro]

:/

[coral gorge]

say no more

Im gonna fucking find you

[cold sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-hollow-knight-spunchbob-indie-world-indie-game-gif-24146247

Ehe

[coral gorge]

skill issue

[cold sphinx]

Youre funny cubix

[coral gorge]

No u

[cold sphinx]

Find me soon

[plush nest]

opinions on scalers lore vid?

[coral gorge]

@eternal talon thoughts on scaler lore vid

[coral gorge]

Myself: its decent, a bit short. I do kind of disagree with a couple minor points, but only that. Also i wish he actually showed some of the voicelines and whatnot and not just talked about them

[plush nest]

ok ya the same as me then, i feel like it got the main points

[coral gorge]

Yup, i kinda do wish he talked about the minor subplots tho. Like i understand they arent all that important but they are still cool

[plush nest]

ya but they do all have their place in the overal story and do affected it in small ways

[coral gorge]

Like the WHO mission or what Scheaffer was like before the collapse of garganta

and a couple others

but hey, atleast we got the lore vid

[royal crow]

Scaler didnt talked about the whole thing?
What a lazy guy

😔

[coral gorge]

Its mostly a rundown of what was the purpose of garganta and then the actual plot of the game

That saying… i never realised that the unit ALT scheaffer talked to, said that the collectors were exiled for 65 million years aka since the day they crash landed on earth

or that the zone Henrikson wanted to meet us in was the first zone in B3

[royal crow]

Near the bloody pipe and ID

[coral gorge]

Yeah

[royal crow]

So if thats actually Henri in the ID picture.....

[coral gorge]

the bloody id is in the adjacent zone

[coral gorge]

I think it has to be, no matter if the numbers dont match up

also i will forever defend my idea that the OG squad breaks free from Scheaffer on their own, without any warden influence

[royal crow]

?????

[raw terrace]

tbh i wouldnt be surprised they just didnt expect the players to see the id from so up close, i imagine they just like saw it was blurry enough for not even a sniper to see it

[royal crow]

They break on their own tho

🤨

[coral gorge]

Scaler says that the warden made them break free

[royal crow]

?

[coral gorge]

Yeah probably

[royal crow]

Bro

The warden text is white
And we are not under the warden control anymore

[raw terrace]

i mean its normal seein how the warden text does appear saying 'remove ur control chip'

it did appear on blue

which is the color warden uses with the second half

[coral gorge]

The thing is… the warden wouldnt have us remove our chips i feel like

[raw terrace]

or on red i dont remember

[coral gorge]

no, blue is objectives OG team gives themselves

[royal crow]

Isnt remove control chip on blue?

[raw terrace]

seems weird they- out of a sudden control biocom messages just with their chips

[coral gorge]

like if it already had control over OG squad in C2, it would just keep them or whatever. Like it didnt need to make OG team basically a wildcard

[royal crow]

It doesnt make any sense

Oh well

[coral gorge]

Id say they dont actually controll it. Its just that our chips no longer actually have a working objective stack and its just a visual gameplay thing

[royal crow]

It really doesnt change anything

In the end we scape and eventually die

:3

[raw terrace]

maybe- as schaeffer was holdin biocom, the alt warden- or any really- saw it was just better to disconnect us from the root rather than to try n control us back knowin schaeffer implanted that trojan

just like a 'trying to prevent the bigger dmg'

as we were doing awful shit

[coral gorge]

Overall the whole chip „removal” is weird
Since we dont actually remove the chips, just kinda disconnect them from the main grid or whatever

[coral gorge]

i mean we still did awfull shit afterwards

[raw terrace]

not rlly, we help the other team once we start to break out and then when we disconnect we just kinda wander around
we try to stop schaeffefr even, rlly the awful shit only comes to the very end

when theres no other 'choice' for the characters

[coral gorge]

ehhh

OG always had a choice

they didnt HAVE to leave Alt behind

but they did

[raw terrace]

yeah- tbh even with all the impressive writing on r8 on tying the story together- some character stuff its a bit out of nowhere

but well

idk i guess schaeffer manipulated us into rlly thinkin they would hate us idk

[coral gorge]

that plus honestly, i think even without that Og would still leave ALT behind. Like at the end of D2, bishop has a voicelind that says „its us or them now and i pick us”. And then in E2 they say that they need to get the cubes from Alt team „before they get overrun” which id say implies they only see them as means of getting the cubes

like dont forget, all the characters were pretty fucked up in one way or the other

even before the garganta shit

[rapid olive]

Asked earlier, what are your thoughts on R8C2 - the ending fades to black instead of running to an extract. Does it fade, because no one can no longer see our feed?

[raw terrace]

probs no cause we still see it up in d2

[raw terrace]

i guess that's true

[rapid olive]

Agreed. But it is unusual we dont run to an extract.

[raw terrace]

they know themselves better than we do

[rapid olive]

Similarly R8A2 secondary..

[raw terrace]

tbh it was probably for cinematic purposes, but the real answer is probs we fight we get on a lift and we go away

and a2 it's just a what if

it's non canon

[rapid olive]

Felt like a dream sequence..

[raw terrace]

it kinda is made to be one

a funny what would've happened in hammerstein had all the power he wanted

it's a good way to make his character even more hateable and how truly evil he can be

[royal crow]

Im pretty sure the lift is for gameplay purposes

We just walk to R8D2

And from D2 to E2

[rapid olive]

Right, no longer using the HSU pods etc/

Even though the opening 'loading' is always the POD drop.

[raw terrace]

i mean i doubt it considering they are at different like deep levels

[royal crow]

Yeah so whos gonna get us from the HSU then?

[raw terrace]

mh i was gonna say the warden but idk if both wardens are there or ones just still dying cause trojan

and the other idk if it would even want to pick us up

i guess it has no like issue to take one team or the other, it just wants one to live

the who it's completely and utterly insignificant

[royal crow]

OG warden is troyan'd
Alt warden is helping ALT team i doubt he would help us at all

[raw terrace]

i mean the warden just rlly wants humans to live cause sure

i don't think it wants one or the other, at the end we both have the same record of being rlly good

[royal crow]

Are You sure he wants humans to live and just not get rid of us?

[raw terrace]

eh one or the other it doesn't change the fact we are the same people and like maybe it just thinks "sure these ones have a better chance"

knowin our plan

[rapid olive]

Yes the Warden overall wants to p reserve human life, and take the non infected to an ew membrane without the HAMV aids virus.

[royal crow]

Too bad we carry the virus

[raw terrace]

[nam-v]

[also wdym aids]

[old oar]

The virus dies from the HSU pods though

[royal crow]

And the KDS Deep piece we warp with US also has the virus

[raw terrace]

use but we get the virus when we get out of it

[royal crow]

Yeah but its EVERYWHERE

[rapid olive]

However its methods are crude.. as an AI would be when trying to preserve the human race no matter the costs.

YEs it is not clear, the OG team warping into new membrane (Jngle) would have had the aids already. So rip new world.

[raw terrace]

ur welcome durant :3

[royal crow]

If they didnt the piece of KDS Deep did

So

:3

[raw terrace]

we should've clipped into another reality inside the walls smh

[rapid olive]

lol

[raw terrace]

fall through the floor

[royal crow]

Durant Will have some real fun

[raw terrace]

durant se divertirá DURANTe nuestra estancia ;D

u get it?

get it?

:3

[royal crow]

Perish

[raw terrace]

:[

[royal crow]

[coral gorge]

A bit late but… i think its just our chips basically „crashing” and disconnecting from the main grid, only to like reboot later (hence we still see our hud and whatnot in D2)

[eternal talon]

is it live!!?? i've been totally not stalking his YT page for days

also holy crap messages batman

over 100

[royal crow]

lorewise speaking
which of the 4th prisioners would be a minecraft addict?

[eternal talon]

no way in hell it would.

even if it wanted us to "be free", they would deactivate when we got out of range

same as what happened to schaeffer and even ourselves in r7d2

why remove that security in case we fuck it up last second?

[eternal talon]

my bet is bishop, probably modded because he was a hacker/programmer

im watching the video now.

[coral gorge]

lmao

[eternal talon]

weird that it starts like halfway through the story, and not ALL the way back, trillions of years ago, as the game wouldn't even occur without the collectors

[coral gorge]

yeah

also im suprised he ignores the OG side of things (like the og EF-01)

[eternal talon]

does he cover the collectors at all?

[coral gorge]

he does

he coveres all you need to know to understand the R8 plot

[eternal talon]

because the story is literally 90% collectors (why it stars and why it ends), and the og team (how we survive)

[coral gorge]

and thats pretty much it i believe

[eternal talon]

alt team is realistically completely irrelavant to the story

[coral gorge]

also frosty quick question

Does project insight get their hands on the MWP and other funky things only after Hammersteins funky experiment? And not before that?

[eternal talon]

by "hammerstein's funky experiment" do you mean the explosion?

[coral gorge]

outside ALT R6 and R8 i guess

[eternal talon]

if so, then yes. it is artifact #13, one of the first.

[coral gorge]

yeah the „lets play some sounds for the sleepers, surely they wont get mad” experiment

[coral gorge]

Oh okay, i dunno why i thought Hammersteins doing was way later

[eternal talon]

artifact candy alone, there are thousands

[royal crow]

CANDY?

[eternal talon]

they look like candy.

[royal crow]

[coral gorge]

its meth

[eternal talon]

like big bricks of sugar glass

[royal crow]

I need 10C to release candy in the shape of artifacts

[eternal talon]

also the ooh piece of candy meme

[coral gorge]

i need 10cc to release artifact shaped meth

i mean what

or lore accurate boosters

[eternal talon]

breaking bad breaking bedrock

[coral gorge]

baking boosters

„My name is John Scheaffer. I live in Garganta, Mexico…”

[eternal talon]

i got no good response to that.

[coral gorge]

(i dont remember the rest of walters speech thingy)

[coral gorge]

Exactly, its the perfect title

[eternal talon]

new mexico, sans the new

[coral gorge]

cant wait for the GTFO movie „Baking Boosters”

[eternal talon]

10:45...
did he just say the virus alone can create sleepers?

https://tenor.com/view/telepurte-pingu-noot-noot-gif-25837050

why does nobody get the basic shit right?

also its not any parasites, its specifically parasitidae garganta and its many subspecies

[coral gorge]

oh yeah right

he didnt say THE parasite

just parasite

[eternal talon]

no, he said parasites

[coral gorge]

Yeah

lol

so frosty, whens your „scaler debunked” video?

=)

[eternal talon]

i dont bother to make lore videos, or any videos for that matter.
i'd be more than happy to fact check any transcript for a video and make sure they are 100% accurate, with sources
making a lore video demands in-depth research. i'm always avaliable to help, so i dont give mercy for people missing basic details that could be resolved in under a minute of text.

[coral gorge]

Yeah i can understand that

[eternal talon]

how hard is it to just post the script of a video for others to analyse to confirm it has the best information avaliable?

[coral gorge]

especially since scalers lore vid had been in the works for a while i think

[eternal talon]

especially before-posting or finishing, when reworking or fixing is too time consuming an effort?

[loud urchin]

I'm trying to find where such a thing is said and I'm not seeing it

[eternal talon]

10:05

even the text he shows on screen specifies parasitidae garganta/hammerstein singular,

yet he says plural

[coral gorge]

He says „the virus would alter the behavior of the host…”

[eternal talon]

which it does...

and it does mutate hosts to a matter of fact, we know this.
but these mutations result in death

they do not turn into sleepers without the parasite.

this is very well known and stated.

[coral gorge]

also, wasnt it 2 guys that got out or am i just delusional

[eternal talon]

the spike mouths, shooter projectiles, and all that, are parasite mutations meant to weaponize the host.

not the cancerous tumors of the virus

[eternal talon]

in what context?

[coral gorge]

2 garganta workers who got out and infected the world

i swear i remember it being 2, but i might just be making shit up

[eternal talon]

i do not remember, but the fact the relaxation camps exposed it to the atlantic ocean would have been a far bigger issue

[coral gorge]

right, sleeper fish

[eternal talon]

which is how it spread to the UK, Florida, and Texas simultaniously

[eternal talon]

no, even in OG worldline

[coral gorge]

tbh i wish we got animal mutations in the game

[eternal talon]

just nam-v infectivity nam-v'ing

[coral gorge]

Also yeah

nam-v fish

[coral gorge]

maybe in GTFO 2

[eternal talon]

look at goldfish with giant ass tumors.

that, but black, and on a larger scale

[coral gorge]

A mutated goldfish enemy where the goldfish itself is like 1% of its total mass

[eternal talon]

i mean the kraken alone appears to be very similar to oceanlife on earth naturally, it'd probably be an easier jump for it than it was to mammalian humans

[coral gorge]

oh right

i keep forgetting destination enemies were also actual organisms before

[eternal talon]

a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago

our earth will be like that. in gtfo, i mean.
those infected human sleepers will remain for virtually forever.

trillions of years

perhaps more

[royal crow]

until a big extinction event i guess

[eternal talon]

likely the sun exploding and consuming the planet will end it before the sleepers themselves would

[eternal talon]

yeah

[warped bloom]

so what are the floating squdids

[coral gorge]

Yeah i mean… what else could actually kill all sleepers?

[royal crow]

aliens

[eternal talon]

you just said it.

[royal crow]

probably

[coral gorge]

Original destination fauna, that got infected and mutated into… stuff

[eternal talon]

well, closer to cuttlefish in terms of appearance

[royal crow]

big gold fish :3

[eternal talon]

the meatballs... nothing even remotely similar in appearance on earth

[coral gorge]

jellyfish?

or octopus maybe?

[royal crow]

cubix, i dont think a jellyfish and a giant flying meatball have something in common

they dont even look similar

[coral gorge]

Okay but listen

[warped bloom]

how are they floating

[royal crow]

bro its a game about a multidimensional virus

[eternal talon]

we have no idea.

[coral gorge]

Dont ask questions about physics

[eternal talon]

likely some form of internal gas

like an air ballast (but obviously not air)

[coral gorge]

nah they are just so skilled they ignore gravity
True chads

[warped bloom]

what about the crystal formations

[eternal talon]

some lighter than air gas, like a more potent helium

or whatever natural element would exist on destination

[eternal talon]

even bigger question.

[coral gorge]

listen:
both have tentacles of sorta
Have a big center body part
And the giant eye thing is smth that the parasite gives basically everything in some form

[warped bloom]

do the squids have that crystal on tem

[coral gorge]

some do i think?

[eternal talon]

seems to power localized teleportation in the case of the floaters consuming them, and intra-dimensional teleportation in the case of the collectors using them in the matter wave projector

[royal crow]

the armored ones?

[eternal talon]

like gtfo's take on Xen crystals

[coral gorge]

and also for some reason the crystals like to fuse with wires

[warped bloom]

can they fuse to the squids

[eternal talon]

not visible, if any. unknown.

[eternal talon]

floaters use the krakens as a form of aircraft carrier, so to say.

as seen in boss fights

oh

you meant the crystals

[coral gorge]

lmao why did i just picture an irl carrier with fucking flyers as its airplanes

[warped bloom]

well from close upit looks like they have some sort of rocks on them

[warped bloom]

i mean the flyer

[warped bloom]

yea the black stuf

[coral gorge]

why do the flyers look so… HD

[eternal talon]

max settings

also zoomed fov

[coral gorge]

Ah

i forget how this game looks like on max settings

[warped bloom]

so whats the black stuff on their heads

[loud urchin]

ADS has its set fov for each weapon independent of your regular fov, no?

[eternal talon]

the crystals

[loud urchin]

or did you have a mod for that

[warped bloom]

ok so cant they just use the crystals to float or something

[coral gorge]

As far as we know

rocks dont float

[warped bloom]

well they teleport

[coral gorge]

im not a physicist alright?
But i dont think rocks float

[eternal talon]

no, like i legit just went into settings and turned down my field of view

[coral gorge]

dare i say teleporting and floating are diffrent things

[eternal talon]

i was using an exploit to take these pics, door cheese

[warped bloom]

yea but how do they teleport then

[loud urchin]

and then aimed down sights which ignores what you have your fov set to

[eternal talon]

(also heavily cropped images)

[coral gorge]

q u a n t u m m a g i c

[warped bloom]

well u can float with quantum magic

[coral gorge]

can you now?

[warped bloom]

yup

[eternal talon]

littlest black holes

[coral gorge]

last time i checked shrodingers cat didnt fly

[eternal talon]

or whatever the fuck that is

[coral gorge]

wormhole i guess?

[royal crow]

they have their own little MWP implanted on them, damn

[warped bloom]

probably wormhole

[loud urchin]

you don't whether it's flying or not unless you observe it

[eternal talon]

they consume the crystals.
the mwp uses the crystals as a power source

[coral gorge]

frog you, i thought no one would realise

[warped bloom]

is there a wiki page on the crystals cant find it

[royal crow]

listen
what if the fliers also uses the crystals as a power source to warp

[eternal talon]

floaters can only travel via local (within worldline)
the mwp is able to go between worldlines

(hence no floaters in the game before r6b1)

[coral gorge]

I mean considering that crystals are what makes shit warp around, they kinda do

[warped bloom]

well maybe thats cause floaters dont have reactors attached to them

[coral gorge]

And in R6B1 its specifically because the warden sucks and didnt terminate the quantum tether fully so they just follow us

[eternal talon]

well i mean they got to earth via the portal we left open in r6b1... thats what presumably r6c3 was for, and d1 has us with the mwp back

[warped bloom]

are u sure the crystal is the power source and not just like a catalyst

or like a thing u put all the power into

[coral gorge]

Tbf we dont even know if crystals need any power, they might just… do shit.
Like Outer Wilds quantum rocks

[eternal talon]

technically
we dont know how the human-made teleporters work,
nor the collector ones that we have never even seen that allowed their vessel to travel

so i cannot say

could be either.

it is the data cubes though, that actually tell it where to go

[warped bloom]

they project matter waves

[coral gorge]

tbh i really wish we got more info on the human made jump gates. Like you cant just drop a bunch of cool names and leave it at that

like how the fuck do you make a quantum tether

[eternal talon]

every worldline vibrates at a different frequency innately.
the entire worldline/universe.

the difference is what the mwp detects.

it changes your freuquency to match the target worldline's.

thus enmeshing you into it.

[coral gorge]

and dont get me started on radio communication between realities like how the fuck

[eternal talon]

you don't really travel

[coral gorge]

Yeah you dont move, its more like the world around you moves

[warped bloom]

maybe the vibration of the photons

[coral gorge]

the fucking what now

[eternal talon]

studying the collector shit in the inner that we never got to see...

[warped bloom]

the particle

[coral gorge]

L

[warped bloom]

its frequency changed just like the mwp does

[coral gorge]

forever in our hearts

[eternal talon]

brother in christ, thats how you change radio frequencies

[warped bloom]

no not the frequency

just the particle itself

[coral gorge]

But how do you make a radio signal, which is already a vibration, CHANGE THE VIBRATION without affecting the message

[eternal talon]

its the speed and hoopi-ness of the waves

[warped bloom]

i dont mean the wave i mean the particle itself

[eternal talon]

that you tune into

[coral gorge]

id say thats still super hard

[eternal talon]

we barely know how the quantum frequency stuff works. its really not explained

[warped bloom]

well thats the only explanation i can make up for radio waves going through different dimensions

i mean worldlines

[coral gorge]

also, wouldnt it be possible for the message to arrive in parts too?

like you cant send the whole message through at once

[eternal talon]

depending on the speed of the worldline the message is traveling to, it could arrive months after it was sent to you and the team is already gone

[coral gorge]

so you would end up getting like one word per day or smth

[eternal talon]

each worldline has its own set of rules

[coral gorge]

And it could arrive in parts too. So you need to wait another month for the rest of the message

[eternal talon]

yeah, just reaaaaallllly slow if that is the difference between the progenitor and the target

[warped bloom]

the what now

[coral gorge]

anyway frosty hows the scaler vid going

[eternal talon]

progenitor is a big fancy word that means original, where the message came from, in this case

[eternal talon]

i stopped watching.

[coral gorge]

=(

sad

[raw terrace]

:[

[eternal talon]

currently listening to grasp of avarice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2ncuVcPfs&list=LL&index=26

[royal crow]

excision has the best soundtrack in destiny

:3

[coral gorge]

why is someone grasping avarice

[royal crow]

loot
lore wise people fought and killed each other for loot

[coral gorge]

or why is avarice grasping someone

[eternal talon]

nothing will ever beat long live the king. they peaked YEARS ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Zt40GOj4Q

[royal crow]

LITERALLY loot

[coral gorge]

Just like me in yugoslavia =)

i mean what

[coral gorge]

very realistic ill admit

[royal crow]

mf fought for a rare engram (rare loot that isnt even that good)

[royal crow]

nah

[coral gorge]

Yup sounds about right

[royal crow]

Final Shape has a better OST

[eternal talon]

HERESY

[royal crow]

IT DOES

WITNESS BOSSFIGHT, EXCISION, SALVATION EDGE

[coral gorge]

oh no we fell into the destiny rabbit hole
Lore chat is doomed

[royal crow]

those activities have the best soundtrack in destiny history

And the Make your own fate 12/10 better than anything else

[eternal talon]

https://tenor.com/view/oryx-the-taken-king-gif-4119939634304099031

[royal crow]

https://youtu.be/ZPRUgS2De1g

[eternal talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F9Nvxyt9t8

[royal crow]

https://youtu.be/Qe5rMUSTEYw

[coral gorge]

this is just 2 destiny fans throwing soundtracks at each other to see whos the bigger fan

jesus

[royal crow]

in the end
we all know all of Destiny soundtracks slap

[fresh gyro]

GTFO lore ????

Let's go

[royal crow]

i would say Rise of Iron, Taken King, Forsaken and the Final Shape are equally good

maybe Witch Queen too

but eh

[eternal talon]

i mostly agree with this

but god did i love prison of elders, even if the rest of HoW was shit

[royal crow]

I dont remember much of HoW

[eternal talon]

but you remember PoE

[royal crow]

Prision of Elders?

i do

[amber solar]

UWU

Lmao.

I FOUND IT!

[royal crow]

UwU

[stone wasp]

this is a massive find for the established lore of gtfo

[peak jay]

Aight

This was probably answered a while ago but I have walnut brain so

Did the Warden take over Biocom or replace it in some way? If not, how does it control the prisoners and lifts and stuff and if so, why doesn't it just unlock every door in the facility?

Could've led all the sleepers into a massive meat grinder or something

[raw terrace]

go pablo new lore master

[royal crow]

wdym lore master

alright i will trt to explain ;3

[raw terrace]

ur lore master now

[peak jay]

Teach me the ways

[royal crow]

It took over biocom
and he does have access to the elevators and controls the prisioners with their chip that have implanted in their heads

now the reason on why he just doesnt unlocks every door is simply because garganta systems are screwed, thats why he needs us to restart reactors and place cells to open doors/areas

[loud urchin]

not direct control, mind you - but giving orders through the objective stack

[royal crow]

he cant simply reboot a reactor with just using biocom

he needs personal to do it

[loud urchin]

there's some lore, like the fact that the reason there's an error alarm in r2c2 is because another team refused orders and died

[raw terrace]

i always compared it to like manipulation as u make the person want to do the thing
that seems to be it for the most part, and when advanced it becomes very much just direct control as the person doesnt remember shit

[royal crow]

and basically doing whatever they are tasked to
so its control/manipulation anyways

[loud urchin]

yeah, coercive control, not mind control

[royal crow]

i never said it was mind control

[loud urchin]

i know, but i wanted to clarify

maybe coercive control is the wrong phrase to use given its real world use

[peak jay]

So basically Garganta is fancy but not fancy enough for remote override stuff, and the Warden gives the prisoners remote orders instead to do in-person override

[royal crow]

im pretty sure not having remote override on reactors could be for security porpuses

imagine someone actually hacking biocom and turning everything off

now that could be funny

[peak jay]

Schaeffer my beloved

[raw terrace]

i think it was, back in those days
but due to kovac aumenting security based on creaturas and virus and biocom trying to fight the warden... its just much harder to do them so it might just be easier to send teams to do that

i mean there things sometimes the warden cant even do, like r7c1 it fails for a while to open extract

[royal crow]

the warden just sucks using biocom tbh

a fucking Alien cant beat a windows 10 program

😔

[cunning light]

It is supposed to be "un-hackable", at least that is what one of the people who designed it say. Little did they know.

[royal crow]

and im pretty sure in other levels he fucks up the interdimensional tether and leaves us stranded in Destination

[raw terrace]

teehee

[peak jay]

Wait

If the warden came in after the facility was made then what means warden doors aren't actually called warden doors

Fictional video game once again ruins my day

[royal crow]

they are actually called Apex doors

if you mean the big big doors

[peak jay]

Yeah those with the triangle

[royal crow]

yup, Apex doors

[warped bloom]

Boring name

[warped bloom]

Small apex door

[olive birch]

i call it fucking cool door

since r1c2

[royal crow]

@raw terrace

[cold sphinx]

@coral gorge

[coral gorge]

Dont cat me kaiser

[cold sphinx]

[toxic wagon]

(Yes I am working on a fucking Saturday kaiser)

(They made us work today so we can have the Friday after July 4th off.

I also didn't realize this is lore channel

[coral gorge]

lol
Skill issue?

[toxic wagon]

I'm here from waking up at 3am for work

On saturday

[coral gorge]

jesus

w h y

[cold sphinx]

Wow

I had the same thing like last month

[thick ridge]

Can scouts get pregnant?

[raw terrace]

no