#gtfo-lore

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burnt wren
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Unless we canonically flawlessed that shit whtout getting hit, bitten or scratched once but somehow i really doubt that

eternal talon
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There most certainly is, otherwise how would we wake at the start of ever level in the middle of a giant ass pit?

The main thing is doubting weather or not they would have the resources to do it that way. We know there is a limit, because shaeffer had to do it manually with Maddox but didn't because he didn't know.

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So maybe it is direct connection with biocom for it to be automatically administered? Who knows

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Devs wrote themselves into a corner. Literally deus-ex machina'd their way into what is honestly probably THE most deadly virus in video game HISTORY, maybe even science fiction as a whole

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Infection as a mechanic isn't nam-v. We know this because of the syringes, which were shipped in from off-site yet still had the same viral effect

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Probably just some other kind of poison/infection

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Much less mundane than nam-v

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(Also disinfect packs and stations would do literally nothing if it were nam-v)

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(And before you say bodies, they've made that mess even more complicated in ALT//)

White In Gameplay: dissolve
White in Lore/scenery: don't.

Red in gameplay: dissolve
Red in lore/scenery: dissolve

All other variants known both dissolve in gameplay but not in lore. Only the red "blood door" subspecies of parasite we have confirmation actually canonically disintegrate

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We have names for a ton of different subspecies, but I do not have them on hand.

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It'd be against the whole point of the symbiosis for them not to. The parasite gives the virus an infinite fuel source. That fuel would be wasted/pointless if it couldn't continue to transmit between hosts and evolve

eternal talon
plush nest
royal crow
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dead space vibes

plush nest
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you are the enemy

honest summit
honest summit
warped bloom
plush nest
toxic wagon
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Imagine if we had a regenerating enemy like in RE and Dead space

royal crow
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the closest thing we have to the hunter (regenerator in dead space)

toxic wagon
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:/ if only Pablo wasn't so easy to babysit

plush nest
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It’s literally just a chore for the one person

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And it’s unpaid

royal crow
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especially if you run cfoam

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Pablo loves c-foam

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(i replied to the wrong message)

plush nest
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I honestly didn’t know you could sea foam him

royal crow
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you can
but not worth it

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it lasts a couple seconds

plush nest
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I assume doesn’t last long

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Ya

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I still need to complete r7e1

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Not looking forward to it

royal crow
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its fun

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not that hard

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honestly

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its just a bit harder than R2E1 but not too much

plush nest
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Still need to do r2e1 as well

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Haven’t really done any e tiers

royal crow
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good luck man

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E tiers are a massive step up from the average level

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(R8E1 doesnt count)

plush nest
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Ya I noticed going from d to e, d tiers are fun

plush nest
vestal haven
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guys what is the shit in the nightmare dimension

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the floating dust

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why is it just the upside down

royal crow
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i guess

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really really concentrated particles of the virus

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idk
im not a biologist or whatever

burnt wren
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I believe this is called "spores"

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Which is a whole other rabbit hole...

eternal talon
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Also it'd honestly be really close in terms of infectivity. Iirc, in both canons, neither could really be stopped via cure or such

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It's just that whichever between the two is slightly better will end up curbstomping the other

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It isn't a battle of guns and infection forms (unless you add the parasite into the mix), it's literally just petri dish warfare

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next scroll
gusty wagon
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actually, don't worry about it i still have to finish R1

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these R2 sgenanigans are beyond my purview rn

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ive got C tiers down but for some reason the B-tier PID search is kicking me and my friends' asses

eternal talon
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... then why are you in the lore channel lol?

You couldn't go to a more spoiler-y place

royal crow
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at least the first half of the level

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R8E1 is just a C tier in disguise

royal crow
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:)

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thats all you have to know

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you are still very far from him

plush nest
plush nest
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loud urchin
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that's where act 2 of r8 comes in

next scroll
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but instead they just did a „this is only in the last rundown (R8E2) and still it felt mid

loud urchin
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act 1 is the appetiser that's there so everyone can get a ending

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then you get the rest which is the ending I guess

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I don't particularly care for it though

next scroll
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I know that it has in the name of the rundown (Duality) so i would expect that there would be an obvious meaning in it

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i just think that the last E tier missions could’ve gone up a notch, especially E1

eternal talon
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I think an e tier that was impossible to complete would be really funny

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(Not in the gameplay sense of refusing to spawn a key for a door needed to progress, but just impossible odds with near zero resources)

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plush nest
plush nest
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In one of the r8 levels it mentions open bulkheads but we don’t see any? So what was the point in mentioning open bulkheads?

eternal talon
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i dont remember that, but assume it meant sec doors

plush nest
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Like secondary doors?

royal crow
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secondary or overload

plush nest
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None are open I think it was in b1 or 2

final sentinel
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Iirc

plush nest
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Ah

final sentinel
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Could be wrong, but I remember hearing that

coral gorge
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it was supposed to fool the warden into thinking the reactor meltdown was just a drill

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and probably to also increase the range of the meltdown

coral gorge
royal crow
coral gorge
royal crow
coral gorge
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okay lets stop now

royal crow
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no

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r7e1 today

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and dont fuck up stealth

coral gorge
modest relic
modest relic
brazen willow
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Heya. Im doing a quizshow and wanted to do a lore segment aswell

Anyone got some potentially interesting (and some rly difficult) questions (and answers)?
d4rkevpeek

royal crow
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uuuuh

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you mean difficult in like theory or to understand? or difficult like plot holes?

brazen willow
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difficult to answer (as in less likely for people to know)

coral gorge
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there is only one log explaining it pretty well

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or what happened to the WHO mission that entered garganta

royal crow
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You can talk about Schaeffer team i guess

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before all the main events of the game

royal crow
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:3

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did your house get nuked yesterday?

royal crow
coral gorge
eternal talon
coral gorge
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frosty is cooking

royal crow
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she has been typing for 10 mins now

coral gorge
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yup

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we are about to see a question about quantum physics or smth

eternal talon
# brazen willow Heya. Im doing a quizshow and wanted to do a lore segment aswell Anyone got som...
  1. What is the name of the subspecies of Parasitidae Garganta that create "Scouts" A: Gallus Capreolatus (7GY-HYP-SDW)
  2. What was the name of the scientist that worked with Hammerstein to analyze the first artifact collected from the fossil? A: Richtofer (DSA-61M-MGB)
  3. Where did the NAM-V virus first make landfall after escaping Garganta via ocean currents? A: Maricopa/Florida (MSR-4V3-N24)
  4. What is the name of the hyper-advanced species of aliens that created the fossil, inner, and inadvertently exposed the parasite and virus to earth? A: The Collectors (MQQ-792-B8L)
  5. In rough terms, what is the total length of the fossil, from apex to nadir? A: 2,215m (+ or - 372m) (WKRP-817-CIN)
eternal talon
brazen willow
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holy shit musicmommyOMEGALUL

eternal talon
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and logs to quote with answers

royal crow
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OKAY OKAY

eternal talon
coral gorge
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i knew answers to like 3

brazen willow
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ill note those down
for now i only used lore questions for easy stuff >:D but i gotta remember for later

royal crow
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we need more Gallus Jaculus

coral gorge
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lol

coral gorge
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true

eternal talon
brazen willow
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weeeeeell LUL

eternal talon
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so i went straight to the corners of obscure lore

brazen willow
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ye easy is stuff like where can you find henrikssons id badge

mortal pivot
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Next time just DM those to Darkeva

mortal pivot
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Otherwise someone could easily cheat

royal crow
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🔥

brazen willow
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ye

royal crow
brazen willow
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ill add stuff whenever for future sessions

mortal pivot
brazen willow
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i got 3 rdy for tmrw

coral gorge
honest summit
eternal talon
mortal pivot
eternal talon
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fair enough, i didnt plan to anyway

mortal pivot
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No hate, it's just like it is

eternal talon
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just memeing

mortal pivot
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I assume there will also be something like a 10 sec timer on each question, making cheating a bit hard

honest summit
eternal talon
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it isnt.

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this is ogr6 from launch of ex

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they patched it within a week

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i just have literally everything

honest summit
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An lol

coral gorge
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actually, is this board also in ALT R6CX?

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id assume no

honest summit
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It is

eternal talon
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no, iirc the tile itself had it fixed to un-cross maddox

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unless they duped the tile for that one element

coral gorge
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weird?

honest summit
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Last Time i checked it was there. Why would Alt Shaeffer need it? Idfk

eternal talon
brazen willow
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can always work with them in the future

royal crow
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how many people do schaeffer kills with his metal pipe?

brazen willow
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stuff for tmrw is just set up already

royal crow
coral gorge
eternal talon
coral gorge
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lol

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no

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thats a bat skin

eternal talon
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just two confirmed iirc, og maddox and alt// henri

coral gorge
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change my mind

coral gorge
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oh wait

eternal talon
coral gorge
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ALT scheaffer too

eternal talon
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meant the unit

coral gorge
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ah

eternal talon
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in r6cx

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/ dx

coral gorge
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yeah

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doesnt alt scheaffer also get beaten with a pipe?

eternal talon
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also in both cases, he left the pipe behind, so he's got a stash of lead pipes somewhere

honest summit
eternal talon
coral gorge
eternal talon
coral gorge
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lol

eternal talon
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henri, in r8

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which isnt even //alt

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oh my god

coral gorge
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yeah

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actually

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have we got a name for R8s wordline?

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that isnt "R8 wordline"

eternal talon
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"the clusterfuck worldline"

coral gorge
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lol

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i suggested "omega wordline" a while ago

honest summit
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Everywhere at the end of nowhere

coral gorge
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spaghett wordline

royal crow
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R8 is cubix's basement

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trust

eternal talon
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given the presence of destination terrain on earth in r8, does that mean literal galexies are smashing together?

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what are the implications of this

coral gorge
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seems like it

royal crow
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maybe just the places we used the MWP to travel to?

eternal talon
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when desti in its own worldline was 3k light years away in the butterfly neb

coral gorge
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i mean

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do geographical locations matter for the MWP?

royal crow
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nothing matters

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everything is fucked

honest summit
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So in total, we have at least 4 confirmed wordlines merging? OG, Alt, Nightmare and florida

coral gorge
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yeah then really, it doesnt matter wether destination is 10000000 kilometers away or 1 meter away

coral gorge
eternal talon
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+3

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min

royal crow
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since you can see multiple dead bodies

eternal talon
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3-4 for corpses, og, alt, desti, nightmare wl

honest summit
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We do See Dead bodies in previous rundowns aswell tho

coral gorge
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you could also make a point about bishops mask

royal crow
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what does it mean? who knows

coral gorge
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and thats another worldine

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and whoever is making morse code in ALT R1D1

royal crow
honest summit
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Shaeffer i think. At least thats what the achivement says

eternal talon
coral gorge
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i mean yeah but wtf is he doing there in R1?

coral gorge
royal crow
coral gorge
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cant wait for the final lore video where scaler reveals he is actually scheaffer

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wait

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didnt i say this before in scalers discord too?

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what if its true

honest summit
coral gorge
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...

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ah yes

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i too love banging my-...wait no. I too love hitting myself with a pipe in such a way it makes morse code

royal crow
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you too?

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ey

hardy scaffold
coral gorge
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holy shit its a scaler

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random scaler cameos in official gtfo discord server part... i dunno like 5?

royal crow
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wdym random

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🤨

coral gorge
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shush

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random not random

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whats the diffrence really

royal crow
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you know whats the difference between shooting and a missclick?

coral gorge
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a

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stfu

eternal talon
coral gorge
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wow

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i got wikipediad

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how the mighty have fallen

royal crow
coral gorge
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ehhhh id argue its worse

honest summit
coral gorge
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pablo is reffering to a very "funny" accident that may have doomed one of our R7E1 runs

royal crow
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he misscliked and alerted 2 scouts

coral gorge
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for future i wont be holding a hel revo in a scout room

coral gorge
honest summit
royal crow
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that never happened

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there wasnt a mom

coral gorge
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there was

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you bitch

royal crow
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nope

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are you sure?

coral gorge
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i am sure

royal crow
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sure sure?

coral gorge
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i will not be gaslit

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THERE IS VIDEO EVIDENCE

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STOP TRYING TO GASLIGHT ME

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=)

royal crow
coral gorge
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no u

royal crow
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:c

coral gorge
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=)

royal crow
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you will missclick and hit the red one

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uwu

eternal talon
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where this guy hidin' the past 5 years?

coral gorge
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he is the c r e a t u r e that was making morse code in ALT R1D1

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im basing this on absolutely 0 evidence so it must be correct

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=)

eternal talon
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i think i did a good job with this. fits the style of gtfo's companies

coral gorge
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isnt dreyfus' loggo in game?

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or was that a diffrent logo

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on reactors and such

eternal talon
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reactors are made by a diff company. lots of minor ones, like nyxos

coral gorge
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ah

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that saying i would really expect dreyfus logo to be ingame

eternal talon
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here is a dreyfus one in-game

coral gorge
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they are the big boss after all

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oh

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i knew there was one

eternal talon
coral gorge
loud urchin
modest relic
vestal haven
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👽

gusty iron
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Is DoW going to be tied to GTFO in any manner, or completely separate?

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in before the heisters are the GTFO prisoners in a different M

vestal haven
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it would actually be so cool to go into the minds of the 4 prisoners

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but I doubt that’ll happen

burnt wren
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At best we'll get a reference like that one L4D mission in PayDay

gusty iron
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Fair enough, and that would be cool. Loved the No Mercy Hospital in PTH

gusty wagon
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through happy neurotransmitters and etc

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i got that dog autism parasite in me

eternal talon
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Have you read the "for dummies" document in the pins?

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It might cover some of that rent with understanding

gusty wagon
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i read it a long time ago but its def changed i imagine

eternal talon
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Unless it's hype of a train that already visited its last station

eternal talon
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Though despite eveything, still no official name for Destination, surprisingly

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Inb4 devs retroactively make that always have been the "official" name

gilded trench
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Fellas

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I've got few questions on this whole thingammabobbin lore I would like to be answered to I don't have an aneurysm solving this

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Any input is greatly appreciated

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  1. How does Warden get created and how does it infiltrate Biocom?
  2. Why do we see dead bodies of ourselves in Rundown 8?
coral gorge
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for point 2:
In R8 several wordlines merge together, resulting in many squads getting thrown together (such as ALT and OG), but also others, which either die mid warp or get fucked shortly after

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as for point 1:
We dont really know. We know the warden is of alien origin or just a straightup alien… but thats it. It gets into biocom possibly through destination and its crystals merging with the cables but we cant be sure

gilded trench
gilded trench
eternal talon
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as far as i am aware, we aren't sure how it got into biocom's servers, either, just that it did. we dont even know when, just a range when it had to have happened

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i think what cubix is talking about are these, but even so, we have no indication that they are in any way related to biocom

plush nest
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There is a log mentioning something about rocks and how they are interacting with the cables

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I could just be crazy though

eternal talon
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as for r8 and the bodies, it is as cubix said. dozens (at least) of worldlines merging together due to the continued misuse of the MWP by our team and others. it started relatively minor, with Insight scientists and such dissapearing during the early years, and obviously coming to a head in r8 with even destination (despite being 3k light years away relative to its own worldline), merging and appearing on earth in the complex via the sand and kraken encounter in e2

gilded trench
gilded trench
eternal talon
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so im not sure of any set point in r8, but if i had to say, i'd probably give it to the bulkhead controller in (i forget the level #), where destination sand appeared

royal crow
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that interesting enough

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we make a small warp on that same place to a worldline where the bulkhead controller isnt destroyed?

gilded trench
coral gorge
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Honestly id say the big merge happens in R8A1/A2 with the big „earthquake” that we hear

coral gorge
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i dont remember where

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but there defo was one

limpid kraken
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Hey, quick question.
What are Snatcher's purpose besides grabbing players and only appearing in couple rundown? What is their role in it?? Is it grabbing corpses and deposing them somewhere?

coral gorge
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nothing too fancy

eternal talon
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The only thing really interesting about them imo is how little they are mutated compared to the other sleeper variants.

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(Don't get me wrong, having a hollowed out chest and tentacles galore is Hella fucked, but the fact their heads are entirely intact is even more fucked when you consider the implications)

next panther
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I guess its mutation all went to its chest instead of its head

limpid kraken
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The question is. What happend to Maddox body.

eternal talon
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R7b1 you hear schaeffer talking about it as you cross the bridge at the very end of the level

eternal talon
burnt wren
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Either eaten or turned into a sleeper. Snatcher out to have a purpose as to why he does what he does.

eternal talon
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Terrifying but good read.

queen gazelle
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How many matter wave projectors in each world line are there

royal crow
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i guess theres originally 1

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and then more get added if someone does funny MWP shenanigans

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and brings another one to the worldline

queen gazelle
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So in r7 was the world line collapse happening already

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like what cause the world lines to collapse

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Was it us just touching the mwp

royal crow
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it could be on purpose
it could be an accident

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too much MWP uses

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by multiple worldlines i guess

queen gazelle
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What is too many here

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because if there is infinite world lines

royal crow
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as far as we know like 12 + worldlines merged into eachother, making Rundown 8

queen gazelle
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Sure idc

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what cause the merge

royal crow
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we dont know

queen gazelle
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This is such a cool story

past matrix
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that was likely caused because of the power-shortages

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but the other ones we have no clue

peak jay
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I always felt like we somehow messed up and managed to grab the mwp from 2 places at once (Bishop's fault) and just end up bringing the entire universe with us

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Like in the not-leg room and the leg room in R8A1

coral gorge
peak jay
# coral gorge the what room

The room it teleports you to with has a bunch of blood and corpses strewn about, but in the middle there's just a single leg

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Was the only thing that kept me sane when I was grinding for the inner achievement

cunning light
eternal talon
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There were a total of four messages yesterday. And only one so far today.

coral gorge
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Lore chat is dead

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rip

peak jay
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I got a question for ya

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Why tf does the warden send us on "survive warden protocol" missions

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Just to randomly throw us in there like "have fun!"

coral gorge
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some other team is doing a mission and we are to distract the sleepers from them

next scroll
long glacier
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I feel like this is a stupid question, but why doesn't the warden just make multiple teams meet up

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I think it has to do with the structuring of ksos in their GTFO lineup right?

royal crow
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KSOs work better in squads of 4

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thats why its always 4 or most of the time

long glacier
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ah yea thats what I thought

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damn

royal crow
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also every KSOs have a designation like GO = GENESIS OPERATIVE (leaders)
i guess having 2 GO can mess up the way they act or work together

lost drum
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Can we count on a Lore Update? Would add more audio logs that are played right in the levels (R6A1, B1, C1, AX, BX, CX). New logs in the levels so there would be motivation to go through them again.

long glacier
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but I just keep thinking, man the missions could just be more successful if we all just teamed

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idk

final sentinel
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yeah that’s less of a lore thing and more of a technical thing lol

long glacier
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yea

toxic wagon
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When you realize. GO's don't always lead the team.

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Woods isn't the GO in the team.

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Bishop is.

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Forgot what Woods is. But it's the anomaly of sorts.

coral gorge
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which are also said to be the leaders in some cases

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which is interesting

harsh pike
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makes sense, i'd definitely consider Woods the leader in the team

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curious how he got designated faulty though

coral gorge
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which is implied to be believing in god

harsh pike
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woods doesn't seem to have lost a lot of his memory IMO

coral gorge
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True

harsh pike
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his log talks about 'other hims' too doesn't it?

coral gorge
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Yup

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the ALT R5A2 one

harsh pike
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and some of his combat dialogue references his military training that he clearly still remembers

coral gorge
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Plus in daudas A3 log he seems to outright disobey the stack

toxic wagon
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He had a voice line about it added with R8

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Woods'll say like. "He walks beside us"

coral gorge
harsh pike
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KSO memory loss is kind of a wishy-washy concept tbh

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its not consistent

coral gorge
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well this chat is dying so how about o throw a random thingy i noticed about R8E1

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the mission „completion” screen says „Resources expended” and im pretty sure only biocom called the KSOs resources

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so can that mean warden fucks off/self terminates at the end?

honest summit
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the explosion did happen in KDS deep tho

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so i assume any lefover ressources just got blasted into smithereens

coral gorge
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I mean i doubt biocom gets killed by the warp, like we only really affect a minor chunk of KDS

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plus another thing is: right before the final waves that are meant to kill you start spawning there is a message „warden defenses disabled” so thats also interesting

honest summit
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wasnt it Kovac defenses system tho?

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i would rather interpretate it as a measurement or a lockdown to protect the KDS deep

coral gorge
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after you enter KDS and deal with the first wave of sleepers

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a message pops up saying „warden defenses disabled”

honest summit
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lemme do a quick run to see it for myself

honest summit
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oh you mean the red warden pop up?

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interesting enough it is called "Warden security systems"

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Hol up

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In D1 the 8AA-FEE-EDD log

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conduit says "A clean membrane will be determined. humans will project, then destroy the projector. The collection will be complete"

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so what hasppened to the OG team was exactly the plan of Warden.

coral gorge
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yeah

honest summit
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and since it was achieved, there were no point in further existemce of warden

coral gorge
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except the warden planned to have ALT team warp out

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but in the end it prolly didnt matter

eternal talon
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the question is, were the alt team killed, or sleeperified?

coral gorge
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why would they sleeperfy

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if we can trust ALT scheaffer they were clean

eternal talon
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because sleepers have never finished us off, ever, when a player is downed

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even though we have always been a direct threat to the hive

coral gorge
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I mean i would assume they do kill us if all 4 players die

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and its just a game mechanic

eternal talon
coral gorge
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plus „resources expended” implies they get murdered

coral gorge
coral gorge
eternal talon
past matrix
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it's likely it wasnt changed for lore reasons but rather just because it would be annoying

coral gorge
coral gorge
eternal talon
coral gorge
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I would sudoku

eternal talon
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but its a pointless task trying to judge the morals of an entirely alien existance

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they arent human

coral gorge
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Or an Ai

eternal talon
#

same difference

coral gorge
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”ITS A FAKE! AN AI”

eternal talon
#

the warden is far less a, than i, though

coral gorge
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I guess

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its weird

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works like a computer program but is super intelligent

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and also sucks at shutting down reactors

eternal talon
#

its a created being, yet it can think and command itself. a proper ai like bicom cannot, simply following its pre-coded instructions

coral gorge
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yeah

eternal talon
#

but then again, that gets to the issue of applying human thought and conscious on an alien being

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who may very well be entirely different

coral gorge
#

also i guess its possible in all the chaos biocom manages to delete the warden? But that seems kinda unlikely and far fetched

eternal talon
#

if it couldnt despite trying for half a decade (at the very least, up to 15 years-ish) , i dont see what would suddenly change now

coral gorge
coral gorge
eternal talon
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kill the host, the parasite dies. it wouldnt give biocom a chance alone. they both get ruined.

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radioactivity and the effects that surround it would absolutely kill both the (BIOLOGICALcom) elements of it, and fry the technological components, even if it were not for the blast itself

coral gorge
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Yeah thats for sure

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i mean either way warden and biocom die

eternal talon
coral gorge
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wether warden dies at the very end of R8E1 or some time after wont make a diffrence

eternal talon
#

mhm.

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same with our kso quad.

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escape or not, the virus will see us dead in the end

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the only difference is who we take with us

coral gorge
coral gorge
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since im pretty sure chernobyl gets fucked after they insert the control rods into the superheated core

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and scheaffer has us heat up the reactor by cutting off coolant and then lower the control rods

eternal talon
# coral gorge since im pretty sure chernobyl gets fucked after they insert the control rods in...

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the show itself provides an amazing explanation of exactly what happened

coral gorge
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ah the good ol memories of using irl lore as refernce to GTFO lore

eternal talon
#

it wasnt an issue of removing the coolant.

coral gorge
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Yeah no in chernobyl its not coolant

eternal talon
#

it was an issue with the (cost saving) graphite tips of the boron control rods making contact first

coral gorge
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ah

eternal talon
#

during an already extremely stressed test

coral gorge
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oh yeah graphite exploded

eternal talon
coral gorge
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Well its a bit similiar then isnt it?

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heat + control rods = explosion

eternal talon
#

not in these types of reactors. RBMK reactors were designed in such a way that an explosion was nearly impossible

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schaeffer, as you say, had us remove the coolant to increase heat and cause a meltdown

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that is like fukushima territory if i remember correctly

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not chernobyl

coral gorge
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i have no idea what happened at fukushima rly so i cant expand on that

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but also

eternal talon
coral gorge
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then why the fuck did scheaffer have us lower control rods

eternal talon
#

couldnt pump coolant because no power

coral gorge
eternal talon
#

reactor went bannanas

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The Fukushima nuclear accident was a major nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Ōkuma, Fukushima, Japan which began on March 11, 2011. The proximate cause of the accident was the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami, which resulted in electrical grid failure and damaged nearly all of the power plant's backup energy sour...

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The proximate cause of the accident was the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami, which resulted in electrical grid failure and damaged nearly all of the power plant's backup energy sources. The subsequent inability to sufficiently cool reactors after shutdown compromised containment and resulted in the release of radioactive contaminants into the surrounding environment.

coral gorge
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ah

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yeah a fair bit similiar

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except the control rods

eternal talon
#

your typical meltdown. not enough coolant

coral gorge
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i guess its supposed to be a mix of both

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wether thats actually possible to happen irl is a diffrent thing

eternal talon
#

wether what is possible irl?

coral gorge
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That a mix of no coolant and lowering control rods would give the reactor a stroke

eternal talon
#

control rods power it. coolant cools it. 1 - 1 = 0

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rods increase reactivity = more power generated

coral gorge
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I mean yeah but

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lowering control rods

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should decreaas reactivity

eternal talon
#

dropping rods into the reactor without coolant would just cause a meltdown

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not an explosion

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the chernobyl explosion was the meltdown vaporizing the pressurized water into steam

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no water, no steam, no boom

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just melt through the floor

coral gorge
eternal talon
coral gorge
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Lol

eternal talon
#

it would ultimately do very little so far underground

coral gorge
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Yeah

eternal talon
#

the only parts of the facility that would even be in any danger would be those below it, where the core would melt through the ceiling

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The Elephant's Foot is the nickname given to a large mass of corium and other materials formed underneath the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, near Pripyat, Ukraine, during the Chernobyl disaster of April 1986, notable for its extreme radioactivity. It is named for its wrinkly appearance, evocative of the foot of an elephant.
Discovered in Decembe...

coral gorge
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Do you have any idea what the „containment vessel” mentioned at the start of R8E1 could be?

eternal talon
#

in what context?

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of the reactor?

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A containment building is a reinforced steel, concrete or lead structure enclosing a nuclear reactor. It is designed, in any emergency, to contain the escape of radioactive steam or gas to a maximum pressure in the range of 275 to 550 kPa (40 to 80 psi) . The containment is the fourth and final barrier to radioactive release (part of a nuclear r...

coral gorge
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”warning containment vessel breached. A nuclear emergency is occuring”

eternal talon
coral gorge
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Oh so its literally just that

eternal talon
#

its the lead housing that protects the powerplant from the radiation of an active core

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it surrounds the entire thing

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its literally the body of the reactor.

coral gorge
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hm then wtf causes all of garganta to have a stroke

eternal talon
coral gorge
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i doubt its some sorta funky chain reaction where smth else explodes

coral gorge
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and they were doing so well too up until the actual meltdown

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cause like theres no way the reactor would produce enough gas and stuff do explode like that

eternal talon
#

Light water graphite reactors
Light water graphite reactors were built only in the USSR. RBMK designs used secondary containment-like structures, but the reactor's top plate was a part of the protective structure. During the Chernobyl accident in 1986 the plate suffered a pressure beyond the predicted limits and lifted up.

CANDU plants
CANDU power stations, named after Canadian-invented Deuterium-Uranium design, make use of a wider variety of containment designs and suppression systems than other plant designs. Due to the nature of the core design, the size of containment for the same power rating is often larger than for a typical PWR, but many innovations have reduced this requirement. Many multiunit CANDU stations utilize a water spray equipped vacuum building. All individual CANDU units on site are connected to this vacuum building by a large pressure relief duct which is also part of containment. The vacuum building rapidly draws in and condenses any steam from a postulated break, allowing the reactor building pressure to return to subatmospheric conditions. This minimizes any possible fission product release to the environment.[9]

Boiling water reactors
In a BWR, the containment strategy is a bit different. A BWR's containment consists of a drywell, where the reactor and associated cooling equipment is located, and a wetwell. The drywell is much smaller than a PWR containment and plays a larger role. During the theoretical leakage design basis accident the reactor coolant flashes to steam in the drywell, pressurizing it rapidly. Vent pipes or tubes from the drywell direct the steam below the water level maintained in the wetwell (also known as a torus or suppression pool), condensing the steam, limiting the pressure ultimately reached. Both the drywell and the wetwell are enclosed by a secondary containment building, maintained at a slight sub-atmospheric or negative pressure during normal operation and refueling operations.

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Pressurized water reactors
For a pressurized water reactor, the containment also encloses the steam generators and the pressurizer, and is the entire reactor building. The missile shield around it is typically a tall cylindrical or domed building. PWR containments are typically large (up to 7 times larger than a BWR) because the containment strategy during the leakage design basis accident entails providing adequate volume for the steam/air mixture that results from a loss-of-coolant-accident to expand into, limiting the ultimate pressure (driving force for leakage) reached in the containment building.

coral gorge
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i mean i guess its possible garganta is fine after all... but that wouldnt make much sense. You dont have a fucking alarm for the entire facility cause a single sector is having a mild stroke. Plus scheaffer wanted to burn the place down not tickle it

eternal talon
#

to "burn it down" he would need waaaaay more than one reactor. ignoring the fact the entire facility is underground, it stretches over an entire city in width

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i mean just look how fucking huge garganta is

coral gorge
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yeah, like i would understand if garganta had one big reactor that powered 99% of it, but one thats shit design and two thats not the case here

eternal talon
#

garganta easily has a hundred or more

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because its not just wide, it goes thousands of meters deep too

eternal talon
#

God damnit now I wanna start a playthrough of my minecraft modpack with big reactors 😠

coral gorge
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lmao

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garganta recreated in minecraft when

royal crow
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now thats something i would like to do

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IF I HAD MINECRAFT

coral gorge
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Skill issue

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||i also dont own minecraft||

burnt wren
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Not on steam = game does not exist

coral gorge
warped bloom
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False

honest summit
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Although after a quick Google Iridium by itself is Not used in nuclear weapons

coral gorge
honest summit
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The Explosion itself would be indeed Insuffitient. But If its big enough it Could provoke some seismik activities collapsing the entire complex

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After all in the ingame universe that Location was already a subject to a massive earthquake that was able to resurface the nam-v Virus hundrets of Meters Beneath the soil

next panther
#

Is R7E1 the deepest level in the game?

solar nova
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Believe so.

lilac island
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it is

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which is a bit dissapointing

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like yeah, not letting us see the deepest darkest most disgusting depths of the complex is an obvious choice since imagination is more terrifying than anything they could make

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but it also left alot of potential down there

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the facility goes way deeper than 1400 meters

long glacier
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I feel like the devs shldve added something for when u get to deeper levels

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u feel the heat

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idk

honest summit
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I find it kinda funny how lower Levels in R8 actually ascend instead of going deeper

lilac island
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yeah i don't like that

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Although R8's difficulty increase comes from the passing of time and not the depth

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like later levels are harder not cause you're deeper but because the complex is falling apart more and more

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i wish i was good enough to enjoy levels like e2

loud urchin
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eh the level isn't all that enjoyable probably, long alarms are boring, enemy spawn is boring, scattergun is boring, cfoam is boring

lilac island
#

i feel incomplete because i'm unable to reliably complete many difficult levels

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what can i tell you

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how can a player be happy unless they conquer every mountain no matter how deadly or unhealthy the climb

eternal talon
#

You become the sage that every new adventurer seeks for wisdom instead.

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In other news, I bought the official hardhat from the merch store today

long glacier
#

gtfo gameplay so bland

eternal talon
#

Red light green light between -- STAND IN SCAN AND SHOOT -- segments. It is very simple at its core

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By the time you've done all expeditions though I'd expect you to be bored as hell of it

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It's why the different levels are so memorable, but even then they aren't that different

fringe crypt
eternal talon
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Like r6c3, it's just run and shoot the entire time

eternal talon
fringe crypt
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Hol on I gotta do some investigating

eternal talon
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They sell baby striker plushies

fringe crypt
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WHAT

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Funny you mention

eternal talon
#

They used to sell gtfo branded diapers

fringe crypt
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I just got my salary

eternal talon
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They sell all kinds of stuff

fringe crypt
eternal talon
fringe crypt
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I see it

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I was just about to mention it

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what the fuck

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but at the same time

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it's beautiful

eternal talon
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"Wash together or dry together" the tags say

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On most clothes

fringe crypt
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No fucking way

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that's cool

eternal talon
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Lots of little nods.

fringe crypt
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YOU CAN BUY AN ICE BOX ???

eternal talon
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I don't know if it's still available. Maybe

cunning light
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I think they are all sold out

eternal talon
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It's based on an in-game locker

fringe crypt
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I know

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it's so stupid I love it

eternal talon
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They have glowsticks

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(Only og worldline green)

cunning light
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I have one ; it is of decent quality, but their clothes are better

final sentinel
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iirc

eternal talon
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And paintings that were a super insanely expensive promotional thing that nobody bought

fringe crypt
eternal talon
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I remember they made a ton that they had devs sign

fringe crypt
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that one doesn't surprise me

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it's cool as hell but a little expensive

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I mean , 35 bucks for a pair of slippers ?

eternal talon
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What was the original price of those paintings btw? $700?

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I don't remember

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The signed ones

fringe crypt
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Dunno

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currently they all go for 420

eternal talon
final sentinel
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it was 420 from the start

eternal talon
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That's ridiculous, really

fringe crypt
final sentinel
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I remember because calle said it'd be a funny number, and I thought he meant 69 compared to the normal 30ish

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not 420

eternal talon
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69,420

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One of one

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The baby striker plush they sell is weird. It's the blood door variant of one, but it doesn't actually exist in-game

final sentinel
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yeah it's also been sold out for ages

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oh no LOL

eternal talon
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I bought mine they day they dropped

final sentinel
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the normal posters are 15$

cunning light
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They are pretty good

eternal talon
final sentinel
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yeah I'd get one of those, really wish they made the background art for R4 a poster tho

cunning light
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The paper is of a much higher quality on the limited ones, I believe

final sentinel
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yeah what cho said

fringe crypt
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400 ?

cunning light
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I do agree the step up is probably too high, but what do I know of artworks ?

final sentinel
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my biggest complaint is that they never made a normal poster for the diamond crew one

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I want that poster

eternal talon
#

The helmet itself is probably just a generic $10 or $20 one, painted with the logo, and resold for $60, but I don't really care.

final sentinel
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but there's only the 420 version

fringe crypt
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Yeah it looks cool

final sentinel
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man if only they made the LRF as merch

fringe crypt
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Even if it came framed with glass , I'd say anything over 150 is too much

final sentinel
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I'd buy that

eternal talon
fringe crypt
final sentinel
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oh yeah, my complaint with the actual clothing is that I don't want to walk around with clothes that say GTFO

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I want like, SMC sweaters

fringe crypt
#

That's actually a good idea

cunning light
final sentinel
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or kovac hat

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i don't want to wear stuff that says GTFO lol, because most people won't get it and will think it stands for get the fuck out

cunning light
final sentinel
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mmmm

fringe crypt
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I've seen someone make a custom mouse pad of the scattergun for their friend

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That looked very cool too

final sentinel
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but like, why can't we get an SMC jackewt

eternal talon
#

instead it stands for Genesis, Tau, Faulty, and I forget the last one

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The kso degs

final sentinel
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I'd love an official SMC jacket

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GO

eternal talon
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Sold out years ago

final sentinel
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bRIh

eternal talon
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Never made more

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Again, in the hardhat promo pictures

fringe crypt
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Send them an email to make you one

cunning light
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Probably only made a few dozens for promotion purposes

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Sadge

fringe crypt
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and you'd pay double

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They might just accept

eternal talon
#

Gtfo is over now, so idk.

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It's going to slowly fade

eternal talon
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Ah yes, GTFS

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Stands for gtfo apparently

coral gorge
#

Sigma is actially O i think?

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or T

eternal talon
#

T is tau

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Hackett iirc

coral gorge
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Hackett is the sigma

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and is the best

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as always

eternal talon
#

I thought dauda was o?

coral gorge
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GO is genesis (bishop)

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F is faulty (woods)

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T is tau (dauda)

eternal talon
#

It's in the for dummies doc, I just can't check on my phone

coral gorge
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? Is sigma (hackett)

eternal talon
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GOFT?

coral gorge
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yeah its weird

eternal talon
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Lmao

coral gorge
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since gensis is GO and not just G

eternal talon
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Genesis operative, despite the fact they are ALL Kovac Security OPERATIVES

coral gorge
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also i think sigma is O

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?

eternal talon
#

Bishop is just a genesis operative operative

coral gorge
#

if the prisoner id matches the letter of the class

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sigma is O

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so the games actual title is

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GOTFO

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or

eternal talon
#

In order?

coral gorge
#

wait no if it would be in order

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then its

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FTOGO

eternal talon
#

Bishop, dauda, Hackett, woods

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Iirc

coral gorge
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yeah ftogo

eternal talon
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Or swap woods and bishop

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I forget which is which

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Either way, NONE OF THEM are gtfo

coral gorge
#

well frosty you gotta become #ftogo-lore now

coral gorge
coral gorge
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like fuck the order even

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just make genesis „G”

eternal talon
#

There

coral gorge
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and thats all you need to have it make any sense

coral gorge
eternal talon
#

Now it sounds like a stroke

coral gorge
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After all these years we finally found the true gtfo

eternal talon
#

Why did 10cc do it this way

coral gorge
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FTOGO

eternal talon
#

It was so easy to just assign a single letter each

coral gorge
#

yeah

eternal talon
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But not only are none of them in order, but there are FIVE LETTERS

coral gorge
#

Tbh screw the order even, just have the letters make any sense

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and not have too many letters

eternal talon
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S = O, and GO

royal crow
#

daily lore message

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did you know

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||schaeffer is schaeffer||

raw terrace
#

omg

ember badger
toxic wagon
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Did you know. No one calls themselves a Hacker but an Engineer

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engineer ~~ Klas is a definitely a Engi Main ~~

eternal talon
#

this just sounds like the gameplay loop of gtfo -- again

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perhaps a future red flag?

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how the fuck is a guns-blazing heist supposed to go back to quiet?

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i am very cautiously optimistic about DoW, but might move lore operations there if it turns out good.

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been burned real bad by Dragons Dogma II recently. DD:DA was one of my all time favorite games, and the sequel butchered it.

vestal haven
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let them cook

raw terrace
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how it can be stealth full and then turn into ferocious combat

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they playing by their strenghts, i like it, they know what gtfo did right very very well and choose to go for it again but bigger better

sudden quarry
#

lets keep things gtfo lore related guys!

coral gorge
eternal talon
#

We are getting single topics
per day at this point. If it is strictly lore exclusive like it used to be, this will just be a dead channel lol

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Now I'm not saying memes should be a thing again, but generic commentary amongst the lore community here is a decent enough way to keep the channel alive

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If someone comes along and sees the last message in this channel was six weeks ago, they aren't very likely to ask any questions they wanted to

peak jay
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Aight I got a question

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What are the lore implications of this image

burnt wren
# peak jay

10c modeler was given tight deadline and thrown out the model as quickly as he could without polish.
Alternatively: mutations do be mutating.

eternal talon
#

Clubbed feet, like their hands.

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Part of the sleeperization process, me thinks

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This fella just died to NAM-V (or anything else for that matter) before a parasite got to him to take control of its new flesh suit

solar nova
raw terrace
#

really

burnt wren
raw terrace
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do you genuinely think the grass on elder ring along with the 7th rock along the path having extremely polish it's the reason why it won goty or something

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not even cause it's feet but just cause it doesn't matter at all if it's a lil poligonal

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hell even with the texture u don't notice it

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unless u, stop, look and center on it

eternal talon
#

Have you ever gone way outside the map in a game and saw vastly different quality textures? Some like 64 pixels, some 1080?

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If that 7th rock is bad, the player WILL notice it

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It will stand out

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Same reason why the r4 tank room Subjects look so god aweful

burnt wren
#

It helps. It shows genuine care for the project.

eternal talon
#

Basically 12 polygons per corpse

burnt wren
#

No one ever points at over-cooked model and laughs at it for being too good.

eternal talon
#

Then compare that to r6cx/dx' Subject corpse. Incredible difference

burnt wren
#

People do laugh at high-poly feet of FromSoft games, but for completely unrelated reasons...

eternal talon
#

I personally don't understand people who mod games for 4k textures. It's not the quality of them as a whole that matters, it's fixing those odd ones out that makes it beautiful

burnt wren
#

That's true. Its not about high polygons, just about visual coherency.

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If your whole game is 4k - why ain't that one corpse.

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If you can't make it work - then downgrade to something else. Stylized games do great.

raw terrace
#

stylized and optimization are way different things
on all games that- think and are logical and aren't garden of bambam, u will see tons of low poly shit, flat textures, things that are on plain sight but they don't have 1080 graphics, why? cause there's absolutely no need to make one screw photorealistic, it just consumes so much more resources for no real reason apart from not looking bad if ur eyes go 2 pixels from it

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this is universal in all games where things that are on the background or on second plane don't matter, why do u think sights, gun models, doors, walls and floors are so high textured but things like corpses, some logos on tanks, water etc etc isn't as high poly? cause there's just no need as u see em quick, they look good at first glance and u continue

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same for enemies, they are so high detailed cause u see em constantly

eternal talon
#

Buddy, this isn't a tiny screw here. You could do a literal single-color dome and it would work. This is a corpse model designed to draw attention and be setdressing

burnt wren
#

I don't even want to engage with that really, i feel like we're talking about completely different things

raw terrace
#

some people don't even notice the door is gone

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they won't notice a low poly foot

burnt wren
#

To hell with polygons

#

Why does it look like a pancake

raw terrace
#

fuck polygons

burnt wren
#

The shape itself is unnatural

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The texture is not a problem at all

#

You can have a lowpoly shitty ass foot, that's fine

#

But you can make it better than this

raw terrace
#

ah that's probs the shape is body horror but low poly

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everything on this games body horror

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except for like r4d2 corpses

burnt wren
#

Well, they did a bad job.

#

That foot's fucking hilarious.

raw terrace
#

eh well as if people didn't laugh of the shooters too kdmskd

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that's just taste i guess

#

if u- like a foot or not

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which is weird to even comment on

burnt wren
#

If this was up to me i'd definetely give him some worker boots.

#

There's a hidden conversation there about where are they now

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Because they are not nearby, i don't see shreds of rubber around or anything

#

What, parasite ate them?

raw terrace
#

sure

burnt wren
#

The half-assery of some things in this game just drives me mad sometimes.

raw terrace
#

if we are so far up the gtfo ass that we are talkin of why some dude boots are missing in an alternate dimension where a massacre has happened

#

sure

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that dimension has a door-boots eating virus kdmskd

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that's just my headcanon now

burnt wren
#

We'll add it to the pile. Its a big one.

raw terrace
#

yeah like where someone's screwdriver was as he's near a door or why are there zone signs made by santonian and some by techno companies

burnt wren
#

No toilets... No kitchens... Not a single resting room of any kind... Not even one rotting hamburger left on a table somewhere or anything... I don't think i've seen a single bottle of water.

raw terrace
#

well there's water on the ground

#

more proof it's amazon

#

they drink from the floodways

peak jay
plush nest
#

food will be given out based on performance one per month

prime horizon
#

Guys I am new to the lore community of GTFO, I tried found more information about mission "Day light", but found just couple lines of text and text from Methew Eron. Did community found more info about them ?

loud urchin
#

which mission now? there's not a level in the game named Daylight

raw terrace
#

whos methew?

spare birch
#

The daylight expedition squad

AFAIK their logs ended after alt R5

RIP Matt Aaron

royal crow
royal crow
#

they simply get shot

#

lol

prime horizon
prime horizon
royal crow
#

zero patient?

#

patient zero is long gone by now
its the person that got out from garganta and spread the virus

prime horizon
#

so why daylight was sent?

royal crow
#

to find information about patient zero

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then got killed by our squad

prime horizon
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bruh, do we have rundown that shows that ?

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or it is based of logs ?

royal crow
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logs

prime horizon
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okay interesting

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so what is the latest update on lore ?

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my knowledge is a bit old

royal crow
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if you mean R8 lore

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then

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yeah its a bit long to explain in detail

prime horizon
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yes my lore is ended at rundown 7

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where I can find info about 8 ?

royal crow
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wiki

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or just playing

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pretty much everything is explained in the rundown

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"explained"

prime horizon
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eh, I just would like to read about, to not miss something

royal crow
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i recommend first to play R8

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then read all the logs or related stuff

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but the main plot is: multiple worldlines merge into each other making rundown 8 its "own" worldline
in here we take control of 2 teams, OG team and ALT team
ALT team works with ALT scaheffer and ALT warden (they try to find a clean dimension to escape to)
OG team is with OG schaeffer (they try to "destroy" Garganta, but OG team breaks out of their control chip and start acting on their own, helping ALT team in the process)

prime horizon
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cool, is it an end of lore in general ?

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of can possible see something new ?

royal crow
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its the end

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the developers dont have any plans on GTFO as far as we know

prime horizon
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sad

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and how I know we won't see GTFO 2, or shit like that

royal crow
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but seeing how GTFO was their first project and can be consider succesful
its most likely in the far future they will do something with the franchise

prime horizon
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I hope so, GTFO one of the game in my list of favorite games

royal crow
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and by far future i really mean far

prime horizon
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yeah no, it dosen't matter how far

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if it will realized i will play it

humble cairn
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is there a general rundown of the story in R8 i'm a bit confused

royal crow
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but i can answer your questions

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if you need

humble cairn
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why does schaeffer get super mad in C2

royal crow
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because we break from our control chips

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he cant control us anymore

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and we start acting with our own will

humble cairn
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didn't C1 schaeffer help us do that though

royal crow
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no

humble cairn
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huh was it henrikson

royal crow
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C1 and C2 schaeffer are different schaeffer

royal crow
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im actually mad about that lol
but thats unrelated

humble cairn
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oh right

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wait so why does schaeffer slowly lose his mind

royal crow
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im going to be real

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the writers went completely unga unga

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he was already crazy on R7 yes, but on R8 he goes full villian mode for almost no reason

humble cairn
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weird

raw terrace
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henriksson i still found weird yed but